The majority of us know what you guys at digital trends and you, Caleb, are all about. I am grateful for everything I’ve learned here and other channels. No need for having to explain yourselves for adding a membership but makes complete sense. Keep up the great work!
Caleb, I just wanted to say that you've helped this--ahem--60(ish) year old lady learn so much! I really like to research the things I'm buying, and try to learn as much as I can about how technology works and how to do things myself. I really appreciate you and all that you do, and I look forward to these "You Asked" videos every Sunday!
Thanks for continuing to cover physical media topics. People have no clue what they are missing out on not watching 4k UHD Discs. Its unfortunate that the big corporations swindled their way to making people feel that the convenience of streaming is superior to getting top quality. Then they give you options that benefit them as far as choices and the general public just accepts this. Then every year they make them pay for a movie like Home Alone. Smh
For the 4k bluray player example- A lot of players stuggle with skipping on 100GB discs. It's a known issue with many players. Id stick with Panasonic (UB820 specifically), out of the readily available players, as there are a lot fewer complaints.
"Mr Hibbs," I don't get very often 😊 thanks for looking at my question! I'll definitely try the soundbar on a friends TV, with it being intermittent might be hard to replicate. When I said in eARC I can loose sound, it literally disappears, no audio at all. When I said HDMI, I probably should have said just basic ARC mode, in this mode no issues at all but no Atmos. I'll try your suggestions and report back. Thank you again for taking the time to answer my question! Love the show.
Caleb, just remember that “The noise of the market doesn’t stop the farmer from selling his produce," and "The croaking of the frogs don't stop the cows from taking water at a well."
The purpose of HDR is not to be super bright. The purpose of HDR is to be super bright on the occasion that you need it to be. But it is true that a lot of movies still underutilize the format, presumably because as you said they want to be consistent with other releases and the colorists/directors don't feel that they need a large range of brightness to properly present the film. In fact, I think Roger Deakins himself said he doesn't like grading for HDR specifically because of how bright it gets.
Why do the creators max out their content at 200 nits? Oppenheimer did win Best picture, and it deserved it. But why hinder your content. Or make 2 versions, it’s that good of a film that deserves it.
If there is a B7 review it should address that anyone who ran the Sept 16th firmware update now has many of their pictures settings rendered useless. Sony has since removed the update from their website.
Thank you for all the WORK you and your team do. I have found that ALL helps me make value choices. I am planning on purchasing C4 55 do to your review of the same. Thank you. Keep up the great work you do. 😊
I've had brand new 4K discs (still shrink wrapped) have grease smears on their silvered surface. So new disc doesn't mean anything -- still possible to have to clean them
Caleb, you and your team are awesome. Some people out there will always complain about things that are completely optional even when they don't lose anything.
Sony Blu Ray players are very well known to skip disks, especially the 100 gig disks. When I had one I needed to update the software regularly and that reduced it a lot but didn't solve the problem entirely. Panasonic has a better player that's never skipped but was pretty expensive in comparison.
@@Will_Parker Yeah, you probably should have went with the X800M2, but in both Panasonic and Sony forums, people have experienced problems with both players, so I guess it’s the luck of the draw…
That was me 😊 done and done! Made sure they were certified high speed cables and didn't go too cheap but not silly expensive either. I'll keep up the detective work like Caleb said
Honestly anyone not thinking about backing up all their 4k physical media to the latest Ziddo 8k boxes is nuts. These disc's will rot, and the players will die.
There are a few 4ks out there. Criterion for example. That don't have hdr. I don't freak out honestly. Umbrellas super Mario bros (1993 film) looks better in 4k even without hdr compared to the blu ray. I think it should be creator decided when possible of how its implemented. I do think companies like arrow and uk companies like 88 films and eureka! Do a great job. Vinegar syndrome also does a great job and they only work with hdr10. I hear some studios can do some freakish hdr jobs on movies. So it is a case by case. Something like john wick 4 is impressive in hdr probably there is always something going on with lighting and what not inneach scene.
Amazon has their October Prime sales coming in just over a week, and Black Friday/Cyber Monday are creeping up fast. When do you anticipate posting a list of 2024 recommendations?
The sound drop out is a known Samsung issue. Happens to me with a Samsung sound bar. I have to go into the sound settings and put it on tv speakers to get sound again. Then I can put it back into earc mode. Annoying as heck
Lemme input some tips here with the first 2 problems: * Disk skipping: i learnt that some blu-ray disks come in with some kind of lubricant/manufacturing byproduct on the cases that leech into the disks that causes the skipping. It's the oily substance you can see on both the case and the underside of the disks. Cleaning both with a dry microfiber towel might help. * Audio dropouts: i didn't know this was a multiple generation/model problem because i got a Samsung Q90R home and have the same problem that i've solved for myself. The TV tries to handle or do something with the high bitrate audio tracks (DTS-HD MA/DTS:X and Atmos/TrueHD) that and inserts random sub-one-second dropout. That's why you solve it partially when you change to a audio mode where your home theatre or soundbad doesn't play those audio formats. The solution is easy: don't pass your audio thru the TV to avoid the dropout. Just let your soundbar or home theatre handle it. Connect the Bluray player to your soundbad then the soundbar to the eARC port. If you have a Xbox Series X or PS5 that uses Dolby Atmos while playing, you'll encounter the same problem and you can solve it in the same way: connect your console to the soundbar and the soundbar to the eARC port on your TV. ------------------------ I hope this helps some of you with these problems.
I remember reading a white paper early on that stated 100nit SDR content could be mapped to 200nit HDR with no loss in quality. Considering I calibrated my LG CX's ISF Dark to a perfect Rec709 reference response with a colorimeter, I can easily say watching SDR Bluray is just as enjoyable as UHD Bluray. When it comes to actual films, I think you're right about preserving the look of the film... as long as the expanded dynamic range matches the dynamic range of the film stock or digital cinema camera, that's going to be enough. The thing I've been wondering myself recently is how often film color would naturally exist outside of the Rec709 colorspace and can DCI-P3 or Rec2020 most efficiently allow for the full color response without clamping. My main gripe is that currently, we're seeing 144Hz panels get into consumer televisions and that a perfect opportunity to accurately simulate a triple strobe film projector and eliminate telecine conversions forever. Display each frame of 24p 3x with 3 black frames in between, and you get 24x6=144 just like a real film projector. I'm more interested in high brightness panels being able to maintain the correct APL with a 50% BFI ratio like I described than reach for the stars with blinding specular highlights. I was disappointed that LG wasn't touting such a feature in the G4, it should have been priority one! Currently, the only way to even experiment with this would be a SDR Bluray fed into a RetroTink4K that could generate the black frames and triple buffered image and then send the resulting 144Hz signal to the LG amd then calibrate ISF Bright to 100nits with the BFI baked in. I'm hoping someone can get through to LG at the right level and get them to understand that a feature like that is ideal.
For the hdmi problem. Samsung firmware update had a known issue with constant dropouts and then after they fixed that, they changed the hdmi E-arc setting to not pass thru DD/DD+ when the hdmi are was set to auto. Maybe try setting earc to OFF and audio to pass thru or auto. 🎉 Second. For anyone making comments about your monetary goals with this channel, direct them to your goldenear towers review!! That review alone should give people a better idea of your motivations! Keep up the great work!! 🎉 Ps. Can’t wait to see your 110UX review!! 🎉
Another way to look at HDR peaks: compare it to LFE in a soundtrack. You want the deep crazy thump held for when it's needed for a big impact. If everything is always thumping it's not really impactful anymore.
For the randomly skipping uhd discs. When i encountered those, i dir the following. Carefully whiping them with water and drying with a fine cloth. thus removing chemical residue on the discs. That made that problem go away.
Thanks for another great episode of You Asked! I enjoyed the troubleshooting tips segment and think reviewing the principle of narrowing down the problem was helpful. More of that may be good. I enjoyed hearing about the colorist’s take on the HDR topic and hope to hear more about it. I am sorry that you had to do a segment reminding your audience to be kind or at least civil in the comments. The attacks I sometimes read can bring things down for all of us. It’s possible to have differing opinions without the negativity.
I was a PC Tech over the phone for 7+ years. I used the divide and conquer method. This system works for any kind of problem. Like Caleb said, it saves a ton of time.
For the 4k Blu-ray player are they cheap players? Cheap players tend to skip when the disc switches layers the cheapest one that doesn’t do that it’s the ub820 that I know
Caleb, is their any way you can compare 5 or 6 of the years best TVs so we can see how the older models compare against the newer models. Am pretty sure we’re not gonna see that much of a difference.
@@Pocketkid2 will do, thanks! I didn’t get a 4k tv until about a year or two ago. And I’ve read that a lot of streaming services compress their 4k content to where it’s basically regular blu-ray 1080p quality (or even worse). Any recommendations on the best looking 4k blu-rays? I’m open to whatever. I’m curious to know what are reference (picture) quality movies these days.
@@Pocketkid2it's not worth every penny. It's greatly overpriced which is why it's recommended to buy on sale. The difference isn't great enough to justify the price differential.
@@DrakonR Overpriced? Do you know how many 4K movies you can get for $10-20 that literally contain three versions of the film? Stop spreading misinformation
Humble yourself. That's funny. Anyways, don't listen to the haters. Just know that when you get haters, you're doing your job very well.. Caleb, we as real supporters are here to do exactly that support you. Okay, moving on the other reason why and with me being a physical media collector. I will share this with you. Most studios and directors don't take full advantage of 4K Blu-ray discs, because we as reviewers myself included. Hate it when a scene gets blown out because it just takes away from the actual experience. There has to be a humble balance for a picture in the movie to look the way the Creator intended it to look and I for one am happy that they do not take full advantage of it, here's why, because I can't stand when Netflix does their series, movies, etc blowing out a particular scene for WOW people while I myself can't even make out any details.. That right there as a reviewer, will lose points for doing that. And I might just not give it a good review picture wise. .keep pushing forward guys!
The dolby vision pink problem on the sony x700. Yes I know it's probably one of the worst players hence relatively cheap. Is the x800m an improvement. And I know about the 500 dollar panasonic that auto detects dolby vision however I worry about one physical media youtuber having to take apart a player to get discs out.
On the star trek blu ray pausing or skipping. I have every star trek movie on blu ray. Three of the disks had skipping problems on my PANASONIC UB390 4K blu ray player. I upgraded to a Panasonic UB820 two years ago and it plays all of the movies flawlessly.
Good on ya Caleb, always a great source of info and entertainment. And to the hater/troll who doesn’t like my signature pride flag emoji celebrating my family members who are the victims of constant hate? This one’s for you. 👍🤪🏳️🌈🌈🏳️🌈🌈🏳️🌈🌈🏳️🌈🌈. Love is love. ❤
"I have really good HDMI cables." Sorry but swap them out. Get CERTIFIED HDMI 2.1 cables. I've seen weird image issues and drop outs cause by having a "great" HDMI cable that someone owned for years and was HDMI 1.4 only and can't handle the data throughout needed for 4k properly with advanced audio etc.
I wholly support the question about HDR on 4K discs. I too have been underwhelmed by the HDR prestentation on many discs. The resolution was higher and the colors gamut larger, yes, but the dynamic range often did not seem to differ that much from regular SDR 1080p Bluray. Now, I have an older OLED, a LG E6 from 2016 that was never the brightest screen to begin with, but recently I ran a test where I switched of the HDR coming from my device, feeding the tv 2160p SDR instead. I saw no truly noticable difference. The thing is however, I _do_ clearly see the difference on Dolby Vision titles streaming on Netflix or Disney+. So I guess it really is a case of UHD Bluray discs underutilizing the format. We finally have something that can range up to a 1000 nits at least and now we're not using it. It's the opposite of the loudness wars on CD's where the far larger dynamic range CD's have compared to vinyl wasnt utilized either by having everything close to 0dBFS. Or is this just another case were film distributors want us to double dip AGAIN by releasing 'remastered HDR' or whatever they'll call it that _does_ use up to a 1000 nits. then 4000 nits, then 10,000 nits?
Cables are so cheap.....and cheaply made. Buy multiple if the TV or components are moving (on a mount) they fail. Often. Been through 10+ cables in my 15 years on HDMI. The longer the cable and the more it moves....the quicker the failure. Starts with pixilation then sound, then decoding errors.
To the guy with the disc freezing issues - I think it's probably an HDMI "handshake" issue with your TV. I have found occasionally blu-ray discs will have intermittent audio dropouts, and for awhile I blamed the discs,, or my blu-ray player, or my pre/pro, before it dawned on me that it felt like an HDMI handshake symptom. So I paused the disc, turned my TV off waited 10 seconds, then back on again, and the problem was gone. My HDMI cables are up to date, and in fact my TV is only a few years old, so that was the only possible culprit. Now when it happens I go straight to the TV. Hope that helps.
Hearing Caleb describe call center tech support, is a bit of a flashback. Some of the longest calls I had handling support on behalf of Xbox, getting Windows Media Center to connect to the 360 from a PC. Granted, I was on the team that made most of the knowledge base articles that addressed the varying degrees of issues that could and would happen. When I started at the call center, we had 2 Media Center articles, 2. Both amounted to, keep trying, if it doesn't work after 40 minutes, send to tier 2, lol.
Caleb. I've been a sub for years. I'm sorry that you felt like you needed to make this video about trolls, but I get it. Keep up the good work man, and I'll be here for years moving forward. Thank you!
100 nits is ok in a light controlled room. But we don’t watch all of our content in light control rooms. Most folks watch most of their content in multiple purpose rooms that are not light controlled at all, can you get away with 100 nits sure, your eyes are adjusted but why? Your point makes sense with 1,000 nits as most folks TVs can’t do 1,000 nits. But every TV can do 200+ nits. I think your argument makes very good sense especially for those top creators like Christopher Nolan and Joseph Kosinski.
Sonos sound bars have an issue where the volume drops to zero. I’ve generally seen that happen after power failures or firmware updates. I have to up the volume again to address it temporarily, but if I turn the TV off and back on again, the volume is back at zero. Power cycling again will often fix it. There is also a kluge that worked with the old Sonos app where you change a bunch of audio and video configurations and then set them back. When it happened again after the new Sonos app, I found the kluge no longer worked, so I had to power cycle to fix it.
The Samsung audio drop out is definitely a TV issue. Ive had many soundbars and amps drop out using a Samsung TV. Its a handshake issue that I could never rectify. Once i moved to Sony, the issue disappeared.
With regards to the disc skipping, it might be the off gassing that happens. Look at the inside of the disc case. If it's cloudy looking, you need to wipe the case & the disc with microfiber cloths. Use separate cloth for the discs. I d recommend doing this every time you get a new bluray before playing them.
Only been aware of this channel for 3 or 4 months. Love what you do, it feeds my inner home theater and music listening nerd. Kind of surprised this is the first time hearing about the inevitable losers who love to hate on anyone they think has it better than they do. Water off a ducks back Caleb. Be the duck.
Great video as always Caleb. F the noise Cable. Opinions are like $h*ts everyone has them. Keep doing what your doing its a choice people can choose if they wanna become members.
As the late Jerry Pournell once said (I paraphrase) if there is a problem between a computer and another device, first ting to do is switch cables. The cheapest possible fix and it is not uncommon to see that that fixes the issue.
For the Blu-ray player, if it isn’t the player or the TV or the sound bar that are the problem, maybe it might be the power. if the power isn’t clean or if it is a bit spotty, maybe that is causing the disc to stop spinning or freezing. For my house there is one outlet that is always spotty and whenever I plug-in electronics into that outlet they don’t work that well, but they work fine in other outlets. Just thought it might help.
But with the memberships, there are some channels that have millions of subs, that offer memberships, and you get nothing in return. Some people are also tired all all these subscriptions.
No one has ever done a video comparing HDR with SDR. Manufacturers originally did but they turned the brightness down to 10 nits to make HDR look great 🙂 I've asked and we'll never get it. Is HDR better than SDR - well without a single comparison, who's to say it's better? The issue with HDR is that they look at the bright scenes but they never look at the whole movie and dark scenes which is the entire movie. It's like that myth of D65 calibration - once we all saw it, we thought our TVs were dead. Wait that's calibrated, did you mean deceased?
D65 myth? If you don’t like the look of displays post-calibration to broadcast/home video standards - that’s completely understandable, but to call it a myth is just ignorant.
@@j.rfrazier1855There's definitely a myth that D65 is superior just like HDR. These are essentially filters (filters with meta tags for HDR) that until we can A/B them, we honestly don't know what's better. A lot of us are now seeing calibrated images through professional modes and Apple TV and seeing them even online we're scratching our heads thinking "why would I do that to my TV?" It's akin to playing music restricting frequencies to the 100hz-5000hz range on my Audio system to meet some Hz100 protocol and saying that sounds better. In HDR's case, it' going to be SACD (super resolution with muted midrange and very high bass and treble highlights). Why do that? Midrange is where everything resides and the sound will be completely unbalanced if we accentuate treble and bass over midrange and that's what I see in HDR images. The vocals (which is the actors in a movie) lose their focus and clarity as other parts of the image become too dim or bright. But it's not easy to set up an A/B of HDR.
@@techsamurai11 D65 is not about “superior” or subjectively looking the best. It’s matching the white point/greyscale used for mastering video content. It’s about attempting to see the content as closely as possible to a reference monitor, within the limit of your display’s capabilities. Nothing more, nothing less. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. If the whole video/broadcast industry is using the D65 white point for grading/mastering then that will get you closest to what they see in the color bays. But if you don’t like the look of D65 grey/white, the use Cool or whatever suits your eye. There’s no conspiracy around it. I will agree with you that HDR grading can be hit or miss. For example, I’d rather watch my copy of the Heat 1080p BD over the 4K disc.
So it's better to watch Maverick, Oppenheimer, and Inside Out 2 in SDR. Does anyone know how long HDR has been around for? I guess it applies to all movies. Has anyone watched a movie that was superior in HDR than SDR?
The majority of us know what you guys at digital trends and you, Caleb, are all about. I am grateful for everything I’ve learned here and other channels. No need for having to explain yourselves for adding a membership but makes complete sense. Keep up the great work!
Caleb, I just wanted to say that you've helped this--ahem--60(ish) year old lady learn so much! I really like to research the things I'm buying, and try to learn as much as I can about how technology works and how to do things myself. I really appreciate you and all that you do, and I look forward to these "You Asked" videos every Sunday!
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Thanks for continuing to cover physical media topics. People have no clue what they are missing out on not watching 4k UHD Discs. Its unfortunate that the big corporations swindled their way to making people feel that the convenience of streaming is superior to getting top quality. Then they give you options that benefit them as far as choices and the general public just accepts this. Then every year they make them pay for a movie like Home Alone. Smh
For the 4k bluray player example- A lot of players stuggle with skipping on 100GB discs. It's a known issue with many players. Id stick with Panasonic (UB820 specifically), out of the readily available players, as there are a lot fewer complaints.
Unfortunately that Panasonic one is a bit pricey compared to the rest
@@JeskidoYTThe PS5 console is also good at handling 100 GB discs. The only downside is that it does not support Dolby Vision.
You rock bro! The whole team is doing a great job.
"Mr Hibbs," I don't get very often 😊 thanks for looking at my question! I'll definitely try the soundbar on a friends TV, with it being intermittent might be hard to replicate.
When I said in eARC I can loose sound, it literally disappears, no audio at all.
When I said HDMI, I probably should have said just basic ARC mode, in this mode no issues at all but no Atmos. I'll try your suggestions and report back. Thank you again for taking the time to answer my question! Love the show.
6:41 I thought that I was experiencing sound drop off problems too! 😂😂😂
Did you mention cables first as a problem? I would start there before moving equipment around.
Yes please, a dedicated video on in-depth AV trouble diagnosis. You provide so much to your listening audience.
Caleb, just remember that “The noise of the market doesn’t stop the farmer from selling his produce," and "The croaking of the frogs don't stop the cows from taking water at a well."
The purpose of HDR is not to be super bright. The purpose of HDR is to be super bright on the occasion that you need it to be. But it is true that a lot of movies still underutilize the format, presumably because as you said they want to be consistent with other releases and the colorists/directors don't feel that they need a large range of brightness to properly present the film. In fact, I think Roger Deakins himself said he doesn't like grading for HDR specifically because of how bright it gets.
This whole narrative originated with OLED owners and it's embarrassingly lacking nuance.
@@DrakonR Please elaborate your baseless claims
They don't even have to do HDR. Just don't make some scenes so dark.
@@Pocketkid2 I really don't need to, there's definitions for a reason.
The purpose is for darker blacks as well. More nuanced shadow detail. That's more important to me than super bright scenes
Why do the creators max out their content at 200 nits? Oppenheimer did win Best picture, and it deserved it. But why hinder your content. Or make 2 versions, it’s that good of a film that deserves it.
Yep high end TVs are not theatre projectors. Should be mastered differently
Sony B7 review please.
Can you also recommend TCL European models and prices. Very different fr US models.
Thank you
If there is a B7 review it should address that anyone who ran the Sept 16th firmware update now has many of their pictures settings rendered useless. Sony has since removed the update from their website.
Discs have a residue very often and should be cleaned before first use! YES on troubleshooting clinic vids Thanks Caleb!
Thank you for all the WORK you and your team do. I have found that ALL helps me make value choices. I am planning on purchasing C4 55 do to your review of the same. Thank you. Keep up the great work you do. 😊
I've had brand new 4K discs (still shrink wrapped) have grease smears on their silvered surface. So new disc doesn't mean anything -- still possible to have to clean them
Buy once cry once. BluRay guy should have grabbed a Panasonic UB820
to be fair, its not unreasonable to expect ANY 4k player to playback a movie without skipping or freezing, regardless of price.
Caleb, you and your team are awesome. Some people out there will always complain about things that are completely optional even when they don't lose anything.
Sony Blu Ray players are very well known to skip disks, especially the 100 gig disks. When I had one I needed to update the software regularly and that reduced it a lot but didn't solve the problem entirely. Panasonic has a better player that's never skipped but was pretty expensive in comparison.
I own both the Sony X800M2, and the Panasonic UB820, 3 years, 0 problems with either...
@@bigcdub I upgraded to the 820 because the 2 800s that I had previously owned had so many skipping issues
@@Will_Parker Yeah, you probably should have went with the X800M2, but in both Panasonic and Sony forums, people have experienced problems with both players, so I guess it’s the luck of the draw…
@@bigcdubI'll look into getting one of those.
If no issues with x800m2 I can handle manually switching to dolby vision without the whole screen going pink like the x700
No matter what the trolls say, we normal users learned a lot from your content, and educated ourselves.
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I am ready for an in depth analysis in diagnosing tv problems!
Welcome a video devoted to AV troubleshooting.
For the guy with the soundbar issue it could also just be the HDMI cable. I say replace it with a higher quality HDMI cable
That was me 😊 done and done! Made sure they were certified high speed cables and didn't go too cheap but not silly expensive either. I'll keep up the detective work like Caleb said
LOL a disc that skips. Could be a BD100. All these players optics have issues.
Honestly anyone not thinking about backing up all their 4k physical media to the latest Ziddo 8k boxes is nuts. These disc's will rot, and the players will die.
Oppenheimer was shot on film. It was even edited on film. Film doesn’t have that giant dynamic range after all is said and done.
There are a few 4ks out there. Criterion for example. That don't have hdr. I don't freak out honestly. Umbrellas super Mario bros (1993 film) looks better in 4k even without hdr compared to the blu ray. I think it should be creator decided when possible of how its implemented. I do think companies like arrow and uk companies like 88 films and eureka! Do a great job. Vinegar syndrome also does a great job and they only work with hdr10. I hear some studios can do some freakish hdr jobs on movies. So it is a case by case. Something like john wick 4 is impressive in hdr probably there is always something going on with lighting and what not inneach scene.
6:40 is that an audio troubleshooting joke/easter egg? i had to play it back to make sure it wasn't my system, lol
I noticed that too! Maybe just a glitch in the editing?
Amazon has their October Prime sales coming in just over a week, and Black Friday/Cyber Monday are creeping up fast. When do you anticipate posting a list of 2024 recommendations?
The sound drop out is a known Samsung issue. Happens to me with a Samsung sound bar. I have to go into the sound settings and put it on tv speakers to get sound again. Then I can put it back into earc mode. Annoying as heck
What TV do you have? So frustrating
Lemme input some tips here with the first 2 problems:
* Disk skipping: i learnt that some blu-ray disks come in with some kind of lubricant/manufacturing byproduct on the cases that leech into the disks that causes the skipping. It's the oily substance you can see on both the case and the underside of the disks. Cleaning both with a dry microfiber towel might help.
* Audio dropouts: i didn't know this was a multiple generation/model problem because i got a Samsung Q90R home and have the same problem that i've solved for myself. The TV tries to handle or do something with the high bitrate audio tracks (DTS-HD MA/DTS:X and Atmos/TrueHD) that and inserts random sub-one-second dropout. That's why you solve it partially when you change to a audio mode where your home theatre or soundbad doesn't play those audio formats.
The solution is easy: don't pass your audio thru the TV to avoid the dropout. Just let your soundbar or home theatre handle it. Connect the Bluray player to your soundbad then the soundbar to the eARC port. If you have a Xbox Series X or PS5 that uses Dolby Atmos while playing, you'll encounter the same problem and you can solve it in the same way: connect your console to the soundbar and the soundbar to the eARC port on your TV.
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I hope this helps some of you with these problems.
I remember reading a white paper early on that stated 100nit SDR content could be mapped to 200nit HDR with no loss in quality.
Considering I calibrated my LG CX's ISF Dark to a perfect Rec709 reference response with a colorimeter, I can easily say watching SDR Bluray is just as enjoyable as UHD Bluray.
When it comes to actual films, I think you're right about preserving the look of the film... as long as the expanded dynamic range matches the dynamic range of the film stock or digital cinema camera, that's going to be enough.
The thing I've been wondering myself recently is how often film color would naturally exist outside of the Rec709 colorspace and can DCI-P3 or Rec2020 most efficiently allow for the full color response without clamping.
My main gripe is that currently, we're seeing 144Hz panels get into consumer televisions and that a perfect opportunity to accurately simulate a triple strobe film projector and eliminate telecine conversions forever. Display each frame of 24p 3x with 3 black frames in between, and you get 24x6=144 just like a real film projector. I'm more interested in high brightness panels being able to maintain the correct APL with a 50% BFI ratio like I described than reach for the stars with blinding specular highlights.
I was disappointed that LG wasn't touting such a feature in the G4, it should have been priority one!
Currently, the only way to even experiment with this would be a SDR Bluray fed into a RetroTink4K that could generate the black frames and triple buffered image and then send the resulting 144Hz signal to the LG amd then calibrate ISF Bright to 100nits with the BFI baked in.
I'm hoping someone can get through to LG at the right level and get them to understand that a feature like that is ideal.
For the hdmi problem. Samsung firmware update had a known issue with constant dropouts and then after they fixed that, they changed the hdmi E-arc setting to not pass thru DD/DD+ when the hdmi are was set to auto. Maybe try setting earc to OFF and audio to pass thru or auto. 🎉
Second. For anyone making comments about your monetary goals with this channel, direct them to your goldenear towers review!! That review alone should give people a better idea of your motivations! Keep up the great work!! 🎉
Ps. Can’t wait to see your 110UX review!! 🎉
Another way to look at HDR peaks: compare it to LFE in a soundtrack. You want the deep crazy thump held for when it's needed for a big impact. If everything is always thumping it's not really impactful anymore.
This channel does not get enough views to make “millions”. Look at the views this channel gets, it’s not very much. Great channel though.❤
For the randomly skipping uhd discs. When i encountered those, i dir the following. Carefully whiping them with water and drying with a fine cloth. thus removing chemical residue on the discs. That made that problem go away.
Thanks for another great episode of You Asked! I enjoyed the troubleshooting tips segment and think reviewing the principle of narrowing down the problem was helpful. More of that may be good. I enjoyed hearing about the colorist’s take on the HDR topic and hope to hear more about it. I am sorry that you had to do a segment reminding your audience to be kind or at least civil in the comments. The attacks I sometimes read can bring things down for all of us. It’s possible to have differing opinions without the negativity.
I was a PC Tech over the phone for 7+ years. I used the divide and conquer method. This system works for any kind of problem. Like Caleb said, it saves a ton of time.
For the 4k Blu-ray player are they cheap players? Cheap players tend to skip when the disc switches layers the cheapest one that doesn’t do that it’s the ub820 that I know
Caleb, is their any way you can compare 5 or 6 of the years best TVs so we can see how the older models compare against the newer models. Am pretty sure we’re not gonna see that much of a difference.
Yes, a dedicated video on solving AV troubleshooting
thx for the video any 8k Blurays ?
HDR has been takwn over vy gaming.
Thats just the aweful truth...
More like HDR has been ignored and underutilized by film makers.
Oh wow.. I’m early for once! Been a while since I’ve bought a blu-ray. Haven’t even tried 4K UHD’s since streaming got to where it’s at these days
Try 4K Bluray. It's worth every penny and so much better than streaming...
@@Pocketkid2 will do, thanks! I didn’t get a 4k tv until about a year or two ago. And I’ve read that a lot of streaming services compress their 4k content to where it’s basically regular blu-ray 1080p quality (or even worse).
Any recommendations on the best looking 4k blu-rays? I’m open to whatever. I’m curious to know what are reference (picture) quality movies these days.
@@Pocketkid2it's not worth every penny. It's greatly overpriced which is why it's recommended to buy on sale. The difference isn't great enough to justify the price differential.
@@DrakonR Overpriced? Do you know how many 4K movies you can get for $10-20 that literally contain three versions of the film? Stop spreading misinformation
@@Pocketkid2 you're using the exception to the rule. Most are in fact much more expensive than Blu ray. Reality is tough eh?
It can be an issue on the disc itself.
I’d bet “HDMI MODE” means just a std HDMI port.
I meant to say ARC 🤦🏻♂️
Fully Underutilizing ???
Awesome work Caleb
Humble yourself. That's funny. Anyways, don't listen to the haters. Just know that when you get haters, you're doing your job very well.. Caleb, we as real supporters are here to do exactly that support you. Okay, moving on the other reason why and with me being a physical media collector. I will share this with you. Most studios and directors don't take full advantage of 4K Blu-ray discs, because we as reviewers myself included. Hate it when a scene gets blown out because it just takes away from the actual experience. There has to be a humble balance for a picture in the movie to look the way the Creator intended it to look and I for one am happy that they do not take full advantage of it, here's why, because I can't stand when Netflix does their series, movies, etc blowing out a particular scene for WOW people while I myself can't even make out any details.. That right there as a reviewer, will lose points for doing that. And I might just not give it a good review picture wise. .keep pushing forward guys!
Have you been able to play the re release of the 4k movie Twister. It will not play on my Magnatar UDP900
The dolby vision pink problem on the sony x700. Yes I know it's probably one of the worst players hence relatively cheap. Is the x800m an improvement. And I know about the 500 dollar panasonic that auto detects dolby vision however I worry about one physical media youtuber having to take apart a player to get discs out.
On the star trek blu ray pausing or skipping. I have every star trek movie on blu ray. Three of the disks had skipping problems on my PANASONIC UB390 4K blu ray player. I upgraded to a Panasonic UB820 two years ago and it plays all of the movies flawlessly.
Good on ya Caleb, always a great source of info and entertainment. And to the hater/troll who doesn’t like my signature pride flag emoji celebrating my family members who are the victims of constant hate? This one’s for you. 👍🤪🏳️🌈🌈🏳️🌈🌈🏳️🌈🌈🏳️🌈🌈. Love is love. ❤
"I have really good HDMI cables."
Sorry but swap them out. Get CERTIFIED HDMI 2.1 cables. I've seen weird image issues and drop outs cause by having a "great" HDMI cable that someone owned for years and was HDMI 1.4 only and can't handle the data throughout needed for 4k properly with advanced audio etc.
I wholly support the question about HDR on 4K discs. I too have been underwhelmed by the HDR prestentation on many discs. The resolution was higher and the colors gamut larger, yes, but the dynamic range often did not seem to differ that much from regular SDR 1080p Bluray. Now, I have an older OLED, a LG E6 from 2016 that was never the brightest screen to begin with, but recently I ran a test where I switched of the HDR coming from my device, feeding the tv 2160p SDR instead. I saw no truly noticable difference. The thing is however, I _do_ clearly see the difference on Dolby Vision titles streaming on Netflix or Disney+. So I guess it really is a case of UHD Bluray discs underutilizing the format. We finally have something that can range up to a 1000 nits at least and now we're not using it. It's the opposite of the loudness wars on CD's where the far larger dynamic range CD's have compared to vinyl wasnt utilized either by having everything close to 0dBFS. Or is this just another case were film distributors want us to double dip AGAIN by releasing 'remastered HDR' or whatever they'll call it that _does_ use up to a 1000 nits. then 4000 nits, then 10,000 nits?
Cables are so cheap.....and cheaply made. Buy multiple if the TV or components are moving (on a mount) they fail. Often. Been through 10+ cables in my 15 years on HDMI. The longer the cable and the more it moves....the quicker the failure. Starts with pixilation then sound, then decoding errors.
To the guy with the disc freezing issues - I think it's probably an HDMI "handshake" issue with your TV. I have found occasionally blu-ray discs will have intermittent audio dropouts, and for awhile I blamed the discs,, or my blu-ray player, or my pre/pro, before it dawned on me that it felt like an HDMI handshake symptom. So I paused the disc, turned my TV off waited 10 seconds, then back on again, and the problem was gone. My HDMI cables are up to date, and in fact my TV is only a few years old, so that was the only possible culprit. Now when it happens I go straight to the TV. Hope that helps.
Hearing Caleb describe call center tech support, is a bit of a flashback. Some of the longest calls I had handling support on behalf of Xbox, getting Windows Media Center to connect to the 360 from a PC. Granted, I was on the team that made most of the knowledge base articles that addressed the varying degrees of issues that could and would happen. When I started at the call center, we had 2 Media Center articles, 2. Both amounted to, keep trying, if it doesn't work after 40 minutes, send to tier 2, lol.
Caleb. I've been a sub for years. I'm sorry that you felt like you needed to make this video about trolls, but I get it. Keep up the good work man, and I'll be here for years moving forward. Thank you!
100 nits is ok in a light controlled room. But we don’t watch all of our content in light control rooms. Most folks watch most of their content in multiple purpose rooms that are not light controlled at all, can you get away with 100 nits sure, your eyes are adjusted but why? Your point makes sense with 1,000 nits as most folks TVs can’t do 1,000 nits. But every TV can do 200+ nits. I think your argument makes very good sense especially for those top creators like Christopher Nolan and Joseph Kosinski.
I already know how to troubleshoot like a pro... cause I do it for my job lol. But, I'd still watch a troubleshooting video from you Caleb!
Sonos sound bars have an issue where the volume drops to zero. I’ve generally seen that happen after power failures or firmware updates. I have to up the volume again to address it temporarily, but if I turn the TV off and back on again, the volume is back at zero. Power cycling again will often fix it. There is also a kluge that worked with the old Sonos app where you change a bunch of audio and video configurations and then set them back. When it happened again after the new Sonos app, I found the kluge no longer worked, so I had to power cycle to fix it.
The Samsung audio drop out is definitely a TV issue. Ive had many soundbars and amps drop out using a Samsung TV. Its a handshake issue that I could never rectify. Once i moved to Sony, the issue disappeared.
With regards to the disc skipping, it might be the off gassing that happens. Look at the inside of the disc case. If it's cloudy looking, you need to wipe the case & the disc with microfiber cloths. Use separate cloth for the discs. I d recommend doing this every time you get a new bluray before playing them.
I appreciate everyone behind this channel that's posting positive, helpful, and fun content.
Only been aware of this channel for 3 or 4 months. Love what you do, it feeds my inner home theater and music listening nerd. Kind of surprised this is the first time hearing about the inevitable losers who love to hate on anyone they think has it better than they do. Water off a ducks back Caleb. Be the duck.
Great video as always Caleb. F the noise Cable. Opinions are like $h*ts everyone has them. Keep doing what your doing its a choice people can choose if they wanna become members.
Thanks for another great informative You Asked video! I always look forward to Sunday's for it. Have a great weekend to you and your team!
One of my favorite channels. Thank you for all that you do.
Regarding nits/brightness/highlights, seems like movie theaters are holding the tech back. It is amazing how slow technology can take in movies.
As the late Jerry Pournell once said (I paraphrase) if there is a problem between a computer and another device, first ting to do is switch cables. The cheapest possible fix and it is not uncommon to see that that fixes the issue.
For the Blu-ray player, if it isn’t the player or the TV or the sound bar that are the problem, maybe it might be the power. if the power isn’t clean or if it is a bit spotty, maybe that is causing the disc to stop spinning or freezing. For my house there is one outlet that is always spotty and whenever I plug-in electronics into that outlet they don’t work that well, but they work fine in other outlets. Just thought it might help.
But with the memberships, there are some channels that have millions of subs, that offer memberships, and you get nothing in return. Some people are also tired all all these subscriptions.
HDR is a mess. Stick with SDR. I still prefer 4K SDR.
Oh god how boaring dvds are
I always get a kick when I notice an editing screwup on a video. 6:40. With that with that :lol
Another vote for a dedicated troubleshooting video.
But some movies scenes are too dark. Not everyone watches it in a dark room.
But these directors do not care.
very good video Caleb, thank you 👍💯
Caleb’s onlyFans used HDR. ?
Troubleshooting tips would be great
Will you please evaluate AV receivers?
Caleb, you do awesome work!
Absolutely! Make that video!
Love the content, but when are we getting the b7 review?
Thank you Caleb.😊
Don’t feed the trolls
Keep up the great work
Thanks!
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Whoever made the video title must have had a stroke.
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No one has ever done a video comparing HDR with SDR. Manufacturers originally did but they turned the brightness down to 10 nits to make HDR look great 🙂 I've asked and we'll never get it.
Is HDR better than SDR - well without a single comparison, who's to say it's better? The issue with HDR is that they look at the bright scenes but they never look at the whole movie and dark scenes which is the entire movie.
It's like that myth of D65 calibration - once we all saw it, we thought our TVs were dead. Wait that's calibrated, did you mean deceased?
D65 myth? If you don’t like the look of displays post-calibration to broadcast/home video standards - that’s completely understandable, but to call it a myth is just ignorant.
@@j.rfrazier1855There's definitely a myth that D65 is superior just like HDR. These are essentially filters (filters with meta tags for HDR) that until we can A/B them, we honestly don't know what's better.
A lot of us are now seeing calibrated images through professional modes and Apple TV and seeing them even online we're scratching our heads thinking "why would I do that to my TV?"
It's akin to playing music restricting frequencies to the 100hz-5000hz range on my Audio system to meet some Hz100 protocol and saying that sounds better.
In HDR's case, it' going to be SACD (super resolution with muted midrange and very high bass and treble highlights). Why do that? Midrange is where everything resides and the sound will be completely unbalanced if we accentuate treble and bass over midrange and that's what I see in HDR images. The vocals (which is the actors in a movie) lose their focus and clarity as other parts of the image become too dim or bright. But it's not easy to set up an A/B of HDR.
@@techsamurai11 D65 is not about “superior” or subjectively looking the best. It’s matching the white point/greyscale used for mastering video content. It’s about attempting to see the content as closely as possible to a reference monitor, within the limit of your display’s capabilities. Nothing more, nothing less. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. If the whole video/broadcast industry is using the D65 white point for grading/mastering then that will get you closest to what they see in the color bays. But if you don’t like the look of D65 grey/white, the use Cool or whatever suits your eye. There’s no conspiracy around it.
I will agree with you that HDR grading can be hit or miss. For example, I’d rather watch my copy of the Heat 1080p BD over the 4K disc.
So it's better to watch Maverick, Oppenheimer, and Inside Out 2 in SDR. Does anyone know how long HDR has been around for? I guess it applies to all movies. Has anyone watched a movie that was superior in HDR than SDR?
Imagine paying for this shit. lol