Have sat and watched almost 2hrs straight of vidoes from you guys. 2nd comment I've made and this is whats on tv at my house....my household loves anything that launches from shoulder fired artillery to bb guns. I only wish there was somehwere in my area that had such a great long range to shoot at as much as the company of men that appreciates it as well. Many thanks from me and mine as we are a subscriber now to this channel. One last thing to say...my wife wants a shiloh sharps almost as bad as i do. God bless this country i love.
If they ever do a replica of Jack Hinson's .50 calibre civil war sniper rifle. This is the guy to shoot it on this channel. The resulting footage would be truly awesome 👏 and a lovely 😊 tribute to Jack Hinson.
I took one of my biggest whitetails with the 45 /70 government round..... Took 2 305 grain bullets behind the shoulder and made it 50 yards..... What a stud of a whitetail.......... By the way, I'm sure glad your on my side sir..... You're shooting is amazing.
I wish I could afford a Sharps rifle, but I picked up an original 1879 Remington Rolling Block Argentine for a quarter the cost of a Sharps (would gladly buy a Sharps if I had the funds) in .43 Spanish with an amazing bore and rifling. I plan on working with it and getting some loads developed soon.
Bayan1905 oh look who it is. I see who you have been ripping off in all your videos. This guy makes quality videos, please be original and stop ripping off his material for the three viewers you have. 👎👎
Which front sight did you put on your rifle and what did it replace? Really enjoy your videos. I've always enjoyed shooting long range. I was a sniper in Vietnam, my shooting experiences as a youth were very valuable there.
You guys wouldn't happen to have a Facebook page would you? I'm new to this shooting discipline. I'm looking for as much information as possible about this type of shooting. Thanks for any and all info
Just a little tip, guys on the shiloh forums suggest against 120. Apparently its really hard to get accuracy and it hurts, obviously do your own research to figure out what you like but I always see guys just recommending dropping down to the .45-110
In your opinion what is the best tang sight for shooting from 100-600 yards? I just picked up a new Taylor's down under rifle and I'm looking to start shooting long range with it. Thanks for the help. Love watching you videos!
I'm looking at buying a Pedersoli Sharps in 45-70, very new to them, I notice in your 45-70 videos that you shoot smokeless, at least that's what it looks like, do you use trapdoor loads or the loads for modern lever guns like Henry and Marlin?
Thats the same rifle setup I have Very helpful to watch the whole process. What kind of bullet do you recommend for starting towards competition? Thank you! 🤠
Hey there Rich -- I'd try several different weights to see which your rifle shoots the best. Work through your loading manual for loads. 350 to 500 grain bullets have worked well for me in this rifle. Keep experimenting and good luck!
There are ballistic calculators online and phone apps that if you know your velocity (in your rifle, not what is printed on the box), bullet weight, ballistic coefficient , etc and you have a known zero at some range you can get pretty close at other ranges. Typically you'll have to dial it in, especially at longer ranges as your settings will be different for the same range depending on the direction you are shooting due to rotation of the earth. Then there is wind direction and intensity... the point being is there is no substitute for getting reps with your rifle in a variety of conditions.
The Montana Vintage Arms sights would be my choice. The quality, repeatability and ease of precision adjustment will get you on target. For targets beyond 1,000 yards I'd choose one of the "Long Range" tall staff variants. Out to 1,000 yards the "Mid-Range" variants will likely suffice. Front sights are a personal choice. For our varying windy conditions a simple post works better as it does not obscure the target while holding off for wind drift. A globe does aid in precision but can limit hold off and/or require more windage adjustment in the sights at longer ranges. It really boils down to choosing the sight that best suits your conditions, needs and abilities.
Can you please tell me when your looking thru the rear site..are you lining up the front sight (center) within the circle. A buddy and I were out shooting his this past weekend and were a bit confused on how to line up the rear aperture with the front blade?? Thanks!!!
Hey, sorta a weird question but I've found myself in an odd situation. I've recently purchased a h&r buffalo classic where someone inlet a perdersoli tang sight into the stock. Seems super interesting, and I'd like to learn to shoot with this style sight, but I have zero experience with vernier sights in general. Any advice for someone just getting started?
@@ericc3327 It really isn't that much different. The tang sight just gives you a wider range of adjustment. The best thing to do is get to the range and zero the rifle. If you are starting from scratch start close. 25 yards - 50 yards. Note the settings, then work your way out. If you know your load's velocity and BC you can extrapolate sight settings out to as far as your sight staff is tall. It'll get you close enough to dial in the zero without spending a lot of ammo walking it in.
Typically we go with one load for most of our shooting, though that may take several iterations to develop and refine. Occasionally we develop different loads for Hunting, softer shooting loads to introduce new shooters and/or economy plinking loads. These sights are easy to adjust and if you note the sight settings it is simple to change settings for different ranges and loads.
Just for reference. Do guys use the shotgun/ pistol powders instead of the slower rifle powder the books show for most of the black powder cartrigages? and do you cast your own bullets? just watching the recoil on the rifle your loads aren't to beefed up
What do you folks think of the Pedersoli vs Shiloh and C Sharps. Are the Italian guns bigger, clunkier in their dimensions, not as accurate? Is it a case of 'save up more $ and get the real deal' or, buy the Pedersoli and have at it? You guys would know first hand with years of side by side comparisons.
The Italian rifles perform very well and I would not pass one up if I was in the market. They are a good value and a lot easier to come by. I would NOT describe them as clunkier. Like Cars and Guitars refinement beyond a certain point comes at a price. Shilohs are great rifles and hold their value. I've not detected any difference in Grin Intensity after a distant hit.
@@SagebrushLongshots just to butt in....i size my slugs to groove dia. And they shoot very well but I use strictly black powder....when I use my creedmore paper patch load my finished patched bullet dia. Is at least .001 UNDER bore dia. Sometimes .002...sounds crazy huh...but again that's just with black powder...smokless changes everything...PS..with these diameters I group just a hair under MOA...
@@usualsuspect5173 Great points Steve. There really isn't a one size fits all recommendation with all of the variables. My answer was lazy but it is a starting point that tends to work more times than not for us. The truth is revealed on the target and as far as I know there ain't no shortcut to load development, it needs trigger time and repeatable results. Thanks for weighing in.
Both are very nice rifles. The Shiloh is a notch, sometimes two higher in fit and finish. Shiloh rifles seem to be more consistent rifle to rifle based on the examples of both we've had rotate through here. Both ring dingers.
@@SagebrushLongshots I have a Creedmore long range sight on the way from Brownells to put on my Sharps 1874 reproduction . Do these come with instructions on how to use them or is it something you figure out as you use it? Thank you for the response. My shooting has been mostly Precision Bolt guns, AR ‘s , and M1 Garand type rifles . This type of Rifle is new to me but I find the Sharps lots of fun to shoot. I shot it with the front ladder sight but its not really as precise as I would like . Thanks for responding. I liked your video by the way👍
@@1987foxl90 I'm not certain if instructions will accompany the sight but your experience with the M1 sights should get you on the right track. Where the MOA readings are most helpful is with a load and a sight setting for a known distance you can use a ballistic calculator to get you pretty close at targets at various ranges. Saves ammo and gets you grinning faster.
Great stuff ! Got a question -- What is that short stool I see a lot of your shooters use ? It's square and looks like it's adjustable. Maybe 10 inches high ? (Not the tripod seat you are sitting on here) The guy at the very beginning of this >>> video is sitting on one >>> th-cam.com/video/DcnHhOVKC6I/w-d-xo.html
Have sat and watched almost 2hrs straight of vidoes from you guys.
2nd comment I've made and this is whats on tv at my house....my household loves anything that launches from shoulder fired artillery to bb guns.
I only wish there was somehwere in my area that had such a great long range to shoot at as much as the company of men that appreciates it as well.
Many thanks from me and mine as we are a subscriber now to this channel.
One last thing to say...my wife wants a shiloh sharps almost as bad as i do.
God bless this country i love.
Thank you, gentlemen! I always get a smile on my face when I watch your videos, and when I hear that "ding!"...
I love echo across the hills
Very enjoyable video. That looked like a lot of fun. Thank you for posting.
If they ever do a replica of Jack Hinson's .50 calibre civil war sniper rifle. This is the guy to shoot it on this channel. The resulting footage would be truly awesome 👏 and a lovely 😊 tribute to Jack Hinson.
Love watching your videos! I learn so much from you. Sure wish I had a place to shoot like that!
Nice Shooting Wind, thanks for taking the time to explain this.
Yeah! New vid. Thanks!
Simple and nice. Thanks.
I took one of my biggest whitetails with the 45 /70 government round..... Took 2 305 grain bullets behind the shoulder and made it 50 yards..... What a stud of a whitetail.......... By the way, I'm sure glad your on my side sir..... You're shooting is amazing.
Hopefully I'll have one of those soon. Great shooting!!!!!!
RIP Wind. Always keep my Okanogon shooting sticks close.
RIP.
I wish I could afford a Sharps rifle, but I picked up an original 1879 Remington Rolling Block Argentine for a quarter the cost of a Sharps (would gladly buy a Sharps if I had the funds) in .43 Spanish with an amazing bore and rifling. I plan on working with it and getting some loads developed soon.
Bayan1905 oh look who it is. I see who you have been ripping off in all your videos. This guy makes quality videos, please be original and stop ripping off his material for the three viewers you have. 👎👎
Which front sight did you put on your rifle and what did it replace? Really enjoy your videos. I've always enjoyed shooting long range. I was a sniper in Vietnam, my shooting experiences as a youth were very valuable there.
I have always loved the sharps and your vids let me see one in action, thank you
You guys wouldn't happen to have a Facebook page would you? I'm new to this shooting discipline. I'm looking for as much information as possible about this type of shooting. Thanks for any and all info
One of these days I will have a 45-120 a great rifle for a buffalo hunt in Utah
Just a little tip, guys on the shiloh forums suggest against 120. Apparently its really hard to get accuracy and it hurts, obviously do your own research to figure out what you like but I always see guys just recommending dropping down to the .45-110
In your opinion what is the best tang sight for shooting from 100-600 yards? I just picked up a new Taylor's down under rifle and I'm looking to start shooting long range with it.
Thanks for the help. Love watching you videos!
The MVA #108 would be a good choice. Plenty of tang to go farther or use sedate loads within those ranges.
Agreed, just put a MVA Buffalo Soule sight on mine with the model 113 front.
I'm looking at buying a Pedersoli Sharps in 45-70, very new to them, I notice in your 45-70 videos that you shoot smokeless, at least that's what it looks like, do you use trapdoor loads or the loads for modern lever guns like Henry and Marlin?
Trapdoor loads are what we use.
@@SagebrushLongshots you recommend 405 grain trapdoor for the load
Thats the same rifle setup I have Very helpful to watch the whole process. What kind of bullet do you recommend for starting towards competition? Thank you! 🤠
Hey there Rich -- I'd try several different weights to see which your rifle shoots the best. Work through your loading manual for loads. 350 to 500 grain bullets have worked well for me in this rifle. Keep experimenting and good luck!
Is there anywhere I could read up on figure out the math to find out how much elevation is needed to change? Great videos!
There are ballistic calculators online and phone apps that if you know your velocity (in your rifle, not what is printed on the box), bullet weight, ballistic coefficient , etc and you have a known zero at some range you can get pretty close at other ranges. Typically you'll have to dial it in, especially at longer ranges as your settings will be different for the same range depending on the direction you are shooting due to rotation of the earth. Then there is wind direction and intensity... the point being is there is no substitute for getting reps with your rifle in a variety of conditions.
I have a 1874 sharps made by Taylor and Co with a 32in barrel chambered in 45-120 what sights do you think would work best thank you
What sort of distances are you looking to shoot? How good are your eyes? Hard to go wrong with anything MVA makes.
The Montana Vintage Arms sights would be my choice. The quality, repeatability and ease of precision adjustment will get you on target. For targets beyond 1,000 yards I'd choose one of the "Long Range" tall staff variants. Out to 1,000 yards the "Mid-Range" variants will likely suffice. Front sights are a personal choice. For our varying windy conditions a simple post works better as it does not obscure the target while holding off for wind drift. A globe does aid in precision but can limit hold off and/or require more windage adjustment in the sights at longer ranges. It really boils down to choosing the sight that best suits your conditions, needs and abilities.
Can you please tell me when your looking thru the rear site..are you lining up the front sight (center) within the circle. A buddy and I were out shooting his this past weekend and were a bit confused on how to line up the rear aperture with the front blade?? Thanks!!!
We put the top of the front sight blade right in the middle of the aperture.
What size are your gongs at 100, 200 and 300 yards? Thx for the new vid.
Vary by the array but typically 3-6 MOA.
Hey, sorta a weird question but I've found myself in an odd situation. I've recently purchased a h&r buffalo classic where someone inlet a perdersoli tang sight into the stock. Seems super interesting, and I'd like to learn to shoot with this style sight, but I have zero experience with vernier sights in general. Any advice for someone just getting started?
Have you ever used any sort of peep sight?
@@SagebrushLongshots simple versions on levers (skinner, xs style etc), but that’s it.
@@ericc3327 It really isn't that much different. The tang sight just gives you a wider range of adjustment.
The best thing to do is get to the range and zero the rifle. If you are starting from scratch start close. 25 yards - 50 yards. Note the settings, then work your way out. If you know your load's velocity and BC you can extrapolate sight settings out to as far as your sight staff is tall. It'll get you close enough to dial in the zero without spending a lot of ammo walking it in.
@@SagebrushLongshots much appreciated, thanks!
Do you use different loads or stick with one load? If you do use different loads, do you re-zero for each load?
Typically we go with one load for most of our shooting, though that may take several iterations to develop and refine. Occasionally we develop different loads for Hunting, softer shooting loads to introduce new shooters and/or economy plinking loads. These sights are easy to adjust and if you note the sight settings it is simple to change settings for different ranges and loads.
Just for reference. Do guys use the shotgun/ pistol powders instead of the slower rifle powder the books show for most of the black powder cartrigages? and do you cast your own bullets? just watching the recoil on the rifle your loads aren't to beefed up
Sometimes, but not in this video. We use both home cast and commercially available cast bullets.
What is your load. And numbers on your sight setting ?
I want that firearm where did you order that at. And do you make your own lead or buy
Love your shooting sticks...where did you get them?
They are currently out of production. Here is an option th-cam.com/video/8Ih-E8xlJk0/w-d-xo.html
@@SagebrushLongshots Thank you! Looks like something I should be able to do.
What do you folks think of the Pedersoli vs Shiloh and C Sharps. Are the Italian guns bigger, clunkier in their dimensions, not as accurate? Is it a case of 'save up more $ and get the real deal' or, buy the Pedersoli and have at it? You guys would know first hand with years of side by side comparisons.
The Italian rifles perform very well and I would not pass one up if I was in the market. They are a good value and a lot easier to come by. I would NOT describe them as clunkier. Like Cars and Guitars refinement beyond a certain point comes at a price. Shilohs are great rifles and hold their value. I've not detected any difference in Grin Intensity after a distant hit.
@@SagebrushLongshots Thanks so much. You're right, I forgot about the grin factor. 👍😊
my pedersoli 45-70 long range rifle come in tomorrow! what diameter bullet casting mold are you using to cast your bullets? .458, .458?
It varies rifle to rifle. We slug the bores and then go .001" over.
@@SagebrushLongshots just to butt in....i size my slugs to groove dia. And they shoot very well but I use strictly black powder....when I use my creedmore paper patch load my finished patched bullet dia. Is at least .001 UNDER bore dia. Sometimes .002...sounds crazy huh...but again that's just with black powder...smokless changes everything...PS..with these diameters I group just a hair under MOA...
@@usualsuspect5173 Great points Steve. There really isn't a one size fits all recommendation with all of the variables. My answer was lazy but it is a starting point that tends to work more times than not for us. The truth is revealed on the target and as far as I know there ain't no shortcut to load development, it needs trigger time and repeatable results. Thanks for weighing in.
@@SagebrushLongshots 👌👍
When you cast bullets for it. Do you resize them with a .458 or a .459 resizer?
Usually .001" over bore. Depends on the rifle. Slugging the barrel will get you close and range time will get you dialed in with the load.
@@SagebrushLongshots ah thank you very much!
Good shooting guys . What bullet weight and powder
Unfortunately I don't remember. My guess is that it was 4xx grain over IMR4198.
@@SagebrushLongshots i use h4198 in my marlins my sharps i use imr 4198
@@SagebrushLongshots i have been using 480 grain postel spire point
@@SagebrushLongshots pedersoli says 29000 cup what the old winchester 1886 was rated for
@@wilmamcdermott3065 That may have been what he was using in the video. Possibly the Buffalo Arms "Money" bullet.
How does the pedersoli compare to the shiloh?
Both are very nice rifles. The Shiloh is a notch, sometimes two higher in fit and finish. Shiloh rifles seem to be more consistent rifle to rifle based on the examples of both we've had rotate through here. Both ring dingers.
How do you read minutes of angle on the Pedersoli sight? Does each line represent a minute of angle?
Almost. It is a fraction off but for Iron Sights it is close enough.
@@SagebrushLongshots I have a Creedmore long range sight on the way from Brownells to put on my Sharps 1874 reproduction . Do these come with instructions on how to use them or is it something you figure out as you use it? Thank you for the response. My shooting has been mostly Precision Bolt guns, AR ‘s , and M1 Garand type rifles . This type of Rifle is new to me but I find the Sharps lots of fun to shoot. I shot it with the front ladder sight but its not really as precise as I would like . Thanks for responding. I liked your video by the way👍
@@1987foxl90 I'm not certain if instructions will accompany the sight but your experience with the M1 sights should get you on the right track. Where the MOA readings are most helpful is with a load and a sight setting for a known distance you can use a ballistic calculator to get you pretty close at targets at various ranges. Saves ammo and gets you grinning faster.
Thank you for your help. Can’t wait to get the sight and see what it can do.I am used to using a Ballistic calculator so that will definitely help !
Where can I get some shooting sticks like them your using?
Unfortunately they are no longer in production.
I will make one thanks
This pard did and made a video about it. th-cam.com/video/8Ih-E8xlJk0/w-d-xo.html
Great stuff ! Got a question -- What is that short stool I see a lot of your shooters use ? It's square and looks like it's adjustable.
Maybe 10 inches high ? (Not the tripod seat you are sitting on here) The guy at the very beginning of this >>> video is sitting on one >>> th-cam.com/video/DcnHhOVKC6I/w-d-xo.html
Turkey Stool.
Danke !