point about koreans always meeting friends and doing things outside of the home contributing to the rise of cafes in korea makes a lot of sense, astute observation
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I've never seen cafes similar to the themed Korean cafes. Great reason to visit Korea... along with so many other things to do. Visit in October, beautiful time of year. 😊❤
Oh my... such a comforting episode 🥰 More please... a soul food episode? You know what? I should go to cafés ! In my city. To me it is wasted money but I should just make it special. And lists abound... maybe even local Koreans may have found or started good ones here. I should follow their lead ^^ Plus, Winter is coming... 😱😂
I thought croffles were a twist on the cronut (croissant-donut) which originated from NYC and was super popular in the States about 10 years ago. Ironic that the kouign-amann can be found in Seoul which is very similar to the cronut. For the industrial/warehouse chic in 성수동, yes ... gentrified in a sense but a lot of the Korean design philosophy is to integrate/modernize the existing architecture and preserve the neighborhood vibe which I think is to their credit. And finally, one note about the cafe culture in Korea - in 2022 alone, imported coffee beans broke records with a value of $1.3B, a 45% increase from the previous year so I think that stat alone is a testament to Korea's java craze. This is I believe Korea's third iteration of cafe culture where the current generation has evolved away from Starbucks and other domestic or foreign franchises. Now it's more about the experience of drinking coffee than it is about the taste or quality of the coffee itself. Similar to what Shannon said about rethinking the meaning of "cafe", many coffee shops in Seoul are functioning more as pseudo-museums with their originality and aesthetics that mostly intersect with art and culture.
Great episode, David. Mom and I just came back from Seoul and loved it. I will visit again next year and add these recommendations to this list. Thanks!
I was in Seoul last year and I was walking around the Gyeonbokgung palace, I think the area is called Seongdong-gu (I think). Found a cafe with this really cool female owner and the cafe was kind of like a tailor shop/ leather making studio. I had such good coffee there Unfortunately I have forgotten the name and location of the cafe but I really need to know :'(
There is a cafe in Seongdong called Lowide Coffee and I promise you, they have the best chocolate latte I have ever tasted. They use this delicious cream omg, just thinking about it right now makes me want to cry hahaha.
I really appreciate your 'toppings'. I shall never be able to come to S Korea, so I live vicariously through your podcast. Thanks, David, for all your hard work 👍
I hate when ppl ask for too many customizations in America. If someone is going to be that picky, they should just make their drink at home. My cousin works at Starbucks and I feel bad for her.
didnt really understand the "historical"/starbucks answer. the guest jumped from saying cafes were popular in the 1900s to saying "what happened in the 1800s, they had local coffee shops" and then started immediately talking about starbucks.....? (fact check?) the maths ain't mathing as they say. anyway id guess that american culture's influence/u.s. military involvement in sk has sthg to do with popularity of coffee and eventual rise of cafe culture, starbucks im sure comes into play at some point down the line ... coffee bean was huge in korea maybe before starbucks? idk if it still is
I heard that Koreans prefer plain Americano without various additives, partly because it has fewer calories. I'm curious, can you find cheese lattes or Americanos with juice in Korea? What's the most incredible coffee recipe in Korea?
That is true. Americanos are cheap and has low calories, so many people drink it purely for the caffeine or diet purposes. Cheese lattes are not a well-known recipe, but I'm sure you can find them!
I assumed The camera might have stopped filming accidentally or the footage wasn’t saved/got corrupted. I have seen this happen in other podcasts. Like the audio is stored or recorded separately somehow.
I went to a cat cafe in Japan once and it was a little sad. The cats are just pooped from being played with all day. But then I went to a reptile cafe and those big iguanas and snakes seemed to be having a great time lol
Wasn't Korea historically a tea drinking nation like China and Japan? While the west had coffee drinking culture? I think Korea took up the coffee culture as it westernised to look cool. Korea is the most westernised East Asian country. On the other hand, Japan and China are still heavy tea drinking nations, though it is slowly changing in China too.
You have no idea what you're talking about but assume too much. Koreans never developed taste for tea nor were it part of their lives...maybe in ancestral, religious rituals they're used. Also you really think modern Japan still drinks more tea than coffee? I worked in Japanese companies, believe me they're the heaviest coffee drinkers around. Coffee drinking culture originated from Africa/MiddleEast, not the West!! Even in West, coffee drinking is fairly recent phenomenon. Try not to see everything in black and white,
@@kimckawa Coffee drinking may have originated in Africa/Middle East, but the modern coffee drinking culture actually came from the west aka, Starbucks. The world just follows what is trending in the west. I too have worked in Japanese companies and acknowledge the heavy coffee drinking, but are you also aware of the sheer volume of tea they drink, especially the ones available from vending machines and convenience stores...
@@blue_asahi Long before Starbucks, there were already thousands of teashops in China, coffeehouses in Turkey w people leisurely sipping, enjoying and appreciating a fine cup of quality drinks. So this drinking "culture" was already existent long before Europeans adopted these same drinks and behaviors. Not denying Japan is heavy drinking nation as they're prolly biggest exporters of tea beverage products around the world. I am refuting your notion to drink coffee is being "westernized". People from Africa/ME would find offense at this in the form of cultural erasures/appropriation. To the other point about Koreans, no they don't drink tea. If you go to avg. Korean households, you be hard pressed to find any tea products in their pantry. What you may find however is a roasted barley/corns which they use to make hot/cold drinks which they often refer to as "tea".
@@studyenglishdzthey’re talking about cafe culture. Cafe culture is a southern European thing. That’s where it developed even though coffee itself is not from there.
Why no guests from South East Asian countries so far? Korean racism towards South East Asian people should be one of your topics and shall be discussed in your channel. 😂 By the way Indians and Pakistans belong to South Asian, not South East Asian.
Bro wtf are you saying 🚶♀️ ik we're south asian but i think the perception is same I don't think they hate SEA more than us it's pretty equal...how is this racism
To be fair to David it is still a relatively new podcast channel. He is always looking for new topics. There is a link in the description for an application for guests who would like to appear on the show. As the channel continues to grow there will be more diverse topics.
David's Top Cafe Picks!
- MilToast: 30-3, Supyo-ro 28-gil, Jongno-gu, Seoul / @miltoasthouse / instagram.com/miltoasthouse
- Dotori(Garden): 19-8, Gyedong-gil, Jongno-gu, Seoul / @dotori__seoul / instagram.com/dotori__seoul
- Dalmatian: 42, Apgujeong-ro 42-gil, Gangnam-gu, Seoul / @dalmatian_dosan / instagram.com/dalmatian_dosan
- Seoul Angmusae: Hangang-ro 1ga 216-18, Yongsan-gu, Seoul / @seoul_angmusae / instagram.com/seoul_angmusae
What's the last place Shannon mentioned, can you please write?
point about koreans always meeting friends and doing things outside of the home contributing to the rise of cafes in korea makes a lot of sense, astute observation
What do you think of Korea's cafe game? Where are some cafes you would personally recommend in Korea for others to visit?
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I've never seen cafes similar to the themed Korean cafes. Great reason to visit Korea... along with so many other things to do. Visit in October, beautiful time of year. 😊❤
It's my dream to visit! One day 🤞🏻
Yuki so intelligent and eloquent.
This was my favourite episode!
I love cafe-hopping, and can’t wait to visit some of these aesthetic cafes in Seoul next time I visit! ☕️😀
I'm glad you enjoyed! Yes, hope you can visit some of the ones mentioned :)
Yuki spoke well 👍
Oh my... such a comforting episode 🥰
More please... a soul food episode?
You know what? I should go to cafés ! In my city. To me it is wasted money but I should just make it special. And lists abound... maybe even local Koreans may have found or started good ones here. I should follow their lead ^^
Plus, Winter is coming... 😱😂
In the US, I've never seen a theme Cafe. That would be way cool.
Yes, but with tips 😢😂
Haha once those themes get extra you start to doubt what even is a cafe anymore XD
There are but always in tourist spots or we have diners
There are a few in bigger cities! Chicago has several cat and dog cafes! I haven't been though so I can't compare them
Agree with David about Gijang’s cafes!! The cafes have the greatest views since they’re by the sea!!
I thought croffles were a twist on the cronut (croissant-donut) which originated from NYC and was super popular in the States about 10 years ago. Ironic that the kouign-amann can be found in Seoul which is very similar to the cronut. For the industrial/warehouse chic in 성수동, yes ... gentrified in a sense but a lot of the Korean design philosophy is to integrate/modernize the existing architecture and preserve the neighborhood vibe which I think is to their credit. And finally, one note about the cafe culture in Korea - in 2022 alone, imported coffee beans broke records with a value of $1.3B, a 45% increase from the previous year so I think that stat alone is a testament to Korea's java craze. This is I believe Korea's third iteration of cafe culture where the current generation has evolved away from Starbucks and other domestic or foreign franchises. Now it's more about the experience of drinking coffee than it is about the taste or quality of the coffee itself. Similar to what Shannon said about rethinking the meaning of "cafe", many coffee shops in Seoul are functioning more as pseudo-museums with their originality and aesthetics that mostly intersect with art and culture.
that's what i thought too
Great episode, David. Mom and I just came back from Seoul and loved it. I will visit again next year and add these recommendations to this list. Thanks!
Glad you liked Seoul! Yes, please visit and let us know if you liked them!
I was in Seoul last year and I was walking around the Gyeonbokgung palace, I think the area is called Seongdong-gu (I think). Found a cafe with this really cool female owner and the cafe was kind of like a tailor shop/ leather making studio. I had such good coffee there
Unfortunately I have forgotten the name and location of the cafe but I really need to know :'(
Sounds like an interesting cafe! I did a quick search but couldn't find it. I'll try to keep it in mind when I'm in the area!
There is a cafe in Seongdong called Lowide Coffee and I promise you, they have the best chocolate latte I have ever tasted. They use this delicious cream omg, just thinking about it right now makes me want to cry hahaha.
Yuki spoke well❤
I would love a part 2!
I really appreciate your 'toppings'. I shall never be able to come to S Korea, so I live vicariously through your podcast. Thanks, David, for all your hard work 👍
After reading this, I felt like taking it as a challenge to make you visit Korea 😅
Planning to go to Seoul next year so this is great information for me. Many thanks ☕☕😘
Café’s to me are usually like deli merges with specialty coffee. I think that’s the American feel.
That is a vibe itself!
Thanks for sharing these great sounding coffee shops
That's a good idea. Study Cafe.😊
There are so many study cafes near universities or schools! They're more like libraries that sell coffee tho haha
i went to Urban Plant SO many times when i was in Seoul! the food is great and the cool greenery is the best vibe
hi KPC team, it is just like coffee craze in India
It’s the combination studying + food + socializing - love cafes - feeling the fomo 😢 19:42 see! Exactly
This was a great episode!!
Part 2 please!
Thanks for your list, Daivd, could you add the lists of the others as well?
42:09 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no air.
I want to visit Cat cafe. One thing I know, if I get there , I will not leave . That is my heaven 😆
So many cats around you!
LOVED Dotori so much that we went back a few times!
Yay! I'm glad you liked it :)
Do an episode for recommended restaurants pls 🙏
Part two please.
I hate when ppl ask for too many customizations in America. If someone is going to be that picky, they should just make their drink at home. My cousin works at Starbucks and I feel bad for her.
Cat cafe... love that. 😺
Fun fact: Cafe Margaret opened an outlet in Singapore!
I'm so happy to hear the poop café in Insadong is still up and thriving 😂😂 I went there in 2017 hahaha
didnt really understand the "historical"/starbucks answer. the guest jumped from saying cafes were popular in the 1900s to saying "what happened in the 1800s, they had local coffee shops" and then started immediately talking about starbucks.....? (fact check?) the maths ain't mathing as they say. anyway id guess that american culture's influence/u.s. military involvement in sk has sthg to do with popularity of coffee and eventual rise of cafe culture, starbucks im sure comes into play at some point down the line ... coffee bean was huge in korea maybe before starbucks? idk if it still is
I’m assumming she meant the 90s and the 80s lol because that threw me off too. I was like 1800s….??
So what youre saying is i should come over and open a vaperwave cafe
Guaranteed success!
I'll be one of the first in line ✋
I heard that Koreans prefer plain Americano without various additives, partly because it has fewer calories. I'm curious, can you find cheese lattes or Americanos with juice in Korea? What's the most incredible coffee recipe in Korea?
That is true. Americanos are cheap and has low calories, so many people drink it purely for the caffeine or diet purposes. Cheese lattes are not a well-known recipe, but I'm sure you can find them!
Got a blank screen for 5 minutes "camera reload" ????
I assumed The camera might have stopped filming accidentally or the footage wasn’t saved/got corrupted. I have seen this happen in other podcasts. Like the audio is stored or recorded separately somehow.
@@artistblue18 yes the camera stopped recording for that part :(
I think I would also feel guilty in a animal cafe. I also think having cats around is cute. I mean if the animals look happy, I am happy I guess.
Yeah, you kind of feel like in a zoo for animal cafes unfortunately.
I went to a cat cafe in Japan once and it was a little sad. The cats are just pooped from being played with all day. But then I went to a reptile cafe and those big iguanas and snakes seemed to be having a great time lol
Wasn't Korea historically a tea drinking nation like China and Japan? While the west had coffee drinking culture? I think Korea took up the coffee culture as it westernised to look cool. Korea is the most westernised East Asian country. On the other hand, Japan and China are still heavy tea drinking nations, though it is slowly changing in China too.
You have no idea what you're talking about but assume too much. Koreans never developed taste for tea nor were it part of their lives...maybe in ancestral, religious rituals they're used. Also you really think modern Japan still drinks more tea than coffee? I worked in Japanese companies, believe me they're the heaviest coffee drinkers around. Coffee drinking culture originated from Africa/MiddleEast, not the West!! Even in West, coffee drinking is fairly recent phenomenon. Try not to see everything in black and white,
@@kimckawa Coffee drinking may have originated in Africa/Middle East, but the modern coffee drinking culture actually came from the west aka, Starbucks. The world just follows what is trending in the west. I too have worked in Japanese companies and acknowledge the heavy coffee drinking, but are you also aware of the sheer volume of tea they drink, especially the ones available from vending machines and convenience stores...
@@blue_asahi Long before Starbucks, there were already thousands of teashops in China, coffeehouses in Turkey w people leisurely sipping, enjoying and appreciating a fine cup of quality drinks. So this drinking "culture" was already existent long before Europeans adopted these same drinks and behaviors. Not denying Japan is heavy drinking nation as they're prolly biggest exporters of tea beverage products around the world. I am refuting your notion to drink coffee is being "westernized". People from Africa/ME would find offense at this in the form of cultural erasures/appropriation. To the other point about Koreans, no they don't drink tea. If you go to avg. Korean households, you be hard pressed to find any tea products in their pantry. What you may find however is a roasted barley/corns which they use to make hot/cold drinks which they often refer to as "tea".
Look coffee culture is not originated from the west don't change history girl the middle east and Africa they are the ones who promoted this culture
@@studyenglishdzthey’re talking about cafe culture. Cafe culture is a southern European thing. That’s where it developed even though coffee itself is not from there.
ehem
dude, just go study to library
Why no guests from South East Asian countries so far? Korean racism towards South East Asian people should be one of your topics and shall be discussed in your channel. 😂 By the way Indians and Pakistans belong to South Asian, not South East Asian.
Bro wtf are you saying 🚶♀️ ik we're south asian but i think the perception is same I don't think they hate SEA more than us it's pretty equal...how is this racism
Maybe he doesn’t have any guests that are willing to go on the podcast
i’m sorry you’ve experienced racism. that’s shit
To be fair to David it is still a relatively new podcast channel. He is always looking for new topics. There is a link in the description for an application for guests who would like to appear on the show. As the channel continues to grow there will be more diverse topics.
I would love to be in such a quiet cafe you describe!