This forgotten Lumix might be the best value yet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2023
- The Lumix GX800 has been in my bag almost every day for months now, and I still love it. I just express my love with spray paint haha
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can you try to do a review on the Sony zv-1
I would love it if Panasonic and/or Olympus produced more of these tiny M43 cameras in different colors. I picked up a GM1 and it’s so much fun to use. My phone camera will never replace this experience. It’s just not as fun to use. I don’t know why.
I totally agree!
I would love it if Panasonic and/or Olympus produced anything small enough.
Always enjoy your content Em, thanks for the video.
Glad someone is still keeping the conversation going about small, daily-use cameras! With a USB-C port that enables decent file transfer with a cable in a theoretical newer model, maybe the microSD card wouldn't be as much of an issue (assuming the space saved is used wisely!)
Your presentation style is very refreshing and informative. Thank you
Love the video! As well as how perfectly you are exposed with that sunlight! I also remember those PM days!
You have instantly become one of my favourite channels. Keep it up ❤
Thank you! ☺️
What a great dedicated video! Some wonderful captures too!
Love the outdoor location and your love of the small cameras. Just picked up the YI M1 micro four thirds camera and that’s currently with me all the time with the lumix 14mm on it. Definitely an idiosyncratic camera but someone has to love it. 😊
Your channel is genuinely incredible. Easily my favourite photography channel on TH-cam
Thanks so much David! ☺️
I agree! My GX850/800 is a pocket rocket with the 14-42mm power zoom lens. This was my pocket carry camera on a trip to the Amazon, Peru and Galapagos. It's a great camera to get close to people without being an intrusive tourist. The 4k video clips are fantastic. It even proved itself capturing frigate birds in flight. With the Laowa 7.5mm wise angle lens, the GX850 creates immersive video of interiors. The camera is relatively rare and no longer made (come on Panasonic!!). I got mine used like new on mpb.😊
Just a side note, the Lumix ZS100 with 1 inch sensor was my pocket travel camera on a recent Hawaii trip. With its 25-250mm zoom, it fits easily in a pocket and covers most photo needs (even some astro!). Photos and 4k video are comparable to my m4/3 cameras unless you're seriously into pixel peeping. The ZS100 and little brother ZS80 may take the place of my GX850 in my travel bag and everyday carry! Maybe the ZS100 or ZS200 might get a future m4nerd review😉👍
Thanks for another lovely video, nicely done! I might add regarding the GM5 EVF argument (as someone who owns the GM1, GM5 and GX880) that the downside with the EVF in the GM5 is that it squashes the LCD screen vertically, so Panasonic decided to put in a 16:9 ratio LCD on the GM5 for that reason. Great for video perhaps, but I doubt anyone would choose it primarily to shoot video nowadays. So when shooting photos this means the 4:3 image is only a part of that already smaller LCD, with bars on the side, making the actual live view very tiny. For photography I very much prefer to so much larger 4:3 LCD image on the GM1, GX800/880 etc.
Interesting!!! I've just picked up a gm5 actually!
Love the orange color
Based partly on your videos, I picked up a gx850 for edc a few weeks ago. Totally agree, it's a good size and weight to drop into a sling bag/purse with a pancake and maybe the very compact and sharp 35-100 3.5-5.6. No evf is hardest with lots of sun, backlit scene and manual focus with peaking. Great menus, esp compared to Olympus. Had a gx85 before - better camera no doubt- but just too heavy for edc. Thank you!
Such a good review and some cracking photos from Amsterdam!
Thanks you guysssss!! ☺️📸
I used to work in a department store and ever since we stocked this camera I just fell in love with the size and simplicity of it.
Cut to 6 or so years later and I found one second hand and remembered my fondness for this system - it's just as lovely to shoot as I remembered and still a more mature looking image compared to a phone. The autofocus is more than adequate and I personally have the 20mm f1.7 lens kept on the front of mine as I prefer the slightly more cinematic look of the 40mm equivalent. If you really want to push the quality, especially in lower light, DXO DeepPrime/XD processing basically eliminates noise at higher ISO values too!
Absolutely recommend this if you are wanting to break away from using your phone on holiday and just want a nice, easy to handle Every Day Carry.
Excellent tips with noise reduction software - it can make such a difference! That 20mm is also one of my faves 😊
Love the mini camera em 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Thanks Sam! 🙏🙌
Another awesome video. No doubt you clearly love what you do. I would like to get a gx850 but just have too many camera bodies lol. I think you have an LX10 or LX100 and have been shopping for one of those but too expensive. I found a contender a G7X Mii Canon used for great price and that fills the void. Keep rocking the camera scene and I'll keep watching.
Hi, it's exactly as you say, even if I have a larger sensor on a Fuji or Sony, I prefer to take out the GX800 and 12-32 in combination with the Olympus 45mm f1.8. It's small, light, focuses well, and the quality from the phone can't be compared. Oh, and it also has 4K and a rotating display. The biggest advantage is that it fits in your pocket)))
I love the GX800. It's such a compact camera especially with the 20mm f.7. I also have the 14-42mm pz. Recently I bought the 14-140mm zoom which I've found to be very sharp and crisp at all focal lengths. When using the built in flash, however, the images have a shadow on the bottom of the pictures between 14mm and 35mm. I'm now tempted to sell this lens and buy the 45-175mm pz instead. Either that, or buy a GX85 and a separate flashgun.
Just bought a used 800 and that lens from MPB, so glad that's your setup!
And half the cost of a Ricoh GR, well maybe 2/3's cost of a good used GR and it's the same size with interchangeable lenses! Yes the sensor is only 16M but that's fine for 'street' work.
I bought myself a GX880 a couple of months ago - my (quick count) 5th M43 body 😲. It's got to be the ultimate travel camera. I always wanted a GM1 but never found one at a sensible price so gave up after a while. It charges over USB too (does the GX800 do that?) so one less thing to take 👍. I don't think my G80 is going to get a look-in this summer 😎.
I have an old GX1 (the one where you press the shutter and everyone turns around and looks at you...CCALACKK! ) love the orange! lol
Any way to change playback histogram to a single ‘brightness’ version, rather than a multiple RGBY?
Wonderful street photography Emily! Now I regret selling my 14mm f/2.5. Hoping to recreate the magic with my GX7 and 12-32.
Kinda weird because I was in Amsterdam in mid-May and my weapon of choice was a GF1 and my beloved 14mm. Any small m43 and the 14mm is great for cities. PS hope you got inside the Rijksmuseum. Beautiful building and art.
Thank you for the excellent review. I just need to know if its a good friend for marking short Podcast videos ?
Thanks again
Great video Emily, I have a GX880 which is essentially the same camera. I love it for a carry everywhere camera. Only downside is Apple Photos doesn't seem to understand the RAW files from it but Lightroom/DXO have no problem. The 12-32 lens it comes with is cracking for a plastic fantastic lens and gives some stabilisation which isn't present in the camera itself. I tend to carry 12-32 and a 20mm f1.7 in a pocket for low light and portraits which slightly more shallow DoF. Replaced my Ricoh GR with this set-up, loved that camera but got fed up with dust on the sensor and the expense of getting it cleaned. Enjoy the Netherlands 🇳🇱
I also came to this camera from a GR (III)! It's a shame Lumix didn't try to capitalise on the popularity of those cameras.
Yep, same two lenses for me too ❤️. I also have the 14mm f2.5 so I'd probably take that along too as part of my travel kit.
Beautiful video! Thanks to your previous and this videos about gx850, I really found that this camera could be my daily camera! However, still hesitating between gx850, gx80, and sony zv-1 regarding the weight, photo & video quality, and stabilization. I saw on eBay their price are more and less close. I'm curious do you or anyone has a suggestion? Thx ;)
Do you know if this is easy to convert to full spectrum?
I love this camera. I really regret selling my 14mm pancake. Hope to one day get a hold of one again, maybe the version 2 next time.
The only problem I had with this camera is that it isn't very comfortable to hold. I have carpal tunnel issues on both my wrists and it just starts to hurt even after a few seconds of holding this camera.
I have sinced slapped a half case on it and a neck strap. Still hurts every now and then but those two things have definitely helped.
If they made another version of this with ibis and a hotshoe, I'd get one straight away 😅
I looked at the GX800 but opted for the PL9 not sure if it was the correct choice but it seems good enough and saves lugging my D7200 kit about.
The PL9 is a great option, especially for video with 4k full-sensor width readout.
I have the Lumix gx880, but I can not seem to learn how to use it :( The displays have so much stuff. I enrolled in a photo course, but the teacher didn´t know how to use it either (professional photographer) :S Do you have any tips? It´s a pity not using it.
I would like to see a shoot out between the GX800 vs the G100. Please and thank you.
What did you use to film the video?
Hey, I have the gx880 and my photos look nothing like yours! Do you teach or recommend any online course? Thanks and congrats. The channel is looking great!
Just wondering what you thought about the old Samsung NX cameras? I fancied a Ricoh GR3ii but at a grand, I couldn't justify it but then I saw an old Samsung NX300 with a 30mm f/2 lens for £210 and I'm loving it.APSc, interchangeable lenses, flipping screen and only slightly bigger than my LX100.
I used to work for Samsung cameras many moons ago! I thought the NX series of cameras was right up my street - so promising. The software was a bit lacking I found, and the lens choices limited. It’s a shame there weren’t more made
I was looking at this when I was shopping for a new, small camera. I went with the GX85 though, because of the EVF and IBIS, among other factors. Yes, I paid more, obviously, but it's a great camera. I may never go back to my full-frame Canon...
Also a great choice! I love the GX85! Such a good camera that I might have to revisit at some point. (I did a “love letter to the gx85” a few years back and that was my “every day carry” camera for ages!)
Love my Lumix GX85
Tour on thirds, exploring nerds. 🤭
I've been considering that 14mm lens for a while now for my GX9.
I'm kind of scared of wider focal lengths. 😅
It's actually really hard to find in the US... and if one pops up from time to time, it will definitely be much pricier... ;)
I have this camera (gf9 here in Asia), have to say I'm pretty impressed. Even though it's all plastic, at least it's high quality plastic and doesn't feel cheap at all. I recently went into a Fuji store, and I'm genuinely shocked at how cheap they feel, almost as if fuji's using recycled plastic bottles lol. The only complaint I have with this gx is the lack of manual video options and focus bracketing, which seems to me very odd and unnecessary omission
Not sure which Fuji cameras you're referring to, the small compact mirrorless? I owned X-T3 for some time and the body quality was amazing, the camera was really beautiful.
After this video, I landed a mint GX880 from UK on ebay thinking it would great in my motorcycle tank bag. Immediately regretted not getting a G100 instead. Oh well, it will work from my bicycle handle bar bag.
I live in NY. I need to take photos spontaneously and need a compact cam for a very, low budget. I need help with purchasing tiny mirrorless cams or point-and-shoot. It's rare to even see camera stores anymore. My phone's camera suddenly stopped working. I need a cam that will also print well in color. I need to go back to something I like to do to get inspired again in the world around me. I feel lackluster without a working cam.
@MicroFourNerds
Hello there my nerdy friend 👋 So I’m in a bit of a conundrum, the same one I was in 5-6 years ago and I thought I had sorted it out by going mirrorless apsc/full frame recently but still find myself in the same spot. Because originally I used DSLRS, then switched over to LUMIX GX80 and didn’t like it enough, same issues as everyone (bad AF, small sensor). But now again, I’d love to find a camera that’s small as possibly can be with a good telephoto lens, because I know quite a few good pancake zoom & primes but if you can recommend, either going for GX80,GM1,GM5 or anything alike i do require a very good but small ish telephoto zoom/super zoom. Otherwise if I can’t find anything I’ll just stick with my M50 or A6100 or A7C.
Thank you! regards!
-Samar
I got one of these (body) and there was no protective body cap but there was an internal barrier in front of the sensor. This barrier disappeared after testing with a lens. Does anyone know how to reactivate it?
(I want to return the camera.)
I've searched online and found nothing
I’ve got the GX80 at the moment and am tempted to swap for the GX880 for the extra portability of being able to carry it in a pocket when out. Has anyone else given this a go?
I’m thinking about the opposite route, no eve for me is a pain.
are the lumix gm5 and the gx800 also available in europe? sometimes they use other product names
I believe the gx800 is the European name, and the gx850 is the US name. And the GF9 is the Asian market name. Just to confuse thing for us buyers! Haha
I believe the GM5 just has one name - the cameras that have shorter names like the GM1 GM5 GH5 etc - the “flagship” ones - tend to be a bit easier to decipher
@@MicroFourNerds thnx, no big 2nd hand market in the NL so could not find them. Need to be a little bit patient
Cant really fault the 800 or 850, both are nice. The GM5 is nicer though, even if the Lvf is, shall I be nice and say in the lower half of mediocre? It is tiny and tunneling, but its there and it works, even if it it somewhere akin to compose with a loo roll core, that as been rolled up. I did try shooting with the phone for a three year periode, but the lack of tactilitiy drowe me nuts. Also dipped my toes into Nikon 1 territory with a J4 for a small one, but it has no hold when compared to the tiny lumixes.
Would you choose a GX800/GX850/GX880 over the G100? The G100 seems like a better all-rounder but only 80g or so more.
I'm sure the G100 is a great camera, but imo the GX850 (et al) is considerably more compact and 80g difference in weight is easily noticeable, especially if carried around in a pocket. Also I find the tilt screen far more practical than the fully-articulating one. G100 might be a better all-rounder, but GX850 wins for daily carry if you ask me!
@@MrJed_s If you remove the "hump" on the top, they're practically the same size and weight (I have both). I was just curious to see what she thinks. I like the GX800, but mine broke and the G100 is a far better for video, night and day really.
@@CameraCombo if they made the G100 as a rangefinder style (aka cut the top off), I would have grabbed one instead of a 2nd hand GX850 for sure. Fortunately for me I don't really record video (but may want to some day).
The G100 is a good camera and definitely has more video features than a lot of these slightly older GX models. However for me I find the G100 to be quite plasticky - I’ve actually cracked the bottom significantly around the tripod screw just with normal use.
The G100 in terms of image quality will be basically the same as most of the GX models, and it does have the EVF over the GX800, so definitely worth a consideration.
I personally prefer the smaller “flatter” form factor of the Gx800, and while it is plastic, the GX800 definitely feels more robust.
@@MicroFourNerds That's interesting that yours broke. My G100 is holding up nicely, but my GX800 bit the bust as it was dropped from about 1m and the screen broke. 😞
I snagged one of these (GF8 here) for $200AUD (equivalent today 105 pounds or $135USD).
I love the little thing! Except now I don’t know whether to take it or my Oly EPL8 when I need to take a tiny camera ☹️
Oh my GF8 takes standard UHS memory card. Weird
I love old cameras
I like my GF7, the GM1's cheaper, less handsome sibling (but it has a tilt screen). I'm sure the GX800 is faster, but the microSD cards are a deal breaker for me. More prone to lose them, one more thing to consider before I leave the house, get a new card reader or fumble with an adapter... Otherwise, lovely cam.
I totally get you on the micro SD front. I always end up dropping mine on the way to the computer!
Hey! Did you use a primer for the painting or did you just spray the color? Thanks :)
I just sprayed the colour! There's a Short on my channel documenting it 😁
@@MicroFourNerdshmm..ok:) Hope there is no problem with the plastic fantastic in the end..
@benfromatlantis it's still going strong. I also did it to another camera (video tuesday) I think I'm getting better at it 😂
@@MicroFourNerdsthe sigma..no. I can't find that camera you improved:)
@benfromatlantis tomorrow sorry! 😁 two tone spray paint hahaha
Looking at the GX800 makes me more astounded with my GM1, basically, they appear to have the same sensors and rear LCD, apart from the tilt, yet the GM1 is 4 years older, but not long in the tooth :) I suppose the issue with the GM1 and 5 is the price and availability.
Absolutely! They’re so similar but the GM1 (probably because of the colour variations and it being slightly smaller) seems to be so much more expensive
@@MicroFourNerds Yep just looked at MBP and they have 1 x GM1 but its £204, a crazy price with no lens.
@@martingrady7654 I think the GM1's cult status has led used prices to be ridiculous. The GM5 is worth the premium more as that is a truly unique camera with the EVF and very compact size. Unless you're a collector the GX800/880 make more sense as a compact MFT body.
GM1/5 have older sensor with AA filter. The GX800/850 has no AA filter making it able to produce slightly sharper images.
@@bitsandblocks7826 Hi, when I got my GM1 in silver and black, I bought it to go with my GX9 silver and black, never thinking it had cult status. I find that I use the GM1 more than the GX9, even though the GX9 is a very good camera. I now see with the high prices especially with the GM5, that they have indeed reached a cult status. I bough mine GM1 in good condition with no lens for £120 about 16 mths ago
Hi what's the difference between the 800 and the 880?
Hi! It’s REALLY similar. The gx880 has a little raised handgrip on the front, and a few more “intelligent” modes like “night selfie” and beautification features - mostly quite dated gimmicks. It’s essentially the same camera if you can find it for a bargain go for it 😁
Looks very chilled there, did you have a nice cold beer after….?
I did! We visited the Heineken brewery tour 😁🍺🍻
cool video. i like ❤
The GM5 is a unicorn camera, they are more expensive used now (corrected for inflation) then when they sold new. Why can't Panasonic take a hint and give us an updated GM6? I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
I know right?! That’s The One. It has almost everything!
It is almost GR3.
is this the GF9 in the international market?
I believe so.
EDIT// the lack of grip on this camera was too much (or too little ;-) for me. You have to pinch hold it, which gets strenuous very quickly. I guess the E-PL cameras are a better fit for me. //EDIT Just ordered one of these for under €200. Been carrying an Oly E-PL2 for the last while - it'll be interesting to see how this cpmpares. (My main camera is a Panasonic GX9, but, even though not very big, i find it too big and heavy to always carry.)
I own the GX800 and the G9. And sadly I have to say that the skincolors out of the G9 are much more pleasing. And the Dynamic Range is worse. So the highligths of the GX800 are often blown out. Im more often reaching to the G9 because I dont trust the GX800 with portraits.
I think that’s probably to be expected with the g9 being the more modern flagship in terms of colours and dynamic range for sure. I reallly hope we get a refreshed G9ii at some point 🤞
You don’t mention the gx85 anymore. What are your thoughts on it in 2023?
If you wanted something a little larger with evf and ibis it’s superb!! It’s a little heavier as well compared to these tiny cameras I’ve been reviewing recently - tho definitely not massive, and built very well!
I sold that camera to invest in a different one - maybe towards my GH6? I lose track - and yet again I regret selling it 🙈
Thank yOu for your response. U actually inspired me to buy one a few years ago that’s pretty much just sitting here and I bought a couple lenses for it so was just wondering if I should keep it or sell it and get a new one but I really don’t want to spend more money on another camera if this one is still good on 2023 and I barely use it.
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Ich habe die KEamera als Immer dabei, mit 12.32 pancake
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After much research.... :) I feel that much better choice is LX100 / LX100II.
I loveeee that camera! In fact it’s been on my alert list on MPB ever since I loaned one last November. I’m waiting for the right bargain to pounce 😂
Why are the really interesting and legendary cameras laid there to die. Lumix must see the secondhand prices of the GM1/5. Give us a Lumix GM7 with magnesium build, an EVF and the newest sensor. Why doesn’t the Pen-F ii come to market, the secondhand prices of those skyrocket beyond their new list price. As much as I liked that camera, I liked the value of it more so sold it.
My next video is a good old rant about the pen f 2 we all want actually haha
I already have too many cameras, and I sold my tiny camera because of how good my phone is, but now I want another tiny camera 🤣
A lot of these small cameras are getting popular again. But the camera makers are not making a lot of new ones now. I think its because of the chip shortage that's said not to be back to normal until 2024. That's what Sony said when people was asking about PS5.
Interesting, I never thought how that might affect things. I think the world is more than ready for some small and capable new cameras!
@@MicroFourNerds Also a lot of the Fuji shoots are now looking at M43 because the small cameras are cheaper on Ebay. Even Fuji and Olympus have cut back on small cameras but there are so many new videos popping on now on TH-cam about small cameras.
Thanks but under $200? Where? These are still $600 in the US. You can't even get a Pen EPL2 for $200
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