Say what you will about the Clooney cameo, I just find it hilarious that they banished Ezra Miller to the Clooney-verse. That's some divine punishment right there.
Keaton mentioning that Gotham is safe now and generally being satisfied with his life’s work is such a small detail but so appreciated. I didn’t want to see another Last Jedi situation where all Batman’s life’s work was just a pointless failure
@@logandelaharpe6362Yeah, I think this is the only Batman we've seen that wasn't up against a hopeless battle against crime. I was actually happy to see a Batman achieve the promise he gave to his parents.
Keaton Batman officially most successful onscreen film Batman now. He got rid of major systemic crime in Gotham making it one of the safest cities. Retired for years and only came out of retirement to fight a planetary level threat with a depowered meta, a fledgling meta and a sun starved alien who they had to rescue vs an army of Kryptonians. Batman zero craps given about the odds once he got his joy for the struggle back.
Seeing him smile in the mirror when he was patching his arm up absolutely warmed my heart up. Took me back to being a kid ❤️ But on that note, I wonder if it was the thrill or maybe memories of Alfred patching him up in the early years that made him happy in that moment.
Retired, but clearly made sure to keep his equipment and vehicles constantly updated and continued training. In case he was ever needed again. Probably would still periodically do something to remind the scum that he's still there.
I’ve always wanted to see this kinda Batman in a movie. A justice league Batman using ridiculous gadgets and vehicles against big threats instead of street thugs
In fairness the “I’m something of a scientist myself” line felt natural in the conversation that was being had about helping to send everyone back. The “let’s get nuts” line Keaton just said out loud nobody was talking it was stupid
Not to mention that the line had gained new life in meme culture, so more people in newer generations had knowledge of it, and it wasn’t spoiled in trailers.
I do think it's better than the scientist line, just bc modern culture hasn't ruined the "let's get nuts" line for me yet. To me it sounds like something batman would say to hype up the youngins
Keaton's Batman was not the batman i grew up with, didn't watch it before, so didn't had any memberberries effect. But I have to say, he is great in the role, pity that he was removed for George Clooney in the final scene, Keaton definitely earned his keep with this movie, and I hope to see more of him in the future.
"I'm something of a scientist myself" is something Norman would actually say. He _is_ a scientist, he's trying to be humble, and the line referenced the meme. And I think that's the biggest upside of No Way Home, it was self-aware. It was able to take itself seriously when it needed to while still able to laugh at itself when it was actually funny.
Like, people forget how campy the raimi Spider-Man movies were (I mean raimi is literally an 80s horror director, camp is all he knows), it makes sense that a character from that movie would carry that on spiritually. I mean, they weren't wrong when they said tobey looked like a cool youth pastor
I knew even from the first trailer that Keaton’s Batman would steal the show(as he was the only reason I wanted to see the film) and he did not disappoint and he stole the show for me! Edit: the Only way I’d want Keaton to return is for a Batman Beyond movie!
Absolutely, are you okay with this being the conclusion to the Keaton Batman arc? I know Keaton shot an alternate ending where he shows up at the end, alive and well, setting more appearances. But WB didn't use it. Personally I'm okay with this being his end.
I had a different read on the Clooney ending - I took it as a joke, sort of like the ending of the time travelling toaster episode of The Simpsons. "Eh, close enough." The fact that it is the least popular movie Batman, who is also a massive star in his own right, is part of the joke.
7:20-7:27 I understand what you're saying, but the reason that they're playing the animated X-Men Theme instead of the John Ottman Theme is because in Multiverse of Madness Patrick Stewart wasn't playing the Charles Xavier from Fox's old X-Men franchise that died in Logan, but instead a variant of Xavier that was meant to look like the Xavier from the animated X-Men show.
I think it makes sense that Keaton’s Batman would be more mobile/agile in the new iteration. Like Bale Batman, he would always be improving the armor and making it more functional. “You want to be able to turn your head”.
I saw that flash film with Michael keaton batman in it and I know no spoilers but all I can say is at even at the age of 71 your never too old to be a superhero
Since you die on the hill about your thing, I’ll die on the hill about Keaton’s “Let’s get nuts line.” Besides he improved that line so take it up with him.
I’m so glad Keaton got show he’s still got the moves Also for the “somthing of a scientist myself” line, i think it works for people is Because it fits in the context of the scene,like anyone who is a scientist like Norman could say it and it would make sense as a line, I think!?!? I got no idea really but that’s my take
This movie was fantastic for me. Keaton got the perfect Batman fight scene. Supergirl was fantastic. Ben affleck had a short cameo but was meaningful. Flash and Ezra (although in RL an asshole) provided a ton of emotion. This movie does show WHY Keaton deserves a Batman beyond film. He plays an older Batman perfectly.
You are spot on. Except for Batman saying, "Let's get nuts". To you it's a throw away line from 30 years ago. To this Batman and mostly American Music fans it's a callback to the song "Let's go Crazy" by Prince. The point of the verse and the line are that we only get one life so take your shot no matter how crazy or nuts it may seem. You can't please everyone. So for you the line is worthless. But for Batman/ Prince fans it means everything.
The director said the horrible rendering was done on purpose to show The Flashes' point of view. I believe him since they had so much time to work on the movie, but I think it was a bad decision.
I had thought it was something like this, because they rendered the snapshots of the timeline the same way within the "time bubble". It's like you can't see the full detail of the timeline or universe until you step into it. It doesn't exactly look nice since they look like low detail renders, but it's certainly a choice.
9:20, It should be noted Norman was attempting to convince Peter to release him from his mystical jail cell to help him make cures for the supervillains, while also displaying that as nice as he may attempt to come off as, he can’t help but let slip some hints of his ego. There’s a reason for the line being said in the context of the film, even if it is also an obvious, “in your face” reference.
I kinda like that they also don't just kill him off in a sad way, because he just gets reset back to his universe. That means if this is the end of Keaton, it's satisfying, but if they want to bring him back again then they can and give him some more stuff.
My favorite performance in the movie was Supergirl. If shes the Supergirl going forward, im looking forward to her movie. The Flash overall was messy but fun
Yes, I agree. The actress for Supergirl, Sasha really nailed it!👍 But overall for me, it was Keatons Batman , supergirl and Flash/Ezras humor made the movie Great and fun to watch.
I mean she wasn't bad but she wasn't great. Could be my bias against the writing talking though, so I guess I'm neutral towards the whole thing. I also kinda doubt she'll be supergirl going forward or at the least she wouldn't make much sense, as with Keaton it's heavily implied that this isn't the same universe so her being cast again isn't necessary and the move to a new cinematic universe heavily implies everyone is getting recast
I finally watched The Flash two days ago and I can confidently say that Keaton was the biggest hype moment for me. Seeing him emerge and don the cape once more was a mighty spectacle to behold. After all these years, Keaton's still got it. Though, I am ever so slightly annoyed we never got to see the original ending with him. 😑
Taking away the CGI, this movie was pretty emotional at its core. Found myself tearing up a few times (Keaton saying Barry brought him back and Barry's "I loved you first" to his mom at the end). Really hoping they bring back Keaton and Sasha, they were amazing, Ezra also had his moments but if rumors are true he will learn to behave in public after talking with Clooney on set.
Honestly the CGI was so bad that I kept having to gasp and putting my hands in my face every other CGI shot. The family story is honestly gorgeous but it is just distracted by horrid effects that completely take me out of it. Me and my friend honestly laughed. For me the best part of the film was genuinely Batman. Keaton was incredible in the film and Affleck’s action scene genuinely got me so excited.
I get why everyone including yourself are knocking on the cgi fx used during the multiverse bits but i guess it flew right over everybody's heads so i may as well explain it. It looked the way it did bcos it was done so in a way in the pov of Barry Allen seeing he is FAST he percieves things much faster than the normal person and views these glimpses of people as he's running back through time they look right out of a theme park as fake looking bcos theyre seen from Barry's pov as he is flashing back using the speed force. It was a deliberate visual choice to show how barry sees people when he goes n does flash type of things. Im not even a comic expert n i knew what they were going for. But yeh keep whining about the 'cgi' bcos 'hur durrrr the fx look sheeit hur hur durrrrrrr'.🙄
They've announced Peacemaker Season 2 after Superman Legacy recently so there's that. Can't wait! This movie was a mixed bag but Keaton was the frickin man. I'm excited to rewatch his Duology and then this one. I think No Way Home actually used them better; they had arches that added weight to their movies better and I don't know about this one. Clooney was a fun surprise for me. I legitimately didn't see that coming. But yeah the other ending would've been better.
i think the line "you wanna get nuts, lets get nuts" made sense because he's now fighting alongside two guys who are the same person and can run faster than the speed of light and a god against a bunch of other gods. even for him, who had to fight the clown prince of crime and the pinguin, this was on a whole new level. so for me the line made sense
WB totally wasted Michael Keaton and a perfect opprtunity to do Batman Beyond. The rest of the cameos were uncalled for and spoiled by the trailers. After watching the trailers you've seen what you need to see of The Flash.
I loved seeing Reeves., West, the Superman that never was finally fight that Spider etc with Reeves especially it felt like a tribute to all of DC Cinema up till this point and since this project was orginally gonna serve as the movie that would give the DCEU a soft reboot while keeping the most successful things about the universe but is now a farewell to it in a lot of ways a multiverse tribute to DC films from the first shared DC cinematic universe timeline felt right. My biggest issue is what you touch on: I would have been fine with a Clooney cameo but they should have had Keaton at the end. This movie shows how much he could still do. Both as a veteran version of his Batman and a Batman I feel could perfectly introduce the Bat Family on the big screen at last. It doesn't need to be linked to the DCU but I don't accept that this is where his story should end. Just because the initial Batgirl project fell apart there can't be any long term plans for him? Not only could he easily be used to introduce Nightwing etc but Burton's Batman did inspire TAS I think it would be fantastic if Keaton got some new Solo projects then like his animated counterpart the late great Kevin Conroy he could finally pave the way for a live action Batman Beyond. Also, instead of Barry having somehow removed Batfleck from his universe the replacement is fittingly the second Batman he met and fought with instead of a version he has never known and carries nowhere near the fanboy weight as the veteran Batman we spent the movie with. . Please give us more Keaton
At 5:53, how the hell are people even bitching about Bat-Keaton's new suit? This modern upgrade of Keaton's old suits is probably a top 3 live action suit!
To be fair I loved the Nicholas cage cameo…. However (and this is a big however) you need to watch a particular interview with Kevin smith to understand this amazing inside joke. Basically Kevin smith was signed on to write a script for the Superman movie starring nic cage, and the producer didn’t care about what Kevin wanted and exclusively wanted a massive spider at the end of the movie. This scene was poking fun at that. And it’s so god damn good
I have to disagree about Batman at the end of his career. He says Gotham is so low on crime, the city didn’t need him? Made no sense. Gotham is supposed to be the most corrupt, crime filled, and straight evil. Burton’s universe is not comic accurate, but still I don’t buy it. Only reason I can figure is maybe Keaton murdered so many criminals including all of his rouge gallery, there was no one left or anyone brave enough to take him on. Tim Burtons Batman was a cold blooded murder at points in his films. We should of gotten a quick funny montage of Keaton killing all of his iconic villains, but made to look like they would of if they were in a Tim Burton Batman sequel. Would of been great.
Keaton MADE that movie. It was fun as it was, but once he was in it, he stole the show. I loved every minute of Keaton Batman…I really wish we could get an old man Batman movie with him…a solo flick…he would kill in it.
Hey Full Fat Videos, the reason why they say these "lame" lines (wanna get nuts) is because they want to pull out the nostalgic strings for the fans. You can't be so picky when it comes to this. It is a necessary compliment to relate to the fans all those years ago.
People loved that moment from the Goblin because it made sense. He helped Peter making the cures, before turning into the evil Goblin and beating the heck out of Peter, to the point he killes May. Know your facts before hating on something.
It's a good movie. 7.5 out of 10. The effects are okay but the plot was good. Michael Keaton is fantastic as Batman and super girl was great, Erza Miller was great. The movie will make u cry if u got ur own personal family moments that u can relate to.
I don't know you guys but in my opinion it's also very likely that Keaton's Batman along with Supergirl Street haven't died either but resurrected as theoretically the mature Barry (and not the young Barry) again he altered the timeline by arranging some things in the past with the tomato can so that it returned a little to normal, As the mature Barry told the young Barry that the only way to save them both was to let Barry's mother die by leaving how things as intended and thus probably making Michael Keaton's Batman back to his land alive And making Supergirl return back to the capsule where she was locked but also alive and making the contacts that had with Flash never happened. It’s just a theory of mine, nothing more.
The "something of a scientist" scene works because he is offering help as a scientist, when they actually need one, and those kids didnt have any possible way of knowing that
I’m gonna be honest… I seriously could not care less if characters portrayed by actors who are currently dead are re-created for a movie. Seriously, no one bats an eye when an archaeologist digs up an actual corpse to study, but re-create a CGI character portrayed by an actor who passed away without even touching their grave and EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS! It’s stupid.
Well for one thing I think it’s weird because you’re trying to evoke something that you cannot capture unless the person is there. It’s never entertaining to me; I’d rather they just recast Tarkin or Luke Skywalker
@@FullFatVideos I’ll agree Luke in his own series should be recast. I know I’d love Sebastian Stan in the role, but I actually was perfectly fine with the CGI Tarkin in Rogue One. Heck, I was OK with deepfake Luke in Mando Season 2 (Season 1 was iffy, but I enjoyed it). In the Hobbit, though Billy Connolly isn’t dead, the CGI version of him was fine, too. But the ethics of it I think is something that’s basically a non-issue for me. Do better rendering the characters, sure, but I don’t care about the ethics of it. It’s just something else for people to get offended about when they really don’t need to be.
I’ll be the lone person to say I loved the Clooney cameo; Batman and Robin was the first Batman movie I saw and I loved it growing up so I’ve always had a soft spot for his Batman so yeah I liked the inclusion
Why didn’t Keaton Batman clap Vicki and Catwoman’s cheeks after Batman returns? Gotham is Safe, Bruce is Healthy and Alfred would’ve most definitely had Bruce settle down before Passing away.
why did they kill keaton? He could have been in Batman Beyond!!! and he could have been the mastermind behind the multiverses working together with supergirl!! But NO! WB HAD TO RUIN IT ALL BY KILLING BOTH OF THEM!
For me the main difference between the scientist line and the lets get nuts line is that it wasn't there for laughs, it was there for trailers. I don't believe that the scientist line was in any trailers, so when he said it in film it got a good chuckle, which was the intention. I don't think there WAS any intention with the nuts line, it was just there to check off a box of "this is what popular character said." Idk maybe I'm just salty that the movie felt too heavy on references over character.
I’ve got a feeling that if the movie wasn’t delayed and was actually released last year and before James Gunn came in then I think we definitely would’ve gotten the ending with Keaton and Supergirl returning at the end of the movie
@@FullFatVideos Well yeah, had to let you know about your sins against Keaton. As a member of The Unofficial Michael Keaton Academy of Getting Nuts, I cannot tolerate removing a LETS GET NUTS line
The most jarring thing about the Clooney cameo, at least for me, was the very underwhelming outfit he was wearing. Affleck’s outfit was rather good - the suit, coat, shirt, and tie all complemented each other. He certainly has the best (civilian) wardrobe of all live action versions of the character. Likewise, Keaton’s dishevelled appearance at least communicated something about the character, besides later on he wears a somewhat more put together outfit with a neckerchief, which was good to see. Meanwhile, Clooney comes in wearing a ready-to-wear blue suit with slim lapels, an open-necked shirt that doesn’t complement it, suspiciously thick ribbed grey socks, and slip on shoes. That he doesn’t look like Batman is passable, but he doesn’t even look like Bruce Wayne.
The Clooney cameo was perfect. Him not looking like Bruce Wayne is intentional - Clooney played himself in the 97 movie, and here he plays himself again.
I have a big confussion with this film... spoilers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . When Barry let her mother dies also means Keaton's Batman never died since he never met the two Flash? This Zod exist in the Burtonverse? Or it's just a alternative timeline were both Burtonverse and Snyderverse were mixed? With that questions it's a bad thing that the Batgirl tv show was cancelled.
If Zods invasion is a fixed point in time then Keaton's Batman will die but the 2 Flashes wouldnt be there but if it's not then Keaton is at home while Supergirl is in prison or was never sent to Keatons earth in the first place since Flash messed with the timeline which could've brought her there. I personally don't think Zods invasion is a fixed point since it's stated so plainly in the movie that Flash is the reason for the invasion and since Flash goes back and corrects his mistake which led to dark flash existing in the first place he wouldn't have been in Keatons timeline and so the events of the movie will be erased. It's true that Batman was destined to die but that's only if Zod invaded but if he doesn't then Keaton lives. It can go either way which isn't bad since it opens up the potential for future movies and if not at least his Batman has an epic ending.
Loved this, but come on, the let’s get nuts was great! It’s a great throw back to a controversial moment from 89 and kind of gives it new life, and also suggests that it’s something that’s always been in his lingo. Also, the mission (that they’ve finally managed to convince him to take part in) is nuts! It’s practically a suicide mission they have barely any chance of winning, but they do it anyway because they’re hero’s and it’s the right thing to do. It’s like a, “ah fuck it, let’s do it” kind of moment, imho. Great video though 👏👏👏
I didn't mind the "You wanna get nuts" scene. You're right it was out of context, but it could have been solved with a simple line. Batman: taking on gods and aliens? That's nuts Flash: but Batman Batman: alright, you want get nuts? Let's get nuts.
I watched The Flash at a cinema on the last day of it's (very short) premier run in my town...partly because I couldn't believe it was as bad as the critics had made it out to be...and I'm so glad I did. Because I thought it was bloody great! Of course it wasn't the best action hero movie ever made. But it was well worth the price of admission...and the popcorn! I agree with you that the trailers contained way too many spoilers. But silly me for watching every one that came out in the first place. Note to self - don't watch trailers! I actually liked the "let's get nuts" scene. Being old enough to have watched the Keaton batman movies on first release I got a kick out of the nostalgia bits. Great video sir.
All things above, noted ... does anyone else have a problem with Barry restocking the tomato cans to the top shelf when he farewells his Mum, so that his Dad will look up in the security footage, to exonerate him ... yet this is probably why childhood Barry wouldn't have grabbed to can from (the waaay to high) top shelf in the first place ... In the reality that actually had th rest of the Justice League?
did you actually realise what is different about keaton's batman? alfred is gone, either retired or die of old age. and keaton batman has been on his own since and you can tell that from how dusty the house is and how good batkeaton cooking skill has become. there is actually so much story and change to his character that is not really in your face, and you have to really think about it to realise the changes.
Eh. I like this video. But the line about Norman Osborn's "I'm something of a scientist..." being unnecessary is wrong. I know it's a meme line but in the story, he was trying to get his hands on the equipment so he could mess things up.
I got my own ending of what The Flash movie looks like. After fixing the timelines, Barry Allen went back to his now restored own universe but while running, his face and body began to change as he screams in pain(kinda like Doctor Who's regeneration) before he arrive back to his universe with a new face which he recognized as the other Flash aka Grant Gustin's Barry Allen. Despite his shock towards his new appearance, he went to a trial and ends with his father declared innocent. He meets Iris West which to his shock, her face and appearance was also change(Danielle Panabaker aka Caitlin Snow/Frost; she is like quite resemblance of Comic Book Iris West than Candice Patton's Iris West) because of him. In the mid end credits scene we see Barry and Iris dating in the park when Bruce Wayne arrives but instead of George Clooney, it was Christian Bale's Batman/Bruce Wayne and Barry asked: "Who are you?" And Bruce smiled and replied: "I'm Bruce Wayne." Barry's eyes widen and the screen turns black. That would be mindblown.
Say what you will about the Clooney cameo, I just find it hilarious that they banished Ezra Miller to the Clooney-verse. That's some divine punishment right there.
What a great take!!
Oh shit!!😂😂
Hilarious. Still wished they'd kept Keaton and had him be a wise, old mentor to the new heroes they're teasing.
I love this idea 😂
I have a feeling Batfleck was sent to the "Nightmare Universe" when the 2 Barry's fd' up the multi-verse .
Keaton mentioning that Gotham is safe now and generally being satisfied with his life’s work is such a small detail but so appreciated. I didn’t want to see another Last Jedi situation where all Batman’s life’s work was just a pointless failure
We have already seen that it’s Batman beyond
@@logandelaharpe6362Yeah, I think this is the only Batman we've seen that wasn't up against a hopeless battle against crime. I was actually happy to see a Batman achieve the promise he gave to his parents.
Keaton Batman officially most successful onscreen film Batman now. He got rid of major systemic crime in Gotham making it one of the safest cities. Retired for years and only came out of retirement to fight a planetary level threat with a depowered meta, a fledgling meta and a sun starved alien who they had to rescue vs an army of Kryptonians. Batman zero craps given about the odds once he got his joy for the struggle back.
He wanted to get nuts so he got nuts
Seeing him smile in the mirror when he was patching his arm up absolutely warmed my heart up. Took me back to being a kid ❤️
But on that note, I wonder if it was the thrill or maybe memories of Alfred patching him up in the early years that made him happy in that moment.
Retired, but clearly made sure to keep his equipment and vehicles constantly updated and continued training. In case he was ever needed again. Probably would still periodically do something to remind the scum that he's still there.
The Batman fight scenes in this movie were stellar, excited for Andy's take on the Batman
Then why Batfleck's scenes are so cartoony felt like Batfleck from josstice league
Such a massive difference between the two Batman characters on how they operate.
His fight against that Kryptonian monster one of the best batmans' fights actually
@@Roma-sf7jb even the prison fight scenes
I’ve always wanted to see this kinda Batman in a movie. A justice league Batman using ridiculous gadgets and vehicles against big threats instead of street thugs
Yeah it was cool to see Keaton do something he’s never done before
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Yeah, the dude literally took down a Kryptonian
He didnt go schumacher level gadgets or even the burton level. Hes actually fairly light consodering hes fighting kryptonians
This film only solidified to me that Keaton is the best Batman and always will be.
Hell yeah!
I just became fan of Keaton’s batman, he just replaced Christian Bale as my favourite batman.
*Michael Keaton is the batman*
Yeah it cemented him as the definition cinema Batman.
No way
He will go down in history as the best batman
In fairness the “I’m something of a scientist myself” line felt natural in the conversation that was being had about helping to send everyone back. The “let’s get nuts” line Keaton just said out loud nobody was talking it was stupid
I don't really like No Way Home, but the flash gave me so much respect for it 😂
Not to mention that the line had gained new life in meme culture, so more people in newer generations had knowledge of it, and it wasn’t spoiled in trailers.
I do think it's better than the scientist line, just bc modern culture hasn't ruined the "let's get nuts" line for me yet. To me it sounds like something batman would say to hype up the youngins
yeah no that no way home line is cringe af
I completely agree it was hilarious
Keaton's Batman was not the batman i grew up with, didn't watch it before, so didn't had any memberberries effect. But I have to say, he is great in the role, pity that he was removed for George Clooney in the final scene, Keaton definitely earned his keep with this movie, and I hope to see more of him in the future.
Hope you get a chance to watch his Batman films if you havent seen them already.
Wach his batman batman 1989 and batman reterns 1992
Same for me, I loved his performance.
@@cursedcanine8414 am also going to watch 1989 & 1992. I loved his performance in the flash so much.
"I'm something of a scientist myself" is something Norman would actually say. He _is_ a scientist, he's trying to be humble, and the line referenced the meme. And I think that's the biggest upside of No Way Home, it was self-aware. It was able to take itself seriously when it needed to while still able to laugh at itself when it was actually funny.
Like, people forget how campy the raimi Spider-Man movies were (I mean raimi is literally an 80s horror director, camp is all he knows), it makes sense that a character from that movie would carry that on spiritually. I mean, they weren't wrong when they said tobey looked like a cool youth pastor
yeah no its cringe fanservice
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I knew even from the first trailer that Keaton’s Batman would steal the show(as he was the only reason I wanted to see the film) and he did not disappoint and he stole the show for me! Edit: the Only way I’d want Keaton to return is for a Batman Beyond movie!
Imagine how beautiful a Cyberpunk Gotham would look.
@@dimitrescu182 Oh that could look so well provided they don’t borrow the same CG from this film!
@@henrygambles3652 they need to have Blade Runner-like CG
@@dimitrescu182 Yeah Then That would look awesome!
I want to see him do a proper Dark Knight Returns, then Batman Beyond.
In animation, Kevin Conroy will forever be MY Batman. But in live action, there's none I'd rather have than Keaton 😊
Absolutely, are you okay with this being the conclusion to the Keaton Batman arc? I know Keaton shot an alternate ending where he shows up at the end, alive and well, setting more appearances. But WB didn't use it. Personally I'm okay with this being his end.
I had a different read on the Clooney ending - I took it as a joke, sort of like the ending of the time travelling toaster episode of The Simpsons. "Eh, close enough." The fact that it is the least popular movie Batman, who is also a massive star in his own right, is part of the joke.
It definitely got a laugh out of me
Ah the toaster Simpsons Episode, classic
7:20-7:27 I understand what you're saying, but the reason that they're playing the animated X-Men Theme instead of the John Ottman Theme is because in Multiverse of Madness Patrick Stewart wasn't playing the Charles Xavier from Fox's old X-Men franchise that died in Logan, but instead a variant of Xavier that was meant to look like the Xavier from the animated X-Men show.
Bingo.
I think it makes sense that Keaton’s Batman would be more mobile/agile in the new iteration. Like Bale Batman, he would always be improving the armor and making it more functional. “You want to be able to turn your head”.
I saw that flash film with Michael keaton batman in it and I know no spoilers but all I can say is at even at the age of 71 your never too old to be a superhero
Since you die on the hill about your thing, I’ll die on the hill about Keaton’s “Let’s get nuts line.” Besides he improved that line so take it up with him.
I’m so glad Keaton got show he’s still got the moves
Also for the “somthing of a scientist myself” line, i think it works for people is Because it fits in the context of the scene,like anyone who is a scientist like Norman could say it and it would make sense as a line, I think!?!? I got no idea really but that’s my take
I feel Keaton's Bruce is unhinged & says that ‘nuts’ phrase near constantly off-screen
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Getting to see Nicholas Cage play superman, even if it was extremely brief, was surreal to see
This movie was fantastic for me. Keaton got the perfect Batman fight scene. Supergirl was fantastic. Ben affleck had a short cameo but was meaningful. Flash and Ezra (although in RL an asshole) provided a ton of emotion.
This movie does show WHY Keaton deserves a Batman beyond film. He plays an older Batman perfectly.
You are spot on. Except for Batman saying, "Let's get nuts". To you it's a throw away line from 30 years ago. To this Batman and mostly American Music fans it's a callback to the song "Let's go Crazy" by Prince. The point of the verse and the line are that we only get one life so take your shot no matter how crazy or nuts it may seem. You can't please everyone. So for you the line is worthless. But for Batman/ Prince fans it means everything.
Yes!!!! Thats it!
The director said the horrible rendering was done on purpose to show The Flashes' point of view. I believe him since they had so much time to work on the movie, but I think it was a bad decision.
I had thought it was something like this, because they rendered the snapshots of the timeline the same way within the "time bubble". It's like you can't see the full detail of the timeline or universe until you step into it. It doesn't exactly look nice since they look like low detail renders, but it's certainly a choice.
He's bullshitting though. The cgi during the rescue sequence at the beginning was appalling as well.
9:20, It should be noted Norman was attempting to convince Peter to release him from his mystical jail cell to help him make cures for the supervillains, while also displaying that as nice as he may attempt to come off as, he can’t help but let slip some hints of his ego. There’s a reason for the line being said in the context of the film, even if it is also an obvious, “in your face” reference.
Andy Muschietti should make THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. With Michael Keaton as BATMAN.
And then BATMAN BEYOND.
This x10000000%
Oh lord please no more dark knight returns. There are hundreds of Batman stories they could use
You could tell in the scene where Keaton was stitching himself up he was happy to be back. It was clearly an arch getting set up for his return.
Speaking of Barry, this movie could have used a random Bill Hader as the Flash cameo
Norman’s line is a straight up, well publicized meme template. Bruce’s “let’s get nuts” is memorable and memable, but just not the same caliber.
I kinda like that they also don't just kill him off in a sad way, because he just gets reset back to his universe. That means if this is the end of Keaton, it's satisfying, but if they want to bring him back again then they can and give him some more stuff.
My favorite performance in the movie was Supergirl. If shes the Supergirl going forward, im looking forward to her movie. The Flash overall was messy but fun
Nope , it was okay . The best was batman easily
I thought she was an uncharismatic bore.
Yes, I agree. The actress for Supergirl, Sasha really nailed it!👍
But overall for me, it was Keatons Batman , supergirl and Flash/Ezras humor made the movie Great and fun to watch.
I mean she wasn't bad but she wasn't great. Could be my bias against the writing talking though, so I guess I'm neutral towards the whole thing. I also kinda doubt she'll be supergirl going forward or at the least she wouldn't make much sense, as with Keaton it's heavily implied that this isn't the same universe so her being cast again isn't necessary and the move to a new cinematic universe heavily implies everyone is getting recast
I found the blackberry scene in Russia so endearing and adorable. 🔥🦇🔥
I finally watched The Flash two days ago and I can confidently say that Keaton was the biggest hype moment for me. Seeing him emerge and don the cape once more was a mighty spectacle to behold. After all these years, Keaton's still got it.
Though, I am ever so slightly annoyed we never got to see the original ending with him. 😑
"...I could really go for an espresso right now" I laughed aloud lol.
Hahaha
This movie might have been mostly bad, but every scene with Bat-Keaton had me smiling, and delighted to hear Elfmans iconic music again
Taking away the CGI, this movie was pretty emotional at its core. Found myself tearing up a few times (Keaton saying Barry brought him back and Barry's "I loved you first" to his mom at the end). Really hoping they bring back Keaton and Sasha, they were amazing, Ezra also had his moments but if rumors are true he will learn to behave in public after talking with Clooney on set.
Honestly the CGI was so bad that I kept having to gasp and putting my hands in my face every other CGI shot.
The family story is honestly gorgeous but it is just distracted by horrid effects that completely take me out of it. Me and my friend honestly laughed.
For me the best part of the film was genuinely Batman. Keaton was incredible in the film and Affleck’s action scene genuinely got me so excited.
I get why everyone including yourself are knocking on the cgi fx used during the multiverse bits but i guess it flew right over everybody's heads so i may as well explain it.
It looked the way it did bcos it was done so in a way in the pov of Barry Allen seeing he is FAST he percieves things much faster than the normal person and views these glimpses of people as he's running back through time they look right out of a theme park as fake looking bcos theyre seen from Barry's pov as he is flashing back using the speed force. It was a deliberate visual choice to show how barry sees people when he goes n does flash type of things. Im not even a comic expert n i knew what they were going for.
But yeh keep whining about the 'cgi' bcos 'hur durrrr the fx look sheeit hur hur durrrrrrr'.🙄
I loved seeing them show keatons technology kind of evolved with the times
When Norman says "Im something of a scientist of myself" it makes sense in the content of the story "let's gets nuts doesn't"
Simple
Keaton was the best character in the film but really bummed they brought him back just to die
His fight scene in the movies are so badass he up their with Ben batman fight scene in my opinion
They were seriously sweet. Can’t believe Batkeaton took on Zods guys
Keaton kicked so much ass. I absolutely loved him in it. Definitely the most fun ive ever had with a DCEU film.
They've announced Peacemaker Season 2 after Superman Legacy recently so there's that. Can't wait!
This movie was a mixed bag but Keaton was the frickin man. I'm excited to rewatch his Duology and then this one. I think No Way Home actually used them better; they had arches that added weight to their movies better and I don't know about this one.
Clooney was a fun surprise for me. I legitimately didn't see that coming. But yeah the other ending would've been better.
i think the line "you wanna get nuts, lets get nuts" made sense because he's now fighting alongside two guys who are the same person and can run faster than the speed of light and a god against a bunch of other gods. even for him, who had to fight the clown prince of crime and the pinguin, this was on a whole new level. so for me the line made sense
On an unrelated note, I'd love to see you do a video essay on the Christopher Reeve Superman films
WB totally wasted Michael Keaton and a perfect opprtunity to do Batman Beyond.
The rest of the cameos were uncalled for and spoiled by the trailers. After watching the trailers you've seen what you need to see of The Flash.
When Gearge appeared i freaked out. im still freaking out. wtf. i was not expecting that and now i cant wait for more.
Don’t really know what more there is going to be now. I doubt Keaton or Clooney will be in the Flash 2, if that even happens in the new DCU
I loved seeing Reeves., West, the Superman that never was finally fight that Spider etc with Reeves especially it felt like a tribute to all of DC Cinema up till this point and since this project was orginally gonna serve as the movie that would give the DCEU a soft reboot while keeping the most successful things about the universe but is now a farewell to it in a lot of ways a multiverse tribute to DC films from the first shared DC cinematic universe timeline felt right. My biggest issue is what you touch on: I would have been fine with a Clooney cameo but they should have had Keaton at the end. This movie shows how much he could still do. Both as a veteran version of his Batman and a Batman I feel could perfectly introduce the Bat Family on the big screen at last. It doesn't need to be linked to the DCU but I don't accept that this is where his story should end. Just because the initial Batgirl project fell apart there can't be any long term plans for him? Not only could he easily be used to introduce Nightwing etc but Burton's Batman did inspire TAS
I think it would be fantastic if Keaton got some new Solo projects then like his animated counterpart the late great Kevin Conroy he could finally pave the way for a live action Batman Beyond. Also, instead of Barry having somehow removed Batfleck from his universe the replacement is fittingly the second Batman he met and fought with instead of a version he has never known and carries nowhere near the fanboy weight as the veteran Batman we spent the movie with. . Please give us more Keaton
Only one true Batman. Michael Keaton. He epitomized Wayne and the Bat unlike any before him and those who followed, or those who will.
At 5:53, how the hell are people even bitching about Bat-Keaton's new suit? This modern upgrade of Keaton's old suits is probably a top 3 live action suit!
That final cameo absolutely killed me 😫
Glad I stayed away from the trailers
Keaton stole the show, Nicholas Cage’s Superman was the most shocking, and General Zod is always a badass.
To be fair I loved the Nicholas cage cameo…. However (and this is a big however) you need to watch a particular interview with Kevin smith to understand this amazing inside joke. Basically Kevin smith was signed on to write a script for the Superman movie starring nic cage, and the producer didn’t care about what Kevin wanted and exclusively wanted a massive spider at the end of the movie. This scene was poking fun at that. And it’s so god damn good
I love seeing Michael Keaton as Batman return in this movie. I hope we get one more movie with just him and maybe even Burton directing.
Since Barry 1 reset the time-line Keaton-Bat is still alive.
I have to disagree about Batman at the end of his career. He says Gotham is so low on crime, the city didn’t need him? Made no sense. Gotham is supposed to be the most corrupt, crime filled, and straight evil. Burton’s universe is not comic accurate, but still I don’t buy it.
Only reason I can figure is maybe Keaton murdered so many criminals including all of his rouge gallery, there was no one left or anyone brave enough to take him on. Tim Burtons Batman was a cold blooded murder at points in his films.
We should of gotten a quick funny montage of Keaton killing all of his iconic villains, but made to look like they would of if they were in a Tim Burton Batman sequel. Would of been great.
Keaton MADE that movie. It was fun as it was, but once he was in it, he stole the show. I loved every minute of Keaton Batman…I really wish we could get an old man Batman movie with him…a solo flick…he would kill in it.
Hey Full Fat Videos, the reason why they say these "lame" lines (wanna get nuts) is because they want to pull out the nostalgic strings for the fans. You can't be so picky when it comes to this. It is a necessary compliment to relate to the fans all those years ago.
Danny Elfman's BATMAN theme is the definitive BATMAN theme like John Williams' SUPERMAN theme is the Definitive SUPERMAN theme.
So you're gonna do a video on Barry, right? (Please, the series doesn't get enough love)
This movie has given me a totally different outlook on Keatons bats. Goat
They really should have given Keaton his own movie for his return though
Should have been Christian Bale instead of Clooney
Actually that would have been neat, Clooney just came across as awkwardly funny
That's what we all said
Well then people would want to see more of Batbale. The whole point is that they're scrapping this universe
People loved that moment from the Goblin because it made sense. He helped Peter making the cures, before turning into the evil Goblin and beating the heck out of Peter, to the point he killes May. Know your facts before hating on something.
It's a good movie. 7.5 out of 10. The effects are okay but the plot was good. Michael Keaton is fantastic as Batman and super girl was great, Erza Miller was great. The movie will make u cry if u got ur own personal family moments that u can relate to.
I don't know you guys but in my opinion it's also very likely that Keaton's Batman along with Supergirl Street haven't died either but resurrected as theoretically the mature Barry (and not the young Barry) again he altered the timeline by arranging some things in the past with the tomato can so that it returned a little to normal, As the mature Barry told the young Barry that the only way to save them both was to let Barry's mother die by leaving how things as intended and thus probably making Michael Keaton's Batman back to his land alive And making Supergirl return back to the capsule where she was locked but also alive and making the contacts that had with Flash never happened. It’s just a theory of mine, nothing more.
The "something of a scientist" scene works because he is offering help as a scientist, when they actually need one, and those kids didnt have any possible way of knowing that
I’m gonna be honest… I seriously could not care less if characters portrayed by actors who are currently dead are re-created for a movie. Seriously, no one bats an eye when an archaeologist digs up an actual corpse to study, but re-create a CGI character portrayed by an actor who passed away without even touching their grave and EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS! It’s stupid.
Well for one thing I think it’s weird because you’re trying to evoke something that you cannot capture unless the person is there. It’s never entertaining to me; I’d rather they just recast Tarkin or Luke Skywalker
@@FullFatVideos I’ll agree Luke in his own series should be recast. I know I’d love Sebastian Stan in the role, but I actually was perfectly fine with the CGI Tarkin in Rogue One. Heck, I was OK with deepfake Luke in Mando Season 2 (Season 1 was iffy, but I enjoyed it). In the Hobbit, though Billy Connolly isn’t dead, the CGI version of him was fine, too.
But the ethics of it I think is something that’s basically a non-issue for me. Do better rendering the characters, sure, but I don’t care about the ethics of it. It’s just something else for people to get offended about when they really don’t need to be.
@@FullFatVideos the Tarkin one was weird, because the voice immediately sounded off even before you saw the rubbery CGI Tarkin zombie
Jesus they’re actually dead walking former actors? I thought Keaton would be the only nostalgia bait. 😪 wtf I’ve got no words.
Why couldn’t we get the version like the animated movie with Gal vs Jason
I'm watching this movie because of Andy Muschietti
I love when horror directors make superhero movies
James Wan directed Aquaman.
Offtopic he also did one of the FnF movies with cgi Brian. And i think he did star trek 3.
@@nicktubara that's Justin Lin
@@LeonardoKlotz did a quick search just to be sure, James Wan did furious 7 then aquaman n the upcoming sequel.
I’ll be the lone person to say I loved the Clooney cameo; Batman and Robin was the first Batman movie I saw and I loved it growing up so I’ve always had a soft spot for his Batman so yeah I liked the inclusion
I came home from the movie last nite, I loved seeing Clooney. I went to bed wondering how Kilmers Batman is doing in his universe.
Why didn’t Keaton Batman clap Vicki and Catwoman’s cheeks after Batman returns? Gotham is Safe, Bruce is Healthy and Alfred would’ve most definitely had Bruce settle down before Passing away.
Maybe he never found her
Clooney's return was in my opinion just an irl shitpost. And tbh I'd have done the same.
4:07 i genuinely love this revalation.
why did they kill keaton? He could have been in Batman Beyond!!! and he could have been the mastermind behind the multiverses working together with supergirl!! But NO! WB HAD TO RUIN IT ALL BY KILLING BOTH OF THEM!
For me the main difference between the scientist line and the lets get nuts line is that it wasn't there for laughs, it was there for trailers. I don't believe that the scientist line was in any trailers, so when he said it in film it got a good chuckle, which was the intention. I don't think there WAS any intention with the nuts line, it was just there to check off a box of "this is what popular character said." Idk maybe I'm just salty that the movie felt too heavy on references over character.
I’ve got a feeling that if the movie wasn’t delayed and was actually released last year and before James Gunn came in then I think we definitely would’ve gotten the ending with Keaton and Supergirl returning at the end of the movie
Had to turn the video off after you said to take out the “Let’s get nuts” line.
Not before commenting though lmao
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Well yeah, had to let you know about your sins against Keaton. As a member of The Unofficial Michael Keaton Academy of Getting Nuts, I cannot tolerate removing a LETS GET NUTS line
It’s a sad day for film criticism when people switch off the second they’re given an opinion they disagree with
@@FullFatVideos brother it’s a JOKE 😂
It's pretty obvious to me that it's a joke, and i'm on the spectrum🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I liked seeing Michael Keaton back in the Batman suit
I really didn't like The Flash, but Michael Keaton as Batman was easily the highlight of the film for me.
The most jarring thing about the Clooney cameo, at least for me, was the very underwhelming outfit he was wearing.
Affleck’s outfit was rather good - the suit, coat, shirt, and tie all complemented each other. He certainly has the best (civilian) wardrobe of all live action versions of the character.
Likewise, Keaton’s dishevelled appearance at least communicated something about the character, besides later on he wears a somewhat more put together outfit with a neckerchief, which was good to see.
Meanwhile, Clooney comes in wearing a ready-to-wear blue suit with slim lapels, an open-necked shirt that doesn’t complement it, suspiciously thick ribbed grey socks, and slip on shoes. That he doesn’t look like Batman is passable, but he doesn’t even look like Bruce Wayne.
The Clooney cameo was perfect. Him not looking like Bruce Wayne is intentional - Clooney played himself in the 97 movie, and here he plays himself again.
When will we get a new dr who vid?
Dunno got a few ideas but haven’t had the enthusiasm lately
Amazing fighting Keaton was amazing
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When Barry let her mother dies also means Keaton's Batman never died since he never met the two Flash?
This Zod exist in the Burtonverse? Or it's just a alternative timeline were both Burtonverse and Snyderverse were mixed?
With that questions it's a bad thing that the Batgirl tv show was cancelled.
If Zods invasion is a fixed point in time then Keaton's Batman will die but the 2 Flashes wouldnt be there but if it's not then Keaton is at home while Supergirl is in prison or was never sent to Keatons earth in the first place since Flash messed with the timeline which could've brought her there. I personally don't think Zods invasion is a fixed point since it's stated so plainly in the movie that Flash is the reason for the invasion and since Flash goes back and corrects his mistake which led to dark flash existing in the first place he wouldn't have been in Keatons timeline and so the events of the movie will be erased. It's true that Batman was destined to die but that's only if Zod invaded but if he doesn't then Keaton lives. It can go either way which isn't bad since it opens up the potential for future movies and if not at least his Batman has an epic ending.
Loved this, but come on, the let’s get nuts was great! It’s a great throw back to a controversial moment from 89 and kind of gives it new life, and also suggests that it’s something that’s always been in his lingo. Also, the mission (that they’ve finally managed to convince him to take part in) is nuts! It’s practically a suicide mission they have barely any chance of winning, but they do it anyway because they’re hero’s and it’s the right thing to do. It’s like a, “ah fuck it, let’s do it” kind of moment, imho. Great video though 👏👏👏
I don’t care what anyone says…. Keatons bat mobile is the greatest of all time…. It is what it is….
i've never been much of a fan tbh. just looks so immobile, like those sports cars that cant clear tiny ramps
It really broke my heart that my favorite batman didn't survive. I hated it.
they need to let a version of him make batman beyond.
I gotta say it's a little annoying when everyone talking about Ezra saying they and their but that's just my 33 year old brain talking...
I didn't mind the "You wanna get nuts" scene. You're right it was out of context, but it could have been solved with a simple line.
Batman: taking on gods and aliens? That's nuts
Flash: but Batman
Batman: alright, you want get nuts? Let's get nuts.
I always wondered how the suit was suppose to be bullet proof, and in Batman Returns, Bruce was able to rip it off.
I watched The Flash at a cinema on the last day of it's (very short) premier run in my town...partly because I couldn't believe it was as bad as the critics had made it out to be...and I'm so glad I did. Because I thought it was bloody great! Of course it wasn't the best action hero movie ever made. But it was well worth the price of admission...and the popcorn!
I agree with you that the trailers contained way too many spoilers. But silly me for watching every one that came out in the first place. Note to self - don't watch trailers!
I actually liked the "let's get nuts" scene. Being old enough to have watched the Keaton batman movies on first release I got a kick out of the nostalgia bits. Great video sir.
Keaton was so fantastic in this movie
He owned
@@FullFatVideos indeed :)
i work at a resturaunt, and every once in a while, i say "you wanna get nuts? lets get nuts" (we serve mixed nuts)
All things above, noted ... does anyone else have a problem with Barry restocking the tomato cans to the top shelf when he farewells his Mum, so that his Dad will look up in the security footage, to exonerate him ... yet this is probably why childhood Barry wouldn't have grabbed to can from (the waaay to high) top shelf in the first place ... In the reality that actually had th rest of the Justice League?
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did you actually realise what is different about keaton's batman? alfred is gone, either retired or die of old age. and keaton batman has been on his own since and you can tell that from how dusty the house is and how good batkeaton cooking skill has become. there is actually so much story and change to his character that is not really in your face, and you have to really think about it to realise the changes.
You’re right about the Let’s get nuts line. Of course it could’ve been used later on during the Kryptonion fight scene.
You're one of the few video essayists I disagree with quite frequently, but still have respect for. Thanks for not being a dick lol
Eh. I like this video. But the line about Norman Osborn's "I'm something of a scientist..." being unnecessary is wrong. I know it's a meme line but in the story, he was trying to get his hands on the equipment so he could mess things up.
That’s true but he could have said any combinations of words to convey that without giving into the meme
@@FullFatVideos Why?
I got my own ending of what The Flash movie looks like.
After fixing the timelines, Barry Allen went back to his now restored own universe but while running, his face and body began to change as he screams in pain(kinda like Doctor Who's regeneration) before he arrive back to his universe with a new face which he recognized as the other Flash aka Grant Gustin's Barry Allen. Despite his shock towards his new appearance, he went to a trial and ends with his father declared innocent. He meets Iris West which to his shock, her face and appearance was also change(Danielle Panabaker aka Caitlin Snow/Frost; she is like quite resemblance of Comic Book Iris West than Candice Patton's Iris West) because of him.
In the mid end credits scene we see Barry and Iris dating in the park when Bruce Wayne arrives but instead of George Clooney, it was Christian Bale's Batman/Bruce Wayne and Barry asked: "Who are you?" And Bruce smiled and replied: "I'm Bruce Wayne." Barry's eyes widen and the screen turns black.
That would be mindblown.
This movie did Michael Keaton's Batman dirty. We just need a legit Batman 3