wow, the only farming strategy that really actualy works, tested a lot strategies lately bro, the essences one, which was kinda slow and little profit, the harbingers, rituals, but the only one that actually made money for me is yours , had 6.5 divines profit in an hour bro thats crazy thanks so much finally someone serious with what they post on yt
@@flamekaster3032 yes, he said in the video that it is a "hidden chance" to upgrade after you click it which is ofc wrong. It is a visual bug. If you tp out and in the bug goes away. This has been in the game since crop rotation was introduced
@@PathofEvening you dont have to tp out, just exit and enter sacred grove and it will display properly. You have to be careful with that bug as sometimes it might impact the choices you make when choosing which crop you decide to hit. Unfortunately this bug is not ironed out since crop rotation implementation and i choose to exit/enter sacred grove before any meaningful choice to be sure that i see how yellows have upgraded
this strategy has been amazing for me over the past few days ! I've tried various combinations of scarabs -- i've settled on doubling, corruption (for 8 mods), monstrous lineage, hordes, and titanic. titanic being more of a flex spot, sometimes i swap it out for another monstrous lineage or multitude for more maps. I'm running Eater for more quant/qual. thank you so much for this !
Great work, I really appreciate this video. There is plenty of info for super expensive strats but I simply prefer to do mid investment strats and keep it moving along
my maths are not the best so i apologize if i am wrong, but if you want to farm yellow plans, you need to pick the Yellow Drought nodes on the Atlas map. Ideally you only want 1 Yellow plant in the grove and you need to reduce the chances of Yellow plants spawning :-)
No, neither of those are correct. Having multiple yellows is fine, it allows you to work on multiple potential end plants and then go with the one that is built up the most instead of just hoping the only yellow plant you have upgrades every time. Additionally, because yellow plants are the least common, taking Vivid Drought increases your chances of getting a zero-yellow Harvest, which is very bad. Everyone saying otherwise is operating on outdated information from before Patch 3.24, when you could guarantee a yellow plant in every Sacred Grove via Sextant.
This actually pairs perfectly with map farming as harvest only takes 1 scarab slot so just 1 less carto scarab of multitude. Escalation + Corruption + Multitude + Lineage + Doubling makes perfect sense. Not sure if there be enough points to fit in shrines though which is kinda sad coz who doesn't like to go vroom vroom.
There is a reason why for Crop rotation you make less chance to spawn of YELLOW crops. Your main profit is from last crop, so you ned only 1 or 2 plot with yellow juice, and if you disable purpe or blue juice there is higher chance to get 2 double-yellow juice plots that is BAD. In your own exemple you disable purple juice and get 1 plot of purple crops, now reverse taht situation to gein 1 yellow instead of 1 purple and you will understand what goal actualy is. There is a difference between Croprotation Atlas (reduce yellow) and non-crop rotation (reduce blue/purple)
I'd like to mention that Drawn to Power keystone adds at least one magic pack to shrines so there is nice synergy between this and magic pack scarab. Also sulphite-hoarding monsters are mostly blue mobs from my experience.
Aye bro, I love llarold and his channel manager to. But God helped you get that mirror drop lmaoo ain't shit he said in any video have to do with that.
If youre doing maps in 4-5 mins, then youre only running 12-15 maps per hour. Scarabs of doubling are 20-22c; divs are close to 190c. Actual profit per hour is closer to 6div
@@PathofEvening that why old people think young people lazy and don't wanna work and they think it easy to do stuff XD They always forget price changes and inflation
Thanks for watching our content. On the subject of the guide: Maybe but not for a bit. We have an expansion launching for the game on our other channel this Thursday, so only the videos we preplanned are happening until we're done with that game's "league start."
Usually crop rotation is bait for most players. for anyone who finds crop rotation to be confusing its truly not worth it. i found after several 20 map tests of each strategy that crop rotation yields 20% less juice per map on average. However, you do get to target farm yellows. The TLDR is if you are NOT using the awaken imbued crafting scarab then normal harvest is better because you will clear the harvest faster. less thinking etc.. same amount of divs/map profit in the long run ( at current market value) ... its just do you like to gamble cuz let me tell you those juicy 5 crop plots + no wither feels so good, so i don't blame you if you crop rotation. i know i do cuz im an addict and i need to gamble.
If you want to upgrade strat even further horned scarab of awakening is also good for imbude harvest on map device it gives 40% chance for plots to not wilt ofcourse its another gamble mechanic but it can result in some really juicy outcomes
That does require a somewhat different approach since the chance of not wilting is 60% instead of 10%. It's also a much more expensive setup, so there's more risk involved.
Any update on the Earthshatter builds? I already maxed out your recommended build and dont know how to improve it. Thank you for the videos, I wouldn't know what to do without you XD
It's a good strat. It is. Don't be fooled by these numbers though. Look at the drops he got. Key, Divine Beauty, Divine Orb, Einhar memory. That alone is like 5divs.You'll realistically be making 6divs and hour. I juiced all my t16 maps with 100%+ quant with tree and scarabs and ran 40 maps in 2 hours. I averaged 6divs an hour. If you have a ridiculously fast build you can make 10div an hour by blasting through an extra 10 maps per hour.
We absolutely cannot win with video titles because, again, this is what WE made. We stated it in the video a few times, too. Maybe you run maps slower than us. Maybe your RNG is worse. We can't guarantee you'll make a specific number of divines - good thing we never did.
Did this strat for 20 maps took me around 1.5 hrs got around 14d worth of loot based on wealthy exile, maybe around 11d? would actually be sellable. around 4.8 div worth of investment, so profit for me is around 6.2 div, got no lucky drops no raw divine valdo's or anything like that yellow lifeforce and abom maps are my most expensive drops
@@diegogarber1 you would be. 8-modded regex map is what.. 10-15c. Duping harvest.. 15? Horned is what, 140? That rounds out to a divine/170c. You can easily walk out of a juiced 4-plot harvest with above 8-9-10+k lifeforce. My pr in a t16 is 14k.
I remember spending a divine worth of investment per map on crop rotation, that supposed to be low investment strategy. By using horned scarab of awakening.
Its actually an broken way of easy currency, if you know what to do on market, you dont use it in maps no, it is very profitable based on where you buy it, and where you sell it
most people will just burn their currency if they try to run this, to make it profitable you need to run 10 mod maps (8 from the map, 2 extra from scarabs) with full eater nodes for even more quant, kill the map boss -> clear the entire map for quant altars and then do the grove, where you can get fucked over multiple times and get shit groves with 3 plots for multiple maps in a row, it's not "bad luck" it's just rng and how the game works, you will not get full groves most of the time, also saying that you can run this with 12c/map when just the scarab of doubling is almost 16/17c and going up is funny, harvest is just gambling, especially crop rotation, if you want a stable source of currency just do expedition, it's literally the easiest thing you can do to make money
It's kind of a "floor" strategy. Even in the worst-case scenario, Expedition has a pretty decent minimum on the amount of random currency it generates per hour via Tujen, and there's potential to occasionally make big pops of currency in the form of raw Divines from him, good crafted items from Rog, big drops in a Logbook, and so on. Bottom line: It ain't much, but it's honest work.
Another great video. Any plans to cover Ritual this league? i think you mentioned you didn't like it in your 3 farming strategies video but that was before they nerfed the wildwood damage.
I've been doing rituals and yes, they nerfed the damage but then still send those weird volatile things that can be very hard to see or hear when there's chaos in the map (and will happen at rituals for sure). It's been rippy
As the crop rotation works : Its upgrading the diffrent colour of plants - Why would you block the purple plant instead of vivid one? In that case (theoracly speaking?) in the Grove we can have large amount of Vivid and Blue juice and we cant upgrade the vivid one by other vivid plant.Its not better to block vivid juice and morelikely see less vivid plants in Grove and pump only one/two trees with other colours? Thanks as always for the altas tree!
Yellow is the least common plant. By blocking it, you increase the chances of a no-Yellow Sacred Grove, which is worthless. The idea that you need to take Vivid Drought comes from outdated info when players could force Yellow into every Grove with Sextants. Now that you can't, it is bait.
I'm new to mapping. What is scribe a div card onto a map mean. Can we get a laymens step by step on what to do. Alot of what is said in theese is spoken in elite poe talk. Which I am not and don't understand. Only thing I got going for me is I followed a build guide so I'm able to clear up to t9 maps Please help us uninitiated understand this start so we to can get end game items
This is very helpful in understanding harvest crop rotation as a new player. I'm wondering, is this a strategy I should change to once I've gotten more map bonuses done? Or I should start this early as I'm around level 88 with 50+ atlas skills. Thank you 😊
what do u think of using elder scarab and take top part of atlas tree for more packsize? moreover it spawn unique portal, so u can also add titanic scarab for bit of gold and unique instead of 2 adversaries scarab that doesnt do much
Make another video comparing more yellow vs less yellow? Unless T3 or T4 drop more than the double the life force than than the lesser tier, it's better two have two of lesser tier mods right?
(yes I'm literally going through all the strategies for the fun of it.) wouldn't it be better efficiency wise to drop one of the meh scarabs for a sacred Grove scarab and then simply put all the points for blocking nodes and sacred Grove chance into something else? Like idk all the maps node, all the maps explicit nodes etcetc. This way you could run a rolled map instead a 8 mods map and have the same efficiency basically. (with the wheel on the top left of tree of maps 85% crafted maps are very similar to 8 mods map)? I think ill try that but I'd like your opinion on it.
8% quant from map device + a 1C sacred grove scarab puts a lot less pressure on the Atlas Tree I feel. Didn't know you can put multiples of the same scarab though im gonna have to try double adversaries and searing exarch. Is Exarch safer than Eater? Cuz i keep getting fucked by eater maps mods
@@PathofEveningsweet to know, also just thought of the scarab of awakening which gives some insane drops. Imbued harvest is +50% chance not to wilt and I think 50% more monsters
Nope, that runs the risk of having 0 Yellow plots, since Yellow is the least common crop color. People suggesting otherwise are operating on pre-3.24 information when you could force a Yellow plot via Sextants.
Harvest already takes long enough without crop rotation. 😂 I’m not a fan, but I love harvest. Plus juice isn’t as profitable as it was last few season where yellow juice was like 4000-5000 per divine sometimes even lower. Last time I checked it’s like 10,000 per divine. Great video though!
Can someone explain why when i block only yellow plants, it seems to show up more? my last 3 maps i didn't even have any purple. It has been like this all season for me.
hey, in the atlas tree, isnt going in the yellow path better since u dont want to end up with double yellow if possible to finish and upgrade the most possible yellow?
Nope. Ending with a double yellow is good, you want options. The goal is to have a max upgraded yellow st the end, not to just have one yellow plot in the grove and hope it upgrades.
Doubling scarab is really hard to buy at 11 or 12c, and if you buy it with gold is about 20c.... It scarab only eats all your profit per map if it costs 20c or more...
Bro what. I buy them in 40 stacks with chaos at 20 a piece and make 20 divs every time in juice alone. How is 800 chaos for 20 div eating up your profit?
In the video, it was a little over 7 Divines in 20 maps, and at the time of the recording, Divs were less than 160c. Divs jumping up to 180+ actually increases the profit per hour by a fair bit. Yellow Lifeforce has also increased in value since recording. Even if the Doubling Scarab price has... doubled, it's still ~2.6 Div worth of scarabs turning into 7+ Divines worth of juice. That's a very solid margin. Harvest rocks.
I've seen some weird occasions where you can clearly see there is a tier 4 plant in the plot though it doesn't show it on the UI.... not sure what's going on there....
K so ive gotten a few really nice groves but most are giving me nothing at all or maybe 50 life force. Am i doing something wrong or just unlucky? Maybe I wasnt understanding the whole order of which plots you want to click first.
Your goal is to build up a large plant (preferably yellow), so you want to consume all of one color (usually purple), then the rest of the second color (usually blue), then finish with the biggest plant last.
@PathofEvening This helped me out a ton. If they weren't so expensive the ones that grant you imbued crafting are a godsend for giga juicing this. They cost like 100c per scarab though so you need to make like 7-10k yellow a run.
I have pretty much your harvest atlas nodes with blue altar, but im also doing alva nodes (scarab to spawn her) and Jun scarab for slightly extra profits.
ggg needs to fix harvest. when some plots upgrade it wont show at the display, gotta count the seeds or whatever is called. so annoying. when you get a boss you can easly notice the big pimple. also, doing crop rotation without the awakened scarab feels really weird, idk. farmed multiple mirrors last league doing awakened harvest , 20k or more yellow juice for a single map. was insane. gonna try without and see how it goes. blocking yellow and blue felt pretty good last league.
Not sure if it came up in some previous videos, but divine is around 180 this league, both on exchange and on trade site. Unless there is some cheap divine club somewhere xD
thats the most important stat, especially considering that all of those monsters have chance to double. Mob pack says how many mobs you have that drop stacks of juice and quantity says how large those stacks are going to be
@@PathofEvening Thanks alot, really great strat actually when i tested for yellow maps, In fact i just used the harvest scarab with alch only t10 maps and nothing else at all and stilll very profitable, probably had just around 1d worth investement and the return was probably more than 5-6D an hour, Super amazing
What do you do for farming scarabs and keeping up with the demand for 8 mod maps? Just sell what you can that drops to fund scarabs, or atlas passives for scarab drops?
Nobody can sustain their own supply of scarabs no matter the strategy, even if it is just 1 scarab/map, its just not possible to be that consistent with drops.
@@Remindw welllll....almost nobody :d if you do deli orbs for scarab farm you also use deli and e.g. breach or abyss scarabs and you can very well sustain them.
Hey, i try Ur build in this Season and i enjoy it ! But i dont know how do u have Ur rage all the Time ?? I follow Ur pob but i dont know What i miss 🫣 Thx for the vidéo !
Combination of Autoexertion auto-casting warcries, Warcry Mastery granting a minimum of 10 power on all warcries, and Rage mastery granting 1 Rage per 5 power on every Warcry.
@sikssilver9698 the higher quant you can roll on the map the better. Tbh last league was my first league and I started farming for a mageblood with two voidstones. So I ran this strat on corrupted 8-mod tier 15 jungle valleys and had no issues making a profit. You'd probably make your money back on 15's but the higher quantity rolled on the map the more return on investment you get my friend
Since when do you no longer need to kill the boss to get progression on altar invitations? Did I miss something? You would have to kill the boss every map to get the invitation
@PathofEvening you mentioned you would only have to kill the boss in the 28th map to get the invitation or maybe I misunderstood. That's not how it used to work. I wanna Make sure I didn't miss something big because I often do
@@fate7506 That's how it worked since the beginning, people had strats that opened a map, killed one pack of exarch mobs, straight to the boss for the guaranteed map drop and dipped, made invitations worth 1-2 ex back in the days in half hour lol
@kacperNFS I know, I farmed 330 div for a mb with that strat but you are saying I DIDN'T need to kill the boss every single map? Just 1 altar aside from the 28th map?
I've been running the awakened sarab for the extra 50% chance for crops to not wilt and its other perk. But I'm not convinced it's worth it since they're routinely 120c + per map
i really dislike manaforge toxic and wish you had made an endgame build/Setup like last league for toxic rain with jewels and so on. i dont know if i pickup widowhail or coil or actually make rare armor. sad you didnt pick toxic rain on start :D
Hey can you guys maybe make an xp farming guide for this league or bring toxic rain back as next build (remember you saying mana forged arrows is a thing again and as i only have played last league and this i am beyond curious to see how you played it in that form i think the older pob didnt even have diadem which was how we made our mana work last league) so yeah. Bring her back bby but maybe xp video first as i am so clueless on getting my hexblast past 98 without dying of old age
@PathofEvening awesome news. Can't wait for either. Watching whatever yall put out regardless but can't wait for the TR PF update for this league. I remember him sating he may do a strength stacker in another video to which would be almost as awesome. Excited for all future content!
No crop rotation is superior in pretty much every way. This butchers your average gains for a tiny chance to get very lucky.. Which you can still get with non crop rotation. It also slows you down as you have to run around looking at every crop whenever you clear one.
@@evoknz killing the boss first forces all the altars to either be player or mob mods. Since the boss is dead (or doesn’t spawn in the case of JV) you cannot get boss mods on the altars meaning you can force more quant onto your maps. Hope that makes sense
The calculation : Even I use better rate to determin the value of those lifeforce, with 1 div drop(unlikely), 2 White Lifeforce(not even happend), 3 Abom Map. I only got 6 div/hr.
Those are the profits from when we filmed the footage for the video. They will change, constantly. We can't win with titles. If we don't include it people are mad and if we do, people who don't play like us are also mad
Dammit man. It seems like every time I find a strat I am enjoying, you sweep in and put up a guide on exactly that strat. The scarabs were already ridiculously expensive... smh. I was just about to start a Viper Strike of the Mamba build too, but Mathil does a guide (you're the top comment there too) and takes a very cheap build and makes it 10+ times as expensive. So it goes, I guess. Your guides are great btw, but you have to take the feedback. Good and not so good.
Viper strike of the mamba doesnt use any expesive uniques and is still cheap to setup. Also keep in mind that every strategy in existance is already being done and has a video about it the prices might go up for a few days but not forever. If the strat becomes unprofitable then do something else.
@@moonphase6491 Sometimes we all get triggered and need to vent. Mathil said he got a perfect rolled Bino's for 50c. It is now 50 div. Not so cheap to setup eh? Still, mostly you are correct.
@@PathofEvening Sorry dude. I was just chucking a sad and you were on the receiving end. You and your channel are top knoch and I you have helped me (and no doubt many others) far more than you have hurt the community in any way. Please accept my sincere apology. We can all have moments of dickishness from time to time.
I tried 30 t16 maps. No juice. Just the map after slamminh an alt orb. Made about 2div from all of that. The reason for not juicing because I dont have any currency to invest😅. Does juicing really helps that much? If I alch + val it then use red alters and use all the scarabs, will my profit go from 2div to 10+ div? 5x increase?
I see you leaping around and not loosing life and im just like "wtf how do i get there with that helm". Is wear i got so much armor and phys reduction on chest but my 17 percent helm just wrecks me lol. Ill get there one day.
I dont understand why you even want tier 4 at like 28min in the video. You have 11 tier3s, thats a lot more juice than double drop from a t4 unless it also gets shitloads of t3 with it. Also i rarely see crop rotation players clear whole map, its usually zoom to harvest then leave map.
Ive been running crop rotation and expedition for about a week now when i play and i am enjoying it. If my scarabs go up ill cry 😂 I may have missed it but would like to add that you have a chance to get Avian pursuit which is like 100+c. Ive only gotten 4 (3 drops last one doubled from eater altar) but im honestly not super time efficient haha.
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wow, the only farming strategy that really actualy works, tested a lot strategies lately bro, the essences one, which was kinda slow and little profit, the harbingers, rituals, but the only one that actually made money for me is yours , had 6.5 divines profit in an hour bro thats crazy thanks so much finally someone serious with what they post on yt
Glad to help!
im getting 7div an hour with essence
if you look at the yellow plot at 20:00 you can see that two of the plants uppgraded, but the display wont always show it that they did
@@flamekaster3032 yes, he said in the video that it is a "hidden chance" to upgrade after you click it which is ofc wrong. It is a visual bug. If you tp out and in the bug goes away. This has been in the game since crop rotation was introduced
Yup, you right.
@@PathofEvening you dont have to tp out, just exit and enter sacred grove and it will display properly. You have to be careful with that bug as sometimes it might impact the choices you make when choosing which crop you decide to hit. Unfortunately this bug is not ironed out since crop rotation implementation and i choose to exit/enter sacred grove before any meaningful choice to be sure that i see how yellows have upgraded
this strategy has been amazing for me over the past few days ! I've tried various combinations of scarabs -- i've settled on doubling, corruption (for 8 mods), monstrous lineage, hordes, and titanic. titanic being more of a flex spot, sometimes i swap it out for another monstrous lineage or multitude for more maps. I'm running Eater for more quant/qual.
thank you so much for this !
Excellent, glad to help!
Influencing hoards scarab works really well, more altars for more quant
Yeah, that works!
This was a fun strat - i averaged 1.8 divine an hour but also got a nice Voidborn key too worth 3.2 div made 7 divine in 2 hours. Was fun. Ty!
Excellent!
Great work, I really appreciate this video. There is plenty of info for super expensive strats but I simply prefer to do mid investment strats and keep it moving along
Good stuff!
After a week of doing deli mirrors this seems way more enjoyable as you actually use your brain lol, hyped to try this out
excellent
my maths are not the best so i apologize if i am wrong, but if you want to farm yellow plans, you need to pick the Yellow Drought nodes on the Atlas map. Ideally you only want 1 Yellow plant in the grove and you need to reduce the chances of Yellow plants spawning :-)
No, neither of those are correct. Having multiple yellows is fine, it allows you to work on multiple potential end plants and then go with the one that is built up the most instead of just hoping the only yellow plant you have upgrades every time. Additionally, because yellow plants are the least common, taking Vivid Drought increases your chances of getting a zero-yellow Harvest, which is very bad.
Everyone saying otherwise is operating on outdated information from before Patch 3.24, when you could guarantee a yellow plant in every Sacred Grove via Sextant.
This actually pairs perfectly with map farming as harvest only takes 1 scarab slot so just 1 less carto scarab of multitude. Escalation + Corruption + Multitude + Lineage + Doubling makes perfect sense.
Not sure if there be enough points to fit in shrines though which is kinda sad coz who doesn't like to go vroom vroom.
Yup, it works pretty well as an 8-mod map farming option!
There is a reason why for Crop rotation you make less chance to spawn of YELLOW crops. Your main profit is from last crop, so you ned only 1 or 2 plot with yellow juice, and if you disable purpe or blue juice there is higher chance to get 2 double-yellow juice plots that is BAD.
In your own exemple you disable purple juice and get 1 plot of purple crops, now reverse taht situation to gein 1 yellow instead of 1 purple and you will understand what goal actualy is.
There is a difference between Croprotation Atlas (reduce yellow) and non-crop rotation (reduce blue/purple)
He really should have done this, his tree is such a huge mistake.
If you're targeting yellow with crop rotation you want LESS yellow, not more.
So he did ti wrong and still made 10d/hr? lol
@@figa5567 I did this and getting 0 yellows in your map gets quite frustrating tho
@@tras7983 got lucky with random drops, the best farming strategy
@@erfarkrasnobay you will get 0 yellow crop
I'd like to mention that Drawn to Power keystone adds at least one magic pack to shrines so there is nice synergy between this and magic pack scarab. Also sulphite-hoarding monsters are mostly blue mobs from my experience.
Good points
so that scarabs you recommend? may be drop blocking nodes and add Domination map device + shrines nodes + Drawn to power and some scarab change
Love the simple and informative content, you're quickly becoming my favorite POE content creator!
Wow, thanks! We try our best
Nice video, certainly helped a newbie who started playing a couple of weeks ago get some Divines.
Excellent, glad to help!
Amazing video, thank you so much for explaining in detail and showing many examples.
Glad it was helpful!
You vid helped me alot as a new palyer, only played for 2 weeks and was lucky enough to get a mirror from ur t16 8mod guide so thank you! :D
Aye bro, I love llarold and his channel manager to. But God helped you get that mirror drop lmaoo ain't shit he said in any video have to do with that.
Glad to hear it!
We're happy you're so lucky, but Jacob is right haha
If youre doing maps in 4-5 mins, then youre only running 12-15 maps per hour.
Scarabs of doubling are 20-22c; divs are close to 190c.
Actual profit per hour is closer to 6div
The number in the spreadsheet is the number. They take 4mins. Prices change, it's a live economy.
@@PathofEvening that why old people think young people lazy and don't wanna work and they think it easy to do stuff XD They always forget price changes and inflation
Hey Llarold - i absolutely love your content. And your are the first person since 1 or 2 or 3 years who could explain "Crop Rotation" to me
Thanks for watching our content. On the subject of the guide: Maybe but not for a bit. We have an expansion launching for the game on our other channel this Thursday, so only the videos we preplanned are happening until we're done with that game's "league start."
Usually crop rotation is bait for most players. for anyone who finds crop rotation to be confusing its truly not worth it. i found after several 20 map tests of each strategy that crop rotation yields 20% less juice per map on average. However, you do get to target farm yellows. The TLDR is if you are NOT using the awaken imbued crafting scarab then normal harvest is better because you will clear the harvest faster. less thinking etc.. same amount of divs/map profit in the long run ( at current market value) ... its just do you like to gamble cuz let me tell you those juicy 5 crop plots + no wither feels so good, so i don't blame you if you crop rotation. i know i do cuz im an addict and i need to gamble.
Yeah, I did 20 maps with crop rota and got 18 with only 3 plots, and prob 10 with 0 yellow.
We like it and it's good to learn. It gets better but can be punishing for those who don't.
If you want to upgrade strat even further horned scarab of awakening is also good for imbude harvest on map device it gives 40% chance for plots to not wilt ofcourse its another gamble mechanic but it can result in some really juicy outcomes
That does require a somewhat different approach since the chance of not wilting is 60% instead of 10%. It's also a much more expensive setup, so there's more risk involved.
Any update on the Earthshatter builds? I already maxed out your recommended build and dont know how to improve it. Thank you for the videos, I wouldn't know what to do without you XD
We will likely have an update this week
It's a good strat. It is. Don't be fooled by these numbers though. Look at the drops he got. Key, Divine Beauty, Divine Orb, Einhar memory. That alone is like 5divs.You'll realistically be making 6divs and hour. I juiced all my t16 maps with 100%+ quant with tree and scarabs and ran 40 maps in 2 hours. I averaged 6divs an hour. If you have a ridiculously fast build you can make 10div an hour by blasting through an extra 10 maps per hour.
We absolutely cannot win with video titles because, again, this is what WE made. We stated it in the video a few times, too. Maybe you run maps slower than us. Maybe your RNG is worse. We can't guarantee you'll make a specific number of divines - good thing we never did.
Did this strat for 20 maps took me around 1.5 hrs got around 14d worth of loot based on wealthy exile, maybe around 11d? would actually be sellable. around 4.8 div worth of investment, so profit for me is around 6.2 div, got no lucky drops no raw divine valdo's or anything like that yellow lifeforce and abom maps are my most expensive drops
wasn't able to count my last run where i got t4 harvest so maybe closer to 7 div/ 1.5 hrs
Its pretty good for gold tho got around 600k gold i think
Sounds good
Did the strat 2 more times 2nd run 16d in wealthyexile 3rd run 18d. got more lucky in these runs with the plots.
My Brother in Wraeclast - the strategy is to use Horned Scarab of Awakening to get the chance not to wilt at 60%.
If those scarabs were.t so expensive maybe, 140c at the moment
And then you have to make an extra divine in harvest juice per map just to break even, right?
@@diegogarber1 you would be. 8-modded regex map is what.. 10-15c. Duping harvest.. 15? Horned is what, 140? That rounds out to a divine/170c. You can easily walk out of a juiced 4-plot harvest with above 8-9-10+k lifeforce. My pr in a t16 is 14k.
Profits of that are laughable. I just did 30 maps and i made 40c per map, since awakening is so pricey.
@@b0nez_ then you ran them badly, i guess.
I remember spending a divine worth of investment per map on crop rotation, that supposed to be low investment strategy. By using horned scarab of awakening.
Awakening scarabs can be good, but they massively increase the cost of the strategy, and they change the gameplay loop pretty significantly.
ah you are the reason the price of the scarab shot through the roof lmao
Its actually an broken way of easy currency, if you know what to do on market, you dont use it in maps no, it is very profitable based on where you buy it, and where you sell it
Was it us? Crap
Hello, Nice video. What should i pick on the map device? thx
Quant!
most people will just burn their currency if they try to run this, to make it profitable you need to run 10 mod maps (8 from the map, 2 extra from scarabs) with full eater nodes for even more quant, kill the map boss -> clear the entire map for quant altars and then do the grove, where you can get fucked over multiple times and get shit groves with 3 plots for multiple maps in a row, it's not "bad luck" it's just rng and how the game works, you will not get full groves most of the time, also saying that you can run this with 12c/map when just the scarab of doubling is almost 16/17c and going up is funny, harvest is just gambling, especially crop rotation, if you want a stable source of currency just do expedition, it's literally the easiest thing you can do to make money
@@geo7254 expedition is great for making 10c an hour and if you like reading books tbh
how is exp good this late in the league? Genuinely curious
It's kind of a "floor" strategy. Even in the worst-case scenario, Expedition has a pretty decent minimum on the amount of random currency it generates per hour via Tujen, and there's potential to occasionally make big pops of currency in the form of raw Divines from him, good crafted items from Rog, big drops in a Logbook, and so on.
Bottom line: It ain't much, but it's honest work.
Another great video. Any plans to cover Ritual this league? i think you mentioned you didn't like it in your 3 farming strategies video but that was before they nerfed the wildwood damage.
I've been doing rituals and yes, they nerfed the damage but then still send those weird volatile things that can be very hard to see or hear when there's chaos in the map (and will happen at rituals for sure). It's been rippy
Possibly! We have a big launch coming for our other channel so we have a lot of work ahead atm
I've been having problems with the game freezing during rituals
You're going to love our next video...
As the crop rotation works : Its upgrading the diffrent colour of plants - Why would you block the purple plant instead of vivid one? In that case (theoracly speaking?) in the Grove we can have large amount of Vivid and Blue juice and we cant upgrade the vivid one by other vivid plant.Its not better to block vivid juice and morelikely see less vivid plants in Grove and pump only one/two trees with other colours? Thanks as always for the altas tree!
Yellow is the least common plant. By blocking it, you increase the chances of a no-Yellow Sacred Grove, which is worthless. The idea that you need to take Vivid Drought comes from outdated info when players could force Yellow into every Grove with Sextants. Now that you can't, it is bait.
I'm new to mapping. What is scribe a div card onto a map mean. Can we get a laymens step by step on what to do. Alot of what is said in theese is spoken in elite poe talk. Which I am not and don't understand. Only thing I got going for me is I followed a build guide so I'm able to clear up to t9 maps
Please help us uninitiated understand this start so we to can get end game items
It's from the Nameless Seer, a random encounter in maps. It allows you to copy the current map's divination cards onto another map.
This is very helpful in understanding harvest crop rotation as a new player.
I'm wondering, is this a strategy I should change to once I've gotten more map bonuses done? Or I should start this early as I'm around level 88 with 50+ atlas skills.
Thank you 😊
It's definitely something you'll want to work into later on!
@@PathofEvening Thanks man. I like your channel, it's really informative for a noob like me
what do u think of using elder scarab and take top part of atlas tree for more packsize?
moreover it spawn unique portal, so u can also add titanic scarab for bit of gold and unique instead of 2 adversaries scarab that doesnt do much
Having played around with it, that can definitely work for farming gold. It's definitely EASY to kill the big Elder Portals.
Make another video comparing more yellow vs less yellow?
Unless T3 or T4 drop more than the double the life force than than the lesser tier, it's better two have two of lesser tier mods right?
And if spawning more yellow crops still yield 10 div ler hour, with a proper adaptation you make more
T3 drops significantly more than T2.
(yes I'm literally going through all the strategies for the fun of it.) wouldn't it be better efficiency wise to drop one of the meh scarabs for a sacred Grove scarab and then simply put all the points for blocking nodes and sacred Grove chance into something else? Like idk all the maps node, all the maps explicit nodes etcetc. This way you could run a rolled map instead a 8 mods map and have the same efficiency basically. (with the wheel on the top left of tree of maps 85% crafted maps are very similar to 8 mods map)? I think ill try that but I'd like your opinion on it.
That's a decent alternative, sure.
could have shown your quant on maps that you are running though. do you corrupt those maps or just roll them pretty high and leave it?
8 mod corrupted maps, as mentioned in the video
Hey . Is it not worth using the Scarab of cornucopia on this setup ?
No, it does nothing with Crop Rotation.
What's your favorite atlas strategy for earthshatter?
We like farming up t17 maps
8% quant from map device + a 1C sacred grove scarab puts a lot less pressure on the Atlas Tree I feel. Didn't know you can put multiples of the same scarab though im gonna have to try double adversaries and searing exarch. Is Exarch safer than Eater? Cuz i keep getting fucked by eater maps mods
Yup, Exarch is safer than Eater for a lot of builds.
@@PathofEveningsweet to know, also just thought of the scarab of awakening which gives some insane drops. Imbued harvest is +50% chance not to wilt and I think 50% more monsters
if yellow is what you want, don't you want to reduce yellow plots so you get other colors the most so you can juice your 1-2 plots of yellow ?
Nope, that runs the risk of having 0 Yellow plots, since Yellow is the least common crop color. People suggesting otherwise are operating on pre-3.24 information when you could force a Yellow plot via Sextants.
Harvest already takes long enough without crop rotation. 😂 I’m not a fan, but I love harvest. Plus juice isn’t as profitable as it was last few season where yellow juice was like 4000-5000 per divine sometimes even lower. Last time I checked it’s like 10,000 per divine. Great video though!
Just get more DPS
Also, yellow juice is like 7k per div
It’s 4.7 k per divine right now….
@@kyledrake7313 nice! I will make even more profit then with 8 mod maps. Hexblast just ignores most mods
@@kyledrake7313no
Hey there! Why do you take heart of the grove if it doesn't work on this setup? Just for the chance to not wilt?
Yes.
Can someone explain why when i block only yellow plants, it seems to show up more? my last 3 maps i didn't even have any purple. It has been like this all season for me.
Just sounds like RNG.
hey, in the atlas tree, isnt going in the yellow path better since u dont want to end up with double yellow if possible to finish and upgrade the most possible yellow?
Nope. Ending with a double yellow is good, you want options. The goal is to have a max upgraded yellow st the end, not to just have one yellow plot in the grove and hope it upgrades.
What craft did you use for map device? Just the 8% quant?
Yes.
Larold what mtxs have you been using on your build?
Rot shaman
Doubling scarab is really hard to buy at 11 or 12c, and if you buy it with gold is about 20c.... It scarab only eats all your profit per map if it costs 20c or more...
Bro what. I buy them in 40 stacks with chaos at 20 a piece and make 20 divs every time in juice alone. How is 800 chaos for 20 div eating up your profit?
@@jacoblancaster5044 he did 5 maps and got unlucky then went into the comments to say strat doesnt work xdd
@@card425 Don't get me wrong, I didn't even tryed this. I talked about his profit vs chaos costs per map....
In the video, it was a little over 7 Divines in 20 maps, and at the time of the recording, Divs were less than 160c. Divs jumping up to 180+ actually increases the profit per hour by a fair bit. Yellow Lifeforce has also increased in value since recording.
Even if the Doubling Scarab price has... doubled, it's still ~2.6 Div worth of scarabs turning into 7+ Divines worth of juice. That's a very solid margin. Harvest rocks.
@@PathofEvening bro, ty so much for reply me. I'll try this start for sure!
hi i am new to end game mapping whats good map and bad maps to run?
i have everything in T16 now i dont know whats good map or bad maps
Depends on your build, your preference. Dunes and Jungle Valley are the most popular maps.
I've seen some weird occasions where you can clearly see there is a tier 4 plant in the plot though it doesn't show it on the UI.... not sure what's going on there....
Just a visual bug.
whats that ball above your head at the start of the vod?
Gold flask MTX.
K so ive gotten a few really nice groves but most are giving me nothing at all or maybe 50 life force. Am i doing something wrong or just unlucky?
Maybe I wasnt understanding the whole order of which plots you want to click first.
Your goal is to build up a large plant (preferably yellow), so you want to consume all of one color (usually purple), then the rest of the second color (usually blue), then finish with the biggest plant last.
@PathofEvening This helped me out a ton. If they weren't so expensive the ones that grant you imbued crafting are a godsend for giga juicing this. They cost like 100c per scarab though so you need to make like 7-10k yellow a run.
So i have been trying to do that .. but im getting 3 trash pots of plants 2 of them are yellow .. am i doing something wrong or im just unlucky?
Just unlucky!
yeap, just unlucky
I have pretty much your harvest atlas nodes with blue altar, but im also doing alva nodes (scarab to spawn her) and Jun scarab for slightly extra profits.
Cool
Does it make sense to use Horned Scarab of Awakening for imbued harvest for extra juice ? Considering very high price of this scarab
tested it, not quite enough to have a definitive answer, but I was desappointed
It's a really high expense for a gamble strategy. It can pay off, but it's risky.
ggg needs to fix harvest. when some plots upgrade it wont show at the display, gotta count the seeds or whatever is called. so annoying. when you get a boss you can easly notice the big pimple. also, doing crop rotation without the awakened scarab feels really weird, idk. farmed multiple mirrors last league doing awakened harvest , 20k or more yellow juice for a single map. was insane. gonna try without and see how it goes. blocking yellow and blue felt pretty good last league.
Yeah it could use an update
Hey there, is there an easy way to bulk buy 8mod t16 maps? Filtering no-go mods would also be amazing
You can use corruption scarab to get T16 8-modded maps and use some map farming T17 strat.
Use poexchange or tft
DIvines are at least 176c right now and more on the trade house.
Price went up since recording, increased profit per hour!
What map are you running, tier 6 jungle valley?
8-mod t16 JV.
Not sure if it came up in some previous videos, but divine is around 180 this league, both on exchange and on trade site.
Unless there is some cheap divine club somewhere xD
It has gone up in the last day or so
bit of a noob question but does pack size of the map affect anything from harvest?
Yes. It affects the number of monsters in the harvest.
thats the most important stat, especially considering that all of those monsters have chance to double. Mob pack says how many mobs you have that drop stacks of juice and quantity says how large those stacks are going to be
if harvest bosses are fucking me up is it worth doing non crop rotation cornucopia scarab on lower tier maps?
If bosses are jacking you up, you might be better off just doing a cheaper version entirely, non-Crop Rotation, non-Cornucopia.
The scarabs have gotten way too expensive ;_; 50c for the scarab of doubling is just brutal
The market is going to change all the time
Can i follow the same strat but in yellow maps? as my build is not very good rn
You can!
@@PathofEvening Thanks alot, really great strat actually when i tested for yellow maps, In fact i just used the harvest scarab with alch only t10 maps and nothing else at all and stilll very profitable, probably had just around 1d worth investement and the return was probably more than 5-6D an hour, Super amazing
great!
Went 10 maps only 3 had multiple harvest, all others were nearly empty like your 3rd example. is this normal? Or was it bad luck?
Bad luck!
@@PathofEvening I got 1 in 10 Maps with only a 1000 lifeforce. The others where in between 50 and 300
Is there a reason that Heist and Ultimatum aren't blocked as well?
Heist doesn't drop scarabs, Ultimatum has valuable scarabs.
How do you prep the map before going in?
They're corrupted 8-mod maps, so no prep.
Isnt harvest scarab that forces it to spawn only 1c? Why not use it and spend rest of the atlas points somewhere else. 😅
You can if you want.
which map device we use ??
Quant
What do you do for farming scarabs and keeping up with the demand for 8 mod maps? Just sell what you can that drops to fund scarabs, or atlas passives for scarab drops?
Selling lifeforce?
Nobody can sustain their own supply of scarabs no matter the strategy, even if it is just 1 scarab/map, its just not possible to be that consistent with drops.
@@Remindw welllll....almost nobody :d
if you do deli orbs for scarab farm you also use deli and e.g. breach or abyss scarabs and you can very well sustain them.
You can get 20+ 8 mod maps on 1 t17
Both
i swear i was just wondering why we took that passive in the tree this morning and swapped off of it... welp time to go back
Yep sounds good
i scry defiled to dunes and now im not getting any div card drops
Apothecary is a rare card, what do you expect?
Hey, i try Ur build in this Season and i enjoy it ! But i dont know how do u have Ur rage all the Time ?? I follow Ur pob but i dont know What i miss 🫣
Thx for the vidéo !
Combination of Autoexertion auto-casting warcries, Warcry Mastery granting a minimum of 10 power on all warcries, and Rage mastery granting 1 Rage per 5 power on every Warcry.
The tier of maps is affected in harvest ?
Quant and rarity affect Harvest, and those are juiced by eldritch altars and 8-mod maps.
This strat work for T15 / T16 ? Or it's obsolete ? :c
I'm asking because much strat are obsolete really fastly
@sikssilver9698 the higher quant you can roll on the map the better. Tbh last league was my first league and I started farming for a mageblood with two voidstones. So I ran this strat on corrupted 8-mod tier 15 jungle valleys and had no issues making a profit. You'd probably make your money back on 15's but the higher quantity rolled on the map the more return on investment you get my friend
@@jacoblancaster5044 ok thanks x)
let's loot mageblood o/
This is a strategy you will want to run in t16 or t17 maps.
Since when do you no longer need to kill the boss to get progression on altar invitations? Did I miss something? You would have to kill the boss every map to get the invitation
Only have to kill the boss to get the invitation
@PathofEvening you mentioned you would only have to kill the boss in the 28th map to get the invitation or maybe I misunderstood. That's not how it used to work. I wanna Make sure I didn't miss something big because I often do
Yes the 28th map
@@fate7506 That's how it worked since the beginning, people had strats that opened a map, killed one pack of exarch mobs, straight to the boss for the guaranteed map drop and dipped, made invitations worth 1-2 ex back in the days in half hour lol
@kacperNFS I know, I farmed 330 div for a mb with that strat but you are saying I DIDN'T need to kill the boss every single map? Just 1 altar aside from the 28th map?
I've been running the awakened sarab for the extra 50% chance for crops to not wilt and its other perk. But I'm not convinced it's worth it since they're routinely 120c + per map
it definitly is all priced around t17 maps.
It is very expensive and a big gamble for an RNG strategy
why not use scarab of awakening?
imbued harvest
Because that is a full divine more per map
This costs about 700C for enough scarabs to run 20 maps now lol
That's literally the exact amount it cost at the time.
i really dislike manaforge toxic and wish you had made an endgame build/Setup like last league for toxic rain with jewels and so on. i dont know if i pickup widowhail or coil or actually make rare armor. sad you didnt pick toxic rain on start :D
i fear manaforged means i cannot just run any map anymore :D basically im just asking for an ultra endgame Eldritch guide if u have that :/
We made a TR update for this patch. th-cam.com/video/Z7esuAeYb4k/w-d-xo.html
Hey can you guys maybe make an xp farming guide for this league or bring toxic rain back as next build (remember you saying mana forged arrows is a thing again and as i only have played last league and this i am beyond curious to see how you played it in that form i think the older pob didnt even have diadem which was how we made our mana work last league) so yeah. Bring her back bby but maybe xp video first as i am so clueless on getting my hexblast past 98 without dying of old age
Llarold's next char will likely be TR PF. As for exp guide, we're thinking about it, trying some stuff tonight.
@PathofEvening awesome news. Can't wait for either. Watching whatever yall put out regardless but can't wait for the TR PF update for this league. I remember him sating he may do a strength stacker in another video to which would be almost as awesome. Excited for all future content!
Thanks for watching our content
You should change your tree from purple to yellow.
No you shouldn't. Yellow is the least common. It will result in more no-yellow harvests.
@@PathofEvening damn, didnt know that - ty for explaining
I'm doing this strategy, but if I pull 1000 yellow per map it's good, I never had 5k yellow juice. 8mod maps t16, 200+ quant.
RNG!
so crop rotation or not crop rotation ? which one is better for medium investment ( Lineage + Doubling + .... ).
Crop Rotation
No crop rotation is superior in pretty much every way. This butchers your average gains for a tiny chance to get very lucky.. Which you can still get with non crop rotation.
It also slows you down as you have to run around looking at every crop whenever you clear one.
Has anyone figured out the math if horned scarab of awakening is worth it on average? The 60% chance not to wild is pretty nuts.
@@MTG_Viking it works especially well if your build can handle a lot of blue altars, and or t17 especially
Yup, pretty much that. It's a much more risky strat, but it can pay off in a huge way.
thx for the scarab setup :)
Welcome
Can someone explain to me why it requires a map where u can rush boss quickly ? I farm Toxic Sewers usually, will it work also ?
More Player mods on Eldritch Altars for Quantmaxxing.
Sewers can still work.
@@PathofEvening Ok so it's not killing the boss that matters its clearing the map right
@@evoknz killing the boss first forces all the altars to either be player or mob mods. Since the boss is dead (or doesn’t spawn in the case of JV) you cannot get boss mods on the altars meaning you can force more quant onto your maps. Hope that makes sense
Zippy gets it
@@zippy6219 Oooh didnt know about that, never noticed, ty
The true profit is about 50% of what you claim, it's 5 div/hr.
The calculation : Even I use better rate to determin the value of those lifeforce, with 1 div drop(unlikely), 2 White Lifeforce(not even happend), 3 Abom Map. I only got 6 div/hr.
Those are the profits from when we filmed the footage for the video. They will change, constantly. We can't win with titles. If we don't include it people are mad and if we do, people who don't play like us are also mad
It’s worse now. Doubling scarab is 20c now.
Doubling scarab is double the price now lmao
Still profitable even at that price.
@@PathofEvening 20c per map is technically "profit" just shit tier. T17 are fucking everything up.
Dammit man. It seems like every time I find a strat I am enjoying, you sweep in and put up a guide on exactly that strat. The scarabs were already ridiculously expensive... smh.
I was just about to start a Viper Strike of the Mamba build too, but Mathil does a guide (you're the top comment there too) and takes a very cheap build and makes it 10+ times as expensive.
So it goes, I guess. Your guides are great btw, but you have to take the feedback. Good and not so good.
Viper strike of the mamba doesnt use any expesive uniques and is still cheap to setup. Also keep in mind that every strategy in existance is already being done and has a video about it the prices might go up for a few days but not forever. If the strat becomes unprofitable then do something else.
@@moonphase6491 Sometimes we all get triggered and need to vent. Mathil said he got a perfect rolled Bino's for 50c. It is now 50 div. Not so cheap to setup eh?
Still, mostly you are correct.
Ok
@@PathofEvening Sorry dude. I was just chucking a sad and you were on the receiving end. You and your channel are top knoch and I you have helped me (and no doubt many others) far more than you have hurt the community in any way.
Please accept my sincere apology. We can all have moments of dickishness from time to time.
No worries, this was tame compared to some
how do i search for 8 mod maps on trade
There are several third-party services where players do bulk sales.
I tried 30 t16 maps. No juice. Just the map after slamminh an alt orb. Made about 2div from all of that.
The reason for not juicing because I dont have any currency to invest😅.
Does juicing really helps that much? If I alch + val it then use red alters and use all the scarabs, will my profit go from 2div to 10+ div? 5x increase?
Yes
I see you leaping around and not loosing life and im just like "wtf how do i get there with that helm". Is wear i got so much armor and phys reduction on chest but my 17 percent helm just wrecks me lol. Ill get there one day.
Craft Travel skills cannot be exerted on neck or belt
I dont understand why you even want tier 4 at like 28min in the video. You have 11 tier3s, thats a lot more juice than double drop from a t4 unless it also gets shitloads of t3 with it. Also i rarely see crop rotation players clear whole map, its usually zoom to harvest then leave map.
T4's pretty much always come with lots of T3's.
Why red altar and not blue altar ?
Build
after this vid divide the profit by 2 or maybe 3.
We'll take that compliment
no atlas passive planner? :(
It's in the currency spreadsheet
GoodJob!
Thanks!
can't let the boys know im juicing dudes
It'll be our secret
Ive been running crop rotation and expedition for about a week now when i play and i am enjoying it. If my scarabs go up ill cry 😂
I may have missed it but would like to add that you have a chance to get Avian pursuit which is like 100+c. Ive only gotten 4 (3 drops last one doubled from eater altar) but im honestly not super time efficient haha.
Good call on the Avian Pursuit card!
Same and the scarabs of doubling has doubled in price roughly :(
sure that random divine drop is very reasonable xd
Yep
How about doing this on T17 maps?
We tried it yesterday and it didn't seem worth
@@PathofEvening thought the insane quant might even it out