The fact that uThermal can go toe-to-toe with GM players at a 50% handicap, but then requires a 30% handicap to go on equal footing against the best pro really drives home how much better the pro players are than a typical GM player
I loughed so hard on this one. Uthermal says "I think he doesn't have that much units left" and hordes of zerlings and banelings flood like 5 more minutes. He was still maxed when the game was over.
A tank is differentiated from an APC by its main gun. The job of a tank is direct fire support. The armor is there so it would win against any non tank vehickles.
It feelt like a twitch chat gm (so low plat) versus an actual high masters player. But then the lower player was an actual gm and still got his butt handed to him.
I can hardly watch a 15-20 minute video from any other creator, but your videos are so full of positive energy and so entertaining that I can watch 1/2hours easily and still thirst for more! Please, continue doing what you do! I tried playing SC2 thinking I got this from Marc but then I get heavily owned by hard bots😅 Great content my friend!
Ya that was to me one of the most extreme examples I've seen of how dominant Serral is. Thermy looked to be playing pretty well, and then you see the units lost and the bank for Serral... so humbling.
I don't think this challenge works with tvt, even at a 10% hp nerf you probably just die to reapers every game. Clem has crazy reaper micro but the snowball effect with reaper and hellion health is too strong in tvt.
This video is amazing man I have always wondered what the skill diff would be like cause you do crazy good on ladder. Serral is so awesome what an incredible mind he has. Thanks for this one def one of my favorite videos so far keep it up!
This has compelled me to send some $ the expensive content we needed 😄 Serral is brutal!! Great idea, would love to see this against other competing pros!
Such a great idea, so fun. His creep spread 5 minutes in is crazy. He jumps on your tanks so fast too... it's like as soon as they aren't sieged you're dead. He really is amazing.
I played SC2 singleplayer over a decade ago and have not touched it since. Yet I tune in for each of these videos. Great entertainment value. Love Marc!
One of the best videos you've done to date. You helped me reignite my love of SC2 been watching you and LowkoTV more and more. Love your challenges and your cheeses ✌️🤓
The way Serral is constantly on top of everything while I remember losing games to simple stuff like a drop and a couple of reapers harassing at the same time... Wtf.
Yea, never played Starcraft, but I can never play Chen or Meepo in Dota2 and in Age of Empires II I just a move my trash units to enemy base while microing a few gold ones and thats the most micro I can do.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 For me the problem is my micro is decent, but when I micro I don't macro and the other way around. I can also just micro at 1 location at a time or I devolve into either retreating everyone or a-moving everyone and not looking at it (I'd like to say to go macro but it's more like staring at the screen, wallowing in my shame and disappointment).
I'm honestly rather surprised you didn't win at 20%, but this really does highlight just how big the difference is between low GM that you can beat with a 50% handicap, you at high GM and the best in the world that you need a 30% handicap to beat.
Dude... just looking at the games it just feels so damn cramped vs Serral. Solid, impenetrable defense everywhere. Insane. Also that cyclone dancing vs lurkers was real cute lmao
I am just a like 10 years ago gold/plat player with obviously not idea about the game. That being said I ve seen a lot of streams. Still it is so extreme that uthermal is beating grandmasters with ease and with serral he just hits a solid brick wall... I do not even understand how this is even possible. Seeing Uthermal destroy ppl while being "out of shape" makes him look invincible... and then this... incredible Cudos to both of you.
One day ago Uthermal, this is something else ! (it felt sad the way he rolled the damn championship, like everyone else were playing some other game) - I'm just a simple watcher, and man did people make some mistakes against him this time... not to downplay his damn skill lol, he's inventing new stuff every damn championship ! hope to see you guys for years to come
That was a crazy challenge and show how good Serral is. Should we consider Uthermal being at 70% of Serral power level? x) That was a great series, thanks for the fun. ^^
Just started watching, awesome. uThermal v the GOAT. 1:22 long I'm guessing you don't win the first few lol but I bet you win eventually! This is like watching a superbowl back in the day when I watched football
What a fantastic idea!! Unbelievable how good Serral is O.O Thermy, your tendency to torture yourself is really entertaining!! :-D Please do this with other top player again, this was so cool!
OMG this was awesome!!! Serral is definitely crazy and scary even though I think Uthermal is the best as multitasking in my opinion.. I love your multi-pronged attacks.. It was crazy to see Serral ready for the drops and all...
Reminds me of my footy days. I would run around guys with ease, then I met a player who would run a 10-second 100m. He did to me what I would do to them. Ha ha ha.
This has got to be one of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen, a great example of JUST how good the best players in star craft are compared to even great grandmasters, absolutely nuts
Damn that was fun hahaha, when I looked at the bench I thought Serraliba was going to win that last game too, it was close 😂. It's great how you always manage to make a funny video 👍
at 10:20 when he mentioned Serral has 6 bases i got flashbacks of Artosis sitting on 2 bases in the 30th minute mark while his opponent is on his 6th.)
haha this was awesome man, mark u are awesome and serral you are.....super awesome. this was one of my favorite games ive ever watched. love you both ^_^ keep rockin it brothers!!
IRL tanks arent meant to tank too. They are direct fire support. They carry a gun infantry cant. They have armor so they would win if encountering an unarmored enemy vehickle.
@@lelouchvibritannia7809 at like the 1 hour 15 minute mark. =) The entire show he was talking about fearing Lurkers, and only at the 1/2 way mark of game 3 did he build a raven. =))
Scans are just better than ravens in the lategame vs. zerg. If the ravens get close enough to do anything then they'll get abducted and killed, which is much more expensive than a scan (the resources gained from a mule would be less valuable than the cost of a raven, and in addition to that when we're talking about the lategame running out of mineral fields to gather from that can be defended is also a consideration). It's not like pro players somehow haven't thought of building ravens.. they've tried it before, and it didn't work out well. You're imagining that pro players somehow never tried building ravens, but in reality it's the other way around - they already tried doing that, and what you're seeing are the adaptations they made after they already tried and failed to use ravens.
A joke a few years ago was that Serral plays as if he has 2 heads and 4 arms. You can probably see why that joke landed because it's jaw-dropping just how fast and precise Serral's gameplay is.
26:58 - My man, you may not be the "best Terran" in the world. But you are humble. You are still considered top 50 in the whole world. That's considerably impressive in it's own right.
wow , thats a very nice format, pretty cool you got the GOAT on ur channel , impressive and a honor , my YT Goat thermy vs da best SC player ever - shout out to serral for be a part ❤ , damn good idea , i love your always find new ways and challenges =) - i follow you for years now n you re a sc2 creativiy genius =) , happy you still with sc2 so active and i love the variety of ur content 😊 grateful greetings
Hey Marc :D I have a question regarding coaching. I havent played SC2 normal for almost a decade (except Co-op) and thinking about trying to get into the game. I think I can climb atleast to Plat pretty fast since I have ALOT of RTS experience over the years. I was thinking about you coaching me multiple times (from start to finish maybe?) which may well exceed the 3 or 4 coaching sessions, depending on how high I want or have to climb on the ladder. Is there any way to realize that? Obviously for money of course (Yes, I have seen the prices on your metafy and expect it to be higher in my case, probably). Like regularly coaching sessions and me climbing in between as high as I can. I can also write you an email if thats better in regard to that topic. Also if you can get anything out of it like for youtube, I wouldnt mind aswell since I couldnt care less about that. Best Greetings A Uthermal Content Lover xD
Fundraiser is up to get Marc a nice fancy box to live in.
You have to be careful encouraging him, or Marc's new video will be how many fancy boxes do I have to lose to Serral to beat him with a new race.
What type of box are we talking here? Refrigerator box or a dishwasher box? 🤪😆
LOL
@@JSp4wN It's clearly a padded box as you can see 57:58
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅@@WandererTheLost
Ooof just looked at the length of this video and can already tell it's going to be expensive 😂
The single cyclone dodging the lurker spikes was peak StarCraft
01:16:18 Awesome!
A1
The fact that uThermal can go toe-to-toe with GM players at a 50% handicap, but then requires a 30% handicap to go on equal footing against the best pro really drives home how much better the pro players are than a typical GM player
Serral is on a league of his own though. He is better than even the typical pro player. Let alone any GM player.
I think it's like Chess, Chess Rating is exponential with regard to skill level, I suspect SC2 MMR is similar.
Beastyqt made a video about skill gap between ranked players and top pro players. Turns out the gap is way bigger than I would have thought.
@@Okatogurui you've got the link ?
There's pro players, and there are people like Serral and Maru. They're another tier above xD
I loughed so hard on this one. Uthermal says "I think he doesn't have that much units left" and hordes of zerlings and banelings flood like 5 more minutes. He was still maxed when the game was over.
Awesome you managed to get Serral to do this, but it would have been good to bring him on and talk to him in the video as well.
For sure, a little vídeo chat between matchs
he might cooking his breakfast while doing this
Pillow talk is extra 🤑
Lol "tanks do what they do, which is surprisingly not tank" that's a brilliant quote!
A tank is differentiated from an APC by its main gun. The job of a tank is direct fire support. The armor is there so it would win against any non tank vehickles.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Also "brilliant" is a quality of lighting, but I think we all understood what he meant pretty well
The cyclone dancing around the lurkers was one of the best things I've seen in SC2
I once saw one of thermy's opponents interference matrix a ghost to stop a nuke. Was unreal
Reminds me of SlayerBoxer in BW with marines against lurkers.
Though I bet Serral's laughing as Thermy spends 30 seconds microing a single cyclone!
timestamp? :)
@@davidtyleryork 1:16:22
I've never actually watched a full game from someone who is playing against Serral. That is truly terrifying to watch lol.
It feelt like a twitch chat gm (so low plat) versus an actual high masters player. But then the lower player was an actual gm and still got his butt handed to him.
@draigevykhait6141 the lower player isn't just a gm, but someone who beats gm's doing funky challenges.
@@Zwijger Uthermal is an ex-pro. ex-pro vs top 1
Peter the scout LOL
That 1 hp cyclone killing 3 lurkers is the real MVP
I can hardly watch a 15-20 minute video from any other creator, but your videos are so full of positive energy and so entertaining that I can watch 1/2hours easily and still thirst for more!
Please, continue doing what you do!
I tried playing SC2 thinking I got this from Marc but then I get heavily owned by hard bots😅
Great content my friend!
sad thing people cant focus more then 15min
@@john0000011111 yep! Shorts/reels did their work 🥲
Uthermal: It's $100 per loss.
Me looking at the video length: 👀👉🔥💵
Sa va Serral et sympa il fait traîner en longueur les parties 😂😂😂
@@anthonylaine6111 Serral se régale :)
OMG your enthusiasm and happiness at the end is so amazing. Best show yet!
Marc- "if I end up in the late game one more time I am going to Uninstall the game)
Me- looks down and sees 30 more minutes of video length...
Yay, you got that creep tumor in Game 1! That counts as a win vs Serral :P
That's all that matters.
That’s 1 more tumour than I ever got lol
I like how g2 seemed somewhat reasonable for a moment from uThermal's perspective and then he taps out and Serral has 15k/8k resources in the bank. 😂
Ya that was to me one of the most extreme examples I've seen of how dominant Serral is. Thermy looked to be playing pretty well, and then you see the units lost and the bank for Serral... so humbling.
Yeah i almost thought thermy was winning for a sec.
Serral: Uthermal using ghosts? What madness is this?
Uthermal: *throws nukes around*
Serral: Makes sense.
Marc, you are the GOAT for making this challenge, no matter what your wallet seems to think
this comment is top tier!
I think I could beat Serral on the 10th time when his units get a 100% health reduction. Great content 😄.
Man, watching uThermal is like he's the Boogeyman to GMs
But this guy....he's the Baba Yaga
This is exactly what I love from your channel, thanks.
Do all the matchups! Get Clem and Maxpax to play the challenge, this was seriously so fun to watch.
You gotta super to bankroll that kinda project
I don't think this challenge works with tvt, even at a 10% hp nerf you probably just die to reapers every game. Clem has crazy reaper micro but the snowball effect with reaper and hellion health is too strong in tvt.
This video is amazing man I have always wondered what the skill diff would be like cause you do crazy good on ladder. Serral is so awesome what an incredible mind he has. Thanks for this one def one of my favorite videos so far keep it up!
This has compelled me to send some $ the expensive content we needed 😄 Serral is brutal!! Great idea, would love to see this against other competing pros!
"All I saw was cyclones running around mate" Damn I would cry if Serral roasted me that hard.
this video is great, great concept, intense drama, rooting for you to start then more and more for serral with bigger handicaps. so fun
Thanks!
That's an amazing format! I wish to see more of it.
Serral : "I was just roaching"
hahahahahahahahahahahah
Peak starcraft
"Serral is going burrowed infestors so I'll get a raven"
uThermal better than Maru confirmed
This was so entertaining! Please do more! Reynor! Dark! Scarlett! I'm LMAO!
U thermal needs to do this challenge with other great players like Maru and classic
No, vs us. But Marc gets handicapped
@@boreduser12 he does do those
@@nathanstretch cool. Looked through his videos and looks like he just did it 6 days ago. Wish he'd do one at 10% against gold.
Bro wanted uthermal to live in a box
Yoooo against Maru would be sick!!!
Such a great idea, so fun. His creep spread 5 minutes in is crazy. He jumps on your tanks so fast too... it's like as soon as they aren't sieged you're dead. He really is amazing.
thank you for making this. I hope you recoup your expanses on this video. Happy that people are still making great Sc2 content
I played SC2 singleplayer over a decade ago and have not touched it since. Yet I tune in for each of these videos. Great entertainment value. Love Marc!
One of the best videos you've done to date. You helped me reignite my love of SC2 been watching you and LowkoTV more and more. Love your challenges and your cheeses ✌️🤓
So cool idea! Was really great to watch! Thank you uThermal and Serral!
Since I started watching you in September 2022 I waited for a video with Serral. Thanks for the vid.
38:14 Lowko would be proud
Using Reaven in TvZ and spotting Infestors
When he said his goal was to preserve his ego at the start I swear I heard "Preserving my Eco". He failed at both
uthermal has a massive ego. He genuinely thought he outplayed handicapped Serral by driving around cyclones for nearly 2 hours :D
The way Serral is constantly on top of everything while I remember losing games to simple stuff like a drop and a couple of reapers harassing at the same time... Wtf.
Yea, never played Starcraft, but I can never play Chen or Meepo in Dota2 and in Age of Empires II I just a move my trash units to enemy base while microing a few gold ones and thats the most micro I can do.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 For me the problem is my micro is decent, but when I micro I don't macro and the other way around. I can also just micro at 1 location at a time or I devolve into either retreating everyone or a-moving everyone and not looking at it (I'd like to say to go macro but it's more like staring at the screen, wallowing in my shame and disappointment).
"Until I destroy him". Looks at vid duration, 1h23 min KEKW
thermy my man, you could please add last minute short interviews with these, that could be interesting
The 'short' video you will make of the 1 HP cyclone owning those 3 lurkers, will earn back those 300$ in an instant.
3 lurker* 👌
@@tuzph8625 whoops. Changed it. Thanks :).
Serral looks almost invulnerable, it's insane! These games were so cool, thanks Marc :)
I'm honestly rather surprised you didn't win at 20%, but this really does highlight just how big the difference is between low GM that you can beat with a 50% handicap, you at high GM and the best in the world that you need a 30% handicap to beat.
Dude... just looking at the games it just feels so damn cramped vs Serral. Solid, impenetrable defense everywhere. Insane.
Also that cyclone dancing vs lurkers was real cute lmao
we all won today
That was really fun! I like the reversal of your usual thing.
Awesome video. Didn't look at the time all video and was so rooting for you in games 3+
I am just a like 10 years ago gold/plat player with obviously not idea about the game. That being said I ve seen a lot of streams. Still it is so extreme that uthermal is beating grandmasters with ease and with serral he just hits a solid brick wall... I do not even understand how this is even possible.
Seeing Uthermal destroy ppl while being "out of shape" makes him look invincible... and then this... incredible
Cudos to both of you.
One day ago Uthermal, this is something else ! (it felt sad the way he rolled the damn championship, like everyone else were playing some other game) - I'm just a simple watcher, and man did people make some mistakes against him this time... not to downplay his damn skill lol, he's inventing new stuff every damn championship ! hope to see you guys for years to come
Imagine a guy with 30% handicap be able to put this much struggle for you in a TvZ game. Serral is something beyond crazy 🔥
Great video! Btw, how did you only boost your medivacs with units at 29:21? :o
Insane format! Looking forward to you battling Reynor, Clem and Astrea. Epic! Thank you!
I want a Survival Challenge with Serral and Grandmasters
he can probably beat like 3 4500 mmr players
@@darrell5363 no
Focusing on banes and spellcasters was smart since they don't really care about their health. Roaches only for the full health game.
That was a crazy challenge and show how good Serral is.
Should we consider Uthermal being at 70% of Serral power level? x)
That was a great series, thanks for the fun. ^^
Alternative title: Washed up knight drops a game to a walking meme.
Seriously though, that was impressive.
It's impressive how well you play while explaining and commentating.
amazing idea.
edit: serral is truly a god amongst men in sc2
Just started watching, awesome. uThermal v the GOAT. 1:22 long I'm guessing you don't win the first few lol but I bet you win eventually! This is like watching a superbowl back in the day when I watched football
lol, this is the best premise for an episode ever, I love you Marc
I think that Ultralisk skin you commented was from original SC -anyway ty for great entertaning video!
This was amazing. I love your creative content. It's always great to see some more unusual stuff! 🙂
What a fantastic idea!! Unbelievable how good Serral is O.O
Thermy, your tendency to torture yourself is really entertaining!! :-D
Please do this with other top player again, this was so cool!
This is actually educational, much love to both of you
46:00 That moment of realization😂. Ngl i was expecting a bank of 7k max for serral. But that was hilariously absurd💀
anything with serral involved beckons me from the darkness to view it
Awsome concept for a video. You did very well serral is bonkers 😂
This video is insanly satisfying. ty Thermy for doing the highest quality content for us
46:00 is so disheartening, lol. I really thought it was closer for a second.
OMG this was awesome!!! Serral is definitely crazy and scary even though I think Uthermal is the best as multitasking in my opinion.. I love your multi-pronged attacks.. It was crazy to see Serral ready for the drops and all...
This is the first time I have noticed how much you click the minimap to jump locations which really makes me feel better about myself :)
Honestly very cool to watch you play that level. Serral is quite the adversary
Nicely done, I enjoyed watching this a lot!
What a cool video idea, crazy to see the differences. Great games!!
I want to see a rematch honestly just because knowing serral he has sat there figuring out how to beat that at a 30% handicap
previous game i saw was uthermal only using widow mines and planetary steamrolling a GM and then you see this.. so many lvls to this
Reminds me of my footy days. I would run around guys with ease, then I met a player who would run a 10-second 100m. He did to me what I would do to them. Ha ha ha.
This has got to be one of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen, a great example of JUST how good the best players in star craft are compared to even great grandmasters, absolutely nuts
Damn that was fun hahaha, when I looked at the bench I thought Serraliba was going to win that last game too, it was close 😂.
It's great how you always manage to make a funny video 👍
Super fun watch. Unreal how good he is. For that matter, unreal how good you are too but damn Serral is insanely good
at 10:20 when he mentioned Serral has 6 bases i got flashbacks of Artosis sitting on 2 bases in the 30th minute mark while his opponent is on his 6th.)
haha this was awesome man, mark u are awesome and serral you are.....super awesome. this was one of my favorite games ive ever watched. love you both ^_^ keep rockin it brothers!!
IRL tanks arent meant to tank too. They are direct fire support. They carry a gun infantry cant. They have armor so they would win if encountering an unarmored enemy vehickle.
Looking forward to part II, starting with 70% and going down :D Just a great video! Would love to see a x vs. Serral as well!
Just noticed it's hour and 20 minutes, on one hand SWEET, on the other, Oh NO!
Money well spent! That was so awesome to watch. Well played!
"I'm terrified of Lurkers. I don't deal with Lurkers well. Lurkers drove me into retirement." refuses to build ravens... =)))
He built Ravens
@@lelouchvibritannia7809 at like the 1 hour 15 minute mark. =) The entire show he was talking about fearing Lurkers, and only at the 1/2 way mark of game 3 did he build a raven. =))
@@gabeowens9248because raven was not good here? Serral nad vipers already, its better to use scans than donate 150 vespane
The lenghts terrans will go to avoid building raves should be studied
Scans are just better than ravens in the lategame vs. zerg. If the ravens get close enough to do anything then they'll get abducted and killed, which is much more expensive than a scan (the resources gained from a mule would be less valuable than the cost of a raven, and in addition to that when we're talking about the lategame running out of mineral fields to gather from that can be defended is also a consideration).
It's not like pro players somehow haven't thought of building ravens.. they've tried it before, and it didn't work out well. You're imagining that pro players somehow never tried building ravens, but in reality it's the other way around - they already tried doing that, and what you're seeing are the adaptations they made after they already tried and failed to use ravens.
From the beggining I predicted you'ld win at 70%, and not before, but gosh, this is still insane!
Serral playing with his food lolol
30% handi and he still just walks on you. Dude is not human. Edit:30%?!?!?! Who tf is serral?!?!
A joke a few years ago was that Serral plays as if he has 2 heads and 4 arms. You can probably see why that joke landed because it's jaw-dropping just how fast and precise Serral's gameplay is.
@@joshuakim5240I wonder what a archon player against Cerrel would look like XD
@@The_Murder_Party He is training just like this.
I love how excited Uthermal gets about this game and the possible builds. It is really awesome 😎
I didn’t know I needed this video so much!! LOVED IT
This was a fun challenge concept! :)
I consider myself honored and lucky watching such a super grandmaster. What a time to be alive. Thank you, uThermal for the fun and games.
26:58 - My man, you may not be the "best Terran" in the world. But you are humble. You are still considered top 50 in the whole world. That's considerably impressive in it's own right.
wow , thats a very nice format, pretty cool you got the GOAT on ur channel , impressive and a honor , my YT Goat thermy vs da best SC player ever - shout out to serral for be a part ❤ , damn good idea , i love your always find new ways and challenges =) - i follow you for years now n you re a sc2 creativiy genius =) , happy you still with sc2 so active and i love the variety of ur content 😊 grateful greetings
GG Bro, thanks for the game liquidThermie
Hey Marc :D I have a question regarding coaching. I havent played SC2 normal for almost a decade (except Co-op) and thinking about trying to get into the game. I think I can climb atleast to Plat pretty fast since I have ALOT of RTS experience over the years. I was thinking about you coaching me multiple times (from start to finish maybe?) which may well exceed the 3 or 4 coaching sessions, depending on how high I want or have to climb on the ladder. Is there any way to realize that? Obviously for money of course (Yes, I have seen the prices on your metafy and expect it to be higher in my case, probably).
Like regularly coaching sessions and me climbing in between as high as I can. I can also write you an email if thats better in regard to that topic.
Also if you can get anything out of it like for youtube, I wouldnt mind aswell since I couldnt care less about that.
Best Greetings
A Uthermal Content Lover xD