Yesterday, I found Minecraft Hosting that $96 monthly for 32 GB of RAM with 10GB SSD. (There are Cloud company offer 1TB SSD with 32 GB RAM and AMD CPU for just $90 monthly! so $96 monthly for just 32GB RAM & 10GB SSD are crazy expensive) I won't mention to their names, but Yes! some company doing a scam. Mostly Minecraft Hosting Products are overpriced, I think this is because their target customers are kids. Because most kids have no knowledge to setup Minecraft Server with VPS or in local machine to publish to internet. Kids mostly didn't know Fair Price for that spec and service. When I was kid I was same. so yeah. simple answer. DO not buy Minecraft Hosting.
@@Fonkemonke Yes, so I am using my local server instead. My internet is slow, so I'll need to consider buying VPS. but I'll definitely not use “Minecraft Hosting Product”, instead I will find for trustable VPS or Dedicated.
Even that is way too expensive. For Europe for example you could get a Server from Hetzner that would cost up to 34€ per month (prices calculated per hour). The specs are: CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 RAM: 64 GB Storage: 2 x 512 GB SSD
I've been hosting minecraft servers myself since 2011. A friend of mine had a host at creeper host and even a Intel core 2 duo E4300 was FASTER then the host he used. Then later I was a member of the admin team for Xisuma and The hermitcraft server. The trouble was with Hermitcraft is that it used one of those hosting companies with the same problem and a lot of lag. then they decided to do the same infrastructure as we have for Xisuma's patreon servers, which is get a dedicated box, set it up yourself but this requires Linux knowledge. and this was a day and night difference for the Hermits. The big gotcha with those """Server hosts""" is that they give you shared CPU cores from a badly performing xeon cpu with alot of cores, and you share cores with other people, so if a person is also making a lagg machine on their server, it even might lagg out your server as well, if they didnt configure CPU pinning (most dont) correctly.
Most likely not. AWS has big egress pricing. Most hosting providers are just renting servers (VPS or dedicated) at datacenters for dirt-cheap price and wrap their UI + backend logic around it to spin up new minecraft servers inside these servers. They then charge like 500% markup for this. I mean it makes sense for not experienced people who just want server to play with friends, but you can just rent server from Hetzner for example for a few euros and have powerful minecraft server for a lot less $$.
I don't think so. Usually MC hosters need dedicated servers to get the best performance per core. Good hosters use gaming hardware like Ryzens and Intel Core, as that is the most optimal for a Minecraft server. You can't really run a Minecraft server on a weak core. I have experienced that, when I bought a VPS and instead of getting Intel or AMD machine, I got ARM cores. The weakest cores you can get in bulk. They are comparable to what you get in cheaper phones. It was pathetic. I could overload my server, myself, easily. If your hosting provider has Epyc or Xeon, it's most likely not even worth using them, let alone reselling VPS providers. However, it is normal for hosting providers to use OVH or other colocation or dedicated server hostings and resell that. It's the most optimal way, if they can't get your own datacenter.
Most hosts own the equipment. Hosts that do that are called summer hosts. They start for a few months and just disappear. If a host does not advertise they own their equipment it might be a scam.
I've always thought this, but I never had any platform to voice it. I see servers like 0.5GB RAM 2GB world file $8/month what??? like what the hell?! I'd rather run it on a Dell Optiplex and do some file managing over a week of fixing bugs and issues and downloading patches myself every few days
@@LisooYT dedicated to your server, like... 2GB RAM is all you REALLY need for like a 5 person server if only 2-3 of you will be online at a time, but 0.5GB?!?!
I mean a Virtual Private Server (which most MC hosting is) is expensive to begin with. You are paying for 24/7 internet access and support with some redundancy. Ideally anyways. VPS providers give those services, MC hosts don't necessarily do though
If they have enough cash to sponsor people, they are clearly well off and profit well off their customers. If they didn't, they wouldn't advertise themselfs!
if you're in the community, this has been around for ages. Many hosts legit come by a certain month and die within a few, we even call them "summerhosts" The ones which do run without dying often, yeah they play these tricks. It didn't take me long enough but I legit started handing off free ways to host servers for random people online (risky, but I think it's good experience even if I get haxxored) just so they can avoid their one sale with a dumb hosting company
As a server owner myself, I can tell you that this is why self hosting is the best option for minecraft servers (if you are not hosting a large network). You get all the ports and full control of the hardware. If you have a decent enough pc or even a laptop and understand Linux, you can host a minecraft server long term. Most computers come with 16GB of ram, a modest amount of storage, and a decent enough CPU. All you would really need beyond that is good enough internet and DDOS protection. Depending on your needs you can rent a VPS (with DDOS protection) to act as a reverse proxy for as little as 7 to 15 USD a month. A lot of servers these days are pay to win because server hosting companies charge large sums of money.
Not really, you can rent dedicated server hardware at smaller datacenters pretty easily. The reason many servers are pay to win is entirely because people realized how easy it is to scam children or make them gamble and nobody cares about enforcing consumer law in gameservers. There is zero reason behind it except greedy bstards.
@@NobbGamingOfficial as most would say, it really depends on your needs, you can look into energy efficient hardware and such. In some areas electricity is quite affordable as well. For a VPS, that's why you need to search well and not pick ones which are obviously bad. If you are hosting a huge network, then self hosting would not be a good option. However, for a small survival SMP with less than 50 players, it should be pretty decent. My biggest bottleneck right now is my internet. It is nowhere near enough for what I want to do. I have corrected my original comment by the way.
Download videos instead of continuously paying a streaming subscription, Download music instead of continuously paying a music subscription Run your own self-hosted server software instead of paying for subscriptions. It's a headache at the start, but if you can resist the urge of scrolling to the next tiktok video for like 7 days, then you barely have to think/worry about surprises again. Im doing all of the above mentioned things and i'm basically watching all these "extortion" and bad business practices unfold in the news as i eat popcorn, instead of experiencing it first-hand.
Shoutout to Aternos though. I used to host SMPs before they were popular thing on TH-cam, 5-6 players friends mostly my friends or friends of friends. Some of the most fun I've had playing minecraft and it was all for free. We weren't getting so much lag, but we were playing on Paper then switched to Fabric with Serverside performance mods once it became popular. Aternos also doesn't have that backup problem because they would backup files to your google drive and as long as you had enough space then you were fine.
@Fonkemonke Yeah I tested a bunch myself, basically whatever showed up on google when typing "Free minecraft host" Aternos was by far the best one due to the control you had and also just general performance.
@@Fonkemonke yeah, i used to use aternos for survival worlds with friends, and it worked fine. you get 2gb of ram on your server for free. if you want more ram, that's when you'll have to pay
The team behide Aternos is anything but professional and the team running the paid version will abuse their staff powers to push away any paying customer due to prejudice and/or spite/jealousy as their team is run by group of children.
I mean yes and no. Of course there are hosters with inflated prices but there is a overhead for support, programming and server maintenance. The profit margin should be around 40-50% for a company to really work and not be always on the verge of bankruptcy.
This is exactly why I started Astral Services which is my server hosting company, I have been through many hosts, so many have scummy practices and I was tired of it so I went to make my own, we aim to keep our prices as low as possible and we are also negotiable on pricing to make hosting more accessible. We also made sure to get good equipment unlike many other companies who are 7 generations out of date. We are tired of companies essentially scamming people with subpar services and many unnecessary restrictions. There are many many benefits of self hosting and many benefits of a hosting provider especially if you find a good one, there are many small companies out there that don't have the same scammy practices.
With self hosting it is really hard if you do not know what you are doing. You first need the upfront cost of purchasing a machine and then you need to have a powerful enough internet and keep power running 24/7, then if you don't use special methods you are giving out your IP to strangers. But when you are self hosting you can have full control over your server and you don't have as much monthly costs. On the flip side there are benefits of server hosting regardless of the hosting provider, many hosts have a support team who can help you with issues you encounter, almost every host gives you a panel as well that allows you to easily configure your server. This whole topic really is just down to what you are after and what kind of budget you have to start with.
tbh 4 seasons hosting isn't bad either pretty good hardware (ryzen 9 series of processors coming in the new year) and they are around $1 USD per gig so for what you get it's actually good hardware. But ya stay away from the big hosting companies and go with the smaller ones like 4 seasons hosting.
I've had awful experience with exaroton, I paid big $$$ for a 24/7 server and moderator kept turning it off due to bogus reasons, until one of their staff mentioned 'Yeah ...your suppose to pay to host a server for your friends ONLY' and 'Your not suppose to run a server 24/7, otherwise our staff will remotely stop it'. I have been hosting game servers since the dial up era and still to this day self hosting is number 1. However, if anyone wants a hosting company always choose 1s that are run by actual adults in data centre's and not children in their parents basement.
Lmao 😂😂😂 Literally the first section of their terms of service 😂😂😂 "§1 - Availability of our services The website and all corresponding services are usually available 24 hours per day." But seriously, isn't that breach of contract?
XD that pricing for shockbyte is funny. Their highest server offer is: "Titan, 60+ slots, 16gb ram for 64€ a month. For same price I have a dedicated machine with 64gb of reserved ram, reserved cpu cores, and like milion of storage, I host a whole network of overcomplicated servers and it cost me same like the shockbyte 16gb server xddd. (and i dont even talk about databases, backups, ports, and other stuff what are for sure restricted or also behind paywall) U made my day a lot better with this information when i know I dont waste my money.
Medium sized server owner here. I do think that server hosts aren't for everyone, but at the same time they aren't a scam. Basically server hosts are a middle man between you and a datacenter with them being able to integrate and maintain a server panel as well as help with server maintenance depending on the host. Most people do not have the technological knowhow to do that on their own as even though Pterodactyl is a free piece of software, setting it up is not easy. Now with very small friend group servers I would recommend trying to find a better solution than a paid host like maybe Aternos as ultimately if you want a unmodified pure vanilla server you don't need much and downtime is not too important. But for all medium to large servers, downtime is extremely important to avoid and maintaining a physical server is very difficult especially again if you don't have the tech knowledge to build and maintain one. For medium sized servers building a custom computer to run a server off of is extremely impractical as even with hosting plans you would consider as expensive, it would take years of payment to them to equal the price of how much the specs cost basically the cost of a physical server would be far more. The only instance I know of where its practical is when it comes to very large servers like 2b2t where they make enough money and are expected to go on for so long that it makes more sense just to build a server instead. But even then they have to pay for electricity to run it and have people maintaining the physical server. My advise is not to pay for hosting under any of the big hosts as they are a bit to big for their own good. Look around for the best host for you if you think buying server hosting is the best path forward.
There was a provider that gave 8 gb of ram 500 gb storage etc for 7Euro it was mad. The only issue was that once or twice a week for no reason the server would turn off, and they would say that they are working on a fix because of the internet provider. the server would be off for about an hour or so, still it was worth af.
I literally made one of my friends buy a 150 gbp/300 aud pc just for that reason. He was paying 15 gbp / 30 aud per month for a 5gb 2 core server. Now he has a 16gb 6 core 12 thread server that only costs about 1-2 gbp per month to run. In just 1 year all of the costs are covered by the savings
Get the free VM deal on oracle, 24gb ram, 4 core cpu (ARM, the Cpu is weak), 200gb storage. You basically get a powerful server for free forever, you own everything. Although you have to deal with everything since you'll be selfhosting, writing stuff on the command line on Linux, configuring the control panel from scratch. But the benefits are worth it 100%, you can host servers of any game (not just minecraft) , it runs buttery smooth, everything works once it set up, you don't risk leaking your ip or fucking up your router port forwarding because everything is on oracle servers.
@@pohodovejrybar5918 nope, it's actually forever However, you need to use always free recourses only Which are the 24gb ram and 4 core Arm cpu Search on Google "Oracle Cloud Always Free Resources" and you gonna find an Official Oracle Help article talking about it (I wrote this comment before with the link but it got deleted, so you gotta search it yourself) * Is it a pain to set up? fuck yes * Is it worth it? imo, 100x yes
The reason your server had issues when players were exploring is most likely due to them loading tons of new chucks in a short amount of time. That’s the most taxing thing you can do to a MC server is to generate new chucks. Combine this with weak hardware and you get lag. For anyone reading, if it’s just you and a few friends you should look into Minecraft realms. It works on Java and is optimized and ran by the company that makes the game. It’s $8 USD. Yea it’s not the cheapest but it’s pretty good and shouldn’t have as many issues. Or always self host. I won’t say the prices on these hosting providers are terrible, especially if they actually have their own data centers and arnt just renting from someone else. Keeping the lights on is expensive and paying for the skills required to maintain and upgrade these servers overtime is costly on their scale. For the cheap price you’re probably getting pretty old hardware but I’m not surprised. Self hosting or realms is the way to go.
As someone building a minecraft hosting business I can say that anyone offering you less then 4gb of ram is offering a bad product. 4gb and 2 cores for 5$ a month will be our lowest tier because we don't want to sell a product that can't keep up with customer needs and will need to be upgraded multiple times over. These companies sell lower tiers to squeeze out as much money as possible at the cost of user experience. Also its crazy they will charge you to speed up an upgrade, My business uses our own custom back-end running on our own servers so we will be able to upgrade you immediately for no extra cost.
I've been in the hosting industry since 2014. Server hosting is a relatively thin margin industry with the current pricing expectations of customers. Just a few short years ago, we were still seeing many hosting providers anywhere from $5 to $10 per GB RAM per month. Most these days are in the $1-$3/GB/month range, which you're going to struggle to beat with virtually any other option. "Shared" MC server hosting (the per GB RAM or per slot style we're looking at here) is beneficial for people who either don't have the skills or the time necessary to maintain their own machine, software, etc and who don't need dedicated support. That's the value add that these hosting services offer. If you don't see the value, then get your own VPS or dedicated server or try hosting off your home PC (likely against your internet service's ToS, by the way)..
In our case, I started a Minecraft server in 2020 for our group of friends. Nothing too complicated. We were paying 5€/month for hosting it (I think we had 2GB of RAM at the time). After a few months, we created a new one with forge, but needed at least 4GB to run it. We switched to the 10€/month plan. The servers were 1 and 2€ per person. We were very happy with them tbh, but for a long term server it gets expensive, as you said in the video. After that, a friend and I decided to start to selfhost everything. It was a lot cheaper. We are currently running a server network on a dedicated server we built with a xeon kit. The best decision we ever made. If we had to host everything on a mc server hosting it would get unsustainable very quickly. For less than we would have to pay in a few months, we have bought a dedicated server for ourselves and have full control over it. TMI, I know. Sorry hahaha.
There's hundreds of tutorials on how to self host, and a lot of machines from like 5-10 years can do it reasonably well, so if you have a spare pc around you can set one up on that
I would probably agree they do make good enough money from these like for example I am from a contry in asia, i use a hosting services from my contry and own a 24/7 online server with ddos protection, 4 GB Ram and shared i9 12 gen running fabric mod loader mc. Its decent and good enough. I pay about 4.5 ish USD per month for it. Similar spec in popular hosts are like 15 - 20 USD so im happy with the amount:performance ratio The location is set in Germany as i have members from europe, asia, America so thought It would be a nice middle ground. My ping stays about 150 to bit over 200 ish I do know how to setup, configure, maintain Minecraft server which i learned little by little. . Before paying i used a host called aternos which is a free host that gives about 2 GB of ram but it shuts down when no one playing in but ya its acceptable and good enough for small friend group or solo play. Its where i got to learn about how servers work and stuff.
as someone who has ran a small hosting company, the big ones overcharge and gives you crap specs, look for smaller minecraft hosts that's been around for at least a year and you will get a better experience. I know some hosts (I won't mention because I do not want to advertise anyone) will use i9 and Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 servers to host their game servers (which is best for a Minecraft server from experience) and they run well for the cost (around $0.75/GB ram to $1.5/GB ram). You are 100% correct in this video however, a lot are scams
As an austrailian, I don't ever play hypixel because 400 ping is unfun. I can't even play most minecraft servers, I play a lot of roblox now since minecraft multiplayer is unplayable.
I am a plugin dev for 11 years and have hosted multiple servers throughout that time. I worked with spigot, paper, and even fabric servers. I am also a very tech-heavy person, and try to learn the lowest level components of software and hardware. I would like to first start that Java only recently became somewhat good. I can't find exact figures from any reputable source, but even at a non-computer level knowledge, Java works by taking another language (C and C++) and running a virtual machine to then interpret code from their "ByteCode" back into C and C++ instructions to execute. Instead of taking code writen in C and then executing them in C, this adds a virtual machine that uses extra CPU to translate it. This is to say, no matter how performant the Minecraft server is, it will never be as efficient as a program written in C. **I say this because there are dozens of projects writing MC servers in these langauges**. If you want a server to be better for performance, change the language. Spigot, Paper, and even Fabric, all use Java as something tacked on. This means, you have lag problem with just the base game? Add more processes to the CPU and surely that will make it work faster! That is just wrong - mostly because even when it does make it faster, it does so by removing core aspects of the game and making assumptions to do things the base game does (see how items in vanilla do not stack together, but spigot will take all of the same item in an area and clump it together). From they very start, be wary of people advertising a plugin-server architecture over vanilla for performance reasons. Now for the real kicker: Pricing. A raspberry PI - that credit card sized computer - Has 4GB of Ram, and cost less than $3 a year to run 24s. Pi4 can be bought now for like $50 and the PI5 (which can play the whole of minecraft at a reasonable framerate) can be bought for $150 (including fan, heatsink, microSD, and power cable) Shockbyte is on sale currently, but it says you can buy 4G ram server for $15. If you want to have a server for less than a year, it is more cost effective, **While giving you the same performance** to buy a Raspberry PI 5 and host it on your own. If you did that, you would save **$30** in your first year doing this, and $175 every year later. If you used a computer before, and know how to plug in wires, you can host a server on your own, and it will be far cheaper to do so then paying someone to sit around and do nothing with all your money.
Don't forget they provide more than just a server, they set it up for you as well. You are just like the people who refuse to watch ads and refuse to pay for premium, while pretending that youtube doesn't provide a service.
Most minecraft server hosting companies just use the same open source backend that does everything for you. They only reskin it with their logos and such.
Ill say as someone self hosting, ive found great things in my little trash around the corner, have a server with 4x 2,5" Raid, 16GB DDR4 and an E3-1230-V6 and that thing was 0$
from what I experienced it is worth buying mc hosting over a VPS, but self hosting is always way better, if you have a good internet connection. Unless you are making a big server, then go with dedicated machine hosting or colocation.
It can be confusing but getting a server setup on your pc isnt the hardest if your comfortable trying its worth it, theres plenty of good videos to help with port forwarding
I could host a server, the cost would be the server itself, that i do own, i would also need to get my hands on a 2 trunk firewall to setup the ddos protection. Any problem would be out of my own pocket, and since i live in a country with very high electric prices, it would cost me $28 to run monthly. I pay $36 per month, by using a hosting company, and i've never had a server issue for more than 30 mins, execpt when the hosting company's entire internet went down because of cut cables. I gladly pay the extra $8 a month, so i don't have to deal with issues, so quite a low price to pay for the comfort of having good admins. People who only have 2-10 players could easily use a realm, but me with 60-100 players can't do that.
@@Fonkemonke True, honestly it's a bit insane that they are charging these prices when Oracle actually gives you 24gb for cloud servers for free, nowadays after so many people finding out about it you have to wait a huge queue to get it for free but if you spend a even a little you don't have to wait for the queue to get your instances. I heard this is because Oracle just wants to farm data from people and expand at all costs, and I mean you do have to doxx yourself to them but it's a small price to pay IMO.
I see a lot of replies, but you all have to understand that Asia is way pricier to host servers. That's why you always need to pay more for server hosting there.
I've been self hosting for 7 years. Just bought a 1U Server 15" Depth X11SSH-F E3-1270 V6 3.8Ghz 4 Core 32GB RAM 240G SSD for 250$ Crazy how much people spend on hosting providers
i used to run a mc server with friends on an old Dell pc with 4gb of ram and it ran alright. i only shut down the server because i started becoming their minecraft tech support
I'm french, and every time I see a US price for a server, i am like wtf is that! In France, we have server with the same performance for about 2 or 3 times less than US server! (and sometimes even more if you pay for multiple months at once)
After the 1.13 update the server had issues with loading chunks and lags that super normal but the prices 8 Euro for 3Gb thats total scam. In Poland you could buy 4gb ram servers for 2 euro and i was thinking that was expensive. And the lag is mostly because a lot of hostings have cpu's that have a lot of core's and have slow one core performance and minecraft is mostly a game that uses one core for almost everything. And remember guys new minecraft versions need atleast 4gb of ram from my experience to run well. 2gb is the minimum of minimum where you have all turned off and optimized.
That’s why I self host. I literally made a mini cluster of mini computers. Currently have seven with a 3-D printed server rack and I’m running Kubernetes’s where it shares resources or workload and I just put nerd stuff a.k.a. a VM system. I would say the name but there’s really no point but I spend up any VM I want and I could just set up multiple panels, but I mainly just use one allocate every single gigabyte I have all the CPU from all machines and then I’m happy and my players are happy.
You can get old E-Waste office computers for free, maybe upgrade the ram if need be, install Linux onto it and run a Minecraft server from it, should be alot better than hosting as the only price you're paying is the electricity
I've used shockbyte in the past, it couldn't even handle a 1.7.10 modpack like FTB Infinity Evolved, let alone a much harder to run modpack like Sevtech Ages or ATM. I then tried wisehosting cuz why not, and what previously ran like it was running on a 2008 office computer, now ran perfectly fine without issue. Wisehosting is still not cheap, but shockbyte can go suck it.
I host free servers for my small discord community. We have a blast and have very little issues. I have a home pc and 2 rented cloud servers i use for it, and even running modded minecraft they wrok amazing. Still plenty of room to open more gameservers too lol
These are all great points, I happen to know some people who are starting their own minecraft server hosting platform so this video can serve as amazing advice for how they are going to run their operations!
I do not like that mc server hosting sites just say how much ram a server has and not what cpu it runs under, ram depends heavily on the cpu and i can get the same or even better preformance with my self hosted 1g ram server as one aternos server or the lowest rank paid server that exists. Its the cpu that matters the most not the ram. Also ram is used logarithmically in this scenario, if every component is optimal, a 16g ram is enough to host a server for 3000 players and 32g is good for 10000 players.
Shockbyte is terrible. was playing ATM9 on it with a friend paying. he had to do basically all the work himself. then they deleted everything. the year worth of backups saved and the newest save just gone. He switched to Apex and says support is way better. Bisect i dont know the pricing, but any server ive played on with them is stableish as long as there are resets every 8 to 12 hours, even on a modded world that was 4 years old there was barely any lag with 30 plus people on it.
I dont know shockbyte feel the most scamming website. I started with 1gb ram an upgraded up to 8gb ram with a no plugin only me up and after 30minute the server said that the ram is full and become soo laggy you had to broke the same block 4times…. I had to restart the server every 30minute even after reducing the server render distance to 1chunk. At other hosting service you need 2-3gb for a pretty much decent amount of pluggin and not maxing your ram
I'll be straight up honest here. A Minecraft server should not be more than 1$ per GB RAM. Maybe 2.5 for more premium hardware. That's it. Everything else is a ripoff. And fun fact, even those budget plans are capable of networks. :O Don't get less than 8 gigs for a server though.
Nothing in this video is a scam you just made a lot of really bad and stupid choices and trusted a profit focused company with all of your money 1.Aternos is absolutely free and can run good with spigot/paper/fabric + mods so the dirt tier server hosting is basically wasting money (I've helped people setup servers with up to 8 people online simultaneously with minimal lag) 2.paying 6 euros a month to move the server to Australia instead of just downloading the world and paying an Australian server hosting site (they were probably just outsourcing the server to an Australian host anyway) 3.Not looking for better and more trusted hosts the moment you started having problems is just pure lazy (i guess customer support could have gone more in detail with how to download paper and how it helps)
Yeah, I think a better title would be more along the lines of 'shockbyte hosting is a scam' or more 'shockbyte hosting is a little scummy' Like I'm sure there is still cheaper options, but I used apex hosting for the longest time. And those guys where champions, support response time was within the hour & no extra fee for having an aussie server. The only annoyance is having too pay extra for a dedicated IP, but if you are just trying to host a server with a couple of friends you don't need it.
More like poor financial decisions when the answer is 'self hosting' or finding a VPS from the likes of OVH,AWS e.t.c and not some guy in their parents basement with shelves of PC's, charging big $$$ for lagtastic experience.
So... you had a bad experience with one host (which isn't a very good host, I agree there) and decided that ALL hosts are like this? There are absolutely good hosts out there - a friend uses one for the server I play on (we have played decently modded on a variety of versions; it runs great most of the time, and we get a dedicated core - this is something you MUST look for in a host, it is so much better than shared). One singular host is not representative of them all. I don't like this viewpoint.
Yeah this is a tragedy but if you stuck with them for 3 years you are as much to blame. Hosting prices, managed hosting is always much more expensive than doing it yourself, due to overheads and considering it's Minecraft the support is probably bogged down by every 12y old trying to run their own server. But this service sound horrible well depends on what kind of server you tried running. In 3 years you should have looked up how to run a server on Minecraft and deployed it on a service of your own, it's not that hard.
If you don't mind it being in the US I will host your minecraft server for free lol I'm currently hosting 3 minecraft servers and 2 foundry with no lag on my enterprise grade server lol 😂
Yesterday, I found Minecraft Hosting that $96 monthly for 32 GB of RAM with 10GB SSD.
(There are Cloud company offer 1TB SSD with 32 GB RAM and AMD CPU for just $90 monthly! so $96 monthly for just 32GB RAM & 10GB SSD are crazy expensive)
I won't mention to their names, but Yes! some company doing a scam.
Mostly Minecraft Hosting Products are overpriced, I think this is because their target customers are kids.
Because most kids have no knowledge to setup Minecraft Server with VPS or in local machine to publish to internet.
Kids mostly didn't know Fair Price for that spec and service.
When I was kid I was same. so yeah. simple answer. DO not buy Minecraft Hosting.
I know, they’re all overpriced, don’t waste your money.
@@Fonkemonke
Yes, so I am using my local server instead.
My internet is slow, so I'll need to consider buying VPS.
but I'll definitely not use “Minecraft Hosting Product”, instead I will find for trustable VPS or Dedicated.
Even that is way too expensive. For Europe for example you could get a Server from Hetzner that would cost up to 34€ per month (prices calculated per hour).
The specs are:
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700
RAM: 64 GB
Storage: 2 x 512 GB SSD
why not say their name?
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I don't wanna get considered adverting and they might takedown my comment if they found it.
I've been hosting minecraft servers myself since 2011.
A friend of mine had a host at creeper host and even a Intel core 2 duo E4300 was FASTER then the host he used.
Then later I was a member of the admin team for Xisuma and The hermitcraft server.
The trouble was with Hermitcraft is that it used one of those hosting companies with the same problem and a lot of lag. then they decided to do the same infrastructure as we have for Xisuma's patreon servers, which is get a dedicated box, set it up yourself but this requires Linux knowledge. and this was a day and night difference for the Hermits.
The big gotcha with those """Server hosts""" is that they give you shared CPU cores from a badly performing xeon cpu with alot of cores, and you share cores with other people, so if a person is also making a lagg machine on their server, it even might lagg out your server as well, if they didnt configure CPU pinning (most dont) correctly.
delete honey
All server hosting is basically a scam because they just resell AWS at 2000% profit margin
AWS is also too expensive
Most likely not. AWS has big egress pricing. Most hosting providers are just renting servers (VPS or dedicated) at datacenters for dirt-cheap price and wrap their UI + backend logic around it to spin up new minecraft servers inside these servers. They then charge like 500% markup for this. I mean it makes sense for not experienced people who just want server to play with friends, but you can just rent server from Hetzner for example for a few euros and have powerful minecraft server for a lot less $$.
I don't think so.
Usually MC hosters need dedicated servers to get the best performance per core.
Good hosters use gaming hardware like Ryzens and Intel Core, as that is the most optimal for a Minecraft server.
You can't really run a Minecraft server on a weak core.
I have experienced that, when I bought a VPS and instead of getting Intel or AMD machine, I got ARM cores. The weakest cores you can get in bulk.
They are comparable to what you get in cheaper phones.
It was pathetic. I could overload my server, myself, easily.
If your hosting provider has Epyc or Xeon, it's most likely not even worth using them, let alone reselling VPS providers.
However, it is normal for hosting providers to use OVH or other colocation or dedicated server hostings and resell that. It's the most optimal way, if they can't get your own datacenter.
Most hosts own the equipment. Hosts that do that are called summer hosts. They start for a few months and just disappear. If a host does not advertise they own their equipment it might be a scam.
very wrong. almost all server hosting is resold colocation or dedicated ryzen/intel core nodes.
I've always thought this, but I never had any platform to voice it.
I see servers like 0.5GB RAM 2GB world file $8/month
what??? like what the hell?! I'd rather run it on a Dell Optiplex and do some file managing over a week of fixing bugs and issues and downloading patches myself every few days
depends if shares resources or dedicated 3-4GB ram dedicated is around like 7-10GB ram shared
@@LisooYT dedicated to your server, like... 2GB RAM is all you REALLY need for like a 5 person server if only 2-3 of you will be online at a time, but 0.5GB?!?!
@@zapx1239 well 0.5GB of dedicated ram is just a scam you can only use it for tests or 2-3 vanilla survival or just manhunt if it will even handle it
I mean a Virtual Private Server (which most MC hosting is) is expensive to begin with. You are paying for 24/7 internet access and support with some redundancy. Ideally anyways. VPS providers give those services, MC hosts don't necessarily do though
If they have enough cash to sponsor people, they are clearly well off and profit well off their customers. If they didn't, they wouldn't advertise themselfs!
if you're in the community, this has been around for ages. Many hosts legit come by a certain month and die within a few, we even call them "summerhosts"
The ones which do run without dying often, yeah they play these tricks.
It didn't take me long enough but I legit started handing off free ways to host servers for random people online (risky, but I think it's good experience even if I get haxxored) just so they can avoid their one sale with a dumb hosting company
As a server owner myself, I can tell you that this is why self hosting is the best option for minecraft servers (if you are not hosting a large network). You get all the ports and full control of the hardware. If you have a decent enough pc or even a laptop and understand Linux, you can host a minecraft server long term. Most computers come with 16GB of ram, a modest amount of storage, and a decent enough CPU. All you would really need beyond that is good enough internet and DDOS protection. Depending on your needs you can rent a VPS (with DDOS protection) to act as a reverse proxy for as little as 7 to 15 USD a month.
A lot of servers these days are pay to win because server hosting companies charge large sums of money.
Not really, you can rent dedicated server hardware at smaller datacenters pretty easily. The reason many servers are pay to win is entirely because people realized how easy it is to scam children or make them gamble and nobody cares about enforcing consumer law in gameservers. There is zero reason behind it except greedy bstards.
Yk electricity aren't free right plus those "ddos protected" vps aren't tailored to gaming (or Minecraft specifically) at all
NAV FROM THE VCMC SERVER?!!?!?
@@NobbGamingOfficial as most would say, it really depends on your needs, you can look into energy efficient hardware and such. In some areas electricity is quite affordable as well.
For a VPS, that's why you need to search well and not pick ones which are obviously bad. If you are hosting a huge network, then self hosting would not be a good option. However, for a small survival SMP with less than 50 players, it should be pretty decent.
My biggest bottleneck right now is my internet. It is nowhere near enough for what I want to do.
I have corrected my original comment by the way.
I agree man self hosting is a blessing
I still want my ‘Why RDR2 is so good’ video
It’s coming dw
Download videos instead of continuously paying a streaming subscription,
Download music instead of continuously paying a music subscription
Run your own self-hosted server software instead of paying for subscriptions.
It's a headache at the start, but if you can resist the urge of scrolling to the next tiktok video for like 7 days, then you barely have to think/worry about surprises again.
Im doing all of the above mentioned things and i'm basically watching all these "extortion" and bad business practices unfold in the news as i eat popcorn, instead of experiencing it first-hand.
I quit TikTok months ago, now I spend all that time on TH-cam instead
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Shoutout to Aternos though. I used to host SMPs before they were popular thing on TH-cam, 5-6 players friends mostly my friends or friends of friends. Some of the most fun I've had playing minecraft and it was all for free.
We weren't getting so much lag, but we were playing on Paper then switched to Fabric with Serverside performance mods once it became popular.
Aternos also doesn't have that backup problem because they would backup files to your google drive and as long as you had enough space then you were fine.
fabric and aternos are goat
Huh I’m hearing a lot of good things about Aternos, and I’ve tested free servers but they were always really shit and tried to get you to upgrade
@Fonkemonke Yeah I tested a bunch myself, basically whatever showed up on google when typing "Free minecraft host" Aternos was by far the best one due to the control you had and also just general performance.
@@Fonkemonke yeah, i used to use aternos for survival worlds with friends, and it worked fine. you get 2gb of ram on your server for free. if you want more ram, that's when you'll have to pay
The team behide Aternos is anything but professional and the team running the paid version will abuse their staff powers to push away any paying customer due to prejudice and/or spite/jealousy as their team is run by group of children.
I mean yes and no. Of course there are hosters with inflated prices but there is a overhead for support, programming and server maintenance. The profit margin should be around 40-50% for a company to really work and not be always on the verge of bankruptcy.
That’s good thinking. It’s entirely possible that they have a very slim margin, but I highly doubt it
After switching from hosting to selfhosted server and port forwarding i must say it's a night and day difference
it's easy
thats why you host yourself on your own device and not just use a miserably maintained server that they charge you for
That’s what I did in the end
This is exactly why I started Astral Services which is my server hosting company, I have been through many hosts, so many have scummy practices and I was tired of it so I went to make my own, we aim to keep our prices as low as possible and we are also negotiable on pricing to make hosting more accessible. We also made sure to get good equipment unlike many other companies who are 7 generations out of date. We are tired of companies essentially scamming people with subpar services and many unnecessary restrictions.
There are many many benefits of self hosting and many benefits of a hosting provider especially if you find a good one, there are many small companies out there that don't have the same scammy practices.
With self hosting it is really hard if you do not know what you are doing. You first need the upfront cost of purchasing a machine and then you need to have a powerful enough internet and keep power running 24/7, then if you don't use special methods you are giving out your IP to strangers. But when you are self hosting you can have full control over your server and you don't have as much monthly costs.
On the flip side there are benefits of server hosting regardless of the hosting provider, many hosts have a support team who can help you with issues you encounter, almost every host gives you a panel as well that allows you to easily configure your server.
This whole topic really is just down to what you are after and what kind of budget you have to start with.
Shockbyte, more like ShockBye!
I used to use astral and you were such a good host always kept prices low, would join my server to see how you could help. Your were actually amazing
tbh 4 seasons hosting isn't bad either pretty good hardware (ryzen 9 series of processors coming in the new year) and they are around $1 USD per gig so for what you get it's actually good hardware. But ya stay away from the big hosting companies and go with the smaller ones like 4 seasons hosting.
@TheEarthFactions haha thank you! Didn't expect to find you in the comments on TH-cam 🤣
I've had awful experience with exaroton, I paid big $$$ for a 24/7 server and moderator kept turning it off due to bogus reasons, until one of their staff mentioned 'Yeah ...your suppose to pay to host a server for your friends ONLY' and 'Your not suppose to run a server 24/7, otherwise our staff will remotely stop it'.
I have been hosting game servers since the dial up era and still to this day self hosting is number 1. However, if anyone wants a hosting company always choose 1s that are run by actual adults in data centre's and not children in their parents basement.
Lmao 😂😂😂
Literally the first section of their terms of service 😂😂😂
"§1 - Availability of our services
The website and all corresponding services are usually available 24 hours per day."
But seriously, isn't that breach of contract?
@321Jarn Yes, it's a breach. However, they clearly don't give a toss.
XD that pricing for shockbyte is funny. Their highest server offer is: "Titan, 60+ slots, 16gb ram for 64€ a month. For same price I have a dedicated machine with 64gb of reserved ram, reserved cpu cores, and like milion of storage, I host a whole network of overcomplicated servers and it cost me same like the shockbyte 16gb server xddd. (and i dont even talk about databases, backups, ports, and other stuff what are for sure restricted or also behind paywall)
U made my day a lot better with this information when i know I dont waste my money.
even my laptop is better than their emerald plan (i have 8gb ram, but idk about cpu tho)
shockbyte is shocking
Medium sized server owner here. I do think that server hosts aren't for everyone, but at the same time they aren't a scam. Basically server hosts are a middle man between you and a datacenter with them being able to integrate and maintain a server panel as well as help with server maintenance depending on the host. Most people do not have the technological knowhow to do that on their own as even though Pterodactyl is a free piece of software, setting it up is not easy. Now with very small friend group servers I would recommend trying to find a better solution than a paid host like maybe Aternos as ultimately if you want a unmodified pure vanilla server you don't need much and downtime is not too important. But for all medium to large servers, downtime is extremely important to avoid and maintaining a physical server is very difficult especially again if you don't have the tech knowledge to build and maintain one. For medium sized servers building a custom computer to run a server off of is extremely impractical as even with hosting plans you would consider as expensive, it would take years of payment to them to equal the price of how much the specs cost basically the cost of a physical server would be far more. The only instance I know of where its practical is when it comes to very large servers like 2b2t where they make enough money and are expected to go on for so long that it makes more sense just to build a server instead. But even then they have to pay for electricity to run it and have people maintaining the physical server. My advise is not to pay for hosting under any of the big hosts as they are a bit to big for their own good. Look around for the best host for you if you think buying server hosting is the best path forward.
I never understand why people pay for those services since you can easily host your own server.
There was a provider that gave 8 gb of ram 500 gb storage etc for 7Euro it was mad. The only issue was that once or twice a week for no reason the server would turn off, and they would say that they are working on a fix because of the internet provider. the server would be off for about an hour or so, still it was worth af.
it was 7 Euro a month too.
I literally made one of my friends buy a 150 gbp/300 aud pc just for that reason. He was paying 15 gbp / 30 aud per month for a 5gb 2 core server. Now he has a 16gb 6 core 12 thread server that only costs about 1-2 gbp per month to run. In just 1 year all of the costs are covered by the savings
Get the free VM deal on oracle, 24gb ram, 4 core cpu (ARM, the Cpu is weak), 200gb storage.
You basically get a powerful server for free forever, you own everything. Although you have to deal with everything since you'll be selfhosting, writing stuff on the command line on Linux, configuring the control panel from scratch. But the benefits are worth it 100%, you can host servers of any game (not just minecraft) , it runs buttery smooth, everything works once it set up, you don't risk leaking your ip or fucking up your router port forwarding because everything is on oracle servers.
Been running mine since 2021 I believe, never paid a cent
Worth the effort 100%
forever? my friend said that its just for month. Also, registering is pain
@@pohodovejrybar5918 nope, it's actually forever
However, you need to use always free recourses only
Which are the 24gb ram and 4 core Arm cpu
Search on Google "Oracle Cloud Always Free Resources" and you gonna find an Official Oracle Help article talking about it (I wrote this comment before with the link but it got deleted, so you gotta search it yourself)
* Is it a pain to set up? fuck yes
* Is it worth it? imo, 100x yes
@@pohodovejrybar5918 ye, it's forever
You just need to use "always free recourses"
It's a pain to sign up and setup but its 100% worth it imo
@@pohodovejrybar5918 the registring proces is a little bit pain if you don't have a credit card or debit card.
The reason your server had issues when players were exploring is most likely due to them loading tons of new chucks in a short amount of time. That’s the most taxing thing you can do to a MC server is to generate new chucks. Combine this with weak hardware and you get lag. For anyone reading, if it’s just you and a few friends you should look into Minecraft realms. It works on Java and is optimized and ran by the company that makes the game. It’s $8 USD. Yea it’s not the cheapest but it’s pretty good and shouldn’t have as many issues. Or always self host.
I won’t say the prices on these hosting providers are terrible, especially if they actually have their own data centers and arnt just renting from someone else. Keeping the lights on is expensive and paying for the skills required to maintain and upgrade these servers overtime is costly on their scale. For the cheap price you’re probably getting pretty old hardware but I’m not surprised. Self hosting or realms is the way to go.
As someone building a minecraft hosting business I can say that anyone offering you less then 4gb of ram is offering a bad product. 4gb and 2 cores for 5$ a month will be our lowest tier because we don't want to sell a product that can't keep up with customer needs and will need to be upgraded multiple times over. These companies sell lower tiers to squeeze out as much money as possible at the cost of user experience. Also its crazy they will charge you to speed up an upgrade, My business uses our own custom back-end running on our own servers so we will be able to upgrade you immediately for no extra cost.
I've been in the hosting industry since 2014. Server hosting is a relatively thin margin industry with the current pricing expectations of customers. Just a few short years ago, we were still seeing many hosting providers anywhere from $5 to $10 per GB RAM per month. Most these days are in the $1-$3/GB/month range, which you're going to struggle to beat with virtually any other option.
"Shared" MC server hosting (the per GB RAM or per slot style we're looking at here) is beneficial for people who either don't have the skills or the time necessary to maintain their own machine, software, etc and who don't need dedicated support. That's the value add that these hosting services offer. If you don't see the value, then get your own VPS or dedicated server or try hosting off your home PC (likely against your internet service's ToS, by the way)..
In our case, I started a Minecraft server in 2020 for our group of friends. Nothing too complicated. We were paying 5€/month for hosting it (I think we had 2GB of RAM at the time). After a few months, we created a new one with forge, but needed at least 4GB to run it. We switched to the 10€/month plan. The servers were 1 and 2€ per person. We were very happy with them tbh, but for a long term server it gets expensive, as you said in the video.
After that, a friend and I decided to start to selfhost everything. It was a lot cheaper. We are currently running a server network on a dedicated server we built with a xeon kit. The best decision we ever made. If we had to host everything on a mc server hosting it would get unsustainable very quickly. For less than we would have to pay in a few months, we have bought a dedicated server for ourselves and have full control over it.
TMI, I know. Sorry hahaha.
There's hundreds of tutorials on how to self host, and a lot of machines from like 5-10 years can do it reasonably well, so if you have a spare pc around you can set one up on that
I can't self host because my internet connection isn't fast enough
I would probably agree they do make good enough money from these like for example
I am from a contry in asia, i use a hosting services from my contry and own a 24/7 online server with ddos protection, 4 GB Ram and shared i9 12 gen running fabric mod loader mc.
Its decent and good enough. I pay about 4.5 ish USD per month for it. Similar spec in popular hosts are like 15 - 20 USD so im happy with the amount:performance ratio
The location is set in Germany as i have members from europe, asia, America so thought
It would be a nice middle ground. My ping stays about 150 to bit over 200 ish
I do know how to setup, configure, maintain Minecraft server which i learned little by little.
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Before paying i used a host called aternos which is a free host that gives about 2 GB of ram but it shuts down when no one playing in but ya its acceptable and good enough for small friend group or solo play.
Its where i got to learn about how servers work and stuff.
bros complaining why his 1gb ram server is lagging.. ? like wth
he played with just 3-4 players. And the disk was "unlimited" while it was capped at just 2gb
as someone who has ran a small hosting company, the big ones overcharge and gives you crap specs, look for smaller minecraft hosts that's been around for at least a year and you will get a better experience. I know some hosts (I won't mention because I do not want to advertise anyone) will use i9 and Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 servers to host their game servers (which is best for a Minecraft server from experience) and they run well for the cost (around $0.75/GB ram to $1.5/GB ram). You are 100% correct in this video however, a lot are scams
As an austrailian, I don't ever play hypixel because 400 ping is unfun. I can't even play most minecraft servers, I play a lot of roblox now since minecraft multiplayer is unplayable.
I am a plugin dev for 11 years and have hosted multiple servers throughout that time. I worked with spigot, paper, and even fabric servers. I am also a very tech-heavy person, and try to learn the lowest level components of software and hardware.
I would like to first start that Java only recently became somewhat good. I can't find exact figures from any reputable source, but even at a non-computer level knowledge, Java works by taking another language (C and C++) and running a virtual machine to then interpret code from their "ByteCode" back into C and C++ instructions to execute. Instead of taking code writen in C and then executing them in C, this adds a virtual machine that uses extra CPU to translate it. This is to say, no matter how performant the Minecraft server is, it will never be as efficient as a program written in C. **I say this because there are dozens of projects writing MC servers in these langauges**. If you want a server to be better for performance, change the language.
Spigot, Paper, and even Fabric, all use Java as something tacked on. This means, you have lag problem with just the base game? Add more processes to the CPU and surely that will make it work faster! That is just wrong - mostly because even when it does make it faster, it does so by removing core aspects of the game and making assumptions to do things the base game does (see how items in vanilla do not stack together, but spigot will take all of the same item in an area and clump it together).
From they very start, be wary of people advertising a plugin-server architecture over vanilla for performance reasons.
Now for the real kicker: Pricing. A raspberry PI - that credit card sized computer - Has 4GB of Ram, and cost less than $3 a year to run 24s. Pi4 can be bought now for like $50 and the PI5 (which can play the whole of minecraft at a reasonable framerate) can be bought for $150 (including fan, heatsink, microSD, and power cable)
Shockbyte is on sale currently, but it says you can buy 4G ram server for $15. If you want to have a server for less than a year, it is more cost effective, **While giving you the same performance** to buy a Raspberry PI 5 and host it on your own. If you did that, you would save **$30** in your first year doing this, and $175 every year later.
If you used a computer before, and know how to plug in wires, you can host a server on your own, and it will be far cheaper to do so then paying someone to sit around and do nothing with all your money.
Don't forget they provide more than just a server, they set it up for you as well. You are just like the people who refuse to watch ads and refuse to pay for premium, while pretending that youtube doesn't provide a service.
set up for you is being very generous here lol
Most minecraft server hosting companies just use the same open source backend that does everything for you. They only reskin it with their logos and such.
@FourtyFifth even then setting up a mc server isnt that hard lol
Ill say as someone self hosting, ive found great things in my little trash around the corner, have a server with 4x 2,5" Raid, 16GB DDR4 and an E3-1230-V6 and that thing was 0$
from what I experienced it is worth buying mc hosting over a VPS, but self hosting is always way better, if you have a good internet connection. Unless you are making a big server, then go with dedicated machine hosting or colocation.
It can be confusing but getting a server setup on your pc isnt the hardest if your comfortable trying its worth it, theres plenty of good videos to help with port forwarding
I could host a server, the cost would be the server itself, that i do own, i would also need to get my hands on a 2 trunk firewall to setup the ddos protection. Any problem would be out of my own pocket, and since i live in a country with very high electric prices, it would cost me $28 to run monthly. I pay $36 per month, by using a hosting company, and i've never had a server issue for more than 30 mins, execpt when the hosting company's entire internet went down because of cut cables. I gladly pay the extra $8 a month, so i don't have to deal with issues, so quite a low price to pay for the comfort of having good admins. People who only have 2-10 players could easily use a realm, but me with 60-100 players can't do that.
Once I bought a 4gb shockbyte plan it ran with sh!t with 0 plugins installed
Just get a vps and learn how to set up a server it's super cheap and easy once you learn it
Well thats what I suggest at the end of the video
@@Fonkemonke True, honestly it's a bit insane that they are charging these prices when Oracle actually gives you 24gb for cloud servers for free, nowadays after so many people finding out about it you have to wait a huge queue to get it for free but if you spend a even a little you don't have to wait for the queue to get your instances. I heard this is because Oracle just wants to farm data from people and expand at all costs, and I mean you do have to doxx yourself to them but it's a small price to pay IMO.
Vps uses server grade CPUs which aren't that great at Minecraft which is primarily single threaded
Most VPS host use the worst cpu’s so this is terrible advice
I see a lot of replies, but you all have to understand that Asia is way pricier to host servers. That's why you always need to pay more for server hosting there.
I've been self hosting for 7 years. Just bought a 1U Server 15" Depth X11SSH-F E3-1270 V6 3.8Ghz 4 Core 32GB RAM 240G SSD for 250$
Crazy how much people spend on hosting providers
you could use exarton and switch the world file to there
i used to run a mc server with friends on an old Dell pc with 4gb of ram and it ran alright. i only shut down the server because i started becoming their minecraft tech support
I'm french, and every time I see a US price for a server, i am like wtf is that!
In France, we have server with the same performance for about 2 or 3 times less than US server! (and sometimes even more if you pay for multiple months at once)
11.54 Euros without a sale for 3GB RAM is mental.... Even then 7.73 Euros as well for 3GB is still pricey.
I've seen server host providers offering 512 GB RAM plans. Anything below 4GB is absolutely useless.
@@steamstream777 512 is for proxy servers
Been waiting for a video on this to be made for so long.
After the 1.13 update the server had issues with loading chunks and lags that super normal but the prices 8 Euro for 3Gb thats total scam. In Poland you could buy 4gb ram servers for 2 euro and i was thinking that was expensive. And the lag is mostly because a lot of hostings have cpu's that have a lot of core's and have slow one core performance and minecraft is mostly a game that uses one core for almost everything. And remember guys new minecraft versions need atleast 4gb of ram from my experience to run well. 2gb is the minimum of minimum where you have all turned off and optimized.
That’s why I self host. I literally made a mini cluster of mini computers. Currently have seven with a 3-D printed server rack and I’m running Kubernetes’s where it shares resources or workload and I just put nerd stuff a.k.a. a VM system. I would say the name but there’s really no point but I spend up any VM I want and I could just set up multiple panels, but I mainly just use one allocate every single gigabyte I have all the CPU from all machines and then I’m happy and my players are happy.
You can get old E-Waste office computers for free, maybe upgrade the ram if need be, install Linux onto it and run a Minecraft server from it, should be alot better than hosting as the only price you're paying is the electricity
i host my server myself, it's only for some people i know so i can get away with hosting it in my laptop and having it down when i'm sleeping
use free hosting
Bro that does not work for a server you want to keep up at all times
@@Fonkemonkeit does for example clyra or fractal
aternos is alot better than shockbyte (cuz it’s free)
I've used shockbyte in the past, it couldn't even handle a 1.7.10 modpack like FTB Infinity Evolved, let alone a much harder to run modpack like Sevtech Ages or ATM. I then tried wisehosting cuz why not, and what previously ran like it was running on a 2008 office computer, now ran perfectly fine without issue. Wisehosting is still not cheap, but shockbyte can go suck it.
If you have enough RAM you should host it on the main PC. Just learn it. Even singleplayer is worse than running a server and playing it on alone.
I host free servers for my small discord community. We have a blast and have very little issues. I have a home pc and 2 rented cloud servers i use for it, and even running modded minecraft they wrok amazing. Still plenty of room to open more gameservers too lol
These are all great points, I happen to know some people who are starting their own minecraft server hosting platform so this video can serve as amazing advice for how they are going to run their operations!
It's way better to just host minecraft server yourself or you can use essential mod if you want to play with friends
I do not like that mc server hosting sites just say how much ram a server has and not what cpu it runs under, ram depends heavily on the cpu and i can get the same or even better preformance with my self hosted 1g ram server as one aternos server or the lowest rank paid server that exists. Its the cpu that matters the most not the ram. Also ram is used logarithmically in this scenario, if every component is optimal, a 16g ram is enough to host a server for 3000 players and 32g is good for 10000 players.
Shockbyte is terrible. was playing ATM9 on it with a friend paying. he had to do basically all the work himself. then they deleted everything. the year worth of backups saved and the newest save just gone. He switched to Apex and says support is way better. Bisect i dont know the pricing, but any server ive played on with them is stableish as long as there are resets every 8 to 12 hours, even on a modded world that was 4 years old there was barely any lag with 30 plus people on it.
I dont know shockbyte feel the most scamming website. I started with 1gb ram an upgraded up to 8gb ram with a no plugin only me up and after 30minute the server said that the ram is full and become soo laggy you had to broke the same block 4times…. I had to restart the server every 30minute even after reducing the server render distance to 1chunk.
At other hosting service you need 2-3gb for a pretty much decent amount of pluggin and not maxing your ram
I'll be straight up honest here. A Minecraft server should not be more than 1$ per GB RAM. Maybe 2.5 for more premium hardware. That's it. Everything else is a ripoff. And fun fact, even those budget plans are capable of networks. :O
Don't get less than 8 gigs for a server though.
Solution: Buy an old computer, but with good specs (like intel i5 or smth) to host a minecraft server, a site... anything u want...
Switched to a hypixel smp server, best decision. Cant use plugins though sadly but 1 time payment and rarely any lag with 5 friends lol
Never Rent a minecraft Server just Rent an Root Server or an vServer with Debian Never had any Problems
This is why I just use oracle free tier
Nothing in this video is a scam you just made a lot of really bad and stupid choices and trusted a profit focused company with all of your money
1.Aternos is absolutely free and can run good with spigot/paper/fabric + mods so the dirt tier server hosting is basically wasting money (I've helped people setup servers with up to 8 people online simultaneously with minimal lag)
2.paying 6 euros a month to move the server to Australia instead of just downloading the world and paying an Australian server hosting site (they were probably just outsourcing the server to an Australian host anyway)
3.Not looking for better and more trusted hosts the moment you started having problems is just pure lazy (i guess customer support could have gone more in detail with how to download paper and how it helps)
Yeah, I think a better title would be more along the lines of 'shockbyte hosting is a scam' or more 'shockbyte hosting is a little scummy'
Like I'm sure there is still cheaper options, but I used apex hosting for the longest time. And those guys where champions, support response time was within the hour & no extra fee for having an aussie server. The only annoyance is having too pay extra for a dedicated IP, but if you are just trying to host a server with a couple of friends you don't need it.
More like poor financial decisions when the answer is 'self hosting' or finding a VPS from the likes of OVH,AWS e.t.c and not some guy in their parents basement with shelves of PC's, charging big $$$ for lagtastic experience.
I can't believe you PAID for 1GB of ram. There are providers with 8GB for FREE with 24/7 uptime, how can this happen?
So... you had a bad experience with one host (which isn't a very good host, I agree there) and decided that ALL hosts are like this?
There are absolutely good hosts out there - a friend uses one for the server I play on (we have played decently modded on a variety of versions; it runs great most of the time, and we get a dedicated core - this is something you MUST look for in a host, it is so much better than shared). One singular host is not representative of them all. I don't like this viewpoint.
algo boosting !
Host yourself a server, all you need to do is configurate your router and start the server when needed.
Configurate........
@Proferk im frensh sorry 😅
i use aternos bc no one cant join my local server for some reason, maybe my 2g usb wifi that cant do hotspot
if you dont mind a subscription still i would recommend you rent a kvm, you will get a lot better performance for the same price
Been self hosting since forever. Just get a cheap hetzner server.
Dang your “Really good at pvp I mean really good”😮
Yeah ok thanks champ
Yeah this is a tragedy but if you stuck with them for 3 years you are as much to blame. Hosting prices, managed hosting is always much more expensive than doing it yourself, due to overheads and considering it's Minecraft the support is probably bogged down by every 12y old trying to run their own server. But this service sound horrible well depends on what kind of server you tried running. In 3 years you should have looked up how to run a server on Minecraft and deployed it on a service of your own, it's not that hard.
Well that’s what I did in the end…
I host a server network on 2 pcs its small 4 cpu cores total but router is prety slow low ping but no speed
Pebble host has great prices i highly recommend them
Alright I’ll pin you then so everyone pay hear
Thank you for sharing your story!
I personally use Aternos and my friend self hosts. Honestly those are some of the better methods
Is Aternos really that much better? I checked their prices and they didn’t seem to good in comparison to others
@ I just use their free variant
They're free one is great honestly playing with 3-4 friends
@@Nojus-x7g yeah, i just share the account to startup the server with the free variant so everyone can start when they want to play
i can host you a server with 8 gb ram for 10 euro per month
Yo u should just host your own server on an extra computer u have if u want I can show you how to u really don’t need much
If you don't mind it being in the US I will host your minecraft server for free lol I'm currently hosting 3 minecraft servers and 2 foundry with no lag on my enterprise grade server lol 😂
i just use a dedi.
i js use essentail
5:05 paper/spigot/any plugin based server software sucks. use fabric with bunch of server optimisation mods if you dont need plugins
Well if I could do it again I’d try that
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Just use essential server hosting (aternos logs your ip and shows to owner DO NOT USE ATERNOS)
minecraft by default logs your ip and is accessible to server owners.
Every server does that. No matter what you do on the internet, every website/server has your IP.
No matter what you do on the internet unless you use a VPN (even then there are ways) they can get your IP
@@doggyyesyes6650 Essential does not share your ip
@@doggyyesyes6650 Ik and even some vpns keep ips but aternos shows your ip I don't think minehut does
Pebblehost is the only good one imo
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