BATTLETECH: The Urbanmech
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Well we’re back in action with a new #Battletech / #Mechwarrior video. This video is also going to be fulfilling our Member Goal which was from last month, which was to do a video in the voice of #Kermit / #KermitTheFrog, so you will have to forgive the amphibious tone of this video.
The #Urbanmech is a staple of Battletech at this point, a #Battlemech with an odd shape and questionable quality. Let’s talk about this today.
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Try not to think about it as the slowest, least mobile Battlemech. But as the fastest, most mobile turret!
Remember, it's called a trashcan not a trashcant.
Kermit voice for the win.
Trashcan, not Trashcannot. Everyone laughs until some insane Solaris jockey straps an AC20 to one and cores an Atlas.
Exactly what I was thinking. Hey, Kermit!
How about Trash-able? Trash-handy?
@@VallornDeathblade double or tripple crit, two gyros or 3 engine parts. I mean it's possible, but not very likely. Headshot though would be glorious. That once happened to me, not with an urbanmech but a hunchback. My annihilator wept
@@VallornDeathblade The atlas can trade just fine with the urbanmech since it actually has the armor to deal with that hit while the urbie most assuredly can't.
Hearing the Kermit voice, I was sorta expecting a tangent about diving into the belly of a dragon to save your father with nothing but an Urbie to aid you.
This is an expert from Col. Peterson's new book "12 Rules for Mech Combat: An Antidote for Clanners"
“Kermit the Frog here…”
@@TheGreenKnight500 that sound like a hell of a mech book.
or maybe a guest appearance by Oscar the Grouch to express his opinion on it
Same man XD
Nice
If only I could say the same thing about the Urbanmech :P
@@BigRed40TECH You doubt its power?
@@BigRed40TECH Nothing is funnier than popping out in front of a 100 ton assault mech and then coring it instantly with a UAC/20. Either in tabletop OR video games.
@@rhorybader4054 I'd argue the look on the urbie players face as you field Warrior attack helicopeters is better since he can't engage, can't fall back and can't dodge your slurry of AC2 spitballs.
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 Helicopters ARE a pain, yes..
They might not seem like much, but in my experience Urbies tend to fight like they're the third monkey on the ramp to Noah's Ark.
It may fight that way, but sadly, it ends up crossing the rainbow bridge more times than not.
@ZeroZenth I learned pretty quickly that what an Urbie lacks in speed, it makes up for with its autocannon _shotgun._ You WILL lose your armor if you don't take care of them first, and you do not want to be going anywhere with broken armor
It dies, in no small part, because you must recognise the threat it presents and focus it down before it's able to engage. Ignore the walking turret with a BFG at your own peril. In cities, its intended terrain, it's an even worse adversary to ignore because its low mobility no longer prevents it from closing range unmolested, and it still carries a solid coating of armor and a pretty obscene amount of firepower for its size.
@@TheRoboKitty imagine if theres a variant of the urban that has two ac/20-Bf
@@TheRoboKitty Ya there pretty cool the first cople of times, but i have no idea what is going on with the enemy generator when it views "greater threat" with populating the map with nothing but a small battalion of Urbies all with freaken Ac 20 BURSTFIRES. at that point they have long sense stopped being fun to fight and have become an annoyance that i don't even bother to kill anymore, just shoot off the gun and keep going
Many BattleTech players don't understand the origin of the Urbanmech and what it was built for. The Urbanmech came with the CityTech Expansion, where the battles were in cities with brutal skidding rules and damage when you ran into buildings. Moving fast usually meant you broke your mech. Also, C-Bills were introduced as a method for pricing mechs. Most of us would pair up mech lances by weight, but C-Bills introduced the concept of balancing lances by cost. As stated, the Urbanmech was both very cheap and moved slow, which in some games made it really good if it was used in its intended environment and you played by C-Bills.
And then there were the Savanah Master kamikaze legions...
360 no scope means it can move and fire in all directions
Plus the combo of jump jets and the AC give the Urbie plenty opportunities to catch enemies with their pants down in urban environments.
The UrbanMechs main advantage is its stealth capabilities, and by stealth capabilities I mean "The enemy has so many other viable targets on the battlefield they're just going to ignore the UrbanMech(s)".
That is... until one sneaks up (albeit very slowly) behind them with it's AC20....
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urbies dies first cause they die fast
Not to mention it's small enough that, in its ideal battlefield (cities) it can hide behind structures, then jump over them and shoot you in the ass with its autocannon.
So slow you never see them moving! That is until the AC20 says hi, then YOU are the primary target.
Its the townguard of mechs... until it took an SRM to the knee actuator
Fun fact; the Battletech PC game has an achievement for killing another mech with an Urbie DFA: Humpty Stumpty.
Oh i was missing that one, going to try to pull it next time i get a B Team contract
My brother&I used to play Battletech together, sometimes for entire weekends at a stretch. I fell in love with the clans, while he read the novels&just chuckled at me&my omnimech combinations.
I once changed a Dire Wolf to my fave weapons&boasted to him that I would savage anything he deployed against my mighty configuration.
He simply said "anything? Really!"
I could only scoff&nod with way too much confidence.
He simply noted what my configuration cost&asked if we could fight in the city.
I had an active probe, so I foolishly agreed.
So I marched my 100 ton Omni mech up to his city. Detected 6 mechs. So in I went, pulse lasers just a humming for some flimsy inner sphere mechs to light up.
Because of the way city fighting works. I could only see 1 of the mechs at a time. So I laughed when I realized my 1st target was an Urbie.
I shredded the thing with 2 large pulse lasers targeting its right arm. Easily overflowing the arm location&sinking a critical into the adjacent torso. Knocking out the squats main weapon.
I laughed again. We ended the turn.
My brother asked me if I wanted the good news or the worse news 1st?
I said good news.
Which was that I could now detect most of his garrison force. Which was 10 more Urbies in range of my active probe.
The worse news was that I couldn't detect the other 9.
He figured out that my 1 Omni could pay for 22 Urban mechs. Which is what I was facing.
I got savaged.
The pinnacle of clan tech. The best I could imagine using said tech.
None of it mattered against waves of the little bastards, since I could at most, only target&maybe kill one or two every turn. Their speed didn't matter. They were already where they needed to be, just powered down&waiting. Their individual weapons&armor didn't matter.
The entire point of an urbanmech is that it's a mobile weapon platform, that every city on every planet can afford, and realistically would.
Just to accumulate them. Rethinking them as the most ridiculous infantry force over a long enough timeline. My brother just looked at the Urbie&saw where Elementals came from.
I saw, like most, the wrong thing.
yep thoes fuckers are gloryfied walking turrets but HOLY FUCK are they lovable.
Can you imagine showing up in the afterlife courtesy of an Urbie?
"So what happened to you?"
"I don't wanna talk about it."
"Ehh... Uhhh... i died choking on a weiner"
Hey man that ac20bf is no joke if it catches you off gaurd
Most people - "the fuck your doing, are you stupid, why do you field Urbies? “
Me - "huehuehue, AC 20's go brrrr" (laughing maniacally while fielding 16 Urbies against a single Mad Cat).
Ahhh the Urbie troll company...a tried and true classic
Mix and match your company, half of the AC/20 models, and half with the original AC/10 for some added range.
@@WolfHreda This.
Add in the MRM version for just that extra bit of fuck you to whatever is on the other end.
@@DaMasterPilot I only play 3025 and 50, so no MRMs for me. That AC/20 tho....mmmmmm
Kermit the Frog does BattleTech is not the humor I wanted, but the humor I needed
The Urbanmech best strength is the pure flex factor. One of my favourite HBS Battletech moments is when my Urbanmech in the beginning of the battle got a really lucky shot and shot the head off a shadow hawk. Even if the pilot had survived the embarrassment is too much
God hope he didn't survive. Poor soul.
@@joel-jx4wj and if he did lets hope he can roll it off as some lucky shot by a locuest or soemthing as thoes things are to be feared when they can find ya and like a pack of wolves FUCK YA DAY!
The Urbie is just fun. In a one-off game, a lance of Urbanmechs against two mediums in an urban setting can be really enjoyable for both players. If used as slightly mobile ambush turrets, the Urbanmech is very effective. In literally any other role, it's going to come up short.
That is literally how they are supposed to be used. The out of game factor is that a merc or pirate commander has the weigh the risk of engaging a city defended by them and if it will cost him more in parts and repairs to take that city. Your a Merc or pirate commander raiding a preph world. You have a mixed lance of med and lights. You land on a planet and find out that they have half company of urbies and militia dug in. Good luck.
The Urbie isn't actually a battlemech, it's a very ambitious turret living its dreams
360 no scope
FYI, there was a semi-official LAM UrbanMech a few years ago, as part of an April Fools, if any of y'all are feeling extra heretical today.
I actually made a few of these on my 3d printer and run them quite often just for shiggles. Also have an urban king crab because reasons.
@@Colonel_Overkill Urban King Crab? What, is it 3 Urbanmechs duct taped together?
@@Chris_Sizemore sounds like power rangers megazorb. The guns on an urbie replaced with other urbie torsos each with its own ac20, and each pilot having to cotrol their limb.
@@Chris_Sizemore think an urban with king crab arms and legs
@@Chris_Sizemore 3 and a half urbies tapped together makes an Annihilator.
Never thought about Kermit as a mech guy. In hind sight, it kinda makes sense.
The Urbanmech is one of the best rear-echelon guard dogs you can buy. Nothing says "hello fellow light Mech pilot, your day is going to suck" like suddenly having four Urbies show up babying the HQ vehicles you thought you could handle unimpeded.
Remember, a lance of Urbies is really just an Annihilator that can crossfire you from four different angles.
I think my favorite model of the good old Urbie is actually the URM-90 SuburbanMech. I like the ammo independence and long range firepower provided by its PPC, which help to offset its low mobility if you have to use it outside of ideal terrain. On the other hand, unlike most UrbanMechs, you have to watch your heat in it, especially if alpha striking.
Regarding the original design, what I find strange is that TRO:3025 makes mention of a machine gun that the URM-60 didn't have. I wonder if, instead of the superfluous eleventh heat sink (you will never, ever generate enough heat in a URM-60 to overheat), it was supposed to have a machine gun with half a ton of ammunition for it?
When you get ambushed by an urbi and a phoenix hawk, no matter which target you pick you're going to have a bad time.
It's not a good mech, but it is perfectly willing to ruin your day for a fraction of the cost.
Melee is a solution
This mech is extremely effective in its intended role of being a joke.
Oh 100%.
House Davion keeps on trying to marshal a response, but sadly, the Shadow-Hawk is just too mediocre to be considered outright bad. And it lacks the Urbanmech's trashcan like shape.
Everyone laughing and rioting until you walk round the corner into its sights.
@@BigRed40TECH I see your Urbie and Shadow Hawk and raise you the Charger.
Davion's UM-R90 was at least a step in the right direction at improving the Urbie. Increased the engine size to a 90, rather than the original 60, removed the AC-10 for a PPC and added 2 Medium Lasers whilst retaining the original Small Laser and added a third jump jet and a further 2 heatsinks.
@@semperatis Yup, the Suburbanmech's definitely a more versatile design overall. Not the same niche space as the original, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Possibly the silliest thing I've done with and Urbie is take the Capellan AC-20 version and shoe-horn in a Gauss rifle to replace the AC-20. It's ridiculous, I don't deny that, but no more than the Arrow IV was.
I gave one of these a gauss rifle, giving it serious long-range punch. It still hurts a lot up close, too. A lance of these, fighting other light mechs or vehicles, are brutal. With the Gauss I can cockpit-snipe bigger mechs as well as pulverize Locusts and Javelins.
I call it UM-R357. Magnum.
Cool story, bro. ❤
and as a locuest user i fucking hate seeing em with anythin close to BIG. i first blow the gun then dome the drive because as i am :P smoll mech meats smol lazor means overall pain.
Wow...did not know Kermit liked Battletech. Mind blowing.
Blame the TH-cam members, they asked for this. lol
@@BigRed40TECH I can't believe you kept this up the whole time. Respect
I was thinking the best way to implement urban mechs in an urban environment is to dig pits in cities and put them on hydraulic floors store them underground. when an enemy mech pops up deploy the urbanmech's huge AC and shoot them in the back or hide them in buildings. they are REALLY dangerous in large packs hiding in cities.
Imagine using 3 Mad-Cats to invade a city only upon realizing you played C-Bills and your enemy has 48 Urbies, even with just an AC10 (and those madmen could run AC20) they will just hide until Mad-Cats enter their range only to jump on top of buildings and rip enemy to pieces losing maybe one or two Urbies generating losses of around 73 million C-Bills vs around 3 mill.
Quantity is a quality.
Don't forget, Urbies are short, they only take one floor of clearance indoors. Park inside - when the enemy passes by, you power up, walk through the wall (OHHH YEEEEAAAA!!!), shove your AC/20 against the Atlas's knee, pull the trigger, then cackle like a crazy person as you jump over the building.
@@muninrob somebody is an urbie vet I see
@@mareczek00713 to quote a famous youtuber jump on them likes monkey's high on meth.
@@muninrob this... This comment is beautiful
This video is perfect in 1.25x for that perfect Kermit experience really damn good!
Good job bear good to hear that you are well :)
Best mech ever xD
The best video, for the best mech.
If by best, we mean worst. lol
Remember, it's a trash can, not a trash can't.
My favorite change to this 'mech is to replace the AC with a PPC, change the small laser to a medium, and add more armor.
The Urbanmech is what an upgraded R2D2 astromech aspired to be.
i often just destroy the right arm to remove the cannon, and leave it nearly harmless, and leave it to the mercy of my lancemates,
however, i must note that to a light mech such as a locust, a pair of urban mechs makes for a considerable threat in the close quarters confines of a city. their strength lies in numbers, especially in city environments, and given how cheap they are its really easy to take advantage of this strength.
I like the urbanmech, but not for gameplay. I think it's existance is great as worldbuilding. Much like nations still using the FT-17 as WWII rolled around, plenty of planetary militias have these because it's all they can afford. It's (a bit) better than nothing.
Oh I love the Urbanmech.
But it is garbage. lol
@@BigRed40TECH You just don't have enough of them. If you have cost parity with your opponent they do surprisingly well against anything but light scout lances. (Also, your opponent might just give up halfway through your 1st turn of moving 60 urbies)
P.S. A Mad Cat is going to be out of ammo long before it kills it's own cost in Urbanmechs.
It makes no sense to have mechs that are "all they can afford". Battlemechs cost a lot more than Combat Vehicles.
@@ChaosTicket its entirely makes sense.
@@ChaosTicket It makes sense in the same way that nations still using T-55s makes sense.
I feel out of all the mechs from battletech ir mechwarrior the urbanmech would be somewhat the easiest mech we can make today possibly minus the jump jets
I find it amazing and hilarious that he did a Kermit impression the ENTIRE video lmao
It's not easy being green.
A guy I know on one of the Battletech community groups, posted that he just bought 10 Urbanmech lance packs (so 40 Urbanmechs in total) and is planning to field an Urbanmech army, simply because they're so cheap and he can.
I keep hoping he posts footage of it, the turn order alone would be a sight to see.
There must be a fanfic somewhere where an urbanmech jumpjets into the middle of a fray with the pilot screaming leroy jenkins and then Last Starfighter-style does the death blossom maneuver while rotating 360's
so this urbie saturday night special build is a thing now: th-cam.com/video/3sS7xfz6nfs/w-d-xo.html
Everybody gangsta, until their Atlas gets cored by a walking trashcan.
Was the mech shut down? Was it parked?
The Urbie is an amazing mech when you realize it's a hyper specialized designed. It is intended to defend cities, not towns, not jungles, cities. It's slow because it's intended to hold the line, not outflank anything, in areas with extreme cover. Peak behind a building, fire, lean back to having an entire skyscraper between you and return fire. It's jump jets are for jumping over buildings, again to safety of total cover. Someone made a joke comment about hiding inside a building, Kool Aid Manning through the wall, and shooting an assault mech in the back of the knee then jumping over another building to safety. That sounds funny, but seriously, that is exactly how an UrbanMech is intended to be used. And they are cheap as a factor of their design. Urbies are pack animals. Yeah, the FireStarter can jump in to flank it. Can the FireStarter survive the coming onslaught of point blank AC10 fire from the seven other Urbies?
Remember, one of the variants comes with an AC20.
And 4 tons of armour*
Even in a city, it's very possible to be outflanked in this thing by anything with jump jets.
@@BigRed40TECH
Doesnt the turrent turn all the way around though? You can still shoot them if they do flank you.
I think you forgot to mention the extended rotation in the video.
@@GnarledStaff A standard torso twist + right angle fires means it can always shoot behind it anyway. It also has the ability to arm-flip its cannons. A full torso twist only means it can use its small laser too. I'd argue that's of little consolation for it.
Honestly with unlimited torso twist, a lance of urbanmechs in a city is a dangerous thing. Though if your shopping for autocannons any urbanmech out in the open is an easy way to acquire one.
So many people overlook the torsotwist. They claim it's easy to out flank.... but you can't outflank a 360 degree torso twist.
Good to see you back bear hope you’re recovery wasn’t to hard
Still in a small bit of recovery, but it was good to get this one done. :)
I like the Urbanmech. It performs in its intended role well enough, and even if you're not too fond of it, you don't have to pay much for it. Astute pilots can use the mech's Extended Torso Twist to keep faster opponents (i.e., all opponents) in their sights. Further, if more intimidating ally mechs are nearby, enemies are likely to dismiss Urbanmechs and focus on the greater threat. This tends to be a sound tactic...but every so often, these enemies wind up with the Urbies' oversized guns trained on their rear arcs. You can't ask Urbanmechs to win a battle by themselves, but maybe...if you're fighting in dense terrain or a city...you can use them to surprise the hell out of someone who isn't paying attention. And that's a lot of fun.
Urbanmech alone may not seem much, but full lance of them is hella firepower on the budget. I just checked on MegaMek game that to match the BV values of Urbanmech and Panther, Urbanmech gets to have veteran MechWarrior (3 gunnery skill, 4 piloting skill) while Panther has green MechWarrior (5 gunnery skill, 6 piloting skill). 1 more thing going for Urbanmech is its weapons have field of fire in all directions as its arms can flip to rear arc.
It's BV is that low for a reason. lol
I love running the Capellan variant of this thing. Someone coming around a corner just to discover they're missing a few components due to encountering a light mech with an AC20? Priceless. Disregard that one game where I was outgunned and almost lost to a tank...
I recall in Mech Commander 2, I used to turn Urbies into essentially discount Hollanders by mounting a Light Gauss Rifle to them, and they were light enough that I could bring a bunch of them and just make the enemy's life a bit of a hell.
They were little better than sniper turrets, but for defense missions they were quite useful. The bestest angy trashcans.
I used an Urbanmech to DFA an Atlas once. Freaking hilarious.
If you actually hurt it, the pilot should have died of shame
Please tell me you screamed "GARBAGE DAY!!!" on impact. 🤣😆
@@GhostBear3067 Coring assault mechs with an AC20 wielding trashcan is peak MWO
Darn, covid really did a number on your voice! 😂
I knew I was feeling green.
@@BigRed40TECH 🤣🤣🤣
Don't forget that the Urbanmech can rotate its torso 360degrees. Its not much, but it does add to its urban fighting capabilities.
Damn, listening to Kermit the frog at 2x speed is an experience lol. Can't say I agree on the take though. Fun video nonetheless!
It's such a bad mech, lol.
@@BigRed40TECH
Until your light Lance runs into a couple dozen of them
That can be said for any design. :\
@@BigRed40TECH You say that and then some psychopath throws in an 140 XL engine, an UAC10 and 2 er medium lasers. And keeps the jumpjets.
No one ever expects a 75kph jump jet capable trashcan with a desire to sate it's hunger for scrap metal.
(It's me, I'm psychopath)
I call it the Portable Mech Disposal Unit (aka: The Turbo Urbie)
@@NeroLordofChaos It's not really an Urbanmech anymore though.
Nothing more clearly shows how battletech is both a game and a fully realized universe.
From a military budget and specialization perspective the urban mech makes perfect sense. Home guard units, militias...etc.
In a game sense...your probably only ever gonna use it for the memes.
Urbies, in my eyes, are swarmers. They're cheap, disposable, and decently armed. This means I can field shitloads of them at once and overwhelm anything my enemy can throw at me. When garbage day comes, kiss your loved ones farewell, because you're off to the great landfill in the sky... eventually.
I'm very new to Battletech. Really enjoying these videos. There's a bewildering variety and you turn them from mere names into personalities.
I love the range of quality between mechs. Adds to verisimilitude because it mirrors the real world so well. It's like watching tank development in the World Wars, every country just throwing @*$(# at the wall to see what stuck. Some hit the jackpot, with others it was more like hitting the chamberpot. It's also typical of military hardware being ordered by politicians and bean counters rather than engineers or pilots. The people who know what's needed and/or possible often aren't the ones making the decisions.
THAT KERMIT VOICE !!! You, Sir, made my day 🤣🤣🤣 Thank youuu~~
When playing MW5 the Urbie can be a real pain in the ass when fighting against it, especially in the early stages of ones' career or campaign. The burstfire AC/10 that they carry can wreak havoc on light and lighter medium Mechs.. And when adding the "Yet Another Mechlab" mod there's even a variant with twin AC/2-BF's wich should not be underestimated. Sofar i haven't kept any Urbie's i've salvaged, they're just too slow for my fighting style, but as i'm typing this comment i'm thinking to change that somewhat and experiment a bit since with the aformentioned mod you can also swap out the engines. Something to think about. In the Battletech VG however there's sadly no such thing as far as i no and thus no real reason for me to keep the Urbie around so they just keep on ending getting sold or scrapped.
triple light ppc urbie sniper is surprisingly effective in MWO.
In MW5 they are useful in the early game to anchor a really light lance, scrap jump jets and heatsinks, add a M laser and some more ammo/an AC5 and armour and you cut in half the repair costs on you locust/javelin/commando lance
@@AlexisVolk97 Sounds like something i might want to try, though i might go for a better engine instead of slapping extra armour on
@@Taiko206 that Marik start gave me a new love for light mechs, as they are all at least twice as good as an assassin
How dare you make fun of what is clearly the 55th best battlemech in the original 3025 technical readout!
:O
Dumbest mech in lore. Best mech in MWO. Duality of Urbies
Well its dirt cheap and good for garrison or paying others with. Also a good use is to keep hot blooded rookies on a short leash, from rushing off and dying. Good for training folk teach them patience in positioning. Outside of that see them a lot used them would take almost any other mech....heck even a tank, but often you can find space for this mech. Also nice Kermit voice pretty good.
YES MY ENGINE COMPLAINT HAS BEEN ADRESSED, WHY JUST ONE MORE TON, JUST ONE MORE IS ALL IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO INCREASE THE SPEED. THATS IT
Wow, I'm impressed... I hated every second of that. 🤣👍
Its R2D2 with a glock
Designed for defense and city fighting with infantry support. Which it is very good for. Everyone is mad that it cant do anything other then what it was purposefully made and designed for. Seems its the fault of the generals.
I dispute it can do that to be honest. It's better at that, it doesn't make it good at it.
@@BigRed40TECH Its better than a tank with an AC 10. in that its not as easy to knock out. Better mechs sure. but if the urban mech gets a good shot. it pays for itself several times over in BV and Cbill investment and is much more avaiable if you go off random assignment charts. In a vacum the Urban mech is a novelty at best. But like magic. Having the best pick of everything gets boring fast. Sometimes you gotta do draft to get something interesting.
@@BigRed40TECH I think there a factors other then what table top that must be considered here. Logistically they are super easy to maintain and keep armed. Planets with thin budgets that just need something to keep pirates at bay can afford these things in bulk which is why they are still being made.
I look at the Urban mech as a huge success if its used how its meant to be used, Its a perfect budget mech for garrison duty and city defense in lore. You have to look at what its supposed to do, and that it is, be enough of a threat that it will make random pirate forces think twice about messing with a city or base its assigned to defend. For the price of one standard mech you can buy a six pack of urban mech. Logistically if your a planetary or city governor you look at the fact that this mech is cheap, its maintenance costs are low, AC10 ammo is cheap and can prob be produced on planet to keep the units armed. If your lance of 4 takes down even one enemy mech, they prob paid for themselves in use and salvage. And in a city fight, it can outmaneuver a lot of bigger mechs that might get hung up on buildings or bridges, etc. City fighting where long range, and speed become minimal benefit, these things can knife fight down much bigger mechs.
Its easy to say, just buy a Wasp or Stinger, that has more advanced systems and more advanced equipment and needs more yearly maintenance time and you have to pay techs and mechanics that can do that work. Its not actually cheaper if the maintenance costs are 10 times that of an urbie. This is a thing that does not come across in the tabletop or online games. Upfront Cbill or Battle Points costs dont really reflect what the maintenance and logistical costs of keeping a mech going over 100 years for a poor government would be. Great houses can afford to have standing armies when pulling from 1000 worlds to pay for them. Planet X next to the border to the prehirpy that exports potatoes and has to keep pirates from stealing them from a warhouse. Your warehouse isnt moving and the pirates want it. They could buy and maintain one stinger or 4 urbies. They have to come to you to steal your potatoes, so you dont have to go chase them, you hunker down and say come get them.
While these things are small enough to go into some parking garages and buildings etc. Its almost perfect for purpose. Its when you take it out of that purpose it fails. Then there will be all the local mods to such mechs. Swap out the Ac10 for and AC5 or AC2(VTOL and vehicle killer). Swap out the small laser for Flamer or a Med or Large laser to better suit what your planet could logistically support. (though we can tinker with swapping engines in Mechwarrior and MW online, I dont think a planetary force buying these would risk doing that or want to pay for that type of thing. So I imagine they stick to the under powered pitban 60)
Another thing people tend to do when playing games. They dont actually play many scenarios that the Urbies would accel at. Seeing peoples battle reports where they do something like charge 20 urbies charge at an overpower custom build omni. But what if the mission was you have to assault an objective and take control of it, and there are 20 urbies in hull down positions waiting for you to try to take it. Able to dodge behind or hide in buildings, It becomes a very different scenario. Your med or heavy enter a city hex and get blasted by a lance with 4 ac10s and 4 small lasers. And you also have infantry forces that can work around the flanks or backs of mechs dealing with urbies. SRMs and Portable machine guns from infantry can add up fast.
The ability to speak like Kermit for a video is raw talent! Yes, Urban mechs make for great jokes, or ablative armor for more important units (ablative armor that can sometimes pull off a DFA on an unsuspecting pirate medium mech....).
That Kermit voice is excellent, I am sure vast quantities of helium were consumed in the making of this video!
No helium required. lol
I know nobody generates forces of the old house based random tables anymore but when we played 3025 with random Mechs, was one of my favorite lights to get in many scenarios It actually has weapons and armor unlike, the locust, stinger, wasp,spider, etc I'd prefer a panther but still it was a decent roll on most tables
Actually I am running a game today where the angry urbanmech pilot took out a hunchback, spider, and pair of galleon tanks. They all just ignored it while dealing with the wasp and stinger first. Bad bad choice on their part. All forces generated on the table
never heard "angry waste bin" before lol
You mock the Urbie, but we ran some events with it at our local games store and the thing shreds most things it encounters when in groups, and is quite useful in combined arms groups. they are 'just' durable enough to be able to survive long enough that they tend to not be ignorable. This is ultimately their best trait, they do to much damage to ignore but are not easy enough to swat away without drawing fire that would be better used elsewhere. Case in point, the SRM Carrier is both a more dangerous, faster, and more expensive target that is immediately prioritized for destruction...but if you pair it with some UM-60Ls that make it their express business to get in your rear arc...well now you have a Morton's fork of SRMs or AC20. It works surprisingly well in urban close quarters combat, especially if you use its quirks of extended torso twist and low profile.
I've played 1000+ Battletech games. I'm not saying I've never seen an Urbanmech do well, but I do know what I've largely seen, which is its absolute annihilation. It's just a deeply flawed design with too many flaws to do much well.
The R2D2 of the Inner Sphere. Its a meme and like a crippled warped puppy, you just think its cute.
Now a song for us all
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It's a TrashCAN, not a trashCAN'T...
I like the UM-R60L.... AC20. Leeroy Jenkins!
"The Ministry of Silly Mechs (MoSM) strongly endorsed the deployment of the Urbanmech" Minister Hurbie, ca. 3052
I just played some MW5 and I want to say, rounding the corner of an urban street in a light mech and finding the barrel of an urbie's AC10 can signal a bad day for a locust or especially a flea.
And the 360 degree rotation means that however you try to flank it you will find that barrel staring you down.
I mean, sure, its not a good mech, but its a scavenger. Its job is to take out the beat up remnants of the attacking force that made it to what they thought was an undefended civilian population.
Definitely needs another weapon though. Replacing the extra heatsink with a medium lazer would make it significantly better.
Edit: the Urbies best feature is that its where it needs to be to defend the town because you took all the better mechs to go fight elsewhere.
I like the whole concept of the Ubranmech. Yes, it is slow. Yes, it looks like a mobile trashcan. Yet it is small and small enough to fit between city streets. To which it will take out the biggest mechs by kicking their knees out from under them. Can't shoot when you are face down on the ground.
I personally view the Urberie as a Mech used for more civil service protection. A Mech used to put put fires, riot control, or light defense line force. I mean would you as a rioter throw a rock at a Mech with a cannon that could make you disappear? And said cannon is just a water cannon. Perfect for urban use. Even if some can do it better....but Urbie is cheap.
Wtf with the Kermit voice lol great vid
how did covid turn you into EVERY sesame street character
I just imagine some rich guy spending too many C-bills on over tuning the Urban mech like they do with "sleeper cars".
Because I think mech rally racing should be a thing.
The glorious UrbanMech , my regular go to mech especially the ArrowIV version , the plasma is nice too
Never made sense to have SL and not MGs to deal with infantry
Very entertaining, thank you.
The Urbanmech might not look like much, carry much, or even move much, but what it can do is serve as a mobile bunker.
It's honestly pretty pathetic but after seeing how two of these hunks of junk were able to support a lone heavy mech that had to tangle with a full lance, I can say they are better than nothing.
"One of the worst mechs in the history of BT" How dare you, Kermit?! Heresy, I tell ya!
This video kinda needs a kazoo soundtrack.
The Mech needs one too.
@@BigRed40TECH That's the noise it's AC-10 makes, right? :P
@@malusignatius It's the effective noise an Urbanmech makes, yes. But not when the cannon is firing :P
I can't even begin to imagine how much this must've killed your throat to make, but damn if the Kermit impression isn't spot on.
In star league, trash takes you out.
UM-AIV also just bombed a bunch of the Kell Hounds and Wolves out of existence.
Gonna sound really weird but in this video the narrator's cadence makes him sound like kermit the frog.
Yo Red you still sound sick as hell, like kermit the frog actually. Get some more rest bud. We can wait for content until you get better.
The Urban mech. Best piloted when used less like a slow as fuck mech but more as a highly mobile turret.
I strapped a Gauss rifle to the UM-60L, gonna be honest, I'm terrified of it now.
I appreciate that we got told about the Urbanmech by Col. Jordan Peterson sipping some tea.
Everyone: "you have to be the be worst mech I've ever heard of"
Urbanmech: "But you have heard of me!"
Took on my girlfriend fairly recently in tabletop. 8000 Battle value. She took a Star of mechs (filthy clanner) including a Marauder, Mongoose, linebacker, trebuchet, and a Raven. I took 12 Urbanmechs. 6 R63, 4 R68, and 4 R90.
Maybe it was because she was getting unlucky dice rolls, but I completely decimated her.
Also: the MRM30 is mean
Ah yes, the Russian WW2 tactics. Quantity has a quality all of its own
Ah, Urbancmech, the self-propelled war crime in making. It`s so good that many colonies chose to bolt an ac10 on a Loader King rather than buying an Urbie. Still that ac10 or ac20 makes it a priority target on a battlefield, not gonna lie, underestimating this walking garbage can has cost me far too many arms and or legs.
All I could think while listening to this was “I bet Kermit stuffed gonzo into one of these and pushed him into Solarus after he caught a whiff of gonzo’s bacon smelling sniffer.”
He was sent to his death. An ignoble one!
Honestly I would not be surprised if there was an arena on Solaris that only dealt with urbies and they ran the thing like a comedy show
@@robrib2682 Urbie Derby!
@@GnarledStaff I'm going to be honest now I kind of want to make a bit of terrain that just has that plastered across a giant banner, but I'm probably going to need to get the new catalyst urby so that I can figure out how tall the thing has to be at minimum
I wish I could say it was MWO that made the trash can iconic but for most they just seem to like the POS.
Oscar the Grouch might get mad but I say we change his trashcan's name to the "Kurmimech" from here on.
I dont understand how no Great House thought to take the UM-R60L, take the AC/20 and single heat sink out of it, and slap a gauss rifle on it, then it gets solid damage at amazing range.
Because some random enemy would just charge in, and steal said gauss rifle then run away with it. The gauss rifle nearly costs as much as the urbanmech itself.
They don't built Urbies to be expensive.
The Urbanmech
An Autoturret on legs, with a meat-assisted targeting system.
Don't curb the urb
The urbie gets a video 😮 the most successful they get is if they don't get shot at, in my experience
for some reason, the narration on this video reminds me of kermit the frog. which is weird because this is oscar thr grouch's mech
Everybody laughing until that AC/10 lands a hit and suddenly you remember that, no matter the platform, it's still a bloody AC/10.
Even better if you fail to recognize it's the Urbie variant with the AC/20.
The Suburbie is really funny, though. When you except a brrt and what you get is a pop-and-sizzle and you realize this is an e-trashcan you're fighting.
I keep a collection of these babies in every one of my HBS Battletech games. Like, I never sell ANY of the three variants. My meta is that my mercs occasionally have little games with the urbies :D
When ever I get the HBS BT mission where I have to escort three rookies one of them *always* has an Urbie...
And it's often the most useful of the lot. The AC/10 is no joke and a hell of a BIG gun for a light mech.
As a urbi mech pilot in mechwarrior online, I feel insulted 😅
I just started watching this and was like, "why is he talking like that??" then saw the tags. 😝
Kazoo music intensifies
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Ah.. a man of culture i see.