An old school trick when spraying metalics or Metal flakes is drop a marble in the bottom of your cup after you mix while spraying your paint every so often swirl your marble around the your cup .It will keep the metalics and metal flakes from settling in the bottom. Dont have a marble handy> Puncture a rattle can after is done and raid the marble out of it and keep in your tool box .
That used to work well with the old siphon guns like a Binks #7 , I wouldn’t suggest that with a modern day gravity feed guns being most of the time lol winters rip the filters out of the paint cup cap to spray flake. You would be in a very bad spot when the marble drops into the intake of the gun in the middle of a paint job , hood etc.
Like what you do👍 It also works good on vinyl, of course you have to use a clearcoat afterwards it gives it a real nice look. I used it on metal plastic and vinyl, It work awesome. What I like to do is tested on plastic speed shapes, because the sticks don’t give it much justice. When you’re done doing a speed shape you can hang them on a wall and use them as examples and people get more excited when they see it. Keep up the good work. Love playing with the different flakes and pearls. It’s just amazing what you can do with them. 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for your videos I just subscribed and can wait till I do my first paint job. Just doing some panels just to get it down you have been a wonderful resource
Oil based enamel paint was all they used to paint vehicles up to the 60s then cut and buffed. When you add hardener to rustoleum it turns it to a 2k paint.
The reason that a lot of older tutorials/videos list mineral spirits rather than acetone is that the Rustoleum label used to read to use mineral spirits and not use acetone except on the aluminum color. Mineral spirits take MUCH longer to dry, and below about 50*F it will seem like it will never dry. I remember back in the day I sprayed a welder rack with Rusto thinned with mineral spirits in the spring and hung in the garage soft/sticky to the touch for over a week until I got it outside and let it sit in the sun on a warm day. I don't believe the formula has changed (it doesn't seem to act any different), just the recommendation because acetone drys MUCH faster, but mineral spirits self-levels much better.
Yes I used a 1.3 tip for both because it was a very small micro flake but if you plan on spraying it heavy or a thicker flake you might might step up to a 1.7 tip thanks for watching
It doesn't necessarily get darker it just gets more saturated the base has a lot to do with the tone if your wanting the full color of the pearl then you typically spray it like you would a tricoat over a black base if your looking for more of an accent then do light coats till you get the result your looking
Man this is so much information , my heads gonna explode 🎉. Ive asked paint store employees about mixing my own. They just wanna mix paint with zero help. I wanna do a smoke grey , black 2 tone on a square body Silverado. Id like the black pearled as well , as the smike grey. What combination do i need??? Like would i use the same pearl over both or how do i do it?
That's so cool. I've eyed that tsc clear for a while now. It says "lacquer" on the can and also not to mix it with the catalyst. I've always wondered if they were blowing smoke. I'm thinking now it's not a lacquer at all. It still hardens up the same right?
I have multiple needles but I have multiple guns so usually I'll just switch guns. Depending on the flake size and load a 1.4 tip which I normally use will not be enough. I have a 1.7 tip gun that works great for heavy flakes and high build primers and if I wanna go insanely big I have a 2.2 tip for my sata gun that I can spray pretty much anything thru.
Yeah that would obviously give you more storage for air and not run the compressor as much but also the compressor is going to run harder and longer to fill that extra tank capacity up so it really just depends what your overall set up is for that situation I would still probably run an LVLP gun
So, I’m wanting to use IH red rust oleum paint on a tractor project, can I add pearl to the paint or what do I need to do to have a red pearl? Thanks! Also, what color of pearl? Red or silver, both?
You can add it to the paint for a more OEM look or to make a metallic color red or silver or both is fine or you would spray a clear coat over top and add the pearls in that to give it the same finish as you see in the video hope this helps and thanks for watching
I just painted my track car with rustolem oil based paint cut with acetone...what clear do you recommend that won't react with the rustoleum. That's my biggest worry is having a reaction and having to start back at square one.
To be on the safe side a minimum of 2 quarts for a car and a gallon for a truck and yes if you want a more OEM look you can add the pearls or the flake into the paint itself thanks for watching
Cool vid, thanks, but now I have questions. Years ago you would by Metallic Auto paint and it was single stage. It was as if everything was in the paint and you thined it and sprayed. It included the metallic. that leads to the 1st question, was all factory metallic silver? I don' tknow but until Ford started doing gold in black it always seemed to have a silver look in the color. 2, what is the metallic? is it a pearl or a metalflake? It didn't look at big as what your micro flake looked I don't think but it was always called metallic, not pearl. I've asked others before and I never seem to get a good answer. Rustoleum has a marine paint called Top Side. I've used the navy blue to paint the tank on my race motorcycle and it turned out really nice but I would like to see that color with metallic only I'm not sure what I need to do to get it there. The bike is vintage and I'm looking to do it such that the metallic is in woth the paint not sprayed on top, LOL, if that makes sense. I may be asking questions you've not come across yet and that's fine but then again you may know and is why I'm asking, you already know alot more about it than I do. Thanks, DC.
I'm pretty sure the whole concept of metallics when it comes to Pearls or micro flakes or even bigger really just deals with the sizes of the particles but the short answer to your question when it comes to most automotive paints is that the metallics in the paint are silver metallic paint which is really just very fine silver pearls being combined in a binder or clear liquid with a number of other colors and tints to create most unique colors which I know from mixing automotive paint at Napa. Things have evolved over the years with various pearl pigment to include white partical pearls used most commonly in ghost / interference pearls and color shift pearls. Originally yes most everything was just considered metallics all based in adding silver to create new colors and then over the years new additives were created given names to sort stuff out like Kandy paint which is pretty much a translucent dye of sorts. Most generic colors I would say if your looking to turn a basic color into a older metallic effect to add a good bit of silver or gold micro flakes or pearls if you want the smallest particle size into the base to create a old school custom effect or just visit your local Napa or paint store as most have books going back into the 40s of various paint options to create that period correct look your going for. I hope my info helped good luck with your project and thanks for watching.
@@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS thats great, thats exactly the answer I was looking for. Given the bike is a '72 model I want it to look like it if haven been painted back then. Glad I ran across your video, now I have a really good starting point. Thanks.
Majic acrylic laquer clear coat it comes in quarts or gallons and there's a little can of hardener that goes with it also I've used most automotive clears over rustoleum they all work about the same just preference thanks for watching
Interested in the flake, was thinking of just adding it to the Rustoleum paint. Would this turn out or would you not be able to see the flake? Also if you have to put the flake in a clear, what about using the base coat the same color as the flake?
Good question yes it would work either way check out my video on making your own Rust-Oleum metallics that should answer a few of your questions thanks for watching
I've wanted to try a battle ship Gary with orange flake on it but not sure now. That blue didn't show up all that good but orange is a lighter color than blue. What do you think?
I think it would def be an interesting combination you just might have to do a lot for coverage over the gray but if you haven't already check out my follow up video where I create custom pearls I actually mix orange with blue as well.
It's a great alternative if your on a budget and you know how to spray it. You can do some pretty cool things for cheap but the pearls and flakes I also use in automotive paint applications all the same. Regardless thanks for watching
I have painted cars for 60 years this is the same auto paint used back in 40's before then in the 60's you could by a gal for 8 bucks ande thinner for 3 bucks the only thing would say use a combo of thinner and acetone for good flow out. painted my ford truck 2 tone for 100 bucks add 2 oz of hardner per qt. i have painted many care with high dollar paint this will last longer than 2 stage .sorry for longed winded Bill
I definitely agree with everything you said. I forgot to mention that in my video that all automotive paint was previously oil based enamel lacquer etc. even some with lead back in the day before they started experimenting with different formulas also going to different mixes water based due to the environmental standards etc. Thanks for your comment and watching. 👍
th-cam.com/video/Z0Fx39Ss2h8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=K9XBh0lhkJHBYXL9 This is a full pearl paint job video I did sorry for any confusion but the purpose of this video was just to show the size difference between pearls and metallics when using Rust-Oleum spray paint through a can or gun. It will still give you the same results both ways they just have different dry times feel free to check out some of my other videos where I do the full pearl paint job such as the one above but I hope this helps clear up any confusion thanks for watching
@@dumpsterfire6351 thanks guys as I say in my videos if you guys want anything covered more in depth I will def make a video on it. Thanks for watching
This was just for test purposes I had a question asked about size difference of pearls vs flakes so I made a video to give ppl the general idea of what to expect thanks for watching
@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS have you ever mix mica powder with black basecoat and spray a car and then clear normal? Reason I ask brother is I'm in process of painting my car and I'm at the basecoat stage now and have ne v er mix with base just clear. What u think
@@itsjusti4262 you can but depending on the color base you use especially black the powder will become lost in it most the time unless you use a lot which at that point would work more like a factory color if that's the look your going for. Most ppl use it in the clear or an inter coat for more of an effect to manipulate the base to look like something completely different but yes either way works great just depends on the look your going for. Hope this answered your question.
Excellent video! Thanks.
An old school trick when spraying metalics or Metal flakes is drop a marble in the bottom of your cup after you mix while spraying your paint every so often swirl your marble around the your cup .It will keep the metalics and metal flakes from settling in the bottom. Dont have a marble handy> Puncture a rattle can after is done and raid the marble out of it and keep in your tool box .
Thank you and thanks for watching
That used to work well with the old siphon guns like a Binks #7 , I wouldn’t suggest that with a modern day gravity feed guns being most of the time lol winters rip the filters out of the paint cup cap to spray flake. You would be in a very bad spot when the marble drops into the intake of the gun in the middle of a paint job , hood etc.
Like what you do👍
It also works good on vinyl, of course you have to use a clearcoat afterwards it gives it a real nice look. I used it on metal plastic and vinyl, It work awesome.
What I like to do is tested on plastic speed shapes, because the sticks don’t give it much justice. When you’re done doing a speed shape you can hang them on a wall and use them as examples and people get more excited when they see it. Keep up the good work. Love playing with the different flakes and pearls.
It’s just amazing what you can do with them.
👍👍👍👍👍
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Your channel is full of awesome information on painting, thanks for the content! subscribed ! 🤘
I’ve been waiting for a video like this. Appreciate it!
Thank you for your videos I just subscribed and can wait till I do my first paint job. Just doing some panels just to get it down you have been a wonderful resource
I'm a new subscriber and enjoy your videos. Affordable and educational for a newbie. Thanks brother 🤙
Oil based enamel paint was all they used to paint vehicles up to the 60s then cut and buffed. When you add hardener to rustoleum it turns it to a 2k paint.
Writing back to front, cheers Graham
Aye your video is spot on
Thanks 🙏
Very educational !!! It has helped me alot !!!!
I like your work, I have a 2006 Scion xb that is black with specks of green and gold, can you do something with these colors.
Check out this video you might like it thanks for watching! th-cam.com/video/I4EyfscgiUY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1Z9IzmR0oEnL7ho3
The reason that a lot of older tutorials/videos list mineral spirits rather than acetone is that the Rustoleum label used to read to use mineral spirits and not use acetone except on the aluminum color.
Mineral spirits take MUCH longer to dry, and below about 50*F it will seem like it will never dry. I remember back in the day I sprayed a welder rack with Rusto thinned with mineral spirits in the spring and hung in the garage soft/sticky to the touch for over a week until I got it outside and let it sit in the sun on a warm day.
I don't believe the formula has changed (it doesn't seem to act any different), just the recommendation because acetone drys MUCH faster, but mineral spirits self-levels much better.
Good job
Appreciate the knowledge
thanx, i did need to know that, gad you pointed this out
Good information brother, don't pay any attention to what Lancaster said .
Thank you for your information
Great info, thanks for sharing, did you use a 1.3 tip on the blue flake, or same tip for both?
Yes I used a 1.3 tip for both because it was a very small micro flake but if you plan on spraying it heavy or a thicker flake you might might step up to a 1.7 tip thanks for watching
Hi,great video on both items, but I have a pearl powder, my question is ,does the pearl get darker ect with the more coats you put on the panel?
It doesn't necessarily get darker it just gets more saturated the base has a lot to do with the tone if your wanting the full color of the pearl then you typically spray it like you would a tricoat over a black base if your looking for more of an accent then do light coats till you get the result your looking
Man this is so much information , my heads gonna explode 🎉. Ive asked paint store employees about mixing my own. They just wanna mix paint with zero help. I wanna do a smoke grey , black 2 tone on a square body Silverado. Id like the black pearled as well , as the smike grey. What combination do i need??? Like would i use the same pearl over both or how do i do it?
You can or you can mix the Pearl into the paint itself both or either color thanks for watching
Great info thanks!
That's so cool. I've eyed that tsc clear for a while now. It says "lacquer" on the can and also not to mix it with the catalyst. I've always wondered if they were blowing smoke. I'm thinking now it's not a lacquer at all. It still hardens up the same right?
Yes as long as you add the hardener it works the same as automotive
Your doing good keep it up , got a question do you got to change your needles for different flakes
I have multiple needles but I have multiple guns so usually I'll just switch guns. Depending on the flake size and load a 1.4 tip which I normally use will not be enough. I have a 1.7 tip gun that works great for heavy flakes and high build primers and if I wanna go insanely big I have a 2.2 tip for my sata gun that I can spray pretty much anything thru.
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You know I got that 3 gallon compresser if I get a 6 gallon re fill tank and hook them up togather would that work
Yeah that would obviously give you more storage for air and not run the compressor as much but also the compressor is going to run harder and longer to fill that extra tank capacity up so it really just depends what your overall set up is for that situation I would still probably run an LVLP gun
So, I’m wanting to use IH red rust oleum paint on a tractor project, can I add pearl to the paint or what do I need to do to have a red pearl? Thanks!
Also, what color of pearl? Red or silver, both?
You can add it to the paint for a more OEM look or to make a metallic color red or silver or both is fine or you would spray a clear coat over top and add the pearls in that to give it the same finish as you see in the video hope this helps and thanks for watching
Sir have you tried house clear coat on cars yet?
I have not but it could be a cool experiment for a future video thanks for watching
I just painted my track car with rustolem oil based paint cut with acetone...what clear do you recommend that won't react with the rustoleum. That's my biggest worry is having a reaction and having to start back at square one.
2k urethane clear coat works best on rustoleum thanks for watching
How much paint would you recommend if you are painting a vehicle? And can you add the flake or the pearl in the paint?
To be on the safe side a minimum of 2 quarts for a car and a gallon for a truck and yes if you want a more OEM look you can add the pearls or the flake into the paint itself thanks for watching
@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS you welcome anytime. Thank you for taking the time to teach us.
Cool vid, thanks, but now I have questions. Years ago you would by Metallic Auto paint and it was single stage. It was as if everything was in the paint and you thined it and sprayed. It included the metallic. that leads to the 1st question, was all factory metallic silver? I don' tknow but until Ford started doing gold in black it always seemed to have a silver look in the color. 2, what is the metallic? is it a pearl or a metalflake? It didn't look at big as what your micro flake looked I don't think but it was always called metallic, not pearl. I've asked others before and I never seem to get a good answer. Rustoleum has a marine paint called Top Side. I've used the navy blue to paint the tank on my race motorcycle and it turned out really nice but I would like to see that color with metallic only I'm not sure what I need to do to get it there. The bike is vintage and I'm looking to do it such that the metallic is in woth the paint not sprayed on top, LOL, if that makes sense. I may be asking questions you've not come across yet and that's fine but then again you may know and is why I'm asking, you already know alot more about it than I do.
Thanks, DC.
I'm pretty sure the whole concept of metallics when it comes to Pearls or micro flakes or even bigger really just deals with the sizes of the particles but the short answer to your question when it comes to most automotive paints is that the metallics in the paint are silver metallic paint which is really just very fine silver pearls being combined in a binder or clear liquid with a number of other colors and tints to create most unique colors which I know from mixing automotive paint at Napa. Things have evolved over the years with various pearl pigment to include white partical pearls used most commonly in ghost / interference pearls and color shift pearls. Originally yes most everything was just considered metallics all based in adding silver to create new colors and then over the years new additives were created given names to sort stuff out like Kandy paint which is pretty much a translucent dye of sorts. Most generic colors I would say if your looking to turn a basic color into a older metallic effect to add a good bit of silver or gold micro flakes or pearls if you want the smallest particle size into the base to create a old school custom effect or just visit your local Napa or paint store as most have books going back into the 40s of various paint options to create that period correct look your going for. I hope my info helped good luck with your project and thanks for watching.
@@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS thats great, thats exactly the answer I was looking for. Given the bike is a '72 model I want it to look like it if haven been painted back then. Glad I ran across your video, now I have a really good starting point. Thanks.
So you said it’s tractor trailer clear. Is that acrylic enamel Clearcoat??
Majic acrylic laquer clear coat it comes in quarts or gallons and there's a little can of hardener that goes with it also I've used most automotive clears over rustoleum they all work about the same just preference thanks for watching
Interested in the flake, was thinking of just adding it to the Rustoleum paint. Would this turn out or would you not be able to see the flake? Also if you have to put the flake in a clear, what about using the base coat the same color as the flake?
Good question yes it would work either way check out my video on making your own Rust-Oleum metallics that should answer a few of your questions thanks for watching
Subscribed! thank you.
Greatly appreciate it thanks
I've wanted to try a battle ship Gary with orange flake on it but not sure now. That blue didn't show up all that good but orange is a lighter color than blue. What do you think?
I think it would def be an interesting combination you just might have to do a lot for coverage over the gray but if you haven't already check out my follow up video where I create custom pearls I actually mix orange with blue as well.
New to the pearl/flake world. It would be good to know around what amount is a "little"
1 gram is a small amount most full scale gallon paint jobs take between 25 g and 50 g thanks for watching
Great video
The bid to repaint my old, but trusty pickup was $11,000! I just can’t afford that and it’s not worth that much.
Thanks
Were you buy your nason products and you pearles n flakes
Nason products come from Napa Auto parts and Pearl pingments from kp pigments and didspade online thanks for watching
Is there a benefit to painting flat black vs gloss black enamel as the base before spraying a pearl or flake intrecoat and clear
No there's no difference it's just what I had at the time
Ya I only rustoleum for engine compartment and frame type stuff not sure on a complete car
It's a great alternative if your on a budget and you know how to spray it. You can do some pretty cool things for cheap but the pearls and flakes I also use in automotive paint applications all the same. Regardless thanks for watching
It's great if your on a budget but all the same pearls and flakes can be used in automotive paint as well
I have painted cars for 60 years this is the same auto paint used back in 40's before then in the 60's you could by a gal for 8 bucks ande thinner for 3 bucks the only thing would say use a combo of thinner and acetone for good flow out. painted my ford truck 2 tone for 100 bucks add 2 oz of hardner per qt. i have painted many care with high dollar paint this will last longer than 2 stage .sorry for longed winded Bill
I definitely agree with everything you said. I forgot to mention that in my video that all automotive paint was previously oil based enamel lacquer etc. even some with lead back in the day before they started experimenting with different formulas also going to different mixes water based due to the environmental standards etc. Thanks for your comment and watching. 👍
@@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS great video look forward to mote thanks Bill
You only need a teaspoon of pearl or flake
Please get yourself a wireless microphone.
Working on upgrades thanks for watching
Ok wait a minute. You were supposed to do a tutorial on spraying pearl and metalic on Rustoleum but you didn't. Spray cans don't count WTF dude
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This is a full pearl paint job video I did sorry for any confusion but the purpose of this video was just to show the size difference between pearls and metallics when using Rust-Oleum spray paint through a can or gun. It will still give you the same results both ways they just have different dry times feel free to check out some of my other videos where I do the full pearl paint job such as the one above but I hope this helps clear up any confusion thanks for watching
Chill TF out “dude”
The guy is sharing solid info
@@dumpsterfire6351 thanks guys as I say in my videos if you guys want anything covered more in depth I will def make a video on it. Thanks for watching
Why didn't you clear the flake
This was just for test purposes I had a question asked about size difference of pearls vs flakes so I made a video to give ppl the general idea of what to expect thanks for watching
@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS have you ever mix mica powder with black basecoat and spray a car and then clear normal? Reason I ask brother is I'm in process of painting my car and I'm at the basecoat stage now and have ne v er mix with base just clear. What u think
@@itsjusti4262 you can but depending on the color base you use especially black the powder will become lost in it most the time unless you use a lot which at that point would work more like a factory color if that's the look your going for. Most ppl use it in the clear or an inter coat for more of an effect to manipulate the base to look like something completely different but yes either way works great just depends on the look your going for. Hope this answered your question.
@WHITLEYAUTOWORKS thanks brother.
You are welcome
Appreciate the tips and thanks for watching