As a British guy, I have never been able to understand Andrew Tate's accent. He's like, American with a cockney inflection on 3 out of every ten words he says
@@TimbahOnToast with age (time), the accent blends with the place they live in. Unless of course people know how their accent works and what to do, to not loose it.
It’s super true tho, some people can’t get through certain adversity. I think you grow the most during hard times but some people can’t cope with those environments
I feel like this is an obvious statement and shouldnt be mentioned as the more important statement should be keep fighting even if it leads to nothing in the end.
There are no videos that's going to help one's build his whole existence giving him a plan to follow. Everyone's going through their own particular jouney. Tate just giving out the bases : don't enjoy comfort too munch and seek adversity to become a capable individual, your mind is the only thing you have total control of, etc.
Destiny's point about people being exceptional at certain skills and being horrible teachers is extremely true. It's a completely different skill to communicate. Anyone who has gone through any upper division education is painfully aware of this.
@@One-uq1ot no it’s not. It’s common knowledge that extremely smart people are terrible about communicating their ideas or making people understand advanced topics. Teaching is just as much of a skill as anything else.
@@One-uq1ot you do know teaching is a skill as well, my cousin is a mechanic and I asked him to teach me how to service my car... it took 4 hours for him to tell me how to change the oil.. and that's a fraction of servicing a car
It should be more obvious considering there is something we are all total experts in: our native language. Just because I know English to an extremely high degree (relative to an ESL beginner) doesn't mean I could teach it properly to somebody.
@@One-uq1ot There's a whole ass degree, masters, and PHD/ doctorate of education just in education. WITH specializations in different industry such as medicine, public health, special ed, engineering, all different sciences and social sciences as well as liberal arts, among plethora of others. It is absolutely true.
The issue with banning Tate is that it reaffirms his ideas about the System bringing down "strong" men, he will probably bounce back with a stronger resolve about his views
Thats a self fulfilling cycle then, of course he’d eventually be banned from all the clips that he has going around. I’m absolutely sure it breaks some kind of ToS. If that gets him banned and then that reaffirms his view then there’s nothing that can really be done.
Nope. When people get deplatformed, their reach and influence decreases. He will reach fewer people regardless of how strongly he believes whatever the hell he believes. There is no level 100 stat for complaining about "the system". It's a 10 point stat at best.
It is strange that they all collectivly perma banned. No body ever did that to anybody (maybe there is, Alex Jones?). No pentalties, no warnings, no strikes. If we draw equivalence to IRL, banning someone in IRL would be putting them in prison, right? What they did to him is basically death sentence. They could strike him, make him moderate content, remove problematic videos. There are channel that only post his gym, kickboxing and fittnes advices and they are getting remove even though there is literally 0 talk about woman.
One of the best teachers I've ever seen is Daniel Naroditsky - if you ever want to learn chess this is where to go. The reason he's so good is that he literally takes notes and studies his students to learn how they think, because he knows his GM brain is just different at this point. He basically always predicts the bad move a lower rated player will make.
@@jiimmyyy Not sure your level but another amazing resource is Chess Network, specifically his beginner to chess master series. It took me from about 1150 to 1500 in maybe a month. If I was to recommend content, I'd say watch as much of that series as you can stomach and then watch Naroditsky's speedruns probably a few hundred elo above you, should catapult your rating
It's sad how many people believe bettering yourself means being exceptional. Not everyone can be the greatest in a certain field. But you can be the best YOU you can be. You can live a good happy life. You don't have to be on the top.
you need pride in yourself and the arrogance that you’ll commit to yourself and sacrifice what is necessary to be the best person, people take pleasure in being better then others it’s unrealistic to think everybody should think this way, What if the “best you” that you believe is just a even worse version of you but you can’t realize it Because you subscribed to this philosophy of not caring what others think?
@@bigdadybojangls9219 but humans are creatures who compare themselves. If you don't feel shitty everyday (in a good way) competitivness will grow you 10x faster
Honestly, when he drops the clown routine he's infinitely more tolerable. I just worry there's a generation of people who are carrying the worst parts of his message into adulthood. Sure he was the most viewed person in the world, but it wasn't for his long form content, which is why he says he's misunderstood. That's something he should be acknowledging.
I’ve listened to Tate’s long form stuff and I really don’t think he’s all that misunderstood. He kind of just says what he thinks. Granted, some of his jokes have been clipped and used out of context, but much of it is just him. Claiming to get rich is easy for anyone and you’re just lazy if you can’t do it. What he’s said about programming women, which are just very messed up ways to manipulate people. The ways he says he’s earned money, casino’s (gambling), cam girls, drop shipping, Hustle Uni etc… money through using or fooling the weak, ignorant, naive or vulnerable and calling it value.
@@Ubreakable-lr2dk nah, Hasan is dumb and says some shit things, but Tate has toxic views that are harmful to young men who adopt them. His view of women is very dark.
Who fn cares. But vaush and Hasan can exist and not only poison young minds, but lie about it, their too far down that hole to break character. Fake mfrs. F this lil fist humpers, the internet is a big scary place, all these young boys should have their parents more involved or they'll grow out of being in awe of a bald guy who has supercars, if not, they're autistic or aspies,, which wouldn't shock me. Appreciate you being concerned about an andrew tate. You're such a hero. Almost a voice for zoomer dipshits or the balance for new generation - genBeta. If you're so concerned, maybe you should be the new voice for this lost new generation, since the baldguybad is so scary. You can call it @2guysonehorse, kind of like you and vaush, only you'll be by yourself.
He's still an idiot, full of anecdotes to suit his narrative, but I agree. Wonder why he's appearing respectful and composed here and not shirtless, smoking a cigar, with sunglasses on.
I’m of two minds on this. One is that Tate isn’t gonna go away. The spotlight right now is on him and he has the name recognition and money to find a workaround to this. The second is more complicated. Even if Tate doesn’t come back there’s a power vacuum that’s been established that will inevitably be filled, particularly by someone with tates appeal and ideology with just a bit more tact. This happened with Zoe Burgher, the original skimpy gamer girl. She pushed the evelope enough to fail, but future streamers learned from her mistakes and that’s why Twitch is as borderline softcore pron as it is today. One of the things I don’t see people talk about is the way Tate presents himself. He has all the things that’s his target audience wants and that’s what compels them to follow his lifestyle and ideology. To get that “tangible” path to success. In this social media oriented era people aren’t satisfied with an ordinary lifestyle that they see as mundane or boring. I see people say that his audience will eventually grow and mature out of it and yeah that’s a possibility. But that involves interacting with the outside world and we’re seeing more and more people receded into the internet and develop anti social tendencies or mimic their own online personalities. And the maturity levels can very depending on when in your life that you had access to these kinds of apps like TH-cam,Instagram, and TikTok. How many adults have we seen act a third of their age nowadays? Far too many. Going back to what I was saying about the second thought is that there needs to be an antithesis to Tate. Someone with his charisma, material items, and can be successful with women. Just with the opposite message than him. That will get their attention unfortunately because even if it came from someone as cool as Destiny, they’re not gonna take it seriously. It sucks but presentation is key, especially nowadays.
No matter what people want to believe, everyone would rather be an Andrew tate than a destiny, and I mean, if all you see is the BS ppl perpetuate BCS if they don't agree with his methods or things he says, then they miss out on much of what tate says that appeals to people the truth the facts stuff we as a society no longer speak on BCS for any number of reasons the truth is no longer that which we as a society seek anymore and instead choose to live in ignorance doing the things that are hard and accepting the facts is no longer accepted but tate talks abt all this and tbh he's saying what in the bigger picture needs to be said I think anyway as one cannot always have a yes man yes person who tells you what you like to hear and tate will be remembered no matter what and go down in history as another person saying the things that need to be said
I think that is all he ever wanted, the fame. I don't think he cares, or maybe doesn't even believe in the messages he says. I think he just likes the attention. Having said that, it is a bit silly to ban him, when there are far worse personalities out there, but hey.
I hope you sued the lunch box company for that shattering plastic, probably saved people's lives triggering a recall. That's why you disappeared in the story right? Got your own Bugatti from the settlements. Thousand's of people saved from going blind from plastic shards.
@SakaBaka he has nothing to do all day and he still makes 1000x times more money than you and from the looks of it, has an accomplished and satisfying life
Destiny at the end says that its a really weird ban cause it wasnt for anything in particular. However, this is historic moment because its one of the first ideological bans not related directly to the extreme politics such as nazism. This is huge.
he was already banned once off the platform for doing a ton of shit that he easily could have been sued over. banning him in that instance was almost doing him a favor. once you've been banned for something like that admins will be much more trigger happy it's not really hard to understand
Wait doesn’t Tate sleep around with bimbos and constantly brag about his material wealth? Isn’t a big part of his appeal embracing hedonism and ego? How can you be a man of God and promote this? Religious people who talk about God and having the approval of God while living lifestyles that aren’t religious are really frustrating and disturbing.
yeah but many are susceptible to temptation and feel vindicated when their glorified idols give them permission. people believe whatever is most convenient for their lifestyle or their peace of mind
A big part of being a leftist means letting people live their best life. Someone's a trans? Good. Go be trans. Someone's a communist? Good, go be a communist. Someone want to paint a picture of pigs having sex with apricots? Good. It's curious, then that anyone on the left would criticize Tate unless he's been proven in court of having committed a crime.
@@V_Deity Yeah, I feel like I can have a certain respect for someone who lives religious values even if I don’t agree or believe in them, but guys like this are just hypocrites who want the benefit of claiming to be religious and none of the burdens.
Yo, I've been watching Destiny for like two weeks now and I have genuinely no understanding of how this fucking game he's playing works. What is happening, why is it happening, and why am I so fascinated and entertained by it. It perplexes me. Should I continue to live in this self-isolating darkness of unknowing, or can someone fucking explain it to me like you're educating a toddler. Please help or don't.
It's a game called Factorio. In the game you crash-land on a planet with hostile aliens (basically large bugs) that want to kill you. They start off in small waves and progressively get larger and larger. The main game play loop of the game however is slowly progressing through a tech tree where you mine materials build tech and then over time have all that tech interlock with each other to create self manufacturing factories that end up doing most of the things for you. Hence why you see conveyor belts carrying materials everywhere and robotic arms processing those raw materials in usable ore or oil or solar panels etc. You can create railways better guns to kill waves of aliens and traps, the main mission of the game is to build ever more complex factories that over time will unlock more tech. With that tech eventually being able to manufacture a rocket that will allow you to get the hell of the planet you crash-landed on. TL;DR: You crash-land on a dangerous planet and you build factories that over time will allow you to build a rocket to escape the planet where aliens attack you.
@@Dazumu it was based off of a swatting incident. It’s completely false and he talks about in his “final video” that he put up on Vimeo. Unless there’s something I haven’t seen. If you have a link to the investigation I’ll take a look at it and edit this comment.
@@tubecrazy3000 How is it false when the investigation is ongoing? Your entire opinion on this situation is from the point of view of the accused, you dont have the reports from the police, the authorities or the victim. So you have no right to say that his accusations are false.
@@Dazumu Innocent until proven guilty. Therefore its false, as a based AmeriKING I apply that rule to anyone in any country no matter the crime, unless we're talking about a case where its all on video or I was there (in which case 'proven guilty').
No, there is no 'fire.' The majority of people in real life, liberal or conservative, are no where near as cringe and batshit insane as Tate presented himself in his vids. Even the most conservative people I know recognize most of his stuff regarding women, life goals, and masculinity is trash. The trashiness and cringe in his vids was entertaining as hell ngl, but that's about it.
@brop I mean one thing I like about him is his whole spiel about knowing what you want and working your ass off to get it. But guess what? There are literally MILLIONS of better examples of people who've done that without the batshit insane and cringe worldview that comes with Tate. No offense, but if you seriously listen to Tate for anything other than entertainment and trashy guilty pleasure, then I gotta pity you.
@brop ehh longer form of the same thing. It’s kind of like “I’m not racist it’s just that …” and then they give crime rates, and try to rationalize and science his way to making sense of his beliefs. He’ll say things like a “women should obey their husbands”. The longer format would try that if you are a good man a good women would recognized that and she would follow your lead and understand that you make the decisions that will better your lives. But at the end of the day he just wants a women to obey him and do as he wants. He just used the intellectual bs to justify it probably even to himself. When his ideas are played out… just look at videos of him around his “gfs”
I never had this mind set that it wasnt a talent, just lots of practice. It's true. I was drawing every day all day from toddler age. But everyone around me calling it an inate talent got to my head and made me have a complex about losing anything or not being good at stuff from first try. I'm still working on that.
Talent alone isn't enough to be great in an artistic craft, it's just your starting point. At five I was drawing better than all the kids around me. I continued to nurture this through repetition. Drive plays a big part in separating yourself from all the rest.
lol yeah people miss the the point that its desire. i drew all the time and i sucked until until i was a teenager until i found the right tools, but also i never had to “make myself” draw if im not constantly doing it i would go fucking crazy because i need my hands to be moving. and its specific skills that anyone can learn if they just did it, but they dont really want to. lo
He is the creator of his own downfall. The affiliation system on Hustlers University is the #1 reason for his rise online. Almost all of the accounts who repost clips of his on TikTok and TH-cam Shorts do it so that people will sign up to HU through their affiliate link.
What’s really the genius of the system tho… Is that those same people will be creating the negative videos too - he’s playing everyone and he’s handled it amazingly well Everyone knows who he is and nobody feels neutral about him so everyone is talking and sharing content - absolutely nailed it
He's complaining that there are so many clips of him online out of context, yet his hustler "university" literally tells people to post and share clips of him to spread as one of the ways to make money... This is the most false "I'm a victim waaaa" videos I've seen in a long time.
@@Jur1_00 There's a video by a guy Coffeezilla from a few weeks ago who joined and publicly shows what you get as well if you're curious about it. I don't know if he talks specifically about that aspect though.
It's pretty obvious he's not talking about his "students" that are sharing positive clips about motivation and economic success to get others to signup to HU. So it's really not self-victimisation, bad faith take.
"I am a Christian man" -Tate "I'm starting a charitable organization and will be documenting all my donations" - also tate "Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward." -the gospel according to Matthew 6:2 I'm all for Christianity, but not using it as a scapegoat or a shield.
i get what you are saying, but his point is that he wasnt document the charity work he’s doing people would just blow up whatever bad shit he said or did and he would appear all bad, and now he’s doing that so at least people know he’s not just a bad person. dont really like the guy but i dont think he’s documenting his charity work with the purpose of showing off in mind.
I think him donating is totally irrelevant He made his money by dealing drugs casinos, cam sites (abusing weak men) Now with the questionable HU Him donating even a million euros doesnt make him a good person at all.
I disagree with Tate and his messaging quite a lot and perhaps certain extreme/misogynistic things he's insinuated led him to being banned due to ToS. However, on a more personal level, I'm not too sure it's a good thing to start celebrating people being deplatformed simply because they have "disagreeable ideas" especially when what determines an idea to be "disagreeable" differs from person to person. Aside from the more extreme cases like calls to violence, misinformation clearly leading to harm and targeted harassment, I do believe people should be able to disagree in good faith without getting ostracized from every social media platform and doomed to be viewed as an evil horrible person by others who refuse to interact. It seems like we're getting to a point where people are unironically celebrating other people's deplatforming on a personal level while conveniently hiding behind ToS just to avoid encountering any ideas they disagree with.
Agreed, and the same goes for making those false allegations about him. If you’re someone that truly believes Andrew Tate is a sex trafficker, then you’re just delusional and want it to be true, to just amplify and reassure your hatred towards him. It’s ironic how people claim he’s such an evil person, while taking part in making those false allegations with zero proof, and wishing death upon him.
You write that long essay for what reason? It is meaningless and noone will care about it. Move on with your life. 1 week later everyone here will forget about what you wrote and what i replied.
Maybe he wants to make sure people "get the message" (most still probably won't). If people were truly listening to him and what he had to say, he wouldn't be in this position. People hear what they want. Him feeling the need to repeat himself so that his word are not twisted is completely understandable.
@@kiljaeden5405 don't think he needs to do that for "I don't like people making false criminal accusations" there's no room for misunderstanding there, there's no need for that to take 5 minutes of repetition.
If you have been a speaker and had to do a speech. Depending on how your audience looks or the lack of engagement you reiterate points. When it's TH-cam I don't find repeating yourself so strange especially when you want to get certain points across. It also helps as it's submliminal programming. "I am taking full accountability for what has happened to me" "I hold no ill will towards the social media companies or those who hate me" "That is unfair" By repeating those you do start to believe him. He says he is accountable so he must be. He says he holds no ill-will for those who did him so wrong(How noble you think). He says he has been treated unfairly(Based on his narrative I believe it). It's very useful.
I in no way support any of Andrew Tate's philosophy or share his views. But banning is not the solution IMO. We need to discuss and solve the issues that these millions of men are facing all around the globe in dating and especially in regards to the increased loneliness epidemic. There will be another Tate a week/month from now. And then another. And they will only keep on getting worse.
What's worse is Andrew Tate has millions of men who follow them and he always talks about how the system tries to remove strong men and promote weak men, this ban has only confirmed to all these men that what he says is true, it solidifies their belief system.
@@HunterSolo If people are joining his program and choosing to stay, then wouldn’t that imply what they’re learning is worth the money in their opinion? It’s not like someone is holding a gun to their head forcing them to stay. Worse case scenario you pay the $50, and don’t think the information you learned was worth it. That’s literally nothing, that’s the equivalent of working 2-3 hours in the span of a month.
I get so tired of this ancient story of the boy standing up to his bully and then magically transforming into this fully self actualized man. It doesn't work like that. I've seen plenty of guys stand up to the bully and just create extra drama for themselves and end up with far worse problems. Not to mention all the forms of non-physical bullying. The truth is that these things are messy. Sometimes it's on you to stand up for yourself, other times it's on the adults to protect the kids.
Being naturally emotional, and building fortitude is such an advantage. It equips you with compassion and the ability to assert your convictions. Given you obtain the right information for your beliefs and values, it’s very useful
Yes it strikes the perfect balance and can have the pros of both without their cons. For the most part, the biggest con is even trying to work your way up to that level since it will be more difficult then to be completely either side of the fence.
@@macmccloud8171 I see that is misconstruing my greater point. I technically meant someone who is in tune with his emotions and with that ability to be sensible and empathize
There are good male role models but almost all of them are nerfed in liberal circles. Even Destiny despite is an excellent example despite his untraditional lifestyle and dudes on his left side hate him. Every good male influence gets nerfed or is too busy living life.
If you think letting your wife fucked by other men is positive role model playing whole day games and debating about bs is good life nobody would look upto destiny tate has multiple women kickboxing champion he come from Luton on goverment benifits to top many people will relate to that instead of cuckold boy streaming all day
@@Boredasfuck29 you make do with what you got he worked hard took advantage of his skills and lived the life he wanted to as a Christian he is terrible as a male role model but in general he has shown admirable tenacity and strong signs of integrity despite falling short on many occasions and being unnecessarily acerbic.
I didn't believe Tate had such a pure heart until now by the fact that he just told us.... Somehow all the talk about using, manipulating, prostituting woman and hustling those he claims to help lead me to believe something different. Bless this kind man of god.
Adversity is just a small slice of building a strong, reliable human being. Experiencing adversity just reduces your 'panic attack' factor for the next adversity in your life. Sometimes it's a reality check to get shit done and change circumstances. Sacrifice is the major component: working out, getting rid of distractions to study, impulse control, food/diet balance, helping friends and family members with situations where you gain nothing, etc. waging war on instant-gratification and experiencing the fruits of sacrifice/hard work lead to people with strong characteristics.
That comes from you a strong individual at the level of Tate. It is fascinating that theory is put next to data and theory supersedes data to some. Adversity makes you recruit resources you didn't known you have. He is talking of great men, which means sustained pushing for a long time (decades). There is a component of madness and becoming numb to pain at pursuing success. But if you are not being challenged, what you are doing is not going to be great. Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Mick Jagger, Albert Einstein, the most well known have extreme personalities and didn't attend to "diet", "food" "impulse control". Picasso would be days without sleeping well over 50 while dating his 16 yo neighbor
@@narutofan4545 I'm not looking for inspiration. I'm saying exceptional people are strange to the extreme, and not "balanced". A couple of lines and you couldn't get the point, bro
In school we heavily focused on group work and teaching our thought process to our group members. It allowed me to at least understand things a lot more and for some it actually made it worse. It's actually surprising how many high school kids could do some decently hard math and not understand how the process works or what it means. Kinda thankful for my last professor for focusing heavy on understanding why ot how something works.
Adversity is good but only if you have a strong base. That base being your upbringing. So yes they are right when they say adversity is good but realistically a lot of people don't have that foundation to deal with adversity. Thats why a two parent household is so important. Sure there are cases where single parents did a great job but generally thats not how things work out. Tate says he was raised by a single mother but he still had a lot of influence from his dad in his life. That is clear by the stories he tells about him.
Unless if they are women because women have easier lives than men they are better at facing adversity since they will have better up bringings in modern society.
I understand and agree to an extent. But, ultimately I can’t support this stance. It’s too much of a cop out for failing. Everyone has the potential to make it, but most won’t. But, you should still try.
You realize kids growing up in single parent households typically face far more adversity? Most of them in the grand scheme of things come out ok That said, if there's one thing they become very accustomed to, it's dealing with adversity. It's typically those who come from stable households where typically everything goes their way, who have the major meltdowns when faced with something not going their way. AT least in my experience.
In the Military and in special operations they put you in adverse situations and make you figure it out. This builds the mental fortitude needed to survive at war. Unlike these modern day soldiers we did not get stress/safe cards to protect us because the drill instructors would yell at us.
Lulz ikr calling women property and making millions of males turn into sexists in action for the past month was so funny. Let's do it with black people next. Who's going to go on twitch and start saying black people should be property, lets go guys we need another great saga on the internet! Oh wait I forgot, no one would stand for that for even a day. Weird how there's such a double standard despite women having a far greater history of actually being property, and making up the largest slave trade in the world as we speak. But what else is new. I'm glad this was just a fun saga to watch for you. For some of us it isn't just an internet saga.
@@wa-bu3ke He literally did say that because I saw it with my own eyes live on Adin's stream so...Feel free to present an actual counter argument whenever you're ready, sport.
No matter what you believe, people should not be banned for their opinions. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If you think someone has bad ideas then put them out in the open.
I do agree but the problem is that he mainly aims his lessons to kids/young men and kids/young men don't care about common sense so even debunking their beliefs won't work on them.
Agree and disagree. Platforms and companies should be able to ban specific individuals from their platforms if they want to according to their terms of services. Governments however, should not be able to ban people this way. If companies like Facebook, Twitter or TH-cam feel that a person like Andrew Tate hurts their image and ultimately, their bottom line, they should be able to ban him as long as the reasons are unrealted to the law. (For example, if you want to ban someone based on discrimination that obviously should be prohibited) I don't think Sunlight is a very good disinfectant. In some cases it works, in other cases it wont. To some people, having bad ideas represented in society is confirmation that they are good ideas. I hate to say this, but I've lost faith in human reason long ago. I don't believe most people are rational beings or very intelligent at all. For this reason, I believe alot of people are susceptible to their own biases and inability to reason. If Sunlight was the best disinfectant we never should have seen Nazi germany rise right? Didn't seem to work at all. It doesn't matter if 99% of people can view Tate after all this scrutiny and deduct that he's a fool. In the end, there will still be 1% left who're immune to that logic who will succumb to his principles. Is banning him the solution? In some cases, maybe. In some cases, probably not. But then again, I still think corporations and their platforms should be able to ban him from their platforms. It's basically like saying that he's not welcome into their property.
@@henrikswanstrom9218 but that’s where i find the hypocrisy, these companies ban Tate for the dumbass statements he makes, but then leave other creators alone despite those other creators spreading dumbass takes as well. That’s the type of shit that reinforces the support of those Tate fanboys.
I’ve never seen evidence of this supposed “sunlight is the best disinfectant” meme, anything it seems like the ‘sunlight’ of social media caused all the horrid opinions to spread farther and wider than ever before. That being said, I still don’t necessarily support banning him
I think Destiny lowkey agrees with a lot of underlying red pill ideology, but feels obligated to push back due to the associated misogynistic undertones. When there is an RP influencer focused more on rhetoric and logic, it will be hard to counter. Imagine if someone like Tate came along that didn't say misogynistic takes, didn't have the baggage, and didn't advocate for cheating. Would be unstoppable.
Destiny already explained this. Redpill rethoric always starts with a bit of truth, and then goes into completely bonkers conclusions. (For example: men and women are biologically different. Everyone can agree with this. Therefore, women need to stay home and men should always provide. It's a bait and switch (hope i'm using that term correctly lmao)). But that's not just due to a lack of skilled communicators, that's the whole point.
So what's left about redpill at that point? It seems like we are talking about some kind of deep truth no one is willing to aknowledge, when in reality we are pretty much talking about some men's problems that definetely need to be addressed more in society to avoid the pitfalls of disperity some young guys fall into because of their lack of partner or social skills in general. Of course we should talk more about these issues, but I'm sure that the whole redpill thing didn't start when a dude wrote a forum post on the internet talking about his troubles in society, it's more likely it became a thing when a bunch of 20 years olds started pinpointing everyone of their personal problems on women and what feminism did to society.
I really don't think so. A lot of shit these guys say runs totally contradictory to everything Destiny believes. Just watch how he talked with Aba about them. They have a fundamentaly different view of the world. I'd say it is the exact opposite. Destiny disagrees with the underlying ideology but can find some common ground on a few issues.
@@maxwellsdemon10 dude respectfully to destiny, but he aint normal dude in general lol Hes kind of weird in the spectrum of normal ppl experiences. Thats why a lot of ppl like aba even tho he agreed a lot of stuff with destiny if he wanted to recommend role model not gonna point them to him.
It's difficult because I want to take tate seriously, but all his talk of being a force for good in the world seems kind of moot when he was clearly running a pyramid scheme that preyed on insecure men with hustler's university. also holy shit the "me or nobody" stuff is so unnerving.
@@jacobspeedrunchannel1893 if the people below are paying in, and that’s paying the people above, and the business exists to teach people how to make money, I’d call it a pyramid scheme, even if it’s not the sort of promised returns deal that Madoff did.
@@Dzillarable people are free to opt out of a pyramid scheme too what? You just lose money they don't hold you hostage. And look, if you're the leader of an "affiliate marketting scheme" and you're saying stuff like "look if you can't spare $50 every month you're not going anywhere" "there's nowhere else to go" etc. He also guarantees you'll get rich if you stick with HU. And look, perhaps you still think none of that is enough to say he's scamming people. Ok. At the very least, he's preying on people who wish they had a better life. And for doing that, he's a shitty guy, and I find it difficult to accept his video as sincere.
@@jamesbuckley972 Get a grip? Somebody must not like Destiny. He describes himself as progressive and on the left. Why isn’t Destiny on the left to you? Has he said something that hurt your feelings?
@@rafiqjennings5262 pretty sure I seen him say multiple times he’s relatively neutral when it comes to aligning your self with political parties which is pretty fuckin stupid in the first place
@38:14. Destiny's position on men talking to their close friends shows he was never involved in men's spaces. The internet is compounding the problem of men's mental health because people's friends are on the internet. In men's spaces like the military, athletics, or your small group of neighborhood friends men are willing console each other. The reason is when a group of men struggle together to accomplish goals it creates a bond.
Exactly. As someone in the military with mental health struggles, daily life sucks for us a lot of the time, but most of the notorious suicide numbers actually happen after people get out. While the life can suck at times, I have tons of people (mostly men), who can relate to me and I can talk to at the drop of a hat. In the civilian world, people sometimes can’t relate to those experiences. I found similar parallels growing up, in sports, religious communities, family/friend groups, etc, where I mainly interacted with communities of men. My guess is that internet gaming or debate world or whatever maybe just doesn’t have this, so he’s not exposed to it.
I told my friend to take a shot everytime tate says he is the most famous person. We are now in the e.r and not sure if he is going to make it and we still got an hour and a half to go with this video.
i hardly disagree with Destiny on his depression/improvement point. the more excuses you can find the less likely you are to do something about your shitty life, "i didnt choose my school, i didn't choose my friends, i was raised in a single parent household etc ... , no wonder i'm depressed, nothing to do now to improve my shitty life" how is this take gonna help a depressed teenager?
Exactly. One thing I liked that SNEAKO pointed about him and Aba is their borderline advocacy for complacency. I understand his point, but it’s such a cop out for people to be losers. Everyone has the capability to make it, but most won’t. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try. P.S. Destiny became a famous streamer despite the odds.
No, the most likely you will understand why you are in the position ur a in "why i am so sad?" well because you have shitty parents, "oh.. Now i get it and i can work on that to improve myself and try to get out of this shitty situation" You need to understand that depression is a disease, and like any other disease you need to understand the causes to be able to get better. Teens have a lot of stuff going on specially in this era where information is bombarded to them, is not easy stuff. Dont confuse understandment with excuses.
The short answer is that sometimes the shame of failing to live up to the expectations, whether of your family/peers or yourself, is the biggest hurdle. Accepting that there are circumstances outside your control that have a major impact on your life allows you to forgive yourself and break the mentality that you are a failure.
@@eleannakritikaki4811 not a fan of his but he is in the ‘genius’ levels of iq and worth 100’s of millions of dollars, big words or small words he’s better then us
@@tqd2008 sure man but according to whom (the IQ)? Himself? As far as money goes, you do not need to be intellectual to be rich and popular (or a populist). We don't measure IQ with money, for a reason
Why is this man, who is a top G, who is a genius and, the most influential man on the planet, with an iron mind to boot, repeating himself word for fucking word?
Maybe because after being misrepresented so much that he has received death threats, he feels the need to make sure it gets across completely. ? Sorry that you don't get that since you're not actually an intellectual but just a mindless sheep.
It is important to defend yourself from physical aggression however I think the message is more that you need to control yourself until it is necessary to do otherwise. A real man acts for others and not himself unless it is absolutly necessary to do so
This. Until about 3 months ago I hadn’t had a scrap since I was late teens early 20’s (probs 15-20 year) but just before Xmas I was attacked by two guys in ballys in the woods… smashed them both and sent them on their way You NEED to be dangerous but be in control of it or you’re useless to yourself and those around you when it’s needed
His final message was pretty opposite what he always spouts. He literally said he doesn't believe in depression and these guys need to suck it up. Now he acts like he's the amazing speaker on men's mental health? He was there to make money and nothing else, dude was incredibly hateful in all of his messaging and is trying to act like none of that happened now lol
That's disingenuous. Because there has been multiple dimensions to the things has has done and he has been open about it. All you have done was conflated the fact he wants to make money and also help other make money in a nonconventional way that you may not agree with, that now you can make a moral assertion of his motives. That's like saying drs are bad people because ultimately most people go into medicine for the financial earnings part so their secondary wanting to aid people with medicine is Invalid. Stop making fallacious claims.
He has said in the past that mental health issues are real but should never be used as an excuse. Like “I can’t go to the gym because of x” no, you can go to the gym. There is no obstruction but yourself in scenarios when it comes to deciding to do what’s good for you. Of course there’s debilitating illness but let’s be real... 99% of the people you hear saying they can’t do x because of a mental illness are CHOOSING not too. I had a psychosis that lasted about 3 years. Completely insane delusions that were powerful. Paranoia. Couldn’t go out. I hated it. One day I looked in the mirror and said enough. Put myself in the gym, healed my mind without drugs, made new friends and reconnected with old ones now I have my name on a lease along with 3 other close friends. Making moves and growing all because I kept it real with myself. Tate’s whole message when it comes to self improvement and depression/mental illness is this... keeping it real and holding yourself accountable to the absolute highest degree.
@@kadeemb3 He said this, and I quote, "Depression isn't real." It's the hypocritical nature of him that makes me feel he doesn't believe what he's saying. The way he was speaking in this final message is not what gained him so much virality.
Hearing someone say over and over how happy they are and how their life is perfect like 2 dozen times in the same videos is the best way to confirm that neither of those two things are true and being banned off these platforms has REALLY affected him.
Actually don’t understand how you can say it’s not a question of whether he hates women or a question of his view of how people should be in society…. He has beaten women, joked about rape and talked about how women can’t fight and they are a waste of space if they are just a vessel for babies. He has talked about how he will beat a womens face until it falls off and then rape her. This is hatred and disgusting. This is not just thinking women should be house wives and even that is disgusting
@@off6848 I think you're referring to the video of the blonde women. There was another video of a brown haired women where he was making her count her bruises and she had to hide into the bathroom to get away from him. Have you seen that one? I have yet to get an answer about who leaked those videos in the first place
"You are all but guaranteed to land a job if you graduate college, unless you have some crazy liberal arts degree." This just isn't true, at least not with associates degrees. I've known people with graphic design, IT, business, programming degrees that either could land nothing relevant or if they did it was bottom of the barrel barely worth it for the pay jobs that both offered no opportunity for advancement and didn't help their resume when trying for somewhere better. The job market can be a very rough place depending on where you live, who's hiring or not hiring, and what field you're trying to break into. It's not as simple as go to college -> get job -> make enough to comfortable live. It can be brutal, especially if you don't have a bachelors degree.
I mean, anecdotally sure, but those degrees are valuably and most people should be able to find work with them. Yo also have to understand that your speaking to an Associates Degree
He needs to say it over and over again because he believes people are misrepresenting his outlook. It’s harder to make an out of context clip when the snippet says the context over and over again.
@@xenmaster2203 I can't prove it (and nobody actually can), but I'm 90% certain he speaks like that, because he has some talking points wrote down or memorised and is returning to them over and over and over again, when he is rambling. Like the "most famous person in the world" (which is extremely delusional and hilarious at the same time). He doesn't say that to clarify his position, he does it because it's a memorised talkingpoint.
Tate acts like he only talks about men's issues then turns around and says women "innately have no responsibility or honour unlike guys" Honestly the popular stuff you hear about it him isn't as bad as is gets, he says some really bad stuff
destiny bro, about adversity he even says thats why you should joining a combat sport, or a sport in general. he has said verbatim men should do something difficult
I can't get over how often he feels the need to point out how famous he is. I don't think anyone I know who doesn't use social media all that much has ever heard of him.
They are paraphrasing every time he has insinuated that he isn't effected by what other people say or think, but goes onto say he does care because... it effects people around him. Maybe you missed that.
I don’t know if I like destiny’s take on guys not being emotional around each other, if he’s comparing it to how girls are emotional then I’d agree but what I see between guy friends is like when there’s an issue they just got to straight problem solving mode. We might not break down and cry but we still communicate. When I was in college, every weekend I’d go sit out on our front porch and have my roommates, whoever was free, to come out and just talk about what’s up, give each other some life advice and an outer perspective.
In my experience it has been the opposite. When i open up to women they quickly go in to problem solving mode, sometimes without even hearing all the facts. However when talking about my issues with my guy friends they just listen, they don't provide much advice but they don't need to. Just to be able to get stuff off our chests was good enough.
@@jsgdk it’s not true. These men just don’t know how to interact with women. All the women I know (including me) only date guys who are in touch with their emotions. Nobody wants to date someone who cannot communicate their feelings in a mature relationship
@@ceejay1476 calling women females is just insulting because it’s kind of dehumanizing. when a guy says “females do this” or “you females”, immediately I don’t give them any chance.
I would agree that conservatives don't hate women, but the way women should engage in society in their world view's, generally, is pretty fucked. I will also say that Andrew Tate took his literal best takes and clips for this video, as we all know. So, when he sits there and trys to frame his more stable takes as the entirety of his rhetoric or message when we all know the crazy shit this man has said, is kinda wild. The fact that he said he champions and protects women whilst on a few different occassions talked explicitly about beating women is even wilder. I think if Andrew Tate dialed it back and was the person he portrayed himself to be in this last video, he would have been fine.
Your views are based on clips that were taken out of context. He has never encouraged people beating women. Also, what do you find wrong on the conservative view of women. The liberal view is to let them do whatever they want without taking any accountability.
He is not concern about the ban, he is addressing the fake news why he got banned, all those new bits have zero sources, and only took snippets and edited clips which comes mostly from tiktok.
he pedals back now...he's videos are misogynistic and youngers take he's messages seriously, many young confused kids tuck 'women are propriety" of his messages...
@@DougDepker lvl1 response. what a debater mind response. you invalidate the comment by assuming a inexperience of the sayer (ad hom as you shift to critque of the person you dont know about) . destiny always uses this technique to win the audience - to make the audience feel like he is the right one without even making a point, you hear him always in relationship advices saying "sounds like something someone who has never had girlfriend would say" or in litterally every other topic.
@@DougDepker That is absolute nonsense. Adversity IS the crucible in which a person is tempered. But the issues are the same as with forging steel. Too much heat/adversity and the steel breaks, too little and it doesn't temper correctly. The issue is that there is no correct level of adversity for everyone, but everyone needs some level of adversity in their life.
I think the “Romanian corruption” thing he was talking about is more about minor things like speeding tickets, false metoo accusations, and other civil stuff, not current Sex crimes being ignored.
Not really, I live near Romania, and can tell you that with the right amount of money, you can cover even crimes like grape and ending someone. If you have millions to grease the system, you are like a God there. Truly one of the most corrupt continues on the Planet.
@@jaykay2218 I think you overestimate how many people actually do go as far as to write E-mails but hey I wouldn't be able to tell you since I can't find good info on this
When you listen to the lunchbox story, remember this… he tried asking his parent for support, and he got the message “you’re on your own, deal with it yourself” as a 5 year old. When he was violent, he was rewarded for it.
@@slylockfox85 Probably because your brain isn't fully developed , when you are an adult you might understand. Don't worry we were all children once :)
Because people doesn't get things, you need kept telling them points, so they will not get out of context ( it;'s rly good frome him, even destiny is aknowledge that )
I think he is conflating popularity with notoriety. Or maybe I am? Like, I am sure Hitler has / had a ton of google search traffic.. but I think most sane people wouldn’t say “Hitler is popular” they’d call him notorious or infamous. He uses “google searches” as his reasoning which is hilarious, I’ve googled him, so have a lot of people I know, because google was needed to know who this guy was, I still despise him, so my search, and I am sure many others, have zero impact on his “popularity”, they only contribute to his notoriety.
Jesus i actually thought I rewound a few times because tate will say the same things over and over word for word. It feels like he is a college student trying to stretch out an essay by filling it with random shit
Not gonna lie, it’s a little ironic for Andrew Tate to be complaining so much about people clipping his videos out of context, when that is his entire business model. People join Hustlers University, then they clip him, and get others to join his Hustlers University, and then they get a cut. It’s an MLM. Those people clipping him have an insensitive to choose the more controversial stuff he says, because more people are going to see it.
Yeah I've found it odd he's just left all that out to make a video saying he's great. Also him saying other people aren't as successful as him because they aren't as good while running an MLM and a service designed to profit off of other people with minimal assistance and basic advice in a service that's really all about him.
The stuff about Tate looking to craft his message perfectly so he can't be taken out of context reminds me of a certain person. Let's see how that goes 😂
He's basically doing the "Oh it's just a joke bro. If you didn't watch the entire 4 hour podcast you wouldn't know the exact context and that means you don't know what I really meant." Remember "it's just a prank bro?", well now people use it to dismiss stupid shit they've said by saying "It's just a joke bro lol quite being so serious when I say women are bitches and terrible drivers."
Thank you Destiny for being a voice of reason, I hope you will have the opportunity to push back on tatesque contradictory views in a fair and appealing manner.
This hive mind is unreal. The moment Destiny stops talking, twitch chat starts hating on Andrew Tate, the moment Destiny starts expressing anything positive about Andrew Tate, the whole chat just suddenly spams W Tate. God I really dislike sheep that moves with the wave, to feel included.
As a British guy, I have never been able to understand Andrew Tate's accent. He's like, American with a cockney inflection on 3 out of every ten words he says
Well he is an american who lived in luton so there is the reason😀
@@mihajlovucinic011 I've heard Americans who move over here. They sound American
@@TimbahOnToast with age (time), the accent blends with the place they live in. Unless of course people know how their accent works and what to do, to not loose it.
I didn’t even realize he had an English accent until it was pointed out. I straight up thought he was American
@@ImOriginallyGreen he is American. He moved to Britain at a young age.
“Tons of people were bullied and still end up being losers”
I feel personally attacked
It’s super true tho, some people can’t get through certain adversity. I think you grow the most during hard times but some people can’t cope with those environments
@@C1umsyJester then those people are not worthy of life. if you cant grow. youre weak
My bad man, should have taken it down a level on you
yeah when your parents are the one bullying you, it's kind of hard to conquer that adversity.
I feel like this is an obvious statement and shouldnt be mentioned as the more important statement should be keep fighting even if it leads to nothing in the end.
"The andrew tate that he exists as now, couldn't have been created by an andrew tate video"
Most his follow are the hustle kids lol most likely doing the bullying 😂😂😂
The spot in the video with this quote should be a Short or a TikTok. It will go viral.
@@Acaran All Destiny needs is Noel Deyzel style tiktok direction and he'll be on top of the world.
There are no videos that's going to help one's build his whole existence giving him a plan to follow. Everyone's going through their own particular jouney. Tate just giving out the bases : don't enjoy comfort too munch and seek adversity to become a capable individual, your mind is the only thing you have total control of, etc.
@@regista9092 and women are property
Destiny's point about people being exceptional at certain skills and being horrible teachers is extremely true. It's a completely different skill to communicate. Anyone who has gone through any upper division education is painfully aware of this.
@@One-uq1ot no it’s not. It’s common knowledge that extremely smart people are terrible about communicating their ideas or making people understand advanced topics. Teaching is just as much of a skill as anything else.
@@One-uq1ot you do know teaching is a skill as well, my cousin is a mechanic and I asked him to teach me how to service my car... it took 4 hours for him to tell me how to change the oil.. and that's a fraction of servicing a car
It should be more obvious considering there is something we are all total experts in: our native language. Just because I know English to an extremely high degree (relative to an ESL beginner) doesn't mean I could teach it properly to somebody.
Hell, anyone who's heard a politician talk should know the opposite is certainly true.
@@One-uq1ot There's a whole ass degree, masters, and PHD/ doctorate of education just in education. WITH specializations in different industry such as medicine, public health, special ed, engineering, all different sciences and social sciences as well as liberal arts, among plethora of others. It is absolutely true.
The issue with banning Tate is that it reaffirms his ideas about the System bringing down "strong" men, he will probably bounce back with a stronger resolve about his views
Thats a self fulfilling cycle then, of course he’d eventually be banned from all the clips that he has going around. I’m absolutely sure it breaks some kind of ToS.
If that gets him banned and then that reaffirms his view then there’s nothing that can really be done.
Nope. When people get deplatformed, their reach and influence decreases. He will reach fewer people regardless of how strongly he believes whatever the hell he believes. There is no level 100 stat for complaining about "the system". It's a 10 point stat at best.
@@paskowitz Ask Alex Jones if his influence decreased. If anything, his influence skyrocketed after he was banned. Andrew Tate will be the same
Idk the internet forgets people in weeks, unless someone else is able to take up the mantle as a new Tate his legacy won't be remebered for long
It is strange that they all collectivly perma banned. No body ever did that to anybody (maybe there is, Alex Jones?). No pentalties, no warnings, no strikes. If we draw equivalence to IRL, banning someone in IRL would be putting them in prison, right? What they did to him is basically death sentence. They could strike him, make him moderate content, remove problematic videos. There are channel that only post his gym, kickboxing and fittnes advices and they are getting remove even though there is literally 0 talk about woman.
Destiny is a good teacher. except for league, food, working out, monogamous relationships or anything in general Kappa
This
True
yet you keep coming back like a sucker lmao
Facts. He's a beta and no true example to be looked up to
@@UsernamerAlreadyTakn if you use the word beta or alpha your beta lol
One of the best teachers I've ever seen is Daniel Naroditsky - if you ever want to learn chess this is where to go. The reason he's so good is that he literally takes notes and studies his students to learn how they think, because he knows his GM brain is just different at this point. He basically always predicts the bad move a lower rated player will make.
I'm trying to take chess more seriously. Thanks for this.
Daniel naroditsky is a top G
Naroditsky is the best!
@@jiimmyyy Not sure your level but another amazing resource is Chess Network, specifically his beginner to chess master series. It took me from about 1150 to 1500 in maybe a month. If I was to recommend content, I'd say watch as much of that series as you can stomach and then watch Naroditsky's speedruns probably a few hundred elo above you, should catapult your rating
Every chess player does that who’s decent. I do like Naroditsky though.
It's sad how many people believe bettering yourself means being exceptional. Not everyone can be the greatest in a certain field. But you can be the best YOU you can be. You can live a good happy life. You don't have to be on the top.
Yeah people think self improvement is being better than the guy next to you. But what it really is, is being better than the guy YOU were yesterday
Wrong. If you dont win then you are a loser. #2 is the first loser.
you need pride in yourself and the arrogance that you’ll commit to yourself and sacrifice what is necessary to be the best person, people take pleasure in being better then others it’s unrealistic to think everybody should think this way, What if the “best you” that you believe is just a even worse version of you but you can’t realize it Because you subscribed to this philosophy of not caring what others think?
@@bigdadybojangls9219 but humans are creatures who compare themselves. If you don't feel shitty everyday (in a good way) competitivness will grow you 10x faster
This is what most people lose sight of. The race is against ourselves.
Honestly, when he drops the clown routine he's infinitely more tolerable. I just worry there's a generation of people who are carrying the worst parts of his message into adulthood. Sure he was the most viewed person in the world, but it wasn't for his long form content, which is why he says he's misunderstood. That's something he should be acknowledging.
u should be more worried what kind of generation hasan etc is emerging with hi clown takes
I’ve listened to Tate’s long form stuff and I really don’t think he’s all that misunderstood. He kind of just says what he thinks. Granted, some of his jokes have been clipped and used out of context, but much of it is just him. Claiming to get rich is easy for anyone and you’re just lazy if you can’t do it. What he’s said about programming women, which are just very messed up ways to manipulate people. The ways he says he’s earned money, casino’s (gambling), cam girls, drop shipping, Hustle Uni etc… money through using or fooling the weak, ignorant, naive or vulnerable and calling it value.
@@Ubreakable-lr2dk nah, Hasan is dumb and says some shit things, but Tate has toxic views that are harmful to young men who adopt them. His view of women is very dark.
Who fn cares. But vaush and Hasan can exist and not only poison young minds, but lie about it, their too far down that hole to break character. Fake mfrs. F this lil fist humpers, the internet is a big scary place, all these young boys should have their parents more involved or they'll grow out of being in awe of a bald guy who has supercars, if not, they're autistic or aspies,, which wouldn't shock me. Appreciate you being concerned about an andrew tate. You're such a hero. Almost a voice for zoomer dipshits or the balance for new generation - genBeta. If you're so concerned, maybe you should be the new voice for this lost new generation, since the baldguybad is so scary. You can call it @2guysonehorse, kind of like you and vaush, only you'll be by yourself.
He's still an idiot, full of anecdotes to suit his narrative, but I agree.
Wonder why he's appearing respectful and composed here and not shirtless, smoking a cigar, with sunglasses on.
Andrew Tate truly helped me realize that I'm the master of my own Destiny is a girl's name.
Ok what does the last part have to do with anything it's the equivalent of "but your bald"
BEYYTTAAA
@@tolentheking1852 "destiny is a girl's name" is just a running joke in the community
I’m of two minds on this.
One is that Tate isn’t gonna go away. The spotlight right now is on him and he has the name recognition and money to find a workaround to this.
The second is more complicated. Even if Tate doesn’t come back there’s a power vacuum that’s been established that will inevitably be filled, particularly by someone with tates appeal and ideology with just a bit more tact. This happened with Zoe Burgher, the original skimpy gamer girl. She pushed the evelope enough to fail, but future streamers learned from her mistakes and that’s why Twitch is as borderline softcore pron as it is today.
One of the things I don’t see people talk about is the way Tate presents himself. He has all the things that’s his target audience wants and that’s what compels them to follow his lifestyle and ideology. To get that “tangible” path to success. In this social media oriented era people aren’t satisfied with an ordinary lifestyle that they see as mundane or boring.
I see people say that his audience will eventually grow and mature out of it and yeah that’s a possibility. But that involves interacting with the outside world and we’re seeing more and more people receded into the internet and develop anti social tendencies or mimic their own online personalities. And the maturity levels can very depending on when in your life that you had access to these kinds of apps like TH-cam,Instagram, and TikTok. How many adults have we seen act a third of their age nowadays? Far too many.
Going back to what I was saying about the second thought is that there needs to be an antithesis to Tate. Someone with his charisma, material items, and can be successful with women. Just with the opposite message than him. That will get their attention unfortunately because even if it came from someone as cool as Destiny, they’re not gonna take it seriously.
It sucks but presentation is key, especially nowadays.
Nice summary, i'd just disagree that Destiny is cool. Maybe if he didn't have a woman's name.
@@TheGamestars And he likes blah beebol too !
That was such a good analysis. Thank you
well he just ended a live of 130k people watching his live the ban just push his name out there
No matter what people want to believe, everyone would rather be an Andrew tate than a destiny, and I mean, if all you see is the BS ppl perpetuate BCS if they don't agree with his methods or things he says, then they miss out on much of what tate says that appeals to people the truth the facts stuff we as a society no longer speak on BCS for any number of reasons the truth is no longer that which we as a society seek anymore and instead choose to live in ignorance doing the things that are hard and accepting the facts is no longer accepted but tate talks abt all this and tbh he's saying what in the bigger picture needs to be said I think anyway as one cannot always have a yes man yes person who tells you what you like to hear and tate will be remembered no matter what and go down in history as another person saying the things that need to be said
I just want a Supercut of everytime Tate says he is the most famous man in the world in this video
I think that is all he ever wanted, the fame. I don't think he cares, or maybe doesn't even believe in the messages he says. I think he just likes the attention. Having said that, it is a bit silly to ban him, when there are far worse personalities out there, but hey.
@@pokedon92 He's literally living what he talks, what do you mean he doesn't believe what he says?
@@justinr1513 when he talks about how he cares about young men, and wants to be a role model for them.
I'm so glad he made sure we all knew he's the most famous man on the planet.
I must have missed that because of all the times he talked about how embarrassed he was to mention all the charities he donates to.
TH-cam may have sealed his Andrew Fate but it’s not too Andrew Late for Andrew Tate to find an Andrew Mate
Can’t believe I laughed at this
This is such an Andrew bait
Andrew Wait.
@@Balls_on_Chin it wasn’t very Andrew Great
@@Balls_on_Chin aahaa
Dude that guy hit me in the face with a lunchbox one time when I was a kid!
Good
Can confirm, I was the bus drivers water bottle
I hope you sued the lunch box company for that shattering plastic, probably saved people's lives triggering a recall. That's why you disappeared in the story right? Got your own Bugatti from the settlements. Thousand's of people saved from going blind from plastic shards.
Don't take it personally, that's just how he got new lunchboxes.
you deserved it
"And I never saw him again."
Wait, did he kill that other kid? Get this man's record unsealed!
I heard he got a huge settlement. Biggest lunch box recall in history.
I think the bus drivers water bottle is in here somewhere.
He got human trafficked.
he has no criminal record.
At least Destiny had the time and energy to go through this and give it a fair analysis much credit
He didn't analyze it that much Tbh
@SakaBaka he has nothing to do all day and he still makes 1000x times more money than you and from the looks of it, has an accomplished and satisfying life
@@yami2227 It would be stupid if he didn't make any money by pimping girls and from his casinos.
@@BreakRaven what? The original commenter is talking about destiny, then this guy said "he has no life". We're not talking about Tate
Facts though
Destiny at the end says that its a really weird ban cause it wasnt for anything in particular. However, this is historic moment because its one of the first ideological bans not related directly to the extreme politics such as nazism. This is huge.
Trump was for nazism??
he was already banned once off the platform for doing a ton of shit that he easily could have been sued over. banning him in that instance was almost doing him a favor. once you've been banned for something like that admins will be much more trigger happy it's not really hard to understand
and ideological bans are 90% of the time bad and used as means of supression. cutting tounges doesn't help anything at all.
Destiny’s mind works at the speed of a teenager’s, but with the experience of an 80 year old. It’s hard to accept we’re the same age.
Yeah I don’t agree with everything he says (same as RP’ers) but he’s a VERY intelligent guy and a diligent researcher
"With great influence comes absolutely and utterly great responsibility"
~Spoderman 47:19
Machoman
@@cristianproust inshallah bro
Wait doesn’t Tate sleep around with bimbos and constantly brag about his material wealth? Isn’t a big part of his appeal embracing hedonism and ego? How can you be a man of God and promote this? Religious people who talk about God and having the approval of God while living lifestyles that aren’t religious are really frustrating and disturbing.
Anyone who pulls the God card is spiritually devoid and shouldn't be taken seriously. So glad someone else pointed this out in the best way possible.
yeah but many are susceptible to temptation and feel vindicated when their glorified idols give them permission. people believe whatever is most convenient for their lifestyle or their peace of mind
A big part of being a leftist means letting people live their best life. Someone's a trans? Good. Go be trans. Someone's a communist? Good, go be a communist. Someone want to paint a picture of pigs having sex with apricots? Good. It's curious, then that anyone on the left would criticize Tate unless he's been proven in court of having committed a crime.
@@V_Deity Yeah, I feel like I can have a certain respect for someone who lives religious values even if I don’t agree or believe in them, but guys like this are just hypocrites who want the benefit of claiming to be religious and none of the burdens.
@@Seri-dy5dd god told me to buy this private jet
Yo, I've been watching Destiny for like two weeks now and I have genuinely no understanding of how this fucking game he's playing works. What is happening, why is it happening, and why am I so fascinated and entertained by it. It perplexes me. Should I continue to live in this self-isolating darkness of unknowing, or can someone fucking explain it to me like you're educating a toddler. Please help or don't.
Me too, I had no idea who he was like a month ago
Destiny to become next Andrew Tate.
who actually looks at the games lmao
It's a game called Factorio. In the game you crash-land on a planet with hostile aliens (basically large bugs) that want to kill you. They start off in small waves and progressively get larger and larger.
The main game play loop of the game however is slowly progressing through a tech tree where you mine materials build tech and then over time have all that tech interlock with each other to create self manufacturing factories that end up doing most of the things for you.
Hence why you see conveyor belts carrying materials everywhere and robotic arms processing those raw materials in usable ore or oil or solar panels etc.
You can create railways better guns to kill waves of aliens and traps, the main mission of the game is to build ever more complex factories that over time will unlock more tech. With that tech eventually being able to manufacture a rocket that will allow you to get the hell of the planet you crash-landed on.
TL;DR: You crash-land on a dangerous planet and you build factories that over time will allow you to build a rocket to escape the planet where aliens attack you.
I’ve repeated the whole “he’s a sex trafficker” line before, but then after looking in to it realised there’s literally zero evidence for it.
Yep same.
Its an on going investigation.
@@Dazumu it was based off of a swatting incident. It’s completely false and he talks about in his “final video” that he put up on Vimeo. Unless there’s something I haven’t seen. If you have a link to the investigation I’ll take a look at it and edit this comment.
@@tubecrazy3000 How is it false when the investigation is ongoing? Your entire opinion on this situation is from the point of view of the accused, you dont have the reports from the police, the authorities or the victim. So you have no right to say that his accusations are false.
@@Dazumu Innocent until proven guilty. Therefore its false, as a based AmeriKING I apply that rule to anyone in any country no matter the crime, unless we're talking about a case where its all on video or I was there (in which case 'proven guilty').
Tate was just the medium for a fire already lit. He was never the fire, just a representative of it.
^This is true and is just a matter of time before someone else will fill up that vacuum.
“Have we started the fire?” “Yes! The fire rises.”
No, there is no 'fire.' The majority of people in real life, liberal or conservative, are no where near as cringe and batshit insane as Tate presented himself in his vids. Even the most conservative people I know recognize most of his stuff regarding women, life goals, and masculinity is trash. The trashiness and cringe in his vids was entertaining as hell ngl, but that's about it.
@brop I mean one thing I like about him is his whole spiel about knowing what you want and working your ass off to get it. But guess what? There are literally MILLIONS of better examples of people who've done that without the batshit insane and cringe worldview that comes with Tate. No offense, but if you seriously listen to Tate for anything other than entertainment and trashy guilty pleasure, then I gotta pity you.
@brop ehh longer form of the same thing. It’s kind of like “I’m not racist it’s just that …” and then they give crime rates, and try to rationalize and science his way to making sense of his beliefs. He’ll say things like a “women should obey their husbands”. The longer format would try that if you are a good man a good women would recognized that and she would follow your lead and understand that you make the decisions that will better your lives. But at the end of the day he just wants a women to obey him and do as he wants. He just used the intellectual bs to justify it probably even to himself. When his ideas are played out… just look at videos of him around his “gfs”
As someone who draws with some talent to do so, I can tell you I've had a pencil in my hand for as long as I can remember.
Same, people who don't draw often assume it's all talent, but I've never met an actual artist who sees themselves that way.
I never had this mind set that it wasnt a talent, just lots of practice. It's true. I was drawing every day all day from toddler age. But everyone around me calling it an inate talent got to my head and made me have a complex about losing anything or not being good at stuff from first try. I'm still working on that.
Talent alone isn't enough to be great in an artistic craft, it's just your starting point. At five I was drawing better than all the kids around me. I continued to nurture this through repetition. Drive plays a big part in separating yourself from all the rest.
lol yeah people miss the the point that its desire. i drew all the time and i sucked until until i was a teenager until i found the right tools, but also i never had to “make myself” draw if im not constantly doing it i would go fucking crazy because i need my hands to be moving. and its specific skills that anyone can learn if they just did it, but they dont really want to. lo
True, I always tell people that they can draw too if they spent as much time as I have doing it. It’s not something I was born with.
He is the creator of his own downfall. The affiliation system on Hustlers University is the #1 reason for his rise online. Almost all of the accounts who repost clips of his on TikTok and TH-cam Shorts do it so that people will sign up to HU through their affiliate link.
Exactly
What’s really the genius of the system tho…
Is that those same people will be creating the negative videos too - he’s playing everyone and he’s handled it amazingly well
Everyone knows who he is and nobody feels neutral about him so everyone is talking and sharing content - absolutely nailed it
He's complaining that there are so many clips of him online out of context, yet his hustler "university" literally tells people to post and share clips of him to spread as one of the ways to make money...
This is the most false "I'm a victim waaaa" videos I've seen in a long time.
How do you know that? Have you been in there?
@@Jur1_00 Yes. I'm not the one who bought into it, but I saw in there.
@@niclastname okay
@@Jur1_00 There's a video by a guy Coffeezilla from a few weeks ago who joined and publicly shows what you get as well if you're curious about it. I don't know if he talks specifically about that aspect though.
It's pretty obvious he's not talking about his "students" that are sharing positive clips about motivation and economic success to get others to signup to HU. So it's really not self-victimisation, bad faith take.
"I am a Christian man"
-Tate
"I'm starting a charitable organization and will be documenting all my donations"
- also tate
"Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward."
-the gospel according to Matthew 6:2
I'm all for Christianity, but not using it as a scapegoat or a shield.
He didn't toot his own horn about the donations at first.
i get what you are saying, but his point is that he wasnt document the charity work he’s doing people would just blow up whatever bad shit he said or did and he would appear all bad, and now he’s doing that so at least people know he’s not just a bad person.
dont really like the guy but i dont think he’s documenting his charity work with the purpose of showing off in mind.
@@Nakiriiiii why should anyone be trying to convince the world that they're a good person, rather than just keep doing beneficial things?
@@kevinh2345 Arguably no one should, and yet it's completely understandable and perhaps even human nature to want to be seen as a good person
I think him donating is totally irrelevant
He made his money by dealing drugs casinos, cam sites (abusing weak men)
Now with the questionable HU
Him donating even a million euros doesnt make him a good person at all.
My favourite part was when Destiny screamed "it's adventure time".
I disagree with Tate and his messaging quite a lot and perhaps certain extreme/misogynistic things he's insinuated led him to being banned due to ToS. However, on a more personal level, I'm not too sure it's a good thing to start celebrating people being deplatformed simply because they have "disagreeable ideas" especially when what determines an idea to be "disagreeable" differs from person to person.
Aside from the more extreme cases like calls to violence, misinformation clearly leading to harm and targeted harassment, I do believe people should be able to disagree in good faith without getting ostracized from every social media platform and doomed to be viewed as an evil horrible person by others who refuse to interact. It seems like we're getting to a point where people are unironically celebrating other people's deplatforming on a personal level while conveniently hiding behind ToS just to avoid encountering any ideas they disagree with.
We got to that point a long long time ago, buddy.
Damn. Homie wrote a whole essay
Agreed, and the same goes for making those false allegations about him. If you’re someone that truly believes Andrew Tate is a sex trafficker, then you’re just delusional and want it to be true, to just amplify and reassure your hatred towards him. It’s ironic how people claim he’s such an evil person, while taking part in making those false allegations with zero proof, and wishing death upon him.
You write that long essay for what reason? It is meaningless and noone will care about it. Move on with your life. 1 week later everyone here will forget about what you wrote and what i replied.
@@JesusOrDestruction Bitch, that's 6 paragraphs.
The way Andrew Tate repeats himself is mind numbing, I felt like I was going insane listening to this
A very concise speaker indeed
Maybe he wants to make sure people "get the message" (most still probably won't). If people were truly listening to him and what he had to say, he wouldn't be in this position. People hear what they want. Him feeling the need to repeat himself so that his word are not twisted is completely understandable.
Well, seeing Andrew Tate is misunderstood most of the time, I get why he does that
@@kiljaeden5405 don't think he needs to do that for "I don't like people making false criminal accusations" there's no room for misunderstanding there, there's no need for that to take 5 minutes of repetition.
If you have been a speaker and had to do a speech. Depending on how your audience looks or the lack of engagement you reiterate points. When it's TH-cam I don't find repeating yourself so strange especially when you want to get certain points across.
It also helps as it's submliminal programming.
"I am taking full accountability for what has happened to me"
"I hold no ill will towards the social media companies or those who hate me"
"That is unfair"
By repeating those you do start to believe him. He says he is accountable so he must be. He says he holds no ill-will for those who did him so wrong(How noble you think). He says he has been treated unfairly(Based on his narrative I believe it).
It's very useful.
He’s really playing the “I’m a good little Christian boy” meme lol
I'm sure you are little.
@@MrR40388 Tate kiddies don’t even know how quotation marks work apparently
Yet sells women for sex and has cheated multiple times. Such a nice boy
I in no way support any of Andrew Tate's philosophy or share his views. But banning is not the solution IMO. We need to discuss and solve the issues that these millions of men are facing all around the globe in dating and especially in regards to the increased loneliness epidemic. There will be another Tate a week/month from now. And then another. And they will only keep on getting worse.
What's worse is Andrew Tate has millions of men who follow them and he always talks about how the system tries to remove strong men and promote weak men, this ban has only confirmed to all these men that what he says is true, it solidifies their belief system.
@@HunterSolo that's true we still have sneako and fresh and fit who have Tates ideals so we can still debate them.
@@HunterSolo If people are joining his program and choosing to stay, then wouldn’t that imply what they’re learning is worth the money in their opinion? It’s not like someone is holding a gun to their head forcing them to stay. Worse case scenario you pay the $50, and don’t think the information you learned was worth it. That’s literally nothing, that’s the equivalent of working 2-3 hours in the span of a month.
The philosophy that men should strive to improve and live fulfilling lives ? How dare he right
@@HunterSolo but its not like his instagram was the main source of HU advertising? it was all fan tiktoks / youtube accounts
I get so tired of this ancient story of the boy standing up to his bully and then magically transforming into this fully self actualized man. It doesn't work like that. I've seen plenty of guys stand up to the bully and just create extra drama for themselves and end up with far worse problems. Not to mention all the forms of non-physical bullying. The truth is that these things are messy. Sometimes it's on you to stand up for yourself, other times it's on the adults to protect the kids.
Being naturally emotional, and building fortitude is such an advantage. It equips you with compassion and the ability to assert your convictions. Given you obtain the right information for your beliefs and values, it’s very useful
this spot on
Yes it strikes the perfect balance and can have the pros of both without their cons. For the most part, the biggest con is even trying to work your way up to that level since it will be more difficult then to be completely either side of the fence.
What do you mean by naturally emotional?
@@macmccloud8171 I see that is misconstruing my greater point. I technically meant someone who is in tune with his emotions and with that ability to be sensible and empathize
@@cpt.kagoul are u an empath?
There are good male role models but almost all of them are nerfed in liberal circles. Even Destiny despite is an excellent example despite his untraditional lifestyle and dudes on his left side hate him. Every good male influence gets nerfed or is too busy living life.
If you think letting your wife fucked by other men is positive role model playing whole day games and debating about bs is good life nobody would look upto destiny tate has multiple women kickboxing champion he come from Luton on goverment benifits to top many people will relate to that instead of cuckold boy streaming all day
Hamza is a pretty good self improvement youtuber.
Destiny would be a terrible "male role model" lol
@@Boredasfuck29 you make do with what you got he worked hard took advantage of his skills and lived the life he wanted to as a Christian he is terrible as a male role model but in general he has shown admirable tenacity and strong signs of integrity despite falling short on many occasions and being unnecessarily acerbic.
We all know there are no male role models on the progressive left lol.
I didn't believe Tate had such a pure heart until now by the fact that he just told us.... Somehow all the talk about using, manipulating, prostituting woman and hustling those he claims to help lead me to believe something different. Bless this kind man of god.
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"maniuplating"? he didn't manipulate anyone my guy...you're doing the vaush thing where you lie about your opponents cause you dislike them
Sheep
All fake allegations.
When did he talk about prostituing women? Never? You just said that for impact? Ok.
Adversity is just a small slice of building a strong, reliable human being. Experiencing adversity just reduces your 'panic attack' factor for the next adversity in your life. Sometimes it's a reality check to get shit done and change circumstances.
Sacrifice is the major component: working out, getting rid of distractions to study, impulse control, food/diet balance, helping friends and family members with situations where you gain nothing, etc. waging war on instant-gratification and experiencing the fruits of sacrifice/hard work lead to people with strong characteristics.
It's all in your head bro
That comes from you a strong individual at the level of Tate. It is fascinating that theory is put next to data and theory supersedes data to some.
Adversity makes you recruit resources you didn't known you have. He is talking of great men, which means sustained pushing for a long time (decades).
There is a component of madness and becoming numb to pain at pursuing success. But if you are not being challenged, what you are doing is not going to be great.
Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Mick Jagger, Albert Einstein, the most well known have extreme personalities and didn't attend to "diet", "food" "impulse control". Picasso would be days without sleeping well over 50 while dating his 16 yo neighbor
@@cristianproust mick jagger Einstein, jobs, musk
What a werid of list names
Get some better inspirations bro
@@narutofan4545 I'm not looking for inspiration. I'm saying exceptional people are strange to the extreme, and not "balanced". A couple of lines and you couldn't get the point, bro
In school we heavily focused on group work and teaching our thought process to our group members. It allowed me to at least understand things a lot more and for some it actually made it worse. It's actually surprising how many high school kids could do some decently hard math and not understand how the process works or what it means. Kinda thankful for my last professor for focusing heavy on understanding why ot how something works.
What’s the bigger fight? The battle for Sneako’s Soul or the Battle of Andrew Tate’s 2 Accents
😂😂
Adversity is good but only if you have a strong base. That base being your upbringing. So yes they are right when they say adversity is good but realistically a lot of people don't have that foundation to deal with adversity. Thats why a two parent household is so important. Sure there are cases where single parents did a great job but generally thats not how things work out. Tate says he was raised by a single mother but he still had a lot of influence from his dad in his life. That is clear by the stories he tells about him.
What?
@@madratter7031 yes read that again
Unless if they are women because women have easier lives than men they are better at facing adversity since they will have better up bringings in modern society.
I understand and agree to an extent. But, ultimately I can’t support this stance. It’s too much of a cop out for failing. Everyone has the potential to make it, but most won’t. But, you should still try.
You realize kids growing up in single parent households typically face far more adversity? Most of them in the grand scheme of things come out ok That said, if there's one thing they become very accustomed to, it's dealing with adversity. It's typically those who come from stable households where typically everything goes their way, who have the major meltdowns when faced with something not going their way. AT least in my experience.
25:44 this is very true take. Understanding where your abilities/success came from is very different from just having success.
In the Military and in special operations they put you in adverse situations and make you figure it out. This builds the mental fortitude needed to survive at war.
Unlike these modern day soldiers we did not get stress/safe cards to protect us because the drill instructors would yell at us.
Legend has it the bully is still bleeding on the bus to this day.
Yes. Matter of fact, I'm the seat right next to the Bully.
RIP another great saga of the internet.
Destiny will be banned eventually
@@wa-bu3ke and when it happens...
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RIP another great saga of the internet.
Lulz ikr calling women property and making millions of males turn into sexists in action for the past month was so funny. Let's do it with black people next. Who's going to go on twitch and start saying black people should be property, lets go guys we need another great saga on the internet!
Oh wait I forgot, no one would stand for that for even a day. Weird how there's such a double standard despite women having a far greater history of actually being property, and making up the largest slave trade in the world as we speak. But what else is new.
I'm glad this was just a fun saga to watch for you. For some of us it isn't just an internet saga.
@@FoxExcess He didn't. Nice strawman
@@wa-bu3ke He literally did say that because I saw it with my own eyes live on Adin's stream so...Feel free to present an actual counter argument whenever you're ready, sport.
Destiny's chat is a good example of what happens when a big group of really unintelligent and sad people gather.
Finally, a good/true comment.
I can never look at his chat dude it triggers the ever living fuck out of me lmfao
@@doctor_who5203 me too, i try my best to ignore it. They have nothing of value to say.
you're not supposed to take it seriously.
No matter what you believe, people should not be banned for their opinions. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If you think someone has bad ideas then put them out in the open.
I do agree but the problem is that he mainly aims his lessons to kids/young men and kids/young men don't care about common sense so even debunking their beliefs won't work on them.
Agree and disagree. Platforms and companies should be able to ban specific individuals from their platforms if they want to according to their terms of services.
Governments however, should not be able to ban people this way. If companies like Facebook, Twitter or TH-cam feel that a person like Andrew Tate hurts their image and ultimately, their bottom line, they should be able to ban him as long as the reasons are unrealted to the law. (For example, if you want to ban someone based on discrimination that obviously should be prohibited)
I don't think Sunlight is a very good disinfectant. In some cases it works, in other cases it wont. To some people, having bad ideas represented in society is confirmation that they are good ideas. I hate to say this, but I've lost faith in human reason long ago. I don't believe most people are rational beings or very intelligent at all. For this reason, I believe alot of people are susceptible to their own biases and inability to reason. If Sunlight was the best disinfectant we never should have seen Nazi germany rise right? Didn't seem to work at all.
It doesn't matter if 99% of people can view Tate after all this scrutiny and deduct that he's a fool. In the end, there will still be 1% left who're immune to that logic who will succumb to his principles. Is banning him the solution? In some cases, maybe. In some cases, probably not. But then again, I still think corporations and their platforms should be able to ban him from their platforms. It's basically like saying that he's not welcome into their property.
@@henrikswanstrom9218 but that’s where i find the hypocrisy, these companies ban Tate for the dumbass statements he makes, but then leave other creators alone despite those other creators spreading dumbass takes as well. That’s the type of shit that reinforces the support of those Tate fanboys.
I’ve never seen evidence of this supposed “sunlight is the best disinfectant” meme, anything it seems like the ‘sunlight’ of social media caused all the horrid opinions to spread farther and wider than ever before. That being said, I still don’t necessarily support banning him
@@voidcowboy4327 Yeah this pretty much. His audience are people who probably didn’t reason themselves into thinking what they do to begin with.
he's really good at talking and making things dramatic in a way that makes you agree with him gonna give him that
Pauses in speech, waiting on every word. Emphasis on every word makes every word much important
If you’re low IQ.
@@odenoki9571 I was being sarcastic 😜
Not a lot of people can talk and have dramatic music play during a speech and it just works.
@@odenoki9571 yes
I think Destiny lowkey agrees with a lot of underlying red pill ideology, but feels obligated to push back due to the associated misogynistic undertones. When there is an RP influencer focused more on rhetoric and logic, it will be hard to counter. Imagine if someone like Tate came along that didn't say misogynistic takes, didn't have the baggage, and didn't advocate for cheating. Would be unstoppable.
If a redpill influencer was focused on rhetoric and logic, they wouldn’t agree with redpill.
Destiny already explained this. Redpill rethoric always starts with a bit of truth, and then goes into completely bonkers conclusions. (For example: men and women are biologically different. Everyone can agree with this. Therefore, women need to stay home and men should always provide. It's a bait and switch (hope i'm using that term correctly lmao)). But that's not just due to a lack of skilled communicators, that's the whole point.
So what's left about redpill at that point? It seems like we are talking about some kind of deep truth no one is willing to aknowledge, when in reality we are pretty much talking about some men's problems that definetely need to be addressed more in society to avoid the pitfalls of disperity some young guys fall into because of their lack of partner or social skills in general. Of course we should talk more about these issues, but I'm sure that the whole redpill thing didn't start when a dude wrote a forum post on the internet talking about his troubles in society, it's more likely it became a thing when a bunch of 20 years olds started pinpointing everyone of their personal problems on women and what feminism did to society.
I really don't think so. A lot of shit these guys say runs totally contradictory to everything Destiny believes.
Just watch how he talked with Aba about them. They have a fundamentaly different view of the world.
I'd say it is the exact opposite. Destiny disagrees with the underlying ideology but can find some common ground on a few issues.
@@maxwellsdemon10 dude respectfully to destiny, but he aint normal dude in general lol Hes kind of weird in the spectrum of normal ppl experiences.
Thats why a lot of ppl like aba even tho he agreed a lot of stuff with destiny if he wanted to recommend role model not gonna point them to him.
It's difficult because I want to take tate seriously, but all his talk of being a force for good in the world seems kind of moot when he was clearly running a pyramid scheme that preyed on insecure men with hustler's university.
also holy shit the "me or nobody" stuff is so unnerving.
affiliate marketing isn't a "pyramid scheme", Paypal used Affiliate marketing to become popular, and so have many other tech businesses.
@@jacobspeedrunchannel1893 if the people below are paying in, and that’s paying the people above, and the business exists to teach people how to make money, I’d call it a pyramid scheme, even if it’s not the sort of promised returns deal that Madoff did.
@@JosephF. its not a pyramid scheme because the people paying for his product are customers not investors, are free to op out anytime.
@@Dzillarable people are free to opt out of a pyramid scheme too what? You just lose money they don't hold you hostage.
And look, if you're the leader of an "affiliate marketting scheme" and you're saying stuff like "look if you can't spare $50 every month you're not going anywhere" "there's nowhere else to go" etc.
He also guarantees you'll get rich if you stick with HU. And look, perhaps you still think none of that is enough to say he's scamming people. Ok.
At the very least, he's preying on people who wish they had a better life. And for doing that, he's a shitty guy, and I find it difficult to accept his video as sincere.
@@Dzillarable cope
This is by far the most fair analysis of his final message to I’ve seen for a person on the political left. keep up the good work.
Destiny isnt on the left, get a grip
@@jamesbuckley972 Get a grip? Somebody must not like Destiny. He describes himself as progressive and on the left. Why isn’t Destiny on the left to you? Has he said something that hurt your feelings?
@djbabyboi That’s great. That means he’s not polarized.
@djbabyboi no he’s not
@@rafiqjennings5262 pretty sure I seen him say multiple times he’s relatively neutral when it comes to aligning your self with political parties which is pretty fuckin stupid in the first place
@38:14. Destiny's position on men talking to their close friends shows he was never involved in men's spaces. The internet is compounding the problem of men's mental health because people's friends are on the internet. In men's spaces like the military, athletics, or your small group of neighborhood friends men are willing console each other. The reason is when a group of men struggle together to accomplish goals it creates a bond.
Exactly. As someone in the military with mental health struggles, daily life sucks for us a lot of the time, but most of the notorious suicide numbers actually happen after people get out. While the life can suck at times, I have tons of people (mostly men), who can relate to me and I can talk to at the drop of a hat. In the civilian world, people sometimes can’t relate to those experiences. I found similar parallels growing up, in sports, religious communities, family/friend groups, etc, where I mainly interacted with communities of men. My guess is that internet gaming or debate world or whatever maybe just doesn’t have this, so he’s not exposed to it.
Destiny quoting the adverse childhood experience study, based.
I told my friend to take a shot everytime tate says he is the most famous person. We are now in the e.r and not sure if he is going to make it and we still got an hour and a half to go with this video.
Can’t believe u killed your friend for this wack ass joke.
You have to finish what you started. It’s the only way to become a top G.
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Destiny I'm gon keep it a stack wit you. Your videos are bomb af
@Marco A outside
i hardly disagree with Destiny on his depression/improvement point. the more excuses you can find the less likely you are to do something about your shitty life, "i didnt choose my school, i didn't choose my friends, i was raised in a single parent household etc ... , no wonder i'm depressed, nothing to do now to improve my shitty life" how is this take gonna help a depressed teenager?
Exactly. One thing I liked that SNEAKO pointed about him and Aba is their borderline advocacy for complacency. I understand his point, but it’s such a cop out for people to be losers. Everyone has the capability to make it, but most won’t. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try.
P.S. Destiny became a famous streamer despite the odds.
No, the most likely you will understand why you are in the position ur a in "why i am so sad?" well because you have shitty parents, "oh.. Now i get it and i can work on that to improve myself and try to get out of this shitty situation"
You need to understand that depression is a disease, and like any other disease you need to understand the causes to be able to get better. Teens have a lot of stuff going on specially in this era where information is bombarded to them, is not easy stuff. Dont confuse understandment with excuses.
I agree. I have never understood why people would think otherwise.
@@BasuraJugar is this why most americans are on pills instead of improving their lives ?
The short answer is that sometimes the shame of failing to live up to the expectations, whether of your family/peers or yourself, is the biggest hurdle. Accepting that there are circumstances outside your control that have a major impact on your life allows you to forgive yourself and break the mentality that you are a failure.
Watching Tate try to use big words to sound smart is peak Michael Scott energy.
Yep, and he uses them wrongly. 'inclusiTIvity' and 'lies being purported'. Then he says that he has a very good grasp of the English language
@@eleannakritikaki4811 not a fan of his but he is in the ‘genius’ levels of iq and worth 100’s of millions of dollars, big words or small words he’s better then us
@@tqd2008 sure man but according to whom (the IQ)? Himself? As far as money goes, you do not need to be intellectual to be rich and popular (or a populist). We don't measure IQ with money, for a reason
Why is this man, who is a top G, who is a genius and, the most influential man on the planet, with an iron mind to boot, repeating himself word for fucking word?
Maybe because after being misrepresented so much that he has received death threats, he feels the need to make sure it gets across completely. ? Sorry that you don't get that since you're not actually an intellectual but just a mindless sheep.
Probably to not be misinterpreted so he's probably leaving multiple versions of the same thing so that people don't take 1 point out of context
@@leontshuma9664 bingo, but some ppl are so simple that they couldnt possible get it 🤣
It is important to defend yourself from physical aggression however I think the message is more that you need to control yourself until it is necessary to do otherwise. A real man acts for others and not himself unless it is absolutly necessary to do so
This. Until about 3 months ago I hadn’t had a scrap since I was late teens early 20’s (probs 15-20 year) but just before Xmas I was attacked by two guys in ballys in the woods… smashed them both and sent them on their way
You NEED to be dangerous but be in control of it or you’re useless to yourself and those around you when it’s needed
His final message was pretty opposite what he always spouts. He literally said he doesn't believe in depression and these guys need to suck it up. Now he acts like he's the amazing speaker on men's mental health? He was there to make money and nothing else, dude was incredibly hateful in all of his messaging and is trying to act like none of that happened now lol
That's disingenuous. Because there has been multiple dimensions to the things has has done and he has been open about it. All you have done was conflated the fact he wants to make money and also help other make money in a nonconventional way that you may not agree with, that now you can make a moral assertion of his motives. That's like saying drs are bad people because ultimately most people go into medicine for the financial earnings part so their secondary wanting to aid people with medicine is Invalid. Stop making fallacious claims.
I think he has a great attitude towards it. He is very big on making the best move regardless how shitty the situation is
He has said in the past that mental health issues are real but should never be used as an excuse. Like “I can’t go to the gym because of x” no, you can go to the gym. There is no obstruction but yourself in scenarios when it comes to deciding to do what’s good for you. Of course there’s debilitating illness but let’s be real... 99% of the people you hear saying they can’t do x because of a mental illness are CHOOSING not too. I had a psychosis that lasted about 3 years. Completely insane delusions that were powerful. Paranoia. Couldn’t go out. I hated it. One day I looked in the mirror and said enough. Put myself in the gym, healed my mind without drugs, made new friends and reconnected with old ones now I have my name on a lease along with 3 other close friends. Making moves and growing all because I kept it real with myself. Tate’s whole message when it comes to self improvement and depression/mental illness is this... keeping it real and holding yourself accountable to the absolute highest degree.
@@dante19890 He doesn't even believe depression exists though
@@kadeemb3 He said this, and I quote, "Depression isn't real." It's the hypocritical nature of him that makes me feel he doesn't believe what he's saying. The way he was speaking in this final message is not what gained him so much virality.
Hearing someone say over and over how happy they are and how their life is perfect like 2 dozen times in the same videos is the best way to confirm that neither of those two things are true and being banned off these platforms has REALLY affected him.
Projection wild
@@raaseraphic If you think thats projection instead of just the obvious truth then I don’t know what to tell you bud.
Say your unhappy then your unhappy. Say your happy…. Also unhappy. Checkmate lmao
@@CrisjoseCruz exactlyyyyyyyy 🤣
I mean he said all of that before he got banned
Censorship going brazy.
Based
@@DepthUnchecked +10 credit score points.
@@ebek4806 Les go
Actually don’t understand how you can say it’s not a question of whether he hates women or a question of his view of how people should be in society…. He has beaten women, joked about rape and talked about how women can’t fight and they are a waste of space if they are just a vessel for babies. He has talked about how he will beat a womens face until it falls off and then rape her. This is hatred and disgusting. This is not just thinking women should be house wives and even that is disgusting
I’m guessing you didn’t even watch the video it was debunked there was no beating or rape
@@off6848 I think you're referring to the video of the blonde women. There was another video of a brown haired women where he was making her count her bruises and she had to hide into the bathroom to get away from him. Have you seen that one? I have yet to get an answer about who leaked those videos in the first place
@@deadams8905 I haven’t but how do we know it wasn’t the same situation? I’ve been with girls like this not even looking
@@jellyjamese3134 kids act up there’s kids doing the same thing from lgbtq side saying white teachers have no authority etc
"You are all but guaranteed to land a job if you graduate college, unless you have some crazy liberal arts degree." This just isn't true, at least not with associates degrees. I've known people with graphic design, IT, business, programming degrees that either could land nothing relevant or if they did it was bottom of the barrel barely worth it for the pay jobs that both offered no opportunity for advancement and didn't help their resume when trying for somewhere better.
The job market can be a very rough place depending on where you live, who's hiring or not hiring, and what field you're trying to break into. It's not as simple as go to college -> get job -> make enough to comfortable live. It can be brutal, especially if you don't have a bachelors degree.
@@hughesd22 I believe it
I mean, anecdotally sure, but those degrees are valuably and most people should be able to find work with them. Yo also have to understand that your speaking to an Associates Degree
The unemployment rate is under 4%. If you have a professional degree, there’s a very good chance that you’ll land a decent job
@@jaykay2218 The employment rate does not speak to whether you land a job relevant to the degree you hold - or even a decent paying job.
@@yorhahoudini4531 Time for you to do some research on this topic my friend.
destinys take on people coming out of uni/college and instantly getting a job is laughable and pretty out of touch ngl
17 minutes in and Tate has just been saying the same thing over & over? Not sure why I expected this guy to be better in the verbal department.
Been kicked in the head too many times lol
He needs to say it over and over again because he believes people are misrepresenting his outlook. It’s harder to make an out of context clip when the snippet says the context over and over again.
@@xenmaster2203 I can't prove it (and nobody actually can), but I'm 90% certain he speaks like that, because he has some talking points wrote down or memorised and is returning to them over and over and over again, when he is rambling.
Like the "most famous person in the world" (which is extremely delusional and hilarious at the same time). He doesn't say that to clarify his position, he does it because it's a memorised talkingpoint.
@@xenmaster2203 His subjects upload snippets of clips all over the internet. No shit that the full context is lost, it's by his design.
@@xenmaster2203 no, he repeats himself because he has nothing to say
Tate acts like he only talks about men's issues then turns around and says women "innately have no responsibility or honour unlike guys"
Honestly the popular stuff you hear about it him isn't as bad as is gets, he says some really bad stuff
destiny bro, about adversity he even says thats why you should joining a combat sport, or a sport in general. he has said verbatim men should do something difficult
I can't get over how often he feels the need to point out how famous he is. I don't think anyone I know who doesn't use social media all that much has ever heard of him.
I think its interesting that he always makes a point to say every few sentences "I don't actually care, but..." lol
He has never said those words.
That's your take from this entire video? Low iq detected, opinion rejected
They are paraphrasing every time he has insinuated that he isn't effected by what other people say or think, but goes onto say he does care because... it effects people around him. Maybe you missed that.
I hear “this doesn’t hurt my feelings, but it’s actually a big problem.”
@@Mgaluve local dipshit Tate fan
"I had a gay friend when I was a kid" LMAO
*tate speaks for like. 5 mins.*
Destiny: man. That music. Dramatic.
Amazing commentary. Well don't mr destiny. Truly insightful
“…it needs to be concise and [compendious]…” very funny line
Lol, he kinda said the same word twice. Makes sense with all the repetition.
Love him or hate him, he is entertaining as fuck
True.
He is an enormously boring tosser tbh
@Chilly maybe you're wrong. Maybe he's popular for the right reasons and not because of his entertaining stupidity.
Based.
So was Hitler probably.
If you didn't get over your childhood bully, you have not matured as adult
Andrew Tate is a walking definition of cognitive dissonance
Religious, but preaches hedonism
i dont think you have the definition of that right
@@skullingtonfx4441 couldn’t have said it better
Yes God told him to sleep around with barely legal bimbos and buy a mansion and private jet
@@zackalil2920 the man is a walking contradiction what do you mean
I don’t know if I like destiny’s take on guys not being emotional around each other, if he’s comparing it to how girls are emotional then I’d agree but what I see between guy friends is like when there’s an issue they just got to straight problem solving mode. We might not break down and cry but we still communicate. When I was in college, every weekend I’d go sit out on our front porch and have my roommates, whoever was free, to come out and just talk about what’s up, give each other some life advice and an outer perspective.
In my experience it has been the opposite. When i open up to women they quickly go in to problem solving mode, sometimes without even hearing all the facts.
However when talking about my issues with my guy friends they just listen, they don't provide much advice but they don't need to. Just to be able to get stuff off our chests was good enough.
Myron suggested women will leave you for being emotional. Which is pretty much saying don’t be emotional.
Its kinda true.
Destiny is emotional and his girlfriend fucks other guys. Just putting 2 and 2 togheter XD
@@jsgdk it’s not true. These men just don’t know how to interact with women. All the women I know (including me) only date guys who are in touch with their emotions. Nobody wants to date someone who cannot communicate their feelings in a mature relationship
the fact that he calls women females half the time makes it so much harder to sympathize with him
I know women that do that too though so i dont see the point of your comment
How should call them then? Bitches? I'm in.
@@ceejay1476 calling women females is just insulting because it’s kind of dehumanizing. when a guy says “females do this” or “you females”, immediately I don’t give them any chance.
@@taralilley9047 but there are women that do that too? You dont give them a chance also?its ridiculous
I would agree that conservatives don't hate women, but the way women should engage in society in their world view's, generally, is pretty fucked. I will also say that Andrew Tate took his literal best takes and clips for this video, as we all know. So, when he sits there and trys to frame his more stable takes as the entirety of his rhetoric or message when we all know the crazy shit this man has said, is kinda wild. The fact that he said he champions and protects women whilst on a few different occassions talked explicitly about beating women is even wilder. I think if Andrew Tate dialed it back and was the person he portrayed himself to be in this last video, he would have been fine.
I would say fucked for the majority of women. Of course, there are women that would love to be trad con wives.
Your views are based on clips that were taken out of context. He has never encouraged people beating women.
Also, what do you find wrong on the conservative view of women.
The liberal view is to let them do whatever they want without taking any accountability.
I find it hilarious that the man who kept saying he can't be banned is now making this video lmao
He is not concern about the ban, he is addressing the fake news why he got banned, all those new bits have zero sources, and only took snippets and edited clips which comes mostly from tiktok.
He is on Rumble and Gettr, preparing for stage 2.
He said cancelled, because it won't affect him in anyway. He still has his wealth.
he pedals back now...he's videos are misogynistic and youngers take he's messages seriously, many young confused kids tuck 'women are propriety" of his messages...
Adversity is the teacher many first-worlders never had.
sounds like something someone who has never had adversity and focuses on how others never had adversity, would say.
@@DougDepker lvl1 response. what a debater mind response. you invalidate the comment by assuming a inexperience of the sayer (ad hom as you shift to critque of the person you dont know about) . destiny always uses this technique to win the audience - to make the audience feel like he is the right one without even making a point, you hear him always in relationship advices saying "sounds like something someone who has never had girlfriend would say" or in litterally every other topic.
@@DougDepker That is absolute nonsense. Adversity IS the crucible in which a person is tempered. But the issues are the same as with forging steel. Too much heat/adversity and the steel breaks, too little and it doesn't temper correctly.
The issue is that there is no correct level of adversity for everyone, but everyone needs some level of adversity in their life.
@@haych3754 lvl2 debate brain response
@@DougDepker
Cry more
i remember seeing the cancel culture trying to cancel mr beast, over that 100 boys vs 100 girls for 500k video. sad world we live in today...
I think the “Romanian corruption” thing he was talking about is more about minor things like speeding tickets, false metoo accusations, and other civil stuff, not current Sex crimes being ignored.
Not really, I live near Romania, and can tell you that with the right amount of money, you can cover even crimes like grape and ending someone. If you have millions to grease the system, you are like a God there. Truly one of the most corrupt continues on the Planet.
"I get 5000 death threats a day"
"when 98% of the E-mails I get are positive" this man sure gets a lot of E-mails daily huh
~250,000 emails for a public figure of Tate’s size seems pretty reasonable to me
@@jaykay2218 I think you overestimate how many people actually do go as far as to write E-mails but hey I wouldn't be able to tell you since I can't find good info on this
@@jaykay2218 Do you mean social media DM's? No one is getting 250,000 emails a day lmfao, not even big companies get that many.
@@amp4105 ok
i think it's actually ispiring to the stereotypical incel dudes that a guy with that accent and jawline could grow to be considered a masculine icon
"I have no criminal charges on crimes against females." That didn't age well.
When you listen to the lunchbox story, remember this… he tried asking his parent for support, and he got the message “you’re on your own, deal with it yourself” as a 5 year old. When he was violent, he was rewarded for it.
What's your point because I honestly don't see one.
@@slylockfox85 because now he is hitting Al the women with the lunchbox
Was it, or is that what you feel 😂
@@slylockfox85 Probably because your brain isn't fully developed , when you are an adult you might understand. Don't worry we were all children once :)
In that instance he was defending and sticking up for himself. Assuming the story is true he was in the right and his dad did the right thing
I felt like I was going insane, since I kept hearing the same sentences from tate over and over again as he would loopback continuously
Because people doesn't get things, you need kept telling them points, so they will not get out of context ( it;'s rly good frome him, even destiny is aknowledge that )
That is what happens when you ramble on and on. You're bound to be repetitive.
“ I can’t be bothered , but I’m very bothered “
I think he is conflating popularity with notoriety. Or maybe I am? Like, I am sure Hitler has / had a ton of google search traffic.. but I think most sane people wouldn’t say “Hitler is popular” they’d call him notorious or infamous.
He uses “google searches” as his reasoning which is hilarious, I’ve googled him, so have a lot of people I know, because google was needed to know who this guy was, I still despise him, so my search, and I am sure many others, have zero impact on his “popularity”, they only contribute to his notoriety.
Jesus i actually thought I rewound a few times because tate will say the same things over and over word for word. It feels like he is a college student trying to stretch out an essay by filling it with random shit
destiny's so out of touch many people with degrees end up unemployed
By internet standards the most “famous” person is Pewdiepie
Not gonna lie, it’s a little ironic for Andrew Tate to be complaining so much about people clipping his videos out of context, when that is his entire business model. People join Hustlers University, then they clip him, and get others to join his Hustlers University, and then they get a cut. It’s an MLM. Those people clipping him have an insensitive to choose the more controversial stuff he says, because more people are going to see it.
Yeah I've found it odd he's just left all that out to make a video saying he's great.
Also him saying other people aren't as successful as him because they aren't as good while running an MLM and a service designed to profit off of other people with minimal assistance and basic advice in a service that's really all about him.
The stuff about Tate looking to craft his message perfectly so he can't be taken out of context reminds me of a certain person.
Let's see how that goes 😂
My apologies, I don't know what person you are referring to. Could you expand?
@@MrItsmee17 Jordan Peterson probably
@@CuZtuga well Jordan was genuinely sick in the head at the time right? After he came back after his sickness
@@MrItsmee17 Destiny
He's basically doing the "Oh it's just a joke bro. If you didn't watch the entire 4 hour podcast you wouldn't know the exact context and that means you don't know what I really meant."
Remember "it's just a prank bro?", well now people use it to dismiss stupid shit they've said by saying "It's just a joke bro lol quite being so serious when I say women are bitches and terrible drivers."
Thank you Destiny for being a voice of reason, I hope you will have the opportunity to push back on tatesque contradictory views in a fair and appealing manner.
@SakaBaka Yes suppressing the voices in your head lol.
@SakaBaka i don’t think destiny ever argued for suppressing tate lmao. You live in a manufactured reality.
@SakaBaka what agenda is he pushing?
@@TheCirclekeeper 💀
@@GarciansVortex THE FEMINIST BOT AGENDA !!!! WAAA
This hive mind is unreal. The moment Destiny stops talking, twitch chat starts hating on Andrew Tate, the moment Destiny starts expressing anything positive about Andrew Tate, the whole chat just suddenly spams W Tate. God I really dislike sheep that moves with the wave, to feel included.
All I can hear is tate saying “wah wah pwease whet me back own dah interwnets pwweeeeeaaaase!” For an hour lol
Because you’re close-minded and intolerant
Same.