Capturing the Essence of Classic Sonic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2020
- In the wake of classic Sonic's recent resurgence, we look back on the character's rich history and perhaps misunderstood visual identity. Why does Sonic look the way he does? Why is it so appealing? Who's really behind it? And perhaps most important, can this be exploited?
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"You are not mistaking this guy for anyone else", tell that to the military in sonic adventure 2😂
They should probably look for other jobs.
Eh, the military had a clear agenda to have their real operations hidden from the public (see Rouge taking orders from the President to uncover Project Shadow). There is a good chance that the military were finding a scapegoat to contain the mass panic of Shadow stealing a Chaos Emerald in public without having to reveal the less than noble conspiracy around Shadow (play SA2).
But yes, they should be fired. I’m surprised the President didn’t do anything after Rouge reported back with the information and seeing Gerald’s last words on live TV.
@@TransparencybooYou should tell that to the movie verse GUN if they end up mistaking Sonic for Shadow in that universe too. 😂😂 I can see it happening now… GUN in the movies are… WAY less competent than in the games universe.
"He's coming RIGHT TOWARDS YOU AHHH--"
WATCH OUT!!
"Michael J Ackson" is a magnificent line. And this is, as usual, a great video. I'm amazed at how quickly you put out such well researched, well edited videos.
Thanks! Sometimes we surprise ourselves, haha!
I actually started writing this one in March, so it took some time to get out.
27:16 This channel gets all my likes forever.
Haha, glad you like it!
We are honestly kind of surprised the Sonic community doesn't seem to have found it quite yet.
The bit about red vs blue brands killed me. I am now dead (but in a good way.)
Rest in peace, friend! ❤️
it's a real shame that Disney went and took such a foundational advancement in animation and used it as a stick to uphold the power of their brand and effectively kill the public domain.
this comment is mostly for the algorithm, the video's neat so far
Disney is a horror show. We never actually mentioned Disney by name in this video, haha.
13:05 omg Michael J. Fox vs Michael J. Ackson
Dream fight.
"We've gone quite a long time now without anything truly new from Sonic Team." This stings. I'm still waiting for a truly new Sonic game again one day. I LOVED Mania, it's my second-favourite Sonic game (next to 3&K), but damn, I would have loved it even more if it was entirely new.
I want more of my pure, untainted Classic Sonic...but without drifting into the overly corporate blind consumerism that you allude to at the end of this video. Or maybe, they could just make good Sonic games again, regardless of which style they go with, but I'd still hope that the final product can embody what made Sonic so good in the first place, both from its surface level aesthetics, and its deeper, momentum-based gameplay. I've been asking for this for what feels like my entire time being a fan of this character.
This is such a great essay, and very inspiring! There's kind of a funny tension towards the end, knowing what we now know about the surprise success of Frontiers, and in light of recent leaks that Mania 2 has been scrapped and Sonic Team will make Sonic 5 (assuming any of that is true).
LET 👏🏾KIKI 👏🏾 HAVE 👏🏾CD-ROSE👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Yes! Free Amy!
Thanks for pointing out that Sonic’s design (like that of Mickey Mouse) is iconic within its limited original context but is clumsy to deal with as actual 3-dimensional form. This problem became apparent early on and has never really been resolved.
Good point
Love that bit about Generations. That game never really worked for me and it really should have. 2-D Sonic just felt so off in his movements.
Thanks! You are probably not alone either, some did not feel it however until Sonic Forces.
12:41 Coca Cola vs Pepsi and Colgate vs Pepsodent was such a mind-blowing observation 🤣
A revelation.
This is such an underrated channel, holy!!
Haha, thanks. Well, maybe one day we will be 'rated'. :)
16:41
The... The Mind's Eye?
Naoto Ohshima's blue boi was inspired by THE MIND'S EYE?! ONE OF MY MOST NOSTALGIC VHS TAPES?!
HELL YEAH!!!
the little touches to make this stand out as a sonic piece, from the editing of the intro to the ocs at the end, are a thing of pure beauty. i need a "two thumbs up" button.
Thank you for acknowledging the OCs, it's been a year and the fact that no one ever talks about it was starting to become uncomfortable, haha!
Sonic :)
Sanic
sanek
SAANIC!
@@Transparencyboo GOTTA GO FAST
mjeeeeeeee
Way past cool!
Horrifically underated channel.
Thank you, I guess at least we're not overrated, haha.🧡
I loved the "academic" segment!
Thanks, we had a lot of fun with it!
Wow, this was a really interesting video about Sonic! I came here from Casey's tweet and wow this was so much fun to watch. I really like how distinct the thumbnails you use are, they're pretty neat! Keep up the great videos, I hope your channel will grow in popularity soon!
Thanks for the kind words, and we are glad you liked it so much! Welcome aboard, friend! :)
I wish I could like this video more than once... hope this channel starts getting the attention it deserves!
Share with your friends, parents and pets. They can like it for you, haha.
That part at the end hit kinda hard cuz this video reminded me of why I liked Sonic in the first place for a moment. Sometimes you consume too much of one type of media yknow
I honestly didn’t think I was going to be interested part way through because I thought this was going to be purely about the aesthetic and I don’t generally care for that, but you not only proved me wrong but even made the bit centered more around the art versus gameplay very interesting to listen to.
So thank you.
Yea of course I would watch a Sonic Video Essay the entire way through. Anyways I love CD's asthetic which makes it one of my favorite CS games, but it could of used some work in game design. (Also while Naka was heavily involved with alot of ST projects, I never saw him as creator. Especially NiGHTS, that was more of Iizuka's child imo)
That conclusion honestly scared me cause I do like both C&M Sonic, and I feel like while the Adventure games were a depature from the classic asthetic, it expanded a more cinematic asthetic that evolved into the modern era. Say what you want about the "dark ages" but that is unironically my favorite era of Sonic. I'll defend Black Knight to my grave lol. We got my favorite moments, games, and media in the series in that era. They were products of that time in asthetic, and that's what I feel Sonic should be as he evolves. The modern definition of cool. (Imo I feel the movie kinda had that for today's standard, while respecting the classics too) Anyways great video, would love to discuss lots of Sonic shit with y'all.
Thanks! Honestly the movie was really quite good at melding the new and old in a cool way, so maybe that is one way to go forward? It is quite an exciting time. Hit us up if you ever wanna talk, we're up for it.
Classic should take over
In the end we just hope Sonic fans get what they want. It seems the fan base has a hard time just rolling with the punches, you know? Hopefully the wider community will be able to enjoy themselves again soon enough.
36:34 your not wrong XD
He is a loveable fellow after all
We all love sonic....
Anyone saying they don't is a liar!
Seeing how you gals put such a cute and affectionate effort into reading and replying every comment, this is going to be a struggle because I'm going to write like there was no tomorrow, but I just need to, so you're free from the obligation, you've been warned
Back when Orkut was a big thing around here, we had this community there, with a name that roughly translated to "I love to play Sonic". Although the name made it look like a silly community filled with kids, it was actually filled with mostly 20-30s millennials that started playing Sonic when 1 or 2 first came out. A lot of them were also artists, developers and other members of the industry. This amounted to a forum that had very high level discussions on the nature of the games, the nature of visual identity essence and gameplay/level design concepts (and of course, a lot of bashing on modern Sonic). There were lots of research on Sonic Retro forums, big walls of texts about "essence", be it either "geometric shapes" or "color palettes" or "not having humans" or "surreal landscapes with no correspondence on reality", and even a topic called "School of Level Design".
I had to tell this uninteresting story because this video made it appear that you're just old members from there, it feels almost nostalgic, as this were the exact same things we talked about from 2009 until 2013, and this video showed a conclusion that I and those members couldn't achieve, because we argued which game had the best example of what Sonic really was... And the answer is here: it's fragmented.
Seeing a video like this in a channel that isn't even all focused on Sonic and in 2020 (yeah I'm seeing now in 2021, but the upload date and all) makes me so proud and happy... I just want to congratulate you so much on this, on your train of thought and research and everything that culminated in this video. Thank you for making it, and wishes that the channel becomes very successful and becomes what you're expecting of it
Ps.: Loved the cat (seen it on the Gamer Identity video)
Hey, we are a bit late to reply to this one, but we wanted to say thanks for the long and thoughtful comment. Really appreciate it! We are actually not old members of that community you refer to, but we are quite aware of the Sonic discourse, haha. We are glad to be able to contribute to the discussion with this one, it is just very fun to talk about Sonic after all. We are a bit surprised not more Sonic fans have found this one yet, because usually they are quite good at finding just about every small take about the blue boy out there, haha. Maybe one day the alghorithm will bless this one and let more Sonic fans see it. Hopefully.
And thanks about saying nice things about our cat, Jucika is the true star of the operation after all ❤️
Hello! I now know that Orkut is closed but I was hoping that all of that Sonic knowledge wasn't completely lost to time. I'm working on a Sonic project solo and am learning all I can about the little blue rat. I want to ask if anything pertaining to the 'I love to play Sonic' community is accessible anywhere. I've gotta find out about their take on Sonic especially if it's anything like this wonderful video. Please share *anything* you can, even if it's just some insight on what makes a great Sonic game or who the people there were🙏!
P.S. This also goes to anyone who is reading this, please share!
so happy i found this channel. this shit legit made my week, no joke
Glad we could make your week! Hope the weekend will treat you well too!
Thank you for this!
Your Sonicsonas are really cute!
Thank you too!
i want to go to the Mania 2 timeline (great vid)
At least we got Penny's Big Breakaway in this timeline.
Such a fantastic video, enlightening and substantial, presented in a nice and concise manner.
Thank you, glad you like it. We really wish more people would have seen this one, so it is nice to see more people noticing it.
Whoaaa Kiki on camera! A rare transparency sighting. The editing was great in this one! I hadnt realized how much complexity there was to the history of the franchise, so this was a fun retrospective for me. I should really get around to playing Sonic Mania
What a great video essay! Very in-depth but also super hilarious.
Pam from Cannot be Tamed gladly shouted your channel out in her last video and I immediately subbed and became a patron after watching this video 🥰 Looking forward to binging through all of your past videos ☺️
Glad you liked it, we really enjoyed making it! And thanks a bunch for even considering supporting us, hope you enjoy our other stuff as well!
Great video. Gotta say Kiki illustrating Sonic design holding a backwards paintbrush makes me giggle uncontrollably! Love all the videos
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
This is informative, and very charming. Well done
Thanks! Might have done a few things different today, but we think it turned out pretty well in the end :)
I loved the Sonic Advance games (at least the first two) when they came out, and the change in style never stopped me from treating it as a true continuation from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I have to wonder if we'll never see another 2D Sonic game using the modern cast and designs.
If i could miss anything about the 2D arah of sonic games it would be the 2D platforms. Sonic has alot of appeal but alot of it can only be shown from a 2D perspective. I know they still do it but not the way they used to.
Oh yeah, absolutely!
13:50: Closely followed by Double Vegeta Mickey Mouse, though perhaps that's unsurprising considering how similar their designs are.
(This is a reference to another video essay about Sonic. If you don't get it, that's why.)
Ok but like...I really DO need some of the Sonic Mania shirts
We are all cursed to consume under capitalism.
the way y'all said "we've always loved sonic" read like a nightvale line
I have no idea what that means, but thanks (I think?), haha!
@@Transparencyboo it's a good vibe! night vale is like, a comedy/horror podcast that is still going but was mostly popular in the early 2010s and it's just told from the view of a radio host. best example for the comparison im going for is there's angels living in an old woman's house and he always follows discussions of them with "angels are not real." and it kind of fits the scary subtle undertones that the capitalist corporation sega would love to shill progressively worse classic sonic to us while saying "it's good and always have been you've always loved sonic." and you kind of delivered it in a way that really evoked the way that host delivers similar lines
@@ghost-foxie Oh, now I get it, okay! That's really cool! Thank you :)
At 5:55 the subtitles read "Liking this to how a white person [...]", I assume from context and audio that the intention is "LikENing this to how a white person [...]"
Thank you so much for both the subtitles and the videos themselves!
Yes, this is correct. It must have flown by when it was edited. Thank you, we have fixed it now.
one day you will get a notification on twitter and i will have drawn your sonic ocs that definitely aren’t just recolored Blaze and Amy
Oh! Would love to see it! Looking forward to that day, haha.
Way past cool!
STEP IT UP!
Just dropping a comment to help with the algorithm... and also say that this video is great ^^
Don't miss your name in the end of course! Thank you
@@Transparencyboo Saw that
Awesome, glad you are with us!
Honestly, they shouldn't have split sonic in two.
Sonic needs a bit of a style guide probably.
rubberhose mickey best mickey
i mean, why else does buena vista keep going back to it these days
It's a good look.
Blue :000
We went all the way, baby! Going blue for the occasion!
@@Transparencyboo love it >:0
THANK YOU!
Praise The Algori-I MEAN SONIC
Holy spirit of gotta go fast!
Sonic's blue, da ba dee da ba daa da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
(this comment was mostly for the algorithm.)
Still relevant.
algorithm and love
blue streaks speeds by... 😢
Too fast for the naked eye!
he can really move... 😭
@@IkilledA0livebox He's got an attitude!
*then either Sonic is a God **_or could kill God AND I DO NOT CARE IF_* - oops, wrong video.
But good video. :3
Thank you :)
So God chanel
I love Felix the Cat so much. Great episode, girls!
Thanks! Felix is a good boy!