I was lucky and grabbed one the Amazon benders on you recommendation after your video. I really appreciate your bringing it to our attention. It's everything you said it was. I also grabbed a couple of used dies off of Ebay for a reasonable price. I haven't finished setting it up, getting ready for winter here, but I am modeling it after JC Custom Metal Fab's on here. Thanks, a lot for you time and effort.
@@jake-hy2zb that’s great. For the price it is definitely hard to beat. I never used it with the mechanical lever but the air over hydraulic has been great. I’ve all ready used the engine stand for a engine. I’m glad I used the engine stand for space savings. Thanks for the update.
Awesome video, I've been looking at some benders and for me just starting out I think this would be perfect! Glad it popped up on my recommended! Thanks for the info!
I modified a Harbor Freight “Pipe kinker” by adding 1/4” plates on each side of the die. It bends BETTER than a JD2! I use it with DOM .120 1-3/4 and regular steel 1-5/8” .134 wall. I can do 90 degree bends without any issues. The plan was to use it until I could save money for a JD2, but honestly, it works so well that I gave up on buying a JD2. A friend has a top of the line JD2 and his face was priceless when he saw the bends that I did with my modified Harbor Freight one lol.
@@devil2jz500 that’s awesome, a few years ago I used a hf one with “almost successful results” it would have worked better if I had the patience to get better with it.
It’s crazy how fast and expensive used benders go for on marketplace in my area. I have been wanting a bender for a very long time. I almost regret not getting the JD 2 but this cheep bender works and I’m trying to put the money in Jeep parts instead.
Awesome video brother. As an average guy, I have to pick and choose what to put my money into. I'm all about buying nice tools when it makes sense, but I'm not a fab shop so buying a 1k+ tube bending setup doesn't make much sense. This is great!
Companies could make a killing down here in NZ or Aus with these benders, they want about 2.5k US without dies which puts it out of the game for most people and it sucks as you have to rely on others which just ups the cost of building even basic things and with added taxes on importing stuff its just crazy. Honestly i don't care were stuff is made as long its quaility and they have good support - even baileigh now makes stuff from china. Thanks for the upload and review
@@kuraikami8490 yea that would be perfect. I welded 1/2” nuts to the bottom of the stand close to each caster. I level it using long 1/2” bolts with jamb nuts.
@@TrailTime. No doubt….Sometimes you buy the best because you need it or want it and other times you get good enough because it’s the best you can do until something changes. Many times it’s turned out just fine for me. I think you mitigated the risk just fine. You can always update the video with the good or bad as you do more stuff with it.
The mounting clamps that hold the hydraulic ram to the bender only accept a 80mm outside diameter hydraulic ram. The only place that sells a 80mm ram is Harbor Freight, the rams that are sold on Amazon are 78mm and will not work with any of the Swag Off-road bender ram clamps. I should have explained it a bit better in the video. Thanks for asking.👍🏼
@@TrailTime. You explained it perfectly what I'm saying is tig weld inside the clamping area of the swag clamp to decrease the size of the opening from 80mm to 78mm best you can and grind it to fit
@@bassinshankles It definitely crossed my mind, I decided to use the 78mm air over hydraulic ram on my engine hoist. I get a lot more use out of the engine hoist and I really enjoy having it air powered now.
If only I didn’t say “Woodward Fab” a thousand times!! I cringe when I watch my videos. In my mind I feel like i said something great but then…..nope! Every time I think I have the music turned down in the edit it always feels to loud!! It happens to me almost every time.
@@TrailTime.if your editing software has a DB reading for individual tracks. Aim for voice to hit -10 on average and music to hit -25 on average or even lower if needed when there’s talking.
My questions are how thick are the bender frames? What is the max angle the dies can bend. Looks like 90* only. My JD2 dies are 180* and the frame is 3/4" thick. Also the degree dial is easy to read so no second wheel needed. Also what is the pin diameter? JD is 7/8" for all but the center which is fatter.
Yes the WFB2 is the swag clamp I got and worked perfectly. If you ever need to do .188 wall thickness I’d strongly consider the www.swagoffroad.com/products/swag-machined-tubing-bender-air-hydraulic-ram-mount?variant=41836911722681
I had my local welding supply/tool store order it for me. I know them very well and I got a great price. Here is a link for a Woodward Fab die on Amazon. Any of the Woodward Fab dies will work with this bender. A few guys have commented here about other brands also working. I did a 2nd video with dimensions. Maybe that will help checking to see if other dies will work. www.amazon.com/Woodward-Fab-HECWFBDT112X5-tubing-bender/dp/B07CZS1XNK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3I848VA1MK6HF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0W57zCe5W-7UuKvoFLKvoP0xheXRuLO_N7-T0Y1CmeGGQn1zAOb8wZWYETx_2Nry5hwojyFfH7eZumTOmgw-bIq6i1E2qUtn3KJy2gFQeqcyjxDlcJ0eGgh-jUawQVExRabg96AOan0Adb1aqxYgj6RTm46Yrhq_hQr4ZeUzWFPrb7vqn3Ly5WLnHo83OWjSy_ju6J_9C2Z-4o6RYGsPzw.8HEzmAWDSUKOmTS5wJNId9Ja3VAXjhj9jUgMQzVPJpM&dib_tag=se&keywords=1.75+woodward+fab+die&qid=1717766275&sprefix=1.75+woodward+fab+die%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-3
I looked at some budget benders. How many of them are rated to bend mild steel tubing with 1.75 od and a minimum wall thickness of .118 per nhra? Not all of them. And that size you better be hitting the gym a lot and have a cheater bar 20 ft long to bend by hand. Even some of the larger table top units with a bottle jack don’t meet the requirement. I get if you are just building bumpers of light bars. But roll cages are about safety, not about being thrifty or cheap when your life may be saved by a good cage.
Definitely use the rulebook of the sanctioning body that you will be participating in. Bending .120 isn’t hard on a mechanical bender of this design. A 4’ leverage bar is more than enough for 1.750 x .120 DOM tubing on a mechanical bender.
@@tjhardesty1720 I would have to look back into it, but I would start by cross referencing the JD squared die to the Woodward fab die. I don’t remember if it’s the old ones or the new JD squared but I think I heard one of them does work.
2” .120 wall would be no problem. I’ve only been bending 1 3/4” DOM. Both .120 and .188 Wall thickness. The bender will handle 2” with the proper die. I use adjustable roller stands to support the tube during setup while confirming the tube is in plane. Once a bend starts there is plenty of force holding it during the bend. After a bend i position the roller stands under the new shape and release the die clamp. The engine stand has no problem holding the weight.
I could have explained it better. The only part that is underrated is the Ram mount. swag off-road has a better one that’s rated for up to .188 wall thickness. The one I have is only good enough for up to .120 wall. Thanks for watching.
@@buggynutzoffroad5866 they also make a nice tube bender. Here are both links. www.jmrmfg.com/collections/apparel/products/raceline-degree-wheel www.jmrmfg.com/products/jmr-raceline-tube-bender
@@TrailTime. I live about 1.5 hrs from JD Square and they allow local pick ups. In your opinion is going the Amazon / Woodward fab rt still worth it if I can get a JD2 without paying outrageous shipping?
@@buggynutzoffroad5866 I’d definitely get the jd2. The shipping is what put me over the top on the decision. The Amazon one works well for me so far but I’d rather support jd2. My $.02
Hello friend, I'm in Brazil. I already have the bending machine and I only need the hydraulic part that you show in the video. What is the price delivered here to my address in Brazil.
@@outdoorgrowin I’d recommend taking a little bit of the black oxide coating off of the internal diameter of your die, since it is obviously a bit too thick
No heat. The .120 wall was easy cold. I definitely had my safety squints and a grin on my face when I was bending the .188 wall. I knew I was maxing it out.
Hey buddy, i just bought the same bender, but im looking to get the JD2 dies. Im seeing mixed reviews on which dies to buy. Some say the model 3 dies fit, some say they dont, and its the same with the model 32 dies. Would you happen to know which ones are the same as the woodward fab dies?
@@mavsfabshop I don’t believe the jd2 dies will fit. The rule that has worked for me is if it works for the Woodward fab it will work with the Amazon bender.
Theirs been a few comments about som le off brand stuff that works but I think their lost somewhere in this comment section or deleted by the guys who posted. I did a second video talking about using the bender, I also went over the exact dimensions of the bender and the die
What model clamp did you order? What part of the clamp isn’t fitting? I put all the measurements in this video th-cam.com/video/zRFfZOhE4og/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1YMi6ne5aywjuS_A
Not sure my first reply went through. I got the JD2 model 32 clamp. The diameter of the thread in bungs is too large for the top/bottom plates of the bender.
The clamp I ordered was the WFB2 for the Woodward Fab bender. Did you weld the clamp up yet? The swag off-road guys are really good to deal with. I’m sure they can swap it out for you.
It’s not high quality. I have this 209 bender and the arm has ALOT of play in it. I had to weld several plates to it so it didn’t slump. Also a company named Grizzly offers dies that work for this bender for a fraction of the cost of Woodward fab or any other die
Interesting, you have my attention. Is it the center pin insert bushing that is worn out? Everything else is 3/4” steel bolted together. I’m not picturing much that could be sloppy other than the bushing to have any play. I’m not using the mechanical arm though. That went to the scrap bin in day one. I went straight to the hydraulic ram. Thanks.
@@TrailTime. That’s exactly what it is. The bushings aren’t an exact fit around the pin nor inside the hole they go in so there is so much slop that the arm hangs at a pretty decent slope as it sways through the bend. I added some plates and drilled the holes to be more exact around the pin, plus added some spacers to the mechanical arm to make it more tight. It’s a lot more tight and level in action than it was. I’m going to be making a lot of compound bends so I need it to be tight.
@@RELAXnRENOVATE this is why I started the video talking about JD2. When a cheep knock off company is selling stuff quality control issues are always a problem. I may have gotten lucky with mine the clearance on the center pin are tight. I don’t know how long it will last (especially bending.188 wall) the Jd2 says their model 32 is good for up to 2” .250 Wall DOM. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@TrailTime. I thought about the effect a hydraulic ram would have on the stability of the swing arm. It seems like having it mounted stationary is what gives a normally sloppy sway arm a little more rigidity. That might be why you didn’t notice it since you discontinued the mechanical arm right away. Anyways…check out the grizzly bender. It’s the same as this 209 bender but with inexpensive die sets. That company offers a 1.5” 180 degree 4.5” radius for under $300.00. The other companies are around $500.00 for that specific die. Seems high quality so far. It’s worth checking out
@@hellapellanyc6465 18g is like 0.0478” wall thickness. Most of the dies manufacturers start their Recommended Wall Thickness Range at 0.058” and go up to .188-.250 or solid bar depending on the tube diameter.
welcome,,,, I analyzed your TH-cam channel and found that you are doing something wrong in uploading your videos and that's why your TH-cam channel does not rank on the top search result.
Trust me. I’m always the last guy to recommend a foreign anything. I was spending so much money on Jeep parts when I bought this bender I had to save some money somewhere. I tried to start this video, giving Jd2 the credit they have earned.
The benders are mass produced plasma cut flat plate.......absolutely no reason that "American" is literally double the price for exactly the same pieces made with the exact same process.........
@@TrailTime. I'm not trying to be "one of those guys" talking out their... Just sayin, when your inching up on an angle it's a lot easier to get it right by hand. Once you go too far.. You're too far is all. Happy Wheelin!!
Had one of these and wasn't very impressed. Lose tolerances and poor machining. Guess you get what you pay for 🤷♂️. Ended up selling it and buying the REV 2 complete bender from Swag Offroad. Couldn't be happier with it. I'll shell out a few more Biden bucks for a product made in the US.
I’m making a video next week titled using the $209 Amazon Roll cage tube bender. It will be the one to watch. This was a introduction to the bender. I’ll answer all the questions I get. Thanks for the feedback
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The Amazon tube bender has been out of stock for a long time now.
This is the type of content we like to see as offroad enthusiasts and builders. Saving coin here and there can go along ways towards nice parts
I was lucky and grabbed one the Amazon benders on you recommendation after your video. I really appreciate your bringing it to our attention. It's everything you said it was. I also grabbed a couple of used dies off of Ebay for a reasonable price. I haven't finished setting it up, getting ready for winter here, but I am modeling it after JC Custom Metal Fab's on here. Thanks, a lot for you time and effort.
@@jake-hy2zb that’s great. For the price it is definitely hard to beat. I never used it with the mechanical lever but the air over hydraulic has been great. I’ve all ready used the engine stand for a engine. I’m glad I used the engine stand for space savings.
Thanks for the update.
Awesome video, I've been looking at some benders and for me just starting out I think this would be perfect! Glad it popped up on my recommended! Thanks for the info!
great video I was looking to try to find a cheaper way to get a bender in my shop and this is what I needed. Thank you
I’m usually the last guy to recommend a foreign product, but if the budget is tight this works!!
I modified a Harbor Freight “Pipe kinker” by adding 1/4” plates on each side of the die. It bends BETTER than a JD2!
I use it with DOM .120 1-3/4 and regular steel 1-5/8” .134 wall.
I can do 90 degree bends without any issues.
The plan was to use it until I could save money for a JD2, but honestly, it works so well that I gave up on buying a JD2. A friend has a top of the line JD2 and his face was priceless when he saw the bends that I did with my modified Harbor Freight one lol.
@@devil2jz500 that’s awesome, a few years ago I used a hf one with “almost successful results” it would have worked better if I had the patience to get better with it.
do you have a vid of it in action or something?
I'd like to see a video of that. I've never heard of anyone doing that.
It’s crazy how fast and expensive used benders go for on marketplace in my area.
I have been wanting a bender for a very long time. I almost regret not getting the JD 2 but this cheep bender works and I’m trying to put the money in Jeep parts instead.
Great video! I was lucky and picked up a JD2 here locally with 3 dies, hydraulic ram, and stand for only $700. But this is a great option.
@@foregonetrails
That’s awesome! Can’t go wrong with JD2 🇺🇸.
Awesome video brother. As an average guy, I have to pick and choose what to put my money into. I'm all about buying nice tools when it makes sense, but I'm not a fab shop so buying a 1k+ tube bending setup doesn't make much sense. This is great!
I feel the same way. This felt like this was the best way to get a semiprofessional style bender on a regular man’s budget.
Companies could make a killing down here in NZ or Aus with these benders, they want about 2.5k US without dies which puts it out of the game for most people and it sucks as you have to rely on others which just ups the cost of building even basic things and with added taxes on importing stuff its just crazy.
Honestly i don't care were stuff is made as long its quaility and they have good support - even baileigh now makes stuff from china.
Thanks for the upload and review
why dont you buy some and sell them down there ?
Put leveling screws with footpads to level the unit and make it stationary while using it. Just weld them by the casters.
@@kuraikami8490 yea that would be perfect.
I welded 1/2” nuts to the bottom of the stand close to each caster. I level it using long 1/2” bolts with jamb nuts.
Nice video! I love the idea of putting tools on engine stands!
Thanks for the breakdown.
👍🏼. it’s definitely not easy to publicly recommend a Chinese knockoff. Wish we all had a extra grand every time we go to buy a new tool!!
@@TrailTime. No doubt….Sometimes you buy the best because you need it or want it and other times you get good enough because it’s the best you can do until something changes. Many times it’s turned out just fine for me. I think you mitigated the risk just fine. You can always update the video with the good or bad as you do more stuff with it.
So Amazon is just under 3 but swag is over 3 with a little tig weld and grinding to fit can make the swag work on cheaper option mentally noted
The mounting clamps that hold the hydraulic ram to the bender only accept a 80mm outside diameter hydraulic ram. The only place that sells a 80mm ram is Harbor Freight, the rams that are sold on Amazon are 78mm and will not work with any of the Swag Off-road bender ram clamps.
I should have explained it a bit better in the video. Thanks for asking.👍🏼
@@TrailTime. You explained it perfectly what I'm saying is tig weld inside the clamping area of the swag clamp to decrease the size of the opening from 80mm to 78mm best you can and grind it to fit
@@bassinshankles
It definitely crossed my mind, I decided to use the 78mm air over hydraulic ram on my engine hoist. I get a lot more use out of the engine hoist and I really enjoy having it air powered now.
Great work! Got to get me this setup for my 1980 short bed power wagon build.
Whoa! Was that a fizgig, or a tribble that I seen roll across the floor. I didnt even see that Shepard for the first 5 mins.
Great info! Thanks for sharing your f-ups so the next guy doesn’t have to. That Jeep looks flat nasty! Subscribed!!
We all f up. It’s better to learn from other people‘s mistakes.
It’s going to be a great year for wheeling the CJ. The snow is melting now!
@@TrailTime. 1000%
What a great video! I subscribed. Can’t wait to see your next videos!
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Awesome review and explanation!
Definitely way more prepared in you video than mine go 👌🏻. Turn your music audio to -3db brother.
If only I didn’t say “Woodward Fab” a thousand times!! I cringe when I watch my videos. In my mind I feel like i said something great but then…..nope!
Every time I think I have the music turned down in the edit it always feels to loud!! It happens to me almost every time.
@@TrailTime. Same man, same
@@TrailTime.if your editing software has a DB reading for individual tracks.
Aim for voice to hit -10 on average and music to hit -25 on average or even lower if needed when there’s talking.
Great video !!! THANK YOU instantly subscribed !!!!!
Engine stand is brilliant...
Excellent info here, thanks!!
ebay free shipping great price. dies also available through Summit
My questions are how thick are the bender frames? What is the max angle the dies can bend. Looks like 90* only. My JD2 dies are 180* and the frame is 3/4" thick. Also the degree dial is easy to read so no second wheel needed. Also what is the pin diameter? JD is 7/8" for all but the center which is fatter.
The bender will work with 180* dies. Three pins are 7/8” and the center pin is 1”. The arms are 5/8”
To confirm the SWAG MACHINED TUBING BENDER AIR/HYDRAULIC RAM MOUNT needs to be for a Woodward Fab WFB2 correct?
Yes the WFB2 is the swag clamp I got and worked perfectly. If you ever need to do .188 wall thickness I’d strongly consider the www.swagoffroad.com/products/swag-machined-tubing-bender-air-hydraulic-ram-mount?variant=41836911722681
@@TrailTime. Can you confirm the dies and part # as well? thanks!
@@johnvansloun7443 I got the 120* 1.75 die. It’s part number WFBDT 1-3/4 x 6
Can you put a link to the die please.
where are Woodward tube benders made?
Hi , could i get a link to get the dice ? Thanks for the video its really helpful!
I had my local welding supply/tool store order it for me. I know them very well and I got a great price.
Here is a link for a Woodward Fab die on Amazon. Any of the Woodward Fab dies will work with this bender. A few guys have commented here about other brands also working. I did a 2nd video with dimensions. Maybe that will help checking to see if other dies will work.
www.amazon.com/Woodward-Fab-HECWFBDT112X5-tubing-bender/dp/B07CZS1XNK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3I848VA1MK6HF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0W57zCe5W-7UuKvoFLKvoP0xheXRuLO_N7-T0Y1CmeGGQn1zAOb8wZWYETx_2Nry5hwojyFfH7eZumTOmgw-bIq6i1E2qUtn3KJy2gFQeqcyjxDlcJ0eGgh-jUawQVExRabg96AOan0Adb1aqxYgj6RTm46Yrhq_hQr4ZeUzWFPrb7vqn3Ly5WLnHo83OWjSy_ju6J_9C2Z-4o6RYGsPzw.8HEzmAWDSUKOmTS5wJNId9Ja3VAXjhj9jUgMQzVPJpM&dib_tag=se&keywords=1.75+woodward+fab+die&qid=1717766275&sprefix=1.75+woodward+fab+die%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-3
Maybe I missed it but where did you get 1 3/4" die for $272? Thanks. Great video, really informative.
the same thing i just thought looks like their charging way more or something .
I looked at some budget benders.
How many of them are rated to bend mild steel tubing with 1.75 od and a minimum wall thickness of .118 per nhra? Not all of them. And that size you better be hitting the gym a lot and have a cheater bar 20 ft long to bend by hand.
Even some of the larger table top units with a bottle jack don’t meet the requirement.
I get if you are just building bumpers of light bars. But roll cages are about safety, not about being thrifty or cheap when your life may be saved by a good cage.
Definitely use the rulebook of the sanctioning body that you will be participating in. Bending .120 isn’t hard on a mechanical bender of this design. A 4’ leverage bar is more than enough for 1.750 x .120 DOM tubing on a mechanical bender.
Great explanation! I’ve got a JD2 model 32 die, will it fit in that bender?
@@tjhardesty1720 I would have to look back into it, but I would start by cross referencing the JD squared die to the Woodward fab die. I don’t remember if it’s the old ones or the new JD squared but I think I heard one of them does work.
and how do ypu hold it from moving? Plus if it wont bend 2" 120 wall. no good.
2” .120 wall would be no problem. I’ve only been bending 1 3/4” DOM. Both .120 and .188 Wall thickness. The bender will handle 2” with the proper die.
I use adjustable roller stands to support the tube during setup while confirming the tube is in plane. Once a bend starts there is plenty of force holding it during the bend. After a bend i position the roller stands under the new shape and release the die clamp. The engine stand has no problem holding the weight.
I could have explained it better. The only part that is underrated is the Ram mount. swag off-road has a better one that’s rated for up to .188 wall thickness. The one I have is only good enough for up to .120 wall.
Thanks for watching.
Where did you purchase the degree wheel? Looking at this on Amazon, it doesn’t seem to come with one at all??
@@buggynutzoffroad5866 they also make a nice tube bender. Here are both links.
www.jmrmfg.com/collections/apparel/products/raceline-degree-wheel
www.jmrmfg.com/products/jmr-raceline-tube-bender
@@TrailTime. I live about 1.5 hrs from JD Square and they allow local pick ups. In your opinion is going the Amazon / Woodward fab rt still worth it if I can get a JD2 without paying outrageous shipping?
@@buggynutzoffroad5866 I’d definitely get the jd2. The shipping is what put me over the top on the decision. The Amazon one works well for me so far but I’d rather support jd2. My $.02
nice explanation
These are all metric sizes but you all want to stick with inches
🇺🇸Murica🇺🇸
Where did you get the release knob on your cherry picker?
www.swagoffroad.com/products/swag-machined-thumb-knob-for-round-hydraulic-bottle-jack-release-valves?_pos=1&_sid=20af7fc6e&_ss=r
Video about it. th-cam.com/video/pyGMs83HVms/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BXcQnPvWK8sF96WY
@@TrailTime. Sweet! Thanks!!!
Hello friend, I'm in Brazil. I already have the bending machine and I only need the hydraulic part that you show in the video. What is the price delivered here to my address in Brazil.
I wouldn’t know how to ship anything internationally. Maybe reach out to Swag Off-road. They can probably get you some parts or information.
Bought the Amazon bender but it did not fit the Woodward fab die. Amazon bender pin is 25mm and the die has a 24.9mm diameter hole.
@@outdoorgrowin 0.00394 inch off….you must be working for Boeing.
@@outdoorgrowin I’d recommend taking a little bit of the black oxide coating off of the internal diameter of your die, since it is obviously a bit too thick
@@outdoorgrowin sounds like you could put a little bit of emery cloth work on the inside of that die.
are ya bending that with a little heat ? or is it really that stout of a bender ?
No heat. The .120 wall was easy cold. I definitely had my safety squints and a grin on my face when I was bending the .188 wall. I knew I was maxing it out.
I wanted the review on how it bends and performs
It’s coming. I’m going to do a great video about it.
Thanks for sharing
Glad you found it helpful somehow.
Hey buddy, i just bought the same bender, but im looking to get the JD2 dies. Im seeing mixed reviews on which dies to buy. Some say the model 3 dies fit, some say they dont, and its the same with the model 32 dies. Would you happen to know which ones are the same as the woodward fab dies?
@@mavsfabshop I don’t believe the jd2 dies will fit. The rule that has worked for me is if it works for the Woodward fab it will work with the Amazon bender.
Theirs been a few comments about som le off brand stuff that works but I think their lost somewhere in this comment section or deleted by the guys who posted.
I did a second video talking about using the bender, I also went over the exact dimensions of the bender and the die
@@TrailTime. gotcha. I was wondering because i had seen people saying different things
@@TrailTime. well, I guess it's time to grab a shovel and start digging lol
So does this tube bender come with a die to bend 1 3/4
No. You have to buy the die you need separately. Their has been a few comments about affordable die options other than the Woodward fab die I got.
Just got everything I need, built a stand etc etc. went to install hydraulic with the machined swag clamp and it doesn’t fit the ECOTRIC bender. F**K
What model clamp did you order? What part of the clamp isn’t fitting? I put all the measurements in this video th-cam.com/video/zRFfZOhE4og/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1YMi6ne5aywjuS_A
Let me know if I can answer any questions
@@TrailTime. JD2 model 32 clamp. The thread in bungs diameter is too large for the top/bottom plates
Not sure my first reply went through. I got the JD2 model 32 clamp. The diameter of the thread in bungs is too large for the top/bottom plates of the bender.
The clamp I ordered was the WFB2 for the Woodward Fab bender. Did you weld the clamp up yet? The swag off-road guys are really good to deal with. I’m sure they can swap it out for you.
It’s not high quality. I have this 209 bender and the arm has ALOT of play in it. I had to weld several plates to it so it didn’t slump.
Also a company named Grizzly offers dies that work for this bender for a fraction of the cost of Woodward fab or any other die
Interesting, you have my attention. Is it the center pin insert bushing that is worn out? Everything else is 3/4” steel bolted together. I’m not picturing much that could be sloppy other than the bushing to have any play. I’m not using the mechanical arm though. That went to the scrap bin in day one. I went straight to the hydraulic ram. Thanks.
@@TrailTime. That’s exactly what it is. The bushings aren’t an exact fit around the pin nor inside the hole they go in so there is so much slop that the arm hangs at a pretty decent slope as it sways through the bend.
I added some plates and drilled the holes to be more exact around the pin, plus added some spacers to the mechanical arm to make it more tight. It’s a lot more tight and level in action than it was. I’m going to be making a lot of compound bends so I need it to be tight.
@@RELAXnRENOVATE this is why I started the video talking about JD2. When a cheep knock off company is selling stuff quality control issues are always a problem. I may have gotten lucky with mine the clearance on the center pin are tight. I don’t know how long it will last (especially bending.188 wall) the Jd2 says their model 32 is good for up to 2” .250 Wall DOM.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@TrailTime. I thought about the effect a hydraulic ram would have on the stability of the swing arm. It seems like having it mounted stationary is what gives a normally sloppy sway arm a little more rigidity.
That might be why you didn’t notice it since you discontinued the mechanical arm right away.
Anyways…check out the grizzly bender. It’s the same as this 209 bender but with inexpensive die sets. That company offers a 1.5” 180 degree 4.5” radius for under $300.00. The other companies are around $500.00 for that specific die. Seems high quality so far. It’s worth checking out
Do you have a link for the Grizzly dies?
Where did you get the (yellow) degree wheel?????
www.jmrmfg.com/collections/tube-benders
I sandwiched it in between the bender and the original degree wheel.
Can you bend exhaust tubing with this?
@@armcchargues8623 not really. Most of the dies have a wall thickness range of 0.095”-0.250”. Thin wall tubes usually wrinkle.
Would it work on 18 gauge 1" stainless tubing?
@@hellapellanyc6465 18g is like 0.0478” wall thickness. Most of the dies manufacturers start their Recommended Wall Thickness Range at 0.058” and go up to .188-.250 or solid bar depending on the tube diameter.
@@TrailTime. Gotcha, so it could kink easy I think is what your pointing at. I am trying to make a bow railing.
nice content
I appreciate it. I really enjoy working on and having fun with Jeeps! Thanks for watching.
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I do this for fun, if ppl find it then good for them, if not… I still head fun!! Thanks for watching though.
bender in no longer available.
@@brentclingman5428 I think the demand went way up. Too bad I wasn’t making any commission on the sales!!
I wish I Could find the dies that cheap. Everywhere I'm looking they are closer to $400
@@SGTCap1980 www.jmrmfg.com/products/jmr-raceline-die here’s a great link to American made dies starting at $135.00
@TrailTime. 1 3/4 6" 120degree is still $340. 240 degree is 475. It was worth checking out though
@@SGTCap1980 dang. I did remember a comment by a guy who commented about a good price for some dies. I’ll see if it’s still here somewhere.
@@TrailTime.please do! Finding a reasonable die is my issue right now too!
@@TrailTime. Do these jmr race line dies work with the cheap Amazon bender?
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I think we must be past caring about US made. Remember, it's your neighbors that have businesses like JD2.
Trust me. I’m always the last guy to recommend a foreign anything. I was spending so much money on Jeep parts when I bought this bender I had to save some money somewhere.
I tried to start this video, giving Jd2 the credit they have earned.
Totally get it. Especially when eggs are like $10 a dozen!
The benders are mass produced plasma cut flat plate.......absolutely no reason that "American" is literally double the price for exactly the same pieces made with the exact same process.........
@@eddieknight9234 the real deal breaker for me was $179 shipping.
@@TrailTime. Free with Prime..
You can make better bends by hand.
I think you’re over estimating me, haha. But I’m interested….
@@TrailTime. I'm not trying to be "one of those guys" talking out their... Just sayin, when your inching up on an angle it's a lot easier to get it right by hand. Once you go too far.. You're too far is all. Happy Wheelin!!
Had one of these and wasn't very impressed. Lose tolerances and poor machining. Guess you get what you pay for 🤷♂️. Ended up selling it and buying the REV 2 complete bender from Swag Offroad. Couldn't be happier with it. I'll shell out a few more Biden bucks for a product made in the US.
Glad the Joe Biden economy is working for you💰. Some people need to save when they can.
@4Low_life I definitely get that man... someday money will be worth something again...
@@donjohnson5424you will most likely be hearing your money is worth nothing.
Would've been nice if you focused more on the bender. Your too far. All wee see is the jeep and you 😒
I’m making a video next week titled using the $209 Amazon Roll cage tube bender.
It will be the one to watch. This was a introduction to the bender. I’ll answer all the questions I get. Thanks for the feedback