Watching Butturff and Cooley, especially, gives you an idea of how different that shot is from the norm. Cooley slow-wheeling it while still ripping the inserts out of the ball and it moves 5 boards tops.
We met on Quibicas World Cup .. i dont remember if it was in Malaysia 2009 or Toulon 2010 but i can see you still have that smooth touch Thomas! Good luck on this one!
Aw, you should've showed Buttruff more. Let me guess: frozen rope up the 3 or 4 board with urethane? Can't be too sure though; always a mystery when he gets up to bowl. Lol
If you're bowling on 50 feet the most important is getting the right amount of surface. For some asyms will be the best choice if you need something get started, but for some symmetrics will be better because the core will allow the ball not get too early if you are using a lot of surface. I used a combination of Rubicon and Zen Master - so both asym and sym.
Years ago one week of league play the lanes were flooded with oil. If you threw with any speed the ball went everywhere. Somehow I thought of really slowing the ball down. Couldn't have been going over 10 mph. Right down 15 and it would get to the pocket. The pins would just topple over but I had 17 in a row in the middle and 782. Four single pins the last game.
On a condition like this, might it work better to go straight diagonally from the corner of the lane to the pocket? At least you'd get a tiny bit more angle and less deflection and wouldn't have to deal with the lane breaking down. Is it just easier to be accurate going down the middle with a straight-ahead approach?
@@leo5208 That would be a good idea if you're only trying to hit the pocket, but it's good to note that there's a minimum degree of entry into the pocket you need to hit, which is about 2 degrees or so, and you won't be able to get that from throwing directly from the corner of the lane to the pocket. What pros want to do is hit a certain area with their comfortable rev rate and ball speed so they don't have to worry about underangling. Your idea would work, however, if you had a lower rev rate. You can see Chris Barnes at 0:25 as well as some other gentleman I'm unfamiliar with at 1:17 do exactly that. Where you play the lane really comes down to your rev rate and ball speed combination, as well as the equipment you're using.
The first 4 or 5 guys cranked the stuffings out of the balls and all either missed the head pin completely or barely grazed it on super light hits. The later bowlers shown all played far outside and pretty straight, which I would guess is the only reasonable way to play the lanes on these conditions. If the ball just won't hook, why try to force it?
Because most of the bowlers today have no idea how to play a line or conditions like this. They just grab the ball that hooks to the moon and stand in the left gutter. It's good to see but kinda sad that is what is necessary. The plastic ball tournament is fun to watch too.
@@flipper9038 ohhh I see, you are one of those, like i give a fuck what idiots like you think of me. He winning ToC is even more proof how much work and effort he is putting in, if he look this good b4 that tournament, its even less surprising to me that he got the ultimate price
for an old-school guy like me (51) it's awesome to see the boys going straight-line down the right gutter
Watching Butturff and Cooley, especially, gives you an idea of how different that shot is from the norm. Cooley slow-wheeling it while still ripping the inserts out of the ball and it moves 5 boards tops.
And that was on the burn!
Cooley is my favorite one handed style to watch
We met on Quibicas World Cup .. i dont remember if it was in Malaysia 2009 or Toulon 2010 but i can see you still have that smooth touch Thomas! Good luck on this one!
It must have been 2009. Hope you are still doing well!
Years ago I bowled in a PBA experience league. This was one of my favorite patterns. Slow ball speed and straight up 5th board.
Very interesting pattern, thank you!
Looks just like me on a House Shot. "Why isn't this ball hooking?!"
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I see the iceman!! Goodluck yall
Thanks!
That finesse game is looking good Thomas!
Thanks! Hopefully all coming together!
Not just 50 feet of oil, 50+ mL, too. There were people who were using drywall screen on their ball.
I think the volume was a little lower this year. 220-360 seemed to do the job this year
Reminds me of Snowman Doubles in Shawnee.
Nasty 7-9 to end the clip lol
Yeah, that one definitely surprised me
Aw, you should've showed Buttruff more. Let me guess: frozen rope up the 3 or 4 board with urethane? Can't be too sure though; always a mystery when he gets up to bowl. Lol
Actually strong reactive balls with a bunch of surface. Too much oil for urethane
Looks brutal
They were 😅
If anyone can shed some knowledge. If your bowling reactive on a 50 foot pattern, would you rather have a Asym ball?
If you're bowling on 50 feet the most important is getting the right amount of surface. For some asyms will be the best choice if you need something get started, but for some symmetrics will be better because the core will allow the ball not get too early if you are using a lot of surface. I used a combination of Rubicon and Zen Master - so both asym and sym.
@@ThomasLarsenBowling awesome. Thank you so much for your time.
Sooooo did he get the 300??
Wait bro executive bowl is in my city
Where is this?
Executive Strike and Spare in Louisville, Kentucky
Years ago one week of league play the lanes were flooded with oil. If you threw with any speed the ball went everywhere. Somehow I thought of really slowing the ball down. Couldn't have been going over 10 mph. Right down 15 and it would get to the pocket. The pins would just topple over but I had 17 in a row in the middle and 782. Four single pins the last game.
Making the best of a bad situation
On a condition like this, might it work better to go straight diagonally from the corner of the lane to the pocket? At least you'd get a tiny bit more angle and less deflection and wouldn't have to deal with the lane breaking down. Is it just easier to be accurate going down the middle with a straight-ahead approach?
@@leo5208 That would be a good idea if you're only trying to hit the pocket, but it's good to note that there's a minimum degree of entry into the pocket you need to hit, which is about 2 degrees or so, and you won't be able to get that from throwing directly from the corner of the lane to the pocket. What pros want to do is hit a certain area with their comfortable rev rate and ball speed so they don't have to worry about underangling.
Your idea would work, however, if you had a lower rev rate. You can see Chris Barnes at 0:25 as well as some other gentleman I'm unfamiliar with at 1:17 do exactly that. Where you play the lane really comes down to your rev rate and ball speed combination, as well as the equipment you're using.
Where was this
Executive Strike and Spare in Louisville, Kentucky
@@ThomasLarsenBowling that’s where I thought it was! I’m about 2 hours from there and that’s where they hold the state championships for high school!
It's a really nice center!
Bowling on ice
It kinda felt like it sometimes
Is this Thunderbowl Lanes
It literally says on the pinsetters...
Left side is only 43ft?
Is that a dog and cat on your jersey? That's neat!
This pattern is similar to the pattern used in the U.S. Open back in the day.
Thought butters was on the roto grip team for a minute there lol
The first 4 or 5 guys cranked the stuffings out of the balls and all either missed the head pin completely or barely grazed it on super light hits. The later bowlers shown all played far outside and pretty straight, which I would guess is the only reasonable way to play the lanes on these conditions. If the ball just won't hook, why try to force it?
You definitely couldn't force it to hook. But there wasn't really any best place to play
Because most of the bowlers today have no idea how to play a line or conditions like this. They just grab the ball that hooks to the moon and stand in the left gutter. It's good to see but kinda sad that is what is necessary. The plastic ball tournament is fun to watch too.
The flood!!!!
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Urethane just got banned? Older than 2020?
Yes, I will have a video about it on EMAX Bowling Service soon
Now they have an idea how it was to bowl professionally in the 60’s,70’s and 80’s where they didn’t rely on equipment…
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look how easy is Dom bowling... yea, i bet those 100k made it easier :)
Ya really, wins double what I make a year just bowling a tournament...its insane
That's before the 100k
This was way before the toc. Think before speaking.
@@flipper9038 ohhh I see, you are one of those, like i give a fuck what idiots like you think of me. He winning ToC is even more proof how much work and effort he is putting in, if he look this good b4 that tournament, its even less surprising to me that he got the ultimate price
pocket 7-9. lol
At 50 feet your best off rolling straight ball up nothing more.
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Some don't look like the best 😭
50 ft is a lot harder than you think lmao, and I mean a lot
@@ironicjustin1460 oh ok thanks