The most MISUNDERSTOOD control on a tractor - TMT
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I disagree. I think the most misunderstood control on a tractor is the draft control on the three point hitch lift system.
Sweet. Going to shut my brothers valve on his tractor. It will take him forever to figure it out. Haha.
Dude, LMAO on this. Next time I go to my brother's house I'm gonna do that to him too. Thanks for a laugh and a great idea! 👍
LOLOLOL!!
Gotta love brotherly love ✌✌
Update- yesterday was at his house. I nonchalantly asked him if he knew what that knob does. He said no. The stage is set. Next time I'm out there I'm doing it.
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this is the most useful random video to ever have popped up in my feed.
Bought land a little over a year ago, and just got used tractors. I found your videos yesterday and subscribed. Thanks for helping newbies like me.
Great video. I like the part about cranking the knob between your legs waiting for something to happen because I can relate.
... used to play with that same knob, as a kid, on Dad's old B275.
He'd always be angry later on, and give me a clip over the ear'ole for doing it again...
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Did you hear the comedian's story about his dad welding his Cockshutt? It's on here somewhere.
Way to funny
Another great video.....keep 'em comin'! UPDATE: I read about this when I got my tractor 10 years ago and completely forgot about it. Lately I was thinkin' what a pain it is to try and lower the brush hog without droppin' it on the ground. Well, duhhhhhh. Thanks for reminding me. I went to close the valve and found it was full open and wrench tight. I couldn't break it loose. I hit the seal area with a little squirt of WD-40. I then wrapped the knob in a shop towel and took a pair of ChannelLock pliars and ever so gently tried to close it. I felt it break loose and then it was easy as pie to rotate back and forth. I started my tractor and raised up the implement with the valve fully closed. I then adjusted it to the speed I wanted and it worked perfectly. Thanks for the great tips you give and in particular, this great reminder to make sure you exercise this valve.
One of my favorite controls for using a box blade when I’m reconditioning the driveway.
I'd nominate the draft control adjuster as the most misunderstood control. Owners eventually figure out the three-point-hitch restrictor valve. Draft control, over 75% of tractor owners who have it have no clue what it is or how to use it. Love your videos.
Definitely was a contender. Only admitted because most small tractors don't have it.
You mean omitted.
Good point. Years ago practically every small tractor had draft control; now lots of small tractors don't have it. I have a JD 5075E which I consider a bigger utility tractor and while I really like it, the draft control system is crude compared to smaller tractors I drove in my youth. It's just not a function that's appreciated or requested much anymore.
@@MessicksEquip Thanks for this video, I definitely learned something. My old JD 1050 has the draft control, and I do not know how to use it. I would appreciate some education on this feature.
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Just found this channel and it's awesome. You really cover it all! Can't wait to see more. Thanks!
It’s interesting how your phone listens and passes on your struggles to TH-cam to give you advice. Even if no one cares what you say or do at least Google is listening. People say is bad your phone listens to you and tracks where you go. However people say we don’t listen or care about each other anymore.
thisbis the absolute best channel for any and all tractor information. thank you for doing this !
so this explaines why my log spliter droped like a rock last time but bearly moved the first time i tryed using it, very helpfull video thank you for this explanation.
I really appreciate you taking the time to do these videos. They really help me a lot. I just subscribed to your channel. Thanks again.
I really appreciate your videos Neil!
I have a b7100 kabota that I recently inherited never noticed that valve under the seat. This will make using my rototiller much nicer to use THANK YOU for making the videos
Thank you for this video and all the others [especially the BX1800 and BX25D] my tractor has been "bucking" lately. I knew about the TMT knob, but I didn't know which way to turn it. I tried both ways, but maybe not enough. The tractor bucked either way and the symbol on the knob is no clue to me. I was able to see you turn it clockwise to close the valve. I live too far away to have your company maintain my tractors, but your videos have helped me a lot! Thanks.
I love these videos, I have a L3901 and am learning alot . Thanks
I think that the reason that this video was needed was the rise of the utility tractor. A lot of tractor owners today may use them for gardening or small scale farming as well as around their property but they weren't raised by farmers or around tractors enough to know all this stuff as kids.
Great Video. Owned a L3130D for about ten years. I knew what that control was, but not how to adjust it PROPERLY. THANKS.
That is a nice tip as I was one of those who didn't know anything about that knob either when I got my first tractor.
Sidney Mathious : That's what they make Owner's Manual's for. Ya know, it's that thing that's made out of paper, has print and pictures in it, and you actually have to READ the words in it? It's also why you have a brain and a mouth, so you can ASK and find out from someone that knows. I'm always amazed how ignorant people actually CHOOSE to be about so many things in life. Don't tell me you didn't have a manual either. Lame excuse. They are almost always available for purchase even for the real old stuff. Additionally, nowadays with the internet you can find all kinds of information easily, if you actually want to find out.
@@turbodiesel4709 Americans are the 1st in the world to "become as they were in the days of Noah", judging by that response.
Thank you so much! Helping my brother who couldn't figure out how to lower the arms. He has dementia, so I'm learning more than I want to on the farm equipment!
I subscibed a looong time ago and I watch every single video.. and I'm not even American. I'm from Germany and watch your videos because one can learn so much from them. These videos are VERY useful!
I really appreciate the videos and learn a lot from them. Someday I'll get to use all this knowledge...
Your content is very informative and the presentation is understandable for the novice. Thanks Messick's
I've had my Kubota tractor for 17 years and never understood what this knob did. Recently I've noticed that when I lowered my rotary cutter (HEAVY) it was causing the tractor to buck (exactly as you showed) and I could not figure out what was causing this. Now I know. Many thanks!!!!!
Even my 1968 massey 135 has this feature, surprisingly useful and regularly used.
navaraboy3000 : That simply depends on how you use your tractor. Not everyone uses a tractor for the same tasks. Some may use the hell out of it, others may rarely use it, and some may never use it at all.
It saddens me to think that enough people didn't know this that it was worth making a video about.
This is an excellent explanation. Thank You ......
Thank you sooooo much!!! My BX2680 has this and I was completely in the dark about this.....you guys are great!!!
Thank you sir. Love my 2380 with F E L and 54 inch mower
Thankyou for this video, I'm not a regular tractor driving person and have no user manual for my farmall so every tip and trick helps. (lots)
You want find that knob on a farmall it has touch controll hydralics.
Great video!!! Always wondered about that on my JD... great content creation!
BEST Kubota Tractor user videos available. THANK YOU.
Thanks Again!! Good to know and as always you videos are a big help.
I have wondered what that did but didn't touch it! But now I'll check it out. Thanks!
Throughly enjoy your videos!
Excellent videos from you keep them coming
If you're paying attention you can learn something new everyday!
i am and have been subscribed since day one.. when you had a part for my Cub Cadet SC2400 that no one else had..
Best explanation I've heard.
Thanks.
Great Info For New Owners and Operators Keep it Up and be safe
Allen Harper knows his stuff!
The most misunderstood thing on my tractor, is my wife.
Gary Ungar : No truer words have ever been stated / spoken!!!!!! LOL
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My now ex wife wanted to prove she was as capable as me so I put her on my backhoe tractor. Yea, it went just like any man would expect it to go.
Her utter lack of understanding of how to run, or learn to use, a complex and powerful machine was all my fault.
@Bighorn44 None Actually I planned ahead on the bank account issue. Before we got married we agreed to Mine, Her's and ours accounts.
Mine always had enough, ours barely had enough and her's was empty 11- 13 out of every 14 day pay period despite her for much of our mariage having a rather impressive high paying office job that netted her about double my take home pay on the average.
Or at least until I went to the oilfields, then I more than doubled mine over hers, which just pissed her off for stupid reasons even though it then let her have near 90% of her paychecks for pure play money (she still stayed broke with that too).
Great videos! Never knew what that knob did!
Another great video!
Aha! I knew that the valve adjusted the 3pt rate of drop, but didn't realize that it could/should be fine-tuned for each implement to assure SMOOTH drop movement. EXCELLENT!
This is not even in my tractor manual. Brilliant video!
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO!✌🏻️
Love your videos, they are very informative.
What's nice is open that valve up with a mower like that when it's already down. It will let it follow the terrain more quickly.
On some models it is located near the rear of the seat.
You always have informational and interesting topics, thanks
Excellent! Thank you!
Thank you. I had no idea.
If the drop-rate valve is not used regularly or lubricated as per the manual they can easily seize up and become inoperative. This is quite common on used tractors where the previous owner never changed the setting.
I bought a m6060 with 400 hours and my valve is seized up. I’ve used kroil, WD 40. Nothing seems to work. Any advice?
@@mechmusicman I had to put an implement on mine, drive it to bounce it a little and then it un-seized (if that's a word).
@@mechmusicmanTry auto trans fluid. Squirt some on all the way around numerous times through the day whenever you walk past it. Each time you squirt try a slight torque with visegrips on the shaft and hand on the knob. Don't torque to heavy on the visegrips tho. Just rock it back and forth gently. This will work the auto trans fluid in. You also could wrap a shop rag around it soaked with autotran fluid. There's something else you can mix with the auto tran fluid I was reading about in the spring. Forget what it was but it helps it spread, thins it out. Wouldn't hurt to use some Liquid Wrench mix with it too or your Kroil.
You are correct, had no idea what it was for lol.. thanks
I did not know that! Thanks now I know. I'll adjust my kabota tomorrow.
You guys are awesome .
I seen a belarus tractor (russian made) have down pressure. it would actually lift the rear end of the tractor off the ground. i thought it was awesome and wondered why other manufactures didnt put that feature on tractors because i can think of many uses from being able to add weight to an implient like a disc hydralicly or if you got stuck you could lift the tractor up and throw something under the tire to get out on.
I'm pretty sure that I remember using a tractor with hydraulic down-pressure on the 3-point. It would have been 30 years ago or so and the tractor probaby 20-30 years old at the time, but I recall that it was very handy with the back blade for leveling the driveway. At the time we had Ford, JD, International, and maybe something else tractors so who knows.
Case's "Eagle Hitch" and IH's "2-point fast hitch" had down pressure on certain models of their tractors. Not sure about the others.
i'm pretty sure Deere has it on many of there models. I know that my Dad has it on some of his.
This is why you read and understand your manuals, its in there.
who reads manuals?
John Parson people that know what that knob is for
There was a control knob for the spring in the seat that sat right above this valve knob on the 3830 Model, cant remember exact number but right series. My father liked for his seat to move one way, and I adjusted it for the way I liked it when I rode it. One of us got on the tractor one day and turned the wrong knob, then for the life of us neither of us could figure out why the implement would not go down. We loaded the tractor and took it to the dealer, who then showed us what was wrong. We both felt rather foolish, and having wasted about 3 hours, returned to work knowing how to operate that valve.
Ohh Paul the L48 also has the seat spring tension knob just above the hydraulic control knob.
Nice tractor, nice video.
Thanks for the explanation.
I dont have that on my mahindra 4535. Then again, it was orginally a backhoe type tractor. Usually with that model hydros were options. The Pervious owner kept the hoe, and traded the tractor at 100 hours due to it being open controls for closed cabin. Hell of a deal as its sisters 4545 ran 27k. and the 4555 running 32k. We got our tractor for 18k and 4x4.
I remember when I found that control on my neighbors tractor when I borrowed it to help fix our road. Before that I was just slamming that box blade down everywhere. 😂
Your instructional videos are very helpful. I suggest making one talking about the importance of every person who operates a tractor taking the time to read the manual.
I don't own a tractor but I use them at work & at times I am held responsible for damages done by any employees below me who I give the ok to run the tractors. I make sure they read and thoroughly understand the operators manual.
It may save a life & it certainly has saved the equipment from a lot of wear & tear.
Wayne S. : Best thing to do with a new employee is send them home with a copy of the tractor's "Owner's Manual" for a week and tell them to read it from cover to cover and then to come and see you with any questions. Tell them that there will be a quiz, with you, at the end of the week. Tell them that you will know if they read it or not, and that they will be fired if they don't read the manual. You'd be surprised how they will actually make the time to actually read it for once! If you take the time to go over the equipment with them in person, and SHOW them how to operate it, you'd be amazed how helpful that really is to ANY person that is not 100% familiar with a given piece of equipment. Of course, you need to know everything about it yourself! LOL (You'd be surprised how many owner's don't even know how to properly operate their own equipment.)
Thank you!!♥️ Your videos
If you were a little closer to Lake Charles LA. I would buy from you I have been going to these tractor places here and they know absolute nothing!!! I learn more in 3 minutes here then when I spend an hour in the dealership.
Most of us who grew up around tractors were taught to first close the valve everytime an implement was changed out, then drop the lever all the way down and slowly turn or adjust the knob/lever......"draft control" is a completely different lever and deals with the force required to lift the implement out of "hard spots" when your tire begins to slip.
Well, there is position control then there is draft and then there is sensitivity.
@@hp2084 It was known as a "rate of drop" valve on MF.
@@georgepruitt637 Sensitivity is different then rate of drop. Sensitivity is how much the tractor will be allowed to lug before the implement is lifted so that the tractor starts moving.
Hence the multiple positions on top link mounting on tractor.@@hp2084
Thank you.
From one of those guys who didn't know what that knob was for. Thank you so much, I too thought something was wrong.
thought it was a seat adjustment
Great video..... Thank you!
Awesome thanks, I am having that exact issue with my BX2380, now I can tune my 3 point hitch drop rate. I thought the knob was for the mower deck height adjustment (that I don't have) .
Mower knob will have something like 1-4 and top written on it.
Subscribed. Excellent content.
I knew that... as in "used to remember it". Thanks for the reminder!
learned something new today! thanks! is that an l3901? sorry if you said it and i missed it.
Thanks for your video
The Belarus T250 actually can push down. It utilizes a double acting cylinder to operate the 3 point.
I learned that by trying everything out on my first tractor years back. I'm pretty certain the vast majority of farmers are well aware of that valve and it's function.
Not around here. I asked 5 guys around me that have run tractors for over 15 years and they each gave a different answer, 2 of them didn't even know what it was for. So I asked the dealer, and they had to look it up, which meant a phone call to the manufacturer because its not even in the manual.
Farmers aren't the only people that have tractors.
nice vid well presented.
I know little about tractors but I knew what this knob did. It took me a year to find the float feature!
Great explanation
I use to like tricking the guys at work with our old Ford Tractors.
In the 70's and 80's they never had this option.
What they had was like a push rod one instead under the seat.
You would push it and the 3 point linkage wouldn't work lol.
Learnt in on the farm in the 60's and early 70's when i was a kid.
We had a Ford 3000, grey petrol Fergie and a Fordson Major.
Great video. Is it possible for the plastic knob on the valve to disconnect from the rod it's on so that when you turn the knob the shaft doesn't move and the three point won't lower? I've seen this on a BX1870.
It's worth getting to know how to work that valve with a rear blade or posthole auger.
Yes, in fact it's worth knowing for almost ANY 3-point mounted implement.
Thank you, didn’t know that
Thanks! I did not know that
Thanks great information
I would like to nominate the hydrostatic forward/reverse pedals as the SECOND most misunderstood control on a tractor. The majority of new tractor owners treat the pedals as you would the gas pedal on a car or truck meaning when they need more power they mash the pedal down which has the exact opposite effect.
that's on my list for a future 3-minute thursday :-)
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EOSJOE Truth! If you need to pull a stuck vehicle, stump or something else throttle up and lightly push the peddle forward or reverse for maximum gear ratio/ torque out of a HST trans
I like gear shift tractor much better than the hydros ive used if i had a newer tractor i would want a reverser trans tractor but since im old school with a hand clutch JD i am happy the way it is
A hydro is really nice when you need to work in very tight quarters but nothing beats gear drive for power. With a hydro it's too easy for the pressure relief valve to trip which results in the tractor just sitting there whining at you and no tire movement. With gear drive when you release the clutch it's either going to move, stall, spin or flip. :-)
can you demonstrate how properly adjust the seat knob? Thanks
There are some tractor manufacturing co. That make down pressure on the three point hitch. Such as the Belarus
Didn't know this control existed. Apparently older Yanmars don't have this feature - one must feather the implement down to control bounce (or a crashing drop).
Most older tractors don’t. My old farmtrac (I bet you are questioning what is a farmtrac) doesn’t have this and it’s great for discing because it slams down and into the ground
Good info didn’t know about that
Just subscribed! God bless everyone.
Modern tractors are pretty easy to drive. Having grown up on a farm I have encountered tractors with two clutch pedals, crawling gears and a lot of other stuff that makes those modern tractors seem pretty simple.
Many of the newer ones you just press a pedal to go forward or backwards LOL...I've never owned a tractor, operated a few but man these new ones really make you lazy when you go back to an older tractor and run it for a while LOL.
The brakes on some old tractors are terrible when moving in reverse. You have to be real careful when going up a hill to not stop and have to hold the tractor in place. They work fine when going forward.
thank you
Great information.....
I happen to learn that control the hard way when my post hole digger wouldn't come down and I finally remembered what I'd done before.
Good info 👍