Well, now I'm dumping this Motorola Edge + 2022 as I'm not happy at all with this phone ( though I will miss Dex ) . OnePlus site currently offers it for $799.00. Plus $120.00 if I trade in my LG V60 ( should I?? ) and an additional $30.00 coupon for registering on OnePlus - so total cost is $649.00 plus tax - FOR 16 GB OF RAM AND 512 GB OF STORAGE! How can I pass on it? Gotta get accustomed to Oxygen - is this gonna be a long learning curve Juan?
Yes, most youtubers never even try to learn how the camera works. It either works like iphone (point and shoot with nobrains on) but OP cameras have always been really really good if you have used hours and hours to learn the how it functions the best. That is like basics of photography, you dont buy a expensive camera just to point and shoot...
I've said this in previous videos, but it's like you took a successful wedding photographer who shoots on Canon, and on the day of a wedding, swap their gear for Sony. Tech "reviewers" act like that's a camera problem that it's not "good enough", when really it's a user issue.
That's just how most people want to take pictures. People just let the software do the work. Pixel phones had great pictures even though the first couple of generations had only one camera: the MP wasn't even high on it. It all depends on the user. If buying a Oneplus and configuring the camera setting works for you then you do you. It's all about convenience and that's why either most people just buy a Apple or Samsung phone. LG smartphones had great cameras and settings and were priced lower as well but the general public didn't buy too many LG phones. LG eventually shut down their mobile division and stopped selling smartphones.
That's not what I'm saying. Take five phones out of your pocket and JUST push the shutter, and you get five different images, with different metering and different processing. The user who lives with any ONE of those phones will build an expectation on what that phone does to an image, and they'll start composing for that at an instinct level. It has nothing to do with the weak argument that techies like to throw in, that somehow pros are always "fiddling" with settings. I am specifically talking about the user experience as it relates to auto modes. The user builds an expectation, and when a new phone turns out a result that the user wasn't expecting, they will likely blame the phone. That's incorrect. It's a user familiarity problem.
I ordered one. Been a happy OnePlus customer for nearly a decade. My first gen Nord i got as a company phone is out of support and i really wanted to get back into the flagship game, but not at any cost. The 12 brings back what OnePlus used to be the kings at, competing with phones way higher up the market at way lower prices. I really enjoy OxygenOS even after it's 'ColorOS' updates, and it never grows old having a phone most people don't know about, that is insanely capable.
@@HARDYMANGAT I would choose the OP12, because it's so much more powerful and for the fast charging! The pixel 8 is not bad, but the Tensor G3 is sucks a little bit
I think you give the most fair reviews of OnePlus phones out of anyone out there. And you definitely give the most accurate, detailed camera reviews of OnePlus phones. My personal experience with these phones always match yours each year.
ALWAYS happy to find a few other geeks that like this stuff. I know I'm a crank, but I can't see ANY phone touching this price to performance this year.
I'm with you. I preordered the OnePlus 12 and traded in my 10 Pro. I've owned the 8 Pro, 9 Pro and 10 Pro skipping the 11. My only real disappointment is the IP rating. I feel like the selfie cameras on OnePlus phones used to be a bit of a wart but not now with the 12. I've always been fine with the camera experience otherwise and feel like they have always been underrated. I notice a wider range of opinions from reviewers about their cameras than other brands. But I've always been about the OS speed, the screen, battery and charging speed. They always deliver on that and seem to bring even better performance post launch. One of the first things I do with a new OnePlus is try it out in my car and see if Android Auto has less errors. I noticed a jump in Spotify sound quality and Android Auto usability from using a Samsung Galaxy 10 Plus to going to a OnePlus 8 Pro one year. You always find the best unsung aspects of these phones and highlight them. I intensely look forward to your future coverage of this phone.
Oh nice! The jump from a 10Pro to a 12. You're gonna like that battery life! I wish they kept the 4k/120 mode on the camera, but the rest of the phone should help make up for that 😊
You were the first review I've seen that mentioned a lot of the unique features in OOS for the Oneplus 12. Your tangent about wireless charging was a new take I haven't seen yet either, and I'll have to say I agree.
It's fun to really use each device for what it does well, instead of pretending that "different from uh iPhone" is all you need to say to dismiss something.
I ordered mine, I can't wait. I wanted S24 Ultra but too expensive and has a pen and nice camera that I'll never really use. For $1097 CAD 16gb RAM 512GB with $14 case is a pretty good deal, I hope they keep up the trend with these flagship specs midrange pricing.
You've gained yourself a new subscriber! Great video; clearly and thoughtfully put together whilst making good arguments. I agree, this year the 12 is looking mighty! And in the UK the charging speed is reported to be 0-100% in 23 minutes I believe (higher rated charger) so coupled with the immense battery capability of the device, I can see this being my phone for a good long while.
Sold. 512GB model oreordered and I snagged the wireles charger before they sold out. Sent you a Tweet btw. Oneplus sent me a coupon for the OnePlus Watch 2 after I placed my order for the 12. Looks like it's comfirmed and will be announced at WDC.
Oh dang! They haven't even told us about the watch yet. I just started playing with the earbuds LOL. Sorry I'm not on the Xitter at all anymore. Please hit me up tho. Always down to chat on the other socials.
Its good to see competition between the Chinese phone companies really heating up. The 2024 offerings from companies like Oneplus and Vivo are really good while still undercutting SamApple. Excited to see the premium tier smartphones from Oppo, Honor and Xiaomi along the year.
The 4-tier system that you mentioned is very well laid out. Much more relevant than the traditional 3-tier one. Most of us should be happy in the premium tier. Not sure what kind of justification is needed to be in the ultra. 😅
Honestly, I'm TRYING to get more folks to shop mid-range now. There's VERY LITTLE a $400 phone can't do for folks with daily driver needs. 👍 I shop ultra because I try to replace a laptop and a camera for travel work LOL. I am not "avuraj cunzoomer".
The snapdragon 7+gen 2 has been phenomenal for me. I find that what I need is an adequate amount of RAM so that my phone doesn't start unaliving apps. I also know for a fact that I need a headphone jack.
Best phone so far with that price also. Better than S24 in many ways. 1. Better, bigger battery and charge waaay faster. 2. Better screen due to more BIT colors and smoother scrrolling due to their new tec and much brighter. 3. CPU has been showen better in many benchmark tests here on TH-cam. 4. Face onlock is way faster and does not lack in miss readinga.... Basically This phone is better in all the areas that really matters.... Samsung still have a better camera tho if you are into that sort of things and some gimmic things that really doesn't matter..... It's pure crap by Samsung to have a phone like that with that price when you can get this.
Great and honest review as usual Juan. What your getting for that price point, i don't think there is anything else on the market that comes even close.
Hey Juan, since you are one of the only techtuber that actually care about desktop mode on Android, how does this fair? I want to upgrade from my Note 20 but the lack of DeX-like on phones is kinda a deal breaker for me. So far, I only know that Samsung, Honor and Motorola bother to put a proper desktop mode in their flagship phones. Hope you would also review the Honor Magic6 Pro sometime next month when they launch internationally
Out of the box, Android 14 desktop mode is even more broken than 13. You can lean on apps like second screen and task bar to help, but Google is keeping us down.
Amazing review, so different from the traditional tech copy+paste reviews, I'm OnePlus fan, switched from 8t to pixel 7 and regret since week 2, I'm coming back to OnePlus for the 12R, hope to see your thoughts about that model.... Regards, and you've got a new subscriber 👍🏾
I knew once this phone came out, i'll go straight to your review first lol. Oneplus is no longer my daily phone (sadly because my OP9 fell victim to the green lines) and this year should have been my upgrade. Happy to see that Oneplus can still be my future choice once my run with this Pixel runs it's course. I think Oneplus actually learned its lessons after the 11. Going back to having one main model for the year is the right choice instead of having a pro. I genuinely miss the great speakers all my previous Onplus's spoiled me with. Oxygen OS also polished itself years on after the release of Material You. Damn. I really want to get back soon... PS. Mrwhosetheboss sucks, and is a content shill. Zero regret unsubscribing. I wish i could subscribe to you more than once.
Wireless charging is so convenient *if your car has a wireless charger and you can simply place it there when you get into the car*. I have a wireless charging stand (for my Oneplus 8 Pro) at my desk but usually just plug it into a fast charger there anyway. So I agree with you there, but there are some killer use cases for wireless charging. Ordered the Oneplus 12 this morning.
Can't in my car, and I wouldn't use it over the summer. It's more convenient to have an ac mount , and only.plug in for five minutes as I need to. I don't want the phone charging all the time. I only need five minutes hooked up after a long drive.
Hey Juan! I'm from India and really loved your video! Can you please make a complete tutorial on how to use the OnePlus 12 camera in detail and the "Fun AI Tricks" of OnePlus 12!
May last OnePlus phone was the OnePlus 7 pro. I miss that popup camera. Been drinking the Pixel coolaid for some time now, and I'm ready to try OnePlus again. My new order should be delivered tomorrow.
Great take. So much to thank you for. Was brought here from another poster on the reason Marques will not be reviewing the OP 12. Was honestly waiting for his take before I committed. Not going to say its the only reason (your reasoning is found later in your video) but all roads lead to that reasoning. Subscribed.
Thanks Juan! I've only had one, OnePlus phone in the past (the OnePlus 7 Pro). Loved it! Like a lot people, I didn't like the directly OnePlus started going in (tech-wise, price wise) so I went back to Samsung. I have a Samsung S22 Plus and and a Pixel 8. What I'm most excited about is the Bluetooth codecs One Plus supports that the others don't. Apt-X Adaptive, Aptx-HD, LDAC, LHDC in particular which Apple, Samsung, nor the Goggle Pixel offer collectively. Never mind Bluetooth LE audio.
if only they provided more years of software support, addressed the green line issue a lot of people are bringing up, and enabled more customization in the software like oneui, this would be buy-on-sight purchase.
I currently have a S23 ultra, which I've loved. but I'm seriously considering switching to a OnePlus next year. they just seem like the best USA Android choice for me. solid review as always, Juan
The S23U is a MONSTER productivity phone. That should last you a WHILE, but some of the fun stuff is REALLY fun on other devices if you get that itch to switch.
@@SomeGadgetGuyI made the switch just last night from S23 Ultra I really do not like the force stops after last update to Android 14 I really don't understand why Samsung can't get it right after a recent update but so be it. I'm back to one plus. Sending back the S23 Ultra to Amazon by Feb 1st so will have to use my pixel 7 Pro for the time being til my One Plus 12 arrives and yes I got the upgraded model for $799 512GB and 16GB RAM insane it's a deal I just couldn't pass up lol
Since i got my first smartphone in 2008 I was used to charge my phone overnight via cable or wireless... Since i got my 12 (First 1+ Device ever) i just plug the cable in the morning in while Im getting ready for work and thats it. The one small thing I hate about the software is the anoying red 1 everywere
Thank you! There's only a handful of reviewers out there that appreciate what one plus has accomplished with this phone. And yours is definitely one of the best. I love your point on battery ptsd.
I'm sorry, but I've never appreciated the "if you don't agree with me, you're an-insert derogatory label here" argument, regardless of the subject. There are legitimate reasons to stick with a brand. There are other considerations over price. Ecosystem immediately comes to mind. There are brand exclusive features that can be important to consumers.
Although the price in Europe isn't as competitive as in the US, I'm again sticking with One Plus. They at least deserve the chance to dissapoint me, which they haven't been able to do with my One, 5T and 7 pro. Did check out the other brands extensively before I made my decision but there wasn't anything compelling me to change brands. Looking forward to 6/02!
I'll want to wait for the Moto Edge Plus 2024/Edge 50 Pro to see what's coming for productivity. This one makes things more difficult for me 😅 Although desktop mode... Man, what a missed opportunity (the ton of cool things you could do with the open for productivity, some are in the 12... But what if you can also have it on a dock for a desktop experience?). But overall, just wow! Also, not a single mention of AI, even though it's there.
as a lifetime samsung galaxy owner (i have the s22 ultra & note 10+), this google phone has caught my attention and is telling me to change. will it be worth a change?
Thanks Juan, another great review. just ordered the OnePlus 12. Bought my OP9 based on your review back in 2021. And glad I did then because of your advise about the pending chip shortage. Your the best.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Over here the S24+ is €130 cheaper and has more storage (512 vs 256 GB for the base OP model). Would you reckon the OP is still the better pick here?
I have the 10T and I skipped the 11, was tempted by the Open, but I think this is the One(Plus) that I finally upgrade to. I almost got the S24 Ultra but you are absolutely correct about comparing them in their respective price range. Glad I saw this even though I was pretty set on getting this (the OnePlus 12 [PRO?] finally)
Another great discussion, Juan. For me, it's nice to have the option of wireless charging. Even if you may not need to do it. I'm all for all of the options we can get. Like with headphone jacks. I like the option of plugging in headphones.
I bought the Oppo Find X2 Pro in September 2020 and found their Android customisation to be really good(seeing as Color OS and Oxygen OS are very similar now); the only letdown was the battery life, but being able to fully charge in around 40 minutes from 0 eased the pain a lot. My iPhone friends and my partner were shocked at the charging speed when I told them. Blooming western tech reviewers banging on about wireless charging and its snail pace charging; yet willing to accept that companies can get away with selling phones without a charger, nothing but corporate greed. I hope this handset does well.
I think you have a strong point here. I mean, there are countless reviews nitpicking features here and there while praising the 2 big companies, ignoring the elephant in the room. I'll never get why iphone is forced to everyone as the device everyone should be measured against, while it maintains an archaic operating system that is missing basic features.
The OnePlus 12 looks like a winner, with a price tag of around $800 (converted from the indian pricing) do you think it will reclaim some market share in the US?
I hope so, but I doubt it'll be a heavy hitter again without more marketing. I can see a future where OP stays out of carrier stores, but not without ads telling consumers they exist.
Hey Juan I really like the insights and perspective you bring to smartphone tech youtube or whatever you call it. Reviewers are too obssessed with presentation today and the average consumer denominator which kind of brought about or atleast exarcebate techie syndrome which i like to call it. And don't get me started on the wireless charging obsession because it is wasteful and ineffective but ironically is somewhat concerned for the environment too.
Subscribed for the honest take on OP vs SamApple, the upcoming additional infos and MKBHD not reviewing the OP 12 *at all*. Btw, while GSM Arena is a household name for review stats, their OP12 "full review" video on YT is a joke.
I just ordered mine but I've been using Motorola Edge Plus 2022 and then the 2023 and I'm waiting to see if I'll be switching to the Moto Edge Plus 2024 when it drops
I think the 24+ and OP12 are a lot closer than you are playing it off to be. OP12 has better camera, but the screen and processor are a wash. OP12 has a better battery but the battery in the 24+ is not anywhere near bad. It costs a little more but you do get Dex and the Samsung Eco system that can be important to some people. If you already have the galaxy watch, buds and maybe even a tablet, all those things work better with Samsung. Honestly, if it wasn't for the curved screen I would have got the OP12 but I really hate curved screens.
The honesty is a breath of fresh air, with everyone STILL bashing the OnePlus cameras and finding reasons to disqualify it as an option in the samapple world.
@@nieznanygoscxd8587 I feel like it's better than ip65, but they just went for a basic rating. Just like the 7t pro was waterproof but they never paid for the rating. Someone tested it 30 mins submerged and it survived.
The battery issue you bring up is spot on. It's another reason why my family of iphone users complain a lot about this and I kindly remind them that iPhones suck at this. And it gets worse over time.
It's rough right? It's a sunk cost fallacy. "My phone charges slow, so I should buy more chargers, and I should charge every time I set it down, and now my battery health is lower..."
Dude please review Nubia z60 ultra. Real FLAGSHIP killer of the year. $650. Ip8 water, 12gb 256gb, 6000mah battery, 6.8 uninterrupted display, snapdragon gen 3, IR blaster and amazing cameras. Can't beat it
I'm undecided between One Plus 12 and S24 Ultra, same price on offer in my country. What do you recommend? I already have an S9 tablet and a Galaxy Watch 5 (given as a gift)
It depends on what you like and what you use. I generally prefer mixing things up and not being in one ecosystem, but that said, if you think you'll use the S-Pen or Dex, the Note 24 would be a SOLID buy at the same price as an OP.
OnePlus really nailed styling these last couple of years. And they've come a long way with there cameras. And I love the cameras on my OnePlus Open. Not a huge fan of the software though. Definitely prefer OneUI.
I am so jealous!!!! I am looking, but my provider doesn't have the green one yet... sooooo I am waiting to see if they will get that or not, because the green is a must for me haha. and soooo true! Comparing best from a brand to a brand often makes no sense unless they are indeed in that same catogory!
The charging just insane! I just got mine but saw they are now throwing a free pair of 100+ wireless earbuds to sweeten the deal. No reason not to buy. I've never used a phone this powerful and user friendly.
It looks beautiful in the greenery where you live Juan. Thanks for your amazing video & in depth content. Big love to you & the family, kindest regards, Richard U.K
Your V60 is a gem. I miss LG, phones that came with quadDAC's and all sorts of goodies. It's just unfortunate that it's so well outdated. I am getting my OP12 tomorrow but I'd almost bet your V60 would be better
Not quite time for me to upgrade my Samapple 22 but you make me really wish it was. I’m getting really tired of Samsung’s games, like they won’t support the newer APTX codecs or snapdragon sound so I’m stuck with AAC on almost every bluetooth audio thing.
I think I'll pick up one of these in black. EDIT: I did pick one up. $900 with the extended warranty and charger. Juan, does this come with a pre-installed screen protector?
4:44 wireless charging isn't so much the speed for me but lifestyle convenience. I usually charge overnight. And I hate cords so drop & charge is more of a convenience element 😅. The Palm Pre made wireless charging a standard need for me😂. Even if the speed is "inferior" . Idc ...I sleep for 9 hours, my outlet turns off automatically, I wake up with a charged phone. I hardly use my USB port on mt device 😂
When you use fast charging, you only plug in when you want/need to. Think about how you routine might be disrupted, that you don't HAVE to "put your phone to bed" and let it charge to completion every night. Instead make it a routine to plug in when you take a shower, or drink a cuppa. Then instead of wanting to see 100% charge, you keep your.phone floating in the 20-80% range, and your battery health lasts longer. It's a nice change over wireless.
thanks for the breath of fresh air...because I can't stand other youtubers hyping up garbage companies (🍎) (S) when there are other companies literary doing better, value for money...
In my experience it's not always about performance or cameras but sometimes it's just the software. I have a OnePlus Open and I've had other OnePlus devices. They are brilliant and I would never take try to deny that. But at the end of the day I'm willing to pay more for a Samsung because I prefer OneUI. For me modes and routines are a major plus
That's what I said in the video. A PERSONAL BIAS for software or a specific feature is fine to admit. Overall, if someone isn't using a feature like Dex tho, I can't say an S24+ is worth $200-$300 more than an OP12.
My favorite is when my AirPods are dead, and my iPhone doesn't support reverse wireless charging, but wait! My AirPods have a lighting port and my iPhone has a USB C. Bruh. No one is carrying a usb c to lightning. The problem is that I'm too far gone with apple, though it's still nice to see all the innovations that other companies are putting out. Thanks for the video!
It's crazy to me. WHEN Apple gets new features, people FREAK out, but the tech "press" never highlights good features when they FIRST arrive on other devices. If stuff like fast charging and reverse charging are valuable, they're valuable RIGHT NOW LOL.
I was HARDCORE on Qi charging back in the Lumia days, I really thought it would evolve into something cool. It's crazy to me how little we've seen it improve.
LOL so right, I have had OP.3,5,7and 9. still using 9. still has all of the performance you will need. Looking at 12 as 9 is getting old. always been under rated brand. great software. I have Samsung work phone.. so slow by comparison. use OP9 camera when I need a good detailed image. To say the cameras are not good.. I dont think so!
This guy just just killed every tech TH-camr out there. I just subscribed for the hat and not the review. Kidding lol!!! Love the hat though, have similar myself. Keep up the good work my friend!!! Buying the oneplus 12. Currently I have the iPhone 15 pro max.
I'm fighting the urge to pre-order pretty hard right now. I don't need one. My Pixel 7 Pro is still perfectly fine for my daily needs. I'm sure I'd also miss Google's call screening feature. I don't think OnePlus has anything comparable. I do miss the alert slider from the OnePlus 3 (that my kid is STILL using, original everything - including battery!) and OxygenOS was always a pretty solid skin. Thinking of digging out my original Motorola Milestone (Droid in the US) with ... Android 2.1(???) on it ... for a $150 trade. LOL I guess there's always the 15 day return window if I decide to stay Team Pixel. I've rooted for OnePlus most of their existence ... except for the years they faltered pretty hard with mediocre releases and bad software support. (7/8/9 era) Speaking of, I can't find anything in the announcement or on their website about a software update promise. With Samsung making big deals about it the last few years, Google moving to the 7 year promise, and Apple ALWAYS being very good about OS updates for years ... I was a bit sad to not see much mention of it, let alone no mention of it. Or did I miss it?
I want this phone so bad but it seems all the major brands Otterbox or tech21 all don’t carry accessories. I want to get the phone but if I can’t find decent trustworthy protection is it sturdy to survive???
I really like OP phones, but if it's the same price as a Samsung ultra, and you can't beat the price with a sale or trade in, the galaxy is probably a better deal at that price.
This looks great, but I'm stuck between this and Vivo x100 pro( waiting to see if it gets released in the UK atm) because the Vivo is really catching my eye... But £899 for the OnePlus 12 is not bad.... Gutted about the IP68 rating though. I currently have the oppo find X5 pro so it'll be seamless going to the OP as I did have the OP7P back in the day before upgrading to X5 pro.... But I do like taking photos so I'm wondering how it would stack up. I think it'll be a big upgrade from my X5 pro but I'm tempted the Vivo looks really good🤣 but just availability here in the UK:(
Here is my biggest problem with OP12. It competes with phones like 24+, s24 ultra, iphone 15 pro max, google pixel 8 pro. However if from gsmarena you look at the dimensions, you will find that this phone is longer than all of its competitors while at the same time being narrower. You can't have it both ways. Can't be the longest and narrowest, it makes the phone very unpleasant to use especially if you come from using those competitor products, you will right away notice the difference. Make the phone a little shorter or increase the width. Question to Juan. After using those competitor products, did the length or narrowness of the OP 12 bother you or was it unnoticeable?
The kind of "hand feel" you're describing is nearly imperceptible across all the phones you mention, arriving at similar aspect ratio screens. That and I really like the Xperia which is taller than all of them.
Getting mine tomorrow. I was with Oneplus for the 6T, 7 Pro and the 8 Pro. Then the 9/10/11 lost me. I went back to Samsung. Yes. Shame on me. Currently making this comment on a Fold 5. I would love to afford the Oneplus Open but.. Kids... I also really wanted the 1TB model but the wait times are insane in NZ. so the 512 model awaits me tomorrow morning.
Sadly no. Video out is handy, and you can add other apps like second screen and taskbar, but the Android 14 desktop mode is even more broken than it was on A13.
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bro the oneplus 12 or pixel 8 . i hv pixel 8 and oneplus 12 gives 660bucks for pixel 8 trade in what to do any suggestions ???
Well, now I'm dumping this Motorola Edge + 2022 as I'm not happy at all with this phone ( though I will miss Dex ) .
OnePlus site currently offers it for $799.00. Plus $120.00 if I trade in my LG V60 ( should I?? ) and an additional $30.00 coupon for registering on OnePlus - so total cost is $649.00 plus tax - FOR 16 GB OF RAM AND 512 GB OF STORAGE!
How can I pass on it? Gotta get accustomed to Oxygen - is this gonna be a long learning curve Juan?
Yes, most youtubers never even try to learn how the camera works. It either works like iphone (point and shoot with nobrains on) but OP cameras have always been really really good if you have used hours and hours to learn the how it functions the best. That is like basics of photography, you dont buy a expensive camera just to point and shoot...
I've said this in previous videos, but it's like you took a successful wedding photographer who shoots on Canon, and on the day of a wedding, swap their gear for Sony. Tech "reviewers" act like that's a camera problem that it's not "good enough", when really it's a user issue.
We’ve heard this before.
That's just how most people want to take pictures. People just let the software do the work. Pixel phones had great pictures even though the first couple of generations had only one camera: the MP wasn't even high on it. It all depends on the user. If buying a Oneplus and configuring the camera setting works for you then you do you. It's all about convenience and that's why either most people just buy a Apple or Samsung phone. LG smartphones had great cameras and settings and were priced lower as well but the general public didn't buy too many LG phones. LG eventually shut down their mobile division and stopped selling smartphones.
That's not what I'm saying. Take five phones out of your pocket and JUST push the shutter, and you get five different images, with different metering and different processing. The user who lives with any ONE of those phones will build an expectation on what that phone does to an image, and they'll start composing for that at an instinct level.
It has nothing to do with the weak argument that techies like to throw in, that somehow pros are always "fiddling" with settings.
I am specifically talking about the user experience as it relates to auto modes. The user builds an expectation, and when a new phone turns out a result that the user wasn't expecting, they will likely blame the phone. That's incorrect. It's a user familiarity problem.
I think these cameras have the most character of any other phone camera I've ever used. A unique and very nice look.
I ordered one.
Been a happy OnePlus customer for nearly a decade. My first gen Nord i got as a company phone is out of support and i really wanted to get back into the flagship game, but not at any cost.
The 12 brings back what OnePlus used to be the kings at, competing with phones way higher up the market at way lower prices.
I really enjoy OxygenOS even after it's 'ColorOS' updates, and it never grows old having a phone most people don't know about, that is insanely capable.
Alert slider opens up "find in page" in Google Chrome ..in new oneplus 12
I ordered mine today and I couldn't be more happy 😄😄😄
bro the oneplus 12 or pixel 8 . i hv pixel 8 and oneplus 12 gives 660bucks for pixel 8 trade in what to do any suggestions ???
@@HARDYMANGAT I would choose the OP12, because it's so much more powerful and for the fast charging! The pixel 8 is not bad, but the Tensor G3 is sucks a little bit
I think you give the most fair reviews of OnePlus phones out of anyone out there. And you definitely give the most accurate, detailed camera reviews of OnePlus phones. My personal experience with these phones always match yours each year.
ALWAYS happy to find a few other geeks that like this stuff. I know I'm a crank, but I can't see ANY phone touching this price to performance this year.
I'm with you. I preordered the OnePlus 12 and traded in my 10 Pro. I've owned the 8 Pro, 9 Pro and 10 Pro skipping the 11. My only real disappointment is the IP rating. I feel like the selfie cameras on OnePlus phones used to be a bit of a wart but not now with the 12. I've always been fine with the camera experience otherwise and feel like they have always been underrated. I notice a wider range of opinions from reviewers about their cameras than other brands. But I've always been about the OS speed, the screen, battery and charging speed. They always deliver on that and seem to bring even better performance post launch. One of the first things I do with a new OnePlus is try it out in my car and see if Android Auto has less errors. I noticed a jump in Spotify sound quality and Android Auto usability from using a Samsung Galaxy 10 Plus to going to a OnePlus 8 Pro one year. You always find the best unsung aspects of these phones and highlight them. I intensely look forward to your future coverage of this phone.
Oh nice! The jump from a 10Pro to a 12. You're gonna like that battery life! I wish they kept the 4k/120 mode on the camera, but the rest of the phone should help make up for that 😊
@@SomeGadgetGuyyeah. I miss the 4k 120fps video mode too. It was soo good
I REALLY hope more companies bring it back, even if it's buried in a slow mo mode.
You were the first review I've seen that mentioned a lot of the unique features in OOS for the Oneplus 12. Your tangent about wireless charging was a new take I haven't seen yet either, and I'll have to say I agree.
It's fun to really use each device for what it does well, instead of pretending that "different from uh iPhone" is all you need to say to dismiss something.
I ordered mine, I can't wait. I wanted S24 Ultra but too expensive and has a pen and nice camera that I'll never really use. For $1097 CAD 16gb RAM 512GB with $14 case is a pretty good deal, I hope they keep up the trend with these flagship specs midrange pricing.
You've gained yourself a new subscriber! Great video; clearly and thoughtfully put together whilst making good arguments. I agree, this year the 12 is looking mighty! And in the UK the charging speed is reported to be 0-100% in 23 minutes I believe (higher rated charger) so coupled with the immense battery capability of the device, I can see this being my phone for a good long while.
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10/10 Message & execution
10/10 Video
10/10 sarcasm.
Sold. 512GB model oreordered and I snagged the wireles charger before they sold out. Sent you a Tweet btw. Oneplus sent me a coupon for the OnePlus Watch 2 after I placed my order for the 12. Looks like it's comfirmed and will be announced at WDC.
Oh dang! They haven't even told us about the watch yet. I just started playing with the earbuds LOL.
Sorry I'm not on the Xitter at all anymore. Please hit me up tho. Always down to chat on the other socials.
@@SomeGadgetGuyI forgot man. My apologies. Sent it to you on Mastodon but my post has since disappeared off your page. Not sure what happened.
I still see it.
Its good to see competition between the Chinese phone companies really heating up. The 2024 offerings from companies like Oneplus and Vivo are really good while still undercutting SamApple. Excited to see the premium tier smartphones from Oppo, Honor and Xiaomi along the year.
It's crazy. Makes me so sad how little of that we get here in the USA. What I wouldn't give for a North American release of the Vivo...
Excited to see the content the OnePlus Close leads to. Hell I'm excited for the content that I create with it.
Congrats on the new phone! OnePlus Closed is a CHAMP!
OnePlus Closed is catching on 😂
The 4-tier system that you mentioned is very well laid out. Much more relevant than the traditional 3-tier one. Most of us should be happy in the premium tier. Not sure what kind of justification is needed to be in the ultra. 😅
Honestly, I'm TRYING to get more folks to shop mid-range now. There's VERY LITTLE a $400 phone can't do for folks with daily driver needs. 👍
I shop ultra because I try to replace a laptop and a camera for travel work LOL. I am not "avuraj cunzoomer".
Agreed. Like a pixel 7A can do almost everything a ultra or Max phone can do
The snapdragon 7+gen 2 has been phenomenal for me. I find that what I need is an adequate amount of RAM so that my phone doesn't start unaliving apps. I also know for a fact that I need a headphone jack.
Best phone so far with that price also. Better than S24 in many ways. 1. Better, bigger battery and charge waaay faster. 2. Better screen due to more BIT colors and smoother scrrolling due to their new tec and much brighter. 3. CPU has been showen better in many benchmark tests here on TH-cam. 4. Face onlock is way faster and does not lack in miss readinga.... Basically This phone is better in all the areas that really matters.... Samsung still have a better camera tho if you are into that sort of things and some gimmic things that really doesn't matter..... It's pure crap by Samsung to have a phone like that with that price when you can get this.
Great and honest review as usual Juan. What your getting for that price point, i don't think there is anything else on the market that comes even close.
I return my s24 ultra and saved 600 dollars 😂😂
DANG! You could buy a whole nuther phone...
Hey Juan, since you are one of the only techtuber that actually care about desktop mode on Android, how does this fair? I want to upgrade from my Note 20 but the lack of DeX-like on phones is kinda a deal breaker for me. So far, I only know that Samsung, Honor and Motorola bother to put a proper desktop mode in their flagship phones. Hope you would also review the Honor Magic6 Pro sometime next month when they launch internationally
Out of the box, Android 14 desktop mode is even more broken than 13. You can lean on apps like second screen and task bar to help, but Google is keeping us down.
Amazing review, so different from the traditional tech copy+paste reviews, I'm OnePlus fan, switched from 8t to pixel 7 and regret since week 2, I'm coming back to OnePlus for the 12R, hope to see your thoughts about that model.... Regards, and you've got a new subscriber 👍🏾
I knew once this phone came out, i'll go straight to your review first lol.
Oneplus is no longer my daily phone (sadly because my OP9 fell victim to the green lines) and this year should have been my upgrade. Happy to see that Oneplus can still be my future choice once my run with this Pixel runs it's course.
I think Oneplus actually learned its lessons after the 11. Going back to having one main model for the year is the right choice instead of having a pro.
I genuinely miss the great speakers all my previous Onplus's spoiled me with. Oxygen OS also polished itself years on after the release of Material You.
Damn. I really want to get back soon...
PS. Mrwhosetheboss sucks, and is a content shill. Zero regret unsubscribing.
I wish i could subscribe to you more than once.
Wireless charging is so convenient *if your car has a wireless charger and you can simply place it there when you get into the car*. I have a wireless charging stand (for my Oneplus 8 Pro) at my desk but usually just plug it into a fast charger there anyway. So I agree with you there, but there are some killer use cases for wireless charging. Ordered the Oneplus 12 this morning.
Can't in my car, and I wouldn't use it over the summer. It's more convenient to have an ac mount , and only.plug in for five minutes as I need to.
I don't want the phone charging all the time. I only need five minutes hooked up after a long drive.
Hey Juan! I'm from India and really loved your video! Can you please make a complete tutorial on how to use the OnePlus 12 camera in detail and the "Fun AI Tricks" of OnePlus 12!
Thanks for your insight on this beautiful device brother!!!💪🏽🤳🏽 Love your videos man!!
Does this phone support the 5g bands for US carriers.
Yes it does
May last OnePlus phone was the OnePlus 7 pro. I miss that popup camera.
Been drinking the Pixel coolaid for some time now, and I'm ready to try OnePlus again.
My new order should be delivered tomorrow.
I love the Pixel. It's still nice to shake it up from time to time.
That's some tech review of phone. Great work
Great take. So much to thank you for. Was brought here from another poster on the reason Marques will not be reviewing the OP 12. Was honestly waiting for his take before I committed. Not going to say its the only reason (your reasoning is found later in your video) but all roads lead to that reasoning. Subscribed.
No phone can compete.
Thanks Juan! I've only had one, OnePlus phone in the past (the OnePlus 7 Pro). Loved it! Like a lot people, I didn't like the directly OnePlus started going in (tech-wise, price wise) so I went back to Samsung. I have a Samsung S22 Plus and and a Pixel 8. What I'm most excited about is the Bluetooth codecs One Plus supports that the others don't. Apt-X Adaptive, Aptx-HD, LDAC, LHDC in particular which Apple, Samsung, nor the Goggle Pixel offer collectively. Never mind Bluetooth LE audio.
if only they provided more years of software support, addressed the green line issue a lot of people are bringing up, and enabled more customization in the software like oneui, this would be buy-on-sight purchase.
I currently have a S23 ultra, which I've loved. but I'm seriously considering switching to a OnePlus next year. they just seem like the best USA Android choice for me. solid review as always, Juan
The S23U is a MONSTER productivity phone. That should last you a WHILE, but some of the fun stuff is REALLY fun on other devices if you get that itch to switch.
@@SomeGadgetGuy please suggest which one is good to go op12 vs s23u , Cam is priority to me
@@SomeGadgetGuyI made the switch just last night from S23 Ultra I really do not like the force stops after last update to Android 14 I really don't understand why Samsung can't get it right after a recent update but so be it. I'm back to one plus. Sending back the S23 Ultra to Amazon by Feb 1st so will have to use my pixel 7 Pro for the time being til my One Plus 12 arrives and yes I got the upgraded model for $799 512GB and 16GB RAM insane it's a deal I just couldn't pass up lol
Since i got my first smartphone in 2008 I was used to charge my phone overnight via cable or wireless... Since i got my 12 (First 1+ Device ever) i just plug the cable in the morning in while Im getting ready for work and thats it. The one small thing I hate about the software is the anoying red 1 everywere
Thank you! There's only a handful of reviewers out there that appreciate what one plus has accomplished with this phone. And yours is definitely one of the best. I love your point on battery ptsd.
I'm sorry, but I've never appreciated the "if you don't agree with me, you're an-insert derogatory label here" argument, regardless of the subject. There are legitimate reasons to stick with a brand. There are other considerations over price. Ecosystem immediately comes to mind. There are brand exclusive features that can be important to consumers.
I was waiting ror this review, Juan. Thanks! The OP12 seems neat 😁
I'm enjoying it 😊
Although the price in Europe isn't as competitive as in the US, I'm again sticking with One Plus. They at least deserve the chance to dissapoint me, which they haven't been able to do with my One, 5T and 7 pro. Did check out the other brands extensively before I made my decision but there wasn't anything compelling me to change brands.
Looking forward to 6/02!
I just bought it today..
Thanks man for the review
I'll want to wait for the Moto Edge Plus 2024/Edge 50 Pro to see what's coming for productivity.
This one makes things more difficult for me 😅 Although desktop mode... Man, what a missed opportunity (the ton of cool things you could do with the open for productivity, some are in the 12... But what if you can also have it on a dock for a desktop experience?). But overall, just wow!
Also, not a single mention of AI, even though it's there.
You mean, how I showed the AI subject detect? That AI?
as a lifetime samsung galaxy owner (i have the s22 ultra & note 10+), this google phone has caught my attention and is telling me to change. will it be worth a change?
Thanks Juan, another great review. just ordered the OnePlus 12. Bought my OP9 based on your review back in 2021. And glad I did then because of your advise about the pending chip shortage. Your the best.
Glad you included "in the USA" in the title, in Europe this will be at least as expensive as the S24+
Even at the same price it's a tough fight for Samsung, but here, it's NOT close.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Over here the S24+ is €130 cheaper and has more storage (512 vs 256 GB for the base OP model). Would you reckon the OP is still the better pick here?
Yes. Snapdragon, top screen, charging, battery and you will love oxygen os
In India, highest version of OP12 costs exactly half of the highest version of S24U.
I have the 10T and I skipped the 11, was tempted by the Open, but I think this is the One(Plus) that I finally upgrade to. I almost got the S24 Ultra but you are absolutely correct about comparing them in their respective price range. Glad I saw this even though I was pretty set on getting this (the OnePlus 12 [PRO?] finally)
Another great discussion, Juan.
For me, it's nice to have the option of wireless charging. Even if you may not need to do it. I'm all for all of the options we can get. Like with headphone jacks. I like the option of plugging in headphones.
I bought the Oppo Find X2 Pro in September 2020 and found their Android customisation to be really good(seeing as Color OS and Oxygen OS are very similar now); the only letdown was the battery life, but being able to fully charge in around 40 minutes from 0 eased the pain a lot. My iPhone friends and my partner were shocked at the charging speed when I told them.
Blooming western tech reviewers banging on about wireless charging and its snail pace charging; yet willing to accept that companies can get away with selling phones without a charger, nothing but corporate greed.
I hope this handset does well.
I think you have a strong point here. I mean, there are countless reviews nitpicking features here and there while praising the 2 big companies, ignoring the elephant in the room. I'll never get why iphone is forced to everyone as the device everyone should be measured against, while it maintains an archaic operating system that is missing basic features.
The OnePlus 12 looks like a winner, with a price tag of around $800 (converted from the indian pricing) do you think it will reclaim some market share in the US?
I hope so, but I doubt it'll be a heavy hitter again without more marketing. I can see a future where OP stays out of carrier stores, but not without ads telling consumers they exist.
Please do a comparison of this phone vs. Xperia 1 VI, if you are able to get one :)
Hey Juan I really like the insights and perspective you bring to smartphone tech youtube or whatever you call it. Reviewers are too obssessed with presentation today and the average consumer denominator which kind of brought about or atleast exarcebate techie syndrome which i like to call it. And don't get me started on the wireless charging obsession because it is wasteful and ineffective but ironically is somewhat concerned for the environment too.
"Samapple"
Excellent show.
Upgrading from oneplus 6t. That one lasted me 5+ years and still runs fine. Time for oneplus 12.
Subscribed for the honest take on OP vs SamApple, the upcoming additional infos and MKBHD not reviewing the OP 12 *at all*. Btw, while GSM Arena is a household name for review stats, their OP12 "full review" video on YT is a joke.
I just ordered mine but I've been using Motorola Edge Plus 2022 and then the 2023 and I'm waiting to see if I'll be switching to the Moto Edge Plus 2024 when it drops
I think the 24+ and OP12 are a lot closer than you are playing it off to be. OP12 has better camera, but the screen and processor are a wash. OP12 has a better battery but the battery in the 24+ is not anywhere near bad. It costs a little more but you do get Dex and the Samsung Eco system that can be important to some people. If you already have the galaxy watch, buds and maybe even a tablet, all those things work better with Samsung. Honestly, if it wasn't for the curved screen I would have got the OP12 but I really hate curved screens.
The honesty is a breath of fresh air, with everyone STILL bashing the OnePlus cameras and finding reasons to disqualify it as an option in the samapple world.
Yeah the obly thing that could be better is ip 65 rating but you get a charger instead. That's better deal
@@nieznanygoscxd8587 I feel like it's better than ip65, but they just went for a basic rating. Just like the 7t pro was waterproof but they never paid for the rating. Someone tested it 30 mins submerged and it survived.
The battery issue you bring up is spot on. It's another reason why my family of iphone users complain a lot about this and I kindly remind them that iPhones suck at this. And it gets worse over time.
It's rough right? It's a sunk cost fallacy.
"My phone charges slow, so I should buy more chargers, and I should charge every time I set it down, and now my battery health is lower..."
Awesome review. Battery, screen, curved design, and speed sold me
Dude please review Nubia z60 ultra. Real FLAGSHIP killer of the year. $650. Ip8 water, 12gb 256gb, 6000mah battery, 6.8 uninterrupted display, snapdragon gen 3, IR blaster and amazing cameras. Can't beat it
I'm undecided between One Plus 12 and S24 Ultra, same price on offer in my country. What do you recommend? I already have an S9 tablet and a Galaxy Watch 5 (given as a gift)
It depends on what you like and what you use. I generally prefer mixing things up and not being in one ecosystem, but that said, if you think you'll use the S-Pen or Dex, the Note 24 would be a SOLID buy at the same price as an OP.
OnePlus really nailed styling these last couple of years. And they've come a long way with there cameras. And I love the cameras on my OnePlus Open. Not a huge fan of the software though. Definitely prefer OneUI.
I am so jealous!!!! I am looking, but my provider doesn't have the green one yet... sooooo I am waiting to see if they will get that or not, because the green is a must for me haha.
and soooo true! Comparing best from a brand to a brand often makes no sense unless they are indeed in that same catogory!
NOOO!!! You really wanted that green!
@@SomeGadgetGuy yes! I really do! 😂
The charging just insane! I just got mine but saw they are now throwing a free pair of 100+ wireless earbuds to sweeten the deal. No reason not to buy. I've never used a phone this powerful and user friendly.
Hi Juan. Does the phone support video out over USB C?
Wondering the same thing thing please let us know
This is easily the BEST OnePlus 12 review, ever. Thank you for this video, I do agree it is the best phone on the planet.
It looks beautiful in the greenery where you live Juan. Thanks for your amazing video & in depth content. Big love to you & the family, kindest regards, Richard U.K
Hey Richard! Hope you and the fam are well!
@@SomeGadgetGuy We are all the better for seeing this latest upload from you. Your perspective is always so refreshing end entertaining. Take care.
Does it have a desktop mode like the Samsung DEX?
If it did, he would have mentioned it. Don't you think?
Camera comparison with iqoo 12 please
I have an LG V60
Is this 1+ significantly better with the camera? How do the speakers compare to the LG V60?
Your V60 is a gem. I miss LG, phones that came with quadDAC's and all sorts of goodies. It's just unfortunate that it's so well outdated.
I am getting my OP12 tomorrow but I'd almost bet your V60 would be better
I love your review of this phone ❤🎉 cheers mate
Not quite time for me to upgrade my Samapple 22 but you make me really wish it was. I’m getting really tired of Samsung’s games, like they won’t support the newer APTX codecs or snapdragon sound so I’m stuck with AAC on almost every bluetooth audio thing.
I think I'll pick up one of these in black.
EDIT: I did pick one up. $900 with the extended warranty and charger. Juan, does this come with a pre-installed screen protector?
Alert slider opens up "find in page" in Google Chrome ..in new oneplus 12
When you're using an external display, can you change the aspect ratio of whatever is on the 2nd screen like LG could?
With another app like second screen.
4:44 wireless charging isn't so much the speed for me but lifestyle convenience. I usually charge overnight. And I hate cords so drop & charge is more of a convenience element 😅. The Palm Pre made wireless charging a standard need for me😂. Even if the speed is "inferior" . Idc ...I sleep for 9 hours, my outlet turns off automatically, I wake up with a charged phone. I hardly use my USB port on mt device 😂
When you use fast charging, you only plug in when you want/need to. Think about how you routine might be disrupted, that you don't HAVE to "put your phone to bed" and let it charge to completion every night.
Instead make it a routine to plug in when you take a shower, or drink a cuppa.
Then instead of wanting to see 100% charge, you keep your.phone floating in the 20-80% range, and your battery health lasts longer.
It's a nice change over wireless.
I miss the OP7 Pro pop-up selfie cam.
It was cute. Considering how much better the rest of the tech got, I was ok losing that as a novelty.
Hello what better s23U vs OP12???
thanks for the breath of fresh air...because I can't stand other youtubers hyping up garbage companies (🍎) (S) when there are other companies literary doing better, value for money...
In my experience it's not always about performance or cameras but sometimes it's just the software. I have a OnePlus Open and I've had other OnePlus devices. They are brilliant and I would never take try to deny that. But at the end of the day I'm willing to pay more for a Samsung because I prefer OneUI. For me modes and routines are a major plus
That's what I said in the video. A PERSONAL BIAS for software or a specific feature is fine to admit. Overall, if someone isn't using a feature like Dex tho, I can't say an S24+ is worth $200-$300 more than an OP12.
One plus 12 vs Motorola edge 50 ultra camera comparison
This is the best review I’ve ever seen. Unbiased
I've watched this already. I'm gonna watch it again
Re watched the video. Shared with my son. Oh, .and pulled the trigger. Calmly waiting until next week.
Congrats on the new phone!
My favorite is when my AirPods are dead, and my iPhone doesn't support reverse wireless charging, but wait! My AirPods have a lighting port and my iPhone has a USB C. Bruh. No one is carrying a usb c to lightning. The problem is that I'm too far gone with apple, though it's still nice to see all the innovations that other companies are putting out. Thanks for the video!
It's crazy to me. WHEN Apple gets new features, people FREAK out, but the tech "press" never highlights good features when they FIRST arrive on other devices.
If stuff like fast charging and reverse charging are valuable, they're valuable RIGHT NOW LOL.
Exactly. Thanks for covering the phones that actually need more attention.@@SomeGadgetGuy
I was attached to wireless but then I got a oneplus 11 & I got over it instantly. I pre ordered a OP12 jus to have a complete package.
I was HARDCORE on Qi charging back in the Lumia days, I really thought it would evolve into something cool. It's crazy to me how little we've seen it improve.
Op12 or Xiaomi 14? Camare performance
LOL so right, I have had OP.3,5,7and 9. still using 9. still has all of the performance you will need. Looking at 12 as 9 is getting old. always been under rated brand. great software. I have Samsung work phone.. so slow by comparison. use OP9 camera when I need a good detailed image. To say the cameras are not good.. I dont think so!
You can always tell the reviewers that haven't REALLY used an OP camera...
I love these kinds of reviews.
This guy just just killed every tech TH-camr out there. I just subscribed for the hat and not the review. Kidding lol!!! Love the hat though, have similar myself. Keep up the good work my friend!!! Buying the oneplus 12. Currently I have the iPhone 15 pro max.
Why am I not surprised to hear jazz on the speakers. That's a good thing...
I don't get "speaker tests" that play different tracks LOL. Like, that's not comparable with anything else if you keep changing the song...
I'm fighting the urge to pre-order pretty hard right now. I don't need one. My Pixel 7 Pro is still perfectly fine for my daily needs. I'm sure I'd also miss Google's call screening feature. I don't think OnePlus has anything comparable. I do miss the alert slider from the OnePlus 3 (that my kid is STILL using, original everything - including battery!) and OxygenOS was always a pretty solid skin. Thinking of digging out my original Motorola Milestone (Droid in the US) with ... Android 2.1(???) on it ... for a $150 trade. LOL I guess there's always the 15 day return window if I decide to stay Team Pixel. I've rooted for OnePlus most of their existence ... except for the years they faltered pretty hard with mediocre releases and bad software support. (7/8/9 era) Speaking of, I can't find anything in the announcement or on their website about a software update promise. With Samsung making big deals about it the last few years, Google moving to the 7 year promise, and Apple ALWAYS being very good about OS updates for years ... I was a bit sad to not see much mention of it, let alone no mention of it. Or did I miss it?
This video got me to subscribe. I really despise the SamApple fanboyism.
I want this phone so bad but it seems all the major brands Otterbox or tech21 all don’t carry accessories. I want to get the phone but if I can’t find decent trustworthy protection is it sturdy to survive???
I kinda like the TUdia and Poetic options
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Might trade in my fold5 for this
Where I live the OP12 is almost 1000 usd. Would it make more sense to go for the s24 ultra?
I really like OP phones, but if it's the same price as a Samsung ultra, and you can't beat the price with a sale or trade in, the galaxy is probably a better deal at that price.
This looks great, but I'm stuck between this and Vivo x100 pro( waiting to see if it gets released in the UK atm) because the Vivo is really catching my eye... But £899 for the OnePlus 12 is not bad.... Gutted about the IP68 rating though. I currently have the oppo find X5 pro so it'll be seamless going to the OP as I did have the OP7P back in the day before upgrading to X5 pro.... But I do like taking photos so I'm wondering how it would stack up. I think it'll be a big upgrade from my X5 pro but I'm tempted the Vivo looks really good🤣 but just availability here in the UK:(
The Vivo is a BRUTAL fight this year. I don't even know if the Vivo Pro+ will really be better than the Pro, given that new Dimensity...
I'd try it. Seems like a solid device.
Here is my biggest problem with OP12. It competes with phones like 24+, s24 ultra, iphone 15 pro max, google pixel 8 pro. However if from gsmarena you look at the dimensions, you will find that this phone is longer than all of its competitors while at the same time being narrower. You can't have it both ways. Can't be the longest and narrowest, it makes the phone very unpleasant to use especially if you come from using those competitor products, you will right away notice the difference. Make the phone a little shorter or increase the width.
Question to Juan. After using those competitor products, did the length or narrowness of the OP 12 bother you or was it unnoticeable?
The kind of "hand feel" you're describing is nearly imperceptible across all the phones you mention, arriving at similar aspect ratio screens.
That and I really like the Xperia which is taller than all of them.
Getting mine tomorrow. I was with Oneplus for the 6T, 7 Pro and the 8 Pro. Then the 9/10/11 lost me.
I went back to Samsung. Yes. Shame on me. Currently making this comment on a Fold 5. I would love to afford the Oneplus Open but.. Kids... I also really wanted the 1TB model but the wait times are insane in NZ. so the 512 model awaits me tomorrow morning.
Checked all the boxes except flat screen 🥲
They really failed with the uk pricing. You can import it from China for £300 less!
I wondered if this is a phone review or phone thesis for study purposes.
No desktop mode at all?
Sadly no. Video out is handy, and you can add other apps like second screen and taskbar, but the Android 14 desktop mode is even more broken than it was on A13.