Wait until you realize most techtubers don’t have the best of the best stuff for their personal use/at their homes. Marques even said his personal laptop is still an M1 MacBook Pro as there’s no point to upgrade yet. Y’all just falling for the consumerism pushed online. Nobody needs all this top of the line tech.
Here’s the real problem: Sony is STILL supporting the PS4. How can they be asking us to buy a new console when they’ve barely justified the OG PS5 to begin with.
Thats the scary part they might not be the pros... but they are being clear when they say we dont see a difference. I agree it doesnt tells me i should spend 700 on a nicer version with a controller that needs work.
+ He is a tech reviewer TH-camr, Sony will send him a PS5Pro for free to review, and even if he buys it, he can put it as a business expense and deduct it from his taxes, so basically free.
That’s not how that works. I’m sure they all get paid handsomely and MKBHD more than anybody but it’s about the business now, now his W2 personal checking account, he’s 1. Probably great for money & 2. Gets free things more than not, so no he wouldn’t really be paying for some $700 product anyways… the company would most likely just want him to have to on the off chance he talks good about it.
@@ngohoangart Is the 40-60 hours of entertainment in the room with us? Oh you mean overly bloated open world games stuffed with mindless filler content.
@@dislexicpotatoI mean then just don’t buy games that ur not gonna play. I got 40 hours on hogwarts legacy during my first play through of the story. I have 1000 hours on bo3 zombies, games like the finals and warzone are free. Mix that in with subscription games from PlayStations version of game pass is enough. Clearly most open world games aren’t for you and they aren’t for me either so I don’t go spend 70 bucks on horizon if I’m not gonna play it .the problem is absolutely the price of the console 😭
@@nandoloriann The point I’m making though is not only is the console overpriced, but the majority of PlayStation exclusives aren’t worth the $70 price tag. It was nice being able to buy a game day one and sell it or lend it to a friend, now you have to wait for the price to go down on the PS store until its worth it.
They should’ve made a PS5 Pro with and without a disc drive, and priced them $100 more than their standard counterparts. PS5 with disc drive: $499 PS5 Pro with disc drive: $599 PS5 without disc drive: $399 PS5 Pro without disc drive: $499
@@DubsBrown DualSense is included in both PS5 and Pro. But only Pro will also have "Edge". "PlayStation 5 Pro Console - 30th Anniversary Limited Edition BundIe Includes the limited edition PS5 Pro console with 2TB SSD, Wi-Fi 7 in territories supporting this standard, and matching limited edition accessories - DualSense wireless controller, DualSense Edge wireless controller, DualSense Charging Station, and a Console Cover for a Disc Drive (Disc Drive sold separately). It also includes a Vertical Stand and special collector’s Items" So the vertical stand is also included. I dont know the exact prices but let's guesstimate! PS5 Pro Digital 700 Vertical Stand 30 = 730 DualSense Edge 70 = 800 Charging Station 50 = 850 Collector's items 50 (?) = 900 It's guesstimate. The normal "boring" PS5 Pro includes one DualSense? So at least 900 dollar for PS5 Pro 30 PS5 Digital 30? (No Edge controller!!) Console 450 dollar Collector's items 50 (?) = 500 Vertical stand 30 = 530 (?) We have to round up so maybe 600 dollar for PS5 30 and 1000 dollar for PS5 Pro 30? With these prices, come on, add that disc drive! Now it's a "party" for the scalpers that gonna buy all disc drives because of Sony's actions. It's so sad. If anyone can do a better guesstimate with a list of all prices then please show that :)
the ablity to remove the disc drive is actually a good thing in my eyes , the thing that breaks the most is normally the disc drive , to swap it out for another one or have sent a replacement is much easier then buying a new console or sending it in to get fixed.
All of my PS5 games are digital so obviously I won’t miss the disc drive anyway, and I think 2TB of SSD is way better than 1 TB storage + optical drive. Of course the price of $700 is a bit steep for some people but then again makes the PS5 slim, which by no means a crappy console, absolutely a better buy. I don’t mind having to play at lower resolution to achieve 60 fps, and statistics show that roughly 75% of PS5 owners are leaning towards higher frame rates anyway. Sony is just giving to those who want the best of both worlds, high frame rate at 4K. Like Marques said, it’s cool that you don’t need to compromise of anything given you are willing to pay for that luxury of not compromising. The standard PS5 will continue to outperform the market like it always does and that’s the point of having the PS5 Pro at that high price tag. Good luck buying a brand new $700 gaming PC just for the sake of playing video games at the no-compromise-performance of the PS5 Pro.
$700 for 4 year old hardware and a slight GPU bump, Sony has been smoking some series stuff to think this is a good idea. This should be priced at $499 and the PS5 slim should be marked down to $299.
marking down the ps5 slim 200 is crazy but I agree. maybe more like 550 for the pro and 350-400 for the slim. I think no disc drive is also an issue. No matter what the pricing is it doesn’t make sense for a console that doesn’t have a disc drive to be $200 more than a console that does
The funny thing is rockstar games are very CPU reliant per digital foundry so this prob won’t have a big impact to GTA 6 which would be like the one game to get people to buy this😂
@@Chatosss honestly, no - i really like the games that came out on it so far! it’s so much faster and smoother than the ps4 - looking at the hundreds hours ive played on it, i feel like ive definitely got my moneys worth and then some
My thoughts exactly 🤦🏾 we’re gonna be outta around 900 after tax on the console and disc drive. I dnt think it’s worth it but if it’s only around 13k produced I’m try and pre order asap at worst I can resell nd get standard ps5 pro when they release it
I just looked it up and saw that the original Xbox one launched for $499 USD. The One S launched for $399 and the One X for $499. Realistically, Sony should have launched the PS5 Pro at $499 (the original PS5 was $499) and they either should have launched something similar to that of a One S with a PS5 Slim, or they should have at least reduced the price by $100. This just aint it, chief.
I will say that the videos digital foundry have recently uploaded on ps5 pro versions of games against the original, does make the pro more tempting for me. I personally thought that final fantasy looked a good deal better, and that’s on a TH-cam video. I’m almost for sure not getting the pro, but who knows with the lineup coming in 2025. I’ll tell you right now I’ll have a hard time not getting it if there is a noticeable enough performance increase on gta 6. I’ve been waiting over a decade for that damn game.
I'm starting to see a trend here with Sony Console players where they were complaining and about to come with pitch-forks over the price of the PS5 PRO ... then sony brings out a limited edition, 30th anniversary color (which will cost more money and scalpers will definitely target) and now they are salivating to buy it. Y'all acting just like Iphone users to Apple; complain about the Iphone being the same and expensive, only to buy the latest model every year. Truly Hilarious ~
As a consumer (especially a surface level console gamer) a price tag of $700 would sound rediculous (it is rediculous) but considering the price to performance a PS5 Pro has compared to a PC, $700 is very reasonable tbh. How else is Sony suppose to mass produce such consoles with these very capable GPUs AND have a margin for profit.
@@geolykos The price have been ridiculous after the 1080 TI that launched at 699. Now there top of the line card is 1700 dollars. Even a mid level card cost 700 dollars.
Typically, a Red Mage can do both Black (dmg) and White(heal) spells. A Blue mage can learn new spells from monsters. A Red Heeler and a Blue Heeler are types of Dogs ;)
They're absolutely right - it is a bad idea for companies to announce products at the same time. Maybe there is going to be another economic recession.
It’s ppl out reselling day 1 edition ps5s for like 200-300. I still got my day 1 edition I paid 750 for🤦🏾pretty sure I’m pre ordering the pro the second it drops if anyone wants to buy my ps5 lmk I’ll sell it for low I have the box and all
I think you have to compare what a similar spec gaming PC would cost you to make or buy, then look at the life-time you would own the PS5 without having to upgrade it. No one is making you buy one, just like no one makes you upgrade a £1,000 phone where there is next to NO improvement to see. If you are a serious gamer and have the money to spend you make a choice. There are videos out there where they discuss if you could make something similar at the same price point and the answer is no. Having said that my son has an original PS5 which he loves and gets incredible value and enjoyment from and hasn't said he would update to the new version. If you haven't got a PS5 and have the money , now you have a choice even before you go to the second hand / reconditionedmarket. My one gripe with the PS5 is they should have used good hall effect sensors in the controllers. Next video MKBHD builds a PS5 for less money?
The ps5 pro will probably be scalped into oblivion. I understand that the iPhone is a hot tech product. But you do know a new one comes out every year? It's not that big of a deal. I think it's a red flag that no other company is allowed to announce something that week because the iPhone is so important to you. If the iPhone was so good why would you need to buy a new one every year.
The average American keeps their iPhone for 2.67 years, and that number is rising. And a significant number of these are people who bought 2nd/3rd hand. But yeh, you keep making s*** up please.
I think it speaks to the times and consequence of the iPhone fall off. I'm also convinced Sony has the data/reports that points toward the CD drive not being as desired as the public feedback 🤔
They did this because they know when Gta6 drops, they will have certain things locked on the pro edition, and they know people will pay whatever to play it
It's for nerds like me who need to have everything in the best version, even if they need occasionally at best. The price looks less bad when you compare it to inflation-adjusted prices of past consoles but the fact is that if regular PS5 is still selling well enough to cost 500, they need to have this one at a higher price, that's just how pricing works. Also, you totally don't need all your digital games on your console at once so while no disc version is a bummer, I actually find the stand being a separate purchase much more insulting, lol
I feel like I am the only one but I did see the difference in graphics and frame rate like it wasn't like the character models themselves were better but it would be the leaves and the water and etc. Yes they definitely could've portrayed it way better and showed different games to prove that but I really don't believe people when they don't see the difference because it is pretty glaring to me.
I think people miss the point, you are paying +200 extra to have modern PS5 games with high fidelity at 60fps and to go ahead and get the SSD bump up without installing it yourself. No disk drive at that price? because Sony doesn't expect people to pay $700 to play PS4 games. It did not help that people paid scalpers $700-1200 for a PS5. If this gets scalped, I won't get it. If it doesn't, I might consider it.
Don’t take the bait Nintendo, Sony priced the PS5 Pro that high to make it seem ok that Nintendo should also price the Switch 2 (tentative) when it arrives, in a similar fashion. Sony is not used to being in second place with the console wars.
The h8 train is real. Keep hoping on it. 4k at 60fps better than 30fps on graphic mode is insanse. Ppl gonna h8 no matter what. But, willing to pay $700+ on just a grahic card and, upgrade as soon as something slightly better comes along. Although 700 is a lot for a console but, no pc in this range comes close.
With that price and hardly any improvement, gaming is now like cell phones: I used to get every new one, but now I don't. I'm good with my cell phone and I'm good with my PS5 disc version with stand.
Apple events just aren’t what they used to be. They are boring and rarely does Apple announce something anymore that isn’t just a minor spec bump. That’s why companies don’t mind announcing things close to Apple events now.
Everyone is bashing the Xbox, but what exclusive ps5 games are out there that would make me wanna buy a ps5 or ps5 pro? Demon's Souls remake, Astro Bot and Rise of the Ronin? Everything else you can also get on ps4 or PC. Where are the announcements about upcoming exclusives?
And I believe u get the dual sense edge controller with the carrier pouch with the pro I just hate having to pay extra for the disc drive I have games like horizon forbidden west and spider man 2 on disc it’s no way I’d not want to play them on the pro but to have to pay an extra 80 to play games I only have on disc bc they were on super sale is ridiculous not to mention tax it’ll be closer to 100 than 80🤦🏾
Graphics snob here. I can see the difference in the graphics comparison. The problem is... the general public cannot. I can immediately tell graphical quality loss between native graphics and dlss performance to quality settings. Again... the general public cannot. That's the major problem. Nobody can justify this amount of money for a gaming console that they cannot easily see a difference. I, someone who has the money to easily buy this thing, will not. That's another problem. If I cannot justify the cost, I know damn well someone saving up for this is out of that conversation. They probably already have a PS5 and that's more than enough for most folks.
Funny that Sony is doing the same thing as apple by shipping a new brand product that's basically the same as the previous version but people will still buy the iphone right?
Space Marine II and Dragons Dogma 2 can't get to 60fps no matter the mode you're in, forget about trying to run away from performance mode on this generation, that's fantasy for the next one.
I feel like people are confusing the fidelity mode with the performance mode for the ps5 normal. It is sounding way worse because of that…..not denying that it is bad🌝😂
Well if asking 700$ for a console that will run games identically to a pc worth 2000$ is a problem, then what the hell is apple doing releasing that iPhone 16 with that price or is it only US based products are allowed to overcharge their costumers for minimum upgrades?! and why would Sony avoid showing their product at same period with apple ! the targeted audience is totally different.
Ps5 is for those that just don't want to choose. If that's not you don't buy it. If that's you buy it. It's the same as a PC you have to choose unless you get the best. It's simple.
If Sony cared they would do it properly, so we shouldnt care and not buy the product, too pricey, no disc, theyre gonna bundle sales with the 30th anniversary editions to inflate numbers. Please i beg you, make this roll out a flop. We are gamers not consumerists
Don't have be a gamer not like hard core gamer. But play it sometimes when have nothing important to do. Yeah i would play it all day if i had the time.
It’s 2024 most things stopped using physical discs. Not saying Sonys move was right or wrong but I haven’t bought a disc based game in years and I’m also primarily pc minus exclusives. I was fortunate and got my ps5 for 499 on launch because I couldn’t get the disc less version for 399 at the time. My trade in of my ps5 is 400 so a hundred dollar loss over time. This cost of the ps5 pro is nothing compared to a similar performing pc. At least they offer the disc drive for the few that still buy everything physically. I think if Sony did a move like Blu-ray Discs where when you buy the physical you get a digital download code that would be clutch but unless there was a way to prevent the user from giving the code away for free or tieing to your account then good luck. But I do think the price should be 599. I mean I remember when phones gave us everything we needed in the box but not now (thanks apple). But it seems to be the way of the future in this fast evolving tech industry.
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If Marques aint got an 8K TV Noone should.
Suppose you get an 8k TV what will you watch in there ?...There is nothing to watch...Thays the point..only 1 or people shoot in 8k
@@VARUNRV007 Which is why he doesn't have one and noone else should either.
Wait until you realize most techtubers don’t have the best of the best stuff for their personal use/at their homes. Marques even said his personal laptop is still an M1 MacBook Pro as there’s no point to upgrade yet. Y’all just falling for the consumerism pushed online. Nobody needs all this top of the line tech.
@@Deadlines-X PS6 8K upscaled PS5 games lol
Here’s the real problem: Sony is STILL supporting the PS4. How can they be asking us to buy a new console when they’ve barely justified the OG PS5 to begin with.
I think they are supporting the PS4 because scalpers ruined the PS5 availability
@@EragonfrostThe first 1 or 2 years, it’s been 4 years…every store has a PS5 available
Extreme hubris and greed
The real problem is that there’s no exclusives.
@@Eragonfrost people are always going to scalp the biggest issue is people were stupid and over paid them for a ps5 , just for the sake of having one.
MKBHD: " I don't own an 8k T.V."
Next video So, I had this 8k T.V. for about two weeks now.
Cringe
@@a.3160 Yeah. That was corny. I'll try again next time.
Not cringe
I love people that talk about tech and video games, who know nothing about tech in video games.
Thats the scary part they might not be the pros... but they are being clear when they say we dont see a difference. I agree it doesnt tells me i should spend 700 on a nicer version with a controller that needs work.
So true
Marques isn’t fazed by $700 bec he’s loaded
"I don't have an 8k tv"
@@NewkFritz😂
+ He is a tech reviewer TH-camr, Sony will send him a PS5Pro for free to review, and even if he buys it, he can put it as a business expense and deduct it from his taxes, so basically free.
Spoken like someone who has NO IDEA how deductions work. @@andyw8558
That’s not how that works. I’m sure they all get paid handsomely and MKBHD more than anybody but it’s about the business now, now his W2 personal checking account, he’s 1. Probably great for money & 2. Gets free things more than not, so no he wouldn’t really be paying for some $700 product anyways… the company would most likely just want him to have to on the off chance he talks good about it.
It's not even the price of the console that's the issue, it's the fact they expect us to pay £70 each for digital games.
70$ for 40-60 hours of entertainment? I think it is quite cheap compared to cinema or hanging out outside drinking tbh lol
@@ngohoangart Is the 40-60 hours of entertainment in the room with us? Oh you mean overly bloated open world games stuffed with mindless filler content.
@@dislexicpotatoI mean then just don’t buy games that ur not gonna play. I got 40 hours on hogwarts legacy during my first play through of the story. I have 1000 hours on bo3 zombies, games like the finals and warzone are free. Mix that in with subscription games from PlayStations version of game pass is enough. Clearly most open world games aren’t for you and they aren’t for me either so I don’t go spend 70 bucks on horizon if I’m not gonna play it .the problem is absolutely the price of the console 😭
@@dislexicpotato dont buy them...
@@nandoloriann The point I’m making though is not only is the console overpriced, but the majority of PlayStation exclusives aren’t worth the $70 price tag. It was nice being able to buy a game day one and sell it or lend it to a friend, now you have to wait for the price to go down on the PS store until its worth it.
Not only will it sell out, but half of the people b*tchin about the price will be paying double to scalpers.
PS5 Slim 1TB is 499$ the Base PS5 is 825GB for 499$……..
Yeah wth lol there’s gonna be 12 versions of ps5 before ps6
They should’ve made a PS5 Pro with and without a disc drive, and priced them $100 more than their standard counterparts.
PS5 with disc drive: $499
PS5 Pro with disc drive: $599
PS5 without disc drive: $399
PS5 Pro without disc drive: $499
Sssh, common sense is not allowed at Sony.
NO
Or just go the way of the PS4 and launch the PS5 Pro at the price-at-launch of the OG PS5 and drop the OG PS5 price by $100
The difference i spec are not 100$ worth its a lot more, just the size of the drive space going from 825/1tb to 2tb is for Xbox worth 100$ alone
Pin this comment. They will change it too this. They changed the base PS5 price twice.
The 30th anniversary products look so good 🤦🏽♂️
But no bluray reader?
@@cjeeldeU have to buy disc separately
The DualSense and DualSense Edge is included in the bundle… meaning it will be minimum $1k
@@DubsBrown DualSense is included in both PS5 and Pro. But only Pro will also have "Edge".
"PlayStation 5 Pro Console - 30th Anniversary Limited Edition BundIe
Includes the limited edition PS5 Pro console with 2TB SSD, Wi-Fi 7 in territories supporting this standard, and matching limited edition accessories - DualSense wireless controller, DualSense Edge wireless controller, DualSense Charging Station, and a Console Cover for a Disc Drive (Disc Drive sold separately).
It also includes a Vertical Stand and special collector’s Items"
So the vertical stand is also included.
I dont know the exact prices but let's guesstimate!
PS5 Pro Digital 700
Vertical Stand 30 = 730
DualSense Edge 70 = 800
Charging Station 50 = 850
Collector's items 50 (?) = 900
It's guesstimate. The normal "boring" PS5 Pro includes one DualSense?
So at least 900 dollar for PS5 Pro 30
PS5 Digital 30? (No Edge controller!!)
Console 450 dollar
Collector's items 50 (?) = 500
Vertical stand 30 = 530 (?)
We have to round up so maybe 600 dollar for PS5 30 and 1000 dollar for PS5 Pro 30?
With these prices, come on, add that disc drive! Now it's a "party" for the scalpers that gonna buy all disc drives because of Sony's actions. It's so sad.
If anyone can do a better guesstimate with a list of all prices then please show that :)
@@DubsBrown honestly I’ll get a dual sense or dual sense edge and call it a day lol I’m not going any further than that
the ablity to remove the disc drive is actually a good thing in my eyes , the thing that breaks the most is normally the disc drive , to swap it out for another one or have sent a replacement is much easier then buying a new console or sending it in to get fixed.
Yup and if you don’t want the drive to.
all that means is that sony designed it to fail , like A LOT
@@YoungBlaze silly comment, they designed the slim ps5 with a removable disk drive so they’d only have to manufacture one model vs 2
@@YoungBlaze consoles xbox or PlayStation always had disc drive issues
Hahaha what an Sony defender 😂
The panel’s subscription cost how much?
All of my PS5 games are digital so obviously I won’t miss the disc drive anyway, and I think 2TB of SSD is way better than 1 TB storage + optical drive.
Of course the price of $700 is a bit steep for some people but then again makes the PS5 slim, which by no means a crappy console, absolutely a better buy. I don’t mind having to play at lower resolution to achieve 60 fps, and statistics show that roughly 75% of PS5 owners are leaning towards higher frame rates anyway. Sony is just giving to those who want the best of both worlds, high frame rate at 4K. Like Marques said, it’s cool that you don’t need to compromise of anything given you are willing to pay for that luxury of not compromising.
The standard PS5 will continue to outperform the market like it always does and that’s the point of having the PS5 Pro at that high price tag. Good luck buying a brand new $700 gaming PC just for the sake of playing video games at the no-compromise-performance of the PS5 Pro.
Announcement being close to iphone was good because iphone being expensive makes ps5 pro not seem crazy
$700 for 4 year old hardware and a slight GPU bump, Sony has been smoking some series stuff to think this is a good idea. This should be priced at $499 and the PS5 slim should be marked down to $299.
marking down the ps5 slim 200 is crazy but I agree. maybe more like 550 for the pro and 350-400 for the slim. I think no disc drive is also an issue. No matter what the pricing is it doesn’t make sense for a console that doesn’t have a disc drive to be $200 more than a console that does
If you’re broke just say it
@@iiwearLingeriePS5 has 15 exclusives so PS6 gonna have like 6 exclusives
Funny how so many in the comments don’t even know basic economics 😂
@natedog4872 exactly these haters are just broke! 😂
The funny thing is rockstar games are very CPU reliant per digital foundry so this prob won’t have a big impact to GTA 6 which would be like the one game to get people to buy this😂
i know im crazy for saying this, but $699 isnt a bad price, im just upset i gotta pay extra for the disc drive
i should disclose that i am a silly dumb dumb that paid over $900 for a PS5 during that scalper era.
@@shaboiisaiahdo you regret buying it at that time?
@@Chatosss honestly, no - i really like the games that came out on it so far! it’s so much faster and smoother than the ps4 - looking at the hundreds hours ive played on it, i feel like ive definitely got my moneys worth and then some
My thoughts exactly 🤦🏾 we’re gonna be outta around 900 after tax on the console and disc drive. I dnt think it’s worth it but if it’s only around 13k produced I’m try and pre order asap at worst I can resell nd get standard ps5 pro when they release it
Facts 💯
I just looked it up and saw that the original Xbox one launched for $499 USD. The One S launched for $399 and the One X for $499. Realistically, Sony should have launched the PS5 Pro at $499 (the original PS5 was $499) and they either should have launched something similar to that of a One S with a PS5 Slim, or they should have at least reduced the price by $100.
This just aint it, chief.
Different times now. Prices are not dropping and as with any upgrade it’ll cost more
You forget about inflation and you’re not getting as much cost savings from die size reductions anymore.
So, just ignoring inflation? Or do you think Sony should accept a loss in the three digits?
I will say that the videos digital foundry have recently uploaded on ps5 pro versions of games against the original, does make the pro more tempting for me. I personally thought that final fantasy looked a good deal better, and that’s on a TH-cam video. I’m almost for sure not getting the pro, but who knows with the lineup coming in 2025. I’ll tell you right now I’ll have a hard time not getting it if there is a noticeable enough performance increase on gta 6. I’ve been waiting over a decade for that damn game.
Sony behaving like APPLE !
I'm starting to see a trend here with Sony Console players where they were complaining and about to come with pitch-forks over the price of the PS5 PRO ... then sony brings out a limited edition, 30th anniversary color (which will cost more money and scalpers will definitely target) and now they are salivating to buy it. Y'all acting just like Iphone users to Apple; complain about the Iphone being the same and expensive, only to buy the latest model every year. Truly Hilarious ~
Been waiting for this PS5 epidose
wallpapers in HD cost how much??
You can definetly see the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps in PS5 Pro
it's not the fps they are discussing but the picture quality between performance and fidelity...
If you buy the disc, you still have to download the game lol
Yes true. But that will be one-third the size compared to the digital game.
Every single one of these dudes will buy it. Im gonna enjoy it. I want the best. Keep complaining
700 is crazy the PS5 was 500 plus memory add on another 500.
2:42 This is why Sony messed up with their presentation. This guy says it looks the same, while ignoring that one is double the frame rate.
This is what high end GPU's cost now. Get mad at Nvidia honestly
As a consumer (especially a surface level console gamer) a price tag of $700 would sound rediculous (it is rediculous) but considering the price to performance a PS5 Pro has compared to a PC, $700 is very reasonable tbh. How else is Sony suppose to mass produce such consoles with these very capable GPUs AND have a margin for profit.
GPU prices haven’t changed the past few years. Check the price history for the top Nvidia cards.
@@geolykos The price have been ridiculous after the 1080 TI that launched at 699. Now there top of the line card is 1700 dollars. Even a mid level card cost 700 dollars.
Marques actually being mature about the discussion compared to these other cringe TH-camrs.
Because $700 isn't that much money
And I think he's more of a casual player.
@Delanchet Sony Simp 🐑
Typically, a Red Mage can do both Black (dmg) and White(heal) spells. A Blue mage can learn new spells from monsters. A Red Heeler and a Blue Heeler are types of Dogs ;)
I don’t care about the console price as much as the disc drive
when he said wow @4:16 lol idk why that was so funny for me
They're absolutely right - it is a bad idea for companies to announce products at the same time. Maybe there is going to be another economic recession.
Hopefully the regular PS5 will become slightly cheaper and I will finally have an excuse to buy it.
It’s only gone done slightly it’s now $450
It seems unlikely as Sony just raised the base PS5 price in Japan by 19% (announced in August, taking effect Sept. 2).
It’s ppl out reselling day 1 edition ps5s for like 200-300. I still got my day 1 edition I paid 750 for🤦🏾pretty sure I’m pre ordering the pro the second it drops if anyone wants to buy my ps5 lmk I’ll sell it for low I have the box and all
still less than annual subscription of your wallpapers app.
I think you have to compare what a similar spec gaming PC would cost you to make or buy, then look at the life-time you would own the PS5 without having to upgrade it. No one is making you buy one, just like no one makes you upgrade a £1,000 phone where there is next to NO improvement to see. If you are a serious gamer and have the money to spend you make a choice. There are videos out there where they discuss if you could make something similar at the same price point and the answer is no. Having said that my son has an original PS5 which he loves and gets incredible value and enjoyment from and hasn't said he would update to the new version. If you haven't got a PS5 and have the money , now you have a choice even before you go to the second hand / reconditionedmarket. My one gripe with the PS5 is they should have used good hall effect sensors in the controllers. Next video MKBHD builds a PS5 for less money?
4:07 wow not even Marques has an 8K TV!
I came here to say the same thing
Cassowary is Australia most dangerous and feared animal... no joke.
The ps5 pro will probably be scalped into oblivion.
I understand that the iPhone is a hot tech product. But you do know a new one comes out every year? It's not that big of a deal.
I think it's a red flag that no other company is allowed to announce something that week because the iPhone is so important to you.
If the iPhone was so good why would you need to buy a new one every year.
The average American keeps their iPhone for 2.67 years, and that number is rising.
And a significant number of these are people who bought 2nd/3rd hand.
But yeh, you keep making s*** up please.
I think it speaks to the times and consequence of the iPhone fall off. I'm also convinced Sony has the data/reports that points toward the CD drive not being as desired as the public feedback 🤔
Your wallpaper cost how much?
The boys talking about Bluey at the end is 👌🏻
I just need an XBOX ONE as I've always dreamt of having one. But Paying 700 dollars to name ps5 pro is out of the box😮
They did this because they know when Gta6 drops, they will have certain things locked on the pro edition, and they know people will pay whatever to play it
Theres still no Audio Optical port for 5.1 Channel headphones. Nooo thanks!
It's for nerds like me who need to have everything in the best version, even if they need occasionally at best. The price looks less bad when you compare it to inflation-adjusted prices of past consoles but the fact is that if regular PS5 is still selling well enough to cost 500, they need to have this one at a higher price, that's just how pricing works. Also, you totally don't need all your digital games on your console at once so while no disc version is a bummer, I actually find the stand being a separate purchase much more insulting, lol
I feel like I am the only one but I did see the difference in graphics and frame rate like it wasn't like the character models themselves were better but it would be the leaves and the water and etc. Yes they definitely could've portrayed it way better and showed different games to prove that but I really don't believe people when they don't see the difference because it is pretty glaring to me.
You have to remember TH-cam videos suck to see the real gameplay video I have to be in person and people was blown away in how the pro looks
If pre orders are September 26th then when will I get charge ? 6 days before November 7th ?
Most console users use a TV (65"+)........you do see the difference in graphics!
Using my ps4 slim 1080p on my 65in 4k tv for last 3 years
The arsenal jersey though 🔥
When the Waveform guys are more interested in debating which Australian bird is cooler/scarier looking you know the PS5 Pro is a dud.
They don't even review gaming products like that anyway. Even at the beginning when one said they're not a gamer, lol.
Eh, not really. Their discourse is irrelevant to a products' success. Also their conversations are typically boring and uninformed.
@@Slurpy2k8And yet ur wasting ur time watching the “boring and uniformed”
And yet I will still get a ps5 pro 😂
I think people miss the point, you are paying +200 extra to have modern PS5 games with high fidelity at 60fps and to go ahead and get the SSD bump up without installing it yourself. No disk drive at that price? because Sony doesn't expect people to pay $700 to play PS4 games. It did not help that people paid scalpers $700-1200 for a PS5. If this gets scalped, I won't get it. If it doesn't, I might consider it.
Don’t take the bait Nintendo, Sony priced the PS5 Pro that high to make it seem ok that Nintendo should also price the Switch 2 (tentative) when it arrives, in a similar fashion. Sony is not used to being in second place with the console wars.
The h8 train is real. Keep hoping on it. 4k at 60fps better than 30fps on graphic mode is insanse. Ppl gonna h8 no matter what. But, willing to pay $700+ on just a grahic card and, upgrade as soon as something slightly better comes along. Although 700 is a lot for a console but, no pc in this range comes close.
Developers are gunna have fun with the pro. Games are gunna get that much better.
With that price and hardly any improvement, gaming is now like cell phones: I used to get every new one, but now I don't. I'm good with my cell phone and I'm good with my PS5 disc version with stand.
They will have about 50+ games that will be updated for free to Pro by the time this console comes out from what I read
Apple events just aren’t what they used to be. They are boring and rarely does Apple announce something anymore that isn’t just a minor spec bump. That’s why companies don’t mind announcing things close to Apple events now.
Am 100% always on disc games, i don’t worry about store taking down games coz i literally own games, unlike digital
The Canon C80 is amazing.
Everyone is bashing the Xbox, but what exclusive ps5 games are out there that would make me wanna buy a ps5 or ps5 pro? Demon's Souls remake, Astro Bot and Rise of the Ronin? Everything else you can also get on ps4 or PC. Where are the announcements about upcoming exclusives?
$500 vs $810 for feature parody (ie disc and stand). Thats nearly 65% more expensive for a console with the same cpu and a slightly better gpu
An internal SSD upgrade alone is $150
And I believe u get the dual sense edge controller with the carrier pouch with the pro I just hate having to pay extra for the disc drive I have games like horizon forbidden west and spider man 2 on disc it’s no way I’d not want to play them on the pro but to have to pay an extra 80 to play games I only have on disc bc they were on super sale is ridiculous not to mention tax it’ll be closer to 100 than 80🤦🏾
Just saw the disc drive at a store here in Germany for 120 euros (134 USD). WTF!
It's, it's the way they upload it to TH-cam. That's why you can't tell the difference if you do it on a TV. At home, i'm sure you'll see a difference.
Yeah true
700?
Graphics snob here. I can see the difference in the graphics comparison. The problem is... the general public cannot. I can immediately tell graphical quality loss between native graphics and dlss performance to quality settings. Again... the general public cannot. That's the major problem. Nobody can justify this amount of money for a gaming console that they cannot easily see a difference. I, someone who has the money to easily buy this thing, will not. That's another problem. If I cannot justify the cost, I know damn well someone saving up for this is out of that conversation. They probably already have a PS5 and that's more than enough for most folks.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR NEW WALLPAPER APP? LMAO TALKIN BOUT PRICE
Funny that Sony is doing the same thing as apple by shipping a new brand product that's basically the same as the previous version but people will still buy the iphone right?
The PS5 pro 30 year special edition is pretty dope
People: 700 for a ps5 pro? NO WAY
Same people: 500 for a ps5 and for just 200 more I can also get a ps portal? TAKE MY MONEY
Listen if the ps5 pro would do 120fps it will make sense
It does lol so does the ps5. It’s about the game
I just bought an 8k 75" Samsung as a main monitor and I'm really thinking of buying the pro, since my kids has taken the ps5 as their own.
Can you see a difference from 4k?
@@christianrapper5 as I have it as a monitor just 40 cm from my eyes; Yes. At a few feets distance; no.
@@krissche1863 i will probably wait until they are as common as 4k then.
Space Marine II and Dragons Dogma 2 can't get to 60fps no matter the mode you're in, forget about trying to run away from performance mode on this generation, that's fantasy for the next one.
4:21 Yes!!! That's exactly my reaction after watching PS5 Pro launch event.
never thought I would have here an NHL a reference on the podcast
I feel like people are confusing the fidelity mode with the performance mode for the ps5 normal. It is sounding way worse because of that…..not denying that it is bad🌝😂
What time will preorders start for the Pro on playstation direct? Midnight?
......I guess the guys at Sony Marketing didn;t realize youtube compression is a thing....
The bird with the long beaks that eats trash, is an Ibis
Ps5 30th anniversary just announced! 🔥
We’re only buying the ps5 pro for gta6
Well if asking 700$ for a console that will run games identically to a pc worth 2000$ is a problem, then what the hell is apple doing releasing that iPhone 16 with that price or is it only US based products are allowed to overcharge their costumers for minimum upgrades?! and why would Sony avoid showing their product at same period with apple ! the targeted audience is totally different.
Same price as Apple Watch Ultra 2….therefore a bargain
That’s curse applies to UFC video game front cover
I would love to know what type of TV does Marques has
This is like the iPhone 15 vs iPhone 16 😂😂😂😂 now I get it why they released it on the same week.
Sony could have retained the disk drive stand to justify it a little bit but no
It’s a big deal because the ps6 will have to be more powerful than the pro and how are they going to justify making it cheaper ?
Ps5 is for those that just don't want to choose. If that's not you don't buy it. If that's you buy it. It's the same as a PC you have to choose unless you get the best. It's simple.
If Sony cared they would do it properly, so we shouldnt care and not buy the product, too pricey, no disc, theyre gonna bundle sales with the 30th anniversary editions to inflate numbers. Please i beg you, make this roll out a flop. We are gamers not consumerists
If MKHD has no 8K TV, then why do you think any other simple costumer will have it xD
The other panelists don’t seem very knowledgeable. They seem to be reading and making sly comments. Why are they on there with you? Marketing?
Don't have be a gamer not like hard core gamer. But play it sometimes when have nothing important to do. Yeah i would play it all day if i had the time.
If the phone you're using to complain on youtube costs more than the Pro...
I hope nobody buys it so I'm guaranteed one at launch.
I don’t own a PlayStation currently my last one was the old ps3, am looking forward to buying this ps5 pro am currently on Xbox .😊
Game sales are down for ps5 precipitously. That might change hopefully. But right now it's bad.
It’s 2024 most things stopped using physical discs. Not saying Sonys move was right or wrong but I haven’t bought a disc based game in years and I’m also primarily pc minus exclusives. I was fortunate and got my ps5 for 499 on launch because I couldn’t get the disc less version for 399 at the time. My trade in of my ps5 is 400 so a hundred dollar loss over time. This cost of the ps5 pro is nothing compared to a similar performing pc. At least they offer the disc drive for the few that still buy everything physically. I think if Sony did a move like Blu-ray Discs where when you buy the physical you get a digital download code that would be clutch but unless there was a way to prevent the user from giving the code away for free or tieing to your account then good luck. But I do think the price should be 599.
I mean I remember when phones gave us everything we needed in the box but not now (thanks apple). But it seems to be the way of the future in this fast evolving tech industry.
When MKBHd himself does not have an 8k TV, then for whom is this PS5 pro for?