Anyone else simply despise Derek F in the last few episodes. He treated Azah like his sidekick and continually beraded her, saying she was crazy to think that she did anything for herself during the game. Big Delusional thought that he carried Azah to final 3 and made Azah feel terrible during her last week there, and Big D didn’t care. He’s a jerk and did nothing gamechanging during the game.
I thought it was really annoying how the show kept editing him like he was some kind of hero. I was so annoyed that he was given hundreds of BB bucks just to blow off the Coin of Destiny comp, and I would have been so irritated if he somehow won AFP. Derek F just gave me Raven vibes after a while.
Will always be disappointed in Xavier for not having the respect to take Azah to the final 2. She was a sweetheart and deserved the second place money way more than DF. Xavier would've won regardless.
My problem with the season was that such a great cast was wasted with predictable gameplay and people not playing for themselves. Tiffany/Hannah for example got rid of their closest allies (Claire/DX) for the cookout alliance and then they ended up being the first two cookouts to go. I hope for next season to have unpredictable and cutthroat gameplay and individually-driven moves instead of big alliances coasting again.
I hope next season is like big brother 20. And to be honest I wouldn’t be mad if next season had a bit more drama like a big brother 19 wouldn’t be complaining.
Probably an unpopular opinion: Had Tiffany played this season for herself and not "for the greater good", then this could have been a very amazing season. She could have also taken the win.
not uncommon at all, that's literally been the mainstream opinion of almost all the fans. The real unpopular opinion is that TIffany would've still lost even if there was no cookout.
@@mgm8075 I feel for Tiffany and the second HOH she won could have been the perfect time to put either X or Kyland. Then, she could have had a much clearer path to the end. We probably would have seen Derek F. go at Final 4 or 5 unless Tiffany cut Hannah.
@@UnbreakableBloke That's why I credit X for his social game. Whether he knew it or not, going to every single cookout member and whining about how Tiffany was selfish was a smart play that gave him the perception as the most trustworthy person in the alliance,. His social credit carried him to the finals
exactly, idk why people think they would've just let TIffany steam roll to the end. Eventually DX, Claire, Hannah, Christian, Alyssa, Ky or X would've caught on to her
The fact that we got two unanimous winners back to back and both seasons were kind of boring to watch and easily predictable really speaks volumes about how the game is played now. When Dan won it was amazing with a great season behind it. The past two seasons have felt like two movies with the same script but different actors. Sure the people are different but you know what is going to happen from the start.
It's all rigged! Every season they already have the winner. Watch! Every comp is a set up! This season was the worst! A winner should be a winner because they earned it. Nothing should be about skill, not skin! This season makes me sad! Probably won't be watching any more.
@@gloria.meyitt Well I am mad. But for only the reason of how it has been played. And it is very possible to rig. Look back at Cody's season. From the first game, they had him as the winner. The timed games. No one knows what the real time are. You're telling me that there is absolutely no way that they can give someone an advantage? This season I was hoping Tiffany would win. Why did people let Derek F. Get away with saying the plan to have 6 POC's come together and form the cookout? Tiffany just sat there and said nothing. Why?
@@es1776 you think production wanted Britini and Derek X to leave the week they got the most BB Bucks? There's definitely some funny stuff going on sometimes but everything isn't a huge conspiracy
@@es1776 omg just cuz tiff didnt win doesnt mean its rigged. Why would bb rig for Xavier to win. He worked his way to the top. And people took big d to the end because he is easy to beat. You are really over thinking it for no reason
Mid-tier for sure. One of the most likeable casts of all time and masterful strategy, but the season was very predictable with next to zero fights/drama
Here's a twist idea: HOH goes as normal, two people are nominated. However, there's a randomly selected secret HOH that nominates two other people. The acting HOH has to pick one of their original nominees, but also one of the secret HOH's nominees. This wouldn't happen every week. This would probably not do much, but it has the potential to break a lot of friendships and create good TV drama.
That sounds like battle of the block but actually having the possibility of being exciting. The problem with secret HOH's is that everyone knows who it is anyway.
@@michaelmadrid2682 That's why it's not decided by competition, but randomly, so that there's a chance somebody who can't win a competition gets power.
I'm okay with big alliances succeeding as long as the players in the alliance are doing what is best for their game. The Cookout alliance only prevented people from playing the game normally which just made everything pointless. This season was like that one reward challenge from Survivor: San Juan del Sur where Jeff stopped it early because all of the remaining players didn't care who won, and were openly talking about who they were going to give the reward to. At that point it didn't matter how the rest of the challenge played out because the result would be the same either way.
This was the very first season I didn't listen to feed updates or do any online interaction with the show. It was too predictable & boring. No one had a killer instinct. Even Azah said she didn't care if she won & Claire gave up for the "cause". I want more aggressive players & not these "feel good" box checkers.
This season should sit comfortably next to bb12 in rankings. Very likeable cast with very boring gameplay. Hopefully cbs continues making a diverse cast with enjoyable people, but also changes the game in more effective ways then whatever "twists" they've got going on right now.
The fact that the cookout were able to make history is pretty damn impressive, but that doesn't take away from the fact that this was another very boring and predictable season of Big Brother. Like BB22, I feel like I knew exactly what was going to happen each week, with a big groupthink alliance dominating the whole game. It's just not very entertaining to watch in my opinion. 3/10. Not as bad as BB22 or BB19, but still very meh.
A few changes they could make to shake up the game, 1. Change almost all the competitions, only leaving 2-3 classics. 2. Don’t reveal the vote count on eviction night. Just state the name of the houseguest evicted. That way “voting with the house” can’t be a strategy. 3. Once pre-jury and once post-jury have all the houseguests compete in HOH anonymously. Nobody knows who it is. 4. Do a double eviction taking it from 5 to 3 houseguests. (Those weeks are HORRIBLE to watch and drag the game) 4. Maybe even cut a week/two weeks out of the game totally. Everyone gets end of season exhaustion and even the CBS schedule gets squeezed, causing weird rescheduled episodes the last few weeks.
Ha!! I get sick of them yelling at me in a scripted fashion in the diary room, too! Especially when the outcome for weeks in a row is so obvious. Couldn’t have put it better myself
My ultimate review is this is a very low tier season. It was good strategy that wasn't fun to watch - every week past week 1 was extremely predictable and the big alliance never struggled or had their power questioned. While they didn't get every HOH their will was done every week, there was no counter-alliance gaining power, and it ended with a number of boring people making it to the end because people weren't playing individual games. Congrats to the cookout on achieving their mission. May future seasons be more exciting.
Yup... I punched out halfway . glad they pulled it off, but it was boring I mean i still watched.. but it was obvious the Cookout would remain hidden in plain sight and was inevitable. seemed no one wanted the cookout to fail even everyone outside of the cookout.
All I wanted was a season that was better than 22/All Stars 2. For "The most/second racist season" , "the Cookout are criminals," "there's gonna be a race war....," and yet, I got what I wanted. So, let's talk about the cast, drama, the "controversial" dominate alliance, and the future. *The Cast* The saving grace of the season. The new BB12 and BB16. Telegenic, likeable, had personality, and heck, were diverse in thought/appearance and personality without being dicks to one another. Heck, props to all the women for winning at least one comp this season. That's a first. Travis: doing nothing wrong and falling to a domino of chaos and giving into the first boot clothes stripping, Frenchie: having one of the most memorably worst HoH's and predicting the season, Brent: showing a semblance of strategic potential only to get blindsided and targeted to his massive ego Whitney: having the balls to wear that kind of sports bra in public without a damn in the world and supporting her fellow women even after she was eliminated and calling out Derek F and Kyland's behavior, Christian: being a top contender and the anti-Jack jock only targeted because of his athletic prowess. Britini: emotional: yes: yet had heart, drive, and called Kyland a b**** while being a energetic bundle of joy in and out of the house, Derek X: being the second favorite houseguest, growing in potential regardless of naivety. Sarah Beth: the most adorable anti-villain, essentially the antithesis of Nicole A in BB21 and 22 who's nursery rhymes won't be forgotten, Claire: the superfan who had the emotional maturity to handle her eviction with grace and broke the fourth wall with just how much, Alyssa: what we all wanted from Analyse without any of the slut shaming. Then the Cookout members themselves: the biggest "take that producers for not having better casting." Tiffany: overrated to some, but the next Matt Hoffman: the head of the master plan with a more evolved strategy, and also suffered the same fate while being a fun character in her own right. Hannah: the second in command, the sweet strategic second in command, heartbreaking elimination. Kyland: a condescending jerk, easily a top player, manipulator, who could've won the game had it not been for his massive ego, pride and lack of self awareness. Azah: too passive, almost would've became a top 2, probably would've ended up a bottom tier winner but hey: she made it through her social bonds. "Cooked, cleaned and slept their way to final 4" Derek F: delusional at times, misogynistic, his laughs and love for momma being his only saving grace and entertaining in all the right and wrong ways to get to the end. And Xavier: the dry witted, and all rounder player who took the opportunities that fell into his lap, planning small moves that netted him the move. A decent winner for a decent winner. *The drama* It wasn't explosive till Kyland's boot...memory but also messed up to watch. But it was emotional. Frenchie causing chaos that the other players picked up the pieces, Brent's behavior getting him the boot, the Christian blindside, Kyland pissing off all his alliance members to keep SB in and target Britini to Azah's ire, Hannah, Tiffany, Azah & Big D, and Xavier breaking down from having to vote out their more closer allies in the game, TIffany getting the misogynist behavior in her alliance for saving Claire only for Alyssa to win the veto and forcing her to vote out her closest ally, Hannah begging not to go while all but Xavier mocked her, would Derek F cut Azah or Kyland in the end, Azah almost making a 700,000 mistake. *The Cookout themselves* Having the balls to make Allison Grodner fuming from losing her favorites at the get go takes guts. And props to them: BB Facebook and some of BB Reddit rants isn’t coming true. They took the metagame of modern Big Brother and proved when the deck is equal, they’ll thrive. Instead of struggling to survive alone. And before BB12, this wasn’t a problem. So why would they “break the game” despite Derrick L and arguably the Brigade doing the same first? Danielle and Kevin almost won their seasons, Candice and Howard did not deserve to be in a house that toxic with members claiming they had no merit to being there, Amber shouldn't have had to deal with Caleb, Dominique being treated as a social pariah (heck I'd throw Bridgette for how cliquey that cast was dealing with her), Kemi having her bathing suit stolen while she was asleep by Analyse and Christie, Jack being an insensitive douche to Kemi/Ovi/David while the Six Shooters alliance targeted their friends and allies: Kat, Jessica, Nicole. And the Committee…well most of them weren’t as bad in their behavior: but Memphis targeting David despite hating how the Jack’s treated his houseguests, Nicole F (a game move nonetheless though still messed up) making Davonne and Devin fight over a lie she caused and everyone arguing which of them were in the right, Christmas making a smart game move only to be lacking self awareness and claiming she would get shot for that when she’s a convicted felon…again, unnecessary. Contrary to popular belief, black people can make it far in Big Brother without having to talk or deal with race. For some seasons, it was just nearly impossible because their houseguests didn't allow them. Call them racist: yell from the top of the hills for talking about race…despite them never showing antagonism to anyone else while also being a minority in the house. But they came to play the game, and for a dominant alliance, they were enjoyable to watch as people....most of the time, and they played hard. If that's racism to some people, then you're entitled to that opinion despite the evidence to the contrary. And no, Sarah Beth isn’t racist either for trying to Hannah out. That was judged on her as a game player. They didn't win as many comps as the Brigade but used an evolved version of their strategy, they considered turning on each other like the Scamper Squad several times but held firmer to get everyone to the end, they weren't toxic like Paul's cult even though the men in Kyland and Derek F need huge self-awareness on ego/misogyny/credit giving, they weren't dicks like the Six Shooters and Grateful nor alienated people with passive aggressive high school fakeness, and unlike the Committee, they didn't win 99% of comps…or played face to America while half the members mocked someone for having autism. And the first dominant alliance to not lose anyone till the end. Could it get boring. On a surface level, yes. But much like how people got through BB16 and 19 for how impressive Derrick played and to wonder if Paul's control would be a foregone conclusion, how they maneuvered through the game was fun to watch. They didn't treat people like dicks in the house like 19, and 4 out of the 6 members contributed more than just Derrick handing out orders and everyone just falling for him. And in the end, it led to a decent season. It was a season of good gameplay with a strong cast meets self destructive gameplay, emotions, and while it was a steamroll, it was a unique steamroll that hurt the players in the house on a game level, but made everyone who came out of it as decent people. It's a mid-tier season. People will disagree, yelling racism to the end of the hill. But in the end, this season gave us something to talk about, and I got want I wanted: something much more fun with BB22 with players not rolling over to die despite the odds. *So what happens next?* Well only 3 members of the cast are coming out as hateable, a lot of the cast are still friends with one another and there wasn't a race war in sight, most fans want members of this cast to come back for some Early Boots, Second Chance, or, Heroes vs Villains, heck even BB24. So what needs to be done for BB24? The Cookout did what they had to do, now the casting just needs to go even more all out with its cast: more superfans, recruits who are eager to learn and don't keep showing them BB16, get people who are alliance hunters, who want to cause telegetic chaos that doesn't push it too far. We need comps that force people to want to backstab one another, turn on each other, reward players with prizes and punishments: maybe affect the prize pool, more unique comps, twists that don't break the game that the dominant alliance can't exploit, more opportunities to make the players feel like people on the episodes, other comps that test the player's bonds and mental endurance, less comps for the athletic types to win, we've had 5 seasons in a row with beefy dudes and dudette winning, change it up. But that's my take. And I'm at peace. A decent season with good gameplay, a dominant alliance that didn’t suck the joy out it, and a top tier cast. Celebrity Big Brother 3 and Big Brother 24, here we come.
Season 23 was unfortunately one of my least favorite Big Brother viewing experiences, because there was this overwhelming sense of sadness watching the season slowly crawl to its inevitable conclusion. Seeing the six Cookout members not be able to play in the way they wanted or even compete for the win, and the other ten contestants barely having a chance because of an alliance and mission completely out of their control made me feel as if the game I have loved my whole life was gone. I want to see people be ruthless, cutthroat, and selfish to win, so a season full of house target after house target never intrigued me. Even the drama about what non-Cookout member would be eliminated next just felt manufactured, because clearly the mission was too strong for the meaningless drama to actually change the course of the season. Overall, this will go down as my least favorite season of the 22 regular seasons of Big Brother because the game was not allowed to be normally played due to the mission of the Cookout. I loved the cast, so I'm very disappointed with how this season turned out.
Kind of a weird perspective to have 0.o and to label this season as “not normal” even though the same formula of the big alliance steamrolling the whole season occurred. Only difference is this season the alliance actually accomplished what most alliances can’t, stay intact to battle it out.
" Seeing the six Cookout members not be able to play in the way they wanted or even compete for the win" You mean throwing competitions? That has been around for a long time, not just this season. Its a strategic move.
@@dustinbrite2422 I think what he means is that because the 'mission' of the cookout was to have a final 6 of all black people, there was no tension in the alliance actually turning on each other. Big D and Tif hated each other and would talk shit about each other constantly, but because they were the same race in a race based alliance, there was no chance in hell they would betray each other before final 6. Tiffany would talk to the camera constantly about the idea of betraying the cookout before final 6, and acknowledged that actually getting to final 6 with the cookout out would put her in a losing situation but still rode it out with the cookout "for the culture". They weren't playing as individuals, they were just playing to get any black winner.
Twist Idea: The winner (of something) gets to ask a device/producer "if ____ voted for _____" and get a yes or no answer, or something along those lines. It will expose social play and help underdogs being set up. Like a "voice of higher power" or something
You always give the best analysis and perspectives. I personally enjoyed this season as the strategy was really refreshing, I’m so used to watching 1-3 strategists a season and a bunch of coasters/shit gamers.
My review: One of the best pre-juries ever, one of the worst post-juries ever. As soon as the HoH was won we knew who was going home, unless that person won veto in which case we knew who the backup target was and they went home. The target was never flipped on the HoH, there was never insurrection within the majority. After the dust of Frenchie's first week settled it was one of the least entertaining seasons ever, although that is partially because of how tight the gameplay was, usually the best moves aren't the sexy "Dan's Funeral" moves that work one in a million times, it's formulating a plan and executing, so I can't knock people like X and Tiffany for that. With that said it's bottom half for me for sure, I probably have it in a category with BB12, BB13 and BB16, neither of which I'm particularly fond of. It's not as bad as 1, 9, 19, 21, and 22, but all the entreating people were gone way too early. Sorry but the endgame being Kyland's passive aggression, Derrick F's bad attitude, and Azah's blandness, I think what should be the best and most exciting part of the game turned into a game between Ky and X of whoever cut the other's throat wins. That's why I have it in the realm of seasons with seasons that were dominated by majority alliances that had varying level of exciting casts, but ultimately boiled down to one group of players far outclassing most of the rest (aside from 13 that is unrelated in this way, I just don't have any other group to put it in).
The cookout was by far the easiest and most efficient alliance I’ve seen in my time watching big brother and survivor. Good for them for playing smarter and not harder! They destroyed everything. I’m kind of interested/anxious to see the future ramifications of this dominant set up. I am only disappointed in how society justifies this season as diversity when Hispanic and Asian representation still seems to be dismal.
Although the cookout is a masterful alliance I'm worried about what it's legacy will be. As of right now people keep track of the ratio of guys to girls because of previous all guys/girls alliances. And so what this means is now people will intentionally keep track of the ratio of races in the house. We don't want to see a race war where people vote out the black people for fear of another cookout. I don't know if this will happen but it's something I'm worried about
I love almost all of this season, the cast was so fun to watch on the feeds and seeing the CO make it to the F6 was AMAZING! I can't wait to see DX and Tiffany come back to play again. Great vid Peridiam!
1) Having the HOH has run it course.... the good players have figured out that all you need to do is manipulate just one player each week to be safe as compared to Survivor (post merge) you have to manipulate as many as 9, 10, 11 people.... a much harder and interesting task. Get rid of the HOH, have a single immunity.... this should get rid of the team game concept. When 10 people are at risk of going home as compared to 2, this would make the sparks fly in the house 2) While they have change the cast, they did not change the personalities. We do not have real world people that people can relate to like in the early seasons. The early seasons were good at casing opposites. Loud vs quiet; religious vs non-religious; young vs older; ect ect ect. Now all you have is a bunch of people that are (or inspire to be) models, actors or IG influencers
I kind of like that idea. Sort of a modified version of how the nominations work on most international versions of BB, with the HGs nominating two people in the Diary Room. Here’s how it could be adapted for the more strategy-based format of BBUS: 🔘 HGs compete for immunity each week instead of HoH. This HG would be immune from nomination and eviction as well as any punishments (like slop), but perhaps as an added challenge is also not eligible to play for the Veto. 🔘 The other HGs nominate two HGs in secret in the Diary Room. HGs are not allowed to discuss who they are nominating before the nominations take place. 🔘 The two HGs with the most nominations go on the block. 🔘 The two nominees and four other players selected by random draw play for the Veto. 🔘 The Veto holder is not only safe from eviction and can take themselves off the block if nominated, they also *get to name the replacement nominee*. 🔘 The live vote and eviction proceeds as usual. 🔘 Also, I’d suggest getting rid of the F4 Veto entirely and end the Veto at the F5. Instead, have the person who wins immunity at the F4 select one HG to save, and then the other two compete for their spot in the F3. This is pretty much like the F4 firemaking challenge from Survivor. And although I don’t like it very much for Survivor, I think it would be more compelling a competition for Big Brother (especially since once the F4 Veto winner is known over the live feeds, it takes much of the suspense out of the ensuing eviction). It has become too much about “what the HoH wants”, which takes a lot of the suspense out of the voting. I don’t know what they’d do with the HoH room if they get rid of the HoH, but it’s worth trying.
I think they can make simple changes that will change the game. 1. The winner of the HOH also wins 10k..... maybe we will see people stop throwing them as much and money creates jealously. 2. The Veto winner gets to name the replacement nominee... again less people will try to throw the comp and there is the strategies of possible blindsides or them saving them self and making someone else mad. This may also make the HOH have to campaign for who goes home after the veto ceremony if there is a replacement. 3. Stop revealing the vote count to the house. This one is easy, it will stop the 'vote with the house' mentality. This may help players with campaigning to stay.
This was a really weird season for me. I found the cast pretty likable overall, and that may have saved it from being really low for me, but there were several things about the season that were disappointing to me. The BB Bucks twist definitely fell flat, and the only thing the Coin of Destiny twist really did was prevent Claire from winning the Final 8 HOH. I also still think it is baffling that nobody outside the Cookout was ever able to pick up on the alliance before they were evicted. It just doesn't make sense to me as a viewer, and I don't think the show really showed why the Cookout was such a great alliance, despite some of the members not really liking each other too much. Also, while I think it is nice that we finally have an African American winner, I wish the Cookout wasn't so determined to get every member to Final 6. If they wanted the first African American winner to be a deserving one, they shouldn't have kept Big D or Azah, because it was so clear that they were likely locks for the final 2. Finally, I do believe that Xavier is a good winner overall, but it felt like a lot of his win just fell into his lap from other houseguests making poor individual gameplay decisions, including Tiffany and Kyland. The final three of the season was just really goofy to me.
Also, I know the Cookout is not racist, per se, but I think a lot of people interpret "racism" differently and are going to look at this season the wrong way. I fear that now that an alliance based on skin color and racial backgrounds has essentially become the most dominant alliance in BB history, subsequent seasons of the show will try to make decisions that will prevent a repeat alliance from succeeding in the same fashion, leading to even greater levels of racism in the future. It almost makes me feel like the show needs to be abolished.
@@DVal-bl7hm I agree. That’s the thing that pissed me off all season. Now that the cookout exists it’s going to be a lot worse off racial wise as players now know this strategy is a possibility being in play especially if they do any other seasons like this. So good job bb you made the show more racist by trying to do the opposite. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It’s a fundamental rule of life
Larry don't kid yourself about what you're mad about the CO. The game has always been dominated by a racialized alliance. Its just been a white alliance and white ppl are used to being the primary race in groups so they don't have to discuss it. Racism is not up to individual interpretation. Its the systemic oppression of marginalized people. Racism doesn't happen to people have the sytemic advantage ( White people as race was literally created to put them on top during colonization and that white supremacy persists).
@@cutiepiemania45 Of course in previous seasons the alliances were mostly white, the house has been 70% white for the entire show's history. The CO sets the stage for racial groups in diverse casts to stick together, and that's a bad thing. future bb will be race wars.
@@cutiepiemania45 Bingo. People who don't understand why the Cookout had to exist really lack empathy. Did people fear that young White guys would always stick together after the Brigade steamrolled BB12??? No? So ask yourself why you have this fear now that a Black person has finally won
Kyland's blindside is going to go down as one of the most salty and bitter of all time. It was just a wild moment and Kyland is going to be dealing with it for a long time
I also have BB23 ranked at 13th among the BBUS seasons! I absolutely loved the cast. And the pre-jury was some of my favorite Big Brother in a while. But a dominant alliance sticking together and making Final 6 hurts this season, just as it would hurt any other season. I loved the Cookout members and greatly appreciated their game being for a cause. But it was also super frustrating seeing Tiffany actively choose a lesser route for her game. I can only imagine how much more entertaining the season is if Tiff sticks with The Detectives rather than switching to die-hard loyalty for the Cookout. This hurts the season quite a bit for me. As it was not only predictable, but I also had to watch somebody willingly play a lesser game than they could have played. It leads to a lot of conflict towards my feelings on the season. On my personal rankings, I actually have it at 13th directly after BB12. And the reason being that BB12’s Brigade made a move against one another at a point. Watching Hayden go after Matt because it bettered his game helps BB12 edge out BB23 for me. A solid season nonetheless, though!
Cookout kinda sucks to watch. They aren't bad people or competitors but it's like a game of tug of war when the other side only gets to send out one player at a time. Also not a big fan of the racial stuff this season, it feels counterproductive for what they were going for. Low tier season, not very fun to watch, but the cast is pretty good, if boring strategy-wise.
This was one of my favorite casts of all time! So even though the gameplay was kind of predictable it was made much more palatable by genuinely enjoying (most of) the people making the moves. Agreed that the Cookout making final 6 together was the climax of the season. It was definitely impressive and even cathartic to see it come to fruition and see them realize their mission. Not sure where it ranks overall but definitely mid-high tier for me. And yes looking forward to CBB3 this winter!
Honestly this season became boring the farther the farther the cookout went. I am glad we got a black winner and a lot of black people going far but I quit watching with Claire's elimination because that legit made me realize everything was predictable and made me mad. I loved the season and loved the cookout, but I wanted it destroyed by having them have to have to put one of their members up at least once.
This is a perfect 6/10 season. The cast is pretty likable for the majority of the season and it had some fun moments, even if the twists fell aside and some of the gameplay became very predictable with an obvious winner. But I can't say Xavier wasn't on the edge multiple times early on.
I really wanted Claire to win fan favorite but Tiffany winning was still very satisfying. She was a really smart player and I was so sad when she got evicted. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring her back for another season.
I was completely shocked that dx didn't win by like a 90% landslide. He was one of the most likable houseguests I've seen in a long time. Definitely didn't think it would be tiff to win
The season was wayyy to political for me. I 100% agree with the movement of BLM. But it just didn’t feel like big brother. Hardley any backstabs, no episode like stood out to me like “wow that just changed the game!” There was also no battle back which gets me to think that CBS just wanted nobody to screw up the cookout. I watched it all the way to final 6 and I just got incredibly bored. There was less talk about game and more talk about “we did it, we’re going to have a first black winner”. I have no issue with someone black winning but don’t deny, the show repeatingly mentioning it got very old. Especially for someone who binged the show instead of watching every Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday. I noticed, Peridiam, you say in the video that producers have made casting decisions that might have been racially motivated. And I think you’re exactly right, from a political standpoint, this alliance dominance needed to happen to make up for those actions made by CBS. My point is, that it was unbearably boring to watch
I actually loved this season though predictable I was intrigued each week how things would play out. To be fair I did sort of stop watching toward the end but that’s because I was bitter! I loved Tiffany and Hannah so much and for both to go out at once I never even bothered watching to DE. The only reason I watched another episode before the finale was Ky’s exit. This season was great but it hurt to see good players go out way too early, watching Tiff betray her own game for the cookout hurt. Derek X, Claire, Tiff, and Hannah all should have gotten better placements. I didn’t mind Xavier won he’s one of the better winners but to win against big D… he could have done better. The worst part honestly was the episode editing… there are so many parts skipped or twisted it was a different show than what live feeds showed. Overall top 10 seasons for me but it was extremely frustrating most of the time.
As dominating as this season was with the cook out... the early boots just played horrible and the boot order was so predictable that it made for such a boring season 😴 😑 😒 🙄
What changed is they finally cast black players that were GOOD PLAYERS. Sorry, but players like Day, Swaggy C and Baliegh make for interesting TV but they have 0 and I mean 0 chance of winning.
I dislike when they put the houseguests into groups from the beginning. Once the groups are removed and no longer keeping each other safe, they all still stick together for the most part and it just makes it kind of boring. I think it could be interesting if they (the producers) picked peole to be an alliance/group and the houseguests found out who their group members were while in the diary room and the goal was to stay a group the longest without telling anyone or any of your group getting vetoed out. They could even do it with 2 groups of 5 and the remaining houseguests are not put into a planned group and have no idea it's even happening.
I'm going to be completely honest. I didn't like the cookout, and I wish they were just until jury. BEFORE YOU COME AFTER ME WITH PITCHFORKS, HEAR ME OUT. 1. I totally respect and understand why they were formed and yes, what they did was amazing and completely deserved. 2. With that said. Why couldn't the cookout just have dissolved come jury?! We probably would've had a ton more drama and a lot more strategy, and honestly we would've likely ended up with a final four of Tiff, Chaddah, Claire and DX (Tiff 99% wins here, which honestly I think is a much better outcome than what we got.) 3. The other thing is that no other player in the house could ever voice any real suspicions they had about the cookout because they knew that people would want their heads on a platter if they did so. To me, that's just kind of unfair. 4. KEEP IN MIND THAT I COMPLETELY RESPECT AND AM HAPPY FOR THE COOKOUT, THEY 10000% DESERVED THEIR VICTORY (except maybe DF, he was kind of just there...)
But Claire and DX literally discussed the possibility of the alliance and no one came at their necks lol. That’s just a bad assumption even though based off past seasons the black players were automatically assumed to have some sort of deal and thus got targeted together.
@@jonathan536 based off their post interviews they did say they did believe in the speculation that Tiffany Hannah Kyland and Xavier had some sort of 4 deal they just never thought of Azah and Big D
All Tiff would've had to do is get Claire to use her Coin HoH as a excuse to take out Xavier. Would be one of the GOAT moves and kick off a killer endgame.
For me, the problem of this season is that people were not doing things for their best interest and playing for themselves to win. They were playing for a “group” of people to win instead of the selfish narrative the reality tv usually brings because there is only one winner, and usually people want to win, but this season the alliance did not care who won. Just as long as one of them won they were all happy. And that just makes it very very boring for me to watch
Peridiam, that monologue from 17:30 to 18:40ish honestly changed my prospective of this season. Still didn’t like the season but honestly CBS is the real villains. From BB15, 19, 21 & 22 new age BB really underwhelms
Peridiam, you got it on the mark when you said they need to change up the competitions! The HGs have gotten too good at figuring out when certain competitions are going to happen. I wouldn’t mind seeing more mental and skill-based competitions, especially in the Veto competitions. I don’t mind the spelling competition that some seasons have had, but what about a cryptogram competition where they have to decode a message or series of messages with no hints at all? I’m just throwing out ideas here.
They need to dump the wall comp completely. No one should be able to tell that someone can not win a specific comp before it even happens and we all know that when we see the wall! The physical nature of the comps has increased a lot the past few seasons.
For this supposed new era this season was a letdown. I love the diversity and the cast but the gameplay was stagnant. BB has to do something to fix the big alliances just dominating. Three seasons in a row that I haven’t liked modern BB has been a letdown outside of 17 and 20 and even 20 got weak around the end.
Survivor 41, while still the same game, HAS CHANGED and it’s been gooooood. Big Brother needs some of that survivor time off to realize that it’s time to change up the formula. Til then, it likely won’t get any better...
It has to be in the bottom-middle for me. While we are promised a new era for the game, the only thing that was new was the cast demographics- something that was mandated by the network itself. Everything else is just the same old story. Same comps, same house breakdown, the same twists flopping over helping to destroy what could have been a very interesting season. The CookOut, while dominant, did have its fair share of criticism, mainly around the reasoning why it was formed- to crown the show's first black winner. While you can agree or disagree with that reasoning, it doesn't matter. What matters is the simplified version. The alliance was formed so that a person of a particular race wins. It was an intentional race-based alliance. It was an alliance set to make sure a person of a particular race wins. During the season, a discussion came up on a DX vs. DF final 2. Would the CO still be respected if all members voted for DF to win just to make history? I say that the CO got lucky that the season's winner is a respectable and solid player. That being said, it is just a regular big brother season with just a different coat of paint on it. Nothing really changed. Big alliance still dominated, twists flopped, same old competitions.... are we really in a new era?
@@shauntraniesetaylor6435 and let's not forget that casting was a major problem here. Not exactly a lot of POC HGs prior to BB23 and in reference to the black HGs, are often cast in a stereotypical fashion .
I consider her a mastermind because she MANAGED to do it. Other alliances (that may or may not be called the regulators) had attempted this and failed, as had Foutte. The ability to SUCCESSFULLY DO IT is what makes her a mastermind to me
BB23 is the one and only counter to my mindset of “reality TV is only interesting if people are a little mean to each other” Because it was extremely friendly and cuddly with like 2 moments of legitimate personal conflict and yet I still found it really engaging
@@SchmergDergen You’re absolutely right I loved it, maybe turn your blinders off and realize it was about getting our first ever black winner in over 20 years; it was not about getting white houseguests out. If you do not understand that, maybe do some self reflection and address your own implicit biases.
IDC who’s in the alliance, or what the alliance is for, I always for some reason am NOT cheering on the most powerful alliance in the season. Things are more entertaining when shit goes wrong and stuff falls apart, but this season didn’t have that, and for that reason, it wasn’t that fun to watch.
I think we're being too hard on the season. A lot of coments are basically "the cast was likable but the gameplay was boring", which to me sells it really short. Bullet points: -The Cookout was the dominant alliance, but a fascinating one. They weren't white people coming together out of commonality and feeling high and mighty about their gameplay. but a complex web of relationships that didn't necesarily agree or see eye to eye everytime. -Everyone in the cast brought something to the table, and most left an actual mark on the gameplay by winning a competition that changed course. More than any other season, this really felt like a cast or a group, not just people living together (altought fuck the sexism that came out during the first and last weeks). -The worst recurring problem of 23 is how the target was locked after the veto ceremony. This makes the current week feel like a drag, but the players were already thinking about next week, they weren't sitting still and waiting till thursday. -There weren't confrontations, but it had levity and emotions baked into each and every week. If you want fights, there are plenty on season 15 and 19 for you to enjoy. -Tiffany (and to an extent Hannah) leaving hurt the endgame, but it kind of took a turn as being unfair. Tiffany was amazing to watch (really deserved AFP), but as a player, you have to get her out. Ky pulled the trigger too early, but for Azah, Derek and Xavier was what made the most sense. To be mad at them for evicting her is ridiculous. Overall, i think this a top 10 season, and by far the best in the last few years. It would have been cool for the CO to be pressed harder, or for Tiff to take it home, but it gave memorable houseguests, interesting and complicated gameplay, more diversity than ever, and a historic run and win.
We have to stop lumping Hannah in with Tiffany just because she was Tiff's sidekick. Tiff carried Hannah and the majority of Hannah's game relied heavily on Tiffany's social game. Hannah was pretty forgettable in terms of actual gameplay. She didn't do much besides help Tiff strategize.
Hot take- this cast is hella overrated. Claire, Alyssa, Hannah, Azah and Big D are just sheep. Tiff & X underwhelmed imo. Scrap this cast no one except maybe Tiff and DX should get a second chance.
Hmmm tiff lost the win well before the final 6. The second she came up with the “master plan” is when she lost the game because the master plan was really hand Xavier the win plan. She literally went to the end with 4 people who hated her or didn’t not respect her instead of going to the end and winning with people like Derek X, Claire, Hannah, Christian, Alyssa. If that was the final 6 Tiffany has the win in the bag and we get a great season with a great winner but instead Tiffany was hellbent on throwing her game away and ruining the season
@@larrythecableman6963 no it. her plan was to go to final 4 with Xavier hannah Kyland. these people like each other. ky and X take each other out at final 4.(this actually happened.) one guy with hannah and tiffany. They both take tiff. She basically got caught trying to turn the guys against each other. then had one of the worst hoh weeks at final 8.
@@gqprince2 no lmao. Maybe if she didn’t already throw her game in the trash before that. The second she won that hoh she wasn’t supposed to her game was over. And she has said in interview that if she could go back and change that and she said she always would’ve won that hoh so that means she always loses. Also x would always take Hannah over her and x still would’ve won the game lmaoo
Honestly, outside of the cast and the pre jury, I can only place it in low mid tier because of just how much everything was the same. Recycled comps Recycled dominant alliance Recycled twists Predictable Jury Disappointing Double Boring Finale Predictable Winner And just everything else. I cannot believe they have the audacity to say “It’s a new era” and shove “First African American winner” in our faces for the last 3rd of the game. It’s really big propaganda signals showing that nothing has really changed. It didn’t help that the most loved people were evicted earlier and Kyland and Derek F overstayed their welcome by too much. Seriously, the most disappointing thing about this season is rewarding a player who did absolutely nothing, and won 75k. AND ON TOP OF THAT, not take any accountability. I think the whole drama between an all black alliance is ridiculous on Facebook, but if there’s a counter argument to be made, or two tbh. Is that 1. TAMAR WAS FIRST AND NO ONE BOTHERED TO MENTION HER. 2. Making an alliance purely because of race is just… not right in general, even if their motives are justified. Race should never become such a huge factor in making alliances, seasons, nominations, or anything else on Big Brother. It only causes controversy, especially when The Cookout’s main purpose was to do just that. It’s kind of like forcing history to happen, and I only worry that future seasons will mimic the formula and just cause even more controversy… That being said, Xavier did deserve to win even outside of The Cookout’s purpose. So many things were improved from what the previous 2 seasons did, and it’s a step in the right direction, but there’s still more to be done
Good overall post. I feel like guaranteed if they ever did this with any other race it would go the same way and again it would be perfectly justified and boring to watch lol
@@HeavyMetal-jy4vj I do like to note that statistically African Americans have done worse (excluding this season) however they are the most represented minority group despite Hispanics and Latinos being a larger percentage of the US population. Then again, Latinos from the few statistics they have, have done at least slightly better. While Asian Americans… well let’s just let Jun take the spotlight for that :/
They should implement a really crazy twist....no twist, hint at it all season long, tease it, make them think its going to be something crazy that is insane, but never drop it. Get the hamster's on edge, make them paranoid. Drive them nuts. That is how to make Big Brother good again.
about the best i can give this season is a 6/10 on its best day. on its worst day its struggling for a 2/10. mid-low tier season for sure, probably around the 15-19 mark. the cast was good, and the strategy was intelligent and well played. thats honestly the main problem with this season. this cast was TOO smart. the best parts of big brother in my opinion are the fights, the drama, the crazy flips and crazy noms that are SOOOO against certain ppls best interests. the problem with this season was there was nobody besides frenchie on this cast who had ANY pension for drama or chaos. literally the whole cast was content with drifting along until the only natural conclusion came. there were no big moves that matter as the final 6 were all playing for a common goal and their power was never questioned throughout the season and everyone else below them simply didnt have the information needed to strike a rebellion. everything was extremely predictable and bland at the end of the day. a lot of ppl predicted the winner preseason, and even more predicted him after the first few episodes. the contestants went out basically like the season did, a small sigh of acceptance. i remember how everyone preseason was praising the ppl on this cast for being the smartest and biggest superfan cast ever. now i realize that in big brother, smart+superfan=boring. petition for the next cast to be the dumbest and most clueless group of individuals weve ever seen on this show. all jokes aside this season went downhill fast as soon as the only problematic characters on the show left. my best comparison would be similar to survivor game changers. as soon as all the big names (chaos wise) went out, it just became a bunch of snoozefest players playing optimal big brother. not entertaining. hoping for more chaotic and fun big brother in the future.
Am I the only one who was in two minds about the Cookout? I really really don't like majority alliances at all no matter who is in them, but I can still appreciate what the CO stands for and accomplished.
Big D ultimately ruined the season for me and I don’t know how I can’t give it anything more than a 4/10. Some great moments and some great cast members that I hope to see play the game again, but this season was more annoying than dramatic. Also, the cast size needs to decrease. Big teams kill the season sometimes.
the best big brother twist would be if u work with anyone u get expelled from the game it would straight ruin every attempt for big alliances to be a thing and lets be real watching people try and work together and then get expelled would be hilarious
I'm curious about something. You even included the season in your ranking with OTT and CBB. Where do those seasons rank for you though? And more importantly where are the Survivor season rankings?
Ok, personal opinion here, but they probably won’t ever get rid of some of the ‘staple’ comps, Otev, the ‘which comp was this’ based off description one, the wall comp, etc. Just because they are things the audience recognizes. And obviously they never will stop with the twists. I know it’s a slim chance but it’d be really cool if America got to decide stuff. Not play favorites but like, which comps are this week? Or at least like pick the HOH comp? Idk. Another slim chance but Pre Season I wish we got to vote on like which powers or twist would be that season. Not how it’s used or on who, but yeah. Maybe the extra vote or cancel a vote from survivor would be cool? Maybe you can upon completion of weird stuff like putting flour on someone in the shower or have a water balloon fight, get the ability to remove someone from the upcoming Veto (Not the noms, and not the HOH comp because that’s no fair). But yeah like stated the ability to add/subtract from the total prize pool would be huge. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE EVERYONE BE IS UNITARDS FOR A WHOLE WEEK AND THEN THE VETO/HOH IS THE WAL COMP?? LIKE COME ON.
At the end of the day, this is a tv show built for entertainment. I love strategy, I love cutthroat gameplay, I love blindsides and twists and turns. This season obviously didn’t give us much of that. But it gave me more, in my opinion. I adored this cast, they’re my favorite cast by a long shot. 3 people skyrocketed to the top of my favorite players list by mid-season and multiple others are in my top 10-20. Although the game was dominated by the cookout, it didn’t feel like a regular steam roll to me. For the majority of the season they did not dominate competitions the way alliances like the committee did. No one outside of the committee (well, I guess enzo. but he was committee adjacent) won an HOH & only 2 non committee members won a POV. That is not at all how this season went. Minus maybe the majority of pre-jury evictions - these people came to PLAY. This wasn’t a grou of stereotypical Instagram model/personal trainer recruits who’ve never seen the show & only came so they could make a career selling flat tummy tea. They all wanted it so bad. There was almost always game talk happening on live feeds. I feel like the season keeps being rated low because the Cookout dominated. I understand where this idea is coming from, but we have to remember that every single person in the cookout said they would’ve aligned with other people & played totally different without the CO. Basically, if I had the choice between a lovable, amazing, smart cast and the first black winner of big brother - or a season that was intense, strategic, had me on my toes but the cast was unlikable & dumb… I’d pick the first. This is not a season I will rewatch - I skipped a good 1/4 of them episodes anyways. But it will likely be my favorite season because as a fan & a live feeder I loved loved loved every minute of it (ok, not every minute. But most of them)
Actually Derek F and Kyland were recruits. Derek F had never watched a full season and didn't know how the final 4 worked. Derek F admitted in his final speech that he came to get famous.
@@kathyharris1627 Well Kyland had seen the show before, he referenced old players, comps etc frequently. Derek X was a recruit, Derek F was. More than just that but most of the people there weren’t & my whole point was it wasn’t a “*group* of stereotypical Instagram model/person trainer” type of recruit. Usually the show just casts people that are good to look at. And my other point was that they were all there to play & to win not just for Instagram clout. They were much more authentic & smart.
The only redeeming factor about this season was that they weren't all total assholes to the people they were voting out, unlike other terrible seasons such as 19.
3rd worst ever behind 19 and 22. This is one of those seasons that people will rate higher now because they thought the cast was full of nice people, but a year from now when you are looking to rewatch it you will realize how much of a slog it becomes past week 1. No drama outside of week 1 and kylands exit (and even that, no yelling drama at all), no fun strategy in the post jury (and no really fun big moves at all). Its just not a fun season that i would ever go out of my way to watch. I think its literally the least drama filled season of all time and thats just so boring to me. But people want to rate it higher than they should because of diversity in the cast, a good strategy and a strong black winner, and thats super duper and all...............but ask how many survivor fans go back to watch survivor 14. And i would rewatch that season of survivor long before i watched BB23 again. i also worry that, now that teaming up and voting based on race is 100% a confirmed and allowed strategy .....well you cant put that genie back in the bottle. What happens when a white player puts two black players up and says "gotta be weary of cookout 2.0, because even if it hasnt formed it might"? Racial alliances are now going to be the new "all male/all female alliance" boogeyman, to be worried about every year and i dont feel good about that.
@@SchmergDergen you thought the entertaining people left pre-jury lmfao the only entertaining person that left pre-jury is Frenchie so that’s how I know your opinion is shit me thinks
@@SchmergDergen yeah, terrible shit take lmfao. No one gives a shit about watching shit gameplay, go watch The Challenge if you want drama. This game is about strategy.
Low tier from me, I knew exactly what was going to happen from like week 2. Only entertaining moment of the season was Kyland leaving and being a piece of shit about it.
But a few of them stirred the pot too hard a few times. The first ever BB Houseguest was a black houseguest from 2000 and it was William to get voted off. But he was too honest for most people 🤣
Getting sick of the same gameplay every season. US needs more bullshit Canadian twists 🤣 Purists might disagree but sorry no boring. Xavier was the only likable and good player in the cookout the rest are hella overrated and mind numbingly arrogant (not including Azah who was just plain useless.) Predictable streak of seasons continues at 5. Bottom tier for me. Casting department needs to stop influencing their seasons heavily.
Xavier did a lot, Tiffany did more but her end-game strategy was horrific and she literally ruined her own game. Hannah is very overrated to say she was just Tiffany's sidekick and wasn't a competitive nor social threat, Azah and Big D were..just there to be carried and Kyland was a great competitor but delusional. Xavier had one of the best social games in the house next to Tiffany., except Xavier could actually keep relationships in his alliance.
@@SaidByTy I agree with you. But he was still a 'good player' by definition because he adapted to the situation and won. I don't include myself in this 'y'all' bracket you put me in so please take me out 🤣
@@mgm8075 this pretty much covers it. Mainly Xavier made everyone like and respect him enough to not feel dirty about rewarding him with money. The only potential bitterness ironically came from some cookout members.
BB23 was the most racist and contrived season in BB history. CBS tried so hard to make a black person win. A season or two before they had a white guy trying to lead the black players to a win. It was a disaster. The only way they could force it was to make half the cast black and have them form an alliance based on skin color and then have them target the other players based on skin color. The very definition of racism. I stopped watching the season when that happened and have not watched BB since. I had quit the show once before after the season when Evil Dick won because he was disgusting. I didn't watch for several years, but did finally return. This season, BB23, ended my watching of BB forever. If they went that far to rig the show for this purpose I know it will never be good again. Plus I don't trust them after seeing this kind of evil. It's an insult to black people that they felt they could only get a black winner by doing this. They should have just kept casting well chosen black players until they had a real black winner. It would have been organic and everyone would have been cheering. I would have loved that!
I feel like this season was kind of a necessary evil. The mistreatment of minorities on Big Brother, specifically black contestants, basically forced the Cookout not to deviate from the alliance. The Cookout was bigger than each of their individual games and they were aware of that, and that caused them to play for the cause instead of for themselves. Extremely noble, but also makes for a pretty boring viewing experience on this kind of program. Hopefully, now that that glass ceiling of “first black winner” has been broken, we can see black houseguests, and really all houseguests who belong to a minority group, that are able to play individually as themselves and not feel pressured to play a certain way because of CBS’s crap decisions throughout the years.
i guess the main thing they could have been referring to with this being different to any other ssn was how cbs FINALLY updated their casting quota to have at least 50% pocs in the cast as opposed to fking 3 token poc players and 15 white ppl ngl LOL so that made me rlly happy to see the first EVER south asian (hannah) cast on the show.
I only started watching BB when Survivor went into hiatus. So I’ve only seen seasons 22 & 32. As much as I tried to enjoy the two seasons, they followed the same script. A dominant alliance formed and steamrolled the game. I’m not sure if I will be back for the next one.
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Anyone else simply despise Derek F in the last few episodes. He treated Azah like his sidekick and continually beraded her, saying she was crazy to think that she did anything for herself during the game. Big Delusional thought that he carried Azah to final 3 and made Azah feel terrible during her last week there, and Big D didn’t care. He’s a jerk and did nothing gamechanging during the game.
I thought that Derek F. was appalling to watch for most of the season.
I thought it was really annoying how the show kept editing him like he was some kind of hero. I was so annoyed that he was given hundreds of BB bucks just to blow off the Coin of Destiny comp, and I would have been so irritated if he somehow won AFP. Derek F just gave me Raven vibes after a while.
I hated Big D the ENTIRE time!!!!
The only gamechanging thing he did was take up one place to sit and sleep
Will always be disappointed in Xavier for not having the respect to take Azah to the final 2. She was a sweetheart and deserved the second place money way more than DF. Xavier would've won regardless.
My problem with the season was that such a great cast was wasted with predictable gameplay and people not playing for themselves. Tiffany/Hannah for example got rid of their closest allies (Claire/DX) for the cookout alliance and then they ended up being the first two cookouts to go.
I hope for next season to have unpredictable and cutthroat gameplay and individually-driven moves instead of big alliances coasting again.
Exactly like it’s good that it’s for a good cause for the black community but it was so predictable
@@boredaf541 they dominated that simple
I hope next season is like big brother 20. And to be honest I wouldn’t be mad if next season had a bit more drama like a big brother 19 wouldn’t be complaining.
Yes to this ❤️
its not like Kyland and X didn't the same thing to happen as well
Claire saying, "Now I have to be in that dang montage" sounds like a perfectly executed Phineas and Ferb gag I love it
where is that montage anyway!
Probably an unpopular opinion: Had Tiffany played this season for herself and not "for the greater good", then this could have been a very amazing season. She could have also taken the win.
not uncommon at all, that's literally been the mainstream opinion of almost all the fans. The real unpopular opinion is that TIffany would've still lost even if there was no cookout.
@@mgm8075 I feel for Tiffany and the second HOH she won could have been the perfect time to put either X or Kyland. Then, she could have had a much clearer path to the end.
We probably would have seen Derek F. go at Final 4 or 5 unless Tiffany cut Hannah.
@@UnbreakableBloke That's why I credit X for his social game. Whether he knew it or not, going to every single cookout member and whining about how Tiffany was selfish was a smart play that gave him the perception as the most trustworthy person in the alliance,. His social credit carried him to the finals
I do t think so. Clare and DX would taken each other to final 2
exactly, idk why people think they would've just let TIffany steam roll to the end. Eventually DX, Claire, Hannah, Christian, Alyssa, Ky or X would've caught on to her
Kyland's blindside was amazing and unforgettable honestly.
Sadly that was the only eviction blindside
@@Jack-ol1io and brent
@@Herman-rl2hx Derek F told Brent he was going home before his eviction. So that was no longer a blindside.
@@isaakberghe837 oh tru
@@isaakberghe837 Derek F ofc ruining something else
The fact that we got two unanimous winners back to back and both seasons were kind of boring to watch and easily predictable really speaks volumes about how the game is played now. When Dan won it was amazing with a great season behind it. The past two seasons have felt like two movies with the same script but different actors. Sure the people are different but you know what is going to happen from the start.
It's all rigged! Every season they already have the winner. Watch! Every comp is a set up! This season was the worst! A winner should be a winner because they earned it. Nothing should be about skill, not skin! This season makes me sad! Probably won't be watching any more.
@@es1776 its impossible to rig a show like big brother. Just say you're mad and move on
@@gloria.meyitt Well I am mad. But for only the reason of how it has been played. And it is very possible to rig. Look back at Cody's season. From the first game, they had him as the winner. The timed games. No one knows what the real time are. You're telling me that there is absolutely no way that they can give someone an advantage?
This season I was hoping Tiffany would win. Why did people let Derek F. Get away with saying the plan to have 6 POC's come together and form the cookout? Tiffany just sat there and said nothing. Why?
@@es1776 you think production wanted Britini and Derek X to leave the week they got the most BB Bucks? There's definitely some funny stuff going on sometimes but everything isn't a huge conspiracy
@@es1776 omg just cuz tiff didnt win doesnt mean its rigged. Why would bb rig for Xavier to win. He worked his way to the top. And people took big d to the end because he is easy to beat. You are really over thinking it for no reason
Mid-tier for sure. One of the most likeable casts of all time and masterful strategy, but the season was very predictable with next to zero fights/drama
Hey we got the best first week every and kyland’s nephew speech.
I agree with you. There were enough factors to make this a mid tier season. I'd rank it somewhere between 12-14.
Definitely gives me bb16 vibes. The cast was so much fun but the gameplay was to be desired
@@pranksterboy8371 which were great but they were only one week + 5 minutes out of 85 days !
No masterful strategy but yeah this cast was ok
Here's a twist idea: HOH goes as normal, two people are nominated. However, there's a randomly selected secret HOH that nominates two other people. The acting HOH has to pick one of their original nominees, but also one of the secret HOH's nominees. This wouldn't happen every week.
This would probably not do much, but it has the potential to break a lot of friendships and create good TV drama.
That sounds smart! Maybe something in the pre-jury phase where players can win a secret comp to do so... like the safety comps we had in bb22
That sounds like battle of the block but actually having the possibility of being exciting. The problem with secret HOH's is that everyone knows who it is anyway.
This would only further help a dominating alliance.
Nah, people will catch on the "secret HoH" thing quickly and the physical beasts will just band together.
@@michaelmadrid2682 That's why it's not decided by competition, but randomly, so that there's a chance somebody who can't win a competition gets power.
“The coin of destiny, destiny, destiny, destiny.”
-Kween Julie 2021
If I never hear "so I walk into the backyard" ever again I'll be happy. Change up the DR script
I'm okay with big alliances succeeding as long as the players in the alliance are doing what is best for their game. The Cookout alliance only prevented people from playing the game normally which just made everything pointless. This season was like that one reward challenge from Survivor: San Juan del Sur where Jeff stopped it early because all of the remaining players didn't care who won, and were openly talking about who they were going to give the reward to. At that point it didn't matter how the rest of the challenge played out because the result would be the same either way.
your part about less drama, more stories... IS GOLD
This was the very first season I didn't listen to feed updates or do any online interaction with the show. It was too predictable & boring. No one had a killer instinct. Even Azah said she didn't care if she won & Claire gave up for the "cause". I want more aggressive players & not these "feel good" box checkers.
Bro, I hear "Peridiam should be on big brother." Fuck I'm way ahead of y'all I say "Peridiam should be a producer."
This season should sit comfortably next to bb12 in rankings. Very likeable cast with very boring gameplay. Hopefully cbs continues making a diverse cast with enjoyable people, but also changes the game in more effective ways then whatever "twists" they've got going on right now.
The fact that the cookout were able to make history is pretty damn impressive, but that doesn't take away from the fact that this was another very boring and predictable season of Big Brother. Like BB22, I feel like I knew exactly what was going to happen each week, with a big groupthink alliance dominating the whole game. It's just not very entertaining to watch in my opinion. 3/10. Not as bad as BB22 or BB19, but still very meh.
At least bb22 had a good finale with a major blindside (Nicole's eviction). This season was boring till the last vote 😂. I liked the cast tho.
They was dominate
Survivor>big brother
def better than bb19, but very comparable if not slightly worse to bb22
It drives me crazy how they explain a challenge/comp 80 times.
A few changes they could make to shake up the game,
1. Change almost all the competitions, only leaving 2-3 classics.
2. Don’t reveal the vote count on eviction night. Just state the name of the houseguest evicted. That way “voting with the house” can’t be a strategy.
3. Once pre-jury and once post-jury have all the houseguests compete in HOH anonymously. Nobody knows who it is.
4. Do a double eviction taking it from 5 to 3 houseguests. (Those weeks are HORRIBLE to watch and drag the game)
4. Maybe even cut a week/two weeks out of the game totally. Everyone gets end of season exhaustion and even the CBS schedule gets squeezed, causing weird rescheduled episodes the last few weeks.
Ha!! I get sick of them yelling at me in a scripted fashion in the diary room, too! Especially when the outcome for weeks in a row is so obvious. Couldn’t have put it better myself
My ultimate review is this is a very low tier season. It was good strategy that wasn't fun to watch - every week past week 1 was extremely predictable and the big alliance never struggled or had their power questioned. While they didn't get every HOH their will was done every week, there was no counter-alliance gaining power, and it ended with a number of boring people making it to the end because people weren't playing individual games.
Congrats to the cookout on achieving their mission. May future seasons be more exciting.
Yup... I punched out halfway .
glad they pulled it off, but it was boring
I mean i still watched..
but it was obvious the Cookout would remain hidden in plain sight and was inevitable.
seemed no one wanted the cookout to fail even everyone outside of the cookout.
All I wanted was a season that was better than 22/All Stars 2. For "The most/second racist season" , "the Cookout are criminals," "there's gonna be a race war....," and yet, I got what I wanted. So, let's talk about the cast, drama, the "controversial" dominate alliance, and the future.
*The Cast*
The saving grace of the season. The new BB12 and BB16. Telegenic, likeable, had personality, and heck, were diverse in thought/appearance and personality without being dicks to one another. Heck, props to all the women for winning at least one comp this season. That's a first.
Travis: doing nothing wrong and falling to a domino of chaos and giving into the first boot clothes stripping,
Frenchie: having one of the most memorably worst HoH's and predicting the season,
Brent: showing a semblance of strategic potential only to get blindsided and targeted to his massive ego
Whitney: having the balls to wear that kind of sports bra in public without a damn in the world and supporting her fellow women even after she was eliminated and calling out Derek F and Kyland's behavior,
Christian: being a top contender and the anti-Jack jock only targeted because of his athletic prowess.
Britini: emotional: yes: yet had heart, drive, and called Kyland a b**** while being a energetic bundle of joy in and out of the house,
Derek X: being the second favorite houseguest, growing in potential regardless of naivety. Sarah Beth: the most adorable anti-villain, essentially the antithesis of Nicole A in BB21 and 22 who's nursery rhymes won't be forgotten, Claire: the superfan who had the emotional maturity to handle her eviction with grace and broke the fourth wall with just how much, Alyssa: what we all wanted from Analyse without any of the slut shaming.
Then the Cookout members themselves: the biggest "take that producers for not having better casting."
Tiffany: overrated to some, but the next Matt Hoffman: the head of the master plan with a more evolved strategy, and also suffered the same fate while being a fun character in her own right.
Hannah: the second in command, the sweet strategic second in command, heartbreaking elimination.
Kyland: a condescending jerk, easily a top player, manipulator, who could've won the game had it not been for his massive ego, pride and lack of self awareness.
Azah: too passive, almost would've became a top 2, probably would've ended up a bottom tier winner but hey: she made it through her social bonds. "Cooked, cleaned and slept their way to final 4"
Derek F: delusional at times, misogynistic, his laughs and love for momma being his only saving grace and entertaining in all the right and wrong ways to get to the end.
And Xavier: the dry witted, and all rounder player who took the opportunities that fell into his lap, planning small moves that netted him the move. A decent winner for a decent winner.
*The drama*
It wasn't explosive till Kyland's boot...memory but also messed up to watch. But it was emotional. Frenchie causing chaos that the other players picked up the pieces, Brent's behavior getting him the boot, the Christian blindside, Kyland pissing off all his alliance members to keep SB in and target Britini to Azah's ire, Hannah, Tiffany, Azah & Big D, and Xavier breaking down from having to vote out their more closer allies in the game, TIffany getting the misogynist behavior in her alliance for saving Claire only for Alyssa to win the veto and forcing her to vote out her closest ally, Hannah begging not to go while all but Xavier mocked her, would Derek F cut Azah or Kyland in the end, Azah almost making a 700,000 mistake.
*The Cookout themselves*
Having the balls to make Allison Grodner fuming from losing her favorites at the get go takes guts. And props to them: BB Facebook and some of BB Reddit rants isn’t coming true. They took the metagame of modern Big Brother and proved when the deck is equal, they’ll thrive. Instead of struggling to survive alone. And before BB12, this wasn’t a problem. So why would they “break the game” despite Derrick L and arguably the Brigade doing the same first?
Danielle and Kevin almost won their seasons, Candice and Howard did not deserve to be in a house that toxic with members claiming they had no merit to being there, Amber shouldn't have had to deal with Caleb, Dominique being treated as a social pariah (heck I'd throw Bridgette for how cliquey that cast was dealing with her), Kemi having her bathing suit stolen while she was asleep by Analyse and Christie, Jack being an insensitive douche to Kemi/Ovi/David while the Six Shooters alliance targeted their friends and allies: Kat, Jessica, Nicole. And the Committee…well most of them weren’t as bad in their behavior: but Memphis targeting David despite hating how the Jack’s treated his houseguests, Nicole F (a game move nonetheless though still messed up) making Davonne and Devin fight over a lie she caused and everyone arguing which of them were in the right, Christmas making a smart game move only to be lacking self awareness and claiming she would get shot for that when she’s a convicted felon…again, unnecessary.
Contrary to popular belief, black people can make it far in Big Brother without having to talk or deal with race. For some seasons, it was just nearly impossible because their houseguests didn't allow them. Call them racist: yell from the top of the hills for talking about race…despite them never showing antagonism to anyone else while also being a minority in the house. But they came to play the game, and for a dominant alliance, they were enjoyable to watch as people....most of the time, and they played hard. If that's racism to some people, then you're entitled to that opinion despite the evidence to the contrary.
And no, Sarah Beth isn’t racist either for trying to Hannah out. That was judged on her as a game player.
They didn't win as many comps as the Brigade but used an evolved version of their strategy, they considered turning on each other like the Scamper Squad several times but held firmer to get everyone to the end, they weren't toxic like Paul's cult even though the men in Kyland and Derek F need huge self-awareness on ego/misogyny/credit giving, they weren't dicks like the Six Shooters and Grateful nor alienated people with passive aggressive high school fakeness, and unlike the Committee, they didn't win 99% of comps…or played face to America while half the members mocked someone for having autism.
And the first dominant alliance to not lose anyone till the end. Could it get boring. On a surface level, yes. But much like how people got through BB16 and 19 for how impressive Derrick played and to wonder if Paul's control would be a foregone conclusion, how they maneuvered through the game was fun to watch. They didn't treat people like dicks in the house like 19, and 4 out of the 6 members contributed more than just Derrick handing out orders and everyone just falling for him.
And in the end, it led to a decent season. It was a season of good gameplay with a strong cast meets self destructive gameplay, emotions, and while it was a steamroll, it was a unique steamroll that hurt the players in the house on a game level, but made everyone who came out of it as decent people. It's a mid-tier season.
People will disagree, yelling racism to the end of the hill. But in the end, this season gave us something to talk about, and I got want I wanted: something much more fun with BB22 with players not rolling over to die despite the odds.
*So what happens next?*
Well only 3 members of the cast are coming out as hateable, a lot of the cast are still friends with one another and there wasn't a race war in sight, most fans want members of this cast to come back for some Early Boots, Second Chance, or, Heroes vs Villains, heck even BB24. So what needs to be done for BB24?
The Cookout did what they had to do, now the casting just needs to go even more all out with its cast: more superfans, recruits who are eager to learn and don't keep showing them BB16, get people who are alliance hunters, who want to cause telegetic chaos that doesn't push it too far. We need comps that force people to want to backstab one another, turn on each other, reward players with prizes and punishments: maybe affect the prize pool, more unique comps, twists that don't break the game that the dominant alliance can't exploit, more opportunities to make the players feel like people on the episodes, other comps that test the player's bonds and mental endurance, less comps for the athletic types to win, we've had 5 seasons in a row with beefy dudes and dudette winning, change it up.
But that's my take. And I'm at peace. A decent season with good gameplay, a dominant alliance that didn’t suck the joy out it, and a top tier cast.
Celebrity Big Brother 3 and Big Brother 24, here we come.
I suggest putting the $750,000 in cash under glass, in the house. Maybe it will remind some of the lamer players what is actually at stake.
The fact that Derek F was brought to final two is so disrespectful to the game. He did NOTHING but runs his mouth like he's the master puppeteer. Ugh.
Season 23 was unfortunately one of my least favorite Big Brother viewing experiences, because there was this overwhelming sense of sadness watching the season slowly crawl to its inevitable conclusion. Seeing the six Cookout members not be able to play in the way they wanted or even compete for the win, and the other ten contestants barely having a chance because of an alliance and mission completely out of their control made me feel as if the game I have loved my whole life was gone. I want to see people be ruthless, cutthroat, and selfish to win, so a season full of house target after house target never intrigued me. Even the drama about what non-Cookout member would be eliminated next just felt manufactured, because clearly the mission was too strong for the meaningless drama to actually change the course of the season.
Overall, this will go down as my least favorite season of the 22 regular seasons of Big Brother because the game was not allowed to be normally played due to the mission of the Cookout. I loved the cast, so I'm very disappointed with how this season turned out.
Kind of a weird perspective to have 0.o and to label this season as “not normal” even though the same formula of the big alliance steamrolling the whole season occurred. Only difference is this season the alliance actually accomplished what most alliances can’t, stay intact to battle it out.
Completely agree
" Seeing the six Cookout members not be able to play in the way they wanted or even compete for the win"
You mean throwing competitions? That has been around for a long time, not just this season. Its a strategic move.
@@dustinbrite2422 I think what he means is that because the 'mission' of the cookout was to have a final 6 of all black people, there was no tension in the alliance actually turning on each other. Big D and Tif hated each other and would talk shit about each other constantly, but because they were the same race in a race based alliance, there was no chance in hell they would betray each other before final 6. Tiffany would talk to the camera constantly about the idea of betraying the cookout before final 6, and acknowledged that actually getting to final 6 with the cookout out would put her in a losing situation but still rode it out with the cookout "for the culture". They weren't playing as individuals, they were just playing to get any black winner.
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Alyssa: “im not going to visit ky what am I talking about?!” LOL
Twist Idea: The winner (of something) gets to ask a device/producer "if ____ voted for _____" and get a yes or no answer, or something along those lines. It will expose social play and help underdogs being set up. Like a "voice of higher power" or something
Naa that would just make more houseguest scared to go against the HOH, which would make the whole dynamic of do whatever the HOH wants even stronger
You always give the best analysis and perspectives. I personally enjoyed this season as the strategy was really refreshing, I’m so used to watching 1-3 strategists a season and a bunch of coasters/shit gamers.
My review:
One of the best pre-juries ever, one of the worst post-juries ever. As soon as the HoH was won we knew who was going home, unless that person won veto in which case we knew who the backup target was and they went home. The target was never flipped on the HoH, there was never insurrection within the majority. After the dust of Frenchie's first week settled it was one of the least entertaining seasons ever, although that is partially because of how tight the gameplay was, usually the best moves aren't the sexy "Dan's Funeral" moves that work one in a million times, it's formulating a plan and executing, so I can't knock people like X and Tiffany for that.
With that said it's bottom half for me for sure, I probably have it in a category with BB12, BB13 and BB16, neither of which I'm particularly fond of. It's not as bad as 1, 9, 19, 21, and 22, but all the entreating people were gone way too early. Sorry but the endgame being Kyland's passive aggression, Derrick F's bad attitude, and Azah's blandness, I think what should be the best and most exciting part of the game turned into a game between Ky and X of whoever cut the other's throat wins. That's why I have it in the realm of seasons with seasons that were dominated by majority alliances that had varying level of exciting casts, but ultimately boiled down to one group of players far outclassing most of the rest (aside from 13 that is unrelated in this way, I just don't have any other group to put it in).
The cookout was by far the easiest and most efficient alliance I’ve seen in my time watching big brother and survivor. Good for them for playing smarter and not harder! They destroyed everything. I’m kind of interested/anxious to see the future ramifications of this dominant set up. I am only disappointed in how society justifies this season as diversity when Hispanic and Asian representation still seems to be dismal.
Although the cookout is a masterful alliance I'm worried about what it's legacy will be. As of right now people keep track of the ratio of guys to girls because of previous all guys/girls alliances. And so what this means is now people will intentionally keep track of the ratio of races in the house. We don't want to see a race war where people vote out the black people for fear of another cookout. I don't know if this will happen but it's something I'm worried about
I love almost all of this season, the cast was so fun to watch on the feeds and seeing the CO make it to the F6 was AMAZING! I can't wait to see DX and Tiffany come back to play again. Great vid Peridiam!
1) Having the HOH has run it course.... the good players have figured out that all you need to do is manipulate just one player each week to be safe as compared to Survivor (post merge) you have to manipulate as many as 9, 10, 11 people.... a much harder and interesting task. Get rid of the HOH, have a single immunity.... this should get rid of the team game concept. When 10 people are at risk of going home as compared to 2, this would make the sparks fly in the house 2) While they have change the cast, they did not change the personalities. We do not have real world people that people can relate to like in the early seasons. The early seasons were good at casing opposites. Loud vs quiet; religious vs non-religious; young vs older; ect ect ect. Now all you have is a bunch of people that are (or inspire to be) models, actors or IG influencers
Love that idea. Too many boring seasons lately. It's time for a big change.
So basically survivor but living in a fancy house?
I kind of like that idea. Sort of a modified version of how the nominations work on most international versions of BB, with the HGs nominating two people in the Diary Room. Here’s how it could be adapted for the more strategy-based format of BBUS:
🔘 HGs compete for immunity each week instead of HoH. This HG would be immune from nomination and eviction as well as any punishments (like slop), but perhaps as an added challenge is also not eligible to play for the Veto.
🔘 The other HGs nominate two HGs in secret in the Diary Room. HGs are not allowed to discuss who they are nominating before the nominations take place.
🔘 The two HGs with the most nominations go on the block.
🔘 The two nominees and four other players selected by random draw play for the Veto.
🔘 The Veto holder is not only safe from eviction and can take themselves off the block if nominated, they also *get to name the replacement nominee*.
🔘 The live vote and eviction proceeds as usual.
🔘 Also, I’d suggest getting rid of the F4 Veto entirely and end the Veto at the F5. Instead, have the person who wins immunity at the F4 select one HG to save, and then the other two compete for their spot in the F3. This is pretty much like the F4 firemaking challenge from Survivor. And although I don’t like it very much for Survivor, I think it would be more compelling a competition for Big Brother (especially since once the F4 Veto winner is known over the live feeds, it takes much of the suspense out of the ensuing eviction).
It has become too much about “what the HoH wants”, which takes a lot of the suspense out of the voting. I don’t know what they’d do with the HoH room if they get rid of the HoH, but it’s worth trying.
I think they can make simple changes that will change the game.
1. The winner of the HOH also wins 10k..... maybe we will see people stop throwing them as much and money creates jealously.
2. The Veto winner gets to name the replacement nominee... again less people will try to throw the comp and there is the strategies of possible blindsides or them saving them self and making someone else mad. This may also make the HOH have to campaign for who goes home after the veto ceremony if there is a replacement.
3. Stop revealing the vote count to the house. This one is easy, it will stop the 'vote with the house' mentality. This may help players with campaigning to stay.
This season stunk and even Zingbot was horrible
This was a really weird season for me. I found the cast pretty likable overall, and that may have saved it from being really low for me, but there were several things about the season that were disappointing to me. The BB Bucks twist definitely fell flat, and the only thing the Coin of Destiny twist really did was prevent Claire from winning the Final 8 HOH. I also still think it is baffling that nobody outside the Cookout was ever able to pick up on the alliance before they were evicted. It just doesn't make sense to me as a viewer, and I don't think the show really showed why the Cookout was such a great alliance, despite some of the members not really liking each other too much. Also, while I think it is nice that we finally have an African American winner, I wish the Cookout wasn't so determined to get every member to Final 6. If they wanted the first African American winner to be a deserving one, they shouldn't have kept Big D or Azah, because it was so clear that they were likely locks for the final 2. Finally, I do believe that Xavier is a good winner overall, but it felt like a lot of his win just fell into his lap from other houseguests making poor individual gameplay decisions, including Tiffany and Kyland. The final three of the season was just really goofy to me.
Also, I know the Cookout is not racist, per se, but I think a lot of people interpret "racism" differently and are going to look at this season the wrong way. I fear that now that an alliance based on skin color and racial backgrounds has essentially become the most dominant alliance in BB history, subsequent seasons of the show will try to make decisions that will prevent a repeat alliance from succeeding in the same fashion, leading to even greater levels of racism in the future. It almost makes me feel like the show needs to be abolished.
@@DVal-bl7hm I agree. That’s the thing that pissed me off all season. Now that the cookout exists it’s going to be a lot worse off racial wise as players now know this strategy is a possibility being in play especially if they do any other seasons like this. So good job bb you made the show more racist by trying to do the opposite. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It’s a fundamental rule of life
Larry don't kid yourself about what you're mad about the CO. The game has always been dominated by a racialized alliance. Its just been a white alliance and white ppl are used to being the primary race in groups so they don't have to discuss it.
Racism is not up to individual interpretation. Its the systemic oppression of marginalized people. Racism doesn't happen to people have the sytemic advantage ( White people as race was literally created to put them on top during colonization and that white supremacy persists).
@@cutiepiemania45 Of course in previous seasons the alliances were mostly white, the house has been 70% white for the entire show's history.
The CO sets the stage for racial groups in diverse casts to stick together, and that's a bad thing. future bb will be race wars.
@@cutiepiemania45 Bingo. People who don't understand why the Cookout had to exist really lack empathy. Did people fear that young White guys would always stick together after the Brigade steamrolled BB12??? No? So ask yourself why you have this fear now that a Black person has finally won
All , i ever heard was "PREVIOUSLY ON BIG BROTHER - THE COOKOUT, THE COOKOUT , THE COOKOUT ECT: "
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Kyland's blindside is going to go down as one of the most salty and bitter of all time. It was just a wild moment and Kyland is going to be dealing with it for a long time
I also have BB23 ranked at 13th among the BBUS seasons!
I absolutely loved the cast. And the pre-jury was some of my favorite Big Brother in a while. But a dominant alliance sticking together and making Final 6 hurts this season, just as it would hurt any other season. I loved the Cookout members and greatly appreciated their game being for a cause. But it was also super frustrating seeing Tiffany actively choose a lesser route for her game. I can only imagine how much more entertaining the season is if Tiff sticks with The Detectives rather than switching to die-hard loyalty for the Cookout.
This hurts the season quite a bit for me. As it was not only predictable, but I also had to watch somebody willingly play a lesser game than they could have played. It leads to a lot of conflict towards my feelings on the season.
On my personal rankings, I actually have it at 13th directly after BB12. And the reason being that BB12’s Brigade made a move against one another at a point. Watching Hayden go after Matt because it bettered his game helps BB12 edge out BB23 for me.
A solid season nonetheless, though!
Cookout kinda sucks to watch. They aren't bad people or competitors but it's like a game of tug of war when the other side only gets to send out one player at a time. Also not a big fan of the racial stuff this season, it feels counterproductive for what they were going for. Low tier season, not very fun to watch, but the cast is pretty good, if boring strategy-wise.
I think production needs to throw in twist against whichever group is clearly ahead so things stay crazy dont let anyone feel safe
This was one of my favorite casts of all time! So even though the gameplay was kind of predictable it was made much more palatable by genuinely enjoying (most of) the people making the moves. Agreed that the Cookout making final 6 together was the climax of the season. It was definitely impressive and even cathartic to see it come to fruition and see them realize their mission. Not sure where it ranks overall but definitely mid-high tier for me. And yes looking forward to CBB3 this winter!
Honestly this season became boring the farther the farther the cookout went. I am glad we got a black winner and a lot of black people going far but I quit watching with Claire's elimination because that legit made me realize everything was predictable and made me mad. I loved the season and loved the cookout, but I wanted it destroyed by having them have to have to put one of their members up at least once.
They was dominant
I loved this season, I know it was predictable but sometimes you just want a good show and they delivered that this year better than I’ve ever seen.
it wasn't a good show though and that was the problem sadly
This is a perfect 6/10 season.
The cast is pretty likable for the majority of the season and it had some fun moments, even if the twists fell aside and some of the gameplay became very predictable with an obvious winner. But I can't say Xavier wasn't on the edge multiple times early on.
I really wanted Claire to win fan favorite but Tiffany winning was still very satisfying. She was a really smart player and I was so sad when she got evicted. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring her back for another season.
@Certified Cunt I just really liked her. That's it. Tiffany is more deserving though.
I was completely shocked that dx didn't win by like a 90% landslide. He was one of the most likable houseguests I've seen in a long time. Definitely didn't think it would be tiff to win
The season was wayyy to political for me. I 100% agree with the movement of BLM. But it just didn’t feel like big brother. Hardley any backstabs, no episode like stood out to me like “wow that just changed the game!” There was also no battle back which gets me to think that CBS just wanted nobody to screw up the cookout. I watched it all the way to final 6 and I just got incredibly bored. There was less talk about game and more talk about “we did it, we’re going to have a first black winner”. I have no issue with someone black winning but don’t deny, the show repeatingly mentioning it got very old. Especially for someone who binged the show instead of watching every Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday.
I noticed, Peridiam, you say in the video that producers have made casting decisions that might have been racially motivated. And I think you’re exactly right, from a political standpoint, this alliance dominance needed to happen to make up for those actions made by CBS. My point is, that it was unbearably boring to watch
I actually loved this season though predictable I was intrigued each week how things would play out. To be fair I did sort of stop watching toward the end but that’s because I was bitter! I loved Tiffany and Hannah so much and for both to go out at once I never even bothered watching to DE. The only reason I watched another episode before the finale was Ky’s exit. This season was great but it hurt to see good players go out way too early, watching Tiff betray her own game for the cookout hurt. Derek X, Claire, Tiff, and Hannah all should have gotten better placements. I didn’t mind Xavier won he’s one of the better winners but to win against big D… he could have done better. The worst part honestly was the episode editing… there are so many parts skipped or twisted it was a different show than what live feeds showed. Overall top 10 seasons for me but it was extremely frustrating most of the time.
As dominating as this season was with the cook out... the early boots just played horrible and the boot order was so predictable that it made for such a boring season 😴 😑 😒 🙄
Lets GOOOOO!!!!
I'm sure this will be a banger peridam!
“I started to lose it and saw Big D as a mastermind” nah I’m weak 😂😂😂
What changed is they finally cast black players that were GOOD PLAYERS. Sorry, but players like Day, Swaggy C and Baliegh make for interesting TV but they have 0 and I mean 0 chance of winning.
Don’t forget dum dum David lol
@@sevenup8871 True...but I left him off, because he wasn't even entertaining drama.
I dislike when they put the houseguests into groups from the beginning. Once the groups are removed and no longer keeping each other safe, they all still stick together for the most part and it just makes it kind of boring.
I think it could be interesting if they (the producers) picked peole to be an alliance/group and the houseguests found out who their group members were while in the diary room and the goal was to stay a group the longest without telling anyone or any of your group getting vetoed out. They could even do it with 2 groups of 5 and the remaining houseguests are not put into a planned group and have no idea it's even happening.
I'm going to be completely honest. I didn't like the cookout, and I wish they were just until jury. BEFORE YOU COME AFTER ME WITH PITCHFORKS, HEAR ME OUT.
1. I totally respect and understand why they were formed and yes, what they did was amazing and completely deserved.
2. With that said. Why couldn't the cookout just have dissolved come jury?! We probably would've had a ton more drama and a lot more strategy, and honestly we would've likely ended up with a final four of Tiff, Chaddah, Claire and DX (Tiff 99% wins here, which honestly I think is a much better outcome than what we got.)
3. The other thing is that no other player in the house could ever voice any real suspicions they had about the cookout because they knew that people would want their heads on a platter if they did so. To me, that's just kind of unfair.
4. KEEP IN MIND THAT I COMPLETELY RESPECT AND AM HAPPY FOR THE COOKOUT, THEY 10000% DESERVED THEIR VICTORY (except maybe DF, he was kind of just there...)
But Claire and DX literally discussed the possibility of the alliance and no one came at their necks lol. That’s just a bad assumption even though based off past seasons the black players were automatically assumed to have some sort of deal and thus got targeted together.
@@Jakeexmvs Right but did they ever actually seriously consider it outside of joking? (Honestly they might've, I don't remember)
@@jonathan536 based off their post interviews they did say they did believe in the speculation that Tiffany Hannah Kyland and Xavier had some sort of 4 deal they just never thought of Azah and Big D
All Tiff would've had to do is get Claire to use her Coin HoH as a excuse to take out Xavier. Would be one of the GOAT moves and kick off a killer endgame.
2. tiff doesn't make final two in that scenario. Clair and DX take each other.
For me, the problem of this season is that people were not doing things for their best interest and playing for themselves to win. They were playing for a “group” of people to win instead of the selfish narrative the reality tv usually brings because there is only one winner, and usually people want to win, but this season the alliance did not care who won. Just as long as one of them won they were all happy. And that just makes it very very boring for me to watch
Replace group with race
Peridiam, that monologue from 17:30 to 18:40ish honestly changed my prospective of this season. Still didn’t like the season but honestly CBS is the real villains. From BB15, 19, 21 & 22 new age BB really underwhelms
Peridiam, you got it on the mark when you said they need to change up the competitions! The HGs have gotten too good at figuring out when certain competitions are going to happen. I wouldn’t mind seeing more mental and skill-based competitions, especially in the Veto competitions. I don’t mind the spelling competition that some seasons have had, but what about a cryptogram competition where they have to decode a message or series of messages with no hints at all? I’m just throwing out ideas here.
They need to dump the wall comp completely. No one should be able to tell that someone can not win a specific comp before it even happens and we all know that when we see the wall! The physical nature of the comps has increased a lot the past few seasons.
For this supposed new era this season was a letdown. I love the diversity and the cast but the gameplay was stagnant. BB has to do something to fix the big alliances just dominating. Three seasons in a row that I haven’t liked modern BB has been a letdown outside of 17 and 20 and even 20 got weak around the end.
They was dominant that’s why you say it’s boring
sorry, but who is the 1 out of the 20 previous black houseguests from s14-22 that made it more than halfway? just curious.
David on BB22
@@Peridiam noted, although he barely made it halfway.
Danielle Lickey over the top.
Survivor 41, while still the same game, HAS CHANGED and it’s been gooooood. Big Brother needs some of that survivor time off to realize that it’s time to change up the formula. Til then, it likely won’t get any better...
It has to be in the bottom-middle for me. While we are promised a new era for the game, the only thing that was new was the cast demographics- something that was mandated by the network itself. Everything else is just the same old story. Same comps, same house breakdown, the same twists flopping over helping to destroy what could have been a very interesting season.
The CookOut, while dominant, did have its fair share of criticism, mainly around the reasoning why it was formed- to crown the show's first black winner. While you can agree or disagree with that reasoning, it doesn't matter. What matters is the simplified version. The alliance was formed so that a person of a particular race wins. It was an intentional race-based alliance. It was an alliance set to make sure a person of a particular race wins. During the season, a discussion came up on a DX vs. DF final 2. Would the CO still be respected if all members voted for DF to win just to make history? I say that the CO got lucky that the season's winner is a respectable and solid player.
That being said, it is just a regular big brother season with just a different coat of paint on it. Nothing really changed. Big alliance still dominated, twists flopped, same old competitions.... are we really in a new era?
You mad?
Shauntraniese Taylor he’s veryyyy
@@shauntraniesetaylor6435 Why? His opinion was written very friendly
@@GLBizzie because people care more about a “race-based” alliance than the fact that in 23 years there’s only been 1 black winner
@@shauntraniesetaylor6435 and let's not forget that casting was a major problem here. Not exactly a lot of POC HGs prior to BB23 and in reference to the black HGs, are often cast in a stereotypical fashion .
i’ll ask it again. why is tiffany considered a mastermind? the strategy she “created” was already used by the brigade in bb12
I consider her a mastermind because she MANAGED to do it. Other alliances (that may or may not be called the regulators) had attempted this and failed, as had Foutte.
The ability to SUCCESSFULLY DO IT is what makes her a mastermind to me
One of the top tier seasons of Big brother franchise 👏🏻
BB23 is the one and only counter to my mindset of “reality TV is only interesting if people are a little mean to each other”
Because it was extremely friendly and cuddly with like 2 moments of legitimate personal conflict and yet I still found it really engaging
I found this cast super UPLIFTING, and I loved to see that the Cookout was final 6
@@SchmergDergen You’re absolutely right I loved it, maybe turn your blinders off and realize it was about getting our first ever black winner in over 20 years; it was not about getting white houseguests out. If you do not understand that, maybe do some self reflection and address your own implicit biases.
@@SchmergDergen 🙌
Let’s go Peridiam! Love the vids! Keep it up!
IDC who’s in the alliance, or what the alliance is for, I always for some reason am NOT cheering on the most powerful alliance in the season.
Things are more entertaining when shit goes wrong and stuff falls apart, but this season didn’t have that, and for that reason, it wasn’t that fun to watch.
I think we're being too hard on the season. A lot of coments are basically "the cast was likable but the gameplay was boring", which to me sells it really short. Bullet points:
-The Cookout was the dominant alliance, but a fascinating one. They weren't white people coming together out of commonality and feeling high and mighty about their gameplay. but a complex web of relationships that didn't necesarily agree or see eye to eye everytime.
-Everyone in the cast brought something to the table, and most left an actual mark on the gameplay by winning a competition that changed course. More than any other season, this really felt like a cast or a group, not just people living together (altought fuck the sexism that came out during the first and last weeks).
-The worst recurring problem of 23 is how the target was locked after the veto ceremony. This makes the current week feel like a drag, but the players were already thinking about next week, they weren't sitting still and waiting till thursday.
-There weren't confrontations, but it had levity and emotions baked into each and every week. If you want fights, there are plenty on season 15 and 19 for you to enjoy.
-Tiffany (and to an extent Hannah) leaving hurt the endgame, but it kind of took a turn as being unfair. Tiffany was amazing to watch (really deserved AFP), but as a player, you have to get her out. Ky pulled the trigger too early, but for Azah, Derek and Xavier was what made the most sense. To be mad at them for evicting her is ridiculous.
Overall, i think this a top 10 season, and by far the best in the last few years. It would have been cool for the CO to be pressed harder, or for Tiff to take it home, but it gave memorable houseguests, interesting and complicated gameplay, more diversity than ever, and a historic run and win.
We have to stop lumping Hannah in with Tiffany just because she was Tiff's sidekick. Tiff carried Hannah and the majority of Hannah's game relied heavily on Tiffany's social game. Hannah was pretty forgettable in terms of actual gameplay. She didn't do much besides help Tiff strategize.
Anyone see Derek and Claire started dating, it surprised me
Say what?!?!
They are nice people, good for them
@@shootermanplus1812 I know, another great thing that came from this season
Expect the Unexpected.
@@MusicRemedy105 They announced it on Instagram yesterday. Cute couple! 😃
Hot take- this cast is hella overrated. Claire, Alyssa, Hannah, Azah and Big D are just sheep. Tiff & X underwhelmed imo. Scrap this cast no one except maybe Tiff and DX should get a second chance.
😒
Dx is trash at the game
Just wanna say I enjoyed the "Yatus" reference at the end. Great vid as always.
The invisible HOH was BBCAN’s idea which was implemented far better than what we saw on BB23
Made me 😭 Tks for putting this together!!!
The cookout making final 6 was the finale for me because afterwards it became so hard to watch tiff lose the win
that's just a casual mindset
I agree
Hmmm tiff lost the win well before the final 6. The second she came up with the “master plan” is when she lost the game because the master plan was really hand Xavier the win plan. She literally went to the end with 4 people who hated her or didn’t not respect her instead of going to the end and winning with people like Derek X, Claire, Hannah, Christian, Alyssa. If that was the final 6 Tiffany has the win in the bag and we get a great season with a great winner but instead Tiffany was hellbent on throwing her game away and ruining the season
@@larrythecableman6963 no it. her plan was to go to final 4 with Xavier hannah Kyland. these people like each other. ky and X take each other out at final 4.(this actually happened.) one guy with hannah and tiffany. They both take tiff. She basically got caught trying to turn the guys against each other. then had one of the worst hoh weeks at final 8.
@@gqprince2 no lmao. Maybe if she didn’t already throw her game in the trash before that. The second she won that hoh she wasn’t supposed to her game was over. And she has said in interview that if she could go back and change that and she said she always would’ve won that hoh so that means she always loses. Also x would always take Hannah over her and x still would’ve won the game lmaoo
Its my second least favorite season after 19, but Im glad you liked it!
Honestly, outside of the cast and the pre jury, I can only place it in low mid tier because of just how much everything was the same.
Recycled comps
Recycled dominant alliance
Recycled twists
Predictable Jury
Disappointing Double
Boring Finale
Predictable Winner
And just everything else. I cannot believe they have the audacity to say “It’s a new era” and shove “First African American winner” in our faces for the last 3rd of the game. It’s really big propaganda signals showing that nothing has really changed.
It didn’t help that the most loved people were evicted earlier and Kyland and Derek F overstayed their welcome by too much. Seriously, the most disappointing thing about this season is rewarding a player who did absolutely nothing, and won 75k. AND ON TOP OF THAT, not take any accountability.
I think the whole drama between an all black alliance is ridiculous on Facebook, but if there’s a counter argument to be made, or two tbh. Is that
1. TAMAR WAS FIRST AND NO ONE BOTHERED TO MENTION HER.
2. Making an alliance purely because of race is just… not right in general, even if their motives are justified. Race should never become such a huge factor in making alliances, seasons, nominations, or anything else on Big Brother. It only causes controversy, especially when The Cookout’s main purpose was to do just that. It’s kind of like forcing history to happen, and I only worry that future seasons will mimic the formula and just cause even more controversy…
That being said, Xavier did deserve to win even outside of The Cookout’s purpose.
So many things were improved from what the previous 2 seasons did, and it’s a step in the right direction, but there’s still more to be done
Good overall post. I feel like guaranteed if they ever did this with any other race it would go the same way and again it would be perfectly justified and boring to watch lol
@@HeavyMetal-jy4vj I do like to note that statistically African Americans have done worse (excluding this season) however they are the most represented minority group despite Hispanics and Latinos being a larger percentage of the US population.
Then again, Latinos from the few statistics they have, have done at least slightly better. While Asian Americans… well let’s just let Jun take the spotlight for that :/
@@RoyalKingOliver uh Kaycee?
@@Jakeexmvs Is she Latino? I never knew if she was or not
@@RoyalKingOliver she’s Asian lol and half white
They should implement a really crazy twist....no twist, hint at it all season long, tease it, make them think its going to be something crazy that is insane, but never drop it. Get the hamster's on edge, make them paranoid. Drive them nuts. That is how to make Big Brother good again.
this cast had so much potential, only for it to just be so... plain. that's really the only word I got for it
about the best i can give this season is a 6/10 on its best day. on its worst day its struggling for a 2/10. mid-low tier season for sure, probably around the 15-19 mark. the cast was good, and the strategy was intelligent and well played. thats honestly the main problem with this season. this cast was TOO smart. the best parts of big brother in my opinion are the fights, the drama, the crazy flips and crazy noms that are SOOOO against certain ppls best interests. the problem with this season was there was nobody besides frenchie on this cast who had ANY pension for drama or chaos. literally the whole cast was content with drifting along until the only natural conclusion came. there were no big moves that matter as the final 6 were all playing for a common goal and their power was never questioned throughout the season and everyone else below them simply didnt have the information needed to strike a rebellion. everything was extremely predictable and bland at the end of the day. a lot of ppl predicted the winner preseason, and even more predicted him after the first few episodes. the contestants went out basically like the season did, a small sigh of acceptance. i remember how everyone preseason was praising the ppl on this cast for being the smartest and biggest superfan cast ever. now i realize that in big brother, smart+superfan=boring. petition for the next cast to be the dumbest and most clueless group of individuals weve ever seen on this show. all jokes aside this season went downhill fast as soon as the only problematic characters on the show left. my best comparison would be similar to survivor game changers. as soon as all the big names (chaos wise) went out, it just became a bunch of snoozefest players playing optimal big brother. not entertaining. hoping for more chaotic and fun big brother in the future.
Am I the only one who was in two minds about the Cookout? I really really don't like majority alliances at all no matter who is in them, but I can still appreciate what the CO stands for and accomplished.
This had to be the most pathetic season ever it's truly sad that CBS had to rig something that anyone of any color could win
Big D ultimately ruined the season for me and I don’t know how I can’t give it anything more than a 4/10. Some great moments and some great cast members that I hope to see play the game again, but this season was more annoying than dramatic.
Also, the cast size needs to decrease. Big teams kill the season sometimes.
the best big brother twist would be if u work with anyone u get expelled from the game it would straight ruin every attempt for big alliances to be a thing and lets be real watching people try and work together and then get expelled would be hilarious
I'm curious about something. You even included the season in your ranking with OTT and CBB. Where do those seasons rank for you though? And more importantly where are the Survivor season rankings?
Ok, personal opinion here, but they probably won’t ever get rid of some of the ‘staple’ comps, Otev, the ‘which comp was this’ based off description one, the wall comp, etc. Just because they are things the audience recognizes. And obviously they never will stop with the twists.
I know it’s a slim chance but it’d be really cool if America got to decide stuff. Not play favorites but like, which comps are this week? Or at least like pick the HOH comp? Idk. Another slim chance but Pre Season I wish we got to vote on like which powers or twist would be that season. Not how it’s used or on who, but yeah. Maybe the extra vote or cancel a vote from survivor would be cool? Maybe you can upon completion of weird stuff like putting flour on someone in the shower or have a water balloon fight, get the ability to remove someone from the upcoming Veto (Not the noms, and not the HOH comp because that’s no fair). But yeah like stated the ability to add/subtract from the total prize pool would be huge.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE EVERYONE BE IS UNITARDS FOR A WHOLE WEEK AND THEN THE VETO/HOH IS THE WAL COMP?? LIKE COME ON.
Dx targeting Christian wasn't because of the co he made that decision on his own even when many of the co members didn't even want that to happen!
At the end of the day, this is a tv show built for entertainment. I love strategy, I love cutthroat gameplay, I love blindsides and twists and turns. This season obviously didn’t give us much of that.
But it gave me more, in my opinion. I adored this cast, they’re my favorite cast by a long shot. 3 people skyrocketed to the top of my favorite players list by mid-season and multiple others are in my top 10-20.
Although the game was dominated by the cookout, it didn’t feel like a regular steam roll to me. For the majority of the season they did not dominate competitions the way alliances like the committee did. No one outside of the committee (well, I guess enzo. but he was committee adjacent) won an HOH & only 2 non committee members won a POV. That is not at all how this season went.
Minus maybe the majority of pre-jury evictions - these people came to PLAY. This wasn’t a grou of stereotypical Instagram model/personal trainer recruits who’ve never seen the show & only came so they could make a career selling flat tummy tea. They all wanted it so bad. There was almost always game talk happening on live feeds.
I feel like the season keeps being rated low because the Cookout dominated. I understand where this idea is coming from, but we have to remember that every single person in the cookout said they would’ve aligned with other people & played totally different without the CO.
Basically, if I had the choice between a lovable, amazing, smart cast and the first black winner of big brother - or a season that was intense, strategic, had me on my toes but the cast was unlikable & dumb… I’d pick the first.
This is not a season I will rewatch - I skipped a good 1/4 of them episodes anyways. But it will likely be my favorite season because as a fan & a live feeder I loved loved loved every minute of it (ok, not every minute. But most of them)
Actually Derek F and Kyland were recruits. Derek F had never watched a full season and didn't know how the final 4 worked. Derek F admitted in his final speech that he came to get famous.
@@kathyharris1627 Well Kyland had seen the show before, he referenced old players, comps etc frequently. Derek X was a recruit, Derek F was. More than just that but most of the people there weren’t & my whole point was it wasn’t a “*group* of stereotypical Instagram model/person trainer” type of recruit. Usually the show just casts people that are good to look at. And my other point was that they were all there to play & to win not just for Instagram clout. They were much more authentic & smart.
If they dont get Tiffany Pollard and/or Trisha Paytas on cbb3 i will riot LMAO
The only redeeming factor about this season was that they weren't all total assholes to the people they were voting out, unlike other terrible seasons such as 19.
Season 19 had more awful ppl but at least it had a good finale where the underdog wins and Cody got afp
3rd worst ever behind 19 and 22. This is one of those seasons that people will rate higher now because they thought the cast was full of nice people, but a year from now when you are looking to rewatch it you will realize how much of a slog it becomes past week 1. No drama outside of week 1 and kylands exit (and even that, no yelling drama at all), no fun strategy in the post jury (and no really fun big moves at all). Its just not a fun season that i would ever go out of my way to watch. I think its literally the least drama filled season of all time and thats just so boring to me.
But people want to rate it higher than they should because of diversity in the cast, a good strategy and a strong black winner, and thats super duper and all...............but ask how many survivor fans go back to watch survivor 14. And i would rewatch that season of survivor long before i watched BB23 again.
i also worry that, now that teaming up and voting based on race is 100% a confirmed and allowed strategy .....well you cant put that genie back in the bottle. What happens when a white player puts two black players up and says "gotta be weary of cookout 2.0, because even if it hasnt formed it might"? Racial alliances are now going to be the new "all male/all female alliance" boogeyman, to be worried about every year and i dont feel good about that.
A little dramatic me thinks.
@@SchmergDergen you thought the entertaining people left pre-jury lmfao the only entertaining person that left pre-jury is Frenchie so that’s how I know your opinion is shit me thinks
@@SchmergDergen I’m talking about your comment that you called this an average cast bc you thought the entertaining people left pre-jury 🤡
@@SchmergDergen yeah, terrible shit take lmfao. No one gives a shit about watching shit gameplay, go watch The Challenge if you want drama. This game is about strategy.
@@SchmergDergen and you’re in the minority with that opinion.
Low tier from me, I knew exactly what was going to happen from like week 2. Only entertaining moment of the season was Kyland leaving and being a piece of shit about it.
Before season 23, 19 out of the past 20 black players were voted out early?!? YIKES 😬 I did not know that!
But a few of them stirred the pot too hard a few times. The first ever BB Houseguest was a black houseguest from 2000 and it was William to get voted off. But he was too honest for most people 🤣
19 out of 20 is an overstatement unless he's not including all of the seasons.
Ollie Season 10, David and Davonne Season 22, like that kind of isn’t true.
Getting sick of the same gameplay every season. US needs more bullshit Canadian twists 🤣 Purists might disagree but sorry no boring. Xavier was the only likable and good player in the cookout the rest are hella overrated and mind numbingly arrogant (not including Azah who was just plain useless.)
Predictable streak of seasons continues at 5. Bottom tier for me. Casting department needs to stop influencing their seasons heavily.
Xavier didn’t do nearly as much as y’all like to think he did
Xavier did a lot, Tiffany did more but her end-game strategy was horrific and she literally ruined her own game. Hannah is very overrated to say she was just Tiffany's sidekick and wasn't a competitive nor social threat, Azah and Big D were..just there to be carried and Kyland was a great competitor but delusional. Xavier had one of the best social games in the house next to Tiffany., except Xavier could actually keep relationships in his alliance.
@@SaidByTy I agree with you. But he was still a 'good player' by definition because he adapted to the situation and won. I don't include myself in this 'y'all' bracket you put me in so please take me out 🤣
@@mgm8075 this pretty much covers it. Mainly Xavier made everyone like and respect him enough to not feel dirty about rewarding him with money. The only potential bitterness ironically came from some cookout members.
Wow Claire and Derek dating wow
BB23 was the most racist and contrived season in BB history.
CBS tried so hard to make a black person win. A season or two before they had a white guy trying to lead the black players to a win. It was a disaster.
The only way they could force it was to make half the cast black and have them form an alliance based on skin color and then have them target the other players based on skin color. The very definition of racism.
I stopped watching the season when that happened and have not watched BB since.
I had quit the show once before after the season when Evil Dick won because he was disgusting. I didn't watch for several years, but did finally return. This season, BB23, ended my watching of BB forever.
If they went that far to rig the show for this purpose I know it will never be good again. Plus I don't trust them after seeing this kind of evil. It's an insult to black people that they felt they could only get a black winner by doing this. They should have just kept casting well chosen black players until they had a real black winner. It would have been organic and everyone would have been cheering. I would have loved that!
Oh my God for real LOL now I have to be in that damn montage
You're super right bro. Teams suck. Play independent and makes your own alliances. That's good social play and we watch to see a puppet master at work
Bro just join BB already and blow our minds with how good you are
It was a genius performance by Tiffany and the cookout, but one of the most boring seasons I have ever watched
I feel like this season was kind of a necessary evil. The mistreatment of minorities on Big Brother, specifically black contestants, basically forced the Cookout not to deviate from the alliance. The Cookout was bigger than each of their individual games and they were aware of that, and that caused them to play for the cause instead of for themselves. Extremely noble, but also makes for a pretty boring viewing experience on this kind of program. Hopefully, now that that glass ceiling of “first black winner” has been broken, we can see black houseguests, and really all houseguests who belong to a minority group, that are able to play individually as themselves and not feel pressured to play a certain way because of CBS’s crap decisions throughout the years.
Facts
They deserved an audience for the finale
Maybe they’ll do better about these alliances too
@@adriankalitka3762 I mean sure but y'know, the pandemic is still a thing
@@handsoaphandsoap Really???? I didn't know that. I appreciate you letting me know
i guess the main thing they could have been referring to with this being different to any other ssn was how cbs FINALLY updated their casting quota to have at least 50% pocs in the cast as opposed to fking 3 token poc players and 15 white ppl ngl LOL so that made me rlly happy to see the first EVER south asian (hannah) cast on the show.
I only started watching BB when Survivor went into hiatus. So I’ve only seen seasons 22 & 32. As much as I tried to enjoy the two seasons, they followed the same script. A dominant alliance formed and steamrolled the game. I’m not sure if I will be back for the next one.