Saturn ordering every marine off the island except for him and Kizaru seem like famous last words. The name of the chapter is “The Apex of Stupidity,” and it is clear Saturn has never lost trust in Kizaru despite us fans knowing he is conflicted and is not going all out. No witnesses so it is the perfect opportunity to flip and attack Saturn. Maybe he did not want to attack Saturn when there was 9 vice admirals who may wish to Saturns aide.
At first i thought that kizaru would join the straw hats but now im stuck between that and maybe he will join the revolutionary army with the rest of the team from egghead (bonny, Kuma, vegapunk and sentumaro)
I think Kizaru will join but only to act as Bonney’s preceptor and eventually become her adoptive father. He does not really have a dream himself, but his dream could be to ensure Bonney gets to live her dream the she and Kuma had.
I don't think he will join the strawhats he will join dragon with bonnie . An sentameru is alive but he got off the island by the marines he may or may not be taken as a prisoner cuz he isn't the only one that can control the pacifists all he got to say was Shaka did it and they would say ok so his not in the best condition but he did leave egghead alive saved bonnie from that gaint fall she took .
Been rewatching from Gecko Moria arc and just recently finished Dressrosa and in his military office he has a large sign above his desk having said “Unclear Justice” giving you a look into his ideals into his justice vs. Fleet Admiral Sakazuki.
Hey mate i wanna ask about Caribou whereabouts, because there is high chance the one who gave Luffy food is Caribou and Borsalino saw it but let him did that, and he is like wildcard in this game, like Wano arc before. And OOT, i really love this channel because i can learn English listening here, i didnt need subtitle becaue u speak and speed really easy to hear, thanks for that.
He's in a lot more control than he lets on. I bet he's been up to all kinds of things since people can't see/track his movement. Also, after first learning about Future Vision and then thinking of Kizaru, I began wondering what a light-speed version of the technique would be like...
The first thing i thought abt after learning about future sight and thinking off kizaru was simply how it would work if somebody with future sight fought him, but couldnt keep up with the speed. Imagine briefly seeing how kizaru slams you into a wall and then him actual slaming you into a wall because you cant react to his speed
i like this analysis, fighting those with dreams not with the purpose of beating them, but understanding them. He wants to care about something, but doesnt know how to.
Lazy Justice - in ancient Greece, Socrates, famously goes about asking what is justice what he finds in the end boils down to Eudonicism, fostering eudonic virtue. Justice means a perfect harmony, a perfect scrytinicity in all one’s parts. Justice is the achievement of what biology calls homeostasis, but add an ecological level. No action is needed to correct the system no thanos snap needed. The entire concept of Active justice is self defeating, contradictory
Sanji still has time to spend to traim to go against amy admiral, IT stand for Whole crew, just ignore that Luffy beated fair and square how ppl say Kaido, couse it if ur not blind generaly a lie, in my opinion kaido still had strenght to go easly but narator and well like age of character letted hem bein defekted…. Straw heats and law and that magneto guy hehe are weakest yonkos in history of op right now exept bugy he is some thing else 😂 only Shanks and BB are good now, Admirals are a bit im my opinion below them in power general
With each new chapter im ngl its starting to feel like kizaru turning coat is cope but oda might need to setup a gradual process of kizaru starting to question his morals and eventually defy saturn as all of this kizaru focus from oda will seem useless if he doesnt turn
Kizaru has ordered his troops to leave him and Saturn alone at Egghead. ....so....Saturn is alone with Kizaru at Buster Call Ground Zero.... Saturn isolated with Kizaru... What then?
Well that horse guy knocked out all the kumas sent to do a buster call so it looks like the 5 elders are handling it and he told his crew to leave cuz it's possible he will end Saturn's life .
This something I have been wondering about for awhile but whenever Kizaru(to my knowledge at least) has made a move. It had something to do with, about, or was related in some way to the Gorōsei. This got me wondering what if Kizaru is actually working for the Gorōsei directly himself and is merely using the position of Admiral to hide that fact. After all being a marine Admiral could allow Kizaru to do everything he needs to for the Gorōsei without needing to reveal himself to anyone. Being a marine Admiral is his reasoning to explain away whatever question that could have appeared otherwise. Also good reasoning why he never wanted to become Fleet Admiral himself as that is too high a position to do what he wants However recently I have been wondering what if the reverse of what happened in Water 7 arc is going to happen at Egghead. In that despite being close to Iceberg for seemingly years, Rob Lucci and co betrayed him immediately once they were told to and did not seem to care at all about doing so. What if the time Kizaru spent with Dr. Vegapunk and the others really did change him thus now that he is betraying that trust they had in him. Rather then just doing it and not caring that he has done so like in the case of CP9 and Iceberg. Kizaru does care and eventually betrays Saturn, who might be rusty. For all we knew this could be the first time in an extremely long time that Saturn has actually entered combat himself thus can not display this true full strength because of he has not been active until now.
I mean he was willing to go take out Kaido and couldn't be bothered to care when shanks showed up to marineford. He's probably like Enu. Very overpowered due to his df so he had never had a real challenge yet. The only difference is I dont think there is a natural counter like luffy for Enu
I kind of thought he was a member of the revolutionary army before this and never a marine cuz it says dragon has 87 members but we are only like 30 members have been named . So it's possible kizariu was a member all this time he never truly attacked luffy it always misses cuz you seen what he did to the other pirtes right he like fucking destroyed them his a yonko level admiral but doesn't always use it .
Kizariu was sus from the beginning he wasn't too serious when fighting luffy or the super novas so it kind of hinted that he would follow kuzan an leave the marines
Yall keep milking these kizaru's betrayal like crazy It's clear his epithet is unclear justice By oda showing him his involvement in kuma's past and his emotion but still do the order saturn gave is what make it even MORE clear that his justice is unclear, all this to strenghten kizaru's character not just trolly asian snoop dog Yall high on copium
I just love one piece. But it's astounding how we humans are. We tell stories and comprehend situations like it's literally in the hands of these anime characters what to do. Rather it's up to the creator how he wants the situation to go in the reel world. Anyway thats how we escape the reality.😂
Kizaru is not weak even with a unawakened devil fruit he is almost equal with akainu when he awakens his devil fruit just imagine how strong he will be if you agree please like
The thumbnails, the titles, the narrative, the way to edit videos is so fucking boring now. Just to keep all those poor souls wandering the internet drained from their time to monetize a few bucks. This is truly the tragedy that comes along with writing a great story. People circling around your genius only to see how to profit from it in the most mediocre way.
Raws are out & ya still believe Kizaru is an ally? Kizaru is an Admiral who serves the Celestial Dragons. He is not siding with Strawhats. He did not save Luffy.
Lol KO my ass. If that’s what KO mean to you, then queen KO big mom as well. And kizaru is already messing around while luffy still on the ground recovering. Saturn never said that kizaru lost, only acknowledged that kizaru is slow this time.
@@ajeff4730 1st in the story when someone beat someone without touching him LMAO Luffy one tap kizaru then lost his G5 form ALONE it's the time limit kizaru didnt do shit
Saturn understood why Kizaru is finding it so difficult to kill Vegapunk, and in large part it is not because of Luffy, but because of Kizaru's feelings, analyze a little better people, and clearly having a Yonko/Protagonist preventing you from doing your mission, when you can't even be serious doesn't help.
The best kizaru video, finally someone that can understand all the finer, subtle details oda gave kizaru. Too many one piece fans are dumb kids that only see the surface and fanboy over strawhats.
Even if Kizaru does something like that, I highly doubt the Strawhats would start feeling sorry for him if something bad happened to him! For once, I actually want Emperor Luffy & his Senior Officers to feel joy that the person who wronged them at Sabaody is finally getting what he deserves!
Luffy ended up considering Bellamy as a friend, the one who humiliated him and his nakamas in Jaya, they ended up accepting Hachi, who in the end make them very happy, but the guy was one of those responsible for Nami's nightmare, and I I never saw him feel sorry for Nami in any flashback of that arc, or in the Arlong Park arc itself.
@@ernestorodriguez3546Even if that's true for those 2, I don't think it is wise that Luffy should make allies out of too many people who wronged him, including Kizaru or even Akainu. Otherwise Luffy will most likely be like Naruto in these situations, and I am sure most people don't want Oda to take that chance.
that's not luffy's character or the point of OP, like @ernestorodriguez3546 said he ends up forgiving people that were once his enemies, I'm not one of those guys saying "kizaru will join strawhats" but I can see him going his own way kinda like aokiji did.
@@whatevername6553 But there are times when even people like Luffy must draw the line. Besides, would most of his followers still look up to Luffy if he showed too much sympathy for certain people?
@@dfile7598I'm not going to lie, although the idea doesn't bother me, I wouldn't like to see Kizaru as an ally of Luffy either, although I still hope that in some way, Kizaru helps Luffy indirectly to facilitate Sentoumaru's escape, and that he remains loyal, not to the world government, but to the navy and Akainu, and if Kizaru does something like that and Luffy finds out, he will recognize him, even if just a little.
Saturn ordering every marine off the island except for him and Kizaru seem like famous last words. The name of the chapter is “The Apex of Stupidity,” and it is clear Saturn has never lost trust in Kizaru despite us fans knowing he is conflicted and is not going all out.
No witnesses so it is the perfect opportunity to flip and attack Saturn.
Maybe he did not want to attack Saturn when there was 9 vice admirals who may wish to Saturns aide.
well the current chapters answers the stupidity saturn did
At first i thought that kizaru would join the straw hats but now im stuck between that and maybe he will join the revolutionary army with the rest of the team from egghead (bonny, Kuma, vegapunk and sentumaro)
I think Kizaru will join but only to act as Bonney’s preceptor and eventually become her adoptive father.
He does not really have a dream himself, but his dream could be to ensure Bonney gets to live her dream the she and Kuma had.
@@mav3622 True I just look at it as the revolutionary army isn't strong enough to fight the world government with the intro of the holy knights
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@@mav3622Maybe he just leaves
I don't think he will join the strawhats he will join dragon with bonnie .
An sentameru is alive but he got off the island by the marines he may or may not be taken as a prisoner cuz he isn't the only one that can control the pacifists all he got to say was Shaka did it and they would say ok so his not in the best condition but he did leave egghead alive saved bonnie from that gaint fall she took .
Been rewatching from Gecko Moria arc and just recently finished Dressrosa and in his military office he has a large sign above his desk having said “Unclear Justice” giving you a look into his ideals into his justice vs. Fleet Admiral Sakazuki.
Good catch! Definitely significant!
Hey mate i wanna ask about Caribou whereabouts, because there is high chance the one who gave Luffy food is Caribou and Borsalino saw it but let him did that, and he is like wildcard in this game, like Wano arc before.
And OOT, i really love this channel because i can learn English listening here, i didnt need subtitle becaue u speak and speed really easy to hear, thanks for that.
You are correct.it was caribou jus like on wano.
He's in a lot more control than he lets on. I bet he's been up to all kinds of things since people can't see/track his movement.
Also, after first learning about Future Vision and then thinking of Kizaru, I began wondering what a light-speed version of the technique would be like...
The first thing i thought abt after learning about future sight and thinking off kizaru was simply how it would work if somebody with future sight fought him, but couldnt keep up with the speed. Imagine briefly seeing how kizaru slams you into a wall and then him actual slaming you into a wall because you cant react to his speed
has the power of light with the darkest secret
i like this analysis, fighting those with dreams not with the purpose of beating them, but understanding them. He wants to care about something, but doesnt know how to.
Lazy Justice - in ancient Greece, Socrates, famously goes about asking what is justice what he finds in the end boils down to Eudonicism, fostering eudonic virtue. Justice means a perfect harmony, a perfect scrytinicity in all one’s parts. Justice is the achievement of what biology calls homeostasis, but add an ecological level. No action is needed to correct the system no thanos snap needed.
The entire concept of Active justice is self defeating, contradictory
Damn, now I feel sadge for Kizaru
We still dont know what his awakening will do. Kuzan and Sakazuki both already awakened so theres no way he didnt
You can't lose motivation, if you don't have any. The dude's been doing the bare minimum to get his paycheck from day 1 😂
Kizaru been my favourite anime character since the ass kicking he gave the super novas, I hope he allies with Luffy somehow
Is Sanji vs Kizaru happening next chapter?
Sanji still has time to spend to traim to go against amy admiral, IT stand for Whole crew, just ignore that Luffy beated fair and square how ppl say Kaido, couse it if ur not blind generaly a lie, in my opinion kaido still had strenght to go easly but narator and well like age of character letted hem bein defekted…. Straw heats and law and that magneto guy hehe are weakest yonkos in history of op right now exept bugy he is some thing else 😂 only Shanks and BB are good now, Admirals are a bit im my opinion below them in power general
It'll be someone else, maybe the giant robot cause Vegapunk's Light Pressure Gloves will only fit Giants
With each new chapter im ngl its starting to feel like kizaru turning coat is cope but oda might need to setup a gradual process of kizaru starting to question his morals and eventually defy saturn as all of this kizaru focus from oda will seem useless if he doesnt turn
I like how Saturn was the first elder we meet and the first one to die 😂
Kizaru should write a book entitled "how to have so much power and do nothing with it"
Kizaru has ordered his troops to leave him and Saturn alone at Egghead. ....so....Saturn is alone with Kizaru at Buster Call Ground Zero.... Saturn isolated with Kizaru... What then?
Well that horse guy knocked out all the kumas sent to do a buster call so it looks like the 5 elders are handling it and he told his crew to leave cuz it's possible he will end Saturn's life .
This something I have been wondering about for awhile but whenever Kizaru(to my knowledge at least) has made a move. It had something to do with, about, or was related in some way to the Gorōsei. This got me wondering what if Kizaru is actually working for the Gorōsei directly himself and is merely using the position of Admiral to hide that fact. After all being a marine Admiral could allow Kizaru to do everything he needs to for the Gorōsei without needing to reveal himself to anyone. Being a marine Admiral is his reasoning to explain away whatever question that could have appeared otherwise. Also good reasoning why he never wanted to become Fleet Admiral himself as that is too high a position to do what he wants
However recently I have been wondering what if the reverse of what happened in Water 7 arc is going to happen at Egghead. In that despite being close to Iceberg for seemingly years, Rob Lucci and co betrayed him immediately once they were told to and did not seem to care at all about doing so. What if the time Kizaru spent with Dr. Vegapunk and the others really did change him thus now that he is betraying that trust they had in him. Rather then just doing it and not caring that he has done so like in the case of CP9 and Iceberg. Kizaru does care and eventually betrays Saturn, who might be rusty.
For all we knew this could be the first time in an extremely long time that Saturn has actually entered combat himself thus can not display this true full strength because of he has not been active until now.
It makes the most sense cuz the Lift just all the sudden being about to beat Kizaru makes no sense
After seeing the last chapters of Egghead. Kizaru is not a COG that will break the machine. He is a COG broken by the machine
with black beard having a former admiral working for him now, it's nightime luffy gets one for himself.
7:00 Luffy *punched Kizaru
I mean he was willing to go take out Kaido and couldn't be bothered to care when shanks showed up to marineford. He's probably like Enu. Very overpowered due to his df so he had never had a real challenge yet. The only difference is I dont think there is a natural counter like luffy for Enu
Would be a sick twist if he was a part of the rebel alliance, only known to Dragon himself and not even to kuma and the rest of em
I kind of thought he was a member of the revolutionary army before this and never a marine cuz it says dragon has 87 members but we are only like 30 members have been named . So it's possible kizariu was a member all this time he never truly attacked luffy it always misses cuz you seen what he did to the other pirtes right he like fucking destroyed them his a yonko level admiral but doesn't always use it .
"unclear justice"
No one gna talk abt 0:24???
Ima laugh if Kizaru is actually a undercover spy like Stussi working for Vegapunk 😂
mix this with everybody loves the sunshine please
audio track..."Everybody loves the sunshine..."
Kizariu was sus from the beginning he wasn't too serious when fighting luffy or the super novas so it kind of hinted that he would follow kuzan an leave the marines
I never see him get serious when fighting ppl say he's afraid of shanks but i know thts a lie
Imagine kizaru become fleet admiral
I THINK THAT KIZARU IS A GOVERMENT DOG AND ALWAYS WILL. But that's just me.
yes,if after this arc he still loyal to world govt(even after seeing what saturn do to kuma and bonny),there is no hope for him becoming a goos giy
If the sun is the source of all light, then Kizaru will find his reason to exist thanks to Luffy.
Let’s pray for Pizzaru 🤣
Kizaru is VEGAPUNK !
Kizaru look like Elvis to me 😂
Yall keep milking these kizaru's betrayal like crazy
It's clear his epithet is unclear justice
By oda showing him his involvement in kuma's past and his emotion but still do the order saturn gave is what make it even MORE clear that his justice is unclear, all this to strenghten kizaru's character not just trolly asian snoop dog
Yall high on copium
I just love one piece. But it's astounding how we humans are. We tell stories and comprehend situations like it's literally in the hands of these anime characters what to do. Rather it's up to the creator how he wants the situation to go in the reel world. Anyway thats how we escape the reality.😂
Kizaru is not weak even with a unawakened devil fruit he is almost equal with akainu when he awakens his devil fruit just imagine how strong he will be if you agree please like
0:24 🤔
The thumbnails, the titles, the narrative, the way to edit videos is so fucking boring now. Just to keep all those poor souls wandering the internet drained from their time to monetize a few bucks. This is truly the tragedy that comes along with writing a great story. People circling around your genius only to see how to profit from it in the most mediocre way.
KIZARU IS QUASAR
Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :)
The Giant robot will save straw hat
Good points
Is this real?
Kizaru the troll
Theory theory no mi
Raws are out & ya still believe Kizaru is an ally? Kizaru is an Admiral who serves the Celestial Dragons. He is not siding with Strawhats. He did not save Luffy.
Plot twist, he is member of Rock Pirates.
Kizaru gets KO and you’re here coping.😭 Saturn wasn’t surprised he even said he understood why kizaru lost.
😭😭bro’s bringing the agenda into the story
Bro,he just kicked fanky into the stratosphere,he’s alive and well
He literally beat luffy💀
Lol KO my ass. If that’s what KO mean to you, then queen KO big mom as well. And kizaru is already messing around while luffy still on the ground recovering. Saturn never said that kizaru lost, only acknowledged that kizaru is slow this time.
@@ajeff4730 1st in the story when someone beat someone without touching him LMAO
Luffy one tap kizaru then lost his G5 form ALONE it's the time limit kizaru didnt do shit
Saturn understood why Kizaru is finding it so difficult to kill Vegapunk, and in large part it is not because of Luffy, but because of Kizaru's feelings, analyze a little better people, and clearly having a Yonko/Protagonist preventing you from doing your mission, when you can't even be serious doesn't help.
You are all delusional. Kizaru will not betray the government lah
Kizaru will recall the usopp pirates
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So which machine did kizaru break?
Admiral fanboys are watching two piece.
Hi hello, iam 6th comment😊
😂😂😂.. Another sh!t theory
The best kizaru video, finally someone that can understand all the finer, subtle details oda gave kizaru. Too many one piece fans are dumb kids that only see the surface and fanboy over strawhats.
I'm early
Ya know that no one really cares if yall early
free attention@@unknown-vm7gp
Even if Kizaru does something like that, I highly doubt the Strawhats would start feeling sorry for him if something bad happened to him! For once, I actually want Emperor Luffy & his Senior Officers to feel joy that the person who wronged them at Sabaody is finally getting what he deserves!
Luffy ended up considering Bellamy as a friend, the one who humiliated him and his nakamas in Jaya, they ended up accepting Hachi, who in the end make them very happy, but the guy was one of those responsible for Nami's nightmare, and I I never saw him feel sorry for Nami in any flashback of that arc, or in the Arlong Park arc itself.
@@ernestorodriguez3546Even if that's true for those 2, I don't think it is wise that Luffy should make allies out of too many people who wronged him, including Kizaru or even Akainu. Otherwise Luffy will most likely be like Naruto in these situations, and I am sure most people don't want Oda to take that chance.
that's not luffy's character or the point of OP, like @ernestorodriguez3546 said he ends up forgiving people that were once his enemies, I'm not one of those guys saying "kizaru will join strawhats" but I can see him going his own way kinda like aokiji did.
@@whatevername6553 But there are times when even people like Luffy must draw the line. Besides, would most of his followers still look up to Luffy if he showed too much sympathy for certain people?
@@dfile7598I'm not going to lie, although the idea doesn't bother me, I wouldn't like to see Kizaru as an ally of Luffy either, although I still hope that in some way, Kizaru helps Luffy indirectly to facilitate Sentoumaru's escape, and that he remains loyal, not to the world government, but to the navy and Akainu, and if Kizaru does something like that and Luffy finds out, he will recognize him, even if just a little.