For those wondering, you do not need to know anything about the fate universe before playing fate extra. It and its sequels kinda exist in its own universe where they has almost no connection with any other works in the franchise. Although there are characters and concepts that are introduced in other fate and/or type moon works. It explains everything you need to know about fairly well.
You don't need to know anything about fate extra in order to play the game but it would help you if you knew a little bit about the Multiverse first anyway I got Fate extra the umbral star
IMO I do recommend watching the main 3 routes in Fate/Stay Night (DEEN FSN, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feel) before playing Extra, specifically if you're choosing Archer as your Servant. Archer is the same one in F/SN and repeatedly references the original animes/visual novel, particularly in highlighting the differences in the characters. In addition, the player can appreciate the returning characters a lot more should they go through the original routes first.
One game that wasn’t mentioned but is literally just SMT/Persona gameplay wise is Digimon Cyber Sleuth. Would definitely recommend anyone who’s a fan of the SMT series and looking for a spin on it check them out.
If any of you are fans of SMT: Strange Journey, try giving Etrian Odyssey a shot. Also made by Atlus, and very challenging (3rd game is the most accessible one, so i'd recommend starting there.)
I second Etrian Odyssey. Though I feel as though 4 is more accessible, as 4's classes are VERY strong, scalpers exist, so good luck trying to get ahold of 3 at a reasonable price without emulation, and 3 has Narmer.
Absolutely, Etrian Odyssey! It's such a good series! I highly recommend the original DS versions of 1 and 2 to anyone who can get their hands on them, but the remakes will suffice and offer just as much fun. Having played all but 3, 5 stands at my current favorite, partially just because it's what got me into the series.
I have tried 2 of these type of games, Persona Q and EO Nexus, but I just cannot get myself to stick with them. Tried multiple times, but I always fall off at some point. Maybe the slow, methodical style just wears at my patience, idk. I want to like them, I just can't justify buying more games I know I probably won't finish.
I actually really enjoyed the combat in Fate/Extra. It helps reinforce how important it is to learn as much as you can about your opponent. If you follow the individual arc stories to completion, you get a heads-up about the opponent's moveset, and as such can plan your moves accordingly much easier. It's the difference between getting mercilessly bopped and effortlessly shredding, for the majority of foes. As a result, it puts a lot of emphasis on listening to the story and following it's beats, since sometimes you can completely miss arc progression if you aren't paying attention. It also reflects how, in the series lore, it's extremely important to know who the enemy Servant is, as that knowledge informs you of their capabilities. Fate/Extra Record will likely be more accessible, and hopefully will adapt that theme somehow, but for what it is I actually thought Fate/Extra's combat was really fun.
Eh I enjoyed it and hell, I am still waiting on the Fate/Extra CCC English patch, idk if it's still being worked on till this day but I'm planning on playing it one way or another
I reall hope the remake captures that experience of sleuthing out your enemy's identity and weaknesses. It almost delivered on that quirk of Stay Night's original premise as well as a 2000s RPG possibly could.
Nyarly: "As much as I hate to say it, this is probably the closest we'll ever get to a new Devil Summoner game..." Atlus: "Here's Soul Hackers 2 out of nowhere!" How? How do you keep willing these things into existence?
I'd describe Fate/Extra more like a visual novel with a turn based RPG side to it The combat is actually really fun if you pay attention to the patterns, especially for the bosses
@@wolfnagi10 P3P got the overworld exploration cut out due to hardware limitations with the PSP compared to the original and FES versions on PS2 Fate/EXTRA was natively designed on the PSP, so the rather small overworld exploration is present
(offtopic but) Congrats on reacing 100k mate!!!,While i never really got into fate extra/played it,it genuinely looks great and i gotta give it a try someday
Fate is long overdue for an amazing game. There’s so many servants to choose from, and if developers are worried about profit, there’s plenty of waifu bait to remedy that concern.
Extella and Link are both on the Switch. The narrative is kinda odd and Fate is really bad at teaching you what the in universe jargon means, but they're both serviceable 'turn your brain off and beat shit up' games. Because of the class system, I could see a Fate strategy game working out really well tbh. In fact, why haven't they done that yet?
I highly recommend Jeanne D'arc for the PSP. Its got a grid map, turn based gameplay, and a very good combat system. The story is good and a fantasy retelling of the tale of Joan of Arc as a JRPG with twists and changes that anyone can appreciate. Its kinda similar to Devil Survivor, tho I haven't played it.
Playing FGO without watching something of fate is like playing dragon ball XenoVerse without watching dragon ball, not bad but the whole idea is fan service with story plus getting scammed for the gacha
The Lost Child is 10 bucks on the eShop until the 10th, so I think I'll pick it up. I ended up dropping Soul Hackers (the loyalty system and the way the game handled demon negotiation weren't for me) but maybe I'll like this game more. Thanks for the recommendation.
@DB-Kaz ah ok gotcha. I'm sorry if I got confused with lost child since I'm in Mexico rn were I'm at an wifi is bad here, which didn't let me finish the video
@DB-Kaz it's actually a spiritual successor to El Shaddai, not a sequel while it may feature characters from the latter, the gameplay and tone is totally different from the former
The Cold Steel games do have some social sim elements, it is a bit light with more of a focus on the combat and story. One thing is it is part of a larger series, while you can play the game without playing the other games, you really get more out of the game playing them, since 3 take place before the events of Cold Steel, and 2 happen along side the events of Cold Steel I and II (those two games are also not out in the west yet)
I’ve went through the whole Trails series after starting with Cold Steel 1 in June and I 100% recommend. Every Persona fan should give it a try, I’m nearly done with Cold Steel 4 and I’m genuinely sad I’m almost done with it.
Ngl, Trail combat system is amazing but there are some stupid exploits because how broken some the mid game items was. The Minotaur Quartz alone break Cold Steel 2 combat wide open. In Cold Steel 3, Juna and Rean basically the 2 best characters due to Juna break power is second to none and Rean S-Craft after Spirits Unification is downright busted with ridiculously high damage and he can spam that this like no tomorrow, not to mention Rean and Altina’s Brace Orders, Divine Song and Ebon Crest make you invincible, thank god those was “nerf” in Cold Steel 4.
@@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd For sure, there’s plenty of ways to break it. Just off the top of my head Lloyd’s Burning Heart immediately gives him another turn unlike Juna, so if he has Craft Point regen he can literally spam that to get 7 Brave Points instantly lol. Came in pretty clutch for the final boss ngl
I'm so glad to see someone else bring up The Lost Child, it's a title I'm passionate about and had a lot of fun with, the unique mechanics it introduces makes the experience extremely worth it to experience, and I think the supporting cast for this title is one of the strongest I've seen in an RPG for a long time On the topic of the designs for the Astrals, I really liked how each alignment had an overarching design ethos, it really made the entire roster of monsters diverse and fun
Let's see...For Persona fans I'd say *Tokyo Xanadu EX+* on steam would be interesting. For SMT fans,there are some inspired games coming up this year. There is *Malice & Greed* in early access on Steam and *Eternal Exodus* got a demo out to play. I think I wanna try out The Lost Child
Hmm. Since quite a lot of people are looking to pick up The Lost Child, I'll just go ahead and copy and paste my comment from above in hopes it helps ''I posted in a comment just a moment ago, but if you do get the game, beware of a couple of game breaking bugs In combat your allies will randomly learn skills and activate them in place of what you told them to. If a demon learns a skill before the actual tutorial for learning skills, the main girl who cant be removed will never lear a skill for the rest of the game. Basically, make sure she is the first thing to learn a skill by reaching that tutorial. Otherwise, reload. And the other that I found is if you do the optional 100 floor dungeon. If you beat floor 80, do not exit the dungeon to go and save like I did. Instead, go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead. Leaving on floor 80 causes a bug that disables the stairs to floor 81, meaning you can never ever beat that dungeon. I lost a good 60 hours due to this and still havent gone back. Hope you enjoy the game despite this.''
I fully agree on Tokyo Xanadu eX+. The game runs very well on the PC, so it's a good port. Personally I have the GOG version, but I think the Steam version is almost the same. I had a blast with this game. It's maybe not for everybody (not everybody likes real time battle), but it's certainly worth to take a look. I am still hoping for a sequel, but I guess that will not be very soon.. If ever..
Man, I absolutely loved Fate/Extra! It was my first exposure to the Fate series and what got me into it and Type-Moon overall. The combat system, while I see is a big hit-or-miss for people, I personally didn't mind. It kind of emphasized the idea that knowledge is key in winning a battle. (My first playthrough I picked Caster AKA Hard Mode)
I was honestly expecting Caligula Effect to be on this list. Caligula 1 and it’s remake are flawed, but Caligula 2 is legitimately a great jrpg and one of my favorites from 2021
Hell yes! It makes me so happy that Caligula 2 improves on the original so much, since I loved the music and premise (and antagonists) of that game. Really need to play more Caligula 2.
Yeah I like Caligula as well despite its many flaws. The combat is too easily cheesed, the social quests are a logistical chore with little payout, and the graphics are questionable at best. But the story, characters, and themes of escapism and mental trauma are tackled with precision and heart (The game's creator was an actual psychologist!) And by far the best quality? The music. Each area had its own track tied to each boss that were not only certifiable bangers, but also served representations of each of their characters and their inner struggles. That kind of seamless integration is rare these days. The sequel is on my wishlist and my hopes are high.
@@kennethinker Yeah, the second game fills you in on the important bits early on. While you're at it, don't bother with the anime, either. Starts off promising, but it's really not worth it in the end.
Oooh, this is a really fun video topic! I actually have most of these in my backlog and am looking forward to them, but I apparently definitely need to pick up The Lost Child! As for other MegaTen-alikes, the Caligula Effect games are most definitely worth a look
Congratulations on hitting 100k Nyarly! Also, this video is exactly what I needed since I just finished Strange Journey and don't have anything else to play. So thanks!
Really glad Nyarly did. I didn't even know about the game but the art in the game looks so fucking cool. If I get time It's definitely on my "pick it up and try it" list now.
The trophies on PS Vita really show off the game and the mechanics. I'm not a big trophy hunter but I enjoyed earning the ones in Mind:Zero. The English voice acting is mostly trash though IMHO. The story/visual novel portions are very atmospheric. Been a while now since I last experienced it. Game is a slow burn though.
So thankfully you mentioned Fate as being similar to SMT. As one who loves both series a lot, especially because of how both approach mythology and historical characters in various ways, this was a really good video. Fate Extra Record is coming soon, and its ditching the rock-paper-scissor mechanic, and so far it looked way better. So yeah, its gonna be fun. I know Fate and SMT both are mythology based but they are too different. But! I think both SMT and Fate fans could have enjoyment in the other series. Maybe not totally, but both offer different things so while they have a similar theme, its still unique enough. So yeah, if you like SMT, you might like Fate. If you like Fate, you might like SMT! I certainly love both series!
As a Fate I'm surprise there was never a more pronounce Collab between the two to me SMT and Fate make more sense then even Dante although Nocturne began the featuring Dante from DMC series hahaha
@@tonyinfinite5174 Dante really only got the cameo because Kazuma Kaneko designed his DMC2 appearance. (Kaneko is the demon/character design for a lot of megaten).
@@RaspyCh wherever you want as long as it's not a direct sequel. I personally recommend Zero, prequel to Stay Night. Animated by Ufotable, wrote by Gen Urobochi and explaining pretty well most of rules.
I played the lost child a few years back and I remember liking it a lot, though I saw where it had some rough edges. I played it on normal difficulty, so take it with a grain of salt, but I thought the game was easy enough, Enoch just kind of blows everything out of the water once he gets some decent skills (watch out for that bug that will make Lua unable to learn skills ever if Enoch learns a skill before the skill tutorial.) I loved the occult theming throughout the game. Investigating paranormal stuff by talking to citizens and then going to the dungeon and fighting the demons responsible, It was just kinda my jam, you know? I agree with some astral designs being pretty lame, but they do get better as the game proceeds. Also, it takes a really, really long time for you to be able to remove an astral from your party, was it just me? That feature didn't seem to unlock until way late in the game. I was impressed that the creator of el shaddai ended up having to buy the rights to the game so that he could make the lost child. I guess he just loved the world that he created and wanted to expand it himself. I guess you could say he wanted to give it some TLC. LOL
I find it ironic that the best way to have fun with fate/extra's combat is to use caster to completely circumvent the RPS system and stunlock your opponent.
Monster Hunter: Stories (the pokemon-like version of the game) uses rock-paper-scissors weakness in it (in addition to elemental weaknesses). But it also has different moves that hit one character, multi, buffs, debuffs.
Shadow Hearts and it's sequel Covenant are also pretty great occultism-modern dark fantasy RPGs, also it has one of the best protagonists in video games I've seen.
Cool video! I had heard of these before but never quite tried to give them a chance, after seeing to video I will probably do soon! Also I really appreciate how you are fair with the games, point out the good and the bad without over hyping or trashing it.
I'm really not familiar with Fate as a whole, but I think I have an idea why the gameplay of Fate/Extra is made this way and it's to reinforce the idea that you need a very solid planning of your moves. You and your opponent are in a 1v1 duel and are sort of equal in strength, the one who can outmanouver and outsmart another wins, so they tried to emulate the mind games that come from trying to predict what your opponent will do and how you wanna condition them to respond but in a turn based system
I think you were right about who Fate/Extra would appeal to, as you described me perfectly. As a Fate fan who just was there to get the lore and start the series (since CCC, Extella, and Extella Link all follow from Extra), it was pretty fun and it kept me engaged at the very least. While I definitely don't disagree that the game's combat system is lacking, I think everything else was just too good for me to think of it negatively.
Favorite part is the Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth OST at the start, a man of culture I see. P.S. congrats on 100K subs btw just noticed you hit the milestone
Sorta similar, there is a game on the PS1 called Legend of Legaia. In it there are these monsters called seru who helped humanity, but we're driven mad by this strange mist that started appearing. The heroes equip themselves with a special ra-seru that attaches to their arm and allows them to absorb seru to summon as magic. The combat system is also very unique, requiring the player to make special moves out of different combinations of up down left right. Amazing game, 10/10
yeah but it was more like final fantasy game then SMT game, story was mostly around three characters with action combo combat style something in line of Xenogears or Legend of Lagoon, and you taking monsters in the "the mist" wasn't bad game, not really amazing either
Tbh I just came here because I saw Nero in the thumbnail and was curious as what Fate game was like Megami Tensei, and now you've convinced me to get the remake when it comes out! Thanks Nyarly
I hope I dont get in trouble for spamming, but i'm just giving some advice for people wanting to pick up The Lost Child: ''I posted in a comment just a moment ago, but if you do get the game, beware of a couple of game breaking bugs In combat your allies will randomly learn skills and activate them in place of what you told them to. If a demon learns a skill before the actual tutorial for learning skills, the main girl who cant be removed will never lear a skill for the rest of the game. Basically, make sure she is the first thing to learn a skill by reaching that tutorial. Otherwise, reload. And the other that I found is if you do the optional 100 floor dungeon. If you beat floor 80, do not exit the dungeon to go and save like I did. Instead, go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead. Leaving on floor 80 causes a bug that disables the stairs to floor 81, meaning you can never ever beat that dungeon. I lost a good 60 hours due to this and still havent gone back. Hope you enjoy the game despite this.''
the fact the spin-offs came out in the West say otherwise also, the anime adaptations of fate zéro and fate/stay night came to the West proves there's little to worry about future Type-Moon localisations
Whilr gameplay is quiet different, Ar Tonelico has a lot of similar social elements with the Persona games to the point its important since like Persona it actually helps you in combat sinxe its the only way to access stronger magic, in this case Song Magic. Hell the main social mechanic of the Ar Tonelico series, The Cosmosphere, is similar to Social Links since its all about getting to know and explore other characters although Ar Tonelico goes deeper in depth since you do it by traveling to worlds inside the persons mind sinilar to Palaces. I would recommend the 2nd if you want the best experience if you ever want to check them out.
The Mary Skelter games from Compile Heart are also pretty solid first person dungeon crawlers. Originally vita games, they're also on switch and PC now. Mary Skelter 2 also contains the first game if you buy it on switch/PC. The games take place inside a living tower, complete with meaty doors and walls with eyeballs. The characters are all from various fairy tales, like Rapunzel and Sleepying Beauty. It's standard turn based combat with each character getting a set of classes to choose from. The twist comes in the bloodstain mechanic. Hitting weak points or overkilling enemies stains team members with blood, which they can consume to enter a personal powered up state, or can lick off other team members to give the whole party an effect. Staining the dungeon itself with blood is permanent (it even persists if you leave the dungeon and come back) and affects things like light and encounter rate. There's quite a bit of content to be had: a few more mechanics I didn't mention (like invincible bosses that chase you through dungeons), a story that is pretty trope-heavy but has a few twists, both EN and JP voice acting is available, and several difficulty options. Overall, I had a good time with it.
@@denkerbosu3551 Yeah the third game (Finale) has some strange localization choices. I didn't notice many in the first two games though, and things like the purification mini game are still there. On switch at least. But I played with JP audio so I might have just missed it.
Touhou: ADiA, just Touhou: ADiA. This is fan game in Touhou world with classic MegaTen gameplay + some quality of life features and post game dungeon. I also recommend Etrian Odyssey.
I been meaning to try out Mind Zero for the very bizarre reason that one of the OST songs is called Kohntarkosz, the name of an album by the 70s french band Magma and I want to see if there is any more references to the group in the game. You don't end up naming something Kohntarkosz unless you really know Magma and zeuhl. If you have played the game and terms like Zeuhl Wortz, Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré, Nëbëhr Gudahtt, Mëkanïk Kömmandö, Kreühn Köhrmahn, etc have appear in the game, please let me know. Sorry for the bizarre request but I tried playing the PC port and it kept on crashing on me so haven't had a change to investigate it myself.
Damn you weren't kidding about about Mind Zero having a lot of Persona VAs. From behindthevoiceactors, I see Yusuke, Yosuke/Makoto Yuki/Ryoji, Chie/Wakaba, Aigis/Nanako, SIU Director/P5 Igor, Sojiro, Naoki from the P4 Anime, Sho, Maya from Innocent Sin, Ken/Labrys, Hifumi/Marie, Naoto, and human Morgana. Literally every actor listed was a Persona character at some point.
I hadn't heard that Fate: Extra is getting a remake. It's one of those games I was always really curious about, but didn't have a PSP so I never got it, and if the remake makes the combat more interesting than RPS, I'll get it for sure.
Have you ever done a video on the ps1 game Jade Cocoon? its a unique turn based jrpg that actually got me on the jrpg hype train. the "cocoon" system is very unique and fun and would love to hear your thoughts.
good thing nyarly didn’t talk about the japan-only follow-up game to Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC. it’s kind of like the Sakura route in Fate/Stay Night whilst Fate/Extra has the metaphorical Saber and Rin route. it’s the same game, but with a slightly different UI. it also has a fourth servant you can choose (but i ain’t telling who it is). my guess as to why it wasn’t localized was probably due to the SPICE (read: lewd scenes) it had. if you wanna tackle it yourself, then you have to put up with pure japanese text and pray to every god there’s a translated walkthrough of it. the translation of the game isn’t done yet (but it might be this year, who knows), and choices matter much more here than in the original. fun fact, kinoko nasu once allegedly stated that Extra CCC was going to be the last thing he was going to involve himself in with the Fate franchise. that was a fucking lie.
@@tweetugwe1270 Honestly I hope not. I love that fgo is amalgamation of different creative minds (Heck even Urobochi wrote a chapter)and I would like to see more writers be a part of it. Nasu really should do something outside the Nasuverse.
I've been meaning to get the HD remaster of SMT Nocturne but I want to wait until they fix the compression music. As someone who got into the series from Persona I really enjoy it.
I STRONGLY recommend Tokyo Xanadu. It's action RPG combat, but the characters and story go really in-depth in a fun episodic anime style structure. Its setting is also similar to Persona 5 despite releasing a few years before it. Particularly when one of the party members is basically male Futaba.
Tokyo Xanadu is Falcom through and through tho. It's a fun game, but it's clearly not based on the megaten formula. Instead it draws quite a bit from Ys and the Kiseki games.
Already completed it, it's a great underrated game. Love the action combat with teammate switching. You can say it combines Persona social bonding + Ys combat.
Another game exactly like SMT is Demon Gaze Extra. It is by the same developer who made The Lost Child, Kadokawa Games. There is an enhanced remaster for Switch that came out very recently. Demon Gaze Extra is a first person dungeon crawler that is extremely difficult even on normal. You catch demons using what's known as the demon gaze. The catch is the longer you have a demon out, the more demon resource they drain. If the resource hits 0 then the demon will go berserk and attack you. As the MC you can have up to 3 demons out at a time. Demon Gaze Extra has some nice mechanics. Though unlike The Lost Child or mainline SMT there is a small selection of obtainable demons that are captured via story missions.
A game I half though would be on this list was Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker. If you like the Dragon Quest monster designs and the idea of building a party out of them, then give this a look. From what I recall the monster fusion system is interesting because there are benefits to fusing monsters as soon as you can (when they reach level 10) since monsters get stronger with each iteration of fusion they go through, gaining a "+1" to their rank each time. However its also worth holding off since they pass on some of the skill points they have earned and can offer stronger versions of their skill sets if you have enough skill points invested into them. I might be misremembering some of that since I haven't played it in a while, but that's how I remember it.
GOOD CATCH! though i might hold off and buy is physically as im paranoid of games just vanishing these days (by these days i mean ever since the MVC Origins game got taken away and i will always regret not buying it haha)
Hi, guy who is only semi into Fate here, waiting to play the original VN to fully dive into it, Fate Extra is basically it's own thing, but at the same time, some of the characters and concepts from other Fate works are put into Fate Extra, and some of the Fate Extra characters are in games like the Musous, and Fate Grand Order.
Quick heads up for those who want to try Fate/Extra: play them on emulator and use save-states because, honestly, it's the best way to play it. I played the Caster route and it was kind of hard going through the game with no safe net... Also, there is not a Fate/Extra anime.
I started playing extra mainly because I'm waiting for the sequel's fan translation to be finished. Still haven't gotten my servant, probably picking archer, but I'm super excited to play CCC because some of my favorite characters like BB and Meltryllis are in the game, and it's a shame the game never got localized because it would be a hard M rating
Of these games, the one that interests me is The Lost Child. I hope we see more videos like this soon, because I'm always looking for more RPG's that take a page out of SMT's book. Megami Tensei games have been the golden standard for JRPG's, so I'm surprised more of them haven't caught up yet in terms of quality-of-life improvements. That being said, are there any JRPG's or indie RPG's with a similar style to older SMT games? I'm not talking monster-collection per-se, but a more grounded, dark or mature setting? Or anything that's got that dark, violent OVA charm to it? Maybe with a similar urban or 90's cyberpunk setting? I'd love to know it more inspired games exist out there. Even Japanese/indie games from other genres that have a similar style.
I saw a couple of comments talking about it, but I'm surprised he didn't mention Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth duology as well. I mean, the DigiLab in these games is pretty much a Velvet Room clone, both in gameplay and story. I'd be curious to see Nyarly's opinions on these games if he ever checks them out.
I didn't see the "Name your child" prompt at first and I was like "who is this gunslinger that shares my name and should I get this game just to get her"
I think some might like Fire Emblem 3 Houses. You choose how to spend your limited time each month either battling or building relationships with students. You can recruit new party members, and you even fight demonic beasts
Or just Fire Emblem overall I downloaded Path of Radiance this summer, but haven't touched it since because Dolphin kept saying "Now game will likely crash or hang, enjoy"
Posting this BEFORE watching the video, but to anyone wanting to pick up The Lost Child, DO be aware that it does have some game breaking bugs that still havent been patched. Ones that I discovered I will write as follows. Its a good game...I think? Just...beware: In this game your demons learn skills semi-randomly during battle. IF a demon happens learns a skill before the tutorial TELLS you how learning skills work, your main ally (Basically Nemissa from Soul Hackers who can never be removed) will never ever learn a skill. So reload and try to reach the skill learning tutorial without your demons learning anything. Next. The optional 100 floor dungeon. Should you choose to tackle this, once you beat floor 80, DO NOT LEAVE, like I did. Its a tough floor so youll naturally want to exit and save, but dont. Leaving on floor 80 locks you out of the rest of that dungeon, meaning you can never beat the postgame. I lost maybe 60 hours of dungeon crawling to this and still havent gone back to redo it all. Go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead. I havent played in a long time, but if I remember any other bugs, I will edit them into this comment. I do not want people going through what I did.
I've wanted a Furi or No More Heroes boss rush game for fats for so long. Honestly, with the current way of cramming 100 servants in each game, I'd want one with just 7 and maybe some secret ones.
I found Lost Child here and long by now since completed the main story and slowly working through the bonus dungeon. It's a solid first person dungeon crawler actually though I bought it on a deep sale (10 bucks or so). I would recommend anyone else interested to do the same as ehhh it doesn't really feel like a 50 dollar game, but it's certainly worth a look on sale. The characters are interesting and there are many cool designs for encounter/allies! Happy I got it. Dungeons aren't amazing, but I do think all generally serve their purpose and are good enough with some cool puzzles and gimmicks.
So the dude from Conception just has children with every girl he knows and then uses them in battle against monsters? Dang and I thought Yu was a chad
Both Conception games had that going too. XD
For those wondering, you do not need to know anything about the fate universe before playing fate extra. It and its sequels kinda exist in its own universe where they has almost no connection with any other works in the franchise. Although there are characters and concepts that are introduced in other fate and/or type moon works. It explains everything you need to know about fairly well.
You don't need to know anything about fate extra in order to play the game but it would help you if you knew a little bit about the Multiverse first anyway I got Fate extra the umbral star
IMO I do recommend watching the main 3 routes in Fate/Stay Night (DEEN FSN, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feel) before playing Extra, specifically if you're choosing Archer as your Servant. Archer is the same one in F/SN and repeatedly references the original animes/visual novel, particularly in highlighting the differences in the characters. In addition, the player can appreciate the returning characters a lot more should they go through the original routes first.
@@nosaizen1023 Why would you ever subject yourself to DEEN Fate
Thats the funny thing any fate game is always connected to everything else
I would recommend reading the visual novel before
One game that wasn’t mentioned but is literally just SMT/Persona gameplay wise is Digimon Cyber Sleuth. Would definitely recommend anyone who’s a fan of the SMT series and looking for a spin on it check them out.
YES hard agree, picked it up on sale and had a blast
Definitely a fun time.
Even though it's totally unrelated, sometimes I like to call this game devil survivor 3 because of the character designs
@@quizlaire totally see where you are coming from. Arata and the devil survivor 2 protag look identical
Agree, really good game one the Best Digimon game out there imo
"This is probably the closest we'll ever get to a new devil summoner game"
Thank record scratch he was mistaken....
1:45 Conception 2
8:25 Mind Approximately
12:55 Fate/Extra
19:09 The Lost Child
If any of you are fans of SMT: Strange Journey, try giving Etrian Odyssey a shot. Also made by Atlus, and very challenging (3rd game is the most accessible one, so i'd recommend starting there.)
I second Etrian Odyssey. Though I feel as though 4 is more accessible, as 4's classes are VERY strong, scalpers exist, so good luck trying to get ahold of 3 at a reasonable price without emulation, and 3 has Narmer.
SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT!!
also, 4 is better. 3 is fucking difficult. or pick Nexus if you want more and have a 3ds.
Absolutely, Etrian Odyssey! It's such a good series! I highly recommend the original DS versions of 1 and 2 to anyone who can get their hands on them, but the remakes will suffice and offer just as much fun. Having played all but 3, 5 stands at my current favorite, partially just because it's what got me into the series.
Chances are if you know smt you would know eot too.
I have tried 2 of these type of games, Persona Q and EO Nexus, but I just cannot get myself to stick with them. Tried multiple times, but I always fall off at some point. Maybe the slow, methodical style just wears at my patience, idk. I want to like them, I just can't justify buying more games I know I probably won't finish.
I actually really enjoyed the combat in Fate/Extra. It helps reinforce how important it is to learn as much as you can about your opponent. If you follow the individual arc stories to completion, you get a heads-up about the opponent's moveset, and as such can plan your moves accordingly much easier. It's the difference between getting mercilessly bopped and effortlessly shredding, for the majority of foes. As a result, it puts a lot of emphasis on listening to the story and following it's beats, since sometimes you can completely miss arc progression if you aren't paying attention. It also reflects how, in the series lore, it's extremely important to know who the enemy Servant is, as that knowledge informs you of their capabilities. Fate/Extra Record will likely be more accessible, and hopefully will adapt that theme somehow, but for what it is I actually thought Fate/Extra's combat was really fun.
Huh, I didn't know anyone liked the combat. I really thought people were just hanging in to see the story.
Eh I enjoyed it and hell, I am still waiting on the Fate/Extra CCC English patch, idk if it's still being worked on till this day but I'm planning on playing it one way or another
I reall hope the remake captures that experience of sleuthing out your enemy's identity and weaknesses. It almost delivered on that quirk of Stay Night's original premise as well as a 2000s RPG possibly could.
Man idk I remember dropping the game years ago because the rock paper scissors fighting was annoying for me
Yeah, I can't say that the combat in Extra is objectively good, but I personally had a really fun time with it too.
Nyarly: "As much as I hate to say it, this is probably the closest we'll ever get to a new Devil Summoner game..."
Atlus: "Here's Soul Hackers 2 out of nowhere!"
How? How do you keep willing these things into existence?
Demon negotiation?
i mean soul hackers 2 is a mistake
I'd describe Fate/Extra more like a visual novel with a turn based RPG side to it
The combat is actually really fun if you pay attention to the patterns, especially for the bosses
So, P3P?
@@denkerbosu3551 P3P but the overworld is fully explorable instead of cursor-based movement
@@wolfnagi10 P3P got the overworld exploration cut out due to hardware limitations with the PSP compared to the original and FES versions on PS2
Fate/EXTRA was natively designed on the PSP, so the rather small overworld exploration is present
(offtopic but) Congrats on reacing 100k mate!!!,While i never really got into fate extra/played it,it genuinely looks great and i gotta give it a try someday
You should it is such a great game
There is remake of Fate extra in the makings, maybe that might interest you.
Sorry if that has been said in the video already!
It’s getting a remake soon so watch out for that if you don’t feel like using an emulator.
It's alright I already played the original anyway
@@blademaster7989 Oh sorry, I was talking to Defective Stupei.
23:56 A month later Atlus announces a Soul Hackers sequel LMAO
Fate is long overdue for an amazing game. There’s so many servants to choose from, and if developers are worried about profit, there’s plenty of waifu bait to remedy that concern.
If you like warriors style games i think extella is pretty good. There is also a neat fighting game and fate extra.
Still no news about Extra Record....
Extella and Link are both on the Switch. The narrative is kinda odd and Fate is really bad at teaching you what the in universe jargon means, but they're both serviceable 'turn your brain off and beat shit up' games.
Because of the class system, I could see a Fate strategy game working out really well tbh. In fact, why haven't they done that yet?
fgo is still making stupid money tho so they don’t really have to
@@brotbrotsen1100 I've heard it ruins Nero's character more than zero ruins artoria
I highly recommend Jeanne D'arc for the PSP. Its got a grid map, turn based gameplay, and a very good combat system. The story is good and a fantasy retelling of the tale of Joan of Arc as a JRPG with twists and changes that anyone can appreciate. Its kinda similar to Devil Survivor, tho I haven't played it.
I’ve always had this game downloaded on my emulator and psp for a long time I just haven’t started. Now I’ve seen someone mention it I might start it
@@RaspyCh Please do.
It was one of my favorite PSP game and I played it a few time growing up. I really second this recommendation.
@@Diego_237 it’s been on my ps vita on adrenaline for a year lol
My tips on fgo: Never try to understand what fate actually is.
Playing FGO without watching something of fate is like playing dragon ball XenoVerse without watching dragon ball, not bad but the whole idea is fan service with story plus getting scammed for the gacha
read f/sn
Also just don't play it and avoid a gambling addiction
Is just like gravity
@@TheKewlPerson ye, play melty blood instead!
The Lost Child is 10 bucks on the eShop until the 10th, so I think I'll pick it up. I ended up dropping Soul Hackers (the loyalty system and the way the game handled demon negotiation weren't for me) but maybe I'll like this game more. Thanks for the recommendation.
Lost child?
@DB-Kaz ah ok gotcha. I'm sorry if I got confused with lost child since I'm in Mexico rn were I'm at an wifi is bad here, which didn't let me finish the video
Thanks, might snag it
My problem with the game is that the first full dungeon after the tutorial dungeon is LONG and you run out of new demons pretty quickly. I got bored.
@DB-Kaz it's actually a spiritual successor to El Shaddai, not a sequel
while it may feature characters from the latter, the gameplay and tone is totally different from the former
The Cold Steel games do have some social sim elements, it is a bit light with more of a focus on the combat and story. One thing is it is part of a larger series, while you can play the game without playing the other games, you really get more out of the game playing them, since 3 take place before the events of Cold Steel, and 2 happen along side the events of Cold Steel I and II (those two games are also not out in the west yet)
Trails is awesome
@@junnochang6372 it is
I’ve went through the whole Trails series after starting with Cold Steel 1 in June and I 100% recommend. Every Persona fan should give it a try, I’m nearly done with Cold Steel 4 and I’m genuinely sad I’m almost done with it.
Ngl, Trail combat system is amazing but there are some stupid exploits because how broken some the mid game items was. The Minotaur Quartz alone break Cold Steel 2 combat wide open. In Cold Steel 3, Juna and Rean basically the 2 best characters due to Juna break power is second to none and Rean S-Craft after Spirits Unification is downright busted with ridiculously high damage and he can spam that this like no tomorrow, not to mention Rean and Altina’s Brace Orders, Divine Song and Ebon Crest make you invincible, thank god those was “nerf” in Cold Steel 4.
@@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd For sure, there’s plenty of ways to break it. Just off the top of my head Lloyd’s Burning Heart immediately gives him another turn unlike Juna, so if he has Craft Point regen he can literally spam that to get 7 Brave Points instantly lol. Came in pretty clutch for the final boss ngl
I'm so glad to see someone else bring up The Lost Child, it's a title I'm passionate about and had a lot of fun with, the unique mechanics it introduces makes the experience extremely worth it to experience, and I think the supporting cast for this title is one of the strongest I've seen in an RPG for a long time
On the topic of the designs for the Astrals, I really liked how each alignment had an overarching design ethos, it really made the entire roster of monsters diverse and fun
I've got it the switch port but never got down to actually playing it. Grateful for your passionate comment. Will try to find time to enjoy it!
0:07 the background music is, Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, The Cyber Sleuth if anyone was wondering.
Let's see...For Persona fans I'd say *Tokyo Xanadu EX+* on steam would be interesting. For SMT fans,there are some inspired games coming up this year. There is *Malice & Greed* in early access on Steam and *Eternal Exodus* got a demo out to play.
I think I wanna try out The Lost Child
Hmm. Since quite a lot of people are looking to pick up The Lost Child, I'll just go ahead and copy and paste my comment from above in hopes it helps
''I posted in a comment just a moment ago, but if you do get the game, beware of a couple of game breaking bugs
In combat your allies will randomly learn skills and activate them in place of what you told them to. If a demon learns a skill before the actual tutorial for learning skills, the main girl who cant be removed will never lear a skill for the rest of the game.
Basically, make sure she is the first thing to learn a skill by reaching that tutorial. Otherwise, reload.
And the other that I found is if you do the optional 100 floor dungeon.
If you beat floor 80, do not exit the dungeon to go and save like I did. Instead, go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead. Leaving on floor 80 causes a bug that disables the stairs to floor 81, meaning you can never ever beat that dungeon. I lost a good 60 hours due to this and still havent gone back.
Hope you enjoy the game despite this.''
I seem to remember that someone on r/Megaten was the one who made Malice and Greed. I'll definitely have to give that one a look
I fully agree on Tokyo Xanadu eX+. The game runs very well on the PC, so it's a good port. Personally I have the GOG version, but I think the Steam version is almost the same. I had a blast with this game. It's maybe not for everybody (not everybody likes real time battle), but it's certainly worth to take a look. I am still hoping for a sequel, but I guess that will not be very soon.. If ever..
Man, I absolutely loved Fate/Extra! It was my first exposure to the Fate series and what got me into it and Type-Moon overall. The combat system, while I see is a big hit-or-miss for people, I personally didn't mind. It kind of emphasized the idea that knowledge is key in winning a battle. (My first playthrough I picked Caster AKA Hard Mode)
Caster was always my favorite pick lol she's so damn funny
@@27Bayleefs Ikr, Tamamo my beloved!
Archer was my first solely for Bone of My Sword memes, I am doing a ng+ run with caster
@@Herrscher-4 Stay Night Archer is so baddass xd
I was honestly expecting Caligula Effect to be on this list. Caligula 1 and it’s remake are flawed, but Caligula 2 is legitimately a great jrpg and one of my favorites from 2021
I ALMOST bought it before SMT5 came out. It's still on my list of things to buy
Hell yes! It makes me so happy that Caligula 2 improves on the original so much, since I loved the music and premise (and antagonists) of that game. Really need to play more Caligula 2.
Yeah I like Caligula as well despite its many flaws. The combat is too easily cheesed, the social quests are a logistical chore with little payout, and the graphics are questionable at best. But the story, characters, and themes of escapism and mental trauma are tackled with precision and heart (The game's creator was an actual psychologist!) And by far the best quality? The music. Each area had its own track tied to each boss that were not only certifiable bangers, but also served representations of each of their characters and their inner struggles. That kind of seamless integration is rare these days. The sequel is on my wishlist and my hopes are high.
hi! i just finished persona q (for the 3ds), so i'm looking for another jrpg to play. should i skip caligula 1 and go straight for 2? :D
@@kennethinker Yeah, the second game fills you in on the important bits early on. While you're at it, don't bother with the anime, either. Starts off promising, but it's really not worth it in the end.
Oooh, this is a really fun video topic! I actually have most of these in my backlog and am looking forward to them, but I apparently definitely need to pick up The Lost Child!
As for other MegaTen-alikes, the Caligula Effect games are most definitely worth a look
Congratulations on hitting 100k Nyarly!
Also, this video is exactly what I needed since I just finished Strange Journey and don't have anything else to play. So thanks!
“BABE! NEW NYARLY VID JUST DROPPED”
LETS GO NEW NYARLY VIDEO!!!
I think I've used most of my luck of this year for new Nyarly video
I was hoping somebody would eventually talk about Mind Zero.
I though I imagined it but this video made my go find my copy.
Really glad Nyarly did. I didn't even know about the game but the art in the game looks so fucking cool. If I get time It's definitely on my "pick it up and try it" list now.
Mind Zero kinda reminds me about Digital Devil Saga, which is pretty cool. Kinda interested.
The trophies on PS Vita really show off the game and the mechanics. I'm not a big trophy hunter but I enjoyed earning the ones in Mind:Zero. The English voice acting is mostly trash though IMHO. The story/visual novel portions are very atmospheric. Been a while now since I last experienced it. Game is a slow burn though.
I remember playing this and eventually dropping it. Oddly enough, I still want to see a sequel.
So thankfully you mentioned Fate as being similar to SMT. As one who loves both series a lot, especially because of how both approach mythology and historical characters in various ways, this was a really good video.
Fate Extra Record is coming soon, and its ditching the rock-paper-scissor mechanic, and so far it looked way better. So yeah, its gonna be fun. I know Fate and SMT both are mythology based but they are too different. But! I think both SMT and Fate fans could have enjoyment in the other series. Maybe not totally, but both offer different things so while they have a similar theme, its still unique enough.
So yeah, if you like SMT, you might like Fate. If you like Fate, you might like SMT! I certainly love both series!
As a Fate I'm surprise there was never a more pronounce Collab between the two to me SMT and Fate make more sense then even Dante although Nocturne began the featuring Dante from DMC series hahaha
@@tonyinfinite5174 Dante really only got the cameo because Kazuma Kaneko designed his DMC2 appearance. (Kaneko is the demon/character design for a lot of megaten).
Ok but where do I start fate?
@@RaspyCh wherever you want as long as it's not a direct sequel.
I personally recommend Zero, prequel to Stay Night. Animated by Ufotable, wrote by Gen Urobochi and explaining pretty well most of rules.
@ Same Zero great you'll have a blast
I played the lost child a few years back and I remember liking it a lot, though I saw where it had some rough edges. I played it on normal difficulty, so take it with a grain of salt, but I thought the game was easy enough, Enoch just kind of blows everything out of the water once he gets some decent skills (watch out for that bug that will make Lua unable to learn skills ever if Enoch learns a skill before the skill tutorial.)
I loved the occult theming throughout the game. Investigating paranormal stuff by talking to citizens and then going to the dungeon and fighting the demons responsible, It was just kinda my jam, you know? I agree with some astral designs being pretty lame, but they do get better as the game proceeds. Also, it takes a really, really long time for you to be able to remove an astral from your party, was it just me? That feature didn't seem to unlock until way late in the game.
I was impressed that the creator of el shaddai ended up having to buy the rights to the game so that he could make the lost child. I guess he just loved the world that he created and wanted to expand it himself. I guess you could say he wanted to give it some TLC. LOL
I find it ironic that the best way to have fun with fate/extra's combat is to use caster to completely circumvent the RPS system and stunlock your opponent.
I think a rock-paper-scissors combat can be good if done right. It gives a sense of strategy and memorization, which I can get behind.
Monster Hunter: Stories (the pokemon-like version of the game) uses rock-paper-scissors weakness in it (in addition to elemental weaknesses). But it also has different moves that hit one character, multi, buffs, debuffs.
Shadow Hearts and it's sequel Covenant are also pretty great occultism-modern dark fantasy RPGs, also it has one of the best protagonists in video games I've seen.
Was really surprised you didn't know about: Tokyo Xanadu eX+ tbh expected it to be early on in the video lol but great video otherwise, as usual!
welcome back nyarly! your solo vids are my fav!
Cool video! I had heard of these before but never quite tried to give them a chance, after seeing to video I will probably do soon! Also I really appreciate how you are fair with the games, point out the good and the bad without over hyping or trashing it.
10:54 featuring Dante from Devil May Cry
I'm really not familiar with Fate as a whole, but I think I have an idea why the gameplay of Fate/Extra is made this way and it's to reinforce the idea that you need a very solid planning of your moves. You and your opponent are in a 1v1 duel and are sort of equal in strength, the one who can outmanouver and outsmart another wins, so they tried to emulate the mind games that come from trying to predict what your opponent will do and how you wanna condition them to respond but in a turn based system
Congratulations on reaching 100k subs my dude 🎉
Very nice video! Thank you for taking the time to make it.
Aww, you didn't mention my favorite game similar to Persona/SMT: Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE.
I think you were right about who Fate/Extra would appeal to, as you described me perfectly. As a Fate fan who just was there to get the lore and start the series (since CCC, Extella, and Extella Link all follow from Extra), it was pretty fun and it kept me engaged at the very least. While I definitely don't disagree that the game's combat system is lacking, I think everything else was just too good for me to think of it negatively.
When I woke up today, I wasn't expecting Nyarly to talk about Fate. But I'm glad he did.
Man, so sad that this is the first time I’ve heard about The Lost Child, only to go look it up and find out it got delisted last year.
Good to see a fresh video!
Congrats on the 100k subs Nyarly!
Favorite part is the Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth OST at the start, a man of culture I see.
P.S. congrats on 100K subs btw just noticed you hit the milestone
Good job on 100k
Sorta similar, there is a game on the PS1 called Legend of Legaia. In it there are these monsters called seru who helped humanity, but we're driven mad by this strange mist that started appearing. The heroes equip themselves with a special ra-seru that attaches to their arm and allows them to absorb seru to summon as magic. The combat system is also very unique, requiring the player to make special moves out of different combinations of up down left right. Amazing game, 10/10
yeah but it was more like final fantasy game then SMT game, story was mostly around three characters with action combo combat style something in line of Xenogears or Legend of Lagoon, and you taking monsters in the "the mist" wasn't bad game, not really amazing either
Congrats on the 100k!
Babe wake up, new Nyarly upload
Tbh I just came here because I saw Nero in the thumbnail and was curious as what Fate game was like Megami Tensei, and now you've convinced me to get the remake when it comes out! Thanks Nyarly
The devs could make SMT-like game with Fate if they wanted to, just create a ton of Servants and you have it
~ 10:00 The minotaur made of stone in Mind Zero is called "Rock Angus" lmao
Rock A(mo)ngus
You missed Caligula for "persona-likes", it even had some of the original persona staff working on it like Satomi Tadashi
Nice video, im always after some underappreciated JRPGs and now i've got Zero Mind and The Lost Child on my to buy list THANKS ALOT NYARLY GAAAAWD ;D
I hope I dont get in trouble for spamming, but i'm just giving some advice for people wanting to pick up The Lost Child:
''I posted in a comment just a moment ago, but if you do get the game, beware of a couple of game breaking bugs
In combat your allies will randomly learn skills and activate them in place of what you told them to. If a demon learns a skill before the actual tutorial for learning skills, the main girl who cant be removed will never lear a skill for the rest of the game.
Basically, make sure she is the first thing to learn a skill by reaching that tutorial. Otherwise, reload.
And the other that I found is if you do the optional 100 floor dungeon.
If you beat floor 80, do not exit the dungeon to go and save like I did. Instead, go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead. Leaving on floor 80 causes a bug that disables the stairs to floor 81, meaning you can never ever beat that dungeon. I lost a good 60 hours due to this and still havent gone back.
Hope you enjoy the game despite this.''
@@koheikyouji PSAs are always worth the mention :)
Zanki Zero: Last Beginning needs more love if you like your dungeon crawlers with some dark overtones and a mysterious story check it out
Did Nyarly just coined the term MegamiLike?
Fate extra was good imo but i like it despite it's issues. And best to import the remake as type Moon doesn't localize some of there titles
the fact the spin-offs came out in the West say otherwise
also, the anime adaptations of fate zéro and fate/stay night came to the West proves there's little to worry about future Type-Moon localisations
@@martinde-serres8724 Yeah, but hey never localized Fate/Extra CCC or their visual novels.
@@martinde-serres8724 Good luck convincing Tsukihime fans of that.
@@martinde-serres8724 but those were developed by marvelous and xseed tbh and type moon has yet to localize fate stay night VN or fate hollow ataraxia
@@martinde-serres8724 and not to mention Tsukihime remake is still Japan exclusive
I still listen to Fate Extra music to this day. It's music can be described as cyber jazz. Awesome.
Whilr gameplay is quiet different, Ar Tonelico has a lot of similar social elements with the Persona games to the point its important since like Persona it actually helps you in combat sinxe its the only way to access stronger magic, in this case Song Magic. Hell the main social mechanic of the Ar Tonelico series, The Cosmosphere, is similar to Social Links since its all about getting to know and explore other characters although Ar Tonelico goes deeper in depth since you do it by traveling to worlds inside the persons mind sinilar to Palaces. I would recommend the 2nd if you want the best experience if you ever want to check them out.
The Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth duology is basically SMTmon
The Mary Skelter games from Compile Heart are also pretty solid first person dungeon crawlers. Originally vita games, they're also on switch and PC now. Mary Skelter 2 also contains the first game if you buy it on switch/PC.
The games take place inside a living tower, complete with meaty doors and walls with eyeballs. The characters are all from various fairy tales, like Rapunzel and Sleepying Beauty.
It's standard turn based combat with each character getting a set of classes to choose from. The twist comes in the bloodstain mechanic. Hitting weak points or overkilling enemies stains team members with blood, which they can consume to enter a personal powered up state, or can lick off other team members to give the whole party an effect. Staining the dungeon itself with blood is permanent (it even persists if you leave the dungeon and come back) and affects things like light and encounter rate.
There's quite a bit of content to be had: a few more mechanics I didn't mention (like invincible bosses that chase you through dungeons), a story that is pretty trope-heavy but has a few twists, both EN and JP voice acting is available, and several difficulty options. Overall, I had a good time with it.
I had to pass from that one due to the localization. Not a fan of that, even though the franchise interests me.
@@denkerbosu3551 Yeah the third game (Finale) has some strange localization choices. I didn't notice many in the first two games though, and things like the purification mini game are still there. On switch at least. But I played with JP audio so I might have just missed it.
Touhou: ADiA, just Touhou: ADiA. This is fan game in Touhou world with classic MegaTen gameplay + some quality of life features and post game dungeon. I also recommend Etrian Odyssey.
I been meaning to try out Mind Zero for the very bizarre reason that one of the OST songs is called Kohntarkosz, the name of an album by the 70s french band Magma and I want to see if there is any more references to the group in the game. You don't end up naming something Kohntarkosz unless you really know Magma and zeuhl.
If you have played the game and terms like Zeuhl Wortz, Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré, Nëbëhr Gudahtt, Mëkanïk Kömmandö, Kreühn Köhrmahn, etc have appear in the game, please let me know. Sorry for the bizarre request but I tried playing the PC port and it kept on crashing on me so haven't had a change to investigate it myself.
Thanks for this. Was looking for this topic on TH-cam and most results were the "persona fans be like".
Persona fans when
“You’ll go into mind break”
You’ll go into fucking what now?
Damn you weren't kidding about about Mind Zero having a lot of Persona VAs. From behindthevoiceactors, I see Yusuke, Yosuke/Makoto Yuki/Ryoji, Chie/Wakaba, Aigis/Nanako, SIU Director/P5 Igor, Sojiro, Naoki from the P4 Anime, Sho, Maya from Innocent Sin, Ken/Labrys, Hifumi/Marie, Naoto, and human Morgana. Literally every actor listed was a Persona character at some point.
Did you know if Hifumi's VA did Isabeau in SMTIV, I think I heard that but I'm not sure
That recolored Saber with Nero colors on the thumbnail is fucking with me
Fate invent nfs before it even exists
I hadn't heard that Fate: Extra is getting a remake. It's one of those games I was always really curious about, but didn't have a PSP so I never got it, and if the remake makes the combat more interesting than RPS, I'll get it for sure.
Have you ever done a video on the ps1 game Jade Cocoon? its a unique turn based jrpg that actually got me on the jrpg hype train. the "cocoon" system is very unique and fun and would love to hear your thoughts.
good thing nyarly didn’t talk about the japan-only follow-up game to Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC. it’s kind of like the Sakura route in Fate/Stay Night whilst Fate/Extra has the metaphorical Saber and Rin route. it’s the same game, but with a slightly different UI. it also has a fourth servant you can choose (but i ain’t telling who it is).
my guess as to why it wasn’t localized was probably due to the SPICE (read: lewd scenes) it had.
if you wanna tackle it yourself, then you have to put up with pure japanese text and pray to every god there’s a translated walkthrough of it. the translation of the game isn’t done yet (but it might be this year, who knows), and choices matter much more here than in the original.
fun fact, kinoko nasu once allegedly stated that Extra CCC was going to be the last thing he was going to involve himself in with the Fate franchise. that was a fucking lie.
Im not surprise if he still keep working on a Fate project even after saying he's going to be done with it after the Lostbelts.
@@tweetugwe1270 Honestly I hope not. I love that fgo is amalgamation of different creative minds (Heck even Urobochi wrote a chapter)and I would like to see more writers be a part of it.
Nasu really should do something outside the Nasuverse.
For those interested The Lost Child Happens to be on sale for the next 16 hours on the Switch
I been Waiting For This
I'm glad to see another person also prioritize gameplay rather than story in jrpg
I've been meaning to get the HD remaster of SMT Nocturne but I want to wait until they fix the compression music. As someone who got into the series from Persona I really enjoy it.
Bad news your not getting that fixed Atlus never fixes their games
You’re best case scenario is buying it on pc and modding the music
Nah for that customer service just emulate it, don't pay 60€ for...better graphics? You might crave skill selection, but well
I STRONGLY recommend Tokyo Xanadu. It's action RPG combat, but the characters and story go really in-depth in a fun episodic anime style structure. Its setting is also similar to Persona 5 despite releasing a few years before it. Particularly when one of the party members is basically male Futaba.
Added to the list! thanks friend :)
Tokyo Xanadu is Falcom through and through tho. It's a fun game, but it's clearly not based on the megaten formula. Instead it draws quite a bit from Ys and the Kiseki games.
@@KyussTheWalkingWorm absolutely agree. I personally wasn’t a fan of Xandu though tbh
Already completed it, it's a great underrated game. Love the action combat with teammate switching. You can say it combines Persona social bonding + Ys combat.
That battle theme in Conception II had me laughing, its so WTF
This was an interested video and it was alot worth it
Another game exactly like SMT is Demon Gaze Extra. It is by the same developer who made The Lost Child, Kadokawa Games. There is an enhanced remaster for Switch that came out very recently.
Demon Gaze Extra is a first person dungeon crawler that is extremely difficult even on normal. You catch demons using what's known as the demon gaze. The catch is the longer you have a demon out, the more demon resource they drain. If the resource hits 0 then the demon will go berserk and attack you. As the MC you can have up to 3 demons out at a time. Demon Gaze Extra has some nice mechanics. Though unlike The Lost Child or mainline SMT there is a small selection of obtainable demons that are captured via story missions.
Outside Fate that I already own, all of these picks have been games on my radar for a long time, so I do look forward to giving these all a try
I'm honestly really looking forward to the remake of Fate Extra
A game I half though would be on this list was Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker. If you like the Dragon Quest monster designs and the idea of building a party out of them, then give this a look.
From what I recall the monster fusion system is interesting because there are benefits to fusing monsters as soon as you can (when they reach level 10) since monsters get stronger with each iteration of fusion they go through, gaining a "+1" to their rank each time. However its also worth holding off since they pass on some of the skill points they have earned and can offer stronger versions of their skill sets if you have enough skill points invested into them.
I might be misremembering some of that since I haven't played it in a while, but that's how I remember it.
The Lost Child is currently on a very deep sale on the Nintendo Switch.
GOOD CATCH! though i might hold off and buy is physically as im paranoid of games just vanishing these days (by these days i mean ever since the MVC Origins game got taken away and i will always regret not buying it haha)
congrats on 100k nyarly
I want to know more about the pre-SMT monster collecting games :O
New nyarly vid fuck yeah
Hi, guy who is only semi into Fate here, waiting to play the original VN to fully dive into it, Fate Extra is basically it's own thing, but at the same time, some of the characters and concepts from other Fate works are put into Fate Extra, and some of the Fate Extra characters are in games like the Musous, and Fate Grand Order.
Quick heads up for those who want to try Fate/Extra: play them on emulator and use save-states because, honestly, it's the best way to play it. I played the Caster route and it was kind of hard going through the game with no safe net...
Also, there is not a Fate/Extra anime.
We don't talk about Last Encore
I started playing extra mainly because I'm waiting for the sequel's fan translation to be finished. Still haven't gotten my servant, probably picking archer, but I'm super excited to play CCC because some of my favorite characters like BB and Meltryllis are in the game, and it's a shame the game never got localized because it would be a hard M rating
Try playing Caster first. It was a fantastic challenge. She's basically hard mode.
@@hirobhya I know she's hard mode, but I like Emiya, he's cool
@@ttarzzxz3711 he is indeed, cool. My fave male servant ever.
Of these games, the one that interests me is The Lost Child. I hope we see more videos like this soon, because I'm always looking for more RPG's that take a page out of SMT's book. Megami Tensei games have been the golden standard for JRPG's, so I'm surprised more of them haven't caught up yet in terms of quality-of-life improvements.
That being said, are there any JRPG's or indie RPG's with a similar style to older SMT games? I'm not talking monster-collection per-se, but a more grounded, dark or mature setting? Or anything that's got that dark, violent OVA charm to it? Maybe with a similar urban or 90's cyberpunk setting? I'd love to know it more inspired games exist out there. Even Japanese/indie games from other genres that have a similar style.
I'm surprised you didn't cover Tokyo Xanadu. The combat's more on the action RPG side but everything else seems pretty SMT-y.
I saw a couple of comments talking about it, but I'm surprised he didn't mention Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth duology as well.
I mean, the DigiLab in these games is pretty much a Velvet Room clone, both in gameplay and story.
I'd be curious to see Nyarly's opinions on these games if he ever checks them out.
"You play as Chad thunder-" I'm shocked you almost made that legendary joke from gmanlives heh
2 years later and I'm still waiting for word on Fate/Extra Record
I didn't see the "Name your child" prompt at first and I was like "who is this gunslinger that shares my name and should I get this game just to get her"
I think some might like Fire Emblem 3 Houses. You choose how to spend your limited time each month either battling or building relationships with students. You can recruit new party members, and you even fight demonic beasts
Or just Fire Emblem overall
I downloaded Path of Radiance this summer, but haven't touched it since because Dolphin kept saying "Now game will likely crash or hang, enjoy"
Congrats on 100k btw
Posting this BEFORE watching the video, but to anyone wanting to pick up The Lost Child, DO be aware that it does have some game breaking bugs that still havent been patched. Ones that I discovered I will write as follows. Its a good game...I think? Just...beware:
In this game your demons learn skills semi-randomly during battle. IF a demon happens learns a skill before the tutorial TELLS you how learning skills work, your main ally (Basically Nemissa from Soul Hackers who can never be removed) will never ever learn a skill. So reload and try to reach the skill learning tutorial without your demons learning anything.
Next. The optional 100 floor dungeon. Should you choose to tackle this, once you beat floor 80, DO NOT LEAVE, like I did. Its a tough floor so youll naturally want to exit and save, but dont. Leaving on floor 80 locks you out of the rest of that dungeon, meaning you can never beat the postgame. I lost maybe 60 hours of dungeon crawling to this and still havent gone back to redo it all. Go up to floor 81, and use the exit on that floor instead.
I havent played in a long time, but if I remember any other bugs, I will edit them into this comment.
I do not want people going through what I did.
I haven't thought about Conception 2 in so long
I've wanted a Furi or No More Heroes boss rush game for fats for so long. Honestly, with the current way of cramming 100 servants in each game, I'd want one with just 7 and maybe some secret ones.
I found Lost Child here and long by now since completed the main story and slowly working through the bonus dungeon. It's a solid first person dungeon crawler actually though I bought it on a deep sale (10 bucks or so). I would recommend anyone else interested to do the same as ehhh it doesn't really feel like a 50 dollar game, but it's certainly worth a look on sale. The characters are interesting and there are many cool designs for encounter/allies! Happy I got it. Dungeons aren't amazing, but I do think all generally serve their purpose and are good enough with some cool puzzles and gimmicks.