Casting Rings & jewellery at home - Lost Wax & PLA methods - by VOGMAN
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- A young student named Conor sent me some wax rings he'd carved. he had no way to cast them and asked if I would did it for him. I was happy to to have a go at casting his rings, and I even made one of my own from PLA on my 3D printer
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Aluminum bronze might even be oxidation resistant enough to prevent Conor's fingers turning green from wearing copper alloy jewelry. Good choice!
Why change your channel name, if I may ask?
You're the first one to ask : )
Three man reasons....
1) I'm fed up with people saying, "I was going to subscribe but when it said 'VegOilGuy' it put me off." I don't want to put anyone off with a name when I can do that perfectly well with my videos : )
2) I fancied signing some of my work, and fitting 'VOG' onto something is much easier than 'VegOilGuy.'
3) Some folks were already calling me VOG for much the same reason as 2.
4) Okay, there's four not three, it's not really a name change - just an abbreviation : )
@@vogman hey, at least they weren't complaining that they couldn't figure out how to pronounce it... 🙄
I have to be honest, I wondered exactly that as I typed your name : )
If you guys know how to prevent aluminum bronze from oxidizing, let me know. I did some rings out of it as practice, and they polish amazingly but turn black after a couple days of wear.
That doesn't surprise me. They're decoration pieces really. Precious metals are precious for a reason... our ancestors realised they could wear they and they'd stay shiny : )
I didn't know about lost PLA -- that's a real game-changer. Thank you so much for the video!
It works well. I've even made gears with it. But if you want perfect detail, castable PLA will work better.
Ballsy challenge you had here matey great results ya big showoff! 👏🏻😁👍🏻🍻🍻🍻
I was nervous mate. If it had gone wrong Conor would have lost all his work. I was lucky I guess : )
Of course. BigD is a hero and a mate : )
Love that Celtic style ring - looks the bomb. Must have taken him a long time to carve... super job mate 🍺👍👍👍
He's clearly a talented guy with plenty of time ahead of him to hone his skills : )
this is so cool!!! I’ve always wanted to design something and have it cast in metal
This is a heart-warming video. The wax and PLA rings came out very well too.
Many thanks Del. I hope your next project is well underway : )
@@vogman I´m in the "post commitment, beginning to gather materials" stage : )
When Conor gets a way to cast, he is going to be doing some fine work. He has the aptitude to do great things in jewelry designing. It's good that you gave him a hand and perhaps when he see's the result it will give him the drive to set himself up in an interesting hobby or even a career. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Nicely said. Conor's done a great job here : D
I used to use that blue tape on my printbed and had a heck of a time getting prints off of it so I now only user cheap glue sticks and I can pop the prints of really easily and have had good adhesion to my mirror plate on my bed.
Great stuff!
Thanks for sharing and as always keep building👍
I tried glue sticks, hair spray, masking tape... nothing worked. But then I found a tape claiming to be made for that purpose, and it DOES work. Well worth the money : )
Awesome job hope he's happy with them your trinity knot turned out really nice👍👍
Thanks Jeff. It was a quick and dirty job on the PLA ring this time, so the results thrilled me. With a bit of TLC beforehand, that ring would have come out beautifully : )
Your did a wonderful job especially considering it was your first time casting rings. I'm sure Coner will be happy.
Thanks Susan. I hope Conar is pleased with the results : )
I love you small personal touches you add to your casting techniques, great job and I don't think you let Conner down the rings look great!!!
Thanks Jose : )
Very nice results! I am impressed with the uniform thickness of the rings.
I hope Conor will share some photos/video of his finished rings.
Let's hope so : )
Pleasant to watch and super informative! :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
They turned out great, nice work. 👍👍👍🐺
Many thanks : )
The best part of any Friday.
Thanks mate : )
Very nice thanks for sharing. The copper/aluminium looks great
In this case, it's poor man's gold : )
Hey, great job, Conor.
And really nice pour Mr. VOG.
Thanks very much : D
Nice job. Good of you to do that for him.
It was nice of him to trust me. He's clearly a good guy : )
The rings turned out great. I bet Conor appreciates the casting either way.
I hope so John. I haven't heard from him yet. He might still be in shock : )
Awesome video. You're getting better every day.
Thanks Ricardo : )
Those turned out great!
Thanks Patrick : )
Nice. I want a big pile of rings and jewellery now. Thanks for that ... :D
If only these were gold instead of bronze : )
Love it keep up the good work sir.
Thanks very much : )
Great show! I am absolutely jealous of your lost wax technique. I must try again.
Thanks Chris : )
that was really nice of you to cast that for him
We did each other a favour... I got to try casting the rings and he got the results : )
Awesome can't wait for the next video.
many thanks : )
@@vogman was curious do you reuse the parts that you use as sprues?
Yes. The leftover sprue part go into the crucible next time around. That way I know I've got enough metal to cover the sprues and only need to think about metal for the parts : )
Really cool! I'd love to see more affordable metal recipes and how the different metals look
Thanks Matthew : )
Same here; can you suggest a guide for other metal ratios?
Like and watch. Respect from Transylvania.
Thanks Jack : )
well done both of you
many thanks
Very cool rings buddy!
These came out great!
I hope you do many more videos with ring casting! :D
I love that you have got into the ring making aspect of metal casting.
I make rings out of coins, but I don't melt them.
I have many videos of coin ring making on my channel.
When I move out of this place, I will be able to make them again.
Awesome collab with Connor!
Thanx for the great vid Geoff! :D
Thanks Cap. I've heard of it being done, but I've never seen it. So I'll have to take a look : )
Yeah, Conor's a good guy. I hope he'll be pleased : )
Nice cast rings looks good.
Thanks Mike. I hope Conor will be pleased : )
Great video Geoff! As previously stated, it's a bloody gutsy effort! But, clearly you have the confidence of your followers. (I just had a Monty Python moment... "He's not the Messiah..."!) Good results overall too! Damn! Now I'm going to have to cast that Celtic ring for the missus! In the "special" alloy I was referring to.. Well done mate! Cheers. Dan
"... He's a naughty boy." But it's been a while. And surely the best line is, "Are there any women here...?"
Yes I was a little nervous. A lot of Conor's hard work could have literally gone up in smoke. Phew!
Do a nice, slow print (I rushed mine) and you'll be in the wife's good books for sure.
Thank you for your expertise!!! I’m about to 3D print some rings with PLA then cast them. I work in a plating Shop so o want to plate those aluminum rings to Gold.
Glad if I helped : )
Very cool!
Many thanks : )
Jewelry is often cast using centrifugal casting. Myfordboy used lost PLA to do centrifugal casting in a video earlier this year. Check it out!
I'm a subscriber and fan of Myfordboy, Jake, so you can be sure I've watched it. You can actually find his comments on some of my videos, which was very kind of him.
The only drawback of centrifuges, if you ignore molten metal spinning by you head, is that need to know the precise amount of metal needed in your casting. This is poured into the basin outside of the flask, and the centrifuge pushes the metal inside.
I'm not that precise in honesty. But fortunately with a homemade vacuum system like mine (th-cam.com/video/EGNnH_xbjR4/w-d-xo.html) this isn't a problem.
Thanks for your input : )
Great work
Many thanks : )
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
That is cool ill show you mine when i have done them
Please do Aaron. I love getting emails and pictures from fellow casters : )
It's finally weekend - and what an excellent beginning :-)
Good thing come to those who wait, but better things (and rings) come to those who don't give up. Have a great weekend everybody!
Good weekend buddy : )
Another perfect cast! Your experimentation always yields great results. The additional or correct sprue placement is something often overlooked, even by professional jewellery casting companies. What as the final tree weight?
Thanks Wayne. Actually I never weighed it : )
Your really tempting me to get my foundry up and running again :P
Come on Heimo, you know you want to : )
@@vogman I really do, time has been the only constrain lol
Time... the enemy of the creative process : )
Impressive.
Thanks : )
Wicked I am so going to melt down my 50 gr pamp.🤩
Have fun!
how would you be able to tell the amount of gold you'll will need for the mold afterwards?
there's a couple companies that make FDM wax filament for lost-wax 3d printed items.
I like the gold ring
Many thanks 😁
Results look pretty great to me. Nice job on this one!
Makes me want to get into this hobby even more to cast some nice signet rings from my D&D friends!
That's the fabulous thing about casting. You can make a special bracket to mount an engine part, a trophy for a tournament, rings for members, etc, etc. If you can think it and print it, you can cast it : )
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great video, thanks for sharing, do you offer 1 on 1 tutorial ?
Great video. Thank you. Coincidentally, I printed the very same ring from Thingiverse a month or so ago to test the quality of print. I am keeping it for my first cast. I am challenged with building a furnace. But I'll get there.
That's an ambitious first cast Louw, but if you use the same technique as me I think you'll get there : )
You know where I am if you need advice on electric or standard furnaces my friend. You'll do it, I'm confident of that.
@@vogman electrical?!! This is South Africa. Cost of electricity is rising excessively and some days we don't even have any. So gas or charcoal... I am not sure how I will do my burnouts yet. My first attempt many moons ago involved oven for wax melt out and then into a charcoal starter chimney. Left it burning overnight and next day it was cold and small cracks. I cast the brass into a cold mould and it came out OK. Some definition lost though.
Now I would have thought Solar would be big in your sunny climes.
If only I had a Fresnell lens. Summer temperatures up to 43 deg C here by us.
Mate... no. It was 22C the other day and I was wilting, honestly. I very hot summer in the UK can hit the early to mid 30's, but they are years apart. The 40's... no. I couldn't cope.
Hey! I'm a design student from the netherlands, i would love to try the lost PLA casting, is that printed sprue base downloadable somewhere?
SO inspiring!!!! Totally giving you a sub!!!
Thanks for subbing! You'll find a lot of casting on this channel, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask 😁
So if i sent you a lost wax mold and some rose gold, would you be able to cast an engagement ring that ive been planning? I dont have a vacuum chamber and dont have the money for a pump, but casting is the way to go for this project
I think Conner is going to be happy. I'm in the process of carving my wedding rings myself-the wife is getting a rig of bear claws stylized in my own design I use as a logo for my photography biz, going to be set with a stone tho not sure which stone, mine is going to be a ring of Fruit Loops-trying to figure out how to use different metals for each one [[her nickname is Fruit Loop]].
Mark, that's AMAZING. I'd love to see pics when they're done. Please take silicone molds before you risk any castings. I'd hate for you to lose all that hard work. Are you going to do the casting yourself or maybe hand it over to a jeweller?
@@vogman Sure! And the silicone mold. That totaally escaped me. Also considering designing it in photoshop then using a 3d program to clean it up and size it, print and cast-if I go that route I will have the fikkes as I'm working on some other unique pieces as well but the silicone is definitely getting filed into my small brain, thanks!
I was lucky with today's video. They've gone wrong in the past. There was always a gamble I'd lose Conor's work.
Don't take that risk : )
@@vogman My work *never* goes wrong. I have, however, discovered thousands of ways to do things. :D
Good...👍
Thanks Glenn : )
What is the tumbler called? I'm looking to purchase one for my jewellery
Did you use a vacuum to assist the pour?
Cool rings 👍🏻 I haven’t seen the foundry in a while. Do you still use it? When you printed the ring, what mm height did you use? Great job 🍺🍻🍻
Thanks mate. I'll be honest I don't recall. I use Cura which does all the clever thinking for me. I had it on draft I think.
Have you considered trying to make a magnetic induction foundry? I've been seeing a lot of videos here on the TH-cams of people demonstrating how it can heat and even melt metal for casting. It makes me think that if someone were willing to scale it up enough there might be a very green alternative to using fossil fuels for melting metals with exceptionally high melting points like steel and iron.
I did see a company advertising them on banggood I think. I wrote asking if they wanted me to review one but they never replied... at all. That made me sceptical. I may not be the biggest channel on TH-cam, but I hope I have a reasonable reputation for casting. So ignoring me suggested they didn't like the idea of someone who melts metal a lot having a go. Of course I could be wrong there and it might simply have got lost in the system...
@@vogman That's a bummer, but it gave me the idea to try and find some DIY instructions online; inductionheatertutorial.com/ . I think the person who did this just wanted see if they could do it, or were working on college project, and posted it online so others can repeat the experiment. Ether way, it's something to build off of, and one thing I know you are very good at is building on a good foundation. Keep searching and researching. I have faith that you'll pull this off.
Beautiful video, what type of resin do you use for casting ? Please link
There's lots of different resins available and I've reviewed a few as you can see here th-cam.com/play/PLOzaysTbaKi4bt4yl3WQI6rymVLknpEAG.html
My suggestion for pretty much everyone is Siraya Tech Cast as it's cheap and very good.
I have an SLA printer, a Peopoly Moai. Would be happy to print some rings for you to cast. I get great resolution. Think you'd prefer it over your FDM prints.
Hi Arlo. That's a very generous offer. Drop me a quick line here and we'll have a chat...
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Where do you get these wax sticks you use? Cant find them anywhere and dont know how to make them myself.
Is a spin caster necessary?
What material did you use to print the ring?
Does aluminum bronze only turn black or is it susceptible to bronze disease? Does it turn your skin green? Great cast btw.
What do you use for printing it?
Those came out amazing. Gingery lathe needs your help.
It's been done by a few others I think : )
What size flask are you using?
Good evening caould you make a ring from iron and brass for me ?
Awesome ! I really want to do that for some of my jewellery projects. What kind of oven did you use ?
Thanks. I made my own electric foundry which now tends to be used as a burnout oven. This was much cheaper than buying one.
th-cam.com/video/XypmI38IKAw/w-d-xo.html
@@vogman Thank you !!
Hello there, lovely video,
I’m just wondering do you take wax ring designs for pouring as a business? Or if not do you know of anyone that does? Thank you x
Actually I will be covering this very topic in a video is a few weeks. Keep an eye out for me Zombie ring and I'll be advising those without casting equipment how to get cast 😁😁😁
What do you do with the "burnt out" plan / wax, or does it just "vanish"?
The PLA and Wax mainly drip out of the plaster onto the oven floor where they mostly evaporate, but some fine ash gathers after a few casts. But the plaster... you're stuck with that mess : )
Was this using a vacuum or just gravity for the metal pour?
I use vacuum 😁
Hey there! Which 3D printer do you use? Also, can the used “lost wax” be reused in the printer?
Hi,
I can’t answer about the printer but as someone looking at getting into casting, no you cannot reuse the lost wax as to clear it from the mould you actually burn it away to ash
After cooking the plaster with the wax in it, does the wax melt away after pouring it?
Most of the wax drips out and what remains burns away to nothing, leaving a void ready to receive the molten metal.
@@vogman thank you. I have been doing research on making a ring for myself, it represents suicide awareness.
Quick question is the plaster still inside the ring or di the heat melt it down im confused, so is it just like dipped
The PLA and Wax both stay inside the plaster until it is heated to a very high temperature. These then melt away to leave holes in the plaster. Molten metal then fills up these holes and once cool the plaster get removed. Then you're left with the rings 😊
@@vogman ohh thanks alot
How much would you charge me to do a lost wax cast of a small trinket if i was to send it to you made out of the wax product of your choice? It would not need to be perfect. In fact some air bubles and imperfections would be what I would prefer.
So, just curious - have you tried casting brass? We're there any difficulties...?
I have cast in brass (example - th-cam.com/video/tXJ_MuffQd0/w-d-xo.html) and it's a nice metal, but the toxic fumes put me off.
Any specific type of casting plaster?
These are becoming much more accessible and diverse, which is great. You'll find powders dedicated to wax and even to resin these days. Whether there's a real difference is debateable 😁
Hello, im have a question, the aluminium bronze is toxic in rings for the aluminium??
I'm going to be honest and say I don't know. There's lots of theories about metals being toxic and I don't think there's a definitive answer yet. My guess, as long as it's occasional, it should be fine.
@@vogman ohh, It's sad I wanted to make an aluminum bronze ring to wear every day 😢
Nicely done. Are you able to take pictures or something and put it on your computer then 3D print it? Then you could have made extras if something had gone wrong. I do not know much about 3D printing and would like more information. Thank you. Great job 🍻
I'll be honest James, I'm still learning 3D printing myself. I got my Creality CR10S in January this year, and I'm very pleased with it. It's one of those things you can watch 1000 videos on, but never really grasp until you buy one and get on with it. If you do, after a week of swearing and cursing me, you'll get there. A week later, you'll see why people love them.
3D scanners are a thing, but they're a little pricey I believe. I think we'll see those becoming more and more common very soon.
@@vogman i have gotten through the first week and my printer stopped working because pla went into the screws. So I guess one more week of cursing you?
Ps: The printing was great after two days. I just have a questionable sense of humor.
It's a rare day when someone, somewhere, isn't cursing me ; )
I'm impressed with a couple of days. I had bed-sticking issues until I discovered some wonderful tape. SOOOOOOO much swearing before that : )
I know I have said it a few times that I am building a pile of meltables, but I am. I plan on building a couple different sized foundries and melt my piles for ingots and stuff. I travel a lot so I find aluminum a lot. 300 pounds at a guess with 20 pounds of copper and 5 of brass. Most is outside. I just don't have a workshop yet. Next couple of months and I will have one 😃 Then the work and fun will begin along with a TH-cam channel too boot. My fiancé does crafts and I will help make items for that. Till then, my piles are building and I am gaining knowledge. To the future 🍻🍻🍻
That's excellent. Share the learning experiences : )
Nice rings. 👍
How long have you been going by VOG?
Ron... I thought it would be you... if you'd been just a few minutes earlier you'd have beaten Tobho's comment on exactly that point. I was about to pin it to the top in case anyone was wondering.
But thanks for noticing : )
have you considered trying "vapor smoothing"?
A few people have been suggesting it. I'll have to give it a try : )
acetone Vapor smoothing is something you do with ABS. PLA doesn't smooth with acetone vapor.
@@vogman hit it with a bit of spray on furniture wax and give it a light polish, it will at least fill in the grooves a bit
@@vogman Doesn't work at all. Anyone need 5lts of acetone? :o/
Is the base you use available on thingverse?
Hi Luis. Yes my casting tree is on Thingiverse. Just search for VegOilGuy and it should come up : )
How do you dry your plaster molds?
You don't really. They're damp when they go into the burnout oven and from there they get the drying of their lives : )
@@vogman I was wondering about that - two birds with one stone. I like that idea.
This is nordic gold?
I think coins and bars could be made with this method easier also.
What did you use to sand and remove the sprue.
I can't be sure offhand Jamile. I typically use an angle grinder, a Dremel (with cutting disk or sanding drum), small files and ordinary sand paper : )
That still helps thanks alot working on a few projects myself you earned a new sub
That's great to hear. Drop me a line any time if you need a little help : )
Where can i learn how to do this
I'm self taught in honesty, but I've got videos covering the whole of my journey. But if I'm too dull for you, you might find local jewellery making classes : )
The totenkopf with runes is cool, carved with special tools? I’d buy a werewolf or one of these, 3D printer needs directions not a photograph, this seems like based hobby, good for him. Beats having to spend money if made it yourself for fun. Dog tags from Otto Skorzeny or copy of rare limited production. Wouldn’t gas burner be cheaper, than that kiln thing? Like use to burn glass or set fire 🔥 to sugar cane, genuinely don’t know. I’d make one for a item or too, but sure,the could do it. Special wax, soda, wow completely a knob.
The base is it on thingverse?
Yes, just search for VegOilGuy... my stuff comes up : )
@@vogman Thanks for the quick reply. Never done this stuff. Father in lsw has, may use gold nuggets.
The pla cooked out?
Exactly : )
How is mass produced jewelry made like earrings and body piercing jewelry?
A lot of cheaper jewellery is stamped / pressed into existence, the same way coins are made.
@@vogman Thanks I’ll have to look into what that process is like and how they are able to achieve such high precision.
Should not have put pla and wax in one flask as burnout temp differ and rate of melting of wax differs you would probably have had better results to seperate them
That turned out Awesome. You should see some of the rings I have made in silver. I made an awesome .9999 Crucifix for my friend in Canada, Lionel deGrand Pre. Look him up he shows them off all the time on youtube. I also have a few videos(Nothing as impressive as yours) on my youtube Channel. Keep up the good work My Man!
Thanks John. I've only had a quick scan - and 2000 sub is nothing to be sniffed at, well done. I always think getting the first 1000 is the real trial. But if it's something you enjoy doing, then subs don't come into it - they will find you. If YOU are happy in what you do, THEY will be as well. Maybe that's why I haven't got 2 million subs, but I'm happy doing my thing and chatting with folk : )
@@vogman I know this is kinda selfish but I like this kind of content more.
Feels more personal plus you can actually interact with people.
Speaking of which - why do you give everyone a heart?
Not everyone... but nearly everyone, yes. Why? Why not? As you say, this interaction with like-minded people is great. Even criticism is appreciated, as long as it's genuine and not just intended to be hurtful nonsense. I don't know everything, so if someone points out a mistake, I learn. And, to be a bit corny, I do love getting comments, questions and feedback. So hearts.
@@vogman John Sellers is a great fella. Good friend, I've been trading with him for years! :D
Any friend of yours Cap, is someone I have to keep a close eye on ; )
Nah, just kidding. John's always been very supportive with his comments, much like yourself. You're both on my Christmas Card list... if only I owned some Christmas Cards : D
How can we go about getting you stuff to cast.
I'm always looking for ideas and do welcome suggestions. Anyone can contact me privately through my website here -
www.vegoilguy.co.uk/index.php
I cannot guarantee I'll do it. It has to appeal to me. I need to enjoy doing it otherwise it becomes work, and that's not what I want for my videos. So if it's an idea that I like, I may well give it a go. Feel free to send me ideas anytime... but please don't be offended if I say no. I'm limited on time and resources so I have to really want to do what I do : )
Welcome to the jewelry casting addiction.
It's certainly got its attractions : )
Don’t quite understand your furnace situation- you seem to have lots! Why have you stopped using the homemade one?
I guess the answer to that Tim is 'which homemade one?' There's been a couple.
For Lost PLA / Wax I need two heat sources, one to melt / burnout / prepare the plaster flask (for which I use my homemade electric furnace) and one to melt metal (for which I use a tabletop, store bought electric furnace - though I've also got a couple of gas furnaces I use from time to time).
The choice is purely preference... electricity is quiet, clean and indoors. Gas is noisy and outdoors.
But for more on the why, have a look at this video I made on Lost PLA. It should tell you everything you need to know : )
th-cam.com/video/qxj5eUkAFUI/w-d-xo.html
Glad to hear you are still using the homemade electric, it is on my (rather extensive) todo list, so pleased to hear it is still in favour 😊
It's still my favourite furnace : )
Have you seen last week's video? I added a programmable PID to extend the use of that furnace, giving it Burnout capabilities - th-cam.com/video/hGCL1FXKXss/w-d-xo.html
Hey can you make a ring for me?
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