Monster Plymouth 440 Dyno Tested - Frankenstein Returns
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The last time Nick had this big 440 on the dyno, it was nearly blowing gaskets with too much compression.. now the beast is back for another trip to the red line.
The Dominator Carb came with the engine parts. Yes. too big and needs to be overhauled. Not going with this carb set up. It will be finished on the Dyno with a smaller carb. Should had said it during the testing.
We know you won`t stop until it hits over 600hp. Best of luck!! Glad you had a nice vacation, I am glad to see you back at the dyno Nick. Kowalski project coming along nicely! The day is coming when it rolls out of the shop under it`s own power. Can`t wait for THAT video!!
Nick: Since the 440"s compression ratio is already 13 plus to one. I wonder how this engine with the proper fueling system would make on Alcohol??
850 cfm or 950 cfm ?
@@Silkmaster4200 We are staying with the 850.
Hey Nick just to let you know I love your shows and you definitely do you know your way around an engine I myself have a little knowledge and I was just observing and thought I didn't look right I wasn't trying 2 make it sound rudely or anyting keep up the awesome work
Everyone needs a mechanic like Nick.
You have to admire Nick's determination. He just won't quit until the engine does what he wants.
On a Monday what could be better than "NICK'S GARAGE".....To start off the day...Nothing at all....Thanks Nick....Once again....!
A .30, 440, upwards of 13.1 with a 1000 cfm dominator on it.
Just the sound is intoxicating.
Watching you spray water on the headers bought back old memories.
Carry on Nick.
The way of the muscle car will never die.
T.
P.S.
We always used second and third hand parts.
Guys, does it really halfto be said DO NOT CALL INDY AUTO. Nick is running a business and he cant spend all his time answering your calls ok, if you have a question EMAIL HIM! Do not waste his time if you are not a customer, let him reply to you on his own time when he can!
That 440 don’t like being green! Paint it orange and it will run better!!
i use to put them in the ocean
Wow
The carb view was great!
Really showed how the Holley high speed enrichment works through the Accelerator Pump nozzles.
Sorry Paul but you are wrong
@@mindblownwatcher8536 I agree. He triple checked the AFR and it was spot on every time. It just sounds like a ton of overlap and a cold intake manifold .Perfectly normal running for the (secret ) cam timing shes running. A lot of experts these days are too used to EFi .
AFR might have been right but Paul is correct about it siphoning fuel from the front squirter, there is a check valve that prevents that from happening, note the rear one wasn't doing it.
The check valve lifts at high vacuum thereby allowing fuel to pass. Is it a locked valve?
No it is held down by its own weight for this reason.
Paul Dana
Do some research and get back to me.
It is especially used on the 2bbl carbs to prevent high rpm lean-out.
Do you really think Nick uses a stock Holley?🙄
Who needs tv when we can watch Nick's Garage? I love the hot rod engine close ups like the dominator in action. I had 906 heads on my 440 and could smoke the tires on demand with the purple shaft 474 advanced 4 degrees running a 780 double pumper spread bore holly. Thanks Nick for the videos.
The engines would sound better with surround sound and a subwoofer.
@@steve-ph9yg would sound almost like you were in the Dyno room,I think I will try it with just a stereo!
Love to hear a big motor and a 4 barrel carb scream music to my ears!!!
Fire breathing 440........and music to my ears. Nice Nick l enjoyed ever bit of that. Can't get any better than that. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
One of my favorite things about Nick's Garage is they don't make themselves seem perfect by deleting all the scenes where they are tuning everything in. Se channels edit those out and just show the engines running the way they want, but for all intensive purposes Nick's keeps it as real as possible!
Apache Dog. The saying is "intents and purposes"
Yeah. It's good seeing real runs and the frustration when it isn't quite right. But, Nick never gives up!
@@jarvistotherow-competitive7429 Lmfao
@@jarvistotherow-competitive7429 You sure its not "For all in tents, and porpoises" ?
You know he is a good mechanic by tge way he scratches his head and you see his thought process as his fingers point to this, that and the other. The process of elimination is obvious.
Got fuel?- yep
Got compression?- yep
Got spark?- yep.
Ok, so it must be timing, give it 4° more, then another 4°, oops to much, back it off by 2°.
And wallah, we have the Pow-er!...
Frankenstein is more like the bride of Frankenstein, heading toward menopause , grumpy , hot and occasionally b****y
PMS
Lol 😵
@@tomnekuda3818 punish my spouse lol
Third hand nothing!!! That is B1 baby won 3 NHRA pro stock championships with the B1 Darrell Alderman and Scott Geffrion and Wayne county speed! Love this color has something to be desired just a note Nick Wayne county made 1,200-1,300 HP with these engines back in the day.....run it till it raps! Then rebuild.....hit the loud peddle!!!! 👍👌 Nice Nick!
i saw the green and the first thing that came to mind was omg 😮 its a big green monster !! with a toilet bowl on top !
The primary sqirter is siphoning fuel at full throttle in the high RPMs making it run rich.
would be great to see a segment on setting up idle mixture to compare guessing vs correct based on the O2 sensor.
Pulling fuel out of the primary squirter loosing power
I saw that also it was just running out during load...
All holleys do that
I saw that myself. I've never seen one do that before.
@@dbc105 there is venturi effect through the main bores as well as the "venturis", and it will suck fuel from anywhere it can get it provided theres enough vacuum
@@greekfrenchman4434 this carb is crap, you can hear it, I can.
Amazing video Nick! I have a 1050 CFM Holley as well, didn't realize that much fuel goes in at full throttle until I saw the Go-Pro video. Its like sticking a garden hose in there ; )
finland. The carburator is no good. Needs overhauling. Too big for this engine.
Nick your the best at making power with Mopar I will always support and I love you show you great person in the world from East texas
Sam. Thank you Sir.
The Green gobbler sounds pretty healthy Nicky
Wow Nick that 'Frankenstein' sure looks the part in green, I'm sure you will get it sorted Nick though like some have said below the back or the carby not getting as much go juice as the front looking at the close ups. Nice to see more stuff arriving for the project too, thanks bro.
blinkie. Not going with this carb. Came with the engine parts as the customer bought them as is.
@@nickpanaritis4122 Wise move there bro.
That carb is nuts. It’s like 4 lawn sprinklers turned upside down.
That engine should be making way more power! I've never had good luck with the zinc metering blocks on dominators, I've always had to use billet aluminum metering blocks to smooth em out. Also the power valve is blown almost certainly. Wonder what the vacuum is? Maybe that carb is in need of a rebuild and some new parts? That should free up some ponies..overheating issues? Overbored? Or disimiliar metal heating at heads? Also a phenolic plenum spacer may help, and possibly some sort of velocity stack too? I'm wondering what output heat range the engine make most it's power at? Bigger radiator? Some of my best power producing engines were Frankensteins, made up of used parts.
Nick is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Great YT channel.
Carb not right for sure. Squirter only work on initial shot, they don't keep dumping gas.
It's Monday and it means one thing Nick's back again making muscle cars sing This 440 is an incredible hulk A monster way to shift a muscle cars bulk Flat tappet solid cam Whoever built this is knows his stuff man! It's on a Dyno test Coz only Nick knows how to wring out the best!
Tanks for your contribution, Mr Roberto. Class act.
@@NicksGarage Thanks Nicks engines are the best way to empty petrol tanks ;)
Doesn't look like your accelerator pump is working right on your carburetor
Major fuel pullover from the accelerator nozzles
Saw that too. On the run up the primary squirters are hosing gas. Whatever fuel pressure #2 sensor is measuring is dropping out on the top end. Something odd with the secondary throttle blades. They don't look like they are sync with the primaries until you go wide open. Aren't all dominators 1:1 on the linkage? The engine just doesn't sound right.
Good eye.... the amounts of gas this beast was slurping may be the cause of all the
global warming we hear so much about.
Defines the word thirsty !
@@gruberstein I saw that too! Carb needs a fresh rebuild IMO.
Too lean on the rear 4, rich on front 4 because of the drooling accelerator pump. The lean rear 4 might be causing the overheating?
Love those camera shots. The backfires and carb functionality from above... Pretty cool stuff!
Very cool video!!! A green 440? I guess everybody has their tastes... But the Orange with wrinkle black finned aluminum valve covers and aluminum intake, is what seems to fit perfectly on any Mopar...
Maybe a mismatch in the intake to cylinder head fitment? That could cause the 30 HP difference pretty easy.
The problem is an unbalanced plenium fool!
I promise when I bring my Super Bee to the shop and my Daytona they will have a full gas tank! ;) Nice episode!
I had a 511 with Indy Heads, roller cam and a dominator that made 725. Something's definitley wrong here.
mark.. Just went for a fast test with his old carb that is too big and needs overhauling. Dyno not finished with this set up.
My dad had a 440 in the garage and somebody stole it I couldn't believe it when I seen it was gone he was so upset he sold his project Belvedere that he was going to turn into a roadrunner
I was always interested in how it looks in action. Thanks for your footage
I have a 496 with a flat tap pit cam 283 @ .050 (313) duration 638 lift 12.5:1 compression edelbrock rpm heads a 1000 cfm demon race carb it made 665 hp@ 5800 and 646lbft @ 4900 at 40 degrees of timing
That engine doesn't sound happy junk that carb
CheckEngine Light totally agree 850cfm max that toilet bowl is for a much bigger motor
Check. Need to go with a smaller carb. We tried it for fun since it came with the package.
I wouldn't junk it seeing as how it would make a killer trot line weight.
@@attitudeadjusted9027 right..
Great video George , i'm sure Nick will get Frankenstein over 600 hp , hope Kowalski is close to hitting the road ,can't wait to see it
That engine looks great
Thanks great video
Great pulls and some great detailed carb cam action (with great lighting.) 👍☮
I'm fascinated and in awe of what not only what Nick does but what the industry is able to achieve today. Its a long way from the 1950's when we worked kept our rides ruining by worked with our father's tools, and one light bulb in a dirt floor garage. I always look forward to Monday mornings. Thanks Nick.
Wow. Thats an enormous amout of fuel going through that carb. Unbelievable. Edit... Good view of the backfiring. Cool go pro Nick! Always fun here. Always fun!
I personally think that carb is WAY to big for that bone stock 440 engine. An 850CFM is plenty for that application, and thats pushing it. A 1000CFM is WAY overkill
William Johnson what cc are the combustion chambers, im not sure if he mentioned that. Aluminum heads dont mean squat unless the combustion chamber is over stock. The cubic inches of the engine and the rpm range is what really determines the appropriate CFM of the carb.
Andrew. Yes, way too big. Came with the engine, tried it, no good. Going with a smaller carb.
Love your bids nick!! It challenges my mind to learn more and more about engines and fuel delivery etc
Yeah...down here we would say it has the staggers. That cam is a pig with all that overlap. An 850 would flow better and more evenly. But Nick knows all this. There is no reason not to get 100hp per litre...760, with the right induction. It already has the heads and compression. Maybe that manifild is crook.
is there a distributor setup available for these big blocks that incorporates a knock sensor with computer controlled timing? like my benz does when i have different grades of fuel it sets the timing perfect on the fly.
hitch. Not that I know of.
Is it the camera? That engine ain’t happy.
Andrew. Carb no good. Engine not happy.
Engine has sounded sick since the first start up. I would swap that carb off it.
Killed your cylinder quench. I would of went with the .039 before the .060
Wow that's alot of fuel being drawn out of the accelerator pump... Handy camera indeed
People PAY you to do this?? It hurt my brain to watch this.. I was just waiting for you to say " I need to talk to Jiminy da fish! about Dis carb!"
Monty. Time for some major changes on this engine. Did not take any pay yet until finished. Brother Jimmy said, let's fix it the way we had it many years ago.
Damn I love that sound!
@Neal Head good ole Neal.. we can always rely on you for you happy and helpful opinion.. your such a lovely fellow.. and I am willing to be if you had any friends they would say that same thing! Merry Christmas Neal..
front venturis fuel not equal spray to rear ones on carb...is this normal
motor. Carb no good. Needs overhauling. Going with smaller carb.
Carb is obviously a problem, nice feature with camera taking video. Soon as Nick kicked base timing up started to backfire into intake track either distributor advance mechanism is off or adjusted wrong or I'M wondering a tight intake valve. I'm also surprised there is no vacuum gauge hooked up? Idle is off, rough.
The wideband O2 readings must be very rich with the fuel that's pouring out the accelerator pump nozzles.
"Not making any power" After a pull of over 500 HP... Nick is great man...lol.
That ole girl sounds rough... sure you didn't lose an intake lobe?
Davis. NO. carb issues.
Raining in Thailand this past week end...….perfect for re-watching Nick s garage old videos. As many said, this is much better than TV. And thanks Nick for sharing your passion with us. Merci
Thank you!
NEED TO ADVANCE VALVE TIMING [[ONE TOOTH ON THE TIMING CHAIN ]TO GET THE BEST OUT OF THAT COMBINATION . POPPING THROUGH CARB. NOT GOOD WITH THAT MUCH OVERLAP. AFTER TIMING CHAIN STRETCHES IN THE FUTURE. JUST A SUGGESTION[. LOVE YOUR VIDS NICK.
I love the big cam motors, they sound like a group of horses galloping together.
I've never seen an aluminum headed, solid cammed, 15-1 big block of any kind unable to make 600hp. This is a first.
That Dominator ain't Dominatin' like it should. Primary side has some issues.
X. Needs overhauling.
Got an 850 cfm sitting on my garage shelf right now if you need something easier to work on.....can't imagine running a Dominator on the street. Good to see you back Nick! If that was a Ford we'd get to hear Nick cuss!!! When that thing winds up it looks like four little boys pissing down the bores of the carb right as Niagara Falls comes on. That much fuel has gotta be washing all the oil off the cylinder walls......gonna seat the rings, I reckon.
Tom. Thanks. Dominator is too big and needs overhauling. If I do need the 850, will comment back to you. By the way, I have all the carbs for testing in the dyno room.
You go Mr Nick !😎. You have a great show !. You need a war just to give that motor gas ! 😄😆
Is it just me or is that Dominator bogging down? Looks to be putting entirely to much fuel in, I would like to see the air-fuel ratio on that setup. I think an old Holley 850 double pumper or Edelbrock AVS2 is the best bet for that engine.
Wish we had someone like you in my neighborhood....
Texas....👍🇺🇸
You make it look fun ..
Close up and personal
there is and internal problem in that engine. the carb is not the only issue
Gam. We ran a 750 Holley with no issues. To check for internals.
Hi Nick, it looks like you still have the vaccum cap on the distributer, you may need to take it off. If there is advance weights in that distributer by leaving the rubber plug on the vaccum canister it will hold the advance mechanism from working like it should. Ran into this problem years ago on my friends small block chevy. And from the looks of all the backfiring through the carburator the distributer is not advancing Fast Enough causing the backfire. Hope this helps.
The vac canister has nothing to do with the mechanical advance weights and wont impede anything. I agree the engine runs like its been traumitized and definately is not well.
People have been running to big of Carbs since the beginning of hot rodding.
Mark. We are not staying with this huge carb. Just trying it out since it came with the parts .
@@nickpanaritis4122 I understand that from watching the video, I'm sure you'll figure out the right size from the testing.
so weird hearing you speak French nick! LOL I miss living in Montreal!
People hear me speaking French in Toronto (now that I live here) and they freak out lol
Damnit Nick, you and your ASMR dyno. I had to watch this video twice since I was lulled to sleep the first time. Talk about sweet dreams.
High heat and low power? Possible blow-by and lean fuel delivery. Maybe try a better carb
Any one see the fuel pressure drop to below 4 psi? It is starving for fuel....Play it in slow motion on 3rd run I believe around 17:30
Those damn Fords! They never run right...oh wait, it's a 440 Mopar. Just kidding Nick. :-) Anything you say can and will be used against you. ;-)
Brian. GUILTY !!!!!!
Um, why is the vacuum advance hole plugged on the distributor? Isn't there suppose to be a hose there?
Alan Kilgore It does nothing at full throttle.
Salut Nick! Merci pour un autre bon video!! 440 monster!!!👍👍👍👍
Hi Nick! I think there is something wrong with Frankenstein.... bad fuel management at low R.P.M...it may also have a tight piston or two. It might explain the high temps. Excessive
C.F.M. in the mid range is narrowing the power band. Try an 850 Holley, it might be better.
Alex G. 🤓
Alex. I know. Just trying it out for the customer who bought it with the engine in pieces. Too big and needs overhauling. Going with an 850 CFM.
Running way rich, flooding on the mains... flote level is in correct, or a nozzle has fallen out...Thing runs as we say here in holland, Als een natte krant..(like a whett news paper...
Mr. Not using this carb. Too big and needs overhauling.
The carb should be able to get the 440 to 8000 rpm with no issues but, would the bottom end suffer?
I like the idea of finding a good set of used heads and buying a brand new engine to put them on.
With out a doubt the problem is the over sized carburetor, wrong jets, and problems with the accelerator pump, its like pouring a bucket of fuel into the engine whilst its running.
850 cfm carb would respond way better then that DOMINATOR
vhp454. Yes, I agree. Just tried it for fun since it came with the engine parts. Going with 850 cfm.
@@nickpanaritis4122 just curious, have you ever tried any cross ram intakes with twin carbs. And did they increase any hp or torque.
@@vhp454 . No, not yet.
Nicks garage engine power test videos always leave me speechless. Very entertaining!
Thank you Nicks garage for putting your selves out their like that. 👍👍😁
Sounds to me being TH-cam famous has some downsides for a guy trying to do legitimate business. "Oh hi Nick, I love your videos.. can you tell me what spark plugs came on a 1972 318 road runner? Do you think it will make more power with E3's? Do you have a steering wheel for my car? Can we talk about why my wife left me?" Nick needs a way to separate the youtube clowns from the people who will be doing serious work at his shop.
l seen this before where the engine was running to hot it turn out to be the head gasket water ports hole were to small they had to pull the head off and make the water ports holes bigger.
It is firing on open intake valves, that has nothing to do with the carb. Something hanky with the timing chain and sprockets.
Magnus. Timing was off.
I love that you got the camera right in there Nick...I requested and you delivered! On a dominator too! I love it! Are there different boosters you can swap out?
That's not a double pumper, It's a double dumper.
Been away for three weeks so lets take it from there...😁
Seems odd to me that a 440 built like that (or any 440) would make more HP than torque. But I'm sure the green monster will be happy once more after some surgery in Dr. Nick's operating room 🤒
bad. We are not done with this engine yet.
That was interesting how the fuel was going into the carburetor.
I would like to see the same scenario with trap speed of the wind. Let’s say 145
Awesome Nick《☆》I haven't seen B1 heads since the Wayne county Dodge boy Pro stock days :*: Some body paid big money for those when they were new :*: Looks like You're on the right trail :*: Kowalski parts♡Always Nice🤓☻🤠
That's a lot of cylinder head for 440 cubes , I would expect the RPM to want to go higher ?
After he figures out why it's coughing up..
John. These are old heads with small intake runners.Need to ask my customer if he wants them ported.
@@nickpanaritis4122 Is that a B1 head or something else ?
@@dartgts383 . Yes B1. Brodix.
WOW nick it must be hard to hold your tongue! With all these repetitive comments pointing out the obvious junk carb! Lol!!!😁
Nick your engines don't backfire through the carb when on the test stand. I said to my friend, oh - oh that should not happen. Something is not right with that carb. Glad to see my suspicions were correct.
Rain. Need to get rid of the Dominator, no good.
Holley needs to rename The Dominator The Shower Head WOW. great GOPRO shots never see a backfire even know mine does when cold. a 30 over 454 with a Street HP 850 cfm Holley.running a 3000 stall THD 400 in a 69 Camaro Cool to see why my gas gauge goes down so fast, HaHa. Way cool shop thank you for sharing,From Scott, House Springs,MO.
That overheating problem would worry me.
Yeah. That chincy little 12V belt drive water pump setup always worried me. I don’t mind a little parasitic loss on mine with with a slightly underdriven v-belt pulley for the sake of engine longevity.
That carb is garbage, toss it out the back door, and it seems to have a TON of blow by.
You should put some extra video monitors in the test cell so you don't have to keep going back into the control room to check the "gauges". Or put a big one on the wall behind the desk so you can see it through the window. Going back and forth would get on my nerves. Nice work as always.
I think your power valve is done. Backfire could be a clue. Carb drips fuel. And it had wet throttle valves when you cut it off. It should be a monster
dah. Carb no good. Going with a smaller carb.
Why do the primary accelerator pump nozzles inject fuel throughout the entire run?
65. Carb needs fixing.
Good Monday morning all. A little nippy too, Fall is around the corner....(😳) , in Montreal anyway.
Shhhh. Not yet!
Yep 9 degrees here in Georgetown Ontario this morning! Brrrrrrr!
96°f in Florida today🤓☻🤠
Was 90’s in Texas today.