Yo, dude, just want to say thanks for all the work you put into making these videos. I've referenced them countless times while working on my own stuff. Keep it up! (please)
@@REAPERMania kenny which method is better for making sure all the vocals are the same volume for rap vocals using the method you use here or using the gain riding method you showed in other video vs using a plug in
Kenny, I literally sit in my studio and when I need advice on something, I pull up one of your videos and dramatically improve my mixes each time. Thanks man, you're awesome.
Kenny, these videos are really helping me to navigate my way through the seemingly impenetrable woods that is music production. Huge thanks, I watch these tutorials more than you may realise. A big cheers mate from South London.
Kenny. You’re a fucking national treasure, my friend. I can’t tell you how much your tutorials have helped me. Of the channels I watch to learn this stuff (and there are a few GREAT ones) , you have the best signal to noise ratio, the most effective, the most important techniques I’ve ever learned. The fact that this is free on TH-cam is such a blessing for anyone who really wants to learn. Thank you.
Firstly, who on earth disliked this video?Secondly, thanks to Kenny for this and all his videos, I have learnt SO much about recording and producing by watching his tutorials over and over again.
I have watched this video so many times now and getting more and more to it... it definitely requires some subjective artwork and talent to do this mixing.
Well that is another way of pre fx editing for sure. The original way of object (item) editing you pointed out at the beginning is at least if not more effective I find. The sliced items can then have thier own special fx if needed - de-ss, thump cut etc. So yeah. Best try both methods and see which gets you done the fastest.
Agreed. Riding vocal is a must to make it sit perfectly in mix. Andy Wallace relies mostly on riding volume automation to make his punchy aggressive mixes.
great stuff... but I was so hoping that you'd undo all that pre-fx tweaking and then say, "But we can do this automatically with..." but I guess my expectations were too high! One final thing: for us newbies, when you're tweaking settings in ReaComp, it would be great to know exactly why you do that. For example, you switch on Auto make-up, but I have no idea what this is or does so don't know why to switch it on. Small stuff though because the video is very clear and informative.
Thanks for the video. Great learning resource. One question though. Why do you use volume automation (third step) when you have already taken care of it in the previous two steps? ( I may assume, it may be required in dialogue or other tracks where levels are drastically low or inconsistent even after compression). In this case, I suppose you used it to show ALL the steps one might need in their workflow, given the project, right?
Thank you for the excellent tutorial! Can someone please tell me if this song has been released somewhere? And if so, then what it's called? I absolutely love it.
I wish you wouldve explained some things better towards the end. What you were doing and WHY. After "Bring down the threshold until it compresses evenly"... what does that mean to compress evenly? Where would I find out if it's compressing evenly and what does that look like? Is there a reason you're going back and forth from the threshold to the wet meter and adjusting them? What does that Enveope window do when you mess with the pre comp attack and release buttons? I know you say it'll "grab or regrab" a not in the phrase but what does it mean to "grab" a note and what does grabbing a note do? I can follow your instructions here but if I don't know WHY I'm doing it all you're doing is teaching me how to compress the vocals for this singular song you're working on and not giving me tips on how to apply this in the future.
You should check out a general tutorial on compression. Dan Worrall did an excellent three-part tutorial for Fabfilter, using Fabfilter Pro-C 2 (hosted in Reaper), but 90% of what he says applies to any compressor. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/BIVfpsoPnOo/w-d-xo.html
cool video but what benefit does volume pre fx have benefit wise over clip gain? seems like not as fast as clip gaining all of them. Is there some sort of benefit to volume pre fx over clip gain I missed?
I have a question but first i want to thank you for your videos. They have helped my production huge! For this video, exactly is there a plug-in or faster way to do this without manually doing pulling down parts to keep them even? I produce for my hiphop group and I always have 3 sets of vocals to do this on and it takes hours! Would love to find a faster way!
you're essentially prepping the vocal before hitting the compressor. ultimately just eases the burden on the compressor and everything hitting it will be more consistent. Also means your post FX automation wont need to be as drastic.
I am holding control it is not drawing anything.The pencil shows up,but nothing is drawing.Do I have to set something up in some settings some place first?
When I open my pre fader volume envelope, the green line does not sit in the middle of the peaks, it's above them and white lines running through it are not the same width apart, they get closer together as it gets to the bottom, have you got different settings on than me Kenny..?? Thanks Rik
Ooook... And I was just cutting them into bazillion pieces and adjusting volume in each seperately ending up with trillions balzillions tracks and having trouble finding anything, hahahahaha! Thank you for showing me an easy way.
I like to throw Vocal Rider (Waves) on a track and let it write the entire automation lane first.. and then go back and adjust as necessary. It's the easiest way to get a strong starting point.
Hi Kenny! First of, thank you for the amazing videos, they are suuuuuper helpful! I have a quick question. I am currently working on a project with two vocal tracks, now I've made all the pre fx configs on the first track and I was wondering, is there a war to copy these points and instert them for the second vocal track or do I have to try to "copy"it myself by doing it again?
Click on the original envelope. Hit copy (Control-C / Command-C). Select the new envelope, hit paste (Control-V / Command-V). Simple as that. But make sure your edit cursor is at the same place when you paste, as it will paste the envelope points starting from the edit cursor. You can also copy just part of the envelope by right-click-dragging a selection box over the envelope points you want, then Copy (Control or Command-C), then go to the destination envelope and Paste (Control/Command-V).
Yo, dude, just want to say thanks for all the work you put into making these videos. I've referenced them countless times while working on my own stuff. Keep it up! (please)
Thank you
@@REAPERMania kenny which method is better for making sure all the vocals are the same volume for rap vocals using the method you use here or using the gain riding method you showed in other video vs using a plug in
Kenny, I literally sit in my studio and when I need advice on something, I pull up one of your videos and dramatically improve my mixes each time. Thanks man, you're awesome.
Kenny, these videos are really helping me to navigate my way through the seemingly impenetrable woods that is music production. Huge thanks, I watch these tutorials more than you may realise. A big cheers mate from South London.
Man...Kenny...don't ever stop helping us all get better and better at what we love doing. You have changed my world!
Kenny.
You’re a fucking national treasure, my friend. I can’t tell you how much your tutorials have helped me. Of the channels I watch to learn this stuff (and there are a few GREAT ones) , you have the best signal to noise ratio, the most effective, the most important techniques I’ve ever learned. The fact that this is free on TH-cam is such a blessing for anyone who really wants to learn. Thank you.
Tnanks Kenny and thanks Reaper team.... This DAW is the only one with very honnest price and super video tutorials!! Many thanks!
this song makes me imagine a freakish man-child-horse creature running rampant in the wild.
Glad someone is on the same page as me
Coming this summer to the Marvel Cinematic Universe...
😂😂😂
lmao
And maybe he had a very famous t.v. show back in the 90's or something..
Firstly, who on earth disliked this video?Secondly, thanks to Kenny for this and all his videos, I have learnt SO much about recording and producing by watching his tutorials over and over again.
Extremely useful and simple. A few lessons in one, here. Keep it up, Kenny. Your videos are like the holy scriptures to many!
Thanks
Your de-essing technique and this technique is powerful for dialogue editing in documentaries. Kudos.
I have watched this video so many times now and getting more and more to it... it definitely requires some subjective artwork and talent to do this mixing.
GUYS.. For the final level automation I highly recommend Live Rider , it is great and in real time it takes charge of it that easily.
Well that is another way of pre fx editing for sure. The original way of object (item) editing you pointed out at the beginning is at least if not more effective I find. The sliced items can then have thier own special fx if needed - de-ss, thump cut etc. So yeah. Best try both methods and see which gets you done the fastest.
It is just amazing! I just wonder how you made appear the mixer & the fader just left to the track panel???
holy crap this blew me away. I'd been trying so hard with JUST the compressor...never thought to use that pre fx thing...
Very grateful for your videos. You are taking me into the professional realm!
Agreed. Riding vocal is a must to make it sit perfectly in mix. Andy Wallace relies mostly on riding volume automation to make his punchy aggressive mixes.
great stuff... but I was so hoping that you'd undo all that pre-fx tweaking and then say, "But we can do this automatically with..." but I guess my expectations were too high! One final thing: for us newbies, when you're tweaking settings in ReaComp, it would be great to know exactly why you do that. For example, you switch on Auto make-up, but I have no idea what this is or does so don't know why to switch it on. Small stuff though because the video is very clear and informative.
My searches always end here. I learn from other people too but Kenny has the newest tricks.
Thanks for the video. Great learning resource. One question though. Why do you use volume automation (third step) when you have already taken care of it in the previous two steps? ( I may assume, it may be required in dialogue or other tracks where levels are drastically low or inconsistent even after compression). In this case, I suppose you used it to show ALL the steps one might need in their workflow, given the project, right?
yeah, like 0.15dB would make a difference
Always good info Kenny, thank you!!
Thank you for the excellent tutorial! Can someone please tell me if this song has been released somewhere? And if so, then what it's called? I absolutely love it.
amazing video, many thanks!
Oh man! I think I've been adjusting with the post fader and then throwing the compressor on there. Thanks for the heads up.
Amazing video! Thanks!
THIS IS SO COOL I DIDNT KNOW I COULD SO THIS!!
I learned that on mixing in reel time video :)
ya i like using pre-fx too , to start
Been following your tutorials since my engineer reference. He has been right!!!
Reaper is next level been using it for two years now 🔥🥇
Thanks Kenny for this excellent tutorial and all the other amazing videos that you take the time to do, it's most appreciated!!
Great video! Very in depth! Thank you!
2:03 I don't have that little button to adjust the level. Any adjusting I can do is just down, no way to amplify. Please help. What did I miss?
I wish you wouldve explained some things better towards the end. What you were doing and WHY. After "Bring down the threshold until it compresses evenly"... what does that mean to compress evenly? Where would I find out if it's compressing evenly and what does that look like? Is there a reason you're going back and forth from the threshold to the wet meter and adjusting them? What does that Enveope window do when you mess with the pre comp attack and release buttons? I know you say it'll "grab or regrab" a not in the phrase but what does it mean to "grab" a note and what does grabbing a note do? I can follow your instructions here but if I don't know WHY I'm doing it all you're doing is teaching me how to compress the vocals for this singular song you're working on and not giving me tips on how to apply this in the future.
You should check out a general tutorial on compression. Dan Worrall did an excellent three-part tutorial for Fabfilter, using Fabfilter Pro-C 2 (hosted in Reaper), but 90% of what he says applies to any compressor. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/BIVfpsoPnOo/w-d-xo.html
Wow Kenny. You make it look so fast and easy. I guess that comes with experience. Thanks
Thanks for your wonderful help.
cool video but what benefit does volume pre fx have benefit wise over clip gain? seems like not as fast as clip gaining all of them. Is there some sort of benefit to volume pre fx over clip gain I missed?
It's very useful for small sections and changes where you don't want to have to split each item.
❤❤❤❤Thank you so much sir very useful ❤❤❤❤❤
This video was immensely helpful for a vocal I was having trouble with. I just thought that compression solved everything.
I have a question but first i want to thank you for your videos. They have helped my production huge! For this video, exactly is there a plug-in or faster way to do this without manually doing pulling down parts to keep them even? I produce for my hiphop group and I always have 3 sets of vocals to do this on and it takes hours! Would love to find a faster way!
Best tutorials
Very professional way to do it. Kenny as ever, you make a potentially confusing concept clear. ✊
So helpful! Thank you... I’ve already used one of your tips today!
10:04 what is the shortcut key to open mixer that can be manually functioned.
Cmd + M on mac, ctrl + M on PC
wonderful tutorial. thanks keny
All hail Reaper. You guys are doing it right.
Thanks Kenny.
Btw, why is isn’t necessary anymore to totally silent those low waveform (no words/so singing parts). Thanks!
THX. I don't understand the concept of preFx enveloppe before the compressor but I'll learn. I'll be back ... after one question on the Reaper forum.
you're essentially prepping the vocal before hitting the compressor. ultimately just eases the burden on the compressor and everything hitting it will be more consistent. Also means your post FX automation wont need to be as drastic.
Thx for the explanation. :)
yup
To be honest I forgot that trick was explained on "Mixing in Reel Time" that I purchased. Long time learning curve :) .
thank you Kenny
Always a good video! Kenny! ♥♥♥
Very powerful information, thank you so much !
Thank you very much for making these videos! They are really helpful and just at the right time! Cheers!
Thank you for helping me learn how to do this
Hola, existe alguna herramienta que lo haga automáticamente?
could you do a vid on this being vocal riding auto using mdulation . vocle riding. love your vids x
Thanks so much Kenny!
Great thanks that was very helpful What song is that?
Can anyone show me where the tutorial is where the same can be done automatically. without infrequent settings. I've seen it but can't find it again
I’m stuck how do you get that mixer to show up ???? Help please
I am holding control it is not drawing anything.The pencil shows up,but nothing is drawing.Do I have to set something up in some settings some place first?
This is great! I am getting kind if sick of my Pro Tools, ready to jump for Reaper
This video is just what I was looking for beside I didn't know what was it :) Thank you very much
Thank you so much sir!! This tutorial is fantastic!!
I love Reaper!
Your vids help me a ton!
Great video man.
When I open my pre fader volume envelope, the green line does not sit in the middle of the peaks, it's above them and white lines running through it are not the same width apart, they get closer together as it gets to the bottom, have you got different settings on than me Kenny..??
Thanks Rik
Did you figure it out ?
If you havent,... right click over the envelope, a menu will pop up. Then go to envelope defaults and click "amplitude scaling"...
What is the name of that song and the band? Love the song.
"Ima"
REAPER mania are you able to share the name of the song and the band that played it please?
@@dudleydooright 😂
I love you man, just love u
Hi! He's Kenny Gioia.
PLEASE HELP ME, I do not have the "enveloppe" button on my Reaper. PLEASE help
Ooook... And I was just cutting them into bazillion pieces and adjusting volume in each seperately ending up with trillions balzillions tracks and having trouble finding anything, hahahahaha! Thank you for showing me an easy way.
PERFECT JOB!
Thank you. 💎
I think this works better than the way it does now (2021)
Can I listen to this song?
I like to throw Vocal Rider (Waves) on a track and let it write the entire automation lane first.. and then go back and adjust as necessary. It's the easiest way to get a strong starting point.
Zi definitely learned something!
I'm running Version 6 but don't have the item volume control knob like you do after you split the track. How do I enable that?
I used to do that after compressor ... this seems more effective ... thanks man ... :D
Thank you so much😊
How do you draw your lines so straight?!
You are the absolute best!
Why would using the cut and adjust each phrase method readjust after the compressor? I'm confused by that. Please clarify. Great videos by the way
amazing!!
Thanks Kenny! so does the eq work come after or the fore the what you just showed us?
can you tell me why my envelope (the green thing) is around all my vocal wave and in yours is under it ?
Really Thank you 🙏🏼
Great video! I am using Reaper and I don't see that volume option on my tracks. Is there an option I don't have turned on? Thanks.
thanks for the work
came here to find out what song it was.. love it... good tutorial too! so.. whats the song?
Kenny you are a genius :)
Where can i find that song please
Thank you so much
Is that a DC off-set case?
You make me excited to learn😣
Hello, how much do you charge to mix & master a song on reaper
dude you're a genius thank youu soooo much
Hi Kenny! First of, thank you for the amazing videos, they are suuuuuper helpful!
I have a quick question. I am currently working on a project with two vocal tracks, now I've made all the pre fx configs on the first track and I was wondering, is there a war to copy these points and instert them for the second vocal track or do I have to try to "copy"it myself by doing it again?
Click on the original envelope. Hit copy (Control-C / Command-C). Select the new envelope, hit paste (Control-V / Command-V). Simple as that. But make sure your edit cursor is at the same place when you paste, as it will paste the envelope points starting from the edit cursor. You can also copy just part of the envelope by right-click-dragging a selection box over the envelope points you want, then Copy (Control or Command-C), then go to the destination envelope and Paste (Control/Command-V).