Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE takes on Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat, Spanking Follows. Drag and Roll Race.

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  • Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE takes on Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat, Spanking Follows. Drag and Roll Race.
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  • @SamCarLegion
    @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +8

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    • @dankolicious10
      @dankolicious10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm enjoying the new format, nice work. You should add 60-130mph stats from your roll races if they can get that fast. RaceBox should record it all ready.

  • @DrHorsePower
    @DrHorsePower ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I am a Mopar guy, but I give credit where due, the Camaro is an awesome machine!

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm a Camaro guy, but I'll be fair here, that Hellcat did have extra crappy tires. The race would've been neck and neck if the chally had decent tires.

    • @DrHorsePower
      @DrHorsePower ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dallasfrost1996 hard to find people reasonable like you. 💯💯💯

    • @aj_hlct6230
      @aj_hlct6230 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dallasfrost1996 I agree! I’m a Challenger Hellcat owner with Nitto drag radials in 305’s with 20x11 rear wheels. I’m positive the race would have been much closer with my setup. But you can’t deny the ZL1 performance…..much respect! 👍🏾

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aj_hlct6230 Nice man! It's quite refreshing coming across genuine Mopar owners instead of delusional Motard fanboys. "No ZL1 is keeping up with a Hellcat" etc, etc. Both are great cars for their purposes, but yeah, ZL1's are great performance cars. Really good price to performance ratio with them. Very underrated vehicles for sure, they can hang with Hellcats on the straights while also giving the GT500 a hard time around a track!

    • @DirtyJerzeyAccountability
      @DirtyJerzeyAccountability ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@DrHorsePower Camaro guy here and ill say that if the Challenger had better tires it definitely would have been much closer... Them Camaros are no slouch tho... They move... I Respect all of the Big 3 as well

  • @SARGENTDOODLE
    @SARGENTDOODLE ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The moment you showed the tires on the hellcat I knew it was over 😂

    • @mrhyde0705
      @mrhyde0705 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They lookin like the hair on Homer's head 😬

    • @Bop6.2
      @Bop6.2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The camaro still would’ve won, it just would’ve been slightly closer. Power to weight still exist, and the fact that it’s the 1LE with more drag than the regular zl1

    • @legendaryhero-kr5pq
      @legendaryhero-kr5pq ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Bop6.2 if it was Challenger SRT demon with 1050 hp engine , i think
      it would easily beat Camaro. But they took hellcat instead of demon.
      Also they took 2017 hellcat instead of 2022 🙄

    • @Bop6.2
      @Bop6.2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@legendaryhero-kr5pq the demon doesn’t make 1050hp and it would’ve span worse cause they are still racing on a unprepared surface, also they are using the 1LE version which has significantly more drag than the regular Z, not everything is about horsepower in racing. The c8 dogs the demon in a 1/4 mile and it has less hp than a zl1

    • @Bop6.2
      @Bop6.2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@legendaryhero-kr5pq also these guys racing aren’t the best of drivers either.

  • @Mr.BobbyHellcat
    @Mr.BobbyHellcat ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Thanks again for having me Sam! I would have put my drag radials on but this is a stock Vs stock comparison. That Camaro was insane! I need get my self a 10 speed tranny 😂

    • @SARGENTDOODLE
      @SARGENTDOODLE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get better tires, Michelin perhaps!

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the hellcat came with the hellcrate for $1.00. It's supposed to have the drag radials in it. I would consider it stock equipment, especially since Dodge charges you $1.00 for it. They want you to have that package. It would've helped, but the results would have been the same. It's all about traction and power to weight ratio. Aerodynamics help a little.

    • @gradyleehughes
      @gradyleehughes ปีที่แล้ว +3

      $1.00 Hellcrate was a Demon option, not a regular hellcat.

    • @bryanthatcher7499
      @bryanthatcher7499 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the Hellcat besides traction downfall alot of times of course weight and no one says anything about aerodynamics. The Dodge of course would be a better daily driver.

    • @bryanthatcher7499
      @bryanthatcher7499 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the Demon package 📦

  • @sunsets86
    @sunsets86 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Sad to see these works of art go away. Growing up as a car fan, never really been one to just fall in love with a car! That is until I got my very first ZL1. Then I saw the article talking about the end of the Charger, Challenger and Camaro and I was deeply saddened. Finally found the car I'm going to stay with and now it's coming to an end. Thank you Dodge and Chevy for such great Muscle car products. Hopefully you reconsider 😢

    • @yoitg1148
      @yoitg1148 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully a republican like trump or Vivek gets in office and maybe they’ll stay around climate change is a hoax and making billionaires become trillionaires vehicles don’t put of a 1/10 of the pollution factories in other countries do it’s all about money like def etc engines don’t last a 1/3 of what they do when deleted electric cars don’t hold value doubt anyone will even buy the new electric ones

  • @porschegt2346
    @porschegt2346 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Put them both on a track and the lost will be much much worse.

  • @fjohngte
    @fjohngte ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Those super charged V-8s sound like dragons!

  • @elizabethe.ellerbe3792
    @elizabethe.ellerbe3792 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hellcats are amazing machines. I give them the respect they deserve although I own a ZL1. This was a great video.

  • @dz_gt500
    @dz_gt500 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The zl1 is just phenomenal. It’d be a goal to own one even tho I’ve always been more of a mustang guy. A gt350 or zl1 would be great.

  • @mrhyde0705
    @mrhyde0705 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Holy hell almost 70k miles on that hellcat. Definitely bought it to drive it. Idk how you daily it. I cry at the pump with my 11 MPG and premium 😂

  • @randybh1
    @randybh1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People can say what they like but the numbers don't lie. Both cars have the same torque at 650 lb-ft. The Camaro has 650 hp and the Hellcat has 9% more at 707hp but weighs 14% more then the Camaro. Also I'm sure the 10 speed transmission helps

    • @georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028
      @georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dodge SRT hellcat is the most trash slow piece of shit ZL11LE is monster even manual ZL11LE beat trash slow boat dodge Hellcat Chevroletperfomance team is the most top 🔝 team in the whole world for racing cars always ZL1 or Corvette owners will be big winners Ford Mustang GT500 or Dodge SRT Redyeye will be losers everyday. + European cars Lamborghini McLaren Porsche Ferrari.

    • @TheRepublicHasBeenLost
      @TheRepublicHasBeenLost 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aerodynamics may play a role too.
      The Charger is faster on the top end due to lower .cd, then the Challenger.

  • @davidholmes1771
    @davidholmes1771 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mopar Nation All Day. But how can Anyone not love the ZL1. The thing looks like a Stealth fighter with candy paint. And that agile, light weight?!
    Good luck to Anything trying to take that down. You gon need it.

  • @dallasfrost1996
    @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Camaro guy here, this race didn't do the Hellcat justice. Had that Hellcat have decent tires on instead of near bald ones, that race would've been much closer. Both these cars are evenly matched, and the outcome goes both ways.

    • @ras22273
      @ras22273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brand loyalists: "but, but... muh brand"

    • @DirtyJerzeyAccountability
      @DirtyJerzeyAccountability ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here bud and i agree with you... I Respect all of the Big 3 although the Camaro got my heart

  • @joeriv5637
    @joeriv5637 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As expected, I already knew the outcome of this but I still enjoyed watching it. Thanks Sam, you never disapoint.

    • @JasonJunior1
      @JasonJunior1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People really think that just because Chargers and Challengers have high horsepower numbers that they don’t get walked constantly and consistently. I raced a 2018 Durango Citadel with a Hemi while I was in my 2008 Escalade EXT and walked away from it. When I talked to the driver he said he was shocked because he paid for the Hemi just to launch from lights and he saw my taillights the whole time.

  • @anirbano
    @anirbano ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love love watching the ZL1 in action. Car gets way less attention than it deserves compared to the hellcats. Great loss to the performance car market with it ending production.

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely. Sad to see the Camaro go. GM never let the car reach its true potential.

    • @androidmachineworks4031
      @androidmachineworks4031 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the end of the second muscle car era. In 30-40 years, people will be paying a fortune for these "classics."

    • @jerodlewis1356
      @jerodlewis1356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dallasfrost1996 exactly imagine if that ZL1 had 750 hp ZR1 engine in it….

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jerodlewis1356 Yep, that LT5 V8 paired with the 10 speed would've been an absolute monster. GT500/Redeye killer!

    • @Gchang54
      @Gchang54 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least the ice Camaro finished strong

  • @danieldickerson4838
    @danieldickerson4838 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    And this is the track focused ZL1 with a bunch of downforce and drag, which makes its win even more impressive!

    • @texasstreetkings537
      @texasstreetkings537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what a redeye is for

    • @SRTHEMI
      @SRTHEMI ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@texasstreetkings537don't need a redeye to beat a zl1 man 😂😂😂😂

    • @dz_gt500
      @dz_gt500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SRTHEMI Yes this race just showed us, stock vs stock.

    • @SRTHEMI
      @SRTHEMI ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dz_gt500 how about you look up races where hellcats beat zl1s dont purposely ignore them & act like they don't exist 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I wish i had go pro cameras to record my runs i had with zl1s.

    • @dz_gt500
      @dz_gt500 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SRTHEMI There’s videos of all sorts of cars beating each other what’s your point?🤷🏽‍♂️ These races were stock vs stock how they came out from the factory. Car and Driver also did a test with the gt500, zl1 & redeye….the redeye came in 3rd, zl1 2nd & gt500 1st. You can mod anything to be faster with enough money but this wasn’t what the video was about.

  • @slickrichelicopter8977
    @slickrichelicopter8977 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tires make a huge difference. The Hellcat struggles to get any traction.

  • @thebreakbarrelshow
    @thebreakbarrelshow ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I prefer this format over the last few videos.. but , i think i speak for many by saying we miss the "Today I'm driving !" Opener..lol

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am tweaking some stuff. It will get better :)

    • @thebreakbarrelshow
      @thebreakbarrelshow ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SamCarLegion was definitely not meant as criticism. I love the channel.. but , i know what you mean by tweaking your videos.. If you are into air rifles , thats what my channel is about and i am always thinking of how i should tweak my videos as well..

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thebreakbarrelshow i am all good buddy:) no harm to give your opinion. I appreciate it

  • @robwwhit3453
    @robwwhit3453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 2018 Charger Hellcat M/T drag radial only ran a neighbors 2019 ZL1 with tune and exhaust. Unprepped surface the Hellcat won two races from a dig by 1/2 to 3/4 cars, no roll races were done.

    • @sulkmahidonkeydek3424
      @sulkmahidonkeydek3424 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering how the zl1 is more of a track car than drag car, he gave u ur race now u need to give him his race via roll

    • @robwwhit3453
      @robwwhit3453 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sulkmahidonkeydek3424 Sold the Hellcat after 4 years, it was trapping 124 to125mph on the factory timer in the car for 1/4 mile, also ran it up to 190 mph once. BTW I like the ZL1 Camaros.

    • @sulkmahidonkeydek3424
      @sulkmahidonkeydek3424 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robwwhit3453 I’m not a dig person, prefer rolls less variables. Seeing if I’m faster or they are is more than satisfying. Less excuses for both sides

  • @izaakavena4600
    @izaakavena4600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember the zl1 1le is a track race car not a drag race car made for coverings nothing can touch it in its class 😊

  • @petermeister7191
    @petermeister7191 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So proud to own one of these glorious V8 masterpieces in the shape of my ´18 ZL1 with a 6 speed manual transmission. What a car!

  • @ItsRoydaBoy23
    @ItsRoydaBoy23 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nice drag race Sam! Please include the 0-60 in future videos also😊

    • @someferarriguy7910
      @someferarriguy7910 ปีที่แล้ว

      0-60 is kinda irrelevant now a days.

    • @goblinzl1
      @goblinzl1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@someferarriguy7910 lol this is true with the power cars are making before even modding. i was surprised that that zle won every time. i expected close races. unless these cars arent stock.

  • @Jojo-mp4ec
    @Jojo-mp4ec ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am always confused on how many MOPAR fans live in the delusion that hellcats are the fastest. Edmunds even released a vid of the ZL1 beating the red eye (note, the GT500 was also in the race and won).

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      every 1/4 time online shows the ZL1 faster.

    • @aj_hlct6230
      @aj_hlct6230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s because they always want to use the useless launch control in the Hellcats/Redeyes. LC in HEMI’s are straight garbage. Also first mod I did when I bought my 2016 Hellcat is swap out the crappy Pirelli tires with 305 Nitto DR’s with 20x11 wheels. My 0-60 went from 3.8 to 3.5 on the street and 3.3 at the track. Stock for stock Hellcats are no match for the other competition with similar power, but better tires will match or beat them. We blame the car company’s crappy choice in tires!

    • @BruceDragon-sf1tr
      @BruceDragon-sf1tr ปีที่แล้ว

      Them Dodge fans are on crack.
      Dodge builds a hype up piece of trash and try to compare it to Chevy or Ford... hilarious 🤣🤣

    • @aj_hlct6230
      @aj_hlct6230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BruceDragon-sf1tr I disagree. Had my Hellcat for 7 years and only issue I had to replace one of the active exhaust valves. I’ve raced my car at the track few times and done a few highway pulls. Car still looks and feels like the day I drove him off the dealer lot. As far as I’m concerned, your statement is false!

    • @aj_hlct6230
      @aj_hlct6230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BruceDragon-sf1tr Also I have mad respect for Mustangs and Camaros. Hell I wouldn’t mind having a Camaro SS 1LE manual in my stable if I could afford it. The Mopar are way more comfortable and practical, let alone fun to drive!

  • @jeremclean4668
    @jeremclean4668 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hellcat needs some decent rubber. Also I see a lot of hellcat guys don’t know how to launch these cars(not saying that the owner doesn’t know how to launch his car I just mean in general). From a dig you put the car in second gear and turn all drive modes to track EXCEPT suspension, put suspension in comfort or street mode so when you launch it squats in the rear due to it being on a softer setting which helps with the weight transfer. This gives you a way better launch then you would have with the suspension being stiff. Good runs though nonetheless. That Maro looks so 🔥 with the 1LE package. 💯💯💯

  • @leroyjr261
    @leroyjr261 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Zero Traction 😢 Kills the Cat 🐈‍⬛ Everytime!!!

    • @Mofasa_zl1
      @Mofasa_zl1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so what happen in the roll then where there wasn't traction issues, cause it still lost, i ran these combo many times stock to stock using the regular zl1 which is faster on asphalt and straight away and the zl1 always won, when i add sticky or mods then i keep getting different results back and forth

    • @leroyjr261
      @leroyjr261 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mofasa_zl1 Ur absolutely correct about the roll as well but 2 factors give the ZL1 a great advantage even with less power it’s 700lbs lighter and has and Amazing 10 spd Transmission!! It’s also has better gearing and Traction by far. But don’t get me wrong I’m former Hellcat owner so I’m not guessing figures here.

    • @jeremclean4668
      @jeremclean4668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mofasa_zl1 you need to rewatch the vid cause the HC spun during the rolls too.

    • @Mofasa_zl1
      @Mofasa_zl1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leroyjr261 i love both and had the opportunity to own both, as for the weight took mine to VMP track, without me in the car its a little over 4200 lbs so they is really only 200 lbs difference in reality, the transmission is definitely a greater advantage but for me its how they designed it that gives it far more advantage

    • @Mofasa_zl1
      @Mofasa_zl1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremclean4668 i did many times, the kitty lost traction and caught traction while it was slightly still in front the camaro and both times the camaro came around the kitty. 10 speed transmission and aero is better on the camaro so it will happen every time stock to stock, of dodge had pay more attention to little details like this it would be a monster and also i know they make the throttle bodies kill the power of the car purposely to save the motor from dumb drivers who dont know how to brake in a motor properly

  • @wusthof641
    @wusthof641 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Doesn't the maro have cup 2s. A much stickier tire which as we all saw the hellcat could have used

    • @billnye5183
      @billnye5183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a track performance car it’s supposed to have sticker tires the hellcat is not a track vehicle

    • @danieldickerson4838
      @danieldickerson4838 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Goodyear 3Rs actually, so it basically comes with semi slicks from factory.

    • @jeffnoob8448
      @jeffnoob8448 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those tires suck ass fyi.

  • @billshoe22191
    @billshoe22191 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As soon as I saw the tires on the Hellcat I said it has no chance

  • @hugosanchez4037
    @hugosanchez4037 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Both awesome cars.

  • @DavidMorales008
    @DavidMorales008 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Camaro is my favorite and I love to watch it win

  • @392Low
    @392Low ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Literally every race that cat spun😳

    • @robertclark6888
      @robertclark6888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tires on the cat look horrible. Should’ve used a 2022 wide body challenger with 305s I think it changes the race outcome

    • @Jamie-ww3yz
      @Jamie-ww3yz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@robertclark6888 think the Camaro still wins

  • @FJTabb
    @FJTabb ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Now you need to add a GT 500 in the mix.

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s first this is a fight for second more exciting

    • @camclarke9952
      @camclarke9952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@CoyoteFTW plz,the gt500 loses often to the zl1

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camclarke9952 Not on rolls.

    • @Roughcut-69
      @Roughcut-69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s funny because when the three were raced when the GT500 first came out, it destroyed both of them!😂

    • @yusufgta4341
      @yusufgta4341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. Put a carbon fiber track package GT500 with the cup 2 tires and not base model GT500 and the GT500 wins. GT500 beat both the hellcat redeye and Camaro ZL1 1LE in the drag on a video

  • @MindisJurenas
    @MindisJurenas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    zL1 for the WIN! I can say results are 100% accurate as I’ve ran up against few cats in my a10 zL1 🚀

  • @chrism869
    @chrism869 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ah yes the great american battle, thats a walk as sam would say. the zl1 is clearly better and lighter and the 10 speed helps a lot

    • @negativezero3107
      @negativezero3107 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha no, everyone wants to bring a dodge with small tires, nobody would ever try to lay down that HP on those tiny tires, it is only to hope the other one wins, and no you do not need a prepped track, just put on the proper size tires and watch the beating, now go down to Texas and watch the real 1/4 mile races, they will have the right tires and scorch those things, but they will also have shit with 5000 hp.

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 ปีที่แล้ว

      @negativezero yeah, with a lot of power comes a lot of responsibility, I've seen lamb's with 3500hp just shooting of like bullets down 1/4 mile, imagine the Gforce on that omg would pass out

  • @Lucianocabral745
    @Lucianocabral745 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think we all knew the outcome 😂

  • @SRTHEMI
    @SRTHEMI ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tires the 1le have much better tires. Put a decent set on that hellcat & run it back!

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're evenly matched. The outcome would go either way.

    • @billnye5183
      @billnye5183 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a track performance car…it has better tires for track times not drag times

  • @Welcometofacsistube
    @Welcometofacsistube ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another hellcat that needs a driver mod

  • @theeducatedredneck4144
    @theeducatedredneck4144 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the new format with the ET's disclosed. 👍

  • @tonybobay6276
    @tonybobay6276 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to see the Camaro against a Trackhawk. The AWD on the Trackhawk should smoke the Camaro on the launch, but the higher power/weight ratio of the Camaro should catch up quickly. Would be quite interesting.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว

      thats a loss guaranteed for the ZL1

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe there is a video.

    • @Unknown98832
      @Unknown98832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Iv raced a hawk in my Z before. They get some distance from a dig. But within the quarter mile the ZL will catch up and surpass.

  • @carlosolimon7513
    @carlosolimon7513 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dane my friend, that’s the consequences of spending that much money on whiskey instead of proper tires hahahaha

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Mr.BobbyHellcat
      @Mr.BobbyHellcat ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What else am I supposed to drink on my boat

    • @mrhyde0705
      @mrhyde0705 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Mr.BobbyHellcatever clear because it doubles as octane boost.

  • @netgnostic1627
    @netgnostic1627 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can we see a ZL1 vs a Demon next?

  • @argentrocks88
    @argentrocks88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang wish I was at my trailer to walk across the street and watch this

  • @truckingjamaicans5045
    @truckingjamaicans5045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Channel has improved love it

  • @CoCo-Philly
    @CoCo-Philly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my Ro SS. That's all I'm going to say Lol and no I don't have a zl1, and I love those also but I don't need one to have a little fun.
    Maybe the SRT should race some tanks.
    I'm just kidding.

  • @SovereignKnight74
    @SovereignKnight74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zl1 has a 5-year technological advantage against the older Hellcat. Do '17 vs `17.

    • @Justaeuropeanman
      @Justaeuropeanman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2022 hellcats are exactly the same nothing has changed so it wouldn’t matter 😂

    • @billnye5183
      @billnye5183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tell me what technology has changed in the dodge 💀💀 plz inform me

    • @nemesis_zl1180
      @nemesis_zl1180 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

  • @Chriskary1
    @Chriskary1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't think anybody was surprised by the results in this race lmfao!

  • @Ahmed___9
    @Ahmed___9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea the hellcat trans is a little bit outdated compared to the ZL1 and GT500... Mopar gonna have to bring a 10spd as well

  • @synex5358
    @synex5358 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not to be that guy but everyone knows u aren’t supposed to drag race the 1le, it’s got crazy downforce. Great races otherwise

  • @armofiron7435
    @armofiron7435 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice match-up, well filmed and with times. Love it. It seems like Hellcat couldn't launch well. Did they try a few races and that was its best launch? We hear the owner say at the end that he should have done a burnout before. Nevertheless, nice cars!

  • @christianf.2025
    @christianf.2025 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not surprised. Camaro W🎉

  • @mcarlkv53
    @mcarlkv53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Louis Chevrolet would be proud. Wish Mary Barra could see this race. I own a 6th generation camaro. Great alpha chassis. My v6 335hp runs fantastic. Best car I ever owned… too bad it’s being discontinued… I like the looks of the challenger but its power to weight ratio is a little high. I wish more people could at least drive the camaro on the highway and on twisty turny roads to see how nice it really is….

  • @kevincuthrell1176
    @kevincuthrell1176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would have been even worse for the hellcat if they had a regular ZL1 .Those wings on a 1le ain't friendly in a drag race.

  • @andrereaves2712
    @andrereaves2712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm wondering if the hell kitty had some better street rubber if it could keep up better. The stock tires that come on the hell kitty in my opinion suck

    • @jeremclean4668
      @jeremclean4668 ปีที่แล้ว

      With better rubber and a proper launch it would’ve definitely been closer although the ZL1 would’ve still took it, it would’ve been a closer race for sure.

  • @bigd1345
    @bigd1345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dodge is constantly getting spanked by the competition. Dodge should lower the prices, especially since the competition is cheaper. Heartbreaking, cuz I'm a Mopar fan.

  • @rushja4171
    @rushja4171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sam!!!! This was perfect!!! Good job on the details.... You find it this is it!!!!!!

  • @jimwallace4164
    @jimwallace4164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some would want to yell out 'MERICA, but I'm more inclined to yell out "BROMPTON" IYKYK..... Sick races, catch you next time lads!

  • @k.tucker2011
    @k.tucker2011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how many people expected the Camaro to lose 😂 all that fast and the furious vin diesel hype sold you guys lemons 😂

  • @Zle_blacklightning
    @Zle_blacklightning ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When he said 10 speed I already knew

  • @ShariaLawAllDay
    @ShariaLawAllDay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why wasn't there a view from inside the Camaro? I need to hear that glorious LT4 from inside! These are my two favorite muscle cars anyway. An LS/LT/Hemi pushrod V8 with a cross-plane crankshaft will always trump a Coyote.

  • @JohnSmith-yn1qv
    @JohnSmith-yn1qv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hellcat, gt500, zl1, all great machines, all right there at the finish. Can't really go wrong with any of them. Just depends on how you like to spend your time driving. I chose the zl1.

  • @robertclark6888
    @robertclark6888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone notice the hellcats tires looked like they weren’t in the best shape. Maybe why it spun every race and that ZL1 capitalized on that. Also why the older hellcat and not a 2022 widebody with 305s?Both great cars not hating.

  • @cincoinachevy8627
    @cincoinachevy8627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a good race 💯 now we have to see hellcat jailbreak vs the zl1 1le

  • @kevinharrissr5255
    @kevinharrissr5255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man the 2017 hellcat is looking same as it's ever looked. Maybe because the car is the same since 2015.

  • @skydiver1013
    @skydiver1013 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more thing, in 2015 it was Dodge releasing the 707 HP Hellcat that started all of this. Chevy & Ford were forced to play catch-up.

  • @emrahsoltanovv
    @emrahsoltanovv ปีที่แล้ว

    The biggest advantage of Camaro competitors is that it is light.

  • @32nitrogen30
    @32nitrogen30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The transmission is a huge factor. I believe dodge has the more powerful engine but the tranny has got to be upgraded

  • @Ryan.C97998
    @Ryan.C97998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now put the new GT500 on the race together with these two and show who’s the real king

    • @yusufgta4341
      @yusufgta4341 ปีที่แล้ว

      GT500 will win especially if it's the carbon fiber track package GT500 with the cup 2 tires which is very sticky

  • @pb4920
    @pb4920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dam that hellcat sounds insane is that stock exhaust?

  • @precisionmotors
    @precisionmotors ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Camaro ZL1 for the win.

  • @ph00ny1
    @ph00ny1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very surprising considering stock hellcat almost always beats ZL1 and normal ZL1 is quicker than ZL1 with 1LE package

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cant beat a ZL1. Lighter car and better tranny

    • @dylan5367
      @dylan5367 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@Sam CarLegion y'all clearly don't know how to race with these cars. If you launch the hellcat PROPERLY, and roll race it PROPERLY it most definitely will beat a ZL1. There is video evidence of it literally all over youtube.

    • @SRTHEMI
      @SRTHEMI ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@SamCarLegionlol stop acting clueless. TH-cam is right here for you quick search will prove otherwise 😂😂😂😂. I race also & when us hellcat owners actually have decent tires its bye bye!

    • @jeffnoob8448
      @jeffnoob8448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My PDR is full of hellcats loosing
      Also you race a zl1 in track mode with sub file in race mode. That's full power lol not sport which defaults to wet mode 😊

  • @300CME
    @300CME ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that needs to be shown in these test, are what tire brands they are running. You can see that the Camaro is running pilot sport 4s tires. That challenger didn’t stand a chance, cause all you heard was spinning.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It won't make a huge difference but will run it again, against the GT500 and these two.

    • @6.2Savage
      @6.2Savage ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SamCarLegion actually the pliot sports makes a huge difference I have them on my Redeye and they are wayyy better than the PERELLI’s the hellcat comes with

    • @mrhyde0705
      @mrhyde0705 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SamCarLegionconsidering the hellcat tires were spent and it was only half a second or less behind due to not having traction I'd say at the very least some tires with tread will either give it a fighting chance or the upper hand. All depends on the driver though.

  • @mikerobinson5507
    @mikerobinson5507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What good is all them horses if you can't put em to the ground.....Go team Chevy.

  • @readyon3506
    @readyon3506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a chevy die-hard fan but the Hellcat needs Driver mod.

    • @Bamabrute85
      @Bamabrute85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It needed tires. The rear tires were probably less than 1/2 tread.

  • @dollars_rd1073
    @dollars_rd1073 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It has now been settled

  • @MrNysmoke25
    @MrNysmoke25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo nice win if a zl1 loses to a hellcat stock please bring your car to a dealer gt500 has more top end think it would be in last place till 60ish than reel both cars in

  • @Raven_A5
    @Raven_A5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The ZL1 is damn near as fast as a C7 Z06, so I knew it would beat the boat base Hellcat Lmao. In the Hellcats defense them tires looked pretty close to being toast.

    • @ph00ny1
      @ph00ny1 ปีที่แล้ว

      1LE is supposed to be slower than the normal ZL1 and normal ZL1 almost always loses to hellcat

    • @mrjim401
      @mrjim401 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and the GT500 can and does beat them both

    • @yusufgta4341
      @yusufgta4341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ZL1 1LE has stickier tires than the normal ZL1 tho

    • @SRTHEMI
      @SRTHEMI ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol hey goofy so explain us in hellcats that beat zl1s & fully stock also? Oh ok

    • @Raven_A5
      @Raven_A5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yusufgta4341 Im aware of this, that gave the zl1 an even greater advantage then it had already.

  • @skilyfetv4459
    @skilyfetv4459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LMFAO im honestly SHOCKED the results where this close. please go to the 1:46 mark on the video and look at the poor tires on that hellcat!!! vs a zl1 1LE on fresh r compound pilot sports. "hey lets go drag race a 707hp rwd car on bald 275 all seasons LMFAO!! this isnt a knock on the zl1 either i think its the best $ for $ muscle car on the market. But by god this is pathetic.

  • @m3awd598
    @m3awd598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to believe this was a 3.7sec 0-60 run with all that spinning for the Hellcat. Do you have a racebox/dragy or just estimate based on the video?

  • @_Tra_B
    @_Tra_B ปีที่แล้ว

    having both ZL1s put the power down to the ground better without tires. From a roll hellcat

  • @KJ_7k
    @KJ_7k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you own a hellcat please change the tires, you will never put all the power down if you don’t have a good tire

  • @playaplaya05
    @playaplaya05 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cooomme on!!! Whoever is driving the Hellcat is driving it like my grandma would!!! 😂😂😂

  • @jesusm2159
    @jesusm2159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hellcat needs wheel hop support kit

  • @andreknight7671
    @andreknight7671 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weight to power ratio not to mention superior traction control management and bigger tires.

  • @SVT-gj8tp
    @SVT-gj8tp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think the hellcat ran a 3.7 0-60 spinning all the way down the track.

    • @nemesis_zl1180
      @nemesis_zl1180 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking the exact same thing.. maybe numbers they achieved prior or stole the numbers lol...

  • @jayk.2276
    @jayk.2276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hellcat owners are always cringey as hell in race video comments 😂

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't exactly disagree, but in the Mopar people's defense, that Hellcat had bald tires. Though that wouldn't have made the Hellcat really any faster than the ZL1. The race wouldve been neck and neck though. They're both evely matched, and the outcomes goes both ways.

    • @jayk.2276
      @jayk.2276 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dallasfrost1996 it’s just funny, most people know that cats are so damn fast, but all the fans just always need to find ways to prove it. I mean I am a Chevy guy, but it’s a no brainer that those cats are usually pulling on zl1s. At least all the videos I’ve seen on TH-cam, and believe me when I say I’ve tried finding videos of the Camaros winning 😂😂😂

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayk.2276 Yeah, I hear you. Not all are the same though, there's true Mopar fans, and there's also what I like to call "motard" fans. There's plenty of races out there that I've seen of ZL1's beating Hellcats, and vice versa.

  • @southernbrothersbackyardca6616
    @southernbrothersbackyardca6616 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Little hard to hear if the challenger sounds good at the beginning Rev, to busy clipping the microphone to actually hear the car right. 😂

  • @WickedIonic5N
    @WickedIonic5N ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m surprised at the outcome, I know the Camaro is lighter, but usually HC’s come alive at the top end. I wonder if the HC was running radials would the outcome differ. Solid video.

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol. 57 extra hp is not enough to overcome a 700 lbs weight disadvantage. The camaro is made way better. Camaro can actually be a road course/track car. You can road course/track the challenger, but it will always lose. It is made for straight line speed, and highway corners. But it makes sense, because the Camaro and Mustangs are classified as Pony cars, not muscle cars with the exception being the GT500 (weighs 4200lbs), and even that will run circles around the hellcat twins on any track.

    • @WickedIonic5N
      @WickedIonic5N ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eastsidegeorgiaboy as a second time Camaro 6th gen V8 owner, after having two Scats, I completely agree. I know that segment is a trim down. But I could tell the weight and construction difference between them dramatically. Not to mention the scats I’ve pulled away from during some friendly rolls/digs. It’s just crazy what .02 milliseconds can do between cars on a strip.

  • @patjoly3776
    @patjoly3776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure it would have changed the outcome but have you switched lanes at some point as we all know power is nothing without traction?

  • @jjsyn6367
    @jjsyn6367 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO ONE has figured out how to get a rwd car off the line like chevy has.

  • @Sithene
    @Sithene ปีที่แล้ว

    its crazy how much distance there is between the two from a car that is 0.2 faster

  • @skydiver1013
    @skydiver1013 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hellcat can't beat the ZL1 Camaro in the 1/4 mile drag or on the track; it's too heavy. However, the Hellcat looks 100% better than the Camaro, holds its value better, and is still fun.

  • @toddaulner5393
    @toddaulner5393 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Hellcat is fatter than my 1996 Buick Roadmaster? Blows my mind!!!

  • @juancarraballo9731
    @juancarraballo9731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice race tho. & happy 420 to all 🌳

  • @johnlawton6587
    @johnlawton6587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should have been a 2022 Red-eye unfair matchup.

  • @blk98ta
    @blk98ta 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya'll act like 62k miles is supposed to mean anything lol that's nothing in a modern car. I had a ls1 car back in the day from about new to 180k miles. Still ran like new when I sold it. 62k is nothing for a modern American muscle car.

  • @Americaneagle78
    @Americaneagle78 ปีที่แล้ว

    And this is why everybody has a haircut and not a ZL1

  • @ericn3221
    @ericn3221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boat vs sports car. Very cool! Thank you Sam for showing 0 to 60 and quarter mile. That was the only thing missing from your videos and my guess that will add subscribers.

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By definition, a sports car has 2 doors, and 2 seats or less. Camaro and Mustangs are typically 2+2 cars, classified as pony cars. Corvette is a sports car, not a muscle car. Challengers are muscle cars. Chargers are muscle sedans(i guess). The old school chargers are muscle cars, just like chevelle and nova.

    • @angeleenasworld7194
      @angeleenasworld7194 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Eastsidegeorgiaboy u new to the car world or what?

    • @kronk9418
      @kronk9418 ปีที่แล้ว

      Femme pony car***

  • @eddiestewart3854
    @eddiestewart3854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ALWAYS BET ON CHEVY

  • @coronelrony4616
    @coronelrony4616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CAMARO THE BEST

  • @jimmyclark9595
    @jimmyclark9595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mustang or Dodge cannot handle the new camaro.

  • @usacshaker1
    @usacshaker1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Camaro for the win!!!🇺🇸😎👍💯