As a Graduate Gemologist (GIA) practicing here in the US, I commend your knowledge and verbiage regarding the various diamond cuts set in jewelry seen throughout the Royal Collection and the personal jewels of the Royal Family. And for your viewers who may not know, there exist essentially three diamond cuts: brilliant, step, and mixed. A "brilliant cut" simply means that the shape of the facets on a diamond - those small, flat, polished surfaces - are fashioned in the shape of 3-sided triangles and/or 4-sided kites. The facets on a "step cut" are in the shape of a rectangle or square. Finally, a "mixed cut" stone employs both brilliant and step facets. The modern "radiant" cut diamond developed in the late 1970s is an example of a mixed cut, with step facets on the top, or crown, of the diamond and brilliant cut facets on the bottom, or pavilion. Thanks again, Dr. B., for the extensive research and inclusion of ample photographs and video that you provide in each of your works. Indeed, this Anglophilic American anticipates that before long, certain post nominals will appear in your title, signifying recognition of your excellent work from a grateful nation.
I, too, am a GIA Graduate Gemologist, and while I agree with what DukeOfHaas says about the three basic cuts, I think it might be relevant to note that at least the larger stones in the late Queen Elizabeth II's coronation Great George (the "Marlborough George") appear to be cut in what is commonly referred to as a "rose cut," an older variation of a brilliant cut. I point this out to avoid confusion with modern usage in the jewelry industry of the term "brilliant cut." That latter term is perhaps most associated in the average layperson's mind with specifically round stones that have 57 or 58 facets, depending on whether or not a culet is present and counted. Rose cut stones typically have 24 or fewer facets without a table facet or a pavilion.
@@DesertSkies120 When my fiance asked me what I would like, I "learned" the terms for various diamond shapes: Brilliant (round), Marquis (points at opposite ends), Emerald (rectangle), Pear, Baguette (elongated rectangle, may be slightly tapered) and Princess (square). There are more but I just wanted to add my two cents that it seems to be an industry standard to refer to round diamonds as Brilliant.
@@downtonviewer Partially correct. The industry term "Brilliant cut" does usually reference a cut that is round. But not all round cuts are also brilliant cuts. And the round cut stones in the piece are *not* "Brilliant cut." They are "Rose cut," a cutting style rarely used today and seen mostly in jewelry over 100 years old. "Rose cut" stones are roughly dome shaped with 24 to 36 facets and a large flat (un-faceted) base. "Brilliant cut" is a modern round cut developed in 1919 that has a table facet, a crown of 32 facets, a girdle, a pavilion with 25 to 33 facets, and sometimes a culet facet. "The industry" would never refer to a rose cut stone that happens to be round as a "Brilliant cut." It would always be referred to as a "rose cut."
Just imagine getting dressed for an evening out, and deciding which Lesser George you want to wear tonight....personally I'd go for that beautiful double cameo. Such lovely illustrations, as usual, thank you so much.
I am an avid follower of royal events but have never really noticed the 'Georges' until your excellent videos. I had no idea of their history, nor of their connection to the Garter Insignia. Many thanks, as always, for educating us yet again!
I must admit I have found this subject absolutely facilitating and look forward to more, hopefully with other Orders - the Thistle, the Bath, etc. - in the future, if possible. Many thanks indeed.
Excellent video once again! I've always been fascinated by chivalric orders. I do hope you'll make videos on the insignia of newer orders, especially the Order of St Patrick which I have found difficulty getting information on
You have literally opened my eyes to the Royal Garter insignia Allan. Now I am so better informed when I see the various royals wearing their choice of insignia. Thanks as always.
Somehow I knew, King GeorgelV was going to reset everything with giant diamonds. And I’m better at brooches and tiaras, than these Garter Stars, so thanks. I’ll have to do a bit more research on that double sided Lesser George, with the double sided Cameo. And if Queen Mary had anything done for herself, it was impeccable. How about that BBC doco about the Coronation? Pretty well done, I’d say. Cheers and Happy New Year Allan!
I have seen online that some of Kaiser Wilhelm II’s diamond insignia for the Garter was acquired by King Charles some years ago and that he uses it on a suitable occasions. I will try to hunt it out. Happy New Year and a Happy Orthodox Christmas to you!
I'm always amazed at the sweep of history that can be reflected in these items. For instance, I never knew that Queen Victoria lost the Hanoverian jewels to the King of Hanover. There must be a bigger story there. Where do you get all the images of the various items shown in your videos? Are the images available to the general public?
I didn’t expect to enjoy this as much as I did - thanks so much! It will change how I view the items of jewellery worn. You do a great job presenting these so congratulations.
Thank you for a very interesting video! I had seen that Lesser George you mentioned and often wondered about it but I had no idea it could swivel! Patterson had been lucky enough to get royal permission to photograph some of them for his book. Thank you once again! 👍👍😊😊
I'm a history fan and I love the story about the order of the Garter and I agree with his Majesty who created it Evil to those who think it. Such a wonderful way to save a person's reputation even though it wasn't like that it was an accident and the King saved her reputation.
Is there an explanation of the difference in how gentlemen wear the large blue silk ribbon that at it's end is suspended a "smaller/lesser" George????? Sometime they seem to wear the ribbon up and over the left shoulder, and at other times it seems to cross the chest at a much lesser angle - almost like it will end up going into their armpit area and not over the shoulder at all. Any explanation of this difference, and reason why would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Some holders of Knightly Orders wear a shorter riband with white tie. The riband is attached to the waistcoat and goes from the back below the armpit to just above the waist on the opposite side. The King usually wears his Orders in that way.
I think that the Cardinal Bishop Henry Benedict of Frascati (maybe at Ostia by this stage) left his George to either King George III or the Prince Regent. Perhaps as a thank you to the House of Hanover for helping him financially after he had bailed out the Pope at the French Revolution. I wouldn’t like to claim any further motive, if you see what I mean.
Random q: I find it interesting that we always refer to Queen Consort Queen Elizabeth as 'Queen Consort Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother'.... I understand when simply saying 'Queen Elizabeth' the addition of 'The Queen Mother' is added to ensure a suitable distinction between her, and her Daughter Queen Elizabeth II. However, is it not kinda redundant to add it as the Queen Mother was always Queen Consort, and Queen Elizabeth II was always denoted with II (to different between Queen Elizabeth I)? That is to say is it not obvious that Queen Consort Queen Elizabeth could only refer to a single person who in no way could be confused with Queen Elizabeth II? I just find Queen Consort, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother a weirdly odd mouthful of a title! Just me, not that it matters (it really doesn't) just an observation on the quirk of a title added to differentiate herself from her daughter. Also why did she retain the 'Queen Consort' or Queen title after the death of her husband? As HE was the 'official' King in terms of succession and when he died surely her titles would have move to the next consort in line?
This series is wonderful. I remember seeing a greater ? George done with coloured stones. If memory serves me it was for the first Duke of Wellington. Is it possible for you to go over the Greats in the History of the Garter? I find it interesting who the Monarch picks to be a member of the. They get to pick so few these days.
Paved? It is pah vead. French. Same root word. Pavè is specific for jewelry where it means small stones used to cover an area of metal, usually without visible prongs. Sometimes, in more modern jewelry, the stones are set without prongs, but usually in older pieces the prongs are cleverly hidden. Really enjoyed this piece, as I am an amateur historian of Vctoria and Albert. I wondered what became of his Garter!
I know that non royal knights and ladies of the Garter must return certain pieces of their regalia upon their death. Do you know what happens to those pieces? Are they recycled and given to new knights and ladies? And are there any significant differences between the regalia of normal KG and LG? This series has been fascinating and I hope you continue on with the other orders of knighthood.
All of the standard issue pieces of insignia of the Garter are returned to the Central Chancellery of the Orders of Knighthood in London on the deaths of the holders of the Garter and Thistle. The collar chains of the other orders are returned as well, but the rest of the insignia are personal property.
Im a brazilian airline pilot, and I never miss one of your videos. The UKs culture is magical.
As is Brazil's 😊
Well put calli
So glad you're enjoying my channel! Thanks for watching!
As a Graduate Gemologist (GIA) practicing here in the US, I commend your knowledge and verbiage regarding the various diamond cuts set in jewelry seen throughout the Royal Collection and the personal jewels of the Royal Family. And for your viewers who may not know, there exist essentially three diamond cuts: brilliant, step, and mixed. A "brilliant cut" simply means that the shape of the facets on a diamond - those small, flat, polished surfaces - are fashioned in the shape of 3-sided triangles and/or 4-sided kites. The facets on a "step cut" are in the shape of a rectangle or square. Finally, a "mixed cut" stone employs both brilliant and step facets. The modern "radiant" cut diamond developed in the late 1970s is an example of a mixed cut, with step facets on the top, or crown, of the diamond and brilliant cut facets on the bottom, or pavilion. Thanks again, Dr. B., for the extensive research and inclusion of ample photographs and video that you provide in each of your works. Indeed, this Anglophilic American anticipates that before long, certain post nominals will appear in your title, signifying recognition of your excellent work from a grateful nation.
Thank you, dukeofhaas, for adding fascinating detail to this video!
I, too, am a GIA Graduate Gemologist, and while I agree with what DukeOfHaas says about the three basic cuts, I think it might be relevant to note that at least the larger stones in the late Queen Elizabeth II's coronation Great George (the "Marlborough George") appear to be cut in what is commonly referred to as a "rose cut," an older variation of a brilliant cut. I point this out to avoid confusion with modern usage in the jewelry industry of the term "brilliant cut." That latter term is perhaps most associated in the average layperson's mind with specifically round stones that have 57 or 58 facets, depending on whether or not a culet is present and counted. Rose cut stones typically have 24 or fewer facets without a table facet or a pavilion.
@@DesertSkies120 When my fiance asked me what I would like, I "learned" the terms for various diamond shapes: Brilliant (round), Marquis (points at opposite ends), Emerald (rectangle), Pear, Baguette (elongated rectangle, may be slightly tapered) and Princess (square). There are more but I just wanted to add my two cents that it seems to be an industry standard to refer to round diamonds as Brilliant.
@@downtonviewer Partially correct. The industry term "Brilliant cut" does usually reference a cut that is round. But not all round cuts are also brilliant cuts. And the round cut stones in the piece are *not* "Brilliant cut." They are "Rose cut," a cutting style rarely used today and seen mostly in jewelry over 100 years old. "Rose cut" stones are roughly dome shaped with 24 to 36 facets and a large flat (un-faceted) base. "Brilliant cut" is a modern round cut developed in 1919 that has a table facet, a crown of 32 facets, a girdle, a pavilion with 25 to 33 facets, and sometimes a culet facet. "The industry" would never refer to a rose cut stone that happens to be round as a "Brilliant cut." It would always be referred to as a "rose cut."
The two sided Lesser George is quite interesting. What a great idea.
Fascinating. It’s wonderful that these precious items are still worn & cared for. Thanks again Allan 👏👏
Glad you appreciated this!
Just imagine getting dressed for an evening out, and deciding which Lesser George you want to wear tonight....personally I'd go for that beautiful double cameo. Such lovely illustrations, as usual, thank you so much.
I am an avid follower of royal events but have never really noticed the 'Georges' until your excellent videos. I had no idea of their history, nor of their connection to the Garter Insignia. Many thanks, as always, for educating us yet again!
Glad you appreciated this!
I've got to say that cameo one is stunning -- I love the handcraft inherent in any cameo. Such fussy, exacting work.
Always interesting. Your photographs are excellent. I love close ups of jewellery.
The Great (Marlborough) George is stunning! Of all the Georges, it's the most pleasingly designed, in my opinion. 😊
I must admit I have found this subject absolutely facilitating and look forward to more, hopefully with other Orders - the Thistle, the Bath, etc. - in the future, if possible. Many thanks indeed.
Such a neat interesting video Dr Barton
Thank you 👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
I am really very fasicinated with all to do with the Order of the Garter. Thank you, Allan, for helping me to appreciate this all so much more.
You're very welcome, glad you're enjoying these videos!
Fascinating. Stunning history.
Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Allan! I particularly like the Albert piece.
Fantastic as always!!
Very interesting, Thank You! Happy Boxing Day!
Glad you liked it! All the best for the new year!
Thank you for the interesting information, as always, with your info I learn. As a history major I am alwsys eager to learn.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very cool. I have learned so much about these insignia.
Truly resplendent. Thank you, Allen.
Constantly revolving diamonds.
Excellent video once again! I've always been fascinated by chivalric orders. I do hope you'll make videos on the insignia of newer orders, especially the Order of St Patrick which I have found difficulty getting information on
You have literally opened my eyes to the Royal Garter insignia Allan. Now I am so better informed when I see the various royals wearing their choice of insignia. Thanks as always.
Glad this was helpful!
Splendid and informative video. Thank you and Merry Christmas!
The British people are blessed to have such wonderful traditions.
Thank you for another wonderful video
Glad you enjoyed it!
I always enjoy your videos. Thanks!
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Love these!
This was so fascinating ❤❤
Somehow I knew, King GeorgelV was going to reset everything with giant diamonds. And I’m better at brooches and tiaras, than these Garter Stars, so thanks. I’ll have to do a bit more research on that double sided Lesser George, with the double sided Cameo. And if Queen Mary had anything done for herself, it was impeccable. How about that BBC doco about the Coronation? Pretty well done, I’d say. Cheers and Happy New Year Allan!
R.I.P EIIR.
Long Live His Majesty King Charles the III.
You can do a video history of the Spencer’s and the royal family
I immediately was curious at the King's choice in St. George! I even emailed the Chapel 😂
Really enjoy your videos. I'd be interested in knowing where all of the Orders & Decorations, and uniforms, are stored while not being worn.
Amazing video
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
I have seen online that some of Kaiser Wilhelm II’s diamond insignia for the Garter was acquired by King Charles some years ago and that he uses it on a suitable occasions. I will try to hunt it out.
Happy New Year and a Happy Orthodox Christmas to you!
Here is an article I blogged about the Kaiser’s insignia:
Kaiser Wilhelm II and his Garter Insignia on my blog Once I was a Clever Boy on Jan 29 2021
Thank you! Wonderul video! 😊❤
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
I'm always amazed at the sweep of history that can be reflected in these items. For instance, I never knew that Queen Victoria lost the Hanoverian jewels to the King of Hanover. There must be a bigger story there. Where do you get all the images of the various items shown in your videos? Are the images available to the general public?
I didn’t expect to enjoy this as much as I did - thanks so much! It will change how I view the items of jewellery worn. You do a great job presenting these so congratulations.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for a very interesting video! I had seen that Lesser George you mentioned and often wondered about it but I had no idea it could swivel! Patterson had been lucky enough to get royal permission to photograph some of them for his book. Thank you once again!
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I hope the King names Catherine and Sophie to the Order of the Garter.
I'm a history fan and I love the story about the order of the Garter and I agree with his Majesty who created it Evil to those who think it. Such a wonderful way to save a person's reputation even though it wasn't like that it was an accident and the King saved her reputation.
I once considered myself knowledgeable regarding these pieces. Allen has shown me I knew virtually nothing. 😏
Glad you found it helpful! 😊
British Monarchy. 💪👑♥️🇬🇧⚜️😇✊️👍🫶👏🙏🏼🤲🤝
Is there an explanation of the difference in how gentlemen wear the large blue silk ribbon that at it's end is suspended a "smaller/lesser" George????? Sometime they seem to wear the ribbon up and over the left shoulder, and at other times it seems to cross the chest at a much lesser angle - almost like it will end up going into their armpit area and not over the shoulder at all. Any explanation of this difference, and reason why would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Some holders of Knightly Orders wear a shorter riband with white tie. The riband is attached to the waistcoat and goes from the back below the armpit to just above the waist on the opposite side. The King usually wears his Orders in that way.
I think that the Cardinal Bishop Henry Benedict of Frascati (maybe at Ostia by this stage) left his George to either King George III or the Prince Regent.
Perhaps as a thank you to the House of Hanover for helping him financially after he had bailed out the Pope at the French Revolution. I wouldn’t like to claim any further motive, if you see what I mean.
And the bling isn't that bad.😲🤯😋🤤❤️
Random q: I find it interesting that we always refer to Queen Consort Queen Elizabeth as 'Queen Consort Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother'....
I understand when simply saying 'Queen Elizabeth' the addition of 'The Queen Mother' is added to ensure a suitable distinction between her, and her Daughter Queen Elizabeth II.
However, is it not kinda redundant to add it as the Queen Mother was always Queen Consort, and Queen Elizabeth II was always denoted with II (to different between Queen Elizabeth I)?
That is to say is it not obvious that Queen Consort Queen Elizabeth could only refer to a single person who in no way could be confused with Queen Elizabeth II?
I just find Queen Consort, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother a weirdly odd mouthful of a title!
Just me, not that it matters (it really doesn't) just an observation on the quirk of a title added to differentiate herself from her daughter.
Also why did she retain the 'Queen Consort' or Queen title after the death of her husband? As HE was the 'official' King in terms of succession and when he died surely her titles would have move to the next consort in line?
This series is wonderful. I remember seeing a greater ? George done with coloured stones. If memory serves me it was for the first Duke of Wellington. Is it possible for you to go over the Greats in the History of the Garter? I find it interesting who the Monarch picks to be a member of the. They get to pick so few these days.
How interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Paved? It is pah vead. French. Same root word. Pavè is specific for jewelry where it means small stones used to cover an area of metal, usually without visible prongs. Sometimes, in more modern jewelry, the stones are set without prongs, but usually in older pieces the prongs are cleverly hidden.
Really enjoyed this piece, as I am an amateur historian of Vctoria and Albert. I wondered what became of his Garter!
I know that non royal knights and ladies of the Garter must return certain pieces of their regalia upon their death. Do you know what happens to those pieces? Are they recycled and given to new knights and ladies? And are there any significant differences between the regalia of normal KG and LG?
This series has been fascinating and I hope you continue on with the other orders of knighthood.
All of the standard issue pieces of insignia of the Garter are returned to the Central Chancellery of the Orders of Knighthood in London on the deaths of the holders of the Garter and Thistle. The collar chains of the other orders are returned as well, but the rest of the insignia are personal property.
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As you are very versed in coronations do you know who the he hooded figure was that was caught passing the doors he was outside
Yes, it was one of the vergers in their black gowns. The people who lead processions. A friend of a friend knows the verger in question!
@@allanbarton go to admit though it looked like a bad omen
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If you put the word "Jewels" in your title, you are sure to get more viewers.
George the 3rd looks like a rothschild
Why isn’t Princess Catherine in the order?!
She will be in due course, but not in the next few years.