I have a tti. While I think the ARC is cool as hell, and love the magnacut blade, I just don't feel overall that it offers much more than the tti does at that price point. I couldn't justify picking one up. My vote is for the tti.
I have the charge tti shown in the video and will be getting an arc too. The charge “crimper” I’ve used a ton over the years actually in my RC truck hobby. Holds shock shafts and more. I wish the charge and arc could mix and match tools. Who the heck let them put out a file with a hole in it! Haha. The diamond side is great for knife edge maintenance and fingernails I suppose.
TTI for me. I like the tools more including the knife design, wire cutters and serrated blade with the hook cutter, I like the Titanium tool with the S30V better, I use mine every day and won't be ditching it that's for sure. If the new one was better, I would get it, but it's not an upgrade for me, it's a downgrade.
The cutting hook and the smaller more “pocketable” size of the Tti along with the better price is what does it for me. Also the immediately outside accessible blades, file and saw are really handy
Just ordered my arc last night however, I was doing a bunch of reviews and the one thing that really turns me off is how flexible the arc is when you’re squeezing the pliers and when you’re pulling the handles left and right from each other, I hate having flimsy tools! But I also hear that it’s something not to worry about…
Great video I don’t have either but if I could I would wish the arc had some measurements on it as well as a standard 1/4 bit driver. I would have been on that in an instant Such a hard choice from the looks of both multi tools. I also like how the arc pocket clip seems not to wiggle around like how it does on the wave/surge/charge
Thanks so much for this. I have an old Charge TTI without the replaceable wire cutter blades. Looking to upgrade. I would go with the Arc if it had the serrated blade and gut hook. That gut hook is my #3 used tool (amazing for opening stuff).
Was going to add the arc to my collection but I'm thinking my charge tti is better. I'll have to find an arc I could play with but this video lowered my expectations....
The gut hook on the tti is a tool I didn’t know I needed in my life till I had one. If the arc had one maybe I get get it but atm I can’t give that up.
Looks like no clear winner. I like that the ARC is a little lighter. I love the fast deployable blade with the thumb stud which improves it in the area of a defensive blade. Love the bigger Scissor. The cons are that there is no secondary blade and the awe dont make up for it. The serrate blade would come in handy for cutting a seatbeat in an emergency. No ruler which Ive used before. S30V is a good steel but I am not sure about a Magnacut.
The weight difference isn't enough to compel me to buy off on the Arc. The entire reason that I sought out your video (and now subscribed) was to see the weight difference measured. There are clear differences between the two, and albeit I like the one-handed functions of the Free series, the magnets are another no-go for me, especially since I mostly use my file on metal.
It is said that it is better for the magnet to attract the metal vs the shavings getting into other moving parts . And some fab shop folks echoed that point, saying the magnets are a non issue.
For me personally I don't like the "Free" tech on Leathermans. I had a Free P2 and didn't like it because it felt almost like a butterfly knife that was snappy opening the pliers. Arc would be great if you needed to switch between the tools frequently. The Charge wins for me because I like a more comfortable feel when using a tool rather than being able to access it faster.
it does and it will prop jam the mechanism. also magnets arent permanent, strong impacts and other magnets can degrade or even demagnetice the magnets.
What’s the difference between magnacut and s30v. And 420hc. Isn’t a softer steel better for corrosion resistance and tougher and can be sharpened in the field. I thought harder steels were brittle
Knifenerds has numbers to compare the two. S30v holds a blade longer and better corrosion resistance. 420 hc I think is less brittle, less likely to fracture
S30v has great edge retention, so has magnacut. The difference between Magnacut is that it essentially has two protective layers against corrosion and that it sits in between the S30v and 420hc in terms of how easy it is to sharpen. Lots of folk like magnacut because it has a lot of "best of both worlds" with other steel types for knives. Does it matter for most people? No not really. 420hc is standard for a reason. It's affordable and does the job well enough for 90% of the use cases.
@@annekedebruyn7797 thanks for your reply. I’m just an sak user, I find them to be tough corrosion resistant and easy to sharpen, I think 🤔 vic steel is perfect. That’s the reason in my opinion lots of the worlds military’s use them . A general purpose pocket knife, has to be just that . I don’t want something that will chip or snap and rust.
All three steels are stainless, S30V hold an edge very long but isn't really tough, whereas Magnacut is very tough and still holds a good edge. 420 is tough but doesn't hold an edge well.
Greetings from Pretoria. There's no solid reason to swop the Charge Ti for the Arc. I have a non Ti Charge+. I like the serrated blade and ruler - you can measure your todger, whilst '3 sheets to the wind'. Which, let's face it, is essential. Also, the blade shape is purdier.. I just have to use my Spyderco sharpener a tad more frequently than if I had the Arc. That's OK. If you're new into it, fine. Otherwise, don't bother to swop out.
If someone want to give me and I have the option to choose between those two, I'll take the Arc. But if I have to buy it myself, I'll spend my cash for the Charge TTi.
I have that same concern. But there are magnets everywhere already…. Like the really strong one on the back of my phone. Best to get a watch with anti magnet properties.
i was so hardly exicted when i heard that a new tool will come. but it realy sucks. the price is also shity. i am very disapointed by leatherman and will stay with my charge+ tti. no gos on the arc: thumb stud, no gut hook knive, pocket clip can only be removed with a screwdriver. what i like is that the tools are accessible from the outside and the magnacut blade. but thats no reason to buy it for. especialy not for over 300 €uros!
@ 14:21 the arcs pivot screws cross the lines, makes it look like a poorly thought out school project. I don’t see why magnacut steel is such a big who hah, some Victorinox knives with a good basic stainless steel are still in use from the 60’s and before. It’s just not worth the extra cost, it’s just for bragging rights, a pretty lame brag when Victorinox’s have literally given a lifetime of use to owners.
@@monkpato but it doesn’t go dull almost immediately, strop regularly, I haven’t had to sharpen my Sak in 2 years , I don’t cut cardboard with it I use a utility blade for that, rope I use serrated blade. I really don’t have to sharpen often at all.
I have a tti. While I think the ARC is cool as hell, and love the magnacut blade, I just don't feel overall that it offers much more than the tti does at that price point. I couldn't justify picking one up. My vote is for the tti.
Great review. Thanks
TTI still king!
The serrated hook is a must for me. Very difficult to decide as each has its own pro/cons. Its neither this or that for me. Both ;-)
I have the charge tti shown in the video and will be getting an arc too. The charge “crimper” I’ve used a ton over the years actually in my RC truck hobby. Holds shock shafts and more. I wish the charge and arc could mix and match tools. Who the heck let them put out a file with a hole in it! Haha. The diamond side is great for knife edge maintenance and fingernails I suppose.
TTI for me. I like the tools more including the knife design, wire cutters and serrated blade with the hook cutter, I like the Titanium tool with the S30V better, I use mine every day and won't be ditching it that's for sure. If the new one was better, I would get it, but it's not an upgrade for me, it's a downgrade.
The cutting hook and the smaller more “pocketable” size of the Tti along with the better price is what does it for me.
Also the immediately outside accessible blades, file and saw are really handy
Yep 100%
Thank you great video
Your welcome. Glad people are enjoying
Just ordered my arc last night however, I was doing a bunch of reviews and the one thing that really turns me off is how flexible the arc is when you’re squeezing the pliers and when you’re pulling the handles left and right from each other, I hate having flimsy tools! But I also hear that it’s something not to worry about…
Great video
I don’t have either but if I could I would wish the arc had some measurements on it as well as a standard 1/4 bit driver. I would have been on that in an instant
Such a hard choice from the looks of both multi tools. I also like how the arc pocket clip seems not to wiggle around like how it does on the wave/surge/charge
Thanks so much for this. I have an old Charge TTI without the replaceable wire cutter blades. Looking to upgrade. I would go with the Arc if it had the serrated blade and gut hook. That gut hook is my #3 used tool (amazing for opening stuff).
No problem! I love the gut hook!
❤ very nice they are both on my top shopping list must have for my collection 😘😁
Awesome tools 😎
I like both a lot. Prefer the Magnacut steel. So, prefer the ARC. Nice review, thanks.
Thanks for your new video, I have the same opinion as you, Titanium makes me feel different touch in the hands, and I love it.
For sure!
Спасибо за обзор! TTI мне нравится больше
Was going to add the arc to my collection but I'm thinking my charge tti is better. I'll have to find an arc I could play with but this video lowered my expectations....
Love the review, also you sound like Billy Madison
Lmao never heard that one before. Thanks
The gut hook on the tti is a tool I didn’t know I needed in my life till I had one.
If the arc had one maybe I get get it but atm I can’t give that up.
Благодарю 🙏
I'd still go with the Charge until the gap in the Arcs hard wire cutters have been fixed and that awful loose bit holder, that should be solid imo
Looks like no clear winner. I like that the ARC is a little lighter. I love the fast deployable blade with the thumb stud which improves it in the area of a defensive blade. Love the bigger Scissor. The cons are that there is no secondary blade and the awe dont make up for it. The serrate blade would come in handy for cutting a seatbeat in an emergency. No ruler which Ive used before. S30V is a good steel but I am not sure about a Magnacut.
S30V is a premium steel; Magnacut is super premium...maybe overkill actually.
S30V should hold an edge longer but Magnacut is tougher. Both are as stainless as you could need.
Have you used the guthook on plastic packaging since there are other models with a package opener.
I have not yet
I like the way my TTI feels in my hand, it’s more comfortable than the wave to me. I’m still going to get the ARC though!
Nice bro. Hope you like
The weight difference isn't enough to compel me to buy off on the Arc. The entire reason that I sought out your video (and now subscribed) was to see the weight difference measured. There are clear differences between the two, and albeit I like the one-handed functions of the Free series, the magnets are another no-go for me, especially since I mostly use my file on metal.
I’m glad I helped your decision. Glad I bought the scale too (not perfect) but it will do. Thanks again!
The Diamond file is a head-scratcher, but I’m sure people asked for it…
It is said that it is better for the magnet to attract the metal vs the shavings getting into other moving parts . And some fab shop folks echoed that point, saying the magnets are a non issue.
Did your TTI come with replaceable cutters? Mine didn’t I had to buy a different event plier head and swap it out.
For me personally I don't like the "Free" tech on Leathermans. I had a Free P2 and didn't like it because it felt almost like a butterfly knife that was snappy opening the pliers. Arc would be great if you needed to switch between the tools frequently. The Charge wins for me because I like a more comfortable feel when using a tool rather than being able to access it faster.
I have the tti. I just cant justify losing the serrated blade for magnacut. Ill wait for modular multitools to improve
I read that the Arc has magnets. If you're filing metal. Would the debris stick to the tool?
If that's the case, I bet it would. That'd be a deal breaker for some.
it does and it will prop jam the mechanism. also magnets arent permanent, strong impacts and other magnets can degrade or even demagnetice the magnets.
does the arc has brass washer for the main tools? my TTI feels like butter when in use.
That a good question. I’d have to look next time
I still have my leatherman Blast, I got from the Army 15 years ago lol
Nice. One I don’t own.
What’s the difference between magnacut and s30v. And 420hc. Isn’t a softer steel better for corrosion resistance and tougher and can be sharpened in the field. I thought harder steels were brittle
Knifenerds has numbers to compare the two. S30v holds a blade longer and better corrosion resistance. 420 hc I think is less brittle, less likely to fracture
S30v has great edge retention, so has magnacut.
The difference between Magnacut is that it essentially has two protective layers against corrosion and that it sits in between the S30v and 420hc in terms of how easy it is to sharpen.
Lots of folk like magnacut because it has a lot of "best of both worlds" with other steel types for knives.
Does it matter for most people? No not really. 420hc is standard for a reason. It's affordable and does the job well enough for 90% of the use cases.
@@annekedebruyn7797 thanks for your reply. I’m just an sak user, I find them to be tough corrosion resistant and easy to sharpen, I think 🤔 vic steel is perfect. That’s the reason in my opinion lots of the worlds military’s use them . A general purpose pocket knife, has to be just that . I don’t want something that will chip or snap and rust.
All three steels are stainless, S30V hold an edge very long but isn't really tough, whereas Magnacut is very tough and still holds a good edge. 420 is tough but doesn't hold an edge well.
Leatherman should put the Tshank blade switcher on all their tools , not just the Surge .
I agree. I love it.
Surge is King
Is the black on the Arc black oxide finished, PVD, something else?
Thanks!
I believe it’s black oxide but not 100% sure.
@@appleztooranges Thanks for the response! Please do an update if you ever find out for sure. 👍🏻
@@xderiwx will do
Yes it is.
Greetings from Pretoria.
There's no solid reason to swop the Charge Ti for the Arc. I have a non Ti Charge+. I like the serrated blade and ruler - you can measure your todger, whilst '3 sheets to the wind'. Which, let's face it, is essential. Also, the blade shape is purdier..
I just have to use my Spyderco sharpener a tad more frequently than if I had the Arc. That's OK.
If you're new into it, fine. Otherwise, don't bother to swop out.
Bit adapter on Arc looks thin and weak
I want one of each model that LM mskes
**Leatherman Arc vs Leatherman TTI Charge. Which Premium multitool is better?
Charge tti
ARC. I just love having all outside accessible tools. Makes life much easier when up on a ladder.
Bought both lol
Tti has more useful tools for me. Handle ergonomics work better for me. Arc is a good bit of kit. Horses for Courses
I just ordered the ARC and am now regretting it. Will probably return and order the TTI.
What’s wrong
Whats your reason behind it? For me still undecided which one to buy but leaning more on TTI.
It was the cost. Once I got the thing and started using it, things changed.. I kept it and use it every day. Absolutely love it!
If someone want to give me and I have the option to choose between those two, I'll take the Arc. But if I have to buy it myself, I'll spend my cash for the Charge TTi.
Yeah the arc is pretty expensive. No lie
Worried the magnet will fuck with my watch.
Hah it could
I have that same concern. But there are magnets everywhere already…. Like the really strong one on the back of my phone. Best to get a watch with anti magnet properties.
Way overpriced it’s for gullible fools with to much money
What's the point with the hole in the file? It's not like its not grippy enough
To easily access it one handed
There’s no drop point or tanto in this video. That’s a sheepsfoot and closer to a clip point. That was painful to hear lol
Glad you enjoyed
i was so hardly exicted when i heard that a new tool will come. but it realy sucks. the price is also shity. i am very disapointed by leatherman and will stay with my charge+ tti.
no gos on the arc: thumb stud, no gut hook knive, pocket clip can only be removed with a screwdriver.
what i like is that the tools are accessible from the outside and the magnacut blade. but thats no reason to buy it for. especialy not for over 300 €uros!
Yeah it is expensive. Yikes 😬
@ 14:21 the arcs pivot screws cross the lines, makes it look like a poorly thought out school project. I don’t see why magnacut steel is such a big who hah, some Victorinox knives with a good basic stainless steel are still in use from the 60’s and before. It’s just not worth the extra cost, it’s just for bragging rights, a pretty lame brag when Victorinox’s have literally given a lifetime of use to owners.
100%. I actually did a comparison between the arc vs the victorinox
If you're fine with your knives going dull almost immediately...
@@monkpato but it doesn’t go dull almost immediately, strop regularly, I haven’t had to sharpen my Sak in 2 years , I don’t cut cardboard with it I use a utility blade for that, rope I use serrated blade. I really don’t have to sharpen often at all.
@@MrDkgio I don't know, mine goes dull pretty quickly and I don't abuse it.
The wire crimpers on the tti are in the same place as the arc. You were calling something else wire crimpers