ALPINE A110 - A TRUE PORSCHE RIVAL?
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In this video I share with you my opinions on the Alpine A110, a car I've been wanting to drive since it came out in 2018. Big thanks to Alpine UK for letting me drive their A110 S demonstrator and being very helpful when it came to filming on what was a busy day for them. The event was 'SMMT Drive Day' which brings all manufacturers together (who want to attend) and allows guests to drive pretty much anything. Time slots are limited so filming is tricky especially if you filmed 4 cars in one day like I did (Alpine A110 S, Golf 8 R Estate, new Polo GTI and Seat UK Heritage Fleet Cupra 280 Ultimate Sub - videos coming soon)
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Sport mode makes a world of difference - throttle is sharper, engine is louder, steering is tighter and more direct. A shame you didn't get to try but appreciate your limited time to review!
Gordon Murray's daily, speaks volumes.
Next time You test an A110 on a track , try the sport button or even the track setting !
One of those things that a 15 minute test doesn't allow you to do. The hill course is more of a road than a track but I'd love to try one on a track one day
Imagine if you had put her in Sport mode or Track mode !!!!
It's more like a road than a track but it would have been nice to investigate modes but with 30 min sessions designed from print media jounros not TH-camrs, you have to compromise somewhere.
@@volkswizard I get that but TBH I drive in Track mode whenever I’m pushing wether it’s on a mountain road or a racetrack. It’s help the chassis become even more alive as it lets you play with the rear.
@@samszulman7851 Yeah he definitely missed the most important button on the whole car... you know the one; the big red one right on the steering wheel with the word 'sport' written on it. 🤣
@@SpencerPlanton Actually I much prefer Track mode as in Sport mode, the car keeps changing gears when I don't want it to but in Track mode it's all up to you.
@@samszulman7851 The only 'issue' with that is the traction control is switched off in race. If you can handle it being off then great. I use Track mode a lot but it is not for everyone. Race is the 'safe' option for most.
Mine should be in the country now (just about) - went for standard model with the more compliant ride….makes the most of the light weight for British roads, I think! The depreciation on Alpine is glacial, not what you’d expect from a French car. The used 2/3 year old ones you showed were from a time when the A110 started at £46ish k for the base model and the S was mid 50s. Not sure you can compare those used examples with todays list prices and say they depreciate. Most of the motoring press I’ve read suggest the depreciation rate is equivalent/lower than Porsche! So to my mind, a new one to my spec made most sense.
Great choice....I am quite envious. It would be my choice too!
@@johnmull59 Took me two years to decide 🤣
Yes, think the Premier editions are only about £8k down since 2018, cheaper than owning a fiesta. I’ve driven original S model at Thruxton and enjoyed it, just need to sort a real life test of a base as that’s what I think suits more, though the options I want takes it to £59k, better apr than Porsche though so it still on the list 🤔 Going to wait for reviews of the base Emira before deciding, got until summer 23 so hopefully not nuked beforehand
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Nice one Ian, thanks for the info. Base model is £50k now so not that different to the £46k base. I’m sure on average, depreciation is better than Porsche but I see only GTS as a rival due to base & even S model Boxster Cayman being too common and their deprecation is even less that A110’s! Great car, enjoy yours
what's that mousetrap in the foot well?
Great first time drive review Andrew ! In Australia only 110 were ever imported( no more coming - due to no side airbag requirements) I have one of the last 4 . It replaced my Mk3 Audi TT. I must admit I find myself taking the long way home from the office. It took me quite a while to warm to it. As a serial GTI owner too, I wonder if I have become a bit soft to a German car fit, finish and comfort/quality . Where my love affair with the TT lasted 6 years I really don’t know if my time with the A110 will be long or short. Support here is minimal. And I have had issues arise with poor/limited support to date . You constantly get asked what is it. It’s exclusive ,however flys under the radar nicely, many non car people prob think its a nice Toyota 86 :) . Love your reviews Andrew - keep up the good work - cheers from Brisbane
Wow! This video is really popular in Aus which is crazy considering you got just 110 cars! Great to hear owners' perspective, especially a previous Mk3 TT owner so thanks and enjoy your time with the A110, long or short ;)
Totally different philosophy to Boxster/Cayman. This thing is even lighter than an Exige. Hence why the seats are as they are - it is all about lightness. The gearing ratios are very well judged - unlike a Boxster/Cayman. I’ve had 2 981s but on British roads these feel much more agile and fun. Not sure why anybody would ever buy a 718 over one of these but many people can’t see past the Porsche badge.
There have been MANY comparisons of Alpine and Boxster/Cayman. Expect there to be many comparisons of them with new Lotus Emira. It might be a different philosophy but exploring that is the key to a review as it allows potential buyers to decide which philosophy they prefer as on face value the cars are very similar. I love the idea of light weight/flimsier materials to enhance performance but I'd expect the car to be cheaper than its "hewn from granite" Teutonic rivals as performance isn't everything in the real world. If you work on the basis of performance is everything you will have a very small market which could well be Alpine's problem.
Loving that Alpine! GT for me with the Focal soundsystem though (their home hifi gear is 👌) though (if I had the cash & space for a weekend car, that is)... I just want to say "Alpine" though, rather than "Alpeen"🤣🤣.
Nice review though, great content 👏👏
Well, since Alpine was also the name of a Chrysler-Rootes group (and later PSA group) British car model, the difference in pronunciation is helpful for disambiguation.
@@chucku00 I'm not complaining about the pronunciation of "Alpine", just saying I have to think before I say it. I remember the old Chrysler/, Talbot Alpine - my folks had the smaller model (Sunbeam) when I was a kid!
@@andrewmcivor42 Yup, the car (Sunbeam Lotus) that allowed Talbot to win the WRC car manufacturer championship with the help of Jean Todt as a co-pilot before he built Peugeot-Talbot sport. A fun and cute little car, later replaced by Talbot's Peugeot 104 iteration (Talbot Samba).
I wasn't saying you were complaining, I was just pointing a fact you already knew but some other people who are reading the comment don't necessary know about it.
BTW, I have no problem with people saying "Alpine" with the English pronounciation, but my frog ears are bleeding when Americans try to say "Peugeot" or "Panhard"... ; )
Enjoyed the review Andrew. Even Lotus don't build cars this light anymore so it's good that someone does. 👍
Great video. I absolutely love them, so glad Renault brought them back, love them all really, from the A110 to the A610. Spent many evening in A610 back in France.
Ahh the A610, the wedgey one? I always remember the one Marcus Tandy had in Eldorado, as a car crazy kid I was surprised it was model I didn't know about. Almost as good product placement as RS6 in Layer Cake!
@@volkswizard yeah wedge one, latest one they did before the A110 revival. The A310 was a bit wedgy too, think my favourite shape of them all, got a slight rally vibe to it :)
there are loads of them round here....
Great video, thanks Andrew.
Glad you enjoyed it Bill!
Love to see an in depth review - I’m biased admittedly but love this car - great overview Andrew and great contrast to your GTS - so close to 40K subs too 🥳🥳🚀
Power to weight eh...the French have always played that card so well...but it works🤣nice video...much thanks
You're welcome Simon, thanks for watching😊
That engine sounds great for a four cylinder.
It does Alex, rorty old school sports car, love it!
Looks like a lot of hard shiny plastics for you £50k+ price tag.
Agree
I can only think the French do not understand decent interior material quality and use the same plastics regardless of price point. I haven't seen the new Clio yet but I've been told the interior now rivals VW's so on this basis it's better than the A110, surely not?
It’s almost entirely aluminium construction - that’s where the money goes, the stuff you don’t see
I think style wise some might argue it's a bit of a marmite car.
I get that, it's a challenging design especially rear end but it largely works.
🤔And the SPORT MODE???🤦♂️
He cant handle the sport mode !
The rear spoiler is rubbish.
Agree. Reminds me of those cheap after market spoilers from the 90s the boyhood racers put on their cheap Japanese cars.
I presume they are trying to go a bit GT4 but when Porsche do it, it's convincing as the car from end to end is cohesive to this racetrack refugee look.
@@volkswizard what's the price of a GT4 ?
At least Porsche give a choice on dual clutch or manual. Just don't think it suits a car like the A110, plus it would be a heavier box.
Alpine say with all the clutch pedal assembly and ancillary bits and bobs, the DCT is marginally lighter….
No longer available down under. It fell foul of an Australian Design Rule for side impact protection. It was over A$110k. The GTR from Nissan also has gone. Last jade green 30 odd cars sold at over $280k now asking $500k to $1million at Auction. Go figure.
I love Australia but your restrictions on cars is almost as bad as US! Thanks for commenting from down under 👍👍
@@volkswizard I agree. I have memories of dad driving the Morris 1100 and a corsair that rustedbits floor out. This was in 1960s UK. No seatbelts humpback bridge. Now we are very restricted like never before. Low speed limits huge fines. I was last in the UK in 1983. Cheers Andrew. Love your videos.
No comparison to a boxster
Cayman is the true rival but a lot of things cross over
Brilliant car. Incompetent porscheophile.
.... but it's still a Renault at heart. Take the Porsche any time 🙂
Hmm that is one obstacle they will struggle to overcome!
Lovely car, but more in the Alfa Romeo pretty and slightly unique car league rather than the solid and quality league of Porsche. I think the Alpine is quite overpriced for what it is, even as used values. Inside whilst quite glamorous, on closer inspection it does look a bit tinny and plasticy, especially with those Halford's door speakers and switches and controls. Brand new it should be around £45k.
The base model with some chosen extras at just over £50k is probably the way to go especially with some discount. S and GT are presumably higher profit margin cars and subject to the law of diminishing returns.
Horrible. Bolt on Halfords rear spoiler. Looks like a Toyota GT86. I'd only buy one if i was a lottery winning eccentric Frenchman who wanted something different and didn't care if it broke down on his way to the Boulangerie.
The whole world is happy to learn about Mr Edmonds valued opinion! Maybe have some respect about someone elses opininion ? If I have nothing productive to say I hold my breath !
A comment of nameless nonsense👎stupid french car bashing!!!
As good as that car is just looks horrible 👍🇦🇺
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess Lee 😎 The first Cayman was a bit iffy and I think A110 looks better than that but maybe that's just me
@@volkswizard great looking car, the Alpine A110 is fantastic !