Can these Refines LIVE up to the hype?! Fallen Ike, Nemesis, Anna, & more | Fire Emblem Heroes

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    00:00 Intro
    00:07 Nemesis
    03:03 Julian
    04:50 Anna
    06:54 Summer Selena
    08:39 Fallen Ike
    13:03 Who won Refine War
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  • @natk205
    @natk205 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I wouldn't underestimate Ike's refine. He can still work, but needs help. Now with Summer Selena, I refined her instantly. The amount of stuff she got was insane.

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes it can work definitely, but doesn't address any of his key weaknesses

  • @krislee3155
    @krislee3155 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Why didn't they give Nemesis auto follow-up? With Ashnard's refine and now Nemesis's, I feel like IS just doesn't want to give auto follow-up to GHB units. You're forced to run Quick Reposte seal on them.

    • @Alector12
      @Alector12 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I mean, Ashnard has more synergistic options than Quick Riposte. In the newest banner, Super Micaiah presents the desirable evolution of the Rein skills, with auto-follow-up included that would make him double down as the master of the reins. Now he only has to wait for the physical part of the skill.

    • @krislee3155
      @krislee3155 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Alector12 True, I just said Ashnard because he was another one I expected to get auto follow-up but didn't.

  • @nicotopin6552
    @nicotopin6552 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I'll watch the video later but for now I think that Fike got a nice refine...if it was like 6 months ago
    Anyway he got a lot of nice effects but none of them really fixes his issues, they did the same mistake with baby Ike forcing him in a 4 cooldown special
    I have a few ideas in mind for his builds but I don't think he'll return relevant until we get spd/def unity, a speed version of laguz friend or a better C skill that help tanking
    I think it would be so much better if he got nfu instead of dr piercing and the special jump of 2 if he has an offensive special and 1 if it's defensive

    • @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057
      @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      wouldn´t breath of Life 4 could help him tank better ? m

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Completely agree. I'm still not a fan of NFU, but it definitely would have been better than piercing

  • @5C0RP_
    @5C0RP_ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love Apotheosis Anna refine , really good

  • @CASantos
    @CASantos หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Well, I'm a bit underwhelmed by Ike but on the bright side in the future, when we get a competitor B slot to LF4, it might give him new life. 🫤
    But they've really been lowballing refines this year. Last year, we got Gerik & LChrom who jumped to meta/ relevancy with a refine. This year, with many highly anticipated refines like FIke, FLyon, LMByleth, LSigurd, they've been clearly undertuning them. IS is fully in the "sell new units, ONLY" era, which sucks. I'm no longer excited for Ashera & LClaude, two +10s I've had benched for a while, after seeing these last few months of refines... I'd rather they get skipped until IS feels like making actual *good and exciting* batches again 😓

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ya the only crazy refine of this year has been dagr unfortunately

  • @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057
    @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yikes!!! at first I thought F!Ike was ok, now I see all the issues
    I´m pretty happy with S!Selena´s refine, her support is good for limited heroe battles which I apprieciate

  • @mneumvis
    @mneumvis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The amount of mobility which Anna got is crazy.

  • @shoutokubayo
    @shoutokubayo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Darn, I wonder what base Selena will get for her refine.

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am sad that Nemesis did not get Distant Counter.

  • @drodn0079
    @drodn0079 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see that my first 5 star got a really good refine!!

  • @backupfam3893
    @backupfam3893 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ike really needed NCD 4 or NFU to contest most of the meta nukes. Running Laguz Friend 4 isn’t as viable now if he can’t counter half the roster.
    I.S once again lowballing their distant counter weapon units. It’s a shame, because Fallen Ike was my first +10.

  • @gokuby
    @gokuby หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I personally am really underwhelmed by Julien, I would put him into C tier.
    While Ikes refine is pretty antisynergistic with Laguz Friend I still think it's pretty good, on par with Anna I'd say.
    The winner of the batch is summer Selena for me.

  • @Ritsu362
    @Ritsu362 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t played FEH in months but is it normal for units to get crazy support effects for refine? Selena and Anna look kinda nutty

  • @Renkencen
    @Renkencen หลายเดือนก่อน

    I probably gonna refine Anne. Those are some nice extra support there!

  • @frostbitex23
    @frostbitex23 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First! Mwahahaha.
    EDIT: Can't wait to use Summer Selena as I have her in my barracks. All those crazy shenanigans she can pull off. Oh boooooy!

  • @Woolymammoth-db1lt
    @Woolymammoth-db1lt หลายเดือนก่อน

    nemesis gets 75% dr for a simple condition and its a fun refrence to his boss fight (beat the elites then you can hurt him fully). if the condition were 50% or more hp for allies over 75% hp then that would be good
    but the meta is very unforgiving that percent dr is meh this couldve been a to s tier.

  • @dlion5313
    @dlion5313 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do I build ike?

    • @krtos7514
      @krtos7514 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vital Astra + Atk/Spd Finish (or Atk Spd Unity for more stat stacking) + Spurn 4 (if you have been investing in him, if not Null counter 4 or Guard 4) + Spd Smoke 4 (dodge effect can be outsourced with Anna Refine or A!Peonny dance) or Fatal Smoke 4 or Time Pulse 4. If you use him with his pref skill then Gambit 4 is a choice for B slot and a Pledge skill for C slot.

    • @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732
      @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I got him
      Mayhem aether (emblem ike ring)
      Atk/Spd unity
      Close call 4
      Spd smoke 4
      Darting breath.
      I advice getting him a pledge skill so u dont have to run darting breath and stack more speed with a sacred seal

    • @dlion5313
      @dlion5313 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732 I build hin with atk/Def unity, lagus, infantry nfu. It's working

    • @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732
      @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dlion5313 oooh thats a good idea. If only i had spare emblem ikes🫠

  • @realcass072
    @realcass072 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:25
    They can't give him slaying and anti-guard because it would make his starting A skill useless

  • @kirbymasterdeluxe
    @kirbymasterdeluxe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad Nemesis is pretty okay. Not all that useful where it counts, but it’s not like I play the meta.

  • @jsterdawg72
    @jsterdawg72 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like ike kinda has to go gambit/ncd4... Lotta true damage, dr to stack
    Then he needs BOL 4 and anti special jump support

  • @richardlee3679
    @richardlee3679 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just look at Nemesis, the final boss.
    Look at how they massacred my boy. 😢

    • @Woolymammoth-db1lt
      @Woolymammoth-db1lt หลายเดือนก่อน

      theres so much dr piercing that makes it bad by comparrison and if the healthy allies was 50% that would be better.
      the solution right now is true dr which he can use well (laguz friend). but i feel there will be a skill or visible buff that " reduce non special dr piercing by 50% or something.

  • @Paiguy7
    @Paiguy7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not refining any of these, even my forma Ike

  • @qcop4921
    @qcop4921 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ike's DR should be flat 20% based on his SPD instead. It's...all over the place tbh.

  • @hexblade.gaming
    @hexblade.gaming หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy Pride Refines.

  • @ibra_bobo7264
    @ibra_bobo7264 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t get why IS is giving emblem Ike a huge buff with breath of life 4 and simultaneously creating such an lacklustre refine for fike lol

    • @richardlee3679
      @richardlee3679 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      F!Ike has been around for long enough that anyone who wanted to +10 him has probably already done so.
      E!Ike is NEW AND mega powerful so while people still likely haven't +10'd him, everyone WANTS both him and the skill required to take away his only weakness.
      They basically know where the money is and are putting most of the incentives towards pulling on that unit.

    • @solidoxygen7873
      @solidoxygen7873 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The answer is always money