There was no reason for McDonald’s to have special DS games made to train employees. There was no reason to have special branded consoles to run those games on. There was especially no reason for the devs to go as hard as they did on every aspect of the games, including the music. But they did all that and it’s amazing to learn about and witness all these years later. It truly makes for a strange but incredibly interesting footnote in video game history.
a few details, for one thing the passwords are unique to each cartridge having been set by management at each location so having the password is still critical and to log into each user and access their personal info and use a few other features you need each users login info and log in with their info instead of the manager one you used. that employee you made will have the a default password of all 0 until you manually change it and its not too hard to recover all the passwords and logins on the cart to get all the passwords off of it you need to use a modded dsi/3ds and backup the save file, then open it in a hex editor and the logins and associated passwords are all right in there only being encrypted with a simple substitution cypher, the key to decrypt them isnt too well known but ive got it somewhere if anyone is interested
@@trevor245 all the passwords are in the save file, all of them. none of the passwords are in the rom and only one password is universal between cartridges and its not even one most users will care about given what it does.
by the way... anyone have seen Nick Robinson video ?, what i wanna know is.... how many people outside japan own this Catridge ?, cuz i only see 2 video that discussing this cartridge, 1 from Nick Robinson, and 1 from The Retro Future
@@daystormzx2733 three are in known hands, codie or however he spells it actually has the first of them, but hes in france and they have wierd copyright laws so he refused to dump it, he did however provide everything needed to crack into one lacking its codes. but otherwise yes, they are quite rare and im not aware of anyone else who has one at this point, there were others but they were unknown people just posting this cool thing they got and cant use since the codes werent a known factor yet
It is crazy that this game and the McDonald's DSi used to be insanely rare, and after the Nick Robinson video you can find the games relatively easily and the DSis are everywhere
I wish we had those here in the states back when I flipped burgers. Probably would have learned more from the game than the manager training me. And I bet those taught employees how to clean the freaking ice cream machine at close.
I love how he says "Nick paid $3500 for this" but won't say how much HE paid, haha. Yikes. Super cool stuff but man that is way too much money imo, lol.
Welcome to the life of a collector, rarer items cost ALOT lol- my most expensive piece is a tamagotchi that’s worth 100+ but I grabbed it right before production stopped on em
I mean he got 2 DSi-s, the eCDP cartridge, and the passcode to play the game. You could say each DSi-s costs $1.5k at the time, and the rest costs $500. He was also the one who unlocked the floodgate for these thing availability, as many Japanese realized their possession have value. He probably also made his money back through that video+sponsorship.
Thanks to Nick's video, I was able to play this baby on a flash cart. Glad you were able to get your hams on one. You have a piece of history and another example of Japan being one of the coolest places on earth
Which is ironic given how hard left that site has always been and all the degeneracy it promoted over the years. If the dude was gay, trans, or best yet, Black™, and pull the same crap he'd been just fine.
@bluehawk56 Because its never made for consumer use. Usually once these mediums becomes obsolete, the stores have to return their unit, which will be disposed/trashed afterwards, making it really rare. These few copies left were lucky to survive the disposal, either thanks to the higher staff/employee wanting to keep them or it got somehow " lost & found " on someone else's hands.
@KristiyanT because it was lost for ten years and only one article had footage from it and that was basically the only proof anyone had that it even existed you should watch nick robin sons video on it it pretty awesome
You own eSmart 2.0? Is it okay for you if you dump it? You can contact me if you want to do it. I think the Homebrew Community would be very happy if you would help us.
There is an ongoing English translation project for eCDP game! Some people might think it already died due to not getting any progress, but it's got some new progress recently
When I worked at McDonald's around 2005 or so, I was trained with a program on a computer but it was similar where you'd have to put stuff together and learn to make sandwiches just on a PC.
How did you get this? it was nowhere to be found for ages, now every channel seems to have this game. I'd say this is a replica cartridge patched with custom password and a replica DSI case
Yeah seen/heard enough from the Nick Robinson video a year/months ago about it, was worth a watch this way though to see than other footage people have done being fine but kind of not the same as just a focus this way and how others go about covering the training program. I think the graph/history part uses the two screens well. The art/gameplay I assume work out well with the touch screen to make it a really good learning experience to learn to get the general idea of how to make things, going from screen to screen sliding things over seems a bit awkward but oh well the details are there for sure like the cooked/uncooked, a quiz, many different items prepared different ways, information/steps on how to do it. Who knows what recipes are technically leaked or not as relevant anymore and I forget which items in it they don't have instructions or have included for it but then again it is based on Japanese menu items and a few standard menu items also. The intro video seems pretty decent quality on a DS, they always have to make it look so happy and so on though, can't have just shovelling fries/chips or burger patties on the grill got to have those people reaction shots in there (never like those but they always do it in advertising and things and it creeps my out I know they are made by humans not robots I don't need it pointed out to me or seeing creepy smiles and how people react it makes me feel the opposite of happy thank you companies, you keep failing that and creeping me out stop it).
Hey, I'm sure you already know, but Google Translate has a great feature on its mobile app to help with instantaneous translation. You choose the languages you want to translate and press the camera button below the text field. You can either point at whatever you want to translate or you can have a photo ready. It's very helpful! It also helps to select the text from the photo, copy it, and translate it back in the main app to see where errors might have occurred.
6:42 - In case anyone was curious what the questions and answers were: 1.) The world's first McDonald's store is where? America Japan England 2.) McDonald's holds a contest with a certain purpose, what is that purpose? Skill improvement Academic improvement Physical fitness improvement 3.) Which sandwich has lettuce in it? Big Mac Double cheeseburger Filet of fish 4.) What system allows you to buy goods without getting out of your car? Drive-In Drive-thru Take out 5.) Which of the following nutrients is most abundant in milk? Iron Vitamin a Calcium 6.) Cheese or Patty, which one is on top? There is no rule Cheese Patty 7.) McDonald's has a training school, what is the name of this school? Big Mac University McDonald's University Hamburger University 8.) Where do McDonald's beef patties come from? Made in Australia / New Zealand Made in America / Canada Made in Matsusaka / Iwate 9.) What kind of cheese does McDonald's use? McDonald's original cheese Commercially available cheese Cheese made on a dedicated ranch 10.) What is this special brush used for cleaning? Toilet Shake machine Uniform
hey Eliot im a big fan but would you mind if you fixed my 3ds its modded and some of the paint has been chipped away and the back slot of where the battery is a nail broke off and the top screen is a bit scratched so yeah i hope you dont mind id be very great full if you do
4:17 I wouldn't call that unnecessary it is 2007 ...imagine having this everytime you go wifi setting or smth ...it gives you sense of lifeness or ordinary things...
This made me look up a translated rom of this and I played it on my Homebrewed New 3DS via TwilightMenu++ which was a lot of fun! You can do it on DeSmuME as well but wanted to experience it on the hardware itself lol.
For performance and accuracy, I'd recommend MelonDS (if you can dump your BIOS/firmware. DSi firmware will work apparently too, you just have to set it to boot right into the game instead of the home screen. Can't confirm that though because I don't own a DSi.)
Ive been trying to figure out how to make a controller mod for my SP so i can sit back and play at my desk, video idea? i havent seen a walktrough like that on google so far.
The fact that you got 3 out of 10 right without knowing Japanese is not admirable. It is the the proof, that stochastic actually works, because statistically, three is the expected value.
Hello Elliot i was wondering where i should buy a Gameboy like the one you used in a fan sent me their broken Gameboy or the one from the best Gameboy deal of my life.
There was no reason for McDonald’s to have special DS games made to train employees. There was no reason to have special branded consoles to run those games on. There was especially no reason for the devs to go as hard as they did on every aspect of the games, including the music. But they did all that and it’s amazing to learn about and witness all these years later. It truly makes for a strange but incredibly interesting footnote in video game history.
Wouldn't it be crazy if there was a McDonald's Switch game like this instead haha that would be weird
#toystorymemes
@@aiyanaplayzroblox2150 What?
a few details, for one thing the passwords are unique to each cartridge having been set by management at each location so having the password is still critical and to log into each user and access their personal info and use a few other features you need each users login info and log in with their info instead of the manager one you used. that employee you made will have the a default password of all 0 until you manually change it and its not too hard to recover all the passwords and logins on the cart
to get all the passwords off of it you need to use a modded dsi/3ds and backup the save file, then open it in a hex editor and the logins and associated passwords are all right in there only being encrypted with a simple substitution cypher, the key to decrypt them isnt too well known but ive got it somewhere if anyone is interested
Wouldn't you be able to decipher the main password as well by dumping the game files?
@@trevor245 all the passwords are in the save file, all of them. none of the passwords are in the rom and only one password is universal between cartridges and its not even one most users will care about given what it does.
by the way... anyone have seen Nick Robinson video ?, what i wanna know is.... how many people outside japan own this Catridge ?, cuz i only see 2 video that discussing this cartridge, 1 from Nick Robinson, and 1 from The Retro Future
@@daystormzx2733 three are in known hands, codie or however he spells it actually has the first of them, but hes in france and they have wierd copyright laws so he refused to dump it, he did however provide everything needed to crack into one lacking its codes. but otherwise yes, they are quite rare and im not aware of anyone else who has one at this point, there were others but they were unknown people just posting this cool thing they got and cant use since the codes werent a known factor yet
@@daystormzx2733 probably quite a few more. They are rare but not impossible to find.
pull up to a mcdonalds and show them
Nah. Knowing the Maccie D’s in this area, they would probably try to take it off Elliot.
😬
@@sotkajarvi - Yup
bro twths crazy🤯
I wish he would do that and show it on video, but as someone said above, it'd probably be risky
It is crazy that this game and the McDonald's DSi used to be insanely rare, and after the Nick Robinson video you can find the games relatively easily and the DSis are everywhere
But they are still expensive as hell, so it was probably some people that have them but just didn’t knew the worth
I'm suspecting reproduction cartridges. SInce the rom is easily downloadable, there must be some chinese fakes around now.
BIG WUMPUS BOI
I guess after Nick's video went exploded, many Japanese people who possess these things sitting in dust realized that it actually has value.
It's likely that nobody knew they were valuable before that video.
I think it would be 35 to 50 seconds. I wouldn't wait 35 to 50 minutes for a McDonalds burger.
Consider: Good quality takes time...
:D
@@kyx5631 they ain’t good quality tho
I wish we had those here in the states back when I flipped burgers. Probably would have learned more from the game than the manager training me. And I bet those taught employees how to clean the freaking ice cream machine at close.
You clean the machine?? Our local shop said it helps build immunity
You flipped burgers, you needed a course. At McDonald's we crossed burgers
@@Robbnlinzi i don't think your state's department of health would agree
I love how he says "Nick paid $3500 for this" but won't say how much HE paid, haha. Yikes. Super cool stuff but man that is way too much money imo, lol.
Welcome to the life of a collector, rarer items cost ALOT lol- my most expensive piece is a tamagotchi that’s worth 100+ but I grabbed it right before production stopped on em
He might be borrowing it for the video
I mean he got 2 DSi-s, the eCDP cartridge, and the passcode to play the game.
You could say each DSi-s costs $1.5k at the time, and the rest costs $500.
He was also the one who unlocked the floodgate for these thing availability, as many Japanese realized their possession have value.
He probably also made his money back through that video+sponsorship.
Great to see you back in the swing of things Eliot! Love the new content
Please someone get this legend a 3DS XL Louvre tour guide version
That's a thing? I gotta see one.
I only have the cartridge (they sold it at the Louvre gift shop), but the specific console was only available for rent to tourists.
@@LobsterJim exactly. I was trying to remember how much it cost o rent it, maybe 20-ish euro?
it's already done, some are already on sale in china.
They still use them in the louvre
Just hearing Elliot’s voice just makes me happy!
I used to be a manager at a McDonald's, but my training was very limited in the kitchen so I feel that this game would've helped me considerably
A few semesters ago I had to do a case study on McDonald's. I actually referenced this game for said project and it was intresting
Thanks to Nick's video, I was able to play this baby on a flash cart. Glad you were able to get your hams on one. You have a piece of history and another example of Japan being one of the coolest places on earth
Where where you able to get oneive been tring to get the÷nglish one for awhile but i dont really know where to start
Nick Robinson was fired from Polygon for sexual misconduct a few years back and is a super creep imo
Which is ironic given how hard left that site has always been and all the degeneracy it promoted over the years. If the dude was gay, trans, or best yet, Black™, and pull the same crap he'd been just fine.
Ik it’s been a year and I’m late hut could you explain in more detail pls
I remember watching Nick Robinson's video about McDonald's DS game and it's cool that you have this game!
You should make a "McDonald's staff members, where are they now?" Video lol
next time we're gonna see him pull out an extremely rare DS cartridge with nuclear launch codes.
Retro handheld youtuber now has training to work at McDonalds!
With the way my Mcdonald's messes stuff up, I think they need to release a training sequel on switch.
I love how diverse a 10+ year old game is from Japan that was only for mcdonalds lmao
@bluehawk56 Because its never made for consumer use.
Usually once these mediums becomes obsolete, the stores have to return their unit, which will be disposed/trashed afterwards, making it really rare.
These few copies left were lucky to survive the disposal, either thanks to the higher staff/employee wanting to keep them or it got somehow " lost & found " on someone else's hands.
@@PhantomDZ01 that guy was being so random what did my comment have to do with the question
@@mighty6588 Idk that's just YT in general sometimes lol
@KristiyanT because it was lost for ten years and only one article had footage from it and that was basically the only proof anyone had that it even existed you should watch nick robin sons video on it it pretty awesome
I also own this.
I've had both eCDP and eSmart 2.0 since March, and my McDSi since April. Cody Trentuit also helped me find my eCDP logins. 😁
Thats so cool!
Pls dump the games (especially esmart)
Is eSmart 2.0 any different?
You own eSmart 2.0? Is it okay for you if you dump it? You can contact me if you want to do it. I think the Homebrew Community would be very happy if you would help us.
@@polandman07 It was dumped by someone else in January, Forest of Illusion.
This would honestly make training people so much more consistant.
There is an ongoing English translation project for eCDP game! Some people might think it already died due to not getting any progress, but it's got some new progress recently
Glad to see you back! And love the recognition for Nick Robinson's journey on this one.
Would be interesting if some McDonald's workers here could comment on how realistic these games are to how it is trained in the west.
When I worked at McDonald's around 2005 or so, I was trained with a program on a computer but it was similar where you'd have to put stuff together and learn to make sandwiches just on a PC.
@@redalchemy
How many mega bites in each sandwich? :p
Its pretty realistic, all the machinery and layout looks like that except the toaster has different slots for the top and bottom of the buns
3/10 makes sense since that's the odds of getting it right over 10 tries with 3 options.
More rare than the E3 twilight princess preview trailer for the ds?
yes
That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
eCDP, or as I like to call it, Papa's burgeria: unobtainium edition
7:10 With three possible answers to each question, 3 out of 10 is right there with the probability of getting 1/3 correct.
How did you get this? it was nowhere to be found for ages, now every channel seems to have this game. I'd say this is a replica cartridge patched with custom password and a replica DSI case
They now have a burger making mini game built into their app as a recruitment tool. I managed to make 4 burgers in 45 seconds
Now all you need to do is Buy McDonaldland on the NES to start a Mc D’s themed Nintendo Collection. ❤ it 😂
Don't forget MC Kids.
Yeah seen/heard enough from the Nick Robinson video a year/months ago about it, was worth a watch this way though to see than other footage people have done being fine but kind of not the same as just a focus this way and how others go about covering the training program.
I think the graph/history part uses the two screens well.
The art/gameplay I assume work out well with the touch screen to make it a really good learning experience to learn to get the general idea of how to make things, going from screen to screen sliding things over seems a bit awkward but oh well the details are there for sure like the cooked/uncooked, a quiz, many different items prepared different ways, information/steps on how to do it.
Who knows what recipes are technically leaked or not as relevant anymore and I forget which items in it they don't have instructions or have included for it but then again it is based on Japanese menu items and a few standard menu items also.
The intro video seems pretty decent quality on a DS, they always have to make it look so happy and so on though, can't have just shovelling fries/chips or burger patties on the grill got to have those people reaction shots in there (never like those but they always do it in advertising and things and it creeps my out I know they are made by humans not robots I don't need it pointed out to me or seeing creepy smiles and how people react it makes me feel the opposite of happy thank you companies, you keep failing that and creeping me out stop it).
i watched a full documentary of someone getting this a while ago, how tf did you get that
Move over cooking mama...
Hey, I'm sure you already know, but Google Translate has a great feature on its mobile app to help with instantaneous translation. You choose the languages you want to translate and press the camera button below the text field. You can either point at whatever you want to translate or you can have a photo ready. It's very helpful!
It also helps to select the text from the photo, copy it, and translate it back in the main app to see where errors might have occurred.
OMG You got it as well! Nick's video was amazing.
Congrats, I wish I have it one day in the future iin my collection.
Moco moco friends...something like that for 3ds has a password so your sibling cannot delete your save file.
You should consider asking linus tech tips for his Dev Kit that way you can capture the video from the DS.
Love your channel and content man. Glad to see your back at videos like this.
Nice to see you rocking again
I hear there were people speed running this game, either former employees or complete try hards for atleast 1 speed run record 🤔
The game was dumped online. That’s how people are able to speedrun it.
I did it for the lols
6:42 - In case anyone was curious what the questions and answers were:
1.) The world's first McDonald's store is where?
America
Japan
England
2.) McDonald's holds a contest with a certain purpose, what is that purpose?
Skill improvement
Academic improvement
Physical fitness improvement
3.) Which sandwich has lettuce in it?
Big Mac
Double cheeseburger
Filet of fish
4.) What system allows you to buy goods without getting out of your car?
Drive-In
Drive-thru
Take out
5.) Which of the following nutrients is most abundant in milk?
Iron
Vitamin a
Calcium
6.) Cheese or Patty, which one is on top?
There is no rule
Cheese
Patty
7.) McDonald's has a training school, what is the name of this school?
Big Mac University
McDonald's University
Hamburger University
8.) Where do McDonald's beef patties come from?
Made in Australia / New Zealand
Made in America / Canada
Made in Matsusaka / Iwate
9.) What kind of cheese does McDonald's use?
McDonald's original cheese
Commercially available cheese
Cheese made on a dedicated ranch
10.) What is this special brush used for cleaning?
Toilet
Shake machine
Uniform
hey Eliot im a big fan but would you mind if you fixed my 3ds its modded and some of the paint has been chipped away and the back slot of where the battery is a nail broke off and the top screen is a bit scratched so yeah i hope you dont mind id be very great full if you do
most fitting that I was eating McDonald's whilst watching a video about a rare McDonald training game
You still eat McDonalds? That's *so* last decade!
Right....and I came here just to say the same thing while snorting coffee out my nose whilst reading Chuck Norris jokes.
You also have Esmart, another training game but meant to refresh knowledge not train. We have access to the second version of this one
4:17 I wouldn't call that unnecessary it is 2007 ...imagine having this everytime you go wifi setting or smth ...it gives you sense of lifeness or ordinary things...
I spotted this cartridge when you were unpacking your new office after you moved house. And was wondering when you were making a video on it
The McDonald’s cartridge, in the palm of your hand. 😁
Ah yes, the McDonalds cartridge has the power of the sun
35 - 50 minutes!?!?
I thought this was fast food 😂
@Nick Robinson made a whole documentary about retrieving one of those cartridges.
Whyy don't you use something like google lens to live translate what's on the screen? Makes it even more interesting then randomly choosing answers.
well,now that the game files have been dumped and now available for all to play,the game is not so rare anymore
I coulda swore I saw this video somewhere else. From someone else.
can you dump your save so we can use that password insted of nicks
This made me look up a translated rom of this and I played it on my Homebrewed New 3DS via TwilightMenu++ which was a lot of fun! You can do it on DeSmuME as well but wanted to experience it on the hardware itself lol.
For performance and accuracy, I'd recommend MelonDS (if you can dump your BIOS/firmware. DSi firmware will work apparently too, you just have to set it to boot right into the game instead of the home screen. Can't confirm that though because I don't own a DSi.)
I only knew of this Cart from you, though a holy grail would be one of the first DS Games that should be on a dev card somewhere
Ive been trying to figure out how to make a controller mod for my SP so i can sit back and play at my desk, video idea? i havent seen a walktrough like that on google so far.
Nick Robinson owns this too he made a video about it years ago
Do you still have the "Fancy Smancy Emulation thing"?
Awesome set and awesome video. Congrats. Well deserved
This should give you access to free McDonald's for life.
The loading animation thing scared me
The ds internet browser had a passcode option
What happens if you put it in a 3ds
It would’ve been nice if you got the eSmart 2.0 one.
Isn't there already a public rom?
Oh Elliot. Not 35-50 minutes, but 35-50 seconds.
I actually bought that game at a used market at Yongsan in South Korea in 2017 for $50🤷🏻♂️
There is a person on youtube that bought another cart of this and made it into English and let people download it. I forgot his name tho!
Well good to see it again! Congrats!
There is a action replay code to bypass that passcode stuff made by davidevgen
I think Phantasy Star Online for Dreamcast uses a serial and key.
OMG HE ACTUALLY GOT IT AHHHHHH
mcdondald game
How did you get it? Nick said he bought the only copy that was available to buy
The fact that you got 3 out of 10 right without knowing Japanese is not admirable. It is the the proof, that stochastic actually works, because statistically, three is the expected value.
I just rewatched the video where you get the mcdonalds ds and the review on it this morning
I have super Mario brothers from Nintendo DS and I got it from Amazon but the skin is blue. Any cost something dollars
There an unfinished fan translation out there though.
What is one of the rarest ds games umm McDonald’s game?
35-50 minutes? That’s why I never do drive through anymore 😂
EEEE, CEEE, DEEE, PEEE.
I remember watching the first part of this video months ago
🤔Which character looks like me ... picks the one without glasses 🤣👍
I can't believe you actually deleted something off the save data. Jesus, if I was the owner I'd be fucking pissed.
There's actually three! Ecdp, esmart, and esmart 2.0! I'll be making a video on this!
Hello Elliot i was wondering where i should buy a Gameboy like the one you used in a fan sent me their broken Gameboy or the one from the best Gameboy deal of my life.
Don’t drop the food on the floor then serve to the customer 😅
if nick didn't dump it back in 2020, we would have you to
Your are very lucky this is probably the dream for every Nintendo collector
isn't Nick Robinson the guy that ruined that one Monkey Ball game or something
60 minutes for one burger? And is it just me or are the burgers in the video actually bigger than the ones in America?
You would have good practice if you ever went for a job at Macca's 😁🙏🏽👍🏾
funny thing is that i found that next to a dumbster trashbin idk im from serbia
I have a feeling this will get taken down ngl
I've watched some fantastic documentaries here on TH-cam about this cartridge.
Now use a hot knife on it and put some game footage taking up a fifth of the screen😂😂😂
I saw a donkey Kong Atari 2600 and it was graded and sealed at 49,999.99
3 and a half thousand dollars...
Me: Ah but let me just download the NDS file and install it on my homebrewed 3ds xl for free