Can you Beat Battle for Middle Earth Deathless?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- One of my favourite movie tie in games, Battle for Middle earth. A squad based game similar to Command n Conquer 3, can I pull it off without losing a single soldier?
Download this launcher in order to play BFME 1 and 2 without any hassle and for free! Just download, open the launcher and choose the game and patch and off you go.
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0:00 intro
06:46 Moria
08:23 Lothlorien and Amon Hen
09:33 Skirmish and upgrade explained
13:51 Eaves of Fangorn
15:14 Helms Deep
20:24 Isengard
21:09 Northern Ithilien
22:50 Osgiliath
25:18 Cirith Ungol
27:31 Minas Tirith
30:26 Black Gate of Mordor - เกม
Cheers to 100k! My first time ever! thanks so much to everyone for watching and supporting :)
Too late to tell you now, but if you do Moria again…don’t level up Gandalf and solo the balrog at lvl 1 with just his first spell. It’ll boost him to lvl 5.
@@Kaptiv239 really? Wow! Ill remember that for next time thanks! Always levelled him up to make the fight easier
I think the reason the Lord of the Rings tie-in games are great is... Everyone involved either loved or respected the work of the Professor and wanted to do their best.
*Devs for LotR: Gollum*: "Hold my beer ... "
@@germanguy871 Gollum seems more like the result of internal studio problems rather than a disregard for the source material.
The games were made by studios with actual talents rather than by studios that try to milk brand recognition. War of the ring wasnt as fuck as BFME. And BFME was made by EA LA that had westwood studios devs and medal of honor devs.
"A fool of a took gets one-shot by a troll rock"
"One-shot"?
You sent him in with like a quarter of his health! You can hardly blame Pippin for that one!
ahah I guess I could have stopped for second breakfast first! I do like how the troll was like... hmmm smallest target in the back first? and pitch a rock laser accurate :P
My all time favorite line in any movie is. "BREAK THE DAM... UNLEASH THE RIVER!" that hyped me up soo much when i was little watching it for the first time.
the fan patch even allows pippin and merry to garrison treebeard and throw stones! But yeah the scene as a kid was so badass it still gives me shivers
Has you watched Noah. There’s a fight scene and I think you’d like it. One of the characters says something very badass
that gets used in the Lego lord of the rings in a great fashion hehe
@@fourthknower9831Yep that awesome song they made was hilarious. Wasn't it from like a vial or something that you equipped?
my favourite part of any movie has to be Theodens speech and the charge of the rohirrim in pelennor fields. Have watched that movie like 100 times and still get goosebumps every time
Although if this run didn't go perfectly (the bannermen, for example), it didn't matter. I still enjoy the fact that this gem is being played and discussed even nowadays.
I was quite surprised at the lack of coverage too! Perhaps its because its abandonware now so it isnt as readily available but there are some "pro" matches being played and casted too which are good fun to watch!
"Without losing a single soldier. Not squad, soldier"
Investment in the vid went from casually interested to hot damn.
If not for those pesky bannermen, learning from this playthrough I reckon it could be done, with a LOT of time
I'm glad you listened to advice and branched out to other games. As said before: don't worry if other did the same challenge before. You have enough charisma to put your own spin on it. Keep 'em coming, buddy! Love your style🎉
The best part of the video is already your reveal of how to play these gems in this day and age
THANK YOU Admiral
I live to serve! And its shockingly easy to get the launcher and games working, I am going to try War of the Ring stream next and there is a lot of hoops to jump through to get taht game runnin
How
This is hardcore levels of nostalgia bait and I am all here for it.
Can't wait for BFME 2
I love this game. The music and voice acting make what would have otherwise been just a good rts into a true classic. I still remember the first time I played this as a kid and being taken aback at how beautiful the world map was to behold with the beautiful music and eagles soaring over the mountain. Can't wait to see how you pulled this one off.
I like the world map top what I liked is you can actually see a lot of stuff not mentioned in the game and they even have a lil corner movie scene representing the territory you are looking at
@@Admiral_Iddy For sure! I enjoyed the short movie clips that would play when you selected certain areas and armies. The army's movie clip would often change and update depending on context/progress in the campaign.
"Bannerman aren't people."
The Dawn of War intro would like to have a word with you.
Haha that bannerman was bannering for the emprah! If rohan had such a worthy cause their lives would matter too 😉
I thankful to you to make this video that has give me a little nostalgia. 🤗
If you want to make other deathless run I recommend you the evil campaign of BFME1 or BFME2:ROTWK (Agmar campaign) but this time use the rule of full squad death instead of unit or you will go crazy 😛
haha I would have to do the squad rule as I already tried pure deathless in evil and I nearly threw my computer out the window! haha maybe one day Ill give em a try :) Thanks for watching!
I just clicked on this video for the nostalgia - I haven't been able to play my copy in years since PCs never have support for CDs anymore 😂 And then you come out of nowhere and show off this launcher to get the digital version? Life saver! Thanks dude 😄
I got you man! I am a hoor for nostalgia and any way I can play or share the past with people is a good day for me :) they truly dont make em like they used to
Same! I've wanted to play the games again for years but didnt know how. Then found this video
I've been playing this game (and the sequel) for years, but I've learned A LOT from this video. Thanks a lot :*
Good stuff man! I love this game and the 2nd one. Keep up the good work!
Great job! My favourite game used during a challange run is something i never knew i needed until now 😃
Thanks bro! Unfortunate that I couldn't QUITE do it haha most of the games I've tried have that ONE level that gives attitude but glad you enjoyed the video!
I have been looking for a way to play this game for years and years! Thank you so much!
I really liked 1. But 2 is the game that got me addicted to RTS games. Between Star craft and BFME 2 I spent hundreds of hours as a kid just playing. Love that stuff
If your looking at getting the launcher, I think it’s also worth to note that it includes multiplayer if you want to play it! The launcher is amazing
LOTR the third age, for the GameCube. That was my childhood 😂
LoL at that forces of evil “section”
thanks for that launcher shout out I have had a hell of a time trying to get this to work for me on and off and that worked instantly so yeah thansk
Well played! Very impressive run
I don’t know if you mention it in the video, but on the stream it was cool having you name your units after the viewers! I thought that was a fun and personable touch.
I did! Still might do another stream with naming all the units after the viewers it was a fun idea !
Love to see Bfme content, it brings back so many memories!
Nice been looking forward to this
Wasn't on as much when you ere streaming this, but this catches me up. Still waiting on the rest of the Kingdom Under Fire Vids haha.
The Shelob part is beautiful actually made me laugh out loud as she scurries into Cirith Ungol to start attacking all the Orcs. Great video became even more amazing, great work!
Thanks for the support! Thats whats fun about the challenges and the community you find some really neat situations you may have not have thought of possible
This game and it's Sequel along with Black and White, Empire at war and Total War where my childhood, I remember being a young LOTR Fan in 2004-5 finding out this game came out and then trying find out more about and see more videos. This game set be on my path to PC gaming and Strategy games, something I still love today.
I still remember the videos with dustin browder showing off soldiers being afraid of trolls and recoiling when nazgul turn up. Would just watch on repeat getting so hyped!
I still remember that to this very day, it was lovely to watch and for the time it was amazing. @@Admiral_Iddy
This was such a treat to watch! One of my favourite games of all time, i was addicted to this and is one of the first strategy games i played in multiplayer.
thanks for watching! and I played the heck out of it too, Im even streaming its competitor War of the Ring tonight which I didnt get to play when I was young
Very good video, keep it up!
I absolutely never knew ents could walk into water so the fire got extinquished! And i played this game hundreds of hours
Haha just like I didnt know you could garrison archers in outposts! Thats what i love about these runs, I still discover new stuff decades later.
Ty for showing us the patch
Warcraft II human music playing on the background. Love it 😂👍🫶
Not gonna lie, watching how Sam outsmarts the whole orc outpost and Shelob herself was fun
haha he is the leader of the pyramid scheme, why work hard when you can have others do your work for you
Hope to more BFME gameplay, this was a great watch.
yoo great stuff brodi
The ending is amazing haha
F L Y, S H A D O W F A X!
Great video. I never played BfME myself, I think we had #2 but it didn't run well or had some other issue so I didn't play much of that either. I might just go install that launcher and give it a go myself!
Absolutely man its CRAZY easy to get running, like no mounting ISOs or Cracks or messing around it literally is dl and play so you cant go wrong! The mods for the game are immense too I recommend checking them out after you play vanilla :) Thanks for watching!
Big respect for showing the client for LOTRBFME have it installed and I'm vibing to the menu music rn
Gotta spread the joy! Someone showed me the launcher it only makes sense to bring the game back to the light 😁 glad I could help!
3:05
Holy shit I didn't make the connection until you said it. No wonder they felt so similar in many ways.
Yeah! I only learned this recently too, makes sense seeing as ranged combat was so much better than melee, engine being more focussed on guns for CnC
Also love to see other LoTR challenges
I love that game and after you explaining the rules i was like god bless
Also i think health shows up if you hover over the selected units picture in the bottom left
War of the Ring was a game not many played and maybe not the greatest, but definitely an interesting experience. Both that and BFME 1 and 2 were great parts of my childhood, along with Warcraft 3
Just found this channel today and I'm immediately binging your LOTR / Warcraft vids. Fucking great content, 10/10
thanks so much bro! Im still blown away by the response to my stuff :)
Hell yeah, brother.
Fun fact about this game, its possible to level all your heroes to 3 in Moria if you save the free levelup armor racks for the end and lasthit trolls with the hobbits.
ooooh thanks for the link to the game. That's something i can waste some time in, while i'm sick at home.
Never seen your videos before but I do love BFME, I hope you give the other campaign and other games a shot for this challenge if it's doable :)
It's been A LONG time since I played that Hobbit game, but I remember liking it for a neat and colourful action platformer
Im planning on streaming all the offshoot games sometime I still remember really enjoying that fellowship game as janky as it was
This vid earned you a sub, now go for 2
BMFE is in my all time games ever. The AOTR mod is also phenomenal and has kept the community going which has been phenomenal.
hell yeah man AOTR is actually such an achievement like better than a triple A game with a massive budget it even has a proper single player campaign too
Loved this game!
You should probably have set the deathless rule to apply to the whole squad instead of just each individual unit. This would have made a banner carrier rule moot as well as the exception you made for Osgiliath.
That would also make the run way too easy
All three games are incredible. Are they the deepest strategy games out there? No, but they don't need to be. These games were meant to be fun, and that's exactly what they accomplished. Incredibly fun games to go back and play even today.
BFME2 is my fav ever game
In a very rare case, BFMW was probably one of the very few games that got even better with the sequel
One of my fondest gaming memories was finishing Helm's deep on the good campaign without a single squad dying. And this was the first time I mustered the courage to try the hard difficulty. In the end, after Gandalf arrived with the reinforcements and the battle was won I was siting at something like 800/ 350 army cap.
I tried to play bfme2 with some mods that update it a few weeks ago, but it really didn't age well in my opinion.
I just remind that C&C III has deathless runs so some rules are established.
I used to absolutely love this game it was great seeing you play it. Also a fun bit of info if you didn't have the no-summons rule on the Minas Tirith battle (if I'm remembering it correctly) your Ghost army summons don't disappear on that map.
i wondered that! The timer at least seems to be WAY longer than when you summon them yourself. Thanks for watching!
Holy crap I thought about this idea as what I would do if i ever got into youtube as a creator! Glad to see it
I would argue that units you don't have control over are not your units this you don't lose them as they were not yours.
Still nice to see Battle for Middle Earth again, I still have my old disk copy.
Is your intro soundbite with the birds from King's Quest VI by chance? With Alexander stranded on the beach, brings me back lol.
Love BFME, cool video
nailed it! haha you are 1 of 2 people that have recognized the soundbite! Thats a great series too. Thanks for watching
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I never thought about this back then. How right you are, how absurd it must be to just start in Moria and control 9 heroes and have no idea what the game is about. LOL :D
Right?! We all glossed by it I think because we probably saw the movies but i genuinely wonder what someone thought of this game who never knew anything about lotr! The war of the ring game im pretty sure didnt even mention the ring except for one mission
Great video, can you also make a video of bfme 2 and the expansion rise of the Witchking? (Although if you ever come to evil campaign level rivendell... Man that map is literally impossible)
Ahh, this game was my childhood
So much nostalgia
Impressive! Think you made the right call picking an early patch, not sure if this is possible on 2.22 or 1.9 on hard, 1 tip, I noticed your heroes are quite low level on the final mission. if u kill the balrog with level 1 gandalf, he is level 5 on the next mission. meaning you can get a lot more levels for your heoroes in the first mission instead of letting gandalf get the xp, im at helms deep on my current playthrough and my gandalf is level 9, and because he didn't pick up the xp boosts in moria it gave room for the other heroes to extra xp too.
The balrog fight as a level 1 gandalf is a big tip tho, assuming it works in the earlier patches, I did it just yesterday on patch 2.22 though, and it worked a charm although it took a long time for level 1 gandalf to kill the balrog. Haven't played the old patches in a long time though, can't guarantee it would work on them.
Aw man I wish I knew that earlier! I didnt want to risk any more deaths so I didnt grind the optional levels so my gandalf was super weak for the final level. If I could have had his nuke ability it would have probably allowed me to keep my summons in order. Next time Ill try your strat with the balrog. Thanks for watchin!
This game is a classic
funny enough the updates is what made it super easy to save boromir on amon hen as when the game came out he didnt do a aoe knockback with his base attacks meaning he could get overwelmed, but with the addition he just knocks down everyone and thus bearly gets hit
I didnt know that, thats helpful! I think in BFME 2 they buffed all melee heroes to hit multiple people which is a good change, melee heroes are just a tad too slow compared to machine gun legolas haha and wizard blasts
Regarding the Mumakil at Minas Tirith: If I remember correctly, their aarival is not tied to you summoning the Rohirrim. They will automatically show up a few minutes after the timer for the flag is up. You can use this to bait the Mumakil to the city, kill them with fire before they lay eggs and then wreak havoc with the Rohirrim.
Ahh thats interesting, would have made my life a lot easier! Haha I just picture gondor sending a message to theoden to be like, hold up lads! Have a smoke break for a few minutes while we clean up here...then ride to ruin!
I seem to remember a level 10 Gandalf with word of power trivializes the last mission. Just wait for the waves to spawn with him sitting right in the middle and use it to wipe out the wave instantly and wait for the next.
That being said, I don't remember what difficulty I was playing on, so milage may vary.
Great to see someone try this run aswell... I completed this run myself on my own channel some time ago. Try the evil campaign next. Its waaaaay harder
Your video came across my feed last night! Well done to you as well, even managed to keep those pesky bannermen alive haha was glad to see osgiliath wasnt conquered by either of us :) The evil campaign I dont think my brain could handle haah and the 2.22 patch I tried made it STUPID hard did you manage to do it without losing a single orc?
@@Admiral_Iddy I got 3/4 trough the evil campaign but its sooo hard to defeat the good forces with their walls. I also played on the original Patch because the Patch 2.22 is so fcking hard I mean I can beat it but its close even without any additional rules. Did you know there is also a coop version for the good campaign ? Always wanted to try this out in a run aswell
omg i know I had to give up helms deep evil they messed with the wall hitboxes and made the enemy sally out with infinite units and I just couldnt do it anymore. Oh man coop in strategy games is so great I wish every strategy game had it haha Age 2 and Red Alert 3 has coop and are so sweet. I think there is a warcraft 2 and 3 coop mod as well@@Jofga
@@Admiral_Iddy already played them all. But a warcrsft 3 coop deathlesd run sounds intresting
The part of the video where minas tirith gets sieged is amazing and hilarious with the amount of catapults there were.
it took me a while to realize it wasnt dangerous ahha If you had troops on the outer wall it would probably be scarier but they just shoot the same indestructible buildings over and over, thank goodness! It did make it look cinematic for sure though
@@Admiral_Iddy the funny thing is they do an aod damage, so any units you are marching at the lower lever are getting hit pretty easily with this bombardment. So no, they are not completely useless under normal circumstances.
You're really making me want to bust out my 17 year old copy of BFME 2
Do it preciousssss this is your conscious haha
Great video ❤❤❤
I have a challenge in mind:
Can you beat the campaign with only the most basic unit?
Use only peasants soldiers Gondor and warriors uruk/ orcs
Rules for both: only the one type of unit that can be used.
Heroes not allowed unless there's no way to command the basic unit, also cant used to buff.
Powers allowed, but not allowed summoning powers.
Towers allowed.
Existing units that aren't basic are expendable either go slaughterhouse or let them die without damaging the enemy, although they can be used if theres no way to get basic unit in certain maps.
Upgrading armour and weapons allowed
Evil side: labores can be used for fight, ladders and siege towers allowed if theres castle
Funny you should mention this idea because after my elves only I thought of the same thing! a peasant only or gondor soldier only! I legit might someday. I actually think it will be more feasible than I expect. I was even going to name the units after the chat and viewers so we can take bets on who survives the campaign or gets the most kills :) If I do it Id have the rules like you stated certain powers and no summons etc
i know youre a wc2 guy, but it still warms my heart to hear the music on videos not about it
oh yeah I love the war2 soundtrack there is a guy who covers it in metal form which is badass. I would have used LOTR music but those copyright gods HATE when they hear it on youtube haha
@@Admiral_Iddy very true, wc2 is almost abandonware at this point
You are already insane enough attempting this.
That said: Maybe hard difficulty campaigns with actually losing no squad instead of single units ^^" (dunno)
I have thought about retrying with those rules, at the very least doing a viewer named army run and see who gets to the end. Could fold em together, if not for those bannermen it could be done methinks!
My interpretation of the army of the dead summon is "What is dead may never die." So you get a pass.
We did discuss that in chat too, since they are already dead they cannot die! I still tried to avoid them for most of the game as they absolutely spank the enemies haha but black gate nearly killed me
@@Admiral_Iddy But did you pay the iron price?
Lord of the Rings Conquest is an all time classic, OG battlefront 2 but for lotr
if you ever for some god-forsaken reason want to put yourself through the pain of a deathless mission 11 again, I'd recommend upping Gandalf to level 10 beforehand - at that point he is capable of casting "word of power", which is a magical nuke centred on himself that kills most units within 100 metres of him (which I believe is based on the spell effect which happens in the movies when Sauron dies at the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring).
Yeah I realized after I could try that, although it means i would have to grind a couple more skirmish maps for levels which doing deathless is annoying as heck too haha ah well if i ever were to try again id do that for sure
Are you going to do this for the evil forces? And are you going to do this for the 2nd game?
Currently AoTR team (mod for LoTR BFME 2) working on finishing campaign which inspired by movies and books the same time and there you can save Boromir and even Haldir and mod team write dialogs for that
Age of the Ring? Thats the best mod in my opinion thats cool that you are apart of the team! I was legit thinking about showcasing it on stream sometime. Keep up the good work to you and your team!
did you ever try putting your archers in the towers for the kite section at the end? might have been a major help and kept them safer as long as it doesnt affect aggro to the towers. it never noticed it affect aggro towards towers but i also never tried to play the game this way
Unfortunately you cannot garrison those towers 😭 it would have made my life soooo much easier even if i could garrison the camp citadel building like with outposts. If only i could put legolas in there for maximum snipe action
One thing i like about bme IS that It almost play as a total war game. Cavary charges send enemys flying , Spears can almost insta kill cavary units charging and They are realy good against big units, shields make then hard to kill with Long range, fire IS used to burn wood units (ents mostly), artilary feels like artilary.
oh yeah absolutely I do think the rosters could use some filling out, like rohan has no dedicated anti cavalry or artillery, and the good forces in general could use some more siege options and maybe a permanent way to train an eagle. going rohan vs gondor walls will be a pain until you get ents which is an expo plot and expensive. BFME 2 mods gave em a little catapult :) other than that the game is super tight a good blend like you said of total war grand battles with rts base building mechanics
I would say summons do count as deaths, becouse in the last mission at the Black Gates if you use eagels, which count as hero units, and their timmer runs out and they disapear you will not get the objective of finishing this mission without losing a hero.
As a veteran player in this, Hard difficulty in insane to pull this one. Also, I am pretty sure that Outpost garrisons is from some community patch. Vanilla BFME 1 you can only garrison Towers BUT when you do that, you lose a unit and, which was fixed in BFME 2 and in community patches.
Oh yeah without pesky bannermen deaths doing this on hard at my skill level was just too much, especially live streaming it too I always feel pressured to do well quickly to not bore the crowd with 6 hours on one mission haha! Unfortunately the 1.9 doesnt let me garrison camp towers which would have made a world of difference in black gate
Jesus christ i feel all of my childhood ...
😢oh wow i also never knew about shelob destroying everything
To be fair, it'd be weird if the Army of the Dead would die, since you know... they're already dead
love the video!! wait is the launcher free and safe? id LOVE to play bfme2 but i dont want to get a virus or anything on my pc
Free and safe in my experience! Have at it! No issues on my end
If you'd gotten Gandalf to level 10 you could use his Word of Power ability to just one shot every enemy on the screen in the battle of the black gate mission. Yes, that's what it does, with little exaggeration.
that definitely could make things easier, since you are level capped 1 level up per mission I figured 3 more skirmish battles would be a lot more worrying about deaths, maybe ill giver another go and see if I get better results
Please Admiral: Do Dune2000!
This is incredibly impressive.
BTW: You can also play online now! The patcher has an online pvp function.
thats awesome! I used to love playing games online as a kid using siege ladders and bombs or the custom wall defence maps good stuff I occasionally watch some casts of games online
@@Admiral_Iddy I remember back in the day people got really creative with the online mapmaker. Footman Frenzy, an arena mode with custom (super overpowered) heroes, tower defence and a more true to the movies story mode are the ones I best remember.
The launcher made by the Beyond Standards team, the one you shared in the video, is also made by a group that organize really cool championships!
using the ghosts summon is fair game, imo
they're literally invincible
so no casualties >w
a bunch of viewers agree that as well, and that they are already dead haha If I redid the level a little differently I think I could do it, maybe one day!
Great video! How do you zoom out so far with the camera?
It must be just a perk of the launcher version, it has better resolution and other options, also thanks for watchin 😁
@@Admiral_Iddy okay, can you try running the bfme2 campaign from the launcher and see if you can zoom out there?
Hey, question. What game is it that has the dragon that is shown at 0:42-43 seconds?
that would be Eragon, I DO NOT recommend it however, one of the worst license games I personally have played and that was for the 360.
A friend gave me a CD of this game almost 10 years ago I think haha, it was the best game ever, but the CD broke accidentally 😔
Can't wait for fan made BFME game, they promised to make it soon