Also, Spongebob would often feel bad for what he did to Squidward, even if he did nothing wrong. Spongebob cared about Squidward, and Squidward cared about Spongebob (even if he found him annoying most of the time)
@VotingChipmunk The least terrible modern episode I think is the "Enchanted Tiki Dreams" where for half the episode it's the usual torture but then Patrick and Spongebob finally realize Squidward is depressed. The second half is spent on Spognebob and Patrick making Squidward happy the correct way.
Squidward has his flaws where he does deserve some karma, but these days, he’s just a punching bag for no good reason. He’s my favorite character, and he doesn’t deserve to be treated like trash.
For example in older episodes like grandmas kisses or the yellow book where squidward watches SpongeBobs diary. In these episode Squidward should’ve had deserved an actual lesson, but as you said, Nickelodeon thinks we hate Squidward so they make this Weird crap since season 6
In the older episodes, he's depicted as a grouch who doesn't want to play with SpongeBob and can be a jerk to almost anyone who smiles in his face. After the movie, he just wanted to get on with his life then SpongeBob got high on ecstasy and got all in his face, at home and work, even going into "creep" mode. Not to mention having his dreams taken from him. 😔 Nickelodeon is very sadistic with the torture they put Squidward through.
I have a feeling even death would not save him. SpongeBob would just go out of his way to somehow revive Squidward, he's just that insane now. In concept this sounds like an awesome episode which would teach kids about moving on, and hell Squiddy could acctually return at the end and have a happy ending but obviously that's not allowed by modern standards (old modern standards anyway, they've been torturing him for years). And we can't forget about the good ol' status quo so he'd just go back to being tortured again.
The one good thing I can say about most of the Squidward torture episodes is that it makes Band Geeks & any other episodes where Squidward's happy/actually winning look so much better
If spongebob ever ends, what if the last episode was where squidward quits the krusty krab and moves away so he dosen't get tortured anymore. I would love that.
Now I want an episode of SpongeBob learning this, leading to squidward's sheer paranoia building up as he keeps expecting SpongeBob to pop out of nowhere, but he never does
@@djt08031996omgggg yessss, like squids day off, spying on SpongeBob to see when next hes gonna bother him instead of actually relaxing and enjoying being alone
Yeah this is such a bad thing to teach kids. As an introvert, I need alone time to recharge- don’t teach people that this is a bad thing deserving of punishment, and that it’s ok to harass and invade the privacy of the grumpy introvert!
At this point, I probably wouldn’t blame Squidward if he had Spongebob killed or something. Him having his back in a moment like Pizza Delivery would feel even less sense nowadays
@@StevenJones851I think the joke flew over your head lol EDIT: shut tf up about my reaction to him not understanding the “oh, so confusing” south park reference. I wasn’t even trying to come off as angry here and this comment was made as a simple laugh and wasn’t supposed to be serious and idgaf anymore.
I wonder what Squidwards voice actor thinks when he goes in the booth and records another episode of being emotionally and physically tormented. If I saw him irl I’d ask him if he cares about that or he doesn’t care because of the money
On a similar note, I wonder how Sponge and Patrick's VAs feel about voicing the various torturer scenes their characters have had over the years. I know they're all professionals, but that's still got to be pretty rough
I was gonna comment some smart essay-like reply but I can’t really put my thoughts into words so I’ll just say this: It sounds _too_ genuine compared to the old screaming. Think back to the old “My Leg!” gag and compare it to how it is now. It’s exactly like that
While watching "Little Yellow Book"... Everyone: "I hate Squidward for reading Spongebob's diary." Me: "I'd say Spongebob deserved it after invading Squidward's privacy numerous times, along with other atrocities."
(edit; hey I wrote this comment like 6 months ago and I was in a really heated mood so dont take my exaggerated anger too seriously ok thanks. TBH I dont even watch the show and haven’t for like 7 years) 19:29 "squidward calls in sick because he's literally too scared to go to work" I'm speechless. I genuinely can't believe someone would write something so cruel. This is a million times worse than him being tortured for no reason. This is literally him being tortured for going "I am so genuinely terrified to deal with the overstimulation and stress of being at work again that I need to call in sick and just take the day to relax." And then they actively torture him for it while playing it off like it's completely valid. Mr Krabs is LUCKY he even got a dang phone call. Squidward could've (and clearly SHOULD'VE) literally just stayed home with no notice. And Spongebob... jesus freaking christ. SPONGEBOB. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT GUY. SERIOUSLY. DOES HE GENUINELY JUST HAVE 0 IQ AND MORALITY??? DO THE *WRITERS* JUST HAVE 0 IQ AND MORALITY?? WHAT THE HELL????? THIS IS A SHOW FOR KIDS!!!!!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TEACH THEM GOOD LESSONS!!!!!! SO THEY GROW UP TO BE GOOD PEOPLE!!!!!! WHAT IS THIS TEACHING THEM??? IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO TORTURE PEOPLE IF YOU'RE STUPID??? sorry I gotta stop writing in all caps but this is genuinely pissing me off *Squidward is now the protagonist that everyone loves and roots for. Spongebob is now the braindead menace to society that I want to personally throw into a wall of spikes and lock in a mental asylum forever. And that's not a good thing.* Mindless unwarranted torture does not equal comedy, especially not in a kids show. I'm genuinely starting to think these writers need therapy.
They've flanderized and one-note'd characters like Spongebob and Pat to hell and back - they don't feel like 3d characters with actual personalities anymore. And it's clearly been hurting the enjoyability of the show - BADLY. I think a reason why we prefer the earlier seasons so much is because these characters still feel like PEOPLE more often than not.
I'm also convinced these writers are just running out of good ideas fast because of how long this series has been going on. It's hard to come up with new ideas. It doesn't exactly excuse these shit storylines but I can see why it may happen. Especially since they're also writing Kamp Koral / The Patrick Star Show. Give them a break? Hire new writers? Anything?
One thing i hate about modern SpongeBob is kind of a nitpick but it the fact SpongeBob and Patrick now can't stand squidward clarinet which they never had a problem with in the older series
SpongeBob tortures Squidward so badly that he wants to move out permanently and leave Bikini Bottom for good, but SpongeBob would continuously stalk him to force him to move back next to him so the torture can continue and SpongeBob would make sure Squidward can never move out
Episodes like "Jellyfishing", "Opposite Day" and "Club SpongeBob" are technically tortuing Squidward, but I think the reason neither of them are hated as much as later episodes are because.. In Jellyfishing, SpongeBob and Patrick are genuinely sorry about torturing Squidward and actually try to give him a gift, being a jellyfish. Squidward even gets some revenge in the end by sending the jellyfish to attack them. Same with Opposite Day, where, although not shown, it's implied Squidward got his revenge by chasing the two down with that bulldozer. Club SpongeBob at least has some iconic jokes and Squidward isn't really tortured as he is messed with. Modern SpongeBob just has Squidward suffer with no payoff. Half the time, he doesn't even get revenge or even deserve it. It just happens.
Mandatory Music is a modern episode, and Squidward literally got what he deserve in the ending where he got his music talent with his music being loved by everyone.
To go even further, Jellyfishing had a scene where Squidward slaps a Jellyfish at the beginning: which the writers might've treated as an act of animal abuse. Opposite day wasn't about bullying Squidward, it just had an ending that didn't work out in his favor. and Club Spongebob had Squidward be the one that caused them to get lost (Admittedly by accident) by climbing into their treehouse when they told him not to.
In Opposite Day Squidward ends up paying not being able to move because SpongeBob took his idea of being the opposite of how he is (excuse only to not have him being annoying for the house seller) In Club SpongeBob he 1- Mocks on them. 2- Gets in the treehouse, getting stuck in the process. 3- makes the treehouse launch them into the kelp forest. 4- makes fun of the magic shell. And ends up paying for his behaviour. Not because SpongeBob wants to make him suffer. In I Was a Teenage Gary, Squidward was irresponsible when Bob told him to take care of Gary. And he's tormented by snail Bob, and ends up becoming a snail too. Karma. In Squidward the Unfriendly Ghost he uses his aspect to fool them thinking he's a ghost, but everything gets out of hands when they try to BURY HIM ALIVE. Hell, even in Season 4. In Funny Pants he makes up something to make Bob stop laughing for one day. But in the end his lie was real and now he'll have the laugh he hates the most for himself. There are elements of KARMA and IRONY. Not just making him miserable for 11 minutes. Then you have things like Are You Happy Now? or Ink Lemonade.
I would say only Jellyfishing comes closes in the actual torture category; the other ones are more unintentionally ruining Squidward's day. And even then, most of the violence is accidental and besides the icon "Firmly grasp it" every injury Squidward suffers is abstract and caused by his own actions instead of Spongebob and Patrick bodily harming him.
I hated Club Spongebob. I don't understand the praise for that episode. It's boring, a squidward torture episode and Spongebob and Patrick being ignorant.
The fact that Nickelodeon came up with an episode where Squidward "deserves" to get tortured because he took a mental health day off from work says a lot about the working environment at Nickelodeon, which we all know is awful anyway, thanks to the Dan Schnieder info that came out recently. Not a good look for the company.
@@TheAnimatior1996Nah bro spongebob has been rotting. It's to be expected w a show this old. It does have some good jokes that I do enjoy, but you cannot defend those foot-narwal ppl 😂😂
Then why were people like “SpongeBob is good again hooray!” But now ever since this dude created his channel, People held up their pitchforks and hate on the poor show. Sure, people have opinions but jeez.
Probably the coldest take ever but I‘ve always hated the torture episodes, no matter who was the target. I just felt super bad for the characters and couldn‘t understand how someone could think it‘s funny to see someone in physical and emotional pain.
Modern Spongebob can be summed up as horrible people being horrible people to one another (sometimes without realization) and ONLY Squidward getting punished for it.
Im honestly flabbergasted. I never knew other SpongeBob fans considered the start of the shows “dark era” beginning with season six. I always thought the eighth season is when it went down hill. Like obviously the classics are 1-4 (it’s the reason damn near every frame becomes a meme) but I always thought 5-7 were still VERY good seasons, while clearly being taken in a different direction, its not as iconic but still very much SpongeBob. Season 8 and beyond is really when quality starts to diminish, where the characters become parodies of themselves…am I wrong?
I always thought after season 8 it was the dark era, seasons 6,7 and 8 are still pretty good. Even that one episode in season 8 with the golfing and destroying squidwards house, that was actually funny.
This is why I liked Little Yellow Book because after seeing Squidward getting tortured by SpongeBob, I actually rooted for Squidward to be an asshole towards SpongeBob as payback
16:44 That's what I miss about the newer episodes. The awareness that Spongebob and Patrick used to have. I can definitely see Patrick breaking the crank in the older seasons, but he would be aware that he fucked up. And even if not, then Spongebob would certainly be aware of it as soon Patrick shows him the crank. In an older episode they would probably run around the rope drum in panik, not knowing what they should do and then actually try everything to stop it.
This just depressed me, SpongeBob went from being whimsical and naive, to a complete child-like stalker that is WAY too happy all the time. SpongeBob has been on air FOR WAY TOO DAMN LONG!!!! NICK, CANCEL THIS SHOW *NOW!!!!!*
@diegobob278 This channel primarily criticizes Spongebob, especially Modern era, you could say the same thing to Awe about ignoring the series when it comes too something like that. But it's what he is dedicated to and what his audience is as well, so there will be comments like this that criticize or complain about it to since that's just too be expected.
The memory episode doesn’t even make sense. I thought that nobody was supposed to memorize the secret formula. This was mentioned during Sponge out of Water.
SpongeBob's quote at 2:24 is downright creepy and makes him seem more like an obsessive stalker than the lovable goof we once knew and loved. The secret formula being erased with SpongeBob's memory seems like too much of a plot contrivance, more so as it's a well known fact that SpongeBob is NOT the only person who knows the formula, Mr. Krabs keeps it locked up in his vault. Looking back at The Seaman SpongeBob Haters' Club likewise, its biggest issue is that, on the surface, it appears to be an "Unreliable narrator" situation, with each character exaggerating each story they tell, but instead....each story is completely and utterly true. Not only does this make no sense, but it makes SpongeBob look completely out of character!
Saying that newer seasons don't have Squidward TP (abbreviated due to yt politics) is ignoring the giant laser-eyed elephant in the room. INK LEMONADE. An episode entirely dedicated in making him suffer. For no reason. Patrick became a psychopath. For no reason.
modern Spongebob is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine ! It cheers me up with all the bright colors and randomness. It has saved me through a lot of dark times.
Squidward is a grumpy jerk sure, but what made his harm funny is when he actually deserved it! Now he’s tortured for simply just existing and it makes you feel horrible for the guy!
Most positive? Understatement of the century 😂😂😂 It's really sad how much the characters have drifted from their fundamentals. You'd think the writers would listen to feedback, but alas.
@@oatmeal3013 That's true. Quality in creative works is complex. Hillenburg was on point when he originally said he didn't want SpongeBob to be on the air for too long. Most of the original team wouldn't have left if there was still a genuine passion to keep going.
I swear, if Squidward would ever have a comeback and get revenge just like in opposite day where he does and rarely gets his revenge, with good reason and intention too.. I miss that era.
14:10 I actually had a cat that would attack strangers but was super sweet on people she knew. Like, she if she didnt know them she would bolt towards them, climb up their body, and scratch the crap out of their face. She was a rescue, and by that I mean my mom foumd her living in a hole on the country club she did landscaping for.
To be entirely fair on Gary acting as a guard dog, cats have been shown to be EXTREMELY protective of their less "capable" humans, when they've actually bonded, such as famously an instance of a cat jumping a loose dog who attacked the family toddler. And we're not talking a small breed here, the cat basically went full honeybadger and squared up against something bigger than it with zero hesitation and won... Also using someone's pool without asking is mega-creepy and Gary's probably smart enough to recognize that (being that he's significantly smarter than Spongebob and possibly a cosmic entity).
The funniest part is that the episode "Mandatory Music" from this exact same season did Squidward torture right, yet none of the other episodes could get it right.
1:30 Alright, hot take but haphazardly erasing someone's memory without his consent after breaking into his house IS doing something. It's a bad episode but the whole "squidward is completely innocent" perspective falls flat in that regard. Also, Swimming Fools isn't really a squidward torture. There wasn't anything stopping him from coming clean in the entire episode, and he got to use it for a whole night before he turned himself into a pool toy and let himself be used for whatever reason (weird writer fetish stuff idk.) Even that drop at the end only amounted to being a belly flop which felt much less deliberate than other cases of squidward torture. Getting hit by dirt and a shovel doesn't qualify for "squidward torture," and definitely not on the level of getting an urchin shoved down your throat like in sick daze.
Kenny dying is a running gag. It typically doesn’t take up an entire episode of just Kenny being tortured and maimed. The fact that there is essentially an entire genre of episode where the central premise is Squidward being tortured for 11 minutes implies that maybe it’s overdone *juuuuuust* a tad.
Firstly, Kenny torture was there since the first episode so there was no flanderization or pre-torture character to look back on. Secondly, it always takes like 30 seconds instead of a whole episode.
Now i understand why Squidward was avoiding Spongebob like the plague. Spongebob was secretly a psychopath. 14:17 Actually believe it or not, there are cats that can be pretty agressive too. There was once a news post where a cat protected his home from a robber. And other one where a cat protected her owner's kid from some big ctocodiles. Cats can also hunt snakes too. So there are cases but very rare. Especially for house cats that mainly live in houses.
We get it Why can they just leave poor Squidward alone and eaither have his dreams come true or have him move on with his life move away and just get a new job I feel bad for Squidward
I think the reason the Post-Hillenberg era gets away with it is because they never get gruesome like the Dark Era did, nor get too psychological. But the basic flaws of an STP remain in the Post-Hillenberg, and the Dark Era ones were actually more interesting to view and critique.
I actually think that seasons 9b-12 treated Squidward better, there were a couple of episodes where it wasn't SpongeBob and Patrick bothering him for 11 minutes, and the torture episodes had been toned down, with only a couple around (Bunny Hunt, Ink Lemonade, Squid's On A Bus, Jolly Lodgers), and some of them were justified, Life Insurance and Sportz? are the best example of that, but in season 13 it has no justification Squidward is tortured again to generate humor, the only one I liked was Swimming Fools just because I felt that it was deserved, the rest of the episodes of Squidward Torture of season 13 are terrible, Friendiversary is the one that disappointed me most because it was an episode that had a lot of potential to focus on the relationship between SpongeBob and Squidward, but was wasted by focusing on nostalgia and making it just another SpongeBob episode bothering Squidward, which is why I wasn't bothered by the fact that Squidward wanted to erase his memories.
@@StevenJones851 More than a mixed bag, I feel like I fail more, there are more negative things in the season that I have already mentioned, and it makes me consider it on par with season 7
Why do the episode writers keep writing Squidware torture episodes? What is it about that trope that they find so enthralling? Do they write these types of episodes because they think the audience enjoys them? If so, what segment of the audience likes them? Do young children like them and find them funny? I'm struggling to understand.
Theory: the real spongebob and patrick got kidnapped by some mermaids and were replaced but squidward was not aware and thought they had just gone way more annoying.
I will say it is established in at least one other episode that garry doesn't like squidward and will attack him. The one where squidward gets stuck in cement
Honestly, I’m surprised that squidward has been through so much but hasn’t done anything about it, like get a therapist or put a restraining order against everyone who treats him like an ass
People will make fun of me for watching it in the first place but this exact torture is why i can't watch annoying orange anymore. Because if any you don't know, there is a character called pear that is exactly pinpoint squidward and he gets tortured EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Heck, it might even be worse because Squidward atleast back then did something to make it justified. Pear never deserved any torture at all. He got his birthday present destroyed, got embrassed in front of his crush/best friend causing her to never show up again and for the physical torture he gets squashed, ripped, set on fire and if i listed everything he got physically tortured by it would be long.
Delete this before anyone else sees that you actually admitted you watched that. The reason to pass that show.... should be because YOU GREW THE FUCK UP..... unless you're under the age of 5, that show should not be entertaining you in anyway. Get some help(you aren't the only commenter in this videos threads that needs to "get helo".... I'm notiv8ng a LOT of crossover between "watches modern SpongeBob past assumed age of 12" and "genuinely needs to seek out therapy of some form".
Delete this before anyone else sees that you actually admitted you watched that. The reason to pass that show.... should be because YOU GREW THE FUCK UP..... unless you're under the age of 5, that show should not be entertaining you in anyway. Get some help(you aren't the only commenter in this videos threads that needs to "get helo".... I'm notiv8ng a LOT of crossover between "watches modern SpongeBob past assumed age of 12" and "genuinely needs to seek out therapy of some form".
@shaansingh6048 Back then, pear got more spotlight with multiple episodes showing he can be cool. Nowadays, that doesn't happen and restating squidward was a jerk back then making it justified. Pear has done literally nothing wrong. Random, but do you find Annoying Orange and Dick Figures similar?
In earlier seasons, Squidward was a jerk and got tortured as karma... Now he gets tortured for simply existing.
Also, Spongebob would often feel bad for what he did to Squidward, even if he did nothing wrong. Spongebob cared about Squidward, and Squidward cared about Spongebob (even if he found him annoying most of the time)
@@symptomofsoulsthis is why Pizza Delivery and Band Geeks are still my favorite episodes.
Sometimes like skill crane he wasn't a jerk until he was tortured and finally won interestingly
Maybe Squidward did one bad deed too many and Spongebob went from being a peaceful deity to a wrathful deity.
@VotingChipmunk The least terrible modern episode I think is the "Enchanted Tiki Dreams" where for half the episode it's the usual torture but then Patrick and Spongebob finally realize Squidward is depressed. The second half is spent on Spognebob and Patrick making Squidward happy the correct way.
Squidward has his flaws where he does deserve some karma, but these days, he’s just a punching bag for no good reason.
He’s my favorite character, and he doesn’t deserve to be treated like trash.
Exactly like bro would literally not even be doing anything in an episode and then have to experience the most gruesome pain imaginable
Yeah.
For example in older episodes like grandmas kisses or the yellow book where squidward watches SpongeBobs diary. In these episode Squidward should’ve had deserved an actual lesson, but as you said, Nickelodeon thinks we hate Squidward so they make this Weird crap since season 6
He truly is the Butters of South Park, he just exists to be a punching bag.
In the older episodes, he's depicted as a grouch who doesn't want to play with SpongeBob and can be a jerk to almost anyone who smiles in his face. After the movie, he just wanted to get on with his life then SpongeBob got high on ecstasy and got all in his face, at home and work, even going into "creep" mode. Not to mention having his dreams taken from him. 😔 Nickelodeon is very sadistic with the torture they put Squidward through.
A certain creepypasta about said squid is feeling a lot more justified now
You mean squidward's s**cide?
Red Mist/Squidward's Suicide?
@@TheBlueMarbleNationalist Yeah, that one
I have a feeling even death would not save him. SpongeBob would just go out of his way to somehow revive Squidward, he's just that insane now.
In concept this sounds like an awesome episode which would teach kids about moving on, and hell Squiddy could acctually return at the end and have a happy ending but obviously that's not allowed by modern standards (old modern standards anyway, they've been torturing him for years). And we can't forget about the good ol' status quo so he'd just go back to being tortured again.
@@Kyumifun Do you mean not even?
The old spongebob didn't mean to hurt squidward that's the joke, this one just seems to have spongebob try to destroy him for some reason
@@Goatsdfdsfgdfg the original was just clumsy and optimistic. Now he's like a little brother Squidward needs to take care of.
This.
This is why I loved when squidward was happy, like when SpongeBob make his tiki land or when they made a band, it made me shed a tear.
The one good thing I can say about most of the Squidward torture episodes is that it makes Band Geeks & any other episodes where Squidward's happy/actually winning look so much better
@@TimerdonDWI True, that’s my fav episode
I wish Tiki Land was real ugh
If spongebob ever ends, what if the last episode was where squidward quits the krusty krab and moves away so he dosen't get tortured anymore. I would love that.
There was already an episode where he quit the Krusty Krab, and an episode where he moved away
@@platinum3690 yes but then he came back
But It would still be reusing two different episode's plots.
@@platinum3690 OKAY so? that would still be a good plot
I would just prefer the finale being an original Idea rather than stealing the plot from two different episodes.
Squidward died and the modern seasons are hell theory
That would explain Spongebob's actions. That's how Squidward sees him.
I just realised how spongebob’s face is pushed up a bit and stretched like 85% in season 13
It's too big
botox failure
whats up with nickelodeon's squidward torture fetish
Idk they got some weird people behind the scenes lol.
@@DrGiggleTouch67 Dan Schneider basically proves that Nickelodeon has SOMETHING wrong happening behind the scenes 💀
@@angelgarcia4641and as well as how Nick never gives any show another chance UNLESS its just like Spongebob sorta views ( The Loud House, etc. )
@@angelgarcia4641 Nickelodeon is very weird
@@villainkaiju im Suprised the loud house is very popular
Not once has that yellow lad learned that Mr. Squidward needs some personal space and alone time
Now I want an episode of SpongeBob learning this, leading to squidward's sheer paranoia building up as he keeps expecting SpongeBob to pop out of nowhere, but he never does
He did actually in Squid Wood from season 4 and he created Mini-Squidward as a solution.
@@djt08031996you want Plankton Paranoia with Squidward and SpongeBob which was already similar to Clams?
@@djt08031996omgggg yessss, like squids day off, spying on SpongeBob to see when next hes gonna bother him instead of actually relaxing and enjoying being alone
Yeah this is such a bad thing to teach kids. As an introvert, I need alone time to recharge- don’t teach people that this is a bad thing deserving of punishment, and that it’s ok to harass and invade the privacy of the grumpy introvert!
At this point, I probably wouldn’t blame Squidward if he had Spongebob killed or something. Him having his back in a moment like Pizza Delivery would feel even less sense nowadays
Yeah unfortunately
Soon, Squidward is going to end up like Kenny.
Kenny??
@@StevenJones851 Oh my god, they killed Squidward!
@@THEMAXIMUM7816 yeah Squidward got killed!!! Noooooo
@@StevenJones851I think the joke flew over your head lol
EDIT: shut tf up about my reaction to him not understanding the “oh, so confusing” south park reference. I wasn’t even trying to come off as angry here and this comment was made as a simple laugh and wasn’t supposed to be serious and idgaf anymore.
@@butter-oq6yz ??
I wonder what Squidwards voice actor thinks when he goes in the booth and records another episode of being emotionally and physically tormented. If I saw him irl I’d ask him if he cares about that or he doesn’t care because of the money
On a similar note, I wonder how Sponge and Patrick's VAs feel about voicing the various torturer scenes their characters have had over the years. I know they're all professionals, but that's still got to be pretty rough
Squidward's screams at the pool are actually scary, what the hell.
Right?? The music doesn’t fit, either! I wonder how Roger Bumpass feels about this whole plottline that just needs to DIE??
Give a time stamp bruh
16:05 and 17:04 , 17:16
I was gonna comment some smart essay-like reply but I can’t really put my thoughts into words so I’ll just say this: It sounds _too_ genuine compared to the old screaming. Think back to the old “My Leg!” gag and compare it to how it is now. It’s exactly like that
While watching "Little Yellow Book"...
Everyone: "I hate Squidward for reading Spongebob's diary."
Me: "I'd say Spongebob deserved it after invading Squidward's privacy numerous times, along with other atrocities."
FR LIKE- why is that so true ; ;
nah he deserved the karma he got in that episode, he literally gathered a gang of bullies to harass spongebob lmao
(edit; hey I wrote this comment like 6 months ago and I was in a really heated mood so dont take my exaggerated anger too seriously ok thanks. TBH I dont even watch the show and haven’t for like 7 years)
19:29 "squidward calls in sick because he's literally too scared to go to work"
I'm speechless. I genuinely can't believe someone would write something so cruel.
This is a million times worse than him being tortured for no reason. This is literally him being tortured for going "I am so genuinely terrified to deal with the overstimulation and stress of being at work again that I need to call in sick and just take the day to relax."
And then they actively torture him for it while playing it off like it's completely valid.
Mr Krabs is LUCKY he even got a dang phone call. Squidward could've (and clearly SHOULD'VE) literally just stayed home with no notice.
And Spongebob... jesus freaking christ. SPONGEBOB. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT GUY. SERIOUSLY. DOES HE GENUINELY JUST HAVE 0 IQ AND MORALITY??? DO THE *WRITERS* JUST HAVE 0 IQ AND MORALITY?? WHAT THE HELL?????
THIS IS A SHOW FOR KIDS!!!!!!
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TEACH THEM GOOD LESSONS!!!!!! SO THEY GROW UP TO BE GOOD PEOPLE!!!!!!
WHAT IS THIS TEACHING THEM??? IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO TORTURE PEOPLE IF YOU'RE STUPID???
sorry I gotta stop writing in all caps but this is genuinely pissing me off
*Squidward is now the protagonist that everyone loves and roots for. Spongebob is now the braindead menace to society that I want to personally throw into a wall of spikes and lock in a mental asylum forever. And that's not a good thing.*
Mindless unwarranted torture does not equal comedy, especially not in a kids show. I'm genuinely starting to think these writers need therapy.
They've flanderized and one-note'd characters like Spongebob and Pat to hell and back - they don't feel like 3d characters with actual personalities anymore. And it's clearly been hurting the enjoyability of the show - BADLY. I think a reason why we prefer the earlier seasons so much is because these characters still feel like PEOPLE more often than not.
I'm also convinced these writers are just running out of good ideas fast because of how long this series has been going on. It's hard to come up with new ideas. It doesn't exactly excuse these shit storylines but I can see why it may happen. Especially since they're also writing Kamp Koral / The Patrick Star Show. Give them a break? Hire new writers? Anything?
And Patrick is the menace's lackey.
You were definitely NOT speechless
@@Leevillain youre right I was speechful
One thing i hate about modern SpongeBob is kind of a nitpick but it the fact SpongeBob and Patrick now can't stand squidward clarinet which they never had a problem with in the older series
SpongeBob tortures Squidward so badly that he wants to move out permanently and leave Bikini Bottom for good, but SpongeBob would continuously stalk him to force him to move back next to him so the torture can continue and SpongeBob would make sure Squidward can never move out
Episodes like "Jellyfishing", "Opposite Day" and "Club SpongeBob" are technically tortuing Squidward, but I think the reason neither of them are hated as much as later episodes are because..
In Jellyfishing, SpongeBob and Patrick are genuinely sorry about torturing Squidward and actually try to give him a gift, being a jellyfish. Squidward even gets some revenge in the end by sending the jellyfish to attack them. Same with Opposite Day, where, although not shown, it's implied Squidward got his revenge by chasing the two down with that bulldozer.
Club SpongeBob at least has some iconic jokes and Squidward isn't really tortured as he is messed with.
Modern SpongeBob just has Squidward suffer with no payoff. Half the time, he doesn't even get revenge or even deserve it. It just happens.
Mandatory Music is a modern episode, and Squidward literally got what he deserve in the ending where he got his music talent with his music being loved by everyone.
To go even further, Jellyfishing had a scene where Squidward slaps a Jellyfish at the beginning: which the writers might've treated as an act of animal abuse.
Opposite day wasn't about bullying Squidward, it just had an ending that didn't work out in his favor.
and Club Spongebob had Squidward be the one that caused them to get lost (Admittedly by accident) by climbing into their treehouse when they told him not to.
In Opposite Day Squidward ends up paying not being able to move because SpongeBob took his idea of being the opposite of how he is (excuse only to not have him being annoying for the house seller)
In Club SpongeBob he
1- Mocks on them.
2- Gets in the treehouse, getting stuck in the process.
3- makes the treehouse launch them into the kelp forest.
4- makes fun of the magic shell.
And ends up paying for his behaviour. Not because SpongeBob wants to make him suffer.
In I Was a Teenage Gary, Squidward was irresponsible when Bob told him to take care of Gary. And he's tormented by snail Bob, and ends up becoming a snail too.
Karma.
In Squidward the Unfriendly Ghost he uses his aspect to fool them thinking he's a ghost, but everything gets out of hands when they try to BURY HIM ALIVE.
Hell, even in Season 4.
In Funny Pants he makes up something to make Bob stop laughing for one day. But in the end his lie was real and now he'll have the laugh he hates the most for himself.
There are elements of KARMA and IRONY. Not just making him miserable for 11 minutes.
Then you have things like Are You Happy Now? or Ink Lemonade.
I would say only Jellyfishing comes closes in the actual torture category; the other ones are more unintentionally ruining Squidward's day.
And even then, most of the violence is accidental and besides the icon "Firmly grasp it" every injury Squidward suffers is abstract and caused by his own actions instead of Spongebob and Patrick bodily harming him.
I hated Club Spongebob. I don't understand the praise for that episode. It's boring, a squidward torture episode and Spongebob and Patrick being ignorant.
The fact that Nickelodeon came up with an episode where Squidward "deserves" to get tortured because he took a mental health day off from work says a lot about the working environment at Nickelodeon, which we all know is awful anyway, thanks to the Dan Schnieder info that came out recently. Not a good look for the company.
The golden age actually warned us about “Dirty Dan”. What a fall from grace:
Modern spongebob is just so mean spirited and cruel.
Very reflective of the people that run this show now.
@mateusgreenwood1096 You got brainwashed by awe. He wants people to hate SpongeBob because he doesn’t
@@TheAnimatior1996 no, i saw it myself and it sucked
@@TheAnimatior1996Nah bro spongebob has been rotting. It's to be expected w a show this old. It does have some good jokes that I do enjoy, but you cannot defend those foot-narwal ppl 😂😂
Then why were people like “SpongeBob is good again hooray!” But now ever since this dude created his channel, People held up their pitchforks and hate on the poor show. Sure, people have opinions but jeez.
Probably the coldest take ever but I‘ve always hated the torture episodes, no matter who was the target. I just felt super bad for the characters and couldn‘t understand how someone could think it‘s funny to see someone in physical and emotional pain.
Same except if its Mr crabs getting tortured lol
how about if the character deserves it
@@Retro_Edits763 In the context of the episode?
Yeah as a kid I hated that trope so much and it was prevalent in so many cartoons
Cold take… thats new
I want the Squidward Torture to stop.
I agree it’s getting really annoying.
#JusticeforSquidward
@@GreydaCloud Yes
You can stop it by not watching the show. Nothing after the movie matters anyway, and has no bearing on the real Spongebob.
@@Jamseth_Ingramiousdid we ask for your opinion? No we didn’t
Squidward is up there with Kenny and Meg in most tortured characters in media at this point.
Megward the Wizard
The saddest part is iirc Family Guy started toning it down
Then family guy decided to tone down her mistreatment, not SpongeBob.. yet
At least Kenny takes W's too, like scaring his parents into being less abusive towards him and his siblings as his Mysterion persona.
Tom
Modern Spongebob can be summed up as horrible people being horrible people to one another (sometimes without realization) and ONLY Squidward getting punished for it.
Kid family guy
Who knew squidward would become a sympathetic and relatable character
Growing up does things to you
always has been.
I don’t think squidward would have snuck into spongebobs pool. Instead I think he’d be the type to build a fancier pool in his own yard. 17:44
Im honestly flabbergasted. I never knew other SpongeBob fans considered the start of the shows “dark era” beginning with season six. I always thought the eighth season is when it went down hill. Like obviously the classics are 1-4 (it’s the reason damn near every frame becomes a meme) but I always thought 5-7 were still VERY good seasons, while clearly being taken in a different direction, its not as iconic but still very much SpongeBob. Season 8 and beyond is really when quality starts to diminish, where the characters become parodies of themselves…am I wrong?
i think about the same thing
I always thought after season 8 it was the dark era, seasons 6,7 and 8 are still pretty good. Even that one episode in season 8 with the golfing and destroying squidwards house, that was actually funny.
Snails in Sponge Bob are a weird cross between snails, cats, dogs, and other things as well. They meow, but they have a lot of dog tendencies.
This is why I liked Little Yellow Book because after seeing Squidward getting tortured by SpongeBob, I actually rooted for Squidward to be an asshole towards SpongeBob as payback
This is even worse when you consider the fact that the oil bucket scene from "Just One Bite" was banned way back when for being too gruesome...
squidward: exists
creators: hmm… i have no ideas… how about make a squidward torture episode but make it look original.
The Meg-ification of Squidward
It's like they're making karma stories without putting the bad thing first
Spongebob would get cancelled for harassment if he and Squidward were real.
Spongebob woulda been shot ages ago if he were real lmao
@@TheReZisTLust that or squidward would've done something gravely wrong to himself
@@MarcusCollins69 Probably woulda had law on his side and they force a res order
well tbf even pre movie all the characters have done very illegal things but the cops only care about littering and anything Mrs. Puff does
16:44 That's what I miss about the newer episodes. The awareness that Spongebob and Patrick used to have. I can definitely see Patrick breaking the crank in the older seasons, but he would be aware that he fucked up. And even if not, then Spongebob would certainly be aware of it as soon Patrick shows him the crank.
In an older episode they would probably run around the rope drum in panik, not knowing what they should do and then actually try everything to stop it.
The squidward sick day one is just a portrayal of the American working life
15:32
Welcome to another episode of "Writer's poorly hidden fetish"-
This just depressed me, SpongeBob went from being whimsical and naive, to a complete child-like stalker that is WAY too happy all the time.
SpongeBob has been on air FOR WAY TOO DAMN LONG!!!! NICK, CANCEL THIS SHOW *NOW!!!!!*
@diegobob278people are allowed to criticize a franchise they enjoy, same as how you're allowed to praise it
@diegobob278 This channel primarily criticizes Spongebob, especially Modern era, you could say the same thing to Awe about ignoring the series when it comes too something like that. But it's what he is dedicated to and what his audience is as well, so there will be comments like this that criticize or complain about it to since that's just too be expected.
@@Koop_Soupagree
Goodbye Krabby Patty should’ve been the series finale.
@diegobob278 well 9 seasons was enough for me but thoughts respected.
No wonder that squidward su*cide is canon now...
The memory episode doesn’t even make sense. I thought that nobody was supposed to memorize the secret formula. This was mentioned during Sponge out of Water.
Maybe Gary is still mad at Squidward for what he did to him in Season 11
@diegobob278 of course not that episode is the reason why Gary hates Squidward
Spongebob to most people: Awwww he’s so cute and funny & sweet!
Spongebob to Squidward: NOOOO HE IS THE DEVIL GET MY HIM AWAY FROM ME!!!! 0:00
Squidward before: Meanie who is jealous of SpongeBob.
Squidward post movie: The only sane person in town.
SpongeBob's quote at 2:24 is downright creepy and makes him seem more like an obsessive stalker than the lovable goof we once knew and loved. The secret formula being erased with SpongeBob's memory seems like too much of a plot contrivance, more so as it's a well known fact that SpongeBob is NOT the only person who knows the formula, Mr. Krabs keeps it locked up in his vault.
Looking back at The Seaman SpongeBob Haters' Club likewise, its biggest issue is that, on the surface, it appears to be an "Unreliable narrator" situation, with each character exaggerating each story they tell, but instead....each story is completely and utterly true. Not only does this make no sense, but it makes SpongeBob look completely out of character!
Squidward has to be Indestructible at this point
i mean he’s literally been getting nuked since the start of the show
In my opinion SpongeBob ended the second the original creator died
18:05 - It would be a "you like krabby paddies don't you squidward" moment
Speaking of that, it would also be like Squidward getting tortured for secretly liking krabby paddies.
WHAT SPONGEBOB ISINT SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE KRABBY PATTIE FORMULA!!!!
14:00 They actually found a way to make Gary unlikable
Man I miss when the characters actually acted like adults. Now all of them are stupid, irrational, and only do stuff to make more money for the show.
Saying that newer seasons don't have Squidward TP (abbreviated due to yt politics) is ignoring the giant laser-eyed elephant in the room. INK LEMONADE.
An episode entirely dedicated in making him suffer. For no reason.
Patrick became a psychopath.
For no reason.
modern Spongebob is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine ! It cheers me up with all the bright colors and randomness. It has saved me through a lot of dark times.
Squidward is a grumpy jerk sure, but what made his harm funny is when he actually deserved it! Now he’s tortured for simply just existing and it makes you feel horrible for the guy!
2:29 Squidward's head is like Ren's the chihuahua.
I noticed it too.
oooh thats cool. i noticed it a bit too
Most positive? Understatement of the century 😂😂😂
It's really sad how much the characters have drifted from their fundamentals. You'd think the writers would listen to feedback, but alas.
yeah they flanderized everybody
it's not the writers not listening, it's the executives and shareholders puppeting them that won't listen.
if it was as simple as letting writers write good things, a lot of media would be better.
@@oatmeal3013 That's true. Quality in creative works is complex. Hillenburg was on point when he originally said he didn't want SpongeBob to be on the air for too long. Most of the original team wouldn't have left if there was still a genuine passion to keep going.
Gary attacking even though hes a "cat" IS the joke.
Also there are attack cats sometimes.
bro has a Spongesona and it’s gas
I swear, if Squidward would ever have a comeback and get revenge just like in opposite day where he does and rarely gets his revenge, with good reason and intention too.. I miss that era.
14:10 I actually had a cat that would attack strangers but was super sweet on people she knew. Like, she if she didnt know them she would bolt towards them, climb up their body, and scratch the crap out of their face. She was a rescue, and by that I mean my mom foumd her living in a hole on the country club she did landscaping for.
Bye Squidward!😃👋
Bye Mr Krabs!😃👋
Bye Squidward 😏👋
Here lies squidward
To be entirely fair on Gary acting as a guard dog, cats have been shown to be EXTREMELY protective of their less "capable" humans, when they've actually bonded, such as famously an instance of a cat jumping a loose dog who attacked the family toddler. And we're not talking a small breed here, the cat basically went full honeybadger and squared up against something bigger than it with zero hesitation and won... Also using someone's pool without asking is mega-creepy and Gary's probably smart enough to recognize that (being that he's significantly smarter than Spongebob and possibly a cosmic entity).
The funniest part is that the episode "Mandatory Music" from this exact same season did Squidward torture right, yet none of the other episodes could get it right.
SpongeBob and Patrick's characters have been completely ruined again, as they're now ruining everyone's lives, not just Squidward's
I read the title as Squidward won't stop torturing Squidward
The only one of these episodes I've seen is Plane to Sea. I agree it was watchable. Friendiversary looks like nostalgia bait trash.
Plan too see was ok just the ending was sad
@@StevenJones851 Yeah I agree, Squidward deserved to stay there at the end.
@@JaredGriffiths2000 yeah he definitely did it was irritating not seeing him get that vacation
Friendiversary is great
Swimming Fools is great
Plane to Sea is closer to decent
When I watched the new episodes, compared to the olds, I feel like SpongeBob is being very "affectionated" with Squidward than before...
At this point its just leading to a squidward villain arc..
I wish there was a role reversal where Soongebob suffers instead
that one episode when Sandy is about to hibernate and drags SpongeBob into doing tons of painful stuff actually makes me feel better now
1:30 Alright, hot take but haphazardly erasing someone's memory without his consent after breaking into his house IS doing something. It's a bad episode but the whole "squidward is completely innocent" perspective falls flat in that regard.
Also, Swimming Fools isn't really a squidward torture. There wasn't anything stopping him from coming clean in the entire episode, and he got to use it for a whole night before he turned himself into a pool toy and let himself be used for whatever reason (weird writer fetish stuff idk.) Even that drop at the end only amounted to being a belly flop which felt much less deliberate than other cases of squidward torture. Getting hit by dirt and a shovel doesn't qualify for "squidward torture," and definitely not on the level of getting an urchin shoved down your throat like in sick daze.
Considering how bad NickeIodeon has become, shouId we reaIIy be surprised that Squidward *stiII* doesn't take the break he deserves?
SpongeBob was never that likeable. But at least he didn't treat Squidward as bad as the newer seasons. They really need to axe this show already.
I haven’t watch South Park, but what makes Kenny torture so much better than Squidward torture
Kenny dying is a running gag. It typically doesn’t take up an entire episode of just Kenny being tortured and maimed. The fact that there is essentially an entire genre of episode where the central premise is Squidward being tortured for 11 minutes implies that maybe it’s overdone *juuuuuust* a tad.
It’s a gag that usually doesn’t take more than a few minutes from an episode, squidward torture is the episode….
theres actually in lore reasons for it
@@ThatOneGuy-dc2xe south park is an adult show and the joke is being awful and disgusting. So it isn't a good comparison.
Firstly, Kenny torture was there since the first episode so there was no flanderization or pre-torture character to look back on. Secondly, it always takes like 30 seconds instead of a whole episode.
Nick really teached spongebob in the wrong way
Now i understand why Squidward was avoiding Spongebob like the plague. Spongebob was secretly a psychopath.
14:17 Actually believe it or not, there are cats that can be pretty agressive too. There was once a news post where a cat protected his home from a robber. And other one where a cat protected her owner's kid from some big ctocodiles. Cats can also hunt snakes too. So there are cases but very rare. Especially for house cats that mainly live in houses.
The "squidward torture" was justified in Swimming Fools, except for the very ending
Look how they massacred my boy
Everyone: Hey, Nickelodeon, can you make a Squidword episode where he doesn't get tortured at all and actually has a good time?
Nickelodeon: No 😀
Hey look! You’re back! :D
Spongebob should have ended when Stephen Hillenburg wanted it to.
Season 9 felt promising then it immediately went downhill tbh
Exactly.
bro has a SpongeBob OC
We get it Why can they just leave poor Squidward alone and eaither have his dreams come true or have him move on with his life move away and just get a new job I feel bad for Squidward
...is this a spongebob fishsona?
I think the reason the Post-Hillenberg era gets away with it is because they never get gruesome like the Dark Era did, nor get too psychological. But the basic flaws of an STP remain in the Post-Hillenberg, and the Dark Era ones were actually more interesting to view and critique.
Having this deep of a level of empathy for a fictional cartoon character is crazy. Good video though.
If i cant even feel emotions for any fictional media thats designed to make us feel emotions then i dont know why make any fictional media at all
I actually think that seasons 9b-12 treated Squidward better, there were a couple of episodes where it wasn't SpongeBob and Patrick bothering him for 11 minutes, and the torture episodes had been toned down, with only a couple around (Bunny Hunt, Ink Lemonade, Squid's On A Bus, Jolly Lodgers), and some of them were justified, Life Insurance and Sportz? are the best example of that, but in season 13 it has no justification Squidward is tortured again to generate humor, the only one I liked was Swimming Fools just because I felt that it was deserved, the rest of the episodes of Squidward Torture of season 13 are terrible, Friendiversary is the one that disappointed me most because it was an episode that had a lot of potential to focus on the relationship between SpongeBob and Squidward, but was wasted by focusing on nostalgia and making it just another SpongeBob episode bothering Squidward, which is why I wasn't bothered by the fact that Squidward wanted to erase his memories.
Season 13 has been a mixed bag
@@StevenJones851 More than a mixed bag, I feel like I fail more, there are more negative things in the season that I have already mentioned, and it makes me consider it on par with season 7
@@maxsteellatino3241 nah I'd take this over Season 7 that Season was Terrible this is a improvement more
Spongebob and Squidward torture is like the Mario & Luigi series and its strange hatred of Luigi
I watching this for annual “Annoy Squidward Day” (January 15th)
Dude take that fish out the voice is fine 😂
Bro let him have his spongesona I want a spongesona
Now we know why squidward wanted to...well, you know...in Red Mist.
Why do the episode writers keep writing Squidware torture episodes? What is it about that trope that they find so enthralling? Do they write these types of episodes because they think the audience enjoys them? If so, what segment of the audience likes them? Do young children like them and find them funny? I'm struggling to understand.
Wonder if this is how those anti spongebob parents saw classic spongebob
probably, classic spongebob was gory for a children’s cartoon of its time
Theory: the real spongebob and patrick got kidnapped by some mermaids and were replaced but squidward was not aware and thought they had just gone way more annoying.
9:24 i believe the word you were looking for is “happy go-lucky”
I remember someone said that the animation here like in Ren and Stimpy, now I understand, it does. Just click at this time code 2:30
I will say it is established in at least one other episode that garry doesn't like squidward and will attack him. The one where squidward gets stuck in cement
Honestly, I’m surprised that squidward has been through so much but hasn’t done anything about it, like get a therapist or put a restraining order against everyone who treats him like an ass
Mr Krabs, you keep the Secret Formula in a bottle. I would say that it's reasonable for highly paid showrunners to at least watch previous episodes.
People will make fun of me for watching it in the first place but this exact torture is why i can't watch annoying orange anymore. Because if any you don't know, there is a character called pear that is exactly pinpoint squidward and he gets tortured EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Heck, it might even be worse because Squidward atleast back then did something to make it justified. Pear never deserved any torture at all.
He got his birthday present destroyed, got embrassed in front of his crush/best friend causing her to never show up again and for the physical torture he gets squashed, ripped, set on fire and if i listed everything he got physically tortured by it would be long.
Delete this before anyone else sees that you actually admitted you watched that.
The reason to pass that show.... should be because YOU GREW THE FUCK UP..... unless you're under the age of 5, that show should not be entertaining you in anyway.
Get some help(you aren't the only commenter in this videos threads that needs to "get helo".... I'm notiv8ng a LOT of crossover between "watches modern SpongeBob past assumed age of 12" and "genuinely needs to seek out therapy of some form".
Delete this before anyone else sees that you actually admitted you watched that.
The reason to pass that show.... should be because YOU GREW THE FUCK UP..... unless you're under the age of 5, that show should not be entertaining you in anyway.
Get some help(you aren't the only commenter in this videos threads that needs to "get helo".... I'm notiv8ng a LOT of crossover between "watches modern SpongeBob past assumed age of 12" and "genuinely needs to seek out therapy of some form".
yeah but that was basically Pear’s purpose since the first video so I can’t really feel bad for him anymore
@shaansingh6048 Back then, pear got more spotlight with multiple episodes showing he can be cool. Nowadays, that doesn't happen and restating squidward was a jerk back then making it justified. Pear has done literally nothing wrong.
Random, but do you find Annoying Orange and Dick Figures similar?