For people new to the sport or unfamiliar with different events (like me), it would be very helpful if you included the distance at the beginning of these videos.
@maxtoll8290 Agreed!! I can get 6 arrows in a 4" diameter gold at 50 yards and that's with a proper Longbow, English Longbow. These are flatbows. If you can blow up my profile pic you will see my 52# Yew selfbow in use. Dave.
When I look at some competitions it seems clear that the level of coaching varies widely. These archers are talented enough and would benefit from proper instruction that many countries have.
The girl in the pink sweater is not talented at all. I was shooting better than her with a longbow 2-3 months after learning archery. Her form is very strange and inconsistent. Also both of them are squinting their left eye which is...strange. Seems they were coached for olympic barebow style.
As a long-time Longbowman, shooting with a 70 lbs yew bow, linen string and appropriately weighted arrows, I immediately noticed Alessia Milo's very dirty release that led to her defeat. Lena, despite using an under-nock grip, not exactly suited to a longbow, has a decidedly better posture and release. Well done Lena!
@@jasonrichardwatts Or has a nock point adjusted up. You can only take the latter so far, but with the length of actual longbows, it is not a problem. However, it was not a traditional with longbows, and became popular with the shorter ranges of 3D, most ethical modern hunting, and indoors. If you look at how Hill shot (not my measure of traditional, exactly, though US influential), he had the nocking point under the arrow allowing him to shoot very fast, compared to the stilted cycling of modern target shooters, but it would not have been adaptable to modern shooting styles. I actually use 3 nocking points! Times change.
Her release and a lot of other factors in her shot suggest that she is over-bowed. Notwithstanding left-off, on compounds, or low weights with trad bows, most shooters who do not have consistent results are actually over-bowed, and typically they don't realize it.
FYI from the World Archery rules on Longbows rulebook 4 22.5.7.1. An anchor plate or similar device attached to the finger protection (tab) for the purpose of anchoring is not permitted. The bow must be shot using the "Mediterranean" loose (one finger above the arrow nock) or fingers directly below the arrow nock (index finger no more than 2 mm below nock), with one fixed anchor point. The athlete must choose either Mediterranean or fingers under nock, but may not use both. Finger protection when shooting with fingers under the nock must have a continuous surface or connected surface, with no ability to shoot split finger. When using the Mediterranean loose, a separator between the fingers to prevent pinching the arrow may be used. So both types of finger placement are allowed. Your national archery rules may differ from the international rules in this regard 😊
For longbow the equipment and arrow tuning matter MUCH more than recurve barebow. If you think about it, it will dawn on you. So with the level playing field of ultra tunable bows (barebow/olympic recurve) it really does boil down to the archer. Like 'stock' car racing boils down to the driver. Just use logic and you will see why the other disciplines make a better forum for competition. I DID NOT say they are more FUN than shooting a longbow!
More impressive than you think this is actually archery no sights, no stabilizer, no mechanical release, no clicker. Even with a shelf like they are using everything depends on the archer not the equipment.
Alessia is gorgeous...but she needs more practice...or a new coach. The Mediterranian Style is not working for her. On her release, she has a strange twitch happening ?? Lena's 3 fingers under technique & Practice , is showing well in her shooting.
For god sake,stop using longbow as barebows... If you want to aim and shoot three under, shoot in barebow division... Longbows are made to shoot instinctive.
@@SomeGuyFromOK if you look,you will see that she aim with the point. Shooting three under help to do that. Thumb release and index release are different, some federations dont allow to use one or the other in the same category. And if almost every target compound archer use thumb release it's not by a conicidence... In my country, shooting a horse bow with thumb ring will make you considered as a compound shooter. But you can use a recurve in longbow category as long as the string doesnt touch the limbs at brace... The last rule that they invented is allowing face walking in longbow and hunting recurve division...
@@aliendoggy1 allowing point aiming and facewalking in trad bow division is dumb. Allowing reflex deflex in longbow division as long as the string dont touch the limbs is dumb... Limiting compound poundage is also dumb... They condider thumb ring as mechanical reseale ==> compound... The real problem is that people who make rules dont know and even less understand archery... There is a magazine on archery made by federation related to WA in my country, you can read thing like " there is no such thing like instictive archery, it doesnt exists. In fact, instictive archers have always an aiming point, they just refuse to say it or it's uncouscious..." It's people who think they are great experts because they are well paid thanks to subscriptions and they practice olympic archery ( wich is the only true archery). And they just continiously talk shit and take dumb decisions... The last thing was to rename "hunting parcours" in " nature parcours" , switch from 40 to 24 targets ( officially, it's to be more accessible, but in fact, it's to permit to make two starts on the same day and make people pay twice). And now,for the federation, bow is not a weapon anymore. It's a weapon if it's in camouflage (so it's forbidden in tournaments) or if you are hunting with it... My bows are now schizophrenic, in tournaments they are "sporting articles" and definitly not a weapon and the next morning on hunting session, they are weapons... Makes sens...
@@benji280792 They shoot the way they shoot because these bow are extremely lightweight. The up-right, aim with the arrow, chin anchor point (or any anchor point at all), one eye closed position (as well as the bow window) comes from the reinvention of archery as a formalized sport at the end of the Victorian era. The Olympic style of shooting is a direct inheritor of this style of archery. Despite the name that has pretty much nothing to do with traditional hunting or war archery, that's a sport with a set of rules ; rules that are made in order to make the competition as fair as possible. These kind of bows are no more weapons than the Olympic air pistols.
@@-fazik-3713 unfortunately , yes the scores are not so good. But iceland is a country were archery is probably not well developped. And bows are probably expensive and difficult to buy. Coaching is probably not well developped too. So its completly excusable. The essential thing is that they have fun. What makes me cringe is that they aim with tradbows, wich is a sacrilege for me...
Great competition... what's the distance, please?
For people new to the sport or unfamiliar with different events (like me), it would be very helpful if you included the distance at the beginning of these videos.
Very impressive. Not easy to shot accurately with just the bow, and the arrow. Most competitive archers have stabilizers, sights, and other aids.
Would be impressive at 40 yards. Not at 20
@maxtoll8290 Agreed!! I can get 6 arrows in a 4" diameter gold at 50 yards and that's with a proper Longbow, English Longbow. These are flatbows. If you can blow up my profile pic you will see my 52# Yew selfbow in use.
Dave.
Impressive at 20 too 🤍
@@maxtoll8290 I watch Olympic archers practice at 20 yards. It takes skill to place their arrows where they do, arrow after arrow, after arrow.
Pretty poor for 20 yards
Nice shooting from Lena, very quite
what longbow is she using ? seems fast and nice !
Longbow
@@forendetta8164 nope - these are flatbows.
@@doabarbell5748 They are reflex/deflex longbows. Flat bows are different.
@@mikestyles499 the question was "what trade is it ?" seems to be Big Tradition, perhaps a Samick 68", it depends the products exported to iceland !
What is the distance to the target??????????
Nice shooting. Lovely Archers.
When I look at some competitions it seems clear that the level of coaching varies widely. These archers are talented enough and would benefit from proper instruction that many countries have.
The girl in the pink sweater is not talented at all. I was shooting better than her with a longbow 2-3 months after learning archery. Her form is very strange and inconsistent. Also both of them are squinting their left eye which is...strange. Seems they were coached for olympic barebow style.
@@MrFreeGman there is no such thing as olympic barebow, lol.
@@Lost_Hwasal I'm not talking about Olympic events. I'm talking about style of bow.
@@MrFreeGman then why did you mention the olympics?
@@Lost_Hwasal It's called an Olympic recurve.
really nice scores for longbow ladys!) Congratz for finalist, pleasure to watch.
What is the target face - WA40cm?
504 some good scoring from Lena ))
60cm 😊
@@ArcheryTVIceland it is Portsmouth than!)
Beautiful match
As a long-time Longbowman, shooting with a 70 lbs yew bow, linen string and appropriately weighted arrows, I immediately noticed Alessia Milo's very dirty release that led to her defeat. Lena, despite using an under-nock grip, not exactly suited to a longbow, has a decidedly better posture and release. Well done Lena!
3 under release works tremendously on a longbow that is correctly tillered.
@@jasonrichardwatts Or has a nock point adjusted up. You can only take the latter so far, but with the length of actual longbows, it is not a problem. However, it was not a traditional with longbows, and became popular with the shorter ranges of 3D, most ethical modern hunting, and indoors. If you look at how Hill shot (not my measure of traditional, exactly, though US influential), he had the nocking point under the arrow allowing him to shoot very fast, compared to the stilted cycling of modern target shooters, but it would not have been adaptable to modern shooting styles. I actually use 3 nocking points! Times change.
Her release and a lot of other factors in her shot suggest that she is over-bowed. Notwithstanding left-off, on compounds, or low weights with trad bows, most shooters who do not have consistent results are actually over-bowed, and typically they don't realize it.
Distanc?
Hi, I Shootings longbow in germany. Which distances do you shoot in and outdoor on which target sizes?
30m at a 122cm target face. A common distance and target face size for longbows and instinctive in the Nordic countries 😊
@@ArcheryTVIceland in Germany we have indoor 18m/60cm and outdoor 50m/122cm, 40m/122cm, 30m/80cm, 20m/80cm for longbow
What distance?
Very nice. Just found this.
Great
Lena very good talent. Extremly cute omg 🥰😋🫣🫢😲
Why are they using gloves instead of tabs?
Longbow is always shot with Mediterranean grip. Why does the shooter on the right shoot under three fingers?????
FYI from the World Archery rules on Longbows rulebook 4
22.5.7.1.
An anchor plate or similar device attached to the finger protection (tab) for the purpose of anchoring is not permitted. The bow must be shot using the "Mediterranean" loose (one finger above the arrow nock) or fingers directly below the arrow nock (index finger no more than 2 mm below nock), with one fixed anchor point. The athlete must choose either Mediterranean or fingers under nock, but may not use both. Finger protection when shooting with fingers under the nock must have a continuous surface or connected surface, with no ability to shoot split finger. When using the Mediterranean loose, a separator between the fingers to prevent pinching the arrow may be used.
So both types of finger placement are allowed. Your national archery rules may differ from the international rules in this regard 😊
The outcome was clear from the start honestly. Milo's form was all over the place and her release dirty.
Lena is a beautiful
Yes girl on left has no T form and twist the string plucking.right great form and release.
Alesia is so ridiculously pretty !
Check the meaning of ridiculous in a dictionary.
Alessia has a very inconsistent release. It's all over the place every shot. I'd bet if she sorted that out her scores would soar.
For longbow the equipment and arrow tuning matter MUCH more than recurve barebow. If you think about it, it will dawn on you. So with the level playing field of ultra tunable bows (barebow/olympic recurve) it really does boil down to the archer. Like 'stock' car racing boils down to the driver. Just use logic and you will see why the other disciplines make a better forum for competition. I DID NOT say they are more FUN than shooting a longbow!
More impressive than you think this is actually archery no sights, no stabilizer, no mechanical release, no clicker. Even with a shelf like they are using everything depends on the archer not the equipment.
Alessia is gorgeous...but she needs more practice...or a new coach. The Mediterranian Style is not working for her. On her release, she has a strange twitch happening ??
Lena's 3 fingers under technique & Practice , is showing well in her shooting.
18 meters
Pink sweater has target panic, poor thing was shaking.
The girl in pink is rather gorgeous and that's all that matters. Every shot of hers was a ten because she's a ten. Way to go!
The other girl is prettier lol
😂
look very low draw weight bows
gut lösen schaut anders aus
For god sake,stop using longbow as barebows...
If you want to aim and shoot three under, shoot in barebow division...
Longbows are made to shoot instinctive.
3 under doesn’t mean she’s not shooting instinctive. That’s like saying an index release is any different than a thumb release with compounds.
@@SomeGuyFromOK if you look,you will see that she aim with the point. Shooting three under help to do that.
Thumb release and index release are different, some federations dont allow to use one or the other in the same category. And if almost every target compound archer use thumb release it's not by a conicidence...
In my country, shooting a horse bow with thumb ring will make you considered as a compound shooter. But you can use a recurve in longbow category as long as the string doesnt touch the limbs at brace... The last rule that they invented is allowing face walking in longbow and hunting recurve division...
@@benji280792 put a horse bow and compound in the same category is dumb!
@@aliendoggy1 allowing point aiming and facewalking in trad bow division is dumb.
Allowing reflex deflex in longbow division as long as the string dont touch the limbs is dumb...
Limiting compound poundage is also dumb...
They condider thumb ring as mechanical reseale ==> compound...
The real problem is that people who make rules dont know and even less understand archery...
There is a magazine on archery made by federation related to WA in my country, you can read thing like " there is no such thing like instictive archery, it doesnt exists. In fact, instictive archers have always an aiming point, they just refuse to say it or it's uncouscious..."
It's people who think they are great experts because they are well paid thanks to subscriptions and they practice olympic archery ( wich is the only true archery). And they just continiously talk shit and take dumb decisions...
The last thing was to rename "hunting parcours" in " nature parcours" , switch from 40 to 24 targets ( officially, it's to be more accessible, but in fact, it's to permit to make two starts on the same day and make people pay twice). And now,for the federation, bow is not a weapon anymore. It's a weapon if it's in camouflage (so it's forbidden in tournaments) or if you are hunting with it...
My bows are now schizophrenic, in tournaments they are "sporting articles" and definitly not a weapon and the next morning on hunting session, they are weapons... Makes sens...
@@benji280792 They shoot the way they shoot because these bow are extremely lightweight.
The up-right, aim with the arrow, chin anchor point (or any anchor point at all), one eye closed position (as well as the bow window) comes from the reinvention of archery as a formalized sport at the end of the Victorian era. The Olympic style of shooting is a direct inheritor of this style of archery.
Despite the name that has pretty much nothing to do with traditional hunting or war archery, that's a sport with a set of rules ; rules that are made in order to make the competition as fair as possible. These kind of bows are no more weapons than the Olympic air pistols.
the trajectory of arrows suggest it is no more than 20 meters. if that is true. This does not look impressive
Iceland has less than 400k people and this obviously a beginner competition with all sorts of random bow types.
Buddy it get old reading comments where people criticize other. There are too many archery snobs on the internet.
@@Skenderbeuismyhero "Icelandic Championship Indoor 2023!" is a beginner competition? :P
@@-fazik-3713 this section obviously was, if this is the caliber of contestants.
@@-fazik-3713 unfortunately , yes the scores are not so good.
But iceland is a country were archery is probably not well developped. And bows are probably expensive and difficult to buy.
Coaching is probably not well developped too. So its completly excusable.
The essential thing is that they have fun.
What makes me cringe is that they aim with tradbows, wich is a sacrilege for me...