Watch BEFORE You Buy!! | KTM 690 SMCR Owners 4 Year Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2025
- Ive owned my KTM 690 SMCR Supermoto for four years now, so I thought it was about time I fill you in on everything I have learnt about this bike over that period.
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My 701 sm lives in the living room for winter 😁
Wife in the shed? 😂
@@moza1080 On a coffee table or a scissor lift table?
. ..no head...hit the shed
My 690 keeps on going for winter. If it performs well enough offroad (with the correct tyres), it will perform well enough on snow (with the correct tyres)
Just clocked 1000 miles on my 2022 690. I love it and it’s my favourite bike I’ve owned.
Dreambike! My friend got a 2017 SMCR at the start of this season and ever since then I've been in love
The best mod as far as I'm concerned is replacing the huge stock airbox with something more compact, such as the rade garage storage kit. It will make maintenance and installation of other mods easier, and it will unlock a bit of extra performance and storage space.
You look like Donkey Kong on that bike Chops
@@DirkDiggler007 That’s harsh. 🤣
🙊
Thanks 😬
I’ve ridden mtx bikes but never a super moto, looks like a real hoot. With regards to the brakes, ask ktm if the abs pump has to be bled by using an odb scanner tool to activate the solenoids in order to purge any air.
you are 100% right with your comment on 'if yer mates have got one of these' - they are great bikes with mates...different to a lot of new bikes.
Thanks for the video Chopsy! I’ll be picking one up in January! Can’t bloody wait! Absolutely love KTM! ❤ great video as always!
My dream bike. Finally got a 2020 before summer this year. Absolutely in love it with, will never sell it.
Ive watched your supermoto videos for yonks and finally pulled the trigger on a red gasgas. So looking forward too. And having your videos are going to be useful. Im just have trouble finding out a place for suspension because i dont know if the e700 forks fit the sm700 etc
Glad youre keeping it chops, I bought one off the back of your video series and i love it, i bought a tuono factory as my distance missile, I believe i have the best of both worlds.
Just hit 3k in my '23. Put a wings exhaust and about to get the fuel dongle and call it good. Lovin every minute.
4k on my '23 , dongle and leo vince so far .
lovin it !!
Don't waste cash on the dongle....get
A bolt about 1cm longer than the speed sensor bolt...on the rear axle...replace speed sensor bolt with the longer one and shim....so...bolt,sensor, shim...then tighten up...vola....all bs disabled
02 dongle @@markbaum9615
That's next to your hypermotard as my favourite one off your bikes ,yes Ducati has a supermoto but costs a fortune,, and more special parts for the KTM,,☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland great to see it out 👍👍😍
Lots of goodies on that SMC-R; wonderful machine! I had the oil in my 2019 690 lab tested after 3,000 miles and overall good results with no signs of abnormal wear or contamination. Lab suggested that I could go with a 4,000 mile interval with no issue. I was running Motorex 10w50 Power Synt 4T.
Very good to know, I'm actually doing the same for all my bikes 👍
Nice one chopsy , reminds me of the old mavis days in garage 😁😁😁. Can't beat the ktm / 701 sold mine on the there !!! Miss it already 🙁. Now watching this makes it feel worse ya bugger 😁 never had one single problem with the 701 in a few years and 7K miles .Great stuff . Keep it mate 👍👍
Thanks Wattie, bloody good fun bikes eh! 😁👍
The most fun bike I have had chopsy 🤣🤣🤣wish it was out 30 yrs ago
Take the brake calliper off, and master cylinder... Turn upside down, calliper in a vice and lver assembly on the floor. Start bleeding, air bubbles will rise up and out. Pressure bleeding with a pump will work wonders as well.
Good luck lamb chop
Trouble is the cable run goes caliper to ABS pump then to master. So can't do that 😫
@@LambChopRides oh okay 👍 Beautiful bike Lamb chop. Hope you can get that front brake sorted. Definitely the bleeder on the banjo will help. Thanks for the awesome content 👏
Buy the adapter for the mastercylinder and use a pressure bleeder set at 2 bar. Works a treat.
Had my 690 smcr since new 2015, biggest grin factor going compared to my other bikes. This is one bike I will never sell. Too much fun.
I'm lucky enough to have 2 of these a 2023 smcr and a 2019 enduro r the enduro r has 20,000 miles on only minor issues 2 oil seals have put 5000 miles on smc r so far so good. I have had both dealer serviced. The 2023 gear box and quick shifter is night and day better than 2019. Which like you I rarely use as can give false neutrals usually when overtaking. Can't recommend these both highly enough they seriously are so much fun on smaller roads
Great to hear 👍
While not always reliable when upshifting, the quickshifter is quite nice for downshifting. It lets me focus on braking instead of having to simultaneously use the clutch and throttle to rev match, which is extra tricky (at least for me) when using front brake at the same time. But it is quite nice for upshifting too after you've given your muscle memory enough practice to learn what tends to make it go into false neutrals
Recently picked up a 2021 690 smcr absolutely love it fantastic bike haven’t encountered yet front brake issues but so far all good, I even find the quick shifter decent on it must be lucky as heard a lot of bad reviews on the QS 👌 slowly modifying it though!
I’m finding hard to believe, but I’ve actually turned 70. I mean, WTF! If this bike had been available in the 70’s I most likely wouldn’t be here. My crazy ride was a 1974 Ducati 750 Sport (I still have it and ride it now and again) 62HP, and I got into enough trouble with that!
Currently saving up for mine. Will have it soon. 🧡
Great to see you at the bike show , love the videos
Thanks Marty for saying hi 👋
Take it to the Pyrenees, eastbound from biescas on the N260a………did it on an XR650R Supermoto………Pure Nirvana !!!
KTM 690smcr Edition LCR
Lovely bike. Great stance.
Had same issue with front brake bleeding on my 690 SMC-R. I read that if you cracked the front brake reservoir open just a bit and then zip tied the brake lever closed over night it would fix the issue. I have done this fix on mine and it really firmed up the front brake for me.
I did try that in the past... Didn't help
Chops you have to cycle the ABS pump to completely bleed the brakes and that is completed by hooking the bike up to a computer at a dealership , nice bike you have !
Ah that's probably why I can't do it!! 😅👍
I’ve changed my fluid twice on my 2019 bike with no issue using a Laser vacuum bleeder.
Incredible machine Chopsy! Perfectly kitted out. Attention to detail is on spot.
What about them camshafts?? Is it made of Emmental cheese like on the 790 block?
Not teasing, just curious..
The issue on the 790 isn't materials, it's lubrication.
701 , if I have to go any distance I use a bit of sheep skin on the seat . Great bikes, only really needs the 02 dongle and a good exhaust for road use, the Wings exhaust can is great. +1 for the oil change, although it is synthetic I still change around 3K.
Cool looking bike, and the mods were not difficult to get it to this level of cool 😎
Love the side camera view
Such a smart looking bike! Would love to take one round a circuit.
Do love mine. Mad fun all the bolt ons etc. But I miss the power of the 1ks lol.
It will be interesting to see the new updated model that is supposed to come out to compete with the Ducati.
I had a 22 model loved it but it pissed all its coolant out after 800 miles spent 3 months at the dealer and on the ride home did it again ,
Would love another tho
22:40 good job you weren’t turning right there..
Incredible bike, I’ve got the 2020 model. I often forget it has the quick shifter coz it clutchless shifts so easily
good to hear !!
loving my '23 , stupid fun !!
those mirrors use the existing mirror holes ?
I just picked up a 690 duke to add go the garage love the 690s
Built mine just like yours, followed your build series to the t. Got the 701, hand polished the Ti pipes....best and most fun bike ive ever had. Got totalled by a woman driver who didnt look before she pulled out on me at 50mph. A year on and I'm fine, but the dream is over. PS I also got the Brembo RCS 15 - MUCH better than stock.
Oh no sorry to hear that Alf 😢
I think it's a great daily but I live where it's dry. Mine is unmodified but I'm ready to take a look at improving fueling. Thanks for the videos on the subject.
No worries Jim👍
I think - and you can double check: Husky had the new engine in 2017 and KTM got it a couple of years later.
Cool vid. Forgot you even had this lol. Looks & sounds great. So many nice mods! On a related subject, really looking forward to you reviewing the new Suzuki DRZ -SM 400 next year. Not a patch on yours obviously but looks fun & you can also mod the hell out of it relatively cheaply too.
Yeah they look great, saw them at motorcycle live yesterday! Hopefully will go on the launch 🙏
@LambChopRides Very cool, looking forward to it.
Brembo rcs 15 front master cylinder gets rid of the braking problem you’re dealing with, also the bleeding problem.
The newer engines you refer to - when did they come in?
Surprised when you mentioned the quickshifter, I guess mine had the update being a 2022! The only thing it does poorly is without a positive up shift I can false neutral...usually when overtaking...
Is the suspension stiff? Do speedbumps = tabletops?
Take it to a shop and get them to put it on their bleeding machine....I had the same problem with my tenere...sorted in minutes....😅
Yeah good idea.. 👍
Crescent yamaha at bursledon did mine...it's air in the abs pump...can't do it at home without the right tools....
If its air in the mastercyliner for the front brake it often helps to bleed the banjobolt like its a bleed nipple. Dont need a nipple on the banjobolt, just bleed the bolt. Cover with cloths or something. It will squirt! 😅
Ah good idea, I'm impressed!! 👍
@@LambChopRides Thanks. Has saved me a couple times when rebuilding calipers and changing brakelines. Brakefluid will go trough with normal bleeding, but no pressure. One or two pumps an bleeding the master banjobolt will give great brakepressure. A Yamaha mecanic tought me that after i got stuck when rebuilding brakes on a tzr50 moped 😃
Morning brilliant vid as normal have you got a new air vest ?
I need help choosing a bike. I moved from super sports to supernakeds. Currently have 22 S1000R which I also track. I want to buy Supermoto for next season and wander between conversion of 450 or 690/701. All my riding gonna be street and track but I like to ride a lot and full days. Also I want to learn to wheelie 😅😂 I’m not a good mechanic btw but I’ve done oil changes on my gixer and all sorts of basic maintenance.
The brake problem could possibly be the connection to the abs module. You may need to tighten the banjo bolts. Or change the copper washer.
Yes good idea that 👍
What tyres you have and sizes?
How much did you spend on it in total?
Chopsy my credit goes green in Jan so I'll give ya 10k for it if you wanna sell. I'm only in Sussex. Keep em coming :)
Hey Choppsey, i work for Mackay motorcycles in QLD ,Aust we,ve got a GAS GAS 701 sm on the floor wondering wether the ecu upgrade would work on that with airfilter upgrade as they want it gone and im in a good position to get it cheers Glenn.
Yes believe so Glenn, check.with Chris at CJS Racing 👍
Winter time we have too long to think about bikes, I have a 24 plate 690 and having test ridden the 698 mono I’m tempted to try it again. So Chopsy I’m wondering which bike you prefer? I know the 698 has more electronics but the 690 has more torque, which would win on a cart circuit?
Yeah very good question! I'm hopefully testing the Mono with the optional Termi soon and that will be the decider. Might even if the salt stays away doing a comparison with my 690 and the same mono so stay tunned! 👍
Fab mate yes I’ve seen so many comparisons on youtube between 690 and 698 and everyone talks about the specs which are already known and Chris Northover has done a great head to head for wheelies and on rough terrain but nobody has done a straight fair head to head, same weight riders rolling start race or a same rider stock against stock on a track timed? I want to find a dealer with a termi kit fitted to demo bike for sure.
Superb machine 👏 (I'd need platform boots lol!)
Such a gorgeous bike 👌 What mirror is that you've got on the bars please Chops?
....Nevermind, I've just reached that part of the video 😁 Cheers m'dear!
Thanks buddy 👍
Supermoto is just the best. I slid off my 701 on a track day picked it up and carried on. Cost of the crash...£0!It
Bet the local villages love you at 7am on a Sunday morning Chops, between the Hyper, SMC-R and H2... How is project R1 going? Looking forward to seeing what you do to that.
Haha yes indeed they do 😄 Yes R1 project is still go, just been so busy with everything it's taken a back seat 😳
I love this bike. However, how can you have any problems to report, when you have only done 4k miles 🤔
Spites corner just had a likely coolant temp sensor issue happen with under 400.miles. kept the fan from coming on. so with a KTM,yes,aparently.
😬
17:03 That was a steep hill, mate
I had a new 2017 it looked lovely but spent all its first summer in the dealer waiting for a new rocker arm 😢.
Oh no that's not good 😐
Zero issues with my ‘23 as well. Couldn’t be happier with my purchase.
Any chance we can get a ‘How To’ from Chopsy for the valve check/adjustment?
Haha, well in 2k miles time maybe 😁👍
Hi mate just bought a Husky TR650 Strada, have you ever ridden one? It seems fun for now!
No sorry I have not 👍
Chops what ever happened to the guy that was making a left hand bike for these? I know he made the thumb brake but have been waiting for an update from you on the rear hand brake??
Really??
Can you bypass the abs system and just go straight through to the caliper.
Yes that's an option, wanted to try and keep it though
Think you could swap 'fat' for strongman frame,or wrestler body, or warrior frame 😊💪💪💪👍👍
Loved mine but the false neutrals killed it for me. Did every upgrade etc etc never sorted it
Is that brake hose loop necessary on the shorter travel smcr and would you consider deleting the abs?
Yeah I'm at the stage where ABS deletion is looking like the best option now 😕
My mate got pulled for having a numberplate at that angle. Just something to watch out for mate
If I'm being pulled over on this the numberplate is the least of my worries 😅👍
@@LambChopRides Fair point that 😂😂
Four thousand miles on one bike isn't much of a baseline for reliability. Never had any issues with baby brembo on the front of the 2016 Enduro, which is still happy to pull rolling endos after eight years and 14,000 miles. The 690 engine reliability is less of a shitshow than 790s and 890s, but not without common faults that KTM never corrects.
The blingy little finned oil filter cover doesn't seem like a bad idea; would be curious to learn whether there's any data indicating measurable effectiveness.
What thumb brake do you like best racetork or hell?
I've not tried the HEL version so can't comment, sorry 👍
@ thanks for the feedback, I enjoy your channel
Bonjour j ai un 500 exc 2022,c est fantastique,en dual sport,en 15x48 ,un 690 n’est pas aussi puissant ,et léger,vous avez réussi à vous y faire ?😮😊
Thumb brake never seen that before. Guessing its for wheelies.
Honestly I never thought I’d see this bike ride out from cardboard boxes again. So much so I’d forgotten about its very existence.
Do the mirrors pick up cars with flashing blue lights? They usually have sirens as well.
No problems with KTM cam wear?
Yes you can see blue flashing lights in it Andrew 😄👍
When are you expecting chopsy?😂😉
It's fish eye effect expectancy
Ktm's are so flawed, Ive owned a few and know that all to well, but the 690 is one of the most fun engines you'll ever use. Blasting away from traffic lights is addictive, on the road all that low down torque is a riot!
Do you have the SMCR playlist? I can’t see it on my phone? I thought you had one?
I think actually they are all in my garage video playlist sorry 👍
@ Thanks I’ve found them. 👍
Did you sell your H2? Thought I saw it on one of those raffle competitions the other day.
No still got it 👍
Takes 1.7 litres of oil! Had my '17 690 Duke R for a few years now and reliability has been solid. It's sad that KTM have moved away from the big single that made them who they are in favour of unreliable short model life span twins which now seem pretty close to killing the company
Ah only that much! Shows it's due a change 😁
Yeah I put 3k ish miles per year on mine so annually works well
I’d love one but I’m a one bike at a time person, been looking at them but not sure if it’ll be too impractical. Most of my riding is just local brapping, occasional track days, occasional dual carriageway
So, it is a brilliant bike for that ! It is just not a convenient bike for highway or long trips.
perfect bike for that
Chops, I am so undecided, I have a 2019 SDR that I have had from new, and I am coming up on wanting a SDGT, HOWEVER, I have wanted a 690SMCR for as long as I have known about them. I can only afford one bike, what do I do?
It's a little bit restricted coming from an SDR... Meaning it's not going to be nowhere near as versatile as the SDR let alone the SDGT! tough one.. 👍
690....more fun ..wheelies,back road ~
1290...more balls to the wall...
Tough call....I opted for the 690...
690 has a much better unicycle mode
Especially after disabling aunt Nanny's
The graphics are OTT but its still a cool bike
Everything but the gearbox Chopsy!! 😉
Left hand fork leg pinch bolt looks loose
Yes good spot! 👍
Never sell bikes are the best!
Don't worry about the old dears hearing it seemed to only effect one of her ears
That Karen covering her ear in disgust was hilarious
Be good to see a comparison with the Ducati Mono.
Yes that was the plan this year but had trouble getting hold of one.. next year for sure 👍
@@LambChopRidesI have both. Very comparable bikes, but too expensive to fix the fueling issues on the Hyper since the only choice right now is to buy Ducatis crazy expensive exhaust package. Once an aftermarket ECU flash is available for the 698, it'll be very comparable to the KTM. Both great bikes 👍
I have an Aprilia SXV 450, I think it rides better, this KTM is a tractor is to heavy and not for dirt roads.
This smcr 690, or the MT07/MT09. The SMCR could do some minor off road, but otherwise what justifies it against a naked?
Because....why not?! Depends how and where you ride🤷🏻 MTs are a bit...generic I suppose, but not bad bikes of course 👍🏻
@Chris71920 I am inclined towards a supermoto, because of the ground clearance, and longer suspension travel, that enables you to off road. As for tires, tkc70 front, tkc70 ROCs, at the back l, should do the trick for both road, and dirt. This is how I used my DRZ 400 SM. I always fancied an MT, but as you said, a bit too generic, for having just one bike.
Everything? Where's the RCS15?
Could u compare 690 vs HM1100
Yes I will do that next year 👍
@@LambChopRides and about M4 calipers from HM1100 guess u have to use right mastercylinder (from Ducatis forums - M50s have 30mm pistons in the calipers.
P4s have 32mm Pistons in the calipers.
M4s have 34mm pistons.
M50s use a 16mm piston radial Master Cylinder,
MTS' use an 18mm piston radial MC,
M4's are paired with a 19mm radial MC.
So they say, that the ideal ratio of volume from the calipers to the master cylinder is around 27:1 or so.
30:1 - soft feel
27:1 - sweet spot for design
23:1 - firm feel
20:1 - wooden feel) imho - M50 will be better - KTM use it for SMC450
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Brakes brakes.... I have a 701 with the same problem. I destroyed my abs with a aftermarket, moto wheels. My mate says the abs hurts bleeding the brakes. He reckons that the bike has to be running. So the abs systems is on? At $400 for the new cable to the back wheel. I'm not keen on buying a new cable seeing it has shut down the abs system. No dongle needed 👍👍👍 Try bleeding a break with the motorbike running let us know please. Bye Justin
OK will do 👍
Where’s the hypermotard
Paint started to flake off my crank case cover. Bikes done 4k miles. KTM want nothing to do with it even though the bike is in warranty. Pathetic really. Apart from that, great bike. Rode it up to Scotland from Kent and then slapped another 2k miles on it. No issues bar the paint work debacle.
They make it look like the Honda CRF.
Hope it was built before KTM started building their engine components out of cheese.
Finally back lol.
Btw I got a bike suited for large riders… 890 SMT. I found the 690 SM too small. Thats the dilemma of tall and heavy riders. We love bikes we don’t fit on. 😡 The SMT is the supermoto for fat people 😂 because the rear end, subframe and shock are designed for more weight.