How to Disassemble C60 6-Speed Transmission - Toyota Celica Corolla Matrix Lotus Elise - 2zz-ge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- The Toyota C60 transmission is a close ratio transmission that is paired with Toyota's high performance 4-cylinder engine, the 2zz-ge, found in Celica, Corolla, Matrix, and Lotus Elise. Disassembling the transmission is needed for internal repairs (synchronizers or bearings) or upgrades (limited slip differential/LSD). This can be done with commonly available tools without any need for factory Special Service Tools (SST). As always, we follow closely the step-by-step instructions of the factory service manual. It is strongly suggested that anyone attempting this procedure obtain a copy of this document, for reference.
Get your C60 Transaxle Factory Service Manual from this link:
drive.google.com/file/d/1B3-W...
This video should be of interest to anyone reparing or upgrading a C60 treanmission whether in original vehical or used in a 2zz-ge or 2zr-fe swap.
Disassembling the gears from the input and output shaft will be covered in another video.
NOTE: There are a few very brief segments of missing footage, for removing the gear selector shaft, the cover, the fifth gear and syncro removal (which lifts right off), and, more importantly, the upper shift fork snap ring. These are all relatively self-explanatory. Sorry for the missing footage.
00:00 Intro
0:30 6th Driven Gear and Output Shaft Bearing
3:31 6th Gear Snap Ring
6:06 6th Gear and Input Shaft Bearing
8:01 5-6 Shift Fork and Hub
9:24 5th Gear Snap Ring
10:38 5-6 Synchronizer Hub
11:40 5th Driven Gear
12:20 Shaft Bearing Retainer Plate
12:50 Bearing Retainer Snap Rings
15:05 Middle Case Removal
16:00 Reverse Gear Removal
16:35 Input and Output Shaft Removal
17:35 Differential Removal - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Your video was very helpful while taking apart my transmission. I am hoping part two gets posted real soon.
Thanks
Thanks for watching.
Very helpful video! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for taking the time to show us that. I am looking ot 2ZZ the spyder and it's hard to find stuff that doesn't need work.
Thanks for watching.
thanks for the video installing a lsd soon
Thanks for watching.
Any chance you could make a video detailing a 3rd replacement? Great video as always!
Thanks, confirmed what i thought.......re that 6th getting it off.......I just need to lean on the puller a bit more. Is pretty tight!!
Tried a small amount of heat as well but don't want to hurt temper.
Thanks very useful!!
Thank you for watching and for commenting.
Do you have the assembly video? I'm thinking of rebuilding the c60 on my 06 vibe gt and this is helpful. Never rebuilt a trans before.
Very good video and very detailed explanation , could you do the reassembly video next ?
awesome now i can install my LSD Diff, i hope you can show a reassembly video that would be lovely.
Thank you for watching.
More c60 and 2zzge videos mate! We love this awesome videos! Very helpful! Thank you!
Thank you for watching and for commenting.
@@Merryfrankster_ be well sir!
by the way on my c60 in 1st 2nd 3rd gear there is a small hum 1500-2500rpm with the windows closed and no music, someone told me it's the bearings in the gearbox but they don't break they just sound! is this true sir or is it dangerous? the hum is not heard if I have some music on or the window is open, i.e. it is weak, not strong, and no crackling
@@DimoS... yes it's possible it is a shaft bearing but it could also be from the clutch or clutch release bearing. If it gets worse you might have to investigate further and it if is livable just leave it alone. Just FHI 1st and 2nd gear syncros are on the output shaft and 3rd gear syncro is on the input shaft so the noise you report does not seem correlated to a specific shaft. Humming transmissions is nothing new, on other cars Toyota has TSB's for humming transmissions where they suggest replacing the axles then replacing the transmission mounts before finally replacing the entire transmission if the humming noise does not go away. Take all this with a grain of salt as I have not heard your noise and have absolutely no idea what is causing it.
@Merryfrankster_ thank you so much for your help sir! I appreciate it 🙏
When push the clutch the hum stop.
So is not a dangerous to brake the gearbox sometime, right? Also the trans work perfect and smooth (I don't understand excellent English, but the 99% from what you say)
@@DimoS... To be safe, drain the oil from the gearbox, collect the oil, and check for metal fragments in the oil. If you see a significant amount of metal fragements in the oil then you must remove the gearbox, open it, and make a repair.
Hello! I have only one problem with this gearbox on my Toyota powered Lotus Elise - 3rd gear grinding when gearbox is cold. 2 to 3 shifting. What is the required parts BEFORE I take transmission out from the car? Only synchrogear 33368-20090 or should I pre order something else? Thanks for your video and answer.
Did you try changing transmission fluid? Sometimes this solves the issue of cold transmission grinding. Redline MT90 is good. Anyway depending on how much wear or damage you find, you may need to change both the syncro ring and the hub.
Hi, thx so much for the video. Do you have a link to buy the bearing pullers you use - or just their diameter ? They seems to go perfectly on the pinions. Thanks
These are garden variety generic pullers. They come in sets but you can also buy them individually at any parts store, or from Amazon.com.
Very nice. I was wondering, when i wanna install kaaz gears with the final drive, does anything need to be hydrolic pressed into place during install or is it just plug and play
The gears for 5 and 6 need to be pressed back on to the shafts.
Great video, my 6th gear pops out back into neautral and if i hold it down it starts grinding, any tips? I heard i might have to just replace the 5th/6th shift fork. What do you think?
Thanks!
could be either the syncro or the shift fork.
@Merryfrankster thank you so much for making this. I'm the guy that made the facebook posts about Tom Armstrong's deleted video. This is super releaving to see.
I did not see your facebook post, but I did notice that the Armstrong videos were gone, and this prompted me in part to make this video. What's the story with Armstrong? He deleted his videos and his blog.
@@Merryfrankster_ no idea! It seems like he and his family just disappeared without a trace
@@tomkhodorkovsky1477 I found your facebook post and did some shameless self-promotion in a reply. Hope you don't mind.
@@Merryfrankster_ haha by all means. I'm just grateful to have members of the community who put out content to help the rest of us newbies 🙏
@@tomkhodorkovsky1477 yah you could actually say that I am a "senior" member. Hah hah.
Is this the same for the 2002 celica gt with the 5 speed or at least similar? I’m doing a whole rebuild on the engine and planning on wanting to do a rebuild on the transmission since it has 228k miles on it
It is similar but not exacty the same. The biggest difference is in gears 5 and 6. The five-speed has no gear 6 to remove. There is also a difference in the reverse lockout. Other than that it is mostly the same.
Hello from Florida, hope you can send me inbox the right direction. I remove all the components of the SMT HPU & GSA. The Transmission is in Neutral shaft with screwdriver in upright vertical. I can roll the vehicle, but the engine is rotating as if it's in gear. I can shift through gears, or place transmission gear and that locks the engine and the car won't roll. there is one gear on the top forward counter clockwise position duplicates allowing the car to roll with the engine rotating. Im not sure what gear it is. I'm not a transmission guy but I'm not afraid to open the trans if I have to. but I'm not sure what to look for?
Thank you for watching. I've answered your question on Spyderchat.
Thanks for making this video. I will attempt to rebuild a C60 and put in a LSD when my clutch goes. This maybe a stupid question but could the open differential be welded? LSD is not cheap...
Sure you can weld an open diff but it becomes undrivable. Forget about going around street corners or parking lots. It's useless for anything except high power drifting. You can get a used OEM helical LSD for about $500.
@@Merryfrankster_ c60 service manual 🙃
@@tkflex2332 you can request this by clicking on the link in the description.
@@Merryfrankster_ God Bless you sir 🙏🏾
@@tkflex2332 Thank you for watching.
Is it possible to change the 6th gear for lowering RPM at highway speeds?
you can find a gear set from a C63, C64, C65, or C66, then you should be able to do it. The input and output shaft are all the same.
Would you happen to have any c60 or c56 or any corolla manual conversion parts for sale?
Sorry I don't have anything.
Can I pay you for a phone call? I have a 2003 Pontiac Vibe GT w/ 2ZZ-GE w/6 speed manual . I (just me on my own) recently replaced the drive shafts and axle seals. Since then, at lower revs, I have some pretty significant lateral vibration that goes away as I speed up. I thought that maybe I bent the mount/bracket that couples with the intermediate bearing on the passenger side drive shaft as I really had to beat on it to free the passenger side drive shaft from it to get the old one out.
But now, in addition to the vibration, it is becoming increasingly difficult to shift in and out of gears and I assume that the clutch is not fully disengaging as it almost always grinds going into reverse even when I am stopped and the clutch pedal is fully depressed.
So far, I have done everything on this car myself with success from sub frame replacement, rear engine mount, steering knuckles, struts, wheel bearings, parking brakes, fuel tank, evap system cleanout/overhaul, and more. The drive shaft and oil seal project is the first one I have undertaken with (apparent) resulting issues.
I would be glad to compensate you for time on the phone if you may be able to help me troubleshoot the issue. If I have to take my car to the mechanic, I will, but I would prefer to know what's going on first.
Thank you
-Gabe
413-320-6214
Sorry I am terrible as a webmechanic without access to the vehicle. I would suggest that you sign up on spyderchat and get some community help with the issues.
Okay, thank you for getting back to me. Excellent videos by the way, I really appreciate the info.
Solid tear down. Video. Question,
If I pulled a c60 w/lsd and want the final drive from the toyota matrix, do I just need to remove and replace 6th gear?
To change final drive, you change the differential ring gear and the entire output shaft, with the output shaft pinion matching the ring gear. Final drive has nothing to do with 6th gear.
@Merryfrankster_ ok, so if I want the taller 6th gear out of the matrix for better highway fuel economy, whole output shaft needs to come out?
@@Ma70rk No, if you want to change the final drive, which is what you asked, the output shaft has to come out. If you want to change sixth gear, that's a different question, you can do that just swapping sixth gear from your donor vehicle on both input shaft and output shaft. Words have meaning. Final drive does not mean highest gear.
@Merryfrankster_ thanks for clearing that up! Will definitely consider. Plotting if I want to attempt my own lsd installation, or buy donor c60 and swap 6th gear.
Thank you! ✊🏼
Hi, I requested the C60 manual and got it. Thanks a lot. For the swap, beside the shifter shaft and reverse blockout, what else do I need? Computer, shifter cables, 6 speed shifter box,...? Thanks again for your very helpful vids.
Depends what you are starting with. Sounds like you have the bases covered
@@Merryfrankster_ My car is just an all stock C56 + 1zz + 1zz ECU Spyder and I think I just need a 6th gear to lower the highway RPM a little bit and put in an LSD while I'm at it. So that means beside the C60 gearbox, all I need is the conversion shaft and reverse blockout? No electronics or anything else?
@@diehardcat You do not need any electronics whatsoever. If this is a street driven car you do not need an LSD. and with 1zz stock power, LSD is nearly pointless anyway. Just do a Corolla fifth gear swap on your C56, it lowers the gear ratio from 0.8x to 0.7x, and you will be set.
Your video is very cool. In 3 or 4 weeks, I will disassemble a c64 gearbox.
Why are you find the gearbox manual ?
Request download.
Would you know the difference between a C60 and EC60? Cheers
EC60 is a newer trans. Most significant difference is bellhousing. Will not bolt up to 1zz/2zz. Bolts up to 2zr. I am not familiar enough to list all other differences, or tell you whether bell housing could be swapped.
Do you have an email? I have a few questions about a 1zz to 2zz swap, I need some information on speed sensor wiring. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated, I watched a little bit of the video on the 2ZZGE pin out on the ecu/ecm but I still have a few questions.
Ask your questions here. Speed signal to the ECU comes from the ABS. VSS in transmission is blanked off not used. For more info sign up to spuderchat.com
@@Merryfrankster_ I have a 1zz to 2zz swap no abs
Did you ever upload the re assemble video.?
sorry, no, did not shoot that video.
Gold
Right on!
So my syncro of first to second gear is no good. But this disassemble is like rocket science to me lol
1st and 2nd gear syncros are on the output shaft and require removal of the 3rd and 4th gear. These are the toughest to replace.
Guy sounds like van driesen off bevis and butthead lol
Been compared to Mr. Bean too.
Hi man! Thanks for all your informative videos, they're really useful. I've got a question that maybe you could answer. I just found out my c60 gearbox is making an ugly noise while coasting ONLY on 5th gear. While driving you only hear it while coasting, so today i lifted the rear end of the car and filmed this video in which the 5th gear is making noise also while accelerating, what do you think it is? the output shaft bearing? the bearing that is just under the 5th pinion? the pinions itself? th-cam.com/users/shortsifNfsp2nuGo
thanks in advance!
Hard to say what could be making noise. At least you have it narrowed down to fifth gear.
dam the way toyota made these are pia compare to hondas.
Seriously? Watch my other video for disassembling the RSX six-speed.
But in fairness, newer Toyota trans are more like the rsx, no more split case. That said - the split case does add rigidity and makes for a stronger transmission.
@@Merryfrankster_ i can do k series trans. the three piece housing on these c series trans is a pain.
@@Merryfrankster_ in theory, but probably just overly complicated compare to Honda’s b and k series trans. just being honest here i work on both, no bias.
@@axsb As somebody with practically no experience with manuals, both the Toyota and Honda FWD transaxles are simpler to take apart than I'd have imagined