I didn't notice until watching video after uploading (while TH-cam was processing it) that capacitor C3 (time 4:47) on the Compaq board appears to be missing. That may explain some of the problems, but I don't think it explains all of them. What the heck capacitor values should be used to replace them?!?
Looks like it's not populated on the only picture of the same board on the retro web (search for 143320-001). What you're seeing with the keyboard dropping out suggests there's a short or other fault there. Perhaps that round disc which should be a resetting fuse, isn't passing sufficient current now. Basically, trace the 5v pin on the PS/2 kb connector and see if it's getting 5 volts, perhaps a component in the way is broken / shorting. You've already cleaned with vinegar but it still looks pretty bad in that area so maybe try a harder brush. Try breaking off the soldermask that's darkened as that may have avoided the vinegar bath. Beyond that I'd start checking traces and put fresh solder and flux onto the bad looking solder areas to make sure they're conducting. The pictures I can find of the 4/33 aren't great but if you search on the totalgeekdom website you'll see another prolinea with a similar board which might help for reference.
The Compaqs of that age do have a nice look too them. I'm just bummed that I couldn't get that one working. I still have it, so I'll eventually take another swing at it.
I really enjoy your videos. More than i do from the average tech TH-camr i watch. Theres just something about you that makes your videos so fun and interesting to watch, just the excitement you show, the emotion, the way you explain things it just makes me want to know more everytime! Remember that video you made about slot CPUs? I watched that entire video till the very last second. Hope to see more from you soon.
Good to see you back and happy birthday. No worries for us, we'll be here even if you are late ;-) Worried about those keyboards. Are they dead? Please check the voltage that feeds the keyboard (and the two other lines) on the board connector !!!
I've tried both keyboards on two other computers, and there are no signs of life from them. I'm bummed about the Digital keyboard... but at least I don't have to clean the HP keyboard now! :) When I get back to that Compaq, I'm going to check all the voltages and the signals (with an oscilloscope) on that keyboard connector. It's all very... weird.
i have been working on my VLB DX2-66 machine, a PCI DX4-100, a Pentium 75 packard bell, a Pentium 100 SiS chipset based machine, a Pentium MMX 166 machine, a IBM Thinkpad 760EL, and a Pentium 3 Slot 1 machine
@@TalesofWeirdStuff the varta on the 486 board did leak but it damaged only a couple traces, and there was a bit of corrosion on the nimh connector in the 760EL but not too bad, keyboard and trackpoint work nicely. my other 486 board, a PCI one was less lucky, that one got drenched in acid and was completely dead due to that.
@@TalesofWeirdStuff i did end up using the 760EL to restore my 760C (keyboard, ESS 1688F, and screen) since i wanted a 90MHz P1 thinkpad for a DOS 6.22 laptop, since my Thinkpad 560 has the same specs.
Life's that way sometimes. I had a book published that sat at the top of its Amazon category for 2 weeks, in the midst of some terrible life drama. I'm actually thankful they cancelled each other out, because the lows could have been so much lower.
100%. There were a few moments in the middle of all of it where I stopped and thought, "This is a great moment. Remember this moment." That's really what my "remember the good stuff" line is all about. In the middle of terrible times, there are good times too. If you don't make an effort to remember the good, when you look back on it years later, you'll only have the bad. And that, I can say without hesitation, SUCKS. :(
Not sure. Based on age... the Compaq probably has lead, but the VP3 motherboard could be either way. I haven't heard the phrase "plug-n-pray" in a long, long time. Lol
I'm not particularly attached to it. I just keep forgetting to find something different. What I really want... I'll probably have to find someone to make for me. Either a chiptune version of "Entry of the Gladiators" or a chiptune Shepard tone (sound that always sounds like it's getting faster). Looking through the songs available to creators on TH-cam is... very tedious. :(
I had never heard of desoldering alloy. That seems like it might have helped. From a quick search, it looks like most of the uses are for SMD desoldering. I'll do some more research, and I might be adding that to my kit. Thanks!
@@TalesofWeirdStuff dude I use it for through hole soldering all the time in my repair shop. 247-remalloy and chipquick rem45-nl. adding a good board warmer under it set to 120 degrees can help too if its really stuck in there while you use the alloy.
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I didn't notice until watching video after uploading (while TH-cam was processing it) that capacitor C3 (time 4:47) on the Compaq board appears to be missing. That may explain some of the problems, but I don't think it explains all of them. What the heck capacitor values should be used to replace them?!?
Looks like it's not populated on the only picture of the same board on the retro web (search for 143320-001). What you're seeing with the keyboard dropping out suggests there's a short or other fault there. Perhaps that round disc which should be a resetting fuse, isn't passing sufficient current now.
Basically, trace the 5v pin on the PS/2 kb connector and see if it's getting 5 volts, perhaps a component in the way is broken / shorting.
You've already cleaned with vinegar but it still looks pretty bad in that area so maybe try a harder brush. Try breaking off the soldermask that's darkened as that may have avoided the vinegar bath. Beyond that I'd start checking traces and put fresh solder and flux onto the bad looking solder areas to make sure they're conducting.
The pictures I can find of the 4/33 aren't great but if you search on the totalgeekdom website you'll see another prolinea with a similar board which might help for reference.
Happy Birthday to you, really nice seeing you restoring these old systems.🎉
These 486 compaqs look so nice.
The Compaqs of that age do have a nice look too them. I'm just bummed that I couldn't get that one working. I still have it, so I'll eventually take another swing at it.
I really enjoy your videos. More than i do from the average tech TH-camr i watch. Theres just something about you that makes your videos so fun and interesting to watch, just the excitement you show, the emotion, the way you explain things it just makes me want to know more everytime! Remember that video you made about slot CPUs? I watched that entire video till the very last second. Hope to see more from you soon.
Thanks! I try to keep things light and fun. I do get frustrated sometimes... and I usually edit out any "spicy" language that might come out.
Something about the clicking sound of old hard drives comforts me...
Me too... up to a point. Eventually it just sounds like endless waiting. Lol.
The most eerie recapping session I have ever witnessed :D
...and the most frustrating recapping session I've ever done. I cut out quite a bit of "spicy language." :)
love your vids pal there funny and i learn things so thank you for the content
I'm glad you enjoy them. :)
@@TalesofWeirdStuff im looking forword to ur next vid ive watched every1 of ur vids i binged watched them lol
Good to see you back and happy birthday. No worries for us, we'll be here even if you are late ;-) Worried about those keyboards. Are they dead? Please check the voltage that feeds the keyboard (and the two other lines) on the board connector !!!
I've tried both keyboards on two other computers, and there are no signs of life from them. I'm bummed about the Digital keyboard... but at least I don't have to clean the HP keyboard now! :) When I get back to that Compaq, I'm going to check all the voltages and the signals (with an oscilloscope) on that keyboard connector. It's all very... weird.
i have been working on my VLB DX2-66 machine, a PCI DX4-100, a Pentium 75 packard bell, a Pentium 100 SiS chipset based machine, a Pentium MMX 166 machine, a IBM Thinkpad 760EL, and a Pentium 3 Slot 1 machine
You've been busy! Hopefully you got the batteries out of all of them before it was too late.
@@TalesofWeirdStuff the varta on the 486 board did leak but it damaged only a couple traces, and there was a bit of corrosion on the nimh connector in the 760EL but not too bad, keyboard and trackpoint work nicely. my other 486 board, a PCI one was less lucky, that one got drenched in acid and was completely dead due to that.
@@TalesofWeirdStuff i did end up using the 760EL to restore my 760C (keyboard, ESS 1688F, and screen) since i wanted a 90MHz P1 thinkpad for a DOS 6.22 laptop, since my Thinkpad 560 has the same specs.
Life's that way sometimes. I had a book published that sat at the top of its Amazon category for 2 weeks, in the midst of some terrible life drama. I'm actually thankful they cancelled each other out, because the lows could have been so much lower.
100%. There were a few moments in the middle of all of it where I stopped and thought, "This is a great moment. Remember this moment." That's really what my "remember the good stuff" line is all about. In the middle of terrible times, there are good times too. If you don't make an effort to remember the good, when you look back on it years later, you'll only have the bad. And that, I can say without hesitation, SUCKS. :(
Happy Birthday!
Thank you! Even though it was a TON of work, the party was a lot of fun.
That "Vorp Vorp" hardrive lol
Once I got to editing, I noticed that the sound didn't come through very well. Next time I'll have to remember to move the mic a little closer.
@@TalesofWeirdStuff I could hear it quite well.
Were those pads lead-free solder? I hate going behind that stuff with lead/tin solder.
Yeah, Plug-n-Play in WinME is more like Plug-n-Pray!
Not sure. Based on age... the Compaq probably has lead, but the VP3 motherboard could be either way. I haven't heard the phrase "plug-n-pray" in a long, long time. Lol
I don't get your choice of "music" for the sped up footage. Do you like that? It's very monotonous drum loop - no notes, let alone musical movement.
I'm not particularly attached to it. I just keep forgetting to find something different. What I really want... I'll probably have to find someone to make for me. Either a chiptune version of "Entry of the Gladiators" or a chiptune Shepard tone (sound that always sounds like it's getting faster). Looking through the songs available to creators on TH-cam is... very tedious. :(
why aren't you using desoldering alloy if you are having that much trouble?
I had never heard of desoldering alloy. That seems like it might have helped. From a quick search, it looks like most of the uses are for SMD desoldering. I'll do some more research, and I might be adding that to my kit. Thanks!
@@TalesofWeirdStuff dude I use it for through hole soldering all the time in my repair shop. 247-remalloy and chipquick rem45-nl. adding a good board warmer under it set to 120 degrees can help too if its really stuck in there while you use the alloy.