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Trevor I like this show very much much I watch it almost every week because it is the only show in Zimbabwe that hosts these high profiles. this is our only chance to interact with them and have the questions in everyone’s minds put on the table. What I dislike is your leniency. You sometimes let these guests whitewash their history and not take accountability. I’m not talking about Father Mukonori in this instance. The interview with Olivia Muchena is a good example as well the one with Saviour Kasukuwere, you let Mucheba parade as if she was a bystander when she was part of the cabinet. You did not ask her on her part in political violence especially in her own constituency. Sometimes I feel like you dont press hard and you let interviewees control the narrative. You’re the host, put down your anchor
Sadly, father did not speak honestly concerning current issues. It buffles me that we all know the systems which ZANU PF has put in place. State institutions belong to a political part, we all know this. Why in the world is it not being talked about. The Zim case is a sad one. We will continue to pray to God almighty, Jehovah is his name.
Thanks a lot for your observation it’s so sad that most of the comments are here praising this man. Honestly these old man are so conservative to their post independence ideologies and cannot change at any point in time. Defending ZANU PF is sad. With the way the election results were doctored it doesn’t take much to realize it
I also felt it was an underwhelming interview. He dodged commenting on current issues and he is clearly either out of touch with reality or he deliberately covered his comrades
It’s a shame,that this guy is being praised ,whereas he has just indirectly fueled a zanu pf propaganda instrument.It’s a pity he honestly denies that the election can’t be stolen ,as if he is not aware of the Zanu pf instruments and institutions that are used to advance the regime”s agenda in the discourse of the election..
Father Mukonori pindurai mibvunzo yamabvunzwai not just running away be on point and tell the truth you are part of the authors for the note of Priest saying Lord may you hear the crying of the oppressed where are we now
He is just evasive and lacks knowledge haana njere kana uyu, hanzi he mediated negotiations between Tsvangirai and prime minister Mugabe. He doesn't know Mugabe was president
I was also surprised . He is so shallow but keeps boasting about being trained by UN . He didn’t say anything of substance to the interview except misinformation . He doesn’t even know that the elections were rigged , where in this earth does he live? I think he is overrated maybe for past performances that we don’t know. For someone who has been exposed to public fora for so long he speaks so slow , taking time to ponder the next word such that it’s frustrating and painful to listen to him because you think faster than he talks . Maybe next time he must consider doing interviews in his mother language . I didn’t hear any wisdom here but someone who is perpetuating ZANU PF propaganda . I think he was given a farm.
I really looked forward to enjoying the conversation with the church man but he did not quite articulate the facts well and says the election cannot be stolen he should explain what it is when people cannot vote because there is no voting material and people are being forced to vote for a particular party in the Rural areas
what he meant by saying elections can't be stolen he mean if the everything is being done transparent in a free environment, mind you the elections that he experienced this was being monitored by UN
Even for those who voted, if a party is to win it should just win. Maybe the people who couldn't vote were zanu's votes, who knows? If one comes to the wrong polling station or something, they can't be allowed to vote obviously. You're behaving like typical Zimbabweans! What has the priest's faith has to do with this discussion?
@mee4084 HE is also afraid he chose to criticise Ccc and chamisa that they continue to reject but he knows zanu is notbstraight the sadc report is there why didn't he talk about that what about zbc not allowing ccc on tv what about faz what about ballot delay in their strong hold . He knows the danger so ge decided to attack the doftbsidebhe is part of tie problem
MR MUKONORI YOU ARE NOT TRUE TO YOURSELF YOU CHOSE NOT TO REALLY THE TRUETH YOU ARE ALSO AFRAID YOU KNOW ZANU PF IS KILLING MACHINE SO YOU OPT TO GO FOR SOFTER TARGET CCC AND CHAMISA. YOU PRETEND AS IF YOU DONT KNOW THE WAY ZANU RUN ELECTIONS IN ZIMBABWE. . 2008 PEOOLE WERE KILLED YET YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY PEOPPE ALWAYS REJECT THE RESULTS YOU ARE PART OF THE SAME OLD PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT WAR AS IF WE MUST NOT QUESTION YOUR SHORTCOMINGS IM AICK AND TIRED OF YOY LOT. ZEC IS CAPTURED THE JUDICIARY THE ARMY THE POLICE . YOU KNOW ZANU IS MESSING UP. WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT SADC REPORT ZBC REFUSAL TO AIR CCC AND FAVOURS ZANU PF. BANNED RALLIES THE GUY KILLED IN GLEN NORAH WHAT KIND OF A PRIEST ARE YOU WENA. WHAT ABOUT FAZ AND BALLOT PAPER DELAY IN STRONG HOLD OF CCC. SO YOU WANT THEM TO JUST KABIRA SHIT LIKE THAT. WHEN WE DISREPECT YOU OLD PEOPLE YOU THEN SAY WE ARE COWARDS ITS TOXIC POLITICS YET YOU ARE THE ONES NOT BEING TRUETHFUL HERE. IF YOU ARE AFRAID DONT APOEAR ON SUCH PLATFORM AND WAWATA NONSENSE MHANI. A MAN OF GOD LIKE YOU MUST BE RIGHTEOUS IM SO DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU FATHER . TREVOR YOU WERE KIND OF AFRAID TO ASK HARD HITTING QUESTIONS WHY DIDNT YOU ASK HIM ABOUT SADC REPORT BALLOT DELAY VOTE BUYING FAZ AND THE SHINANIGANS MONKEY TRICKS ZANU DID DURING CAMPAIGNS . I KNOW YOU ARE AFRAID ALSO ITS A MILITARY GVT YOU KNOW ED IS a killer But st least don't blame chamisa and ccc when you know the truth shame on you
Trevor did not ask the right questions he was lenient with him we want to know why some people in urban areas did not vote and how come he says elections were free fair and credible
Trevor. Your editing of this video is symbolic of why we (the nation) are in the situation we are in. You edited out Father Mukonori's narration on the death on Tongogara. You glibbly discussed Ghukurahundi. At what point are we as people stop being participants in the cover up.
If we had a man like this Father being involved in negotiations,then we have a big problem.He can’t even explain much and he is very slow.He is the type of man who wants to be heard instead of hearing the problems.His training by the United Nations provides nothing of substance to Zimbabwe and we all know that that organisation does not care about Africa,so to me, what he was saying makes not relevance to Zimbabwe’s problems.Those two lawyers he is talking about are the exact example of people who want to be heard and win but not look at the problems faced in Zimbabwe by Zimbabweans.
He lacks indepth analysis in his answers about election issues, he might be a good moderator on bringing disagreeing parties to the table but he is not good at giving answers with substance
I agree he was too slow to answer as if he is thinking deeply only to say stupid statements, what crooked man. I don't think he is a good arbiter I think he just hummers one side to submission during arbitration.
Trevor said Chamisa anoramba. Chamisa might have good reasons coz Fidelis Mukonori has already showed his cards so I doubt father will be of any help to our situation.
Thank you brother Trevor Ncube for your extremely informative and insightful conversations. We thank God for Father Fidelis Mukonori, our link from the past to the future. Am going to grab all his books. We yearn for peace in our land.
I think you're mistaken father Mukonori is not afraid to speak but as a Catholic priest he can't discuss things he talks to people in private. That's kind of how it works. This is probably why he is also the best negotiator. Everyone can have an open conversation with him without fearing the news headlines tomorrow.
Great job Trevor !! Father Mukonori has a lot to share. Will check out his book. He is obviously a moving encyclopedia of Zimbabwean history and diplomacy.
He used his sense of humour to articulate The Word. He was amazing when he visited our parish. The whole church would be in stitches laughing. I vividly remember, yet it was in the 80s/90s
@@letthemshine3015 the fact is, if you like CCC then you didn't enjoy listening to him especially when he talks about the cccc polling agents witnessing the counting of the vote and signing the v11. But on the contrary if you support ZANU this video is a breath of fresh air. A few weeks ago ZANUs who watched Ibbo Mandaza and Arthur Mutambara felt they lied and sensationalised a lot. It just depends on who you support and you can't make everyone agree with your view
@mampofu1052 It doesn't go that far to compare inbo or whoever you danm know he was nit truerhful he knows zanu can do him. He knows zec is zanu pf zbc army everything is zanu he knows deliberate ballot delay he knows faz was there to intimidate people but he can't say it vanomu ita inyowani but he must not then blame opposition kuti do they have to reject every election hell yes because we not fools to agree to sham elections. Was he alive or in coma in 2098 when people had their limps chopped and 300 plus killed what can he say about that? He chose soft target ccc to attach because he knows hapana zvaano itwa he us fake Man of cloth if you ask me devil in sheep skin
Trevor you could be a prophet... Just this Thursday I was talking to someone wishing you brought Fr Fidelis Mukonori. He was my priest @ Chishawasha in 2011. I just feel he has a lot to really talk about. The man has information. I literally am waiting for this! 33hrs waiting could kill me hahaha
Baba Mukonori: thank you for your way of seeing the situation in Zimbabwe. Ndinotenda nekumira pachokwadi panyaya dze nyike yedu se mutumwa waMwari pasina kutya kana kuda kufadza vatungamiri ne nhema zvatioona nekunzwa vamwe vemasvondo vachiita. Dai Mwari vakuchèngetai mabatsira,neuchenjeri hwa Mwari huri mamuri kubatsira vatungamiri venyika ino kuti vave nekusazvifunga panyaya dzehutongi nenyaya dzemagariro akanaka eruzhinji rwezvizvarwa zvenyika ino. True Zimbabwe has everything that is needed kuti upenyu hwe vana vayo vese vagare zvakanaka, asi kumwe kushaya hany'a chaiko kwadzorera nyika kumashure. Ndinokutendai Baba: muitirwe zvakanaka na Mwari.
Thanks Fr Fidelis for your input, that as it may, some issues were not conclusively dealt with. I sensed some hestancy in tackling some issues raised by Trevor, perhaps that's the way of being a man in the middle or was that diplomacy. There is however some evidence in his delivery that he doesn't want to wound either side in disputation. My take on the issue under discussion. Zim needs peace, Zimbos need peace wherever they are moreso at home than elsewhere. My father used to say home is home though never been so homely. I say home should be homely to all offspring, parents have a duty to welcome all. Thanks Fr, thank you Trevor. You are building bridges, healing souls and inviting people to self- introspection. Let's create a national indaba and move on as a people
1. Hehehehe, you summarised best 2. Havasi vanhu vedu ava, ma fakes aana Trevor ava all staging it. It’s their bottom line - Trevor admitted in conversation with Ibo, that signing the petition doesn’t affect his bottom line. I think he meant it.
Yes elections cannot be stolen Fr under the Right conditions and when the constitution is being respected.. In our case we have a captured judiciary a captured uniformed force , and a captured electoral body. Trevor you should have asked him this.. Should the opposition have representatives also at zec, police, army etc?
Maybe it's me who was not paying proper attention. I didn't hear elaborate and conclusive answers from the Father for questions asked. Maybe there was no enough time, maybe language. I wanted to hear more about what he knows about these issues, maybe one at a time.
@@mee4084 maybe I expected more to the person so close to the action, who mediates. Wanted details and specifics. For me, it was a missed opportunity to learn, as I haven't learnt anything new
I think he is trying to remain neutral but some things have to be said as they are unfortunately. He focused on what he wanted to say not really answering Trevor’s questions.
Good interview. Should have allowed him to finish the Tongogara story. That was the most informative version ever told and I guess we will never know now...
Because it's irrelevant. Did you ever listen to SADC observers missions before 2023? No somehow now opposition believes SADC observers are undisputable hahahaha
A good conversation with potential for a framework for a dialogue between ED Zanu PF & Chamisa CCC. Serious dialogue, not just playing to the gallery of youtubers and western donors. Trevor's leanings to CCC were wisely rebutted by Father Mukonori.
- Confusion between when Mugabe was prime minister versus president. - Front line states even when South Africa was independent of white minority rule? - 2008 issues were what has ZANU PF to offer versus what had MDC to offer not that ZANU PF had killed so many to win the re-run? - He trained Morgan as a trade unionist leader. - Trained with UN. - He doesn’t wear a priestly collar is that normal or he was excommunicated? - He’s not happy opposition getting funding from external sources. Is he aware that local funders of opposition are targeted by ZANU PF? - Toyi toyi on the streets is demos handitika? I’m happy to hear Trevor admitting that innocent people get killed, in zoom meeting of the 21st Trevor was suggesting demos. - I’m shocked father justifies one side stealing elections as long as the other side is not watching. He doesn’t consider or is oblivious that in Zimbabwe people are scared (for their lives for very good reasons) to represent, observe or testify for opposition - CCC. - What’s a state craft issue? What’s being a cog in the wheels of the state? Was he just a spectator in the plot “coup” that was playing out? If that’s what he meant there, i agree. Otherwise, father has challenges in expressing himself well - replaying video at x 1.5 times he’s very slow. - I could be wrong but I am having doubts on the integrity of this man of God. - He sounds fake and I doubt anything good comes out of this man. I really wish if I am wrong.
Being @ Chishawasha before he came was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life and many students would agree. I was young but everyone felt something had changed as soon as he arrived and he was the right man. Everyone loved him.
This country is blessed to have a man like Fr Fidelis Mukonori , may God keeps you for us father , you have a lot of work to do concerning our motherland Zimbabwe
His level of diplomacy while appreciated is also evidentiary of he and his generation have let down Zimbabwe. It is a greater sin to know what to do and not do it. He tells us the errors in the process but does not tell the perpetrator that he is wrong. His philosophical approach sounds full of wisdom but his actions show him to have been amicable to ZANU because of his see no evil, hear no evil approach.
Father mentioned that we need to regulate our leaders, how do we regulate them when they themselves violate the laws they put ? there's gross abuse of law in Zimbabwe
His masses were full of laughter compared to the dread students felt of both attending and serving mass before him. Serving his masses was one of my great honours.
A lot of the key questions put across to him were left hanging. If l compare the previous Gono and Makoni interviews on the brutal political entanglements, Father Fidelis fell short on the detail in his responses. The Tongogara mystery was disappointingly scratched on the surface. He seemed to portray the picture that Mugabe or anyone in the Zanla camp was not involved in the shocking death of Tongogara. Very little or zero detail on the post-war feuds that were stirred up by Mugabe were revealed. The good part that he highlighted on, was to suggest the idea of having the two leaders in one room.
Even if Tongogara had died in an accident it would will be difficult for many to believe it was an accident. I felt he was sanitising the death of Tongogara as an accident nothing more. He was challenged on Gukurahundi which happened soon after independence and he didn’t want to expose/elaborate Mugabe’s evil. I won’t be surprised if he is and has always been a politician in priestly robes.
Thank you Trevor ,i must say this is only one conversation so touching listening and i didnt want breaks you were taking bcoz i was listening attentively word by word bcoz the questions was about unsolved zimbawe key issues kkkkkk i wanted the convasation flow without taking a break. well, father Fedilis has seen it all bcoz he was boots on the ground and friendship with almost all our key Zimbabwe founding heros and fathers. I cant wait to get my copy of that book. So the other party that was getting secret funding from EU during GNU government i can say the purpose was to make things work for govenment under sanctions so that people will think things are working bcoz that other party inorder to decampaign the other party nxaaa what a dirty game.
Father Mukonori is an honesty man of God who tells the truth and shames the devil.Zanupf is a true revolutionary party Africa has ever produced.The problem is a sellout party called mdc now ccc(Rhodesia front).This party which was created by commercial farmers who used their slave workers to fake as a Zimbabweans born political party deceiving the world.The owners of the party are Rhodesians who did not want black rule and democracy being funded by EU and America to remove Zanupf from power so as to reverse land reform program.Zanupf has no problem on its rule but illegal sanctions imposed by America and EU are the biggest predicament in Zimbabawe.The fake opposition is to be blamed for all this economic problems not Zanupf.
Father story in Mozambique with tongogara, chitepo stories, ndaningi sithole, Mugabe, Lancaster treaty etc. Father knows most of information. I think. I agree with most of his narrations but some issues he is subtle I missed him and I have suspicion on certain issues like having tongagara embalmed with the enemy, why driven by a Mozambique driver,. Just thinking. Anyway the truth will come out. Thanks the story was informative but leaves some stories and issues hanging
Me too . I’m surprised at all those who are saying it was a wonderful interview. The interviewee scored 0/10. I don’t even know why he was invited. He said the lawyer is disputing the election , point of correction, the lawyer and the majority of the Zim population are disputing the election. It’s not about one person. He seems to have a low opinion of 1: the leader of the opposition , which is wrong for a priest to do
Saka Zimbabwe haina kwairikuenda nekurasika kwakadai kwevanhu panyaya dzekutenda. Roman Catholic has been there in Zim since Independence and it is a church of choice for mazidhara eZanu. How can you think this is a man of God under those circumstances.
Trevor it's so so painful what you're are discussing with The man of God I'm an old man and MY Grand children have never seen peace since Indipendence My heart is broken broken
Thanks @InConversationwithTrevor for this high profile interview but then my concern is why do you cut your interviewees in the midst of explanation of some points. Your are not letting them finish their points
Father Mukonori has much to say but avoided almost all sensitive issues. He knows what will happen to him and is also afraid. I give this interview 1/10. Not much out of it. Trevor should also have asked sensitive questions to this Father.
Wonderful interview indeed. Will the good Father bring Mr Mnangagwa and Adv Chamisa together for the solution of the current stalemate in Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe have suffered enough.
Such a quality conversation! It is my prayer the learned lawyers in question meet and talk and father brokering !. Zimbabwe will never be the same again.
Trevor can you ask father why the 2008 GNU didn’t level elections ground consistently and electro laws. Why it’s still an issue in Year 2923. My name is George Ndoro
From his views, opinions and analysis of Zimbabwean event pre-independent to post 23 August 2023 elections. What is his ACTION plan to converge discourse of the political adjunct to rescue the electorate? @InConversationwithTrevor you are actively working for the best.
Fr Mukonori is a well educated Jesuit and very senior for the matter so with due respect please answer the questions truthfully baba vozve mweya and help the country go forward please
Father Mukonori is good. I respect the man and enjoyed reading his book. Ngavarambe vachiita zvehistory vachitaura zvemagamba akafa. his view on the current politics is off side.
At times you were too intrusive Trevor and changing the trend of Father's thoughts. If you had allowed him, gems could have come out. Anyway, it was good!
These madala in now old he nolonger speak sense, we tired of war rhetotics, if it may be we want our war also so that we can learn on our own we cant suffer forever in the name of fear
I actually wanted to hear more concerning the death of J Tongogara, Father Fidelis is indeed a national treasure and he should be in interviews to unpack a lot of questions without answers coz it seems he is a neutral man who has been on the ground from liberation struggle.
A lot has been missed out . He must come back.. and he must resolve Zimbabwe issued . Show him this message. ..he must solve Zimbabwe issues once and for all
If we are waiting for someone like him to resolve our issues , then we are doomed . He has absolutely nothing to offer , this man . He is a stooge holding a Bible , that is if he even knows and practises the teachings of the Bible.
Very disappointed at the level of shallowness demonstrated by someone heaped with so much praise at the beginning by Trevor. The suggestion of the Roman catholic way of locking the two lawyers in the same room until they find a solution is not only absurd with regards to it's practical implementation, but a flight from reality by the clergy man. If it were practically possible, he could have used it on Tsvangirai and Mugabe. And that he doesn't believe elections are stolen when there was glaring voter suppression in Harare, Bulawayo, and Manicaland, opposition strongholds, which, even a blind man could see, resulting in voting spilling into the second day for the first time in our history, is mind boggling, to say the least. Whilst he harps and trumpets about his training by UN in Mozambique and SouthAfrica, it scantily justifies his warped notion that current regime cannot steal elections. He only stops and counting of votes, but what about the manipulation of the spread sheet when punching in figures, a high, if not unbelievable number of assisted voters in the countryside as well as biased state media reporting. Why is he mute on such critical issues? Am left with none other than the conclusion that he supports the status quo, for one reason or the other, best known to himself. Even though he makes reference to thousands dying in the liberation struggle, 'more than 70 000 people', his failure to articulate a practical and reasonable solution to the current electoral dispute and conundrum, left me very disappointed, to say the least. The attempt to philosophise something that is as clear as a brazen, shambolic, electoral theft, that forms the genesis of the current crisis, which crisis is not new, a crisis which is well documented since the country's independence, is mind-boggling. While one can't run away from the clergy man's senility, hence lack of comprehension of current issues, his soft spot for the current regime in light of how he was declared winner through dubious and unverifiable results by ZEC, makes me suspect he is an accomplice in the heist, who knows where his bread is buttered and doesn't want to question the current status quo, for fear of losing a place at the political dinner high table. And l also blame Trevor for not asking hard hitting questions, preferring the spiritual side rather than the practical and physical. For instance, l would have expected him to question the practicality of locking the two in one room, as well as the chaotic nature of the last elections and how his training by UN was relevant visavis the sophisticated methods methods used by Zanu pf when rigging elections.
Interesting to see the clearly Father Mukonori and Trevor don't share the same views and they argued in a very professional way. Trevor really tried to get the old Padre to go into a corner but the Father Mukonori was very intellectual in his responses and refused to be moved into corners and sensation.
Hi Trevor, Did you intentionally cut the Father when he wanted to give Josiah Tungamirayi's version of Tongogara's accident? When you came back from the break, then you started asking something else.
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Why is it father did not give us his book recommendations
We should not allow our leaders to play with our lives. 😊😅
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Trevor I like this show very much much I watch it almost every week because it is the only show in Zimbabwe that hosts these high profiles. this is our only chance to interact with them and have the questions in everyone’s minds put on the table. What I dislike is your leniency. You sometimes let these guests whitewash their history and not take accountability. I’m not talking about Father Mukonori in this instance. The interview with Olivia Muchena is a good example as well the one with Saviour Kasukuwere, you let Mucheba parade as if she was a bystander when she was part of the cabinet. You did not ask her on her part in political violence especially in her own constituency. Sometimes I feel like you dont press hard and you let interviewees control the narrative. You’re the host, put down your anchor
Sadly, father did not speak honestly concerning current issues. It buffles me that we all know the systems which ZANU PF has put in place. State institutions belong to a political part, we all know this. Why in the world is it not being talked about. The Zim case is a sad one. We will continue to pray to God almighty, Jehovah is his name.
Thanks a lot for your observation it’s so sad that most of the comments are here praising this man. Honestly these old man are so conservative to their post independence ideologies and cannot change at any point in time. Defending ZANU PF is sad.
With the way the election results were doctored it doesn’t take much to realize it
I agree with you, l think he was just indirectly defending Zanu and he avoided direct responses to Trevor’s questions
they are judging him as a priest but i was disappointed he is a bit old and tired to current issues
I also felt it was an underwhelming interview. He dodged commenting on current issues and he is clearly either out of touch with reality or he deliberately covered his comrades
It’s a shame,that this guy is being praised ,whereas he has just indirectly fueled a zanu pf propaganda instrument.It’s a pity he honestly denies that the election can’t be stolen ,as if he is not aware of the Zanu pf instruments and institutions that are used to advance the regime”s agenda in the discourse of the election..
Trevor, you gave him too much respect and missed the ball.
Father Mukonori pindurai mibvunzo yamabvunzwai not just running away be on point and tell the truth you are part of the authors for the note of Priest saying Lord may you hear the crying of the oppressed where are we now
Ndiye shuwa akanyora ma book ayo ere? I hope is not full of ZANU PF propaganda.
He is just evasive and lacks knowledge haana njere kana uyu, hanzi he mediated negotiations between Tsvangirai and prime minister Mugabe. He doesn't know Mugabe was president
I was also surprised . He is so shallow but keeps boasting about being trained by UN . He didn’t say anything of substance to the interview except misinformation . He doesn’t even know that the elections were rigged , where in this earth does he live? I think he is overrated maybe for past performances that we don’t know. For someone who has been exposed to public fora for so long he speaks so slow , taking time to ponder the next word such that it’s frustrating and painful to listen to him because you think faster than he talks . Maybe next time he must consider doing interviews in his mother language . I didn’t hear any wisdom here but someone who is perpetuating ZANU PF propaganda . I think he was given a farm.
Thank you Trevor for bringing my uncle to the show the man wth wisdom and courage proud to be your niece wafanaka
From what i hear from Father Mukonori,we going in circles,the flushing and crushing of opposition is persisting.
Trevor this is an interesting interview with Father Fidelis.Thanks for bringing us to speed with this part of history.
I think it’s important to publicly note that Fr. Mukonori is not speaking on behalf of the Catholic Church. He is speaking in his individual capacity.
I really looked forward to enjoying the conversation with the church man but he did not quite articulate the facts well and says the election cannot be stolen he should explain what it is when people cannot vote because there is no voting material and people are being forced to vote for a particular party in the Rural areas
what he meant by saying elections can't be stolen he mean if the everything is being done transparent in a free environment,
mind you the elections that he experienced this was being monitored by UN
Father is hiding something 😂😂
Father has exposed something about his own faith
@@samgiddsI agree with you . We all saw that . God has a way of exposing charlatans
Even for those who voted, if a party is to win it should just win. Maybe the people who couldn't vote were zanu's votes, who knows? If one comes to the wrong polling station or something, they can't be allowed to vote obviously. You're behaving like typical Zimbabweans! What has the priest's faith has to do with this discussion?
Unfortunately, i give this show a 2/10 for the simple reason that it overlooks the fundamental reason why elections are disputed; CONSTITUTIONALISM.
l think Fr Mukonori avoided giving direct responses, and he chose to say what he wanted to.
@mee4084 HE is also afraid he chose to criticise Ccc and chamisa that they continue to reject but he knows zanu is notbstraight the sadc report is there why didn't he talk about that what about zbc not allowing ccc on tv what about faz what about ballot delay in their strong hold . He knows the danger so ge decided to attack the doftbsidebhe is part of tie problem
MR MUKONORI YOU ARE NOT TRUE TO YOURSELF YOU CHOSE NOT TO REALLY THE TRUETH YOU ARE ALSO AFRAID YOU KNOW ZANU PF IS KILLING MACHINE SO YOU OPT TO GO FOR SOFTER TARGET CCC AND CHAMISA. YOU PRETEND AS IF YOU DONT KNOW THE WAY ZANU RUN ELECTIONS IN ZIMBABWE. . 2008 PEOOLE WERE KILLED YET YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY PEOPPE ALWAYS REJECT THE RESULTS YOU ARE PART OF THE SAME OLD PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT WAR AS IF WE MUST NOT QUESTION YOUR SHORTCOMINGS IM AICK AND TIRED OF YOY LOT. ZEC IS CAPTURED THE JUDICIARY THE ARMY THE POLICE . YOU KNOW ZANU IS MESSING UP. WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT SADC REPORT ZBC REFUSAL TO AIR CCC AND FAVOURS ZANU PF. BANNED RALLIES THE GUY KILLED IN GLEN NORAH WHAT KIND OF A PRIEST ARE YOU WENA. WHAT ABOUT FAZ AND BALLOT PAPER DELAY IN STRONG HOLD OF CCC. SO YOU WANT THEM TO JUST KABIRA SHIT LIKE THAT. WHEN WE DISREPECT YOU OLD PEOPLE YOU THEN SAY WE ARE COWARDS ITS TOXIC POLITICS YET YOU ARE THE ONES NOT BEING TRUETHFUL HERE. IF YOU ARE AFRAID DONT APOEAR ON SUCH PLATFORM AND WAWATA NONSENSE MHANI. A MAN OF GOD LIKE YOU MUST BE RIGHTEOUS IM SO DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU FATHER . TREVOR YOU WERE KIND OF AFRAID TO ASK HARD HITTING QUESTIONS WHY DIDNT YOU ASK HIM ABOUT SADC REPORT BALLOT DELAY VOTE BUYING FAZ AND THE SHINANIGANS MONKEY TRICKS ZANU DID DURING CAMPAIGNS . I KNOW YOU ARE AFRAID ALSO ITS A MILITARY GVT YOU KNOW ED IS a killer But st least don't blame chamisa and ccc when you know the truth shame on you
Trevor did not ask the right questions he was lenient with him we want to know why some people in urban areas did not vote and how come he says elections were free fair and credible
@@tevedzaimakumbei totally agree with you. I don't know why Trevor didn't really press him about zec, judicial and police capture.
Trevor. Your editing of this video is symbolic of why we (the nation) are in the situation we are in. You edited out Father Mukonori's narration on the death on Tongogara. You glibbly discussed Ghukurahundi. At what point are we as people stop being participants in the cover up.
Trevor you should allow us to suggest questions before you interview your guests. Just like what Dhara with the free talk sometimes on HSTV.
If we had a man like this Father being involved in negotiations,then we have a big problem.He can’t even explain much and he is very slow.He is the type of man who wants to be heard instead of hearing the problems.His training by the United Nations provides nothing of substance to Zimbabwe and we all know that that organisation does not care about Africa,so to me, what he was saying makes not relevance to Zimbabwe’s problems.Those two lawyers he is talking about are the exact example of people who want to be heard and win but not look at the problems faced in Zimbabwe by Zimbabweans.
He just provided the worst responses
Agree
He lacks indepth analysis in his answers about election issues, he might be a good moderator on bringing disagreeing parties to the table but he is not good at giving answers with substance
I agree he was too slow to answer as if he is thinking deeply only to say stupid statements, what crooked man. I don't think he is a good arbiter I think he just hummers one side to submission during arbitration.
He was actually part for the problem
And also Nelson Chamisa bring him on this amazing show
Chamisa and Trevor dont get on Trevor anoita se aka torerwa babe na Nero he hates him so much I dnt know why
Trevor said Chamisa anoramba. Chamisa might have good reasons coz Fidelis Mukonori has already showed his cards so I doubt father will be of any help to our situation.
Trevor hates Chamisa with passion,he suggests that Chamisa wants to continue the Zanupf machinations,
@@popochauke6324 Trevor I don’t trust him too much!!
Thank you brother Trevor Ncube for your extremely informative and insightful conversations. We thank God for Father Fidelis Mukonori, our link from the past to the future. Am going to grab all his books. We yearn for peace in our land.
We need Part 2 of this conversation. The good Father has a lot to tell us. He may have the keys to our freedom.
Forget rimwe gudo rinoda zanu iri
Agreed he has a lot to say, but I don't think this was the platform for all the history lessons
At this point in time we don’t need no history lessons , we need solutions
Very sad that our elders are scared to tell the truth we all know how our current leaders deal with critics 😭
How true. The bishop makes no mention of the completely flawed nature of the election. Maybe he’s got a farm or two.
I think you're mistaken father Mukonori is not afraid to speak but as a Catholic priest he can't discuss things he talks to people in private. That's kind of how it works. This is probably why he is also the best negotiator. Everyone can have an open conversation with him without fearing the news headlines tomorrow.
Great job Trevor !! Father Mukonori has a lot to share. Will check out his book. He is obviously a moving encyclopedia of Zimbabwean history and diplomacy.
Father, you are very elusive in your answer to the Question of the Election issue you are answering in circles
He used his sense of humour to articulate The Word. He was amazing when he visited our parish. The whole church would be in stitches laughing. I vividly remember, yet it was in the 80s/90s
But on this interview he was not truethful
@@letthemshine3015 the fact is, if you like CCC then you didn't enjoy listening to him especially when he talks about the cccc polling agents witnessing the counting of the vote and signing the v11.
But on the contrary if you support ZANU this video is a breath of fresh air.
A few weeks ago ZANUs who watched Ibbo Mandaza and Arthur Mutambara felt they lied and sensationalised a lot.
It just depends on who you support and you can't make everyone agree with your view
What word teaching false Catholicism these devils manifest..he should stick to politics and leave the gospel clear and far from him
@mampofu1052 It doesn't go that far to compare inbo or whoever you danm know he was nit truerhful he knows zanu can do him. He knows zec is zanu pf zbc army everything is zanu he knows deliberate ballot delay he knows faz was there to intimidate people but he can't say it vanomu ita inyowani but he must not then blame opposition kuti do they have to reject every election hell yes because we not fools to agree to sham elections. Was he alive or in coma in 2098 when people had their limps chopped and 300 plus killed what can he say about that? He chose soft target ccc to attach because he knows hapana zvaano itwa he us fake Man of cloth if you ask me devil in sheep skin
Trevor you are a treasure, your inquisitive mind is very insightful and honest
Sounds to me like Father does not know how elections are stolen.
I think he belongs to the other party
I guess he chose to be ignorant of facts
He knows. Remember Roman catholic is devil worshipping
Trevor you could be a prophet... Just this Thursday I was talking to someone wishing you brought Fr Fidelis Mukonori. He was my priest @ Chishawasha in 2011. I just feel he has a lot to really talk about. The man has information. I literally am waiting for this! 33hrs waiting could kill me hahaha
Father Fidelis Mukonori has a lot of wisdom, courage and secrets. God bless this fearless National Peacemaker
Ndeche Zanu PF icho.
In actual fact chtori chimu Lacoste chimudhara icho.
Baba Mukonori: thank you for your way of seeing the situation in Zimbabwe. Ndinotenda nekumira pachokwadi panyaya dze nyike yedu se mutumwa waMwari pasina kutya kana kuda kufadza vatungamiri ne nhema zvatioona nekunzwa vamwe vemasvondo vachiita.
Dai Mwari vakuchèngetai mabatsira,neuchenjeri hwa Mwari huri mamuri kubatsira vatungamiri venyika ino kuti vave nekusazvifunga panyaya dzehutongi nenyaya dzemagariro akanaka eruzhinji rwezvizvarwa zvenyika ino.
True Zimbabwe has everything that is needed kuti upenyu hwe vana vayo vese vagare zvakanaka, asi kumwe kushaya hany'a chaiko kwadzorera nyika kumashure.
Ndinokutendai Baba: muitirwe zvakanaka na Mwari.
It turned out to be not so much of my expectations and enthusiasm
How
Because, most likely he's of a different faith or denomination to Fr's. Typical of Zimbabweans!
Thank you @InConversationwithTrevor for bringing Fr Mukonori to the show. What an icon he is
Thanks Fr Fidelis for your input, that as it may, some issues were not conclusively dealt with. I sensed some hestancy in tackling some issues raised by Trevor, perhaps that's the way of being a man in the middle or was that diplomacy. There is however some evidence in his delivery that he doesn't want to wound either side in disputation.
My take on the issue under discussion. Zim needs peace, Zimbos need peace wherever they are moreso at home than elsewhere. My father used to say home is home though never been so homely. I say home should be homely to all offspring, parents have a duty to welcome all. Thanks Fr, thank you Trevor. You are building bridges, healing souls and inviting people to self- introspection. Let's create a national indaba and move on as a people
Trevor: How do you see the recent election?
Fr Mukonori: I once went to Moza
Zimbos: He is so full of wisdom
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This shows you kuti vanhu vedu vakadzungaira
1. Hehehehe, you summarised best
2. Havasi vanhu vedu ava, ma fakes aana Trevor ava all staging it. It’s their bottom line - Trevor admitted in conversation with Ibo, that signing the petition doesn’t affect his bottom line. I think he meant it.
He lost the relevance of the question there he might be an honourable priest bt pamubvunzo uyu varasika.
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Hahahaha ngaze ngahleka! Easily one of the worst conversations. Was so looking forward to it but disappointed
Lots of loose ends that were left hanging...! I give this conversation a 2/10.
I think it's because he was trying to cover a lot in hour so he gad to cut the Fr, who seemingly had a lot to share
Something tells me the Father is not coming clean on certain questions..
You can say that again
Certainly 100% correct
Yes elections cannot be stolen Fr under the Right conditions and when the constitution is being respected.. In our case we have a captured judiciary a captured uniformed force , and a captured electoral body.
Trevor you should have asked him this.. Should the opposition have representatives also at zec, police, army etc?
Surprisingly he skirted on asking the relevant questions
Maybe it's me who was not paying proper attention. I didn't hear elaborate and conclusive answers from the Father for questions asked. Maybe there was no enough time, maybe language.
I wanted to hear more about what he knows about these issues, maybe one at a time.
I also felt the same way. He avoided direct answers
@@mee4084 maybe I expected more to the person so close to the action, who mediates. Wanted details and specifics. For me, it was a missed opportunity to learn, as I haven't learnt anything new
I think he is trying to remain neutral but some things have to be said as they are unfortunately. He focused on what he wanted to say not really answering Trevor’s questions.
You are absolutely right. I think at this stage we need not only people that still talk of unity with killers.
Unity with killers as they continue killing? And will not expose them ever. Uumh.
Great conversation. What a Diplomat he is (Father Mukonori)..... and to Trevor - your content curation is out of this world.
Good show. However most of these prominent guys don't want to share some the best information we would like to hear.
Father has so much to tell us
"Intelligence is something we are born with.Thinking is a skill that must be learned"- Edward de Bono-
Critical thinking.
Travor please when are you going to bring the legendary Peter Ndlovu on the show?
Good interview. Should have allowed him to finish the Tongogara story. That was the most informative version ever told and I guess we will never know now...
Tongogara was killed by team mugabe. Josiah tungamirai and others knows it they were part of the gang
That’s an old story and we have got tired of hearing versions of it . We are interested in current issues
@@imath68 Absolutely but tell father to be truethful
I find it odd that Trevor never brought the issue of SEOM into the picture.
Because it's irrelevant. Did you ever listen to SADC observers missions before 2023? No somehow now opposition believes SADC observers are undisputable hahahaha
The good priest does understand estimate the chicanery of a person who wants power at all cost.
A lot has been left hanging. we could have been told a lot that we desire to know
I like the comment that both parties should be represented by Agents. The opposition cannot cannot field Agents due to victimization and fear....
He must come back and share more on Tongogara's death
Thank you father you are a true man send by God
Liar. Ndevehumombwe ava. Imbwa idzi
God doesn’t send such people. He is a man who bears false witness
A good conversation with potential for a framework for a dialogue between ED Zanu PF & Chamisa CCC. Serious dialogue, not just playing to the gallery of youtubers and western donors. Trevor's leanings to CCC were wisely rebutted by Father Mukonori.
Mukonori is way below average in comprehending anything let alone complex issues!
- Confusion between when Mugabe was prime minister versus president.
- Front line states even when South Africa was independent of white minority rule?
- 2008 issues were what has ZANU PF to offer versus what had MDC to offer not that ZANU PF had killed so many to win the re-run?
- He trained Morgan as a trade unionist leader.
- Trained with UN.
- He doesn’t wear a priestly collar is that normal or he was excommunicated?
- He’s not happy opposition getting funding from external sources. Is he aware that local funders of opposition are targeted by ZANU PF?
- Toyi toyi on the streets is demos handitika? I’m happy to hear Trevor admitting that innocent people get killed, in zoom meeting of the 21st Trevor was suggesting demos.
- I’m shocked father justifies one side stealing elections as long as the other side is not watching. He doesn’t consider or is oblivious that in Zimbabwe people are scared (for their lives for very good reasons) to represent, observe or testify for opposition - CCC.
- What’s a state craft issue? What’s being a cog in the wheels of the state? Was he just a spectator in the plot “coup” that was playing out? If that’s what he meant there, i agree. Otherwise, father has challenges in expressing himself well - replaying video at x 1.5 times he’s very slow.
- I could be wrong but I am having doubts on the integrity of this man of God.
- He sounds fake and I doubt anything good comes out of this man. I really wish if I am wrong.
Being @ Chishawasha before he came was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life and many students would agree. I was young but everyone felt something had changed as soon as he arrived and he was the right man. Everyone loved him.
This country is blessed to have a man like Fr Fidelis Mukonori , may God keeps you for us father , you have a lot of work to do concerning our motherland Zimbabwe
Best Interview ever
His level of diplomacy while appreciated is also evidentiary of he and his generation have let down Zimbabwe. It is a greater sin to know what to do and not do it.
He tells us the errors in the process but does not tell the perpetrator that he is wrong.
His philosophical approach sounds full of wisdom but his actions show him to have been amicable to ZANU because of his see no evil, hear no evil approach.
Father mentioned that we need to regulate our leaders, how do we regulate them when they themselves violate the laws they put ? there's gross abuse of law in Zimbabwe
Interesting conversation and good points raised there👏
Which good points if I may ask 😂😂😂😂
His masses were full of laughter compared to the dread students felt of both attending and serving mass before him. Serving his masses was one of my great honours.
A lot of the key questions put across to him were left hanging. If l compare the previous Gono and Makoni interviews on the brutal political entanglements, Father Fidelis fell short on the detail in his responses. The Tongogara mystery was disappointingly scratched on the surface. He seemed to portray the picture that Mugabe or anyone in the Zanla camp was not involved in the shocking death of Tongogara. Very little or zero detail on the post-war feuds that were stirred up by Mugabe were revealed. The good part that he highlighted on, was to suggest the idea of having the two leaders in one room.
He just provided the worst responses
Even if Tongogara had died in an accident it would will be difficult for many to believe it was an accident.
I felt he was sanitising the death of Tongogara as an accident nothing more. He was challenged on Gukurahundi which happened soon after independence and he didn’t want to expose/elaborate Mugabe’s evil. I won’t be surprised if he is and has always been a politician in priestly robes.
Haaa Father could have done better really, perhaps he took an oath to secrecy in such peace brokering initiatives. But expected more from him
Thank you Trevor ,i must say this is only one conversation so touching listening and i didnt want breaks you were taking bcoz i was listening attentively word by word bcoz the questions was about unsolved zimbawe key issues kkkkkk i wanted the convasation flow without taking a break. well, father Fedilis has seen it all bcoz he was boots on the ground and friendship with almost all our key Zimbabwe founding heros and fathers. I cant wait to get my copy of that book.
So the other party that was getting secret funding from EU during GNU government i can say the purpose was to make things work for govenment under sanctions so that people will think things are working bcoz that other party inorder to decampaign the other party nxaaa what a dirty game.
Father failed to disguise that he is a ZANU PF politician “faking as priest” delving into EU funding of opposition. Surely God was in it to expose him
Father Mukonori is an honesty man of God who tells the truth and shames the devil.Zanupf is a true revolutionary party Africa has ever produced.The problem is a sellout party called mdc now ccc(Rhodesia front).This party which was created by commercial farmers who used their slave workers to fake as a Zimbabweans born political party deceiving the world.The owners of the party are Rhodesians who did not want black rule and democracy being funded by EU and America to remove Zanupf from power so as to reverse land reform program.Zanupf has no problem on its rule but illegal sanctions imposed by America and EU are the biggest predicament in Zimbabawe.The fake opposition is to be blamed for all this economic problems not Zanupf.
Father story in Mozambique with tongogara, chitepo stories, ndaningi sithole, Mugabe, Lancaster treaty etc. Father knows most of information. I think. I agree with most of his narrations but some issues he is subtle I missed him and I have suspicion on certain issues like having tongagara embalmed with the enemy, why driven by a Mozambique driver,. Just thinking. Anyway the truth will come out.
Thanks the story was informative but leaves some stories and issues hanging
He knows evil deeds done by Sithole’s men and will keep it a secret to his grave.
Father is one of those kinds of people that ZANU PF loves.
This man is a loving man he made our days @ Chishawasha the best... He came to Chishawasha when he was needed the most.
For a man who knows so much....he does share little. Not really happy with the way he doesnt divulge much.
Very sincere brother thanks.
I hope I'm the only one who didn't understand a single response by father mukonori
Me too . I’m surprised at all those who are saying it was a wonderful interview. The interviewee scored 0/10. I don’t even know why he was invited. He said the lawyer is disputing the election , point of correction, the lawyer and the majority of the Zim population are disputing the election. It’s not about one person. He seems to have a low opinion of 1: the leader of the opposition , which is wrong for a priest to do
Saka Zimbabwe haina kwairikuenda nekurasika kwakadai kwevanhu panyaya dzekutenda. Roman Catholic has been there in Zim since Independence and it is a church of choice for mazidhara eZanu. How can you think this is a man of God under those circumstances.
However I differ with the blame game of hiding behind sanctions. The worst sanction is refusing to use common sense.
Trevor it's so so painful what you're are discussing with The man of God I'm an old man and MY Grand children have never seen peace since Indipendence My heart is broken broken
Are you saying there is no peace in Zimbabwe?What a bunch of nonsense.
@@kumbiektw is there peace??
Thanks @InConversationwithTrevor for this high profile interview but then my concern is why do you cut your interviewees in the midst of explanation of some points. Your are not letting them finish their points
i was disappointed he actaully said nothing,serve for being too philosophical
Peace Lover Father Mukonori❤❤
Father Mukonori has much to say but avoided almost all sensitive issues. He knows what will happen to him and is also afraid. I give this interview 1/10. Not much out of it. Trevor should also have asked sensitive questions to this Father.
Wonderful interview indeed. Will the good Father bring Mr Mnangagwa and Adv Chamisa together for the solution of the current stalemate in Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe have suffered enough.
Even if Mnangagwa will have Chamisa killed, he will keep his mouth shut. No wonder why ZANU PF trust this man of God.
Thank you @Trevor for such a powerful interview ❤
Eish ! Powerful ?🙆🏻♀️
Such a quality conversation! It is my prayer the learned lawyers in question meet and talk and father brokering !. Zimbabwe will never be the same again.
Trevor can you ask father why the 2008 GNU didn’t level elections ground consistently and electro laws. Why it’s still an issue in Year 2923. My name is George Ndoro
From his views, opinions and analysis of Zimbabwean event pre-independent to post 23 August 2023 elections. What is his ACTION plan to converge discourse of the political adjunct to rescue the electorate? @InConversationwithTrevor you are actively working for the best.
This conversation didnt reveal the depth which it was supposed to Father has alot which he could have articulated
I agree with you 100%.... my sentiments exactly...
wise words
Fr Mukonori is a well educated Jesuit and very senior for the matter so with due respect please answer the questions truthfully baba vozve mweya and help the country go forward please
Interesting discussion
Best interview
This needed 2hrs Trevor
Father Mukonori is good. I respect the man and enjoyed reading his book. Ngavarambe vachiita zvehistory vachitaura zvemagamba akafa. his view on the current politics is off side.
Probably one of the worst disapointing programe, no substance , he was not answering questions, l did expect a lot from this man , but bit of empty
He just provided the worst responses
At times you were too intrusive Trevor and changing the trend of Father's thoughts. If you had allowed him, gems could have come out. Anyway, it was good!
Brilliant quality conversation Trevor and brother Fidelis. Thank you so much.
Mukonorì doesn't çonvince me much on this session. He doesn't look confident to elaborate on issues
Indeed he been the man in the middle through out Deno vana Mutendi vadzidzawo one or two things from him vawedzerawo on their capabilities
How is the CCC causing people to suffer Trevor?
Very different from Mono interview Trevor was asking great questions but very shallow responses from baba ava
We need NTA & such personalities lead us into a free, fair & credible undisputed elections
Man in the middle.....can 1 get the book in SA?? Great content Mr Ncube as always 🙏🙏
These madala in now old he nolonger speak sense, we tired of war rhetotics, if it may be we want our war also so that we can learn on our own we cant suffer forever in the name of fear
I actually wanted to hear more concerning the death of J Tongogara, Father Fidelis is indeed a national treasure and he should be in interviews to unpack a lot of questions without answers coz it seems he is a neutral man who has been on the ground from liberation struggle.
A lot has been missed out . He must come back.. and he must resolve Zimbabwe issued . Show him this message. ..he must solve Zimbabwe issues once and for all
I don’t have any faith he can, nor faith that he ever did. I seriously hope I’m wrong coz we need solutions
If we are waiting for someone like him to resolve our issues , then we are doomed . He has absolutely nothing to offer , this man . He is a stooge holding a Bible , that is if he even knows and practises the teachings of the Bible.
Very disappointed at the level of shallowness demonstrated by someone heaped with so much praise at the beginning by Trevor. The suggestion of the Roman catholic way of locking the two lawyers in the same room until they find a solution is not only absurd with regards to it's practical implementation, but a flight from reality by the clergy man. If it were practically possible, he could have used it on Tsvangirai and Mugabe. And that he doesn't believe elections are stolen when there was glaring voter suppression in Harare, Bulawayo, and Manicaland, opposition strongholds, which, even a blind man could see, resulting in voting spilling into the second day for the first time in our history, is mind boggling, to say the least. Whilst he harps and trumpets about his training by UN in Mozambique and SouthAfrica, it scantily justifies his warped notion that current regime cannot steal elections. He only stops and counting of votes, but what about the manipulation of the spread sheet when punching in figures, a high, if not unbelievable number of assisted voters in the countryside as well as biased state media reporting. Why is he mute on such critical issues? Am left with none other than the conclusion that he supports the status quo, for one reason or the other, best known to himself. Even though he makes reference to thousands dying in the liberation struggle, 'more than 70 000 people', his failure to articulate a practical and reasonable solution to the current electoral dispute and conundrum, left me very disappointed, to say the least. The attempt to philosophise something that is as clear as a brazen, shambolic, electoral theft, that forms the genesis of the current crisis, which crisis is not new, a crisis which is well documented since the country's independence, is mind-boggling. While one can't run away from the clergy man's senility, hence lack of comprehension of current issues, his soft spot for the current regime in light of how he was declared winner through dubious and unverifiable results by ZEC, makes me suspect he is an accomplice in the heist, who knows where his bread is buttered and doesn't want to question the current status quo, for fear of losing a place at the political dinner high table. And l also blame Trevor for not asking hard hitting questions, preferring the spiritual side rather than the practical and physical. For instance, l would have expected him to question the practicality of locking the two in one room, as well as the chaotic nature of the last elections and how his training by UN was relevant visavis the sophisticated methods methods used by Zanu pf when rigging elections.
I’m very annoyed at this devil masquerading as a priest
We need a conversation with Rev Mutata
this man lied with a straight face, betrayed Mugabe , lied about Tongogara
Interesting to see the clearly Father Mukonori and Trevor don't share the same views and they argued in a very professional way. Trevor really tried to get the old Padre to go into a corner but the Father Mukonori was very intellectual in his responses and refused to be moved into corners and sensation.
Hi Trevor,
Did you intentionally cut the Father when he wanted to give Josiah Tungamirayi's version of Tongogara's accident? When you came back from the break, then you started asking something else.