HIDING CABLES FOR CONSUMER UNITS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- @PBPlumber
Its consumer unit time. Today I show you the best way i have found how to hide all of the cables coming into the consumer unit and loads of top tips on how to achieve the same effect.
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"Every day's a school day" - loving the attitude - no arrogance here!!👏
Yes thanks buddy you cant know everything and its good to show the reality which is how the channel is 👍👍👍
every day is a learning day even for the professionals . Mike
A really neat board mount and trunking work! One hint from a few UK sparkies - instead of the crappy grommet strip supplied with a lot of CU's, try using rubber edge stripping from Amazon, usually described as "Rubber Edge Trim U Shape Rubber Edge Protective Trim"
when i was in the army sigs corp we used to use 25mm by 20mm trunking and instead of using an end cap we would cut the cover the 20mm longer and cut a v out of the ridges that lock the cover on and bend it to a 90 degree over the end and a little dab of pvc solvent weld ,making sure you don't put any weld near the cables of course , handy if you cant get end caps as the army wouldn't fork out the extra few bob for them. if your ever stuck just an idea.
Lovely work mate. My favourite part of a rewire or board change is making a nice wooden board and/or trunking to do this with 👌🏼
Love it buddy 👊
Nice neat and tidy job as always buddy😎👌👍👍
hello host awesome be careful Greeen hawk thank sfor sharing stay safe and see you around .
Grommet strip. . . you can put the join in the inside middle of each hole, then run a decent amount of tape round, through both holes, holding the strip, and the ends of them in place.
Carry on 😁
Love the tip about using the capping for angles. Large trunking seems so expensive for what it is. Jordan from Artisan Electrics had a tip of using car door protector as grommet. Much thicker and harder to pull off.
Lovely touch with the band strap, I put grommet strip on the two bottom/ furthest sides of the knockout, bottom left and right I find thats the least likely place I’m gonna get cables rubbing… done a great job mate
A great job, honestly presented with some good tips, well done!
Unless you try things you will never know how things work. As in doing commercial or industrial work. Along with the equipment that’s goes with it as in scissor lift etc it’s all about the individual. Loverly work as usual 😎
Awesome video Mike! Going to get myself one of those tools for the angles, brilliant idea buddy! Keep up the good work
Some fantastic tips here! Loving the use of the scribe!
Cheers matey simple but effective 👊
Good job mate
I never realized you are dyslexic, I am too! I have a terrible short term and working memory and hate working under pressure. Concentration span is not too great either and tracing cables I find realy hard work at times. Working out an unknown circuit can take me longer than other sparks thats for sure! Time managment is a bit of a problem to me aswell. However.......I do find it has some advantages. Im quite good at aplying building regs and knowing when you can sensibly depart from wiring regs. I subcontract for a swimming pool specialist spark a lot who has an electrical engineering degree. His wiring, fault finding and electrical theory is absolubtly outstanding but hes not too good at knowing what regs can be sensibly departed from in certain situations. Some of his work looks like a dogs dinner but is always fully compliant, jmust untidy. Im quite anal about how stuff looks as well as functions.....oval capping is not a thing! Oval conduit is but capping is a flat cap which goes over a cable. Loads of people seem to get that wrong. Not that it matters!! Fuck it, ive actualy subscribed to you and I never subscribe to anyone. There are some channels on here where people are so full of themselvs and slate other peoples slightly untidy work a lot which you dont. The world aint perfect and not every install will be!!
Been watching your channel for a while now and find it amazing at some of the stuff I’ve picked up from you I’m just wondering if possible if you would be able to do a small video regarding pricing as I’ve started up on my own recently and struggling a little with pricing side of things look forward to your next videos mate take care and stay safe
Brilliant mate.
Looks nice man
Good video. I enjoyed watching it.
Lovely job of preparing the board your a credit to the industry
thanks buddy👊
Nice one... I put a piece of white gaffer tape over all 4 sides of the grommet strip to hold it and it will never come off... 👍
I'm binge watching your videos and really enjoying them. One friendly reminder - PLEASE wear hearing protection. I've seen too many people with hearing loss from tool use. It all adds up and you can't get back what you've lost... Also good for showing best practice to the apprentices.... Please excuse my "rant" .cheers
Breathing that smoke from the multiool is pretty bad too. Recommend the blades with the bigger teeth - they shoot through the material much easier albeit they are pricier.
Totaly agree with you! I know plumbers who can wire s and Y plans off by heart with no diagram but couldnt wire a lighting circuit if their life depended on it!! You just get used to what you do. Some sparks such as myself are fairly crap at reading complex digrams. You just know how a circuit functions and work it out in your head. I used consumer unit world a few years back and they rarely had Wylex stuff in stock. Other stuff was always there and found them pretty good value. Some grommet strips are terrible, i put tape over the strip usualy to hold it in place. If you cut the holes in the wood slightly smaller than the metal cutout you can toss the grommet in the bin as there are no sharp edges remaining which could chafe cable sheathing. Lewden have the best solution ive found for grommets, ,makes CU completely fireproof aswell. If you want to go fully by the book those big holes in the back with CU mounted on a combustable wooden board would be considered a potential fire hazzard id say......Saying that, it could be a non-combustable MDF like they have in service head cabinates, looks the same size and shape. Gread vid as always!
The board this is fitted on is non combustible type mate 👍
I use tile backer or hardie backer board. Nice and simple to score and cut to size. If you place the batterns just behind the CU fixing points. You can either screw into them or through them into the board. Penny washers placed into steel conduit threaded joints also work well to make the CU sit proud from the wall. Be sure to use fire rated foam to ensure the fire rating isn't compromised.
Coming from a plumbing and heating background wiring in S/Y and plan plus systems I don't find so daunting. When I was an apprentice opening up wiring centres confused the f'k outta me. A jungle of tanhled wires. Orange and grey are the trace wires and the others are grouped into CPC, line, switched line and permanent line.
Excellent upload buddy, keep them comin' 🙏🏼👍
Nice work
Cracking video thanks
Nice video Mike - Hope you've got the polish ready to remove the fingerprints on the chrome. We've done loads of stuff on S-plan wiring etc We've made a handy wiring diagram if you are using a wago heating junction box. PB is right - the valves wiring code is fixed.
worst of it was that we had already 2nd fixed the ground floor then the client changed there mind to switch for the chrome😢.
Defiantly glad that i have rewired the heating controls as its defiantly good to step out of the comfort zone, I will check out your s plan videos buddy👊
Another good video mate 👍,
Would it be wise to cut the holes in the board (chip board) just a bit smaller than the knock out in dis board, that way will also keep the cables away from the metal knock outs and stop pressure on grommet strip 🤔, just an idea .
Nice job mate,... I like the style
Glad you like it
Grommit strip ...
Do u have link ...(brand )
that is high quality 🤔
Very neat workmanship
That Pablo chap is a quick worker.
Rapid 😆
Nice trunking work.
Thanks 👍
Great video, some useful tips. Would you fit an emergency light above the consumer unit and a smoke alarm with it being under the stairs?
Funny you say that but when we go back for the garage rewire we are going to be fitting lighting under the stairs so watch this space 👍
Nice vid mate, I look forward to watching a few more. I’ve just started my own TH-cam channel. What’s you process do you just record everyday and then select what you want to up load? Or do you pick and choose the jobs/videos in advance?
Congrats on your new channel best bit of advice I was given was record what you find interesting but it’s better to get content out that you would watch than something that bores you 👍 all the best with it and enjoy
Good video bro! Just subbed
Top man 👍
Nice💪
Thanks 🔥
If you strip out mem tpn you can use door grommet strip for db ,s
Use solvent Weald (waste pipe glue) on the grommet strip before putting it around the knockouts and it sets solid so you can pull cables through without the strip being caught and having to try put it back around with a nest of cables in your way. Rubber car door edge is better than grommet strip in my opinion if you’d ever wanna try something new🤷🏻 bites down and holds without any need of glue or tape.
I have been given some to try but still haven’t given it a go yet 👊
Very nice install and trunking work. Just wondered why you put mcbs/rcbo's in decending order from isolator. This is how i was taught back in the day but do you not think the highest load s will be hottest and having maybe cooker,shower next to isolator when could be segregated.But perhaps doesn't look as good. What's your thoughts ?
The way manufactures pre fab boards gives an Idea of how a CU should be assembled. I leave in gaps blanks between to help dissipate and residual heat if I can. Highest load descending next to the main switch. This gives the client to easily have amendments made to the CU without having to move and test existing circuits.
Fantastic cuts and way you have executed this video and the install of board and trunking. Your pride 100% in your workman ship👍
I wouldn't have bothered with strapping in the trunking in a broom cupboard.
why not?
@@GreenHawkConstructionltd Not an escape route and even if it was, the slack on the cables would not have hindered access through the door. (certainly from what i could see from the video although i appreciate it was a little compact in there!)
Escape room or not, it should be done. The Gas meter is within that area. If emergency services or anyone else have to isolate in the event of a fire. They could potentially come in harms way.
@@rayc1503 Wrong. But i'll let you work out why.
If the latest regs require a metal consumer unit to avoid fire risk wouldn’t it also be a good idea to use a fireproof material for the mounting panel?
It’s a fire retardant board buddy 👍
@@GreenHawkConstructionltd Good move, thanks for confirming!
Watching you multi tool the backboard made my ears hurt. Ear plugs or ear defenders needed especially in that small cupboard. Your hearing will thank you!
thank you, for showing me, but I also need, a power breaker, as the installer, comes, and finds British gas, has put, a note, is not safe, you need, to change it, that is eDf energy, to supply and put smart meter,
What is that piece of wood you placed the DB on called?
@@jackreacher3632 Thanks
Why did you not use the top entery points on the consumer unit ? Fix the consumer unit to the wall .
To be honest with you i prefer it this way and also which you probably cant see there is another cable that goes behind the board and down to a socket 👍
What size is the box trunking there buddy.
If I remember right it’s 100mm x 50mm
so does Artem electrises and nick bundy and cjr
Hi, what size grommet strips do you use?
Normally the one that comes with fuse box 👍
I've seen you can buy lengths of grommet strips but they come in different sizes. I'm not sure which size i would need. I thought you just had lengths.
Do you use anything yo keep bending together stop it opening up cheers good video by the way
if i hired a spark and it took them 20mins to fix a board to the wall id put the main fuse back in myself
That checkout code seems to be not working anymore btw
I never touch heating controls either mate.
I completely understand
9:41 - “i do heat controls in my sleep” 🙄🙄🙄🙄 great! Well done 🥱😴 want a cookie or a Mars bar? 😂😂🤣😂🤣
What?
@@GreenHawkConstructionltd I mean.. when people say that 😂🤣😅🤣 that’s my response to them,.,
Bit of Sarcasm… offer the a choice of prize - a cookie or a Mars bar….
😅🤣😂🤣
@@GreenHawkConstructionltd it winds me up when people say things like that 😂🤣🤣 so I was agreeing with you
@@kimmythesparks oh I get you now 👍
I must admit I am always puzzled why, people have Chrome accessories and spots, why do people want to draw attention to these items, white accessories are less obtrusive.
With the heating wiring, it's not so much the wiring of it, as most are y plan or s plan on your standard houses and the wiring diagrams are easy to follow, the key is knowing how the system works for fault finding and wiring systems where there's no diagrams, like on larger houses where you will have multiple under floor heating boxes, radiator zones, secondary return hot water, swimming pools etc.
Heating wiring is a headache for lots of electricians…..I jumped in and had a go when I was an apprentice as most of the qualified sparks didn’t want to know and was the best way to learn!
Understanding the principles of how the heating system needs to work you’re wiring definitely helps as you say.
I enjoy the challenge of bigger systems now, but I’ll be honest it has taken years to build up first hand experience of lots of scenarios/systems.
Learn how a 2/3 port valve works/is wired along with thermostat wiring and you’re ok for most systems 👍🏼
@@davecowan9466 yeah your right, I have been doing new build since the late 80's where they were always 3 port valves, now they seem to be all s plan, plus I used to contract to British gas, so I don't mind doing them, and the latest job I am doing has a few UF boxes, several valves, two boilers, pool, spa, separate coach house and a load of pumps, but the principles are still the same, only difference is I need a few relays to stop back feeds.
One tip, do all your lives, neutrals and earth's first, that way if you get it wrong it won't go bang, just won't work as it should
@@acelectricalsecurity Agreed, I’ll always connect the live/neutrals and earths in wiring centres first…..gets rid of so many cables for a start then you can concentrate on what’s switched by what…..it’s the number of different connections that stump people I think, a matter of breaking it down into smaller sections/circuits and it’s suddenly much simpler!
Some big systems are proper head scratchers for sure, and it’s not work that can be rushed.
@@davecowan9466 👍
good to know buddy to be honest its very rare I even offer to do them😀
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Great, let’s mount a non combustible consumer unit on a combustible back board.Why go to the time and effort when you can buy a purpose built metal mounting patterns from genuine consumer unit manufacturers for about £15.