EXCELLENT announcing!! Quiet voices, can hear bow release;staying current with shots[comments] good job guys..Clair Xie killin it!! I shoot 50lb recurve.center shot ..I stand in awe of this womans shooting ability!
Not trying to start something, but I know a question like this can easily ignite, but I'm curious why archery has a mens and womens division. These women are more than capable to compete with the men and vice versa, and I think it would create a much more dynamic competition
Men and women do compete together, but realistically at the higher levels of barebow there is a notable difference in scores. It does take a certain amount of strength, bone structure, and endurance to draw and hold a recurve bow steady. I would like to point you to USA 2020 indoor finals which had no women, Vegas 2020 top barebow flight only had 2 women, or pull up World Archery Indoor World series and compare the top women's and men's barebow scores. If we want to encourage young women to participate more in archery they need female role models and an opportunity to feel successful, which is hard to find if the podiums are dominated by men.
Men tend to have higher draw weights than women on average. Higher draw weights means more energy into the arrow, and higher arrow speeds, which decreases the effect wind conditions have on the arrow. If we assume that all other things being equal (the form remains exactly the same between each shot), a male archer will have a higher degree of precision when the wind is factored into the shot than a female archer. The draw weight range for women is 40-48 pounds and for men it is 45-55 pounds.
If you use statistics, average out the top 100 men archery in the world or America & average out the top 100 women in the world or just America, there’s still a consistent difference between men & women. Higher pound draw ability offer a tiny advantage, in theory. At the elite level where 1 point spread is enough to win, that 50lb men draw vs 45lb women draw is an “advantage”. For the rest of us common mortals, the lowest national ranked -anyone- can kick our butts! 😂 Your asked the question others have asked.
I'll be honest with you, it is actually suppose to be okay. Archery is one of, if not, the most gender neutral sport. People are just stoopid cuz they think this sport requires strength from the draw weight of the bow. There's this thing called "adjusting". Women are known to be smarter and more adjusting than men so yeah, they could've
This is archery the way it was meant to be. "Recurve" is ok, but all the tripod stabilizers, sights, and nick-nack-patty-whacks are getting to be a bit much. Plus, when the crowd moans if an archer gets an "8"... It's time to strip the bow of paraphernalia. Let's be honest, it's not a rifle.
And let’s just burn all compound bows while we’re at it...I get it, you like to see archery done in a more pure form. There’s nothing wrong with that. But to say that barebow is the way archery is “meant to be” is just wrong. I shoot Olympic Recurve and can tell you that our accessories help us, but by no means make us shoot like a rifle or have perfect precision. They only help to raise the level of competition. To think archery should only be as basic as possible is just ridiculous
@@cameronsenay882 My First bow was a longbow. My Second bow was a Compound. My Third bow was an 'olympic Style', complete with clickers, sights, stabilizer, and all the gunk. My Current bow is a recurve with *a string* . Much Better Now. And yes, the junk hanging off bows these days is not Archery its purist form. Far from it. It doesn't make anyone more competitive. It can't, because everyone has the same junk hanging off their bows too. Crossbow anyone? That's not more competitive, right? *It's the Archer who is the competitor, not the equipment.* And yes, barebow is the way archery was meant to be. The first selfbow was a bow and string. All these millennia later: barebow is a bow and string. So yes, it is an empirical reality that barebow is the true archery the way it was envisioned and implemented for centuries. (Only the materials have changed. Which is fine by me. I have wood AND magnesium bows. But it's Archery: no laser sights, no crossbows, no form-compensating dampers or stabilizers. And that's how true archery was, and thankfully, that's what it continues to be thanks to barebow and selfbow practitioners. [I still watch 'olympic style' recurve. But it sure would be more interesting if they stripped-off those gizmos. But then the Accessory Manufacturers would throw a tantrum] ;)
@@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 That’s all well and good but approaching archery with accessories as pieces of gunk is a logical fallacy. They do raise a level of competition. Otherwise Barebow scores and Olympic recurve scores would be far more similar on a top level. The technological advances have raised the capability to perform better alongside the human element. Again, they aren’t like rifles (although crossbows might as well be, and frankly I don’t consider that a form of archery). Think what you want, but claiming that additional parts on a bow is too “unpure” is just silly. There’s a reason the Olympics aren’t shot with stickbows. It wouldn’t be competitive or really that entertaining. All sports are going to modernize over time. And truly if you want archery in its “purest” form, you should despise the modern equipment barebow shooters use today.
@@HephyOnYT 70m is one of my permanent targets. It just takes practice man, if you dont put the time in you wont hit it. I can't hit it every time but can and have multiple times. Im sure if would be incredibly easier to do that with all the training wheels people use now. Also in a team competition the barebow scores generally dictate which team wins. The other competitors hit 9s-10s all day with all the enhancements they have on the bow while the barebow a 7 8 9 10 is all a good hit and the scores vary widely thus making it the more integral part of a team. So having a better archer with a barebow means more then getting a better modernized archer since no matter the skill at competition level the scores dont vary all that much comparatively.
What does barebow mean exactly? at 9:12 that looks like a sight just above her right thumb.. and the other competitor at 9:20 I don't see any sight, but on her bowstring it looks like she can guage by that orange wrap near the nock. Does this mean you're allowed to choose one point of sight, but not two?
That is not a sight. What you are looking at is the back side of a plunger. It is not even in the sight window and can't be used for aiming as it's on the wrong side of the bow. You aim by looking down the arrow. Barebow has a plunger & rest. No sights, stabilizers, clickers or draw checks of any kind.
Great stuff and impressive shooters! Anybody know about how much draw weight these competitors usually shoot? Is the draw weight their choice, or are there rules they have to stay within?
Technically 30 pounds is enough for barebow. As I recall it is only in compound that has a limit for draw weight which is 60 pounds but for recurve and barebow there is none.
@@antoniotolentino8118 Are you sure about that 30lb figure? My draw weight at the moment is 36lb, but there's no way in the world my arrows would thud into the target like that at 50m. Then again, no doubt the ladies are using arrows which are substantially thinner and lighter than mine. Maybe Christina would care to chime in with accurate info, since I've seen that she's active on this thread. C Lyons - how about it, dear heart? 😏
@@tiggertoo1962 Here I was 35lbs on the fingers. You can shoot with lower weight but accuracy becomes an issue with gap shooting. I believe Claire is about that or slightly higher as well. Most men shoot around lower 40s for this this and most drop their weight a little for indoor 18M.
The reason why it's not, and why weights and that are allowed, is ostensibly to allow people to shoot with less expensive bows. You can make a bow that's heavily weighted and the tiller is specifically set for string walking. It will be just an engineered as a modern bow, but it will look traditional. And, really, it'll all be an expensive illusion. This is more inclusive, allowing archers to shoot well with anything from a $200 bow to a $1500 bow.
In traditional shooting would rather rely on the shooter who hits their mark on the first shot. You need experience with your bow. You think your first perfect stock will be perfect every time? No.
EXCELLENT announcing!! Quiet voices, can hear bow release;staying current with shots[comments] good job guys..Clair Xie killin it!! I shoot 50lb recurve.center shot ..I stand in awe of this womans shooting ability!
Yep, world archery needs to take note...
@nomadarcher. Agreed on the excellent announcing. And they don't interview the shooters between sets of shots. Lancaster take note!
Service Doggo is the winner in our hearts.
Claire rocking the garden boots on the range...awesome
I could watch Claire Xie shoot all day.
Incredible performance on barebow shooting!congratulations!
Thanks for uploading! Great match!
Shout-out to my hometown from Osaka, Japan! Congrats Claire, great job, can't wait to start shooting again!
These ladies are awesome.
Incredible shooting by Claire at 50 meters.
My aunt name is claire
That's some really great barebow shooting on show.
Got damn! I'm starting to become a fan of Claire Xie. How do you even get a 10 or 9 in that weather condition??
And without all the tools!
Great match! Thank you!
50 meters?
Im learning my barebow anchoring and barely good shot at 20m. These people are incredible
I began barebow archery two months ago and already shoot 50 metre targets like these ladies.
Great job ladies especially in the wind
what kind of risers and limbs do they use?
My jaw dropped when seeing this skill.
18:14 "9 and then...wait... 6 ? no...9 and 11.... can you get 11 ? wait, you're not my Auntie Em... where are we ?.... what's this in my hand ??"
Not trying to start something, but I know a question like this can easily ignite, but I'm curious why archery has a mens and womens division. These women are more than capable to compete with the men and vice versa, and I think it would create a much more dynamic competition
Men and women do compete together, but realistically at the higher levels of barebow there is a notable difference in scores. It does take a certain amount of strength, bone structure, and endurance to draw and hold a recurve bow steady. I would like to point you to USA 2020 indoor finals which had no women, Vegas 2020 top barebow flight only had 2 women, or pull up World Archery Indoor World series and compare the top women's and men's barebow scores. If we want to encourage young women to participate more in archery they need female role models and an opportunity to feel successful, which is hard to find if the podiums are dominated by men.
Men tend to have higher draw weights than women on average. Higher draw weights means more energy into the arrow, and higher arrow speeds, which decreases the effect wind conditions have on the arrow. If we assume that all other things being equal (the form remains exactly the same between each shot), a male archer will have a higher degree of precision when the wind is factored into the shot than a female archer. The draw weight range for women is 40-48 pounds and for men it is 45-55 pounds.
If you use statistics, average out the top 100 men archery in the world or America & average out the top 100 women in the world or just America, there’s still a consistent difference between men & women. Higher pound draw ability offer a tiny advantage, in theory. At the elite level where 1 point spread is enough to win, that 50lb men draw vs 45lb women draw is an “advantage”.
For the rest of us common mortals, the lowest national ranked -anyone- can kick our butts! 😂
Your asked the question others have asked.
I'll be honest with you, it is actually suppose to be okay. Archery is one of, if not, the most gender neutral sport. People are just stoopid cuz they think this sport requires strength from the draw weight of the bow. There's this thing called "adjusting". Women are known to be smarter and more adjusting than men so yeah, they could've
draw weight makes the difference. Otherwise, yeah, it's relatively even compared to other sports.
12.2 cm 10-ring from 50 meters! sheeeeeeet that's tough!
Amazing shooting
This is archery the way it was meant to be. "Recurve" is ok, but all the tripod stabilizers, sights, and nick-nack-patty-whacks are getting to be a bit much.
Plus, when the crowd moans if an archer gets an "8"... It's time to strip the bow of paraphernalia. Let's be honest, it's not a rifle.
well said I feel the same way
As a spectator I dislike the way all the gadgets look. Takes away from the purity of it.
And let’s just burn all compound bows while we’re at it...I get it, you like to see archery done in a more pure form. There’s nothing wrong with that. But to say that barebow is the way archery is “meant to be” is just wrong. I shoot Olympic Recurve and can tell you that our accessories help us, but by no means make us shoot like a rifle or have perfect precision. They only help to raise the level of competition. To think archery should only be as basic as possible is just ridiculous
@@cameronsenay882 My First bow was a longbow. My Second bow was a Compound. My Third bow was an 'olympic Style', complete with clickers, sights, stabilizer, and all the gunk. My Current bow is a recurve with *a string* . Much Better Now.
And yes, the junk hanging off bows these days is not Archery its purist form. Far from it. It doesn't make anyone more competitive. It can't, because everyone has the same junk hanging off their bows too. Crossbow anyone? That's not more competitive, right?
*It's the Archer who is the competitor, not the equipment.*
And yes, barebow is the way archery was meant to be. The first selfbow was a bow and string. All these millennia later: barebow is a bow and string. So yes, it is an empirical reality that barebow is the true archery the way it was envisioned and implemented for centuries. (Only the materials have changed. Which is fine by me. I have wood AND magnesium bows. But it's Archery: no laser sights, no crossbows, no form-compensating dampers or stabilizers. And that's how true archery was, and thankfully, that's what it continues to be thanks to barebow and selfbow practitioners.
[I still watch 'olympic style' recurve. But it sure would be more interesting if they stripped-off those gizmos. But then the Accessory Manufacturers would throw a tantrum] ;)
@@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 That’s all well and good but approaching archery with accessories as pieces of gunk is a logical fallacy. They do raise a level of competition. Otherwise Barebow scores and Olympic recurve scores would be far more similar on a top level. The technological advances have raised the capability to perform better alongside the human element. Again, they aren’t like rifles (although crossbows might as well be, and frankly I don’t consider that a form of archery). Think what you want, but claiming that additional parts on a bow is too “unpure” is just silly. There’s a reason the Olympics aren’t shot with stickbows. It wouldn’t be competitive or really that entertaining. All sports are going to modernize over time. And truly if you want archery in its “purest” form, you should despise the modern equipment barebow shooters use today.
What are the pink dangly things on Claire’s left hand?
That's a finger sling. It allows her to relax her bow hand completely without dropping the bow.
Now this is real archery. Pure skills
Modern recurve also requires alot of skills, even more than bare bows
@@HephyOnYT nope, line up and let go, no skill required.
@@pxpin89 shoot at 70 see how u do man
@@HephyOnYT 70m is one of my permanent targets. It just takes practice man, if you dont put the time in you wont hit it. I can't hit it every time but can and have multiple times. Im sure if would be incredibly easier to do that with all the training wheels people use now. Also in a team competition the barebow scores generally dictate which team wins. The other competitors hit 9s-10s all day with all the enhancements they have on the bow while the barebow a 7 8 9 10 is all a good hit and the scores vary widely thus making it the more integral part of a team. So having a better archer with a barebow means more then getting a better modernized archer since no matter the skill at competition level the scores dont vary all that much comparatively.
I think barebow archery should be an Olympic event. Its the real deal!
Was this before the rule that string wrapping must not be usable as an aiming help? To me it looks like Claires string wrap ends exactly on eye level.
Very interesting. Never knew the serving could be used as a sight!
What arrows is Claire using, did they say?
What is the type of arrow they are using? Thanks
I thought they can't mark thier riser?
Can traditional recurve also take part with barebow, and is there prize money here
clare xie left hand's is so stable -minium hand shaking , anyone can tell me how to have stable left hand like clare xie ?
Meters?
The U.S. Open is held at a junior high football field?
What does barebow mean exactly? at 9:12 that looks like a sight just above her right thumb.. and the other competitor at 9:20 I don't see any sight, but on her bowstring it looks like she can guage by that orange wrap near the nock. Does this mean you're allowed to choose one point of sight, but not two?
That is not a sight. What you are looking at is the back side of a plunger. It is not even in the sight window and can't be used for aiming as it's on the wrong side of the bow. You aim by looking down the arrow. Barebow has a plunger & rest. No sights, stabilizers, clickers or draw checks of any kind.
I bass fished in a Hurricane with Braden on the Potomac River. LOL And we caught them good. He is an awesome young man and a great archer.
Center Serving
Great stuff and impressive shooters! Anybody know about how much draw weight these competitors usually shoot? Is the draw weight their choice, or are there rules they have to stay within?
Technically 30 pounds is enough for barebow. As I recall it is only in compound that has a limit for draw weight which is 60 pounds but for recurve and barebow there is none.
@@antoniotolentino8118 Are you sure about that 30lb figure? My draw weight at the moment is 36lb, but there's no way in the world my arrows would thud into the target like that at 50m. Then again, no doubt the ladies are using arrows which are substantially thinner and lighter than mine. Maybe Christina would care to chime in with accurate info, since I've seen that she's active on this thread. C Lyons - how about it, dear heart? 😏
@@tiggertoo1962 Yup I use 28 Ib and I can reach 50 m. Of course, you will also consider your arrows.
@@antoniotolentino8118 Time to buy myself some lighter arrows, methinks.
@@tiggertoo1962 Here I was 35lbs on the fingers. You can shoot with lower weight but accuracy becomes an issue with gap shooting. I believe Claire is about that or slightly higher as well. Most men shoot around lower 40s for this this and most drop their weight a little for indoor 18M.
I’m not brave enough nor skilled enough to shoot bare bow 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Proper archery is awesome!
14:43 Christina's bowstring looks weird, like it wasn't centered. That explains her grouping perhaps
The madness of wearing masks in a field with a high wind😢
Now that World Archery is involved let's see how many ridiculous rules they come up with.
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Should barebow be a once piece recurve?
That would make for a great class. Of course the bows would have to be built to handle the tiller necessary for stringwalking.
@@gblan idk a barebow archer these days can grab another top limo just off the market and work with it lol
The reason why it's not, and why weights and that are allowed, is ostensibly to allow people to shoot with less expensive bows. You can make a bow that's heavily weighted and the tiller is specifically set for string walking. It will be just an engineered as a modern bow, but it will look traditional. And, really, it'll all be an expensive illusion. This is more inclusive, allowing archers to shoot well with anything from a $200 bow to a $1500 bow.
Barebow sounds almost as dirty as Bareback!
The mask doesn’t work very well when it’s under your chin
It's air-born my friend, only a properly fitted N-95 does anything.
Zero reason to have a mask on, especially out of doors.
zero reason anywhere
In traditional shooting would rather rely on the shooter who hits their mark on the first shot. You need experience with your bow. You think your first perfect stock will be perfect every time? No.
Every shot is different. You adapt to it or just grab another bow off the line made exactly the same or you just use the bow you know best.
It's only 15 meters. How are they missing the bulls eye?
It's 50m
closing the eye is a big no no. Why are they doing that?
Right? They’ll never make it to the championship level if they keep doing that.
Says you the champion of what?
pls stop speaking any more for too much speaking?
Claire is using her strung serving end as a sight mark.