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The History of EverQuest II

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 เม.ย. 2020
  • #EverQuest2 #Sony #Nickadimoose
    This is the History of EverQuest II, a retrospective for the spiritual successor to one of the most iconic MMORPGs of all time. Made by Sony Online Entertainment (come to be known as Daybreak Games eventually), a division of Sony, EverQuest II was a very different experience when compared against the original EverQuest.
    Nickadimoose will once again take you on a tour of Norrath and break down the bitter rivalry between competitor World of WarCraft, which released a mere 14 days after EverQuest II launched, and EverQuest II.
    Thanks and I'm sorry I couldn't bring you more. I'd have loved to find a trove of information about development decisions, anecdotes as to why they decided to change the original formula up so drastically or what made the decision to slowly morph into a WoW clone, but unfortunately nothing even close to that was ever published. If you have a source or piece of information you think could help, please send it my way.
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  • @mistymouse6840
    @mistymouse6840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    For me, Everquest 2 began to lose it'a shine when guild halls were introduced. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but afterwards the cities emptied, and you hardly had any random encounters with other players there anymore. Then they changed Freeport and Qeynos. I miss being able to hang out in the Baubleshire.

    • @ryanoconnor5256
      @ryanoconnor5256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed :3 as a total newbie all those years ago, seeing raids form on the docks and having an opportunity to interact with all of those players in that setting gave such an amazing atmosphere in game. I miss that very much.

    • @z0ttel89
      @z0ttel89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree so much

  • @UpbeatTempo
    @UpbeatTempo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember playing this game for 10+ years, starting at 5, loving every second playing this game. For the first like 6 months I played I couldn't get off Isle of Refugees because I was too scared to go towards the spiders that had the red around their name that were attack on sight LMAO. But went from that to being max level shadowknight as a 10 year old main tanking 2 ruhn theer in a pickup raid with my dad lmao. Loved the battlegrounds of this game too, the questing wasnt bad and the instances/zones like Tenebrous Tangle and Sanctum of the Scaleborn were so fun to run through. Honestly from level like 20 going to butcherblock mountains, to 30 going to enchanted lands and runnyeye, all the way up to 80s doing the mythic weapons quest and the places just before those were so fun. Everything about the game was so much fucking fun, I enjoyed it so much. I loved this game so much, favorite game of all time, and I wish I could go back in the day and play it because its fucking dead now :( or I wish I could atleast find a game thats similiar, but nothing sparks my interest :(

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God, at 5?! You were much younger than me, holy moly. That's really sweet lol, I'm glad you got to pal around in the world with your dad. We owned one computer growing up, so it was always a constant fight between my sister, my older brother and myself to get some EQ time in. I never told them (because you know...younger brother syndrome) but I always wanted to group up with them when I was younger and make a big family leveling party lol.

    • @delsin8768
      @delsin8768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same boat! I grew up watching my mom and aunt play, that’s how I learned to read 😂. My first and favorite character was a high elf warden my mom was going to delete.
      Nothing compared to coming home from school and waiting for everyone to log on for questing, I always miss voice chatting with people and them being surprised I was like 9 lol . I pray everyday to find a mmorpg that can spark the similar joy that eq2 had in the beginning.

  • @rockcandydays4414
    @rockcandydays4414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I grew up with Everquest 2, started playing when I was eleven, I'm twenty-five now, and I can honestly say this game literally saved my life. I remember starting in the Nursery in Greater Faydark, I remember how I felt then. I remember making my little fairy wizard, pink ponytail, soft green wings, I'd waited for hours for the game to download. I hadn't known at the time that I wasn't starting a new game, I was coming home for the first time.
    EQ2 has fallen apart, and I agree that as much as I love guild halls conceptually, it started falling off the rails when they came out due to erasing the visibility of the community. I've watched it bloom and wilt over and over, but it's become so corrupted. The saddest part is there are clear-cut and simple means to fix EQ2, it could easily return to it's hay-day, the market is there, but its mismanagement only becomes worse. Deflating the economy should have been done eons back, instead they made it worse with kronos and plat-bags, the initial promise of never allowing marketplace items to have stats was nearly immediately broken, features falling by the wayside over and over, battlegrounds, dungeon-maker, Legends of Norrath, and most regrettably the Maj'dul arenas.
    Mercenaries, Guild Halls, the City changes, World-Bells, Plat Bags, Kronos, and a failure to resolve the economy post-exploit have all contributed. I still log in now and again, I remember when I was little welling up with anxiety over the fear that someday the game would be sunset and I'd lose all I cherished most. Somehow, after everything that's happened to the game, now that it's just big empty rooms full of monsters... I find it hard to care anymore.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm really sorry. I hope, one day, that we see EverQuest return back to form, but I feel that it can't be when the title rights are held by Daybreak. I can't blame them either, making an MMORPG is expensive, milking one by just keeping the servers alive and having someone work on expansions in the basement somewhere out of sight however is just easy money. They know they have a dedicated fanbase who love the games too much to leave them.
      I wish you had the game back that you loved and the experience that you loved.

    • @rockcandydays4414
      @rockcandydays4414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NPCGamingGroup1 Appreciated, and if you're still looking for information on the game, I'd be happy to share what I know, and perhaps provide some leads.

  • @NPCGamingGroup1
    @NPCGamingGroup1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As usual I'll never ask anyone to subscribe during a video (I've always hated the practice). However, if you enjoyed the content, I'd love for you to stick around for the next one.
    A quick side note about the video: if you have any sources you can link me to more development history I may have overlooked, feel free to message me, leave a comment here or just find me on Reddit. I'm honestly desperate to find more information about EverQuest II. I'm fascinated by this game and why there's so little information about it available.

  • @Alexander-ix2jp
    @Alexander-ix2jp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    EQ2 is such an underrated game. Come back to EQ1 and 2 ppl, the world(s) of Norrath needs you!

  • @badtupram
    @badtupram 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Best mmo I ever played and the most fun I've ever had in a game. There will never be another. Even if a game developer makes a new mmo that has the same feel as EQII with really new dynamic graphics and animations on an incredible game engine. And even if they bring back that old school vibe it will still never be the same. It was 2004 and the world was a much different place. Online communities were much different as well. Today people are not nearly as forgiving, kind to others, generous, and honorable. Real-world or game world. It won't get better either. It was a glorious time and this game was really fun for the first few expansions. There will never be another.

    • @UpbeatTempo
      @UpbeatTempo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. I played this game from the age of 5 because my dad played it, played for 10+ years and LOVED it. I wish there was a game somewhat similiar that I could come back to now that I can actually understand the game to enjoy it now that I'm older.

    • @martinwinther6013
      @martinwinther6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and you can still see this in eq2. yes, theres trolls. but theres also a ton of people who spend hours helping a vet with an update or just a stack of bags for the new player. the community is like nothing ive seen before or since, and people shakes heads and look weird at me when i try to bring that to a nre game. freaking love the franchise

    • @UpbeatTempo
      @UpbeatTempo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martinwinther6013 EQ2 community has always been great. I remember being little, from like 5-10 growing up and always having my dads friends and guild talk to me like I was family, always messaging me asking how I'm doing and if I needed help with anything. So happy I grew up on this game more than things like Call of Duty and other games people my age are into lmao. Just wish this game was more popular nowadays since I'm older and can actually understand the game now.

  • @casualcadaver
    @casualcadaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2007-2010 Era of Everquest was truly magical. One of my favorite gaming memories ever, nothing will ever touch it. The sense of wonder and exploration is unmatched.

  • @sinnedam
    @sinnedam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a launch day player. On dial up. I recently started on the new tlp server and it’s bringing back good memories so far.

  • @SugarRot
    @SugarRot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you're a former EQ2 player looking for a similar community feel to at launch EQ2, PLEASE come give Guild Wars 2 a chance. It's experiencing a really great era in its lifespan and reminds me so much of my happiest EQ2 days.

  • @DrFrankenschtein
    @DrFrankenschtein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, definitely need a part 2 (and 3)! I'd love to keep watching. Thanks!

  • @georgecarlin3668
    @georgecarlin3668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    from 2004 to 2006 was the best EQ2...I prefer the original version of EQ2,hard...really hard and funny,I have enjoy so much.

  • @dallonavery1482
    @dallonavery1482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still remember that one article from my first games magazine with the review of EQ2. Holy shit I was captivated by everything there was in the game that the review listed. I memorized the screenshots, the art used in that article, but I knew that I had no chance to play the game, I didn't have an opportunity to pay monthly subscriptions for whatever games required them (hello EvE and WoW) and on top of that my PC wasn't good enough. Even in 2011 when the game went free to play, I still couldn't run the game on high settings. EQ2 is dear to me, even though I never really played it seriously. But I also never liked WoW.
    So I am hoping that someday, the next Everquest (yeah I remember that one) will come and it will earn the love and multi-million player base that it always deserved.

  • @WesleyWyndam-Pryce
    @WesleyWyndam-Pryce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any lurkers out there wondering if the game is still alive, come to the progression server. It's the window into the past and populated. We're in Kunark and soon to enter the Shadow Odyssey. We're not dead yet and would love to have you return home.

    • @Gyva02
      @Gyva02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad it wouldn't just stop at Kunark/TSO it seems everything past that is when the bloat was added in...

  • @mezz8867
    @mezz8867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2004-2010 was the best time of my gaming life with eq2 I miss it so much. Its just not the same anymore even with TLE

  • @timwynn6079
    @timwynn6079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh man, this theme song brings me back lots of memories during my college years, hope to play it again for the old time's sakes.

  • @roboparks
    @roboparks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EQ2 was really designed to be Combination PVP and PVE. To modernize a lot of the mechanics especially Trade Skills. Which were clumsy in EQ1 . But It was its PVP that was real a gem (EQ1 had terrible PVP environment) . But the rule set and economy didn't match a Red environment because Sony kept pushing for new expansions to sell instead of trying to maintain subs. And A lot of exploits that were not fixed and lack of maintenance killed it EQ2 Red or PVP . Vs Say EVE Online were its maintained daily.

  • @siskavard
    @siskavard ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember you had to sit in your player home logged in if you wanted to sell your crafted items. I used to keep my character logged in over night, & the sound of someone purchasing my items !!CHING!! would sometimes wake me up in the middle of the night 😄 It was a fun time.

  • @Shrugknight
    @Shrugknight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This really sums up the eq2 experience on a meta lvl. You don't give much of a history and talked about WOW most of the video. Personally feel it was the best mmorpg ever made up until about 2011ish, but unbelievably bad management and no marketing didn't help it much.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only no marketing, but no hyping either. EQ Next, a game that never existed, had more information in essentially two press releases than I could find over the course of EQ2's entire life. I went to archived sites, fan sites, forums, dug through developer diaries, EQ2Wire + forums and then...blank, nothing.
      So ultimately I had a choice: make a 2 minute video about EQ 2 just talking plainly about the release dates, the fact you could order pizza and correlate that with the developer documentary (which was laughably light on details) or run it against WoW and frame the games as a head to head vs. match. Personally I feel I made the right/only decision I could to deliver something.
      Still, I'm sorry I couldn't dig up more on the subject. I wish I could've delivered something else.

  • @sicklikephee7855
    @sicklikephee7855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *shrugs* I've been playing eq2 for almost 15 years now, there has yet been a game that has captured my interest like this one, the search continues, pantheon looks promising, but only time will tell.

  • @Harrysound
    @Harrysound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played like 800 hours of EQ2. Still remember The castle raid. Brilliant game. I had a top spec PC at the time too and yes it chugged but wow it looked good.

  • @TebTengri
    @TebTengri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I missed EQ 1 as I was playing Ultima Online but have so many good memories of EQ2.
    Just started playing again, got to level 22 and locked my level by 100% XP to AA so I can do all the low level zones and remember

  • @leobrad2199
    @leobrad2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This my first mmo game and I miss the game as it was at the time, people everywhere, everyone helping others do things, I really miss that time frame when it first released.

  • @martinpospisil3747
    @martinpospisil3747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One can only dream of what would EQ would be if they continued like Final Fantasy. It would be a amzing havin a rival to Wow. Now the only thing we have is ESO or GW2. The rest is pretty much eastern MMOs.

  • @kizunadragon9
    @kizunadragon9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Problem number 1. the team lost the design docs so updating or changing the engine became a tedious chore.
    Problem number 2, EQ2 was designed at a time when CPU's were exploding in power and speed, we were seeing multi core CPU's for the first time, so the devs made EQ2 very CPU heavy figuring in a few years we would see 8, 10, or even 16 core CPUS... that didn't really happen.
    Thats why framerate was in the toilet for so long, they made the game for hardware that didn't exist.

  • @z0ttel89
    @z0ttel89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved EQ2 at release because people were actually roleplaying and the housing was great, our guild leader turned her house into a bar and every evening, our whole guild would gather in that bar and chat and have a great time, it was amazing (we were playing on the german server 'Valor' back then fyi).
    Unfortunately, everything that made EQ2 unique was stripped away after a while and the game became more and more casual ... in the beginning, lots of quest weren't even soloable, but that all changed and then the game just became.. well.. boring and empty.

  • @geoffcapon5003
    @geoffcapon5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eq2 was my first mmo and it got me hooked, the game was awesome. Desert of flames and Kingdom's of sky were the best expansions, nice big shared dungeons and decent quest lines. Sony made 2 big mistakes with eq2 and they were guild halls and instanced dungeons.

  • @Tuttifrutti_Extrafruchtig
    @Tuttifrutti_Extrafruchtig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EQ and DAoC are forever in my heart

  • @adamdauphinais5842
    @adamdauphinais5842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I play all 3 from time to time. Have love for all of these games

  • @spenserlol
    @spenserlol 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Underrated channel 4 sure.

  • @Doomxeen
    @Doomxeen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great! Now I'm sad!

  • @LotBoy87
    @LotBoy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Star Wars Galaxies

  • @AsheCraftingCorner
    @AsheCraftingCorner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For anyone wanting to play EQ2,play the Time Locked Servers

  • @Twiztid0385
    @Twiztid0385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Shadow Odyssey was my favorite expansion

    • @WesleyWyndam-Pryce
      @WesleyWyndam-Pryce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      About to enter the Shadow Odyssey on the progression server next month.

  • @thenewguyinred
    @thenewguyinred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Knowing all the disgusting sh*t WoW and more specifically Activision Blizzard have been up to, I wouldn’t be surprised if people are slowly migrating back to Everquest 2.

    • @iamplaceholder
      @iamplaceholder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, as much as I wish you were right, they're all moving to FFXIV. Every single server is overflowing since the launch of Endwalker expansion.

  • @wakasasha5734
    @wakasasha5734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So odd that this person keeps comparing Everquest II with World of Warcraft when they are such different games and nobody happy in EQ2 is gonna find what's making them so satisfied in WoW. Like let's see your finely decorated homes in WoW? Let's see your great crafting abilities? That may be there, I can't remember anymore but I think of WoW as a strictly fighting game and of Everquest as an EVERYTHING done well game.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you look up the history of the game and attempt to dig into any developer commentary, you won't find much out there. There's a documentary with laughably light information on why they did X, why they pushed forward making the game, just...nothing. The old forums don't talk about it. The archived sites don't talk about it. The fan-sites don't talk about it.
      WoW and EQ II are separate games, I get that, but the tight release window between the two made them direct competitors. An MMO's profits/success is measured on the backs of how many subscribers they pull in and maintain. EQ II did not survive that fight for long. Had they released earlier or even delayed the project for later, the market analysis wouldn't have them fighting Blizzard. As this was the only information on the games' development history I could find, it made the most sense to make something from it. It wasn't what I wanted to make, it wasn't what I wanted to deliver, but it's the only information I could find out there.

  • @zeo1987
    @zeo1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember wanting to get eq2 but my computer at the time couldn't handle it, then all the sudden wow comes out and it's cartoony design was a turn off but I liked the idea of each class having drastically different abilities and roles to fill. Not to mention my computer could actually run it without bursting into a flaming blue screen.

  • @eybietie
    @eybietie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that fucking music is burned into my soul lmao

  • @bobafettsbiggestfan9009
    @bobafettsbiggestfan9009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    F in the chat for WoW, Champions of Norrath Forever!

  • @z3nji
    @z3nji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yikes, if you are going to make a video labeled EQ2 history. You may want to get the history correct. The Bloodline Chronicles were not the first expansion, neither was The Splitpaw Saga, those were adventure packs. The first Expansion was Desert of Flames, the next expansion was Kingdom of Sky, then the Fallen Dynasty adventure pack, then Echoes of Faydwer expansion. ALL were released prior too The Burning Crusade for WoW.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback my dude! Love to hear from folks, especially since Pobody's Nerfect and eventually something can and will be found that we said was wrong. Sometimes it gets lost in the script revisions, editing, and staging. Kind of like how in old Disney films editors who had to spend hours didn't notice animation faux pas like the Littler Mermaid penis castle. Sometimes you miss stuff. Either way, thanks for the feedback!

  • @mmorpgg
    @mmorpgg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually loved early EQ2, up to Kingdom of Sky. Kinda lost interest after that. Great video though!

  • @youngkingdom8131
    @youngkingdom8131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well that was depressing.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, sorry, mate. =/ I wish I had a more triumphant note to hit during this video, but I couldn't find anything to twist together outside of development note scraps. This is the video that hurts me the most--despite months of information hunting--finding nothing but anecdotes was a real buzzkill for me personally.

  • @Thalasius
    @Thalasius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One cannot live in the past forever

  • @Jayson_Uzumaki
    @Jayson_Uzumaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No mentions of swg?

  • @IvanGarcia-ek6os
    @IvanGarcia-ek6os 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WoW vanilla was crap in comparison with EQ2 vanilla.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly I wouldn't know. I was playing FFXI, then I moved over to WoW a month or so before TBC arrived.

  • @christophermosier3754
    @christophermosier3754 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah Smedley can GFH

  • @mifo2069
    @mifo2069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best EQ2 was 2004-2005,...to many change ruined this game,and in 2008 i stop to follow this game.

  • @bigbadbovine
    @bigbadbovine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not a very thorough history. Why was EQII even made? We dunno, Daybreak canned everybody that knows about that stuff years ago.

    • @godsgreenleaf
      @godsgreenleaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This this this.

    • @NPCGamingGroup1
      @NPCGamingGroup1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I could give a thorough history on EQII. I reached out to former devs, Felden at EQ2Wire and scoured numerous old forums, archived websites, archived forums, etc., and there's just nothing out there. As I mentioned in another comment I had three positions of attack I could take due to the information available:
      1) Not make a video at all, which would waste months and months of research.
      2) Compare World of WarCraft against EQ II and maybe expound on why EQ II never reached a critical mass of popularity. Given the tight release windows, it was a fair read into the market to say EQ II was posited as a direct competitor against World of WarCraft. I felt like this angle gave me something to work with and would at least, maybe, pass on information to people they didn't previously know.
      3) Make a 2-4 minute video talking exclusively about the pizza ordering option, the expansions, the advent of adventure packs and so on. I've found I really hate doing this type of video (see History of From Soft for example).
      Still, I am sorry I couldn't deliver a video with more substance. I tried my best.

    • @CharGwyl
      @CharGwyl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NPCGamingGroup1 I think a lot of it was that games lasting as long as WoW and EQ have was totally unheard of back then. Usually boxed games would be released and if companies made profit off them, work would start on a sequel game. Very few MMO's existed then, so the thought of supporting a live game like Everquest for 20+ years would have seen like a completely out there idea. If they released EQ2 in 2004, that was likely a minimum of 2 or 3 years work so they likely didn't expect EQ to stay popular for so long and began work on a sequel just a year or two after release.
      Either way, this was a really interesting video! I recently started playing EQ2 for the first time as a complete newcomer to the series (Previously Runescape, GW2, WoW) a few days ago and I've been having a blast with it. The game definitely still has a lot of magic to it, even all these years later.

  • @Goatyoey
    @Goatyoey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow was just the better overall game...

  • @afitlin
    @afitlin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This clip is not a history of EQ2. it is more like bait click, what you talk about is common knowlege for most people. SHAME

  • @wade6523
    @wade6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everquest 2 was garbage made for the cry babies of EQ1.