Could You Make A Space Suit From Duct Tape?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- NASA has used 'gray tape' to solve a few problems in space, but the season 2 finale of 'For All Mankind' includes a scene with a pair of astronauts improvising a pressure suit from oxygen masks and duct tape. And it turns out that this isn't as ridiculous as you might imagine, a pressure suit doesn't need to provide atmospheric pressure, but mechanical pressure and the strength of material required is well within that provided by off the shelf tape.
"For All Mankind" tells a story of a space program in an alternate universe where the Soviet Union lands on the Moon before NASA and the space race never stops.
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There's a couple of great books from NASA which cover the technical details:
Dressing For Altitude
www.nasa.gov/pdf/683215main_D...
Bioastronautics Data Book
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TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF FLEX TAPE, I MADE A SPACE SUIT OUT OF IT
This is the way
I sawed this suit in half!
IT EVEN WORKS UNDERWATER!!!
This could ruin cosplay.
(Airlock scene from Event Horizon) THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE!
"Does duct tape work in a vacuum? You may ask. The answer is, of course it does. Duct tape is magic and should be worshipped."
in the show, they said the adhesive would boil, so tape yes, glue no.
Duct tape cult
*duck tape - everyone writes it the wrong way.
@@vorname1485 its duct tape look it up
@@dylanrimmer No, I'm pretty sure it's duck tape.
Just finished 'For All Mankind' and i laughed when they took out the rolls of duct tape.
One thing though, during the scene you could see the tape coming off or unraveling and blood boiling off into vacuum. Can't imagine the agony that must feel like.
You knew they were bleeding internally.
@@dalethelander3781 just adds to his point
There was a video where dude put his hand in a vacuum chamber. Looked a little less dramatic though
@@user-tj5fg3zy3r its not the vacuum you have to worry about in space
@@nickowen7406 It’s the Aliens
10:22 "you don't need hundreds of rolls tape, you just need one or two" *flips off the people who think you need hundreds of rolls*
>"You don't use duct tape to fix your air ducts."
>Proceeds to describe how to use duct tape to reinforce human air ducts.
You do actually use duct tape to fix ducts. Looks just like duck tape, but better quality.
Not to be confused with foil metal tape.
@@JoshuaTootell
Your phrasing confused me, but yes, metal foil tape is the modern _literal_ duct tape.
Grey tape will work on ducts, until it fails. Temperature change (like you see on ducts) turns the adhesive brittle and solid, and the coated fabric decays, fairly quickly.
Din't use the standard fabric-backed grey "duct tape" on your HVAC ducts. It'll work for awhile, but will eventually fail and require you to re-do everything. This is coming from a guy who's spent countless hours under apartment buildings re-assembling dryer vent ducts. What you want to use is metal tape; essentially heavy aluminum foil with a more stable adhesive applied to one side.
The truth is that for any given specific application, there's usually a specialized product that will do a better job, and will hold up better long-term. But as a catch-all field expedient tool for temporary or emergency patching or securing tasks, it's hard to beat a roll or two of the classic duct tape.
@@AntiComposite
I can attest to this. I had a duct _fall off_ the ceiling (the ceiling was open) and land on the ground. I only noticed it 2 months later after the depths of winter had passed, and just couldn't figure out why my room wasn't getting warm.
The problem with making a scene like this more realistic, is that more people would complain it is too far from reality...
Well, it's a pretty fantastical scene.
I probably wouldn't believe it even if it was a true story.
haha! so true!
Well donchaknow about Stanley K. and the fantastic space mission? Oh man was it the best recording ever, the earth if flat of course so we could NEVer actually do anything like that. Someone tried to teach me physics once, got to the part on ballistics, I figured out by removing the s at the end I could make em go away faster. Great stuff.
@@Mardhyn you are wasting your intelligence on doing everything you can to not do real work and learn real science……
@@Mardhyn cant tell if trolling or smooth brained
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If the ladies don't find ya handsome, they should at least find you handy.
keep your stick on the ice
Most under rated comment right here.
Wow
thats hilarious😂
Hey Scott, loved your analysis! I noticed something during the episode that might influence it. Molly mentions a time or two that they'll need to empty their lungs before going out. That mention, plus the lack of an apparent oxygen supply for their masks, seems to imply that Gordo and Molly are actually just powering through this thing with empty lungs, rather than getting any air from the masks. They appear to be using them as a rigid element to cover their faces and still have some visibility rather than life support. It seems like the lack of oxygen is the limiting factor to their time of useful consciousness, since the suits seem to do a decent job for what they are.
True. Also I don't mean to be a name police or something but the girl that went out with Gordo is Tracy. My dad gets names wrong or outright forgets sometimes so I get it lol. Just letting you know :)
Yes this! This whole video missed a bunch of major points
would their lungs stay empty? A little air would remain in their lungs when they exhale. Without pressure, would that expand to fill their lungs, like a small bubble deep underwater gets bigger as it rises?
@@joshm3484I’m no expert, but if there is only a small amount of air, then it could escape without much trouble. Since it takes the way which offers the least resistance and there is not so much air trying to escape all around once. But if there is no other route to the vacuum, which is the case in the show because they have masks (apart from maybe other significant openings of the body, they could maybe suffice), then I don’t know what would happen
Hello, i am aneaesthesiologist and great fan of your channel, but I have to point out that you made a mistake. 4:34 you said that lungs will rupture and gas bubbles will go into the bloodstream causing embolism. That's not the mechanism of barotrauma - lugs will rupture and gas will break delicate structure of alveoli of the lungs causing pneumothorax - gas will enter the space between lungs and ribcage, and with each breath there will be more gas in this constricted space, essentially creating one-way valve, thus raising the pressure inside the ribcage, compressing the lungs and the heart. Veins entering heart and a part of the heart called atrium is very soft, so when compressed it will restrict the amount of blood, lowering the blood pressure and causing a blackout. Cheers from my nighshift!
Thumbs up for nightshift! :)
Well that sounds even more horrid. Thanks!
@@jonathanfairchild Yeah, "cheers!" at the end after that horrifying description, lol.
Im so glad there are smart people with better thinky thoughts than me. Nifty
I’ve had pneumothorax and an embolism (from a car crash, a transport truck came into my lane) - can’t say I recommend it ahaha
“Duct tape is magic and should be worshipped”
- Mark Watney
ALL HAIL THE GREAT AND POWERFUL DUCT TAPE!!!
The Cult Mechanicus would go crazy for duct tape. Praise the Omnisiah!
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Arthur C Clark
All this time the Ductists and Duckists were fighting over who was right, not realising that they were worshiping the same god!
@@Yea_I_Got_Nothing I'm guessing a PPS would need a slightly elastic material to actually provide mechanical pressure. So grey tape or basic PVC tape rather than metal foil tape.
By far one of the best episodes ever made. Seriously. So many emotions, so much anxiety, and so much connection to 2 of the best characters ever written for screen. For All Mankind is FIRE. ACES. Perfection. Finally a show that has real emotion.
That scene almost broke me, couldnt stop thinking about it, and the character development of those 2 is just insanely good. I could not agree more, 2 of the best characters ever written for screen.
I can only hate watch this soapy series. Clearly it has an audience who doesn't hate it.
@@bjnslc Think they made a mistake killing those 2 characters off. This last season has indeed reminded me aswell more of an soap series then the first 2, so I agree with you on that. First 2 seasons I really enjoyed though.
I agree. Season 2 was the strongest season for me, S3 felt a little flat with out Tracy and Gordo.
@@bjnslc At first I was a little put off by the super woke messaging (normally something I hate) but I stuck around because the acting was good and I liked some of the characters.
The show really grew on me by the end of season 2.
Season 3 I agree with you completely again, very soap-opera feeling.
Thing is, those two characters didn't have _oxygen masks_ . They just had gas masks poorly pressed against their faces in vain attempt to slow down desiccation of their eyeballs. However, upon decompression, the moisture would precipitate immediately and cover the mask with frost, rendering their view unusable. They did exhale air to prevent pulmonary rupture which doesn't make much sense if they already wanted the masks and tape to work.
So in theory, running like 25 m there and back, to switch few cables and press a switch or two is possible, but it would require a lot of duct tape (they were poorly wrapped in the scene), mask held firmly against the face, probably some aluminium foil to prevent thermal damage to the tape, and breathing pure oxygen for few minutes before leaving. Injuries would be inevitable, as well as pain, but one could survive and likely stay reasonably focused during 15 s. The couple died because nobody administered emergency help after pressurization.
- "Manufactured by Generic Plot Device Corporation" Hollywood should use that more often.
They do -- all the time! My wife constantly reminds me that when watching science fiction or fantasy movies -- or even things like cop shows, where cars are blown into the air because one bullet penetrated the gas tank -- we're witnessing TV/Movie Physics. In those universes, the laws of physics behave however the writers need them to.
Call it GPD Corporation
Yes, it is... I basically dropped watching this show after I saw that they put space marines in it... A good idea at the beginning, spioled by usual clichés and tropes.
Acme Corporation: products that work - in theory (meep meep)
The GPD Corporation.
Somehow, this actually sounds like a real thing.
Congrats for Scott Manley starring as a Soviet moon base commander, excellent performance!
I had to pause the video for 20 hours to watch the show, because I've never heard about it before, but it was worth it.
Wish Mythbusters was still on the air. I can totally see them doing this one with the help of NASA and an instrumented Buster.
well simple make a real time machine and save Grant from that accident that killed him and tada the show will not get taken off the air it will be like the butterfly effect
@@raven4k998 The final episode of mythbusters aired two years before Grant passed away. He also died of an aneurysm unrelated to any accident.
Scott continues his tradition of flipping us off every episode at 10:26
I was wondering about that why does he do it?
@@andjoa1975 some poeple do index finger stuff with the middle finger instead. Its more common in russia from what i know
@@kirtil5177 Looks like you uncovered a russian spy...
Scott salute!
Fang you too, Scott ;D
"Duct Tape is Magic and Should be Worshipped" ~M Watney.
"Can you actually make a Space Suit out of Duct Tape?" ~S. Manley.
"Why I actually HATE Duct Tape!" ~Adam Savage
😂 adam savage. Did you see his latest lame reaction wheel engine failure? Enough said
@@joelnorton9742 Who the hell are you to think engineers don't fail?
@@joelnorton9742 I mean he was on a show for a number of years where the whole point of it was to test ideas that were simply myths or weren’t well known about. That show had like a 50% failure rate, but that was part of the show. Just like failure is part of engineering. There is simply no science that you can do that has a 100% success rate, otherwise what would you learn from it? I don’t know what you do for a living, if anything, but you probably don’t have a 100% success rate. If you do then I can almost guarantee that that means you haven’t done it enough.
Well, that's why savage got his ship disassembled in orbit around Venus. Should've used more duct tape.
The duct tape fandom gained some activity this week
Thanks for the science on this, it was fascinating to learn it!
What bugs me the most is, why would NASA not have an emergency suit next to EVERY airlock in case of emergencies? It seems outside of their normal safety margin, something they discussed in a couple episodes. I would have to agree that they definitely shopped at 'convenient plot device'-mart.
Ending made me sad, which it was supposed to do, as well as highlight the dangers in space. Overall love the show, excited for the next season, which I hope focuses more on tech and less on relationships...
Budget cuts....
I don't think it's an emergency airlock. It's just the airlock from the original module. Probably isn't in use in any capacity.
Plus it would take a good while to put on an EVA suit anyways. Not really helpful in a rapid depressurization event.
Hooo boy does Danny Stevens have bad news for you.
@@ebmusicman84 Worst character in the show.
I know this post is old but I just finished this episode and I can't help but wonder why didn't they just depressurize their room, head to the room with the dead marines, snatch them, go back and repressurize. Would probably take less than 15 seconds. Yes those suits had holes in them but just cover those up with tape, it would be infinitely better than covering your entire body and having no oxygen.
Absolutely shopped at plotmart.
How the hell this show went under my radar until just now is beyond me. I'm gonna start watching it tomorrow.
ikr the show is right up my alley but i only found out about the show when they already halfway through season 2
Because the first half of the first season is pretty awful. Even when it eventually starts to pick up at best its a C+ show towards the end.
@@JFdowsley yeah I loved the show! It was awesome. Can’t wait for season 3
@@pyromcr How does it compare to the expanse?
It's one of the greatest shows of all time and yet it's hardly advertised or talked about. Apple needs to make it available on other platforms.
Woman to Macgyver: Are you one of those guys who can build a missle out of a paper clip?
Macgyver: Why? You got one?
Excuse me Mr. President how do you know what a missile is or who Macgyver is? And are you telling me that John Wilkes Booth shot you with a paper clip gun?
@@gamertron0882 I got bit.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 by the tape? Or by Scott? Scott is known to bite
"A paperclip, or a missile?"
"Missile. My paperwork is a mess."
LOL
Even more LOL, we actually built a demonstration prototype satellite thruster called the McGyver.
And yes, there is a couple paper clips!
Really did build something right out of sci-fi, but doesn't matter, the independent testing facility won't give me the time of day.
In the show I don't even think they hooked up the face masks to an O2 tank. I think they just used it to protect their faces. That better explains why they only had 15s before loss of consciousness
Yup you are correct. They didn't have a supply of o2.
@@Ketothev If memory serves, wasn't that done partially because they wanted to avoid rupturing their lungs?
Yes, they were told to breath out before exiting the airlock, to prevent damaging their lungs. They did not have an oxygen supply.
Wouldn't have done anything anyways. I have a bunch of gas masks and SCBA's and actually own that exact mask as far as I can tell from the video. They use a pair of very thin rubber gaskets to control the air flow for intake and outflow to ensure that air only comes in through the filter and out through the output gasket. Even if the output wasn't designed to dump air out of the mask when there is a pressure differential the input gasket is thin enough it would likely fail with 1 atmosphere of pressure in the mask, on top of temperature stress to it.
So the inside of their mask was in vacuum as soon as the decompressed anyways.
@@mitchellhood8320 Yeah I was thinking that too, the gas mask is designed to let air out not keep it in.
That scene was heartbreaking and difficult to watch. At least for me.
I was crying when they showed their bodies in the airlock and the scenes after it. I rarely get emotional but this show is just amazing.
I guess this is going to be like GoT. Best not to get too attached to any of the characters.
It wasn’t just you :(
(Spoilers) Yep but I suppose at least it's a small consolation that they got to be back together in the end. Kind of beautiful how they start out as the dysfunctional couple and then end up dying together and in love while Ed and Karen seemed this perfect couple from the outside and then end up being the dysfunctional ones. What as show.
@@FYTJ Nah, Karen (hence the name...Karen)... is dysfunctional. Name one thing Ed did that was not true to his character or grounds for divorce? Her cheating didn't really make sense unless you want her character to be unlikable for the sake of drama imo
What I've been learning over the years from various analyses of fiction involving exposure to hard vacuum, is that we consistently overestimate how deadly it is.
its still deadly due to our medical science. even at a few seconds the damage done would kill or severely cripple the person. even the more realistic sci fi depications mention you wouldn't want to be deliberately exposed to vacuum unless it was a dire emergency that death would 100% result if you didn't. it would be like jumping out of a the penthouse of a skyscraper versus being burned to death.
@@toomanyaccounts This comment precisely demonstrates the lack of understanding I'm talking about, thank you. It's equivalent to how you can tell people over and over that there's no sound in space but they'll still add sound effects to sci fi movies anyway. And characters will instafreeze or implode or whatever silly thing they think happens when exposed to vacuum.
@@z-beeblebrox well some of those sci fi depictions do mention that the sounds being heard are the computer adding them in so the crew wouldn't get freaked out by ships on the viewscreens exploding without sound or the ship weapons that fire without noise.
I remember one rpg sourcebook saying that while laser weapons didn't have sound the manufacturers would add a sound making module with customizable sounds because customers found it disconcerting that the weapons weren't making a noise when fired.
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@@z-beeblebrox How would you know if there's no sound in space? You haven't gone to space with your ears out in space. When objects hit spacecraft with microphones, you can hear the object hit the outside. If there's a super nova, you think an explosion would have no sound? LOL
@@hegeliandetective1034 It's not a property of "space" it's a property of a vacuum: sound is nothing but how we sense vibrations through a fluid medium. 99% of the time, that medium is Earth's atmosphere, but any medium works. Like eg the metal vibrations on the side of a space ship rippling through the air inside said space ship, or whales singing in the ocean. But all you need to do to prove this fact is create a simple vacuum, go inside it, and you too can experience things not making any sounds. Because obviously - if there's no molecules to vibrate your eardrums, you won't hear anything. It's the sound equivalent of turning off the lights.
9:56 "The great thing about tape though is... if it is not strong enough, you can just add multiple layers" - a words to live by.
"If duct tape doesn't work, you're not using enough of it"
Just like a onion, the green god was right....
And you need many layers -> radiation is the bigger problem than vacuum.
"the human body is actually mostly there to support this brain up here"
Gonads: You really think so? That's precious.
You can survive without your gonads.
You can't survive without your brain. (insert political joke here)
Either way the next generation is screwed.
@@trulyinfamous Actualy the joke is that it's all to pass on your genetic information to the next generation. On a side note you don't actualy have to have kids youdelf to be successful in this way. Since your siblings also share your genetic information helping them pass it on also counts.
@@TheAkashicTraveller my bad
Explains why people make bad decisions when gonads are involved. All that oxygen deprivation...
@@phoephoe795 only sustainably for one generation, though.
This was great. MAN that last episode is arguably up there with some of the greats. The duct tape scene was fantastic emotionally, visually and spawns convos like this vid.
Thank you for that video. That was one hell of a hard scene to watch because I love those two characters but it did make me wonder if it was even close to being doable. So I was glad that you made a video on it.
Someone has probably said it already but grey tape was crucial in the Apollo 13 “Square peg, round hole” fix, arguably the most historic grey tape fix in orbit.
Not orbit; cis-lunar space.
Let's not forget that Ductape saved Matt Damon on Mars
I read a scifi novel where humans met an alien race while fighting another race and after the fight was over the two fleets were making repairs and treating wounded while trying to figure out communication and trying to aid one another.
In the end peaceful relations were established when an alien saw a human doctor using duct tape as an emergency suture for a wounded man. A couple cases were traded for advanced alien tech and the races became fast friends.
You say that like it's a good thing. ;-)
@@DrewLSsix do you remember the name of that novel or the author?
@@contar549 It's in one of the later books of the lost fleet series by Jack Campbell.
@@DrewLSsix I need to know the name of this series.
That scene was so freaking amazing. No spoilers but I was on the edge of my seat the entire time
I’d just wear what the camera crew had, they seemed to of stayed out longer 😉😊
Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
Beat me to it... was just going to post that. 😉
I can't believe that I just saw this in 2021
Happy May 4th!
May the Forth be With You
May the Forth be With You
“Ok thank god we got back to the ship alive!”
“Yes, yes. Let’s take the tape off now!”
“Wai-“
Ow...
Haven't watched the show, but I would assume that they applied the tape on top of their clothing. If they had to apply it on bare skin, they can also apply the first layer sticky-side-up - they need multiple layers anyway, right? Some hairs might still get caught, but not nearly as many.
@@namewarvergeben maybe..who knows...
the tape of now? what does that mean? I keep re-reading this sentence and it makes no sense to me.
@@desmond-hawkins sorry, typo. I meant off 😃
I'm really glad they didn't make that scene any longer! It was tense enough as it was! I'm usually pretty restrained, but I was yelling at the TV for them to hurry.
My take away from this: you're always tens of seconds away from death.
honestly this scene shook me so much, especially when blood started spurting out of the cracks
A very emotional scene for sure
Yeah who cares if it’s realistic or not, it was the most heartbreaking and beautiful scene I’ve ever seen in a show
Yeah, the skin getting burnt, the blood out of the eyes, the eerie look of duct tape ill human. I was like...is this the same show? This is really good stuff. Not that the show was bad, but I keep saying those last 2 episodes were next level.
they die?
Next time they go out to the moon make them wear duct tape suits and save money
That scene when they find out what happen after they got back in was rough.
Great video! That scene was legitimately heartwrenching, but I was curious about the science.
Also, had to smile seeing the Profundity Mon Cal cruiser on your shelf. If it's the Fantasy Flight mini, I was the game designer on it when I worked there. 😆
I cried myself out on that scene. Felt so real and with so many emotions going.
Scott: “Minor spoilers from For All Mankind”
Me: dont do it
Scott: I won’t tell you who wears the suits tho
Me: thank goodnesses
Scott: *shows their faces*
Me: damn
If I were you I would’ve clicked off the video as soon as he said For All Mankind bro
Yeah at about half the video I said to myself scew you Scott and your spoilers and watched the last two episodes missing. Darn, that finale was awesome. And now back to Scott and fact checking :D
@@SpiderGuy38 yeah probably...
So you caught all that other stuff but you missed the part where he said "if you really care about such things you should go watch the show now"?
It's fine, nothing weird happens.
As a squba diver i love that a lot of the problems with pressure differences are the same as if you are going to space. The number one rule when scuba diving is never hold your breath especialy when ascending or decompressing
Well to be fair so long as you are just sitting at a constant depth there's nothing wrong with extracting as much O2 from your air as possible by slowing your breathing.
@@SimplySketchyGT Slow your breathing = fine, holding breath = very bad habit
i dont get that. why is that?
@@S1baar Rapid decreases in pressure while diving can cause decompression sickness. The extra nitrogen that is dissolved into your blood will separate creating air bubbles in your tissue and blood vessels. These bubbles can block blood flow and additionally cause a condition called the "bends" where by the severe agony of bone and joint pain causes you to double over.
To put it simply, your body becomes a carbonated drink that just got opened, it's all bubbly and stuff.
@@S1baar Ezekiel Jones isn't wrong, but he didn't answer your question: the reason you never hold your breath is because if you have to swim to the surface in an emergency, the air in your lungs will expand as the outside pressure on your body decreases. This will cause your lungs to inflate and will damage the lung tissue. This is called lung expansion injury, and is a whole other thing that can painfully kill you besides the bends. SCUBA diving is lots of fun, but you really need to get good training.
This video is exactly what I expected and wanted it to be. Thank you.
Fun fact, (as a painter who had stretched many canvases from duck cloth, I'll never get tired of this,) "duct" tape comes from the Dutch word "doek" which simply means canvas or cloth, and I believe was originally used as strips of cloth to repair sails, without ant adhesive backing. Anyway, "doek" is commonly anglicised as "duck," so it's actually more accurate to just call the stuff, "duck tape," since it's no better for use on ducts than it would be on actual ducks.
Also gaffers tape is just infinitely better and should always be used in preference when available, (and in most cases is actually adhesive backed cloth, meaning it would be most accurate to call it doek tape instead, but this is English and we don't use words for their etymological consistency around here.)
In the us it is used for duct work sometimes and the oldest brand is called duck tape
@@jacksonledford6874 You should not use "duct tape" for ducting work; nearly all brands of commonly sold "duct tape" will fail at properly sealing ducts. The actual kinds of ducting tape used are typically aluminum foil tape.
@@RamadaArtist yeah it's not used to seal ducts just everything else. It came from the history of attaching adhesive to sheets of duck cloth, then called duck tape then duct tape then both interchangeably
Another possible origin is that Duck Tape was originally made using duck feathers as part of the backing, as they have the right size, flexibility, and backing.
@@DanStaal I thought it was called Duck Tape because it was intended to strap multiple ducks together. This... this could explain a few things... excuse me... I have some... things... to... un-tape?
You and Adam Savage both posted a video on duct tape within 40 minutes of each other. And both mention how bad it is for ducts almost immediately upon starting to talk about it. Love it
It’s been Duct Tape’s reputation for as long as I can remember. The first time I was introduced to it, my dad said the same thing some 30-odd years ago and he’s not scientifically or mechanically inclined so it’s very general knowledge.
Wondered if someone would already have mentioned the Tested "why i hate duct tape" video and here it is :). Scott had commented on one of Adam's video's recently iirc.
Now a question is: Would actual duct tape made of a foil material marketed for use on ducts be any better?
@@MrNeptunebob I believe according to Adam Savage and the video posted earlier, yes it is much better. 😄
The duct tape I use in air conditioning work (flex duct) is very similar to duck tape, just a better quality. 20 years later it will still keep a duct sealed, where duck tape is shriveled up and worthless@@MrNeptunebob
This plot-point was so fastinatingly haunting, I am uncomfortable even remembering it. The fact that they realistically could have survived that makes it even worse somehow.
Thanks for that, I guess.
The one guy who was exposed to vacuum for 30 seconds had very little side effects. One trope in hard science fiction is having to dash across the moon without a suit.
@@bindingcurve That wasn't next to the highly reflective surface of the moon, making it 200 degrees C.
@@karadan100 That temperature would drop off substantially at just a short distance above the surface in a vacuum.
I really don't get why they didn't try to use the suit of the dead astronaut, just lying in front of the door... It's surely a lot easier to fix small hole instead of creating a whole suit
@@karadan100 Apollo used duct tape on the rovers without issues. There is no air to conduct the heat. Their shoes would have been fine for a while.
Its rare that we see a solution that work in real world in a show but that in the show it works less optimally than it will do in real life. Usually its the other way around lol.
there's just something rather concise elegant alluring and charming about those old-fashioned graphs like in 3:40, so much information yet so intuitively presented
As far as I could tell the masks in the show were just to protect their faces, they breathed out as much air as they could and held their breath. The mask wasn't pressurised.
That was also my impression
yeah, the 15 seconds was because they had to breathe out so that the air in their lungs wouldn't overexpand and destroy them once they stepped into the vaccum. That was what I understood at least from the show
Same
Yeah, when Molly instructs Gordo, she explicitly tells him to breathe out all the air or his lungs will burst. So, no fresh air supply.
That was for the plot. Any fire masks would have an oxygen bottle. You are NOT going to live if the writers want you dead.
"Fly safe", he tells me after teaching me how to make a duct tape space suit, and previously a fire extinguisher manuvering unit,...
Lol!!
Fly safe could be a call to not to get out of whatever you're flying.
when did he do the last thing
for all mankind is a really good show, i was very weary after the first 2 or 3 eps but then it really kicked off and i thoroughly enjoyed the rest
Great video as always. I happen to teach aeromedical training to pilots and aircrew and I could probably just play part of this video sit back and enjoy a cup of tea and my students would still get the bulk of the info they need. Not sure how I missed this when it came out.
Just some bonus info Pre-breathing O2 does more then just add some extra oxygen in the tissues. If they were breathing a nitrogen oxygen mix before the exposure then there would be a real risk of decompression sickness (DCS) occurring as the nitrogen bubbles out of their blood like co2 does when opening a can of soda. If you switch to 100% oxygen for a couple of hours before hand you can off gas the majority of the nitrogen dissolved into the blood and minimize the effect of the DCS.
I like to think that I'm addition to getting the Medal of Honor as a civilian, Tracy was given the title of Honorary Marine for consistently helping the Moon Marines on their missions.
I do believe she also got the Presidential Medal of Freedom; there is also a Space Medal of Honor which carries the same weight as the military version and is awarded to astronauts. Pretty cool. Their scene made me so uncomfortable to think about how painful and excruciating it must have been, but they powered through because so many other people's lives were on the line.
"Generic Plot Device Corporation" is my new favorite thing.
I wonder if it's the real life version of ACME.
(A Company that Makes Everything.) XD
They probably have a tag line of "If you need something, we have it."
I literally watched this video until he said you should watch it first.
Watched both seasons in 6 days and then resumed watching the video
Scott, you are just the best. Thanks for this video. It brightened my day.
As someone who's helped make and had made on them duct tape suits for costume sizing I can confirm some of this. One to two rolls per layer is about right depending on the size of the roll. And they can absolutely create enough pressure, even accidentally, to completely stop your ability to breathe causing people to pass out. I absolutely believe this that they could create enough pressure to act like a pressure suit
your people just got a shout-out in scotts twitter, about knowing how much duct tape it takes.
Hehe fursuit maker
Cousing people to WHAT?
how do you know this?
@@DrWhom People use tape to measure the size of a person for cosplays/fursuits
I once read somewhere about an oopsie with a spacesuit in the big vacuum chamber at JSC. The guy lived, everything was fine, but I remember one detail of his description of events -- apparently having the saliva on your tongue boil is a very strange feeling, because that's when he realized the scale of the malfunction.
Your videos are always very informative and entertaining.
That was a great scene, and a very moving moment in the series.
Generic Plot Device Corp
Delivering you the exact specifications to move your story forward
I'm pretty sure they're a subsidiary of Acme.
The props face masks are north 5400 respirator with the filter cartridges removed fyi
Hi Scott! The masks that appear in the series are not for oxygen, but for face protection. It is mentioned in the series that all the oxygen in the lungs must expire before they can come out.
Great info, was wondering about this after seeing the particular episode.
Scott, you're just amazing. Keep it up. You bring the hard core science and math that the other don't, and it never gets dull.
Bye Bob 😭
My poor Gordo and Tracy went out like Champs. A sad yet great end to great characters and character arcs.
Poor gordo was my favourite character, of the show, i was so sad when i saw they both died
Bye bob
That scene had me a little teary.
@@dalemsilas8425 yeah, me too. They will be always remembered as the true heroes of the show!
Bye bob:(
It shows my age that I'm wondering about the 2001 scenario ....
'Open the pod bay door, Hal'.
Same here. Not all vacuum suckers buy it.
I think Scott actually talked about that scene in the past. If I remember correctly while he wouldn't have felt perfectly healthy. He wasn't in the vacuum long enough for it to be definitely fatal. The only issue was he breathes in before going out, when the correct response would be to breathe out.
@@Robb1977 That's right - he did ... must have been a while ago though ... I'll see if I can find it !
@@emsleywyatt3400 Indeed. For example, on a Thursday at a probability of two to the power of 276,709 to one against.
In 2001 Dave pulls the recompression lever in 8 s and recompression starts/completed in about 14 s. So it seems plausible that Bowman could have survived as shown.
Love it! Great video thanks for sharing!
Turns out Gordo's mustache accounted for 35% of his suit's structural integrity.
All my questions have been answered...
Ferb, I know what we are going to do today!
I was about to reply as Pinky, and realized I suddenly want a Phineas and Pinky episode.
hold up, wait a minute
I love the new intro with the Kerbal =)
me too
Thanks!
the fact that the body knows how to recover from a vacuum is astonishing
I love for all mankind. Thank you for recommending it. Love your channel too.
I love how Scott explained how pressure work and why they are needed before answering the question
Just imagine you survive and you need to pull all the tape off your skin. Woohoo!!
Ow
Oh, I get it no, duck tape mittens are not gonna make it easy.
Better than dead 💀
They were wearing cloth next to their skin with the duct tape wrapped over it - so probably not a problem other than in areas where the cloth didn't reach...around the neck, for example.
My comment exactly lol
One of your best Scott !
That was a cool scene, but the one that really had me wondering was the episode with the solar storm. Would any amount of radiation cause that sort of effect on the regolith?
I think that effect was just to create some drama
@@axelvdp1 actually it's not unrealistic, NASA (the real one) has even article about it, if you want to look it up, search for "NASA Study finds solar storms could spark soils at moon poles". But basically for that scene the regolith on the moon is electrically charged which interracts with the solar particles and radiation. The only unrealistic thing about the scene is that in reality if that severe solar storm as in the show hits the regolith it will interract so much that will be like actual dust storm abd wont be able to see anything, they tonned it down for the show because they thought if they recreated it this way even more people would've thought its pure fiction, even tho it wouldn't.
@@toreadoress Amazing. thanks for the heads up
This scene was unsettling, and excellent. I'd totally look past the unrealism of it, and it's even better knowing it's plausible.
@@toreadoress I know a thing or two about unshielded microwave ovens and that many RADs would cook your corneas, blinding you almost instantly.
I was a hysterical mess during that entire scene. I knew they weren't going to make it yet held out hope when they made it back to the module. I needed a drink afterwards.
Same, was crying all over myself and was excited until they found Tracy and gordo in the airlock
@@Eversoncars That was such a mean betrayal of my expectations. Usually if a show says "to survive the characters have to do xy" and they manage to do that the characters survive. I really liked how the show reminded us there that space isn't fair. And yes, I also had to pur myself a drink afterwards.
glad to see somebody is not too afraid to answer the real questions
Are you related to Sigismund?
Imagine being a network manager or executive producer for this show.
You come to visit the set to see how filming is going and how the budget is being spent. You expect to see some amazing set pieces, cool astronaut costumes, maybe catch a space gunfight scene being filmed. But then you see two of the actors wearing gas masks, covered head to toe in duct tape, running across a green-screened sandbox. 😅
Maaaan that's a freaking awesome show, hyped for season 3
I once gifted a family of truckers a bunch of duct tape and zipties as birthday day gift. Everybody laughed. Many months later we meet again and they said - it literally saved them on the road.
Duct tape and zip ties have helped me limp a truck on in to civilization more than once. Good stuff!
I will have to verify all this with "Red Green"
"Times of useful consciousness" should be posted in every frat house.
This is a question I needed answered.
Ahh gordo, my homie kept it real on the streets
Are you Colombian?
@@hupekyser no, Brazilian
@@k-osmonaut8807 Sopa do maccaco, manito
@@raico6890 bruh, outro br
You should do more videos on for all mankind (Pathfinder shuttle, the moon base, etc...)
and how come the rifles have so little recoil because in real life an ak-47's recoil on lunar gravity would make you lift off the ground. bullets in space should be rocket bullets
@@TeddyKrimsony nope, your mass is the same. The recoil on a AK is not that much. But a AR is a better weapon on the moon as the piston is inside the bolt and would blow any regolith out of the action. That moon dusk will likely jam any semiautomatic weapon. And I would be more terrified by the rocket exhaust with a Gyrojet. In addition, they are useless in CQB as they will need time to get up to high velocity
The show was mostly nonsense from a science viewpoint in the 2nd season.
Pathfinder's NERVA engine apparently uses magic pixie dust, because the writers decided liquid hydrogen tanks are lame.
Their Moonbase that you don't want a nuclear meltdown in case it renders the surface radioactive.... as the writers forgot earlier in the same season they used the radioactive nature of space as a plot point..,
We can go on, like how their is no communication on the "dark"(and the writers think dark and far side of the moon are the same thing) side of the moon, because apparently there was enough in the budget to make a moon base but not put a few comm sats in Lunar orbit.
@@TheOwenMajor and the lack of bottles on the masks. The lack of emergency suits in the locks. Them not replacing the landers. The marines should have been Seals and way better trained. Kind of goes on and on. But still better than a lot of other stuff
The subject of this video was just too good not to click on. Thank you!!
"Generic Plot Device Corp".. hahahah... That one got me Scott. Well done Sir, well done.
@10:27, I get the feeling that someone tried to argue with Scott about how much duct tape would be needed; so Scott did the math, proved them wrong, then flipped them off. :)
I assumed one would need multiple rolls of tape, so I asked about it on twitter. Didn't expect this and it kinda ruined my day.
The bird is the word.
Yeah, seemed personal and not very gracefully done.
Some people tend to use the middle finger for things that usually are done with the index finger, probably wasn't intentional
@@lumiapowered8463 Yes. A friend of mine who worked in a grocery store, when asked by customers, "Where do I find product such-and-such?" would answer by pointing to the correct aisle with her middle finger, saying "over in aisle three." It was unintentional.
That was a fun sequence, but we need to talk about something else from the show: Moon Blockade.
I just... there's no way, right? How could a single Buran blockade the moon, when it seems like even if they arranged their orbit to encounter Sea Dragon and Pathfinder on LOI, all you have to do is like burn a few m/s in any direction a few hours before your LOI burn and Buran will be encountering only empty space. Would it not be the easiest thing in the world to play orbital keep away?
Love this. I INSTANTLY googled this after watching that scene. And then I cried.
Thanks for this documentary . I searched this after the last episode
For All Mankind is such an underrated show. One of my favorites at this point. It might be worth remembering that they were holding their breath during this sequence; the masks weren't oxygen masks.
They needed to die. They are on a SPACE station, any masks would have a O2 bottle attached. I checked and ISS has full face masks with bottles.
for the most part the show seems to *HAVE* to comply *WAY TOO MUCH* with 2021 gender agenda roles that it starts to be painful.
The only redemption for the show is the Gordo and Tracey storyline.
Gordo's descent into alcoholism, and getting that "Phoenix Metaphor" when he returned to space, is something A HUGE MAJORITY of people can relate.
As well as the tumultuous relationships struggles between Gordo and Tracy is such a great common ground with majority of the viewers because who haven't gone through a difficult/challenging heterosexual relationship in real life?
IMHO
Yes, it was just sad Tracey and Gordo got killed off.
@@bindingcurve Unfortunately, some writers are allowed to ignore common sense if it advances the plot...
Close, they weren't holding their breath but emptying their lungs due to the pressure tearing their lungs apart.
The mask was probably to protect their eyes.
@@h.cedric8157 “gender agenda roles”? What a mouthful. It’s interesting how I can watch the show and find it a fascinating look at an alternative timeline and see some of the real issues that people faced be they make, female, black, white, gay or straight, skinny or fat, insecure, etc. as well as create some different possible outcomes for various minorities and gender roles... but you boil it all down to some weird lens you look at the world through that you don’t like?
2:46 pressure in psi, depth and altitude in feet, but barometric pressure in mmHg. I love you imperial folks!
During his Lego Shuttle assembly livestream, didn't he make fun of the kit for not using consistent units? Edit: Why, yes, yes he did, within the first 10 minutes in fact. Glass houses...
I like to call them "Retardenheiters".
Apollo did the flying in imperial but the science in metric. When you listen to EVA audio it's all meters.
@@5Andysalive Аpollo did the flying in metric, mate, calculation and telemetry and all. It was only _translated_ to backwards and _displayed_ so for the crew and the crew only because throughout the whole run the crew was mostly Navy pilots who never touched a metric thing in their life. Also, it's not imperial, it's US Customary. Please learn the difference.
@@Anvilshock So, I looked up the difference between US customary and Imperial. I didn't know that was a thing, so I learnt something :).
Brilliant. Informative. Funny. As usual.
The only reason I haven't watched "For All Mankind" Season 2 is that the first season was so gut wrenching to watch.
How so?
"You can drive a car with your feet if you want to. That don't make it a good idea." Chris Rock
but wait scott, when they used it in apollo 13, they were essentially taping up an airduct for the co2 scrubbing canisters, in that application it was duct tape
So happy I watched season 2 before watching this!
very informatice graphs. always wondered about scuba diving oxygen limits and the like.