Please forgive my mistakes in this video, I have been producing two videos a day all week recovering from Covid, I have had little rest and oddly got the Dukes and Kent and their wives the wrong way round and said 1957 rather than 1917 at one point. Please don't remind me of these mistake endlessly dear viewers - if you do I might just scream!!!!
It's a pity we are having a Coronation at a time when there's a cost of living crisis because we might have had a bigger event with less criticism in the press.
@@richardring272 The more that I watch this channel and see how these people exalt themselves, the more I am disgusted by the institution of monarchies. Those past coronations were hideous. I agree with you and we'll just have to see how much Charles has pared this ceremony down and what follows.
I do hope they stick with as much tradition as they are able. I can’t wait to watch it all and now feel more informed thanks to you and your wonderful posts!
It would be shame if we do not see robes and coronets tomorrow. This is my 2nd and certainly my last Coronation, and I would prefer to see the pomp and circumstance that goes with the Coronation.
I really hope they don't trim it down too much. This is a rare occurrance and should not be changed too much. I think many of us like the traditions that go with this event.
Monarchy matters. Tradition matters. We want to belong and to matter. Symbols help. We don't abolish Shakespeare because 'it doesn't relate to this day'. We don't ditch the classical arts amd music- because we have 'moved on'. Somethings have value whatever the day. And we all enjoy dressing up for the important stuff. Even just a wedding say. Bring on our bling!
I was working at Blenheim Palace as under butler when the Long Library was being redecorated and behind the organ i found the old Coronet of the Duke of Marlborough! It was just sitting there paint spattered and with no inner cap just the metal part.
Thanks for this video as I am seeing alot of debate on this subject. Catherine for example is said to be considering wearing a floral headress instead of a tiara and the sapphire Choker that Diana, Princess of Wales wore so often. The State Opening of Parliament looks wrong when the Royal family wear day dress while all around them are peers in robes. The King and Queen will stand out looking impossibility antiquated if they are the only ones wearing robes and jewellery. The Coronation of Elizabeth ll doesn't look odd because everyone is wearing robes and coronets etc. If you're going to have a Coronation then you have to do it properly.
I watched a video about dukes a few years ago and they were showing their coronets and robes (all dusty and lackluster) saying that they'll need to clean and restore all before the next coronation. I guess nobody did😂
Wow, you are absolutely cranking out videos haha. Thank you so much for all of this info. As an American fan of the Royal Family and British history in general, this is all great context. I've enjoyed your coronation series immensely.
"If George Jetson were king...." was my thought upon seeing the 1969 coronet. For those who may not know, George Jetson was a character on an American animated television show called "The Jetsons". Produced by William Hannah and Joseph Barbera who also made "The Flintstones", it has a similar concept to that show but is set in the space age rather than the stone age.
While I very much am with you in the hope that we see some of this splendid pomp, I'm not holding my breath. We've only a short while now to find out! Thanks, as ever, for your wonderful knowledge!
If everyones wearing bussiness suits and dresses, it would make the king and the bishops stand out too much. The whole thing would look akward and out of place. I hope there is some degree of fancy traditional dressing with the royal and non royal particpants.
Thank you Allan for all your wonderful work presenting these videos. I feel well equipped to understand the ceremony and not just ‘watch’ it. I think you do a sterling job navigating your way through the labyrinth of Royal names, titles, dates and complexities of it all. Now you can sit back and enjoy it and maybe enjoy a coronation chicken sandwich! 😊 😍🥳🥰😀 Thanks again. 🙏
Thank you Allan. I have so enjoyed your videos so far. How lovely it would be to step back in time and be there to see all the traditional coronations. I hope tomorrow is not too modern and they do have some of the lovely coronets and robes. We shall see.
Golly the spreadsheet to parse that that lot out must have been table top size. Well done! I’m going to tune in at 2am to start watching from the west coast of Vancouver Island.
Thank you! I will be disappointed if the royals won´t wear the robes and coronets according to tradition and the protocoll, as we call it in democracies. It would be a splendid sight.
@@TyresaerysTargaryen Exactly. The Abbey interior still looks the same as if was just for a royal wedding. All the previous coronation looked truly regal. Sigh.
Well, i think it's wonderful that their Majesties are reusing many robes and other regalia from previous, rather than having new made. It would be great to see many crowns and robes dusted off and put to use. Personally, I like the Prince of Wales coronet, with its gold plated ping pong ball.
Sadly there were no members of the Royal family in robes of state or coronets today, which was a pity, although the mantles worn by Catherine, Prince Edward and Sophie etc did make up for this slightly, at least they weren't just in day dress and morning suits
Princess Anne will stand out among the royal ladies and she will not be in a gown. HRH will performing the role of Gold Stick in Waiting and hence will be in the ceremonial uniform of a Blues and Royals colonel, It's yet to be determined whether she will wear a robe over it but it's safe to assume that she will not be in a tiara.
there is also a simple problem: all those longer trails require an extra page to keep it aloft from the ground and for posh entrance another page just for the cushion with the respective coronet
We appreciate your content and your coverage of this coronation, it’s been incredibly detailed and informative and I hope I speak for many people when I say after the coronation, I hope you get some rest and feel much better very soon!
Thanks for another great video. Hope at least the Prince of Wales will be robed as he is doing homage. Doubt if the other royal princes will be robed. As the Dukes of Sussex and York are not working royals it would be rather inappropriate for them, I think, and to avoid controversy the royal dukes of Edinburgh, Gloucester, and Kent, dutiful gentlemen that they are, will probably refrain also. I think, in addition to abbreviating the service, that the decsion to have only the Prince of Wales of the royal princes to do homage was to avoid controversy about the status of the dukes of York and Sussex. Glad to hear that peers attending who wish to do so can wear their robes. Certainly the peers having roles in the service and processions should be dressed in the traditional style. A last minute decision due to backlash? The Lord Mayor of London has announced he will wear the mayoral robes worn by his predecessor in 1953. Don't see how any one could prevent him anyway. Hopefully, he will also process to the Abbey in his state coach. I was disappointed to learn that the Speaker of the House of Commons isn't going to use his state coach although it is on display at Westminster Hall.
In the post-coronation review by several friends, they called it "coronation light" because of the absence of robes, tiaras, coronets, etc. While I also would have liked to have seen the whole show all stops pulled out, I realize that given the current situation in Britain that would have been a horrible move for the future of the monarchy. I think the compromises made to both reflect the new multi-cultural Britain and a still classy but scaled down bling was a sound choice to position the monarchy for some new changes to keep it alive and relevant
I love this video❤❤ it was really, really nice. I loved all the vintage photos of everyone, the explanation of everything, even Prince Archie and Princess Lillibet! That was wonderful! I love to see more videos like this one for sure.. No more hateful ones about Harry and his family.. why can’t people just enjoy this event? Any way, I just fell in love this video❤❤ Thank you so much for sharing all this wonderful info.
@7:37 - “The Duke of Gloucester and his wife Marina” - Princess Alice was the wife of Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, and Princess Marina was the wife of Prince George, Duke of Kent - at the coronation of King George VI in 1937.
Please forgive my mistakes in this video, I have been producing two videos a day all week recovering from Covid, I have had little rest and oddly got the Dukes and Kent and their wives the wrong way round and said 1957 rather than 1917 at one point. Please don't remind me of these mistake endlessly dear viewers - if you do I might just scream!!!
Dr. B: I'm not sue any of your viewers have asked the following question: What's the origin of the catchy introductory musical ditty, what I'll call your "theme song?" Having no musical training, I have no idea what instrument(s) produce the sounds, but the piece is charming and transports one immediately back to...hmm, to what epoch? Thanks so much.
George VI’s coronation was in 1937 and George V wasn’t alive in 1957. 😋 Fabulous video as always however. Thank you for all the hard work leading up to the wonderful event!!!
I can only imagine. Thank you again for the excellent content. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. I never miss one of your videos! Be well sir!!! 🇬🇧
I wish Charlotte & Louis would be wearing the late Queen's & princess Margaret's little robes, but I'm betting this will not happen. Such a shame for those robes to go to waste.
I liked this program very much. It helps teaching the history of the crowning of a King and what was their dress in the yearsbefore this future King. I love history.
Such wonderful videos leading up to the coronation! Feeling like I understand the entire event much clearer. I must ask about the kings second son. Had an understanding that he would be just a spectator. Is this misinformation Allen? Do we just not know yet?
Allan, I think you had a slip of the tongue at 7:30. I'm pretty sure that is Prince George, the Duke of KENT (not Gloucester). George was the killed in a plane crash during WWII. He was the father of the current Duke of Kent. His wife in the photo, Princess Marina, was Prince Philip's older first cousin. That's probably why the Queen was so close to her cousin Edward, Duke of Kent. The two families are intertwined and related in different ways. Edward is practically a "double cousin."
He made mention of several errors in a separate post and also at the top of comments. He is recovering from COVID and also working really hard to offer us so much information. I think he's doing a marvelous job!🥰
9:25 Can you please explain the title of Prince Edward? You've said that Lady Louise prefers to be styled as the daughter of a "non-royal Duke". I've read where Prince Edward's title is "His Royal Highness, the Duke of Edinburgh". Am I missing something here? Thanks.
Prince Edward is the child of a monarch and so is entitled to use the style of Royal Highness. Lady Louise is the granddaughter of a monarch through the male line and so is entitled to be styled Royal Highness but her parents chose not to give her that style but to choose Lady Louise instead. That happens to be the same style given to the daughters of non-royal dukes. At age 18 (17?) Lady Louise could have chosen to change her style to Royal Highness but so far she has not done so.
Daughters of non royal Dukes are addressed as Ladies. I think Louise chose that form of address over being called a Princess. That's why the mention of the non royal Duke bit I think, it doesn't refer to Duke of Edinburgh
@@allanbarton it was interesting Allan did you see the official portraits after the women appear to have changed into traditional white court dress with order sash but no robes.
Thank you for all the videos you’ve made of the coronation. I’m an American whose mother’s maternal grandmother was born in Victorian England. Your videos have been very educational and I cannot wait to watch the coronation of His Majesty, King Charles III That means I will have to get up before 5 am local time to watch it (I’m in Virginia which was named after the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I). Cheers!
I'm catching up here, and I'm not as excited as I was because they are going to wear hippie flowers in their hair 🤦🏻♀️ I know I'm going to get slack for it but when I see that I think of that song San Francisco and the other one by LED Zeppelin I forget the title of the song but it includes flowers in their hair. Grew up during the counter culture revolution and it still rings weird, to me.
Oh the 1969 coronet looks wonderful! Certainly not traditional. The orb looks like a captured Golden Snitch (Harry Potter) rather than anything else 💖💕 Have to say the ermine en masse is not impressive and looked like old neglected felt at times. Many thanks for all these extra details, Allan!
Please forgive my mistakes in this video, I have been producing two videos a day all week recovering from Covid, I have had little rest and oddly got the Dukes and Kent and their wives the wrong way round and said 1957 rather than 1917 at one point. Please don't remind me of these mistake endlessly dear viewers - if you do I might just scream!!!
I think it's ashame the current royals won't get to experience the pomp and circumstance. What good is being 24/7 in the piblic eye if you can't have the pomp and circumstance when it's appropriate.
It's all a bit funny that being a 'Prince' as such gives no precedence and they rely on relationship to the Sovereign or former Sovereign or having a peerage for precedence.
@@allanbarton Indeed. i found it all very bland. Sadly I think we will never see coronets again. i suspect William will go for an even more modernized coronation. in my opinion queen elizabeths coronation was the last true traditional sacred coronation. I'm also a bit outraged at the BBC for not hiring you to educate the viewers about the coronation and its history. huge missed opportunity and a big mistake.
As much as im sure everyone wanted to go the teaditional route, bland was the best way. A lot of people in this world are bitter, jealous, full of hate and exude nothing but malice at the slightest provocation, in a cost of living crisis, going full glam would have been in poor taste and wpuld have attracted the hate speech of anti-monarchists and communists.
It is my understanding that the very few of the pierage that are allowed to appear due to Charles III insisiting that those who are allowed to attend were chosenon by lottery. They all are instructed by his majesty not to wear their coronets or robes which has been a tradition in all the previous coronations.
I can't help but feel sorry for the poor ermines if past traditions are followed. Given the pro-environmental sentiments of several key players, I don't think we'll see anything which would cause British citizens to immediately lash out at the newly crowned sovereign.
Like your videos but the whole world is completely bored with the Brits Royal clan. How about doing the same type video's but with the Japanese Imperial family? Now that would be very interesting!
Do you have an email address? They should be able to wear bandeau's instead of flowers. Charles seems like it all about him now that his mum is dead kinda like the spare prince of cringe, maybe that's where Waaagh gets it from. I have been reading about the different types of tiara's etc. I had a plethora of books on the subject but they're all gone
The coronation chair of King and queen is at same level. (King's chair dose not even have steps like Queen Elizabeth had😢. And why they didn't raised the scaffoldings in the abbey. Why the procession is too short?. I think we'll never get to see the treditional coronation😢😞. Why leader's of others faith and idolworshipers are allowed to even enter the LONDON. CHARLES forgot that his ancestor king Richard did crusade. What's happening......😢. It's only the ANGLICAN PROTESTENT CHRISTIAN CEREMONY POMP AND PAGENTRY. we lost it... My expectations was it will be the greatest coronation in the history of uk or maybe the whole world...sad 😭.
Please forgive my mistakes in this video, I have been producing two videos a day all week recovering from Covid, I have had little rest and oddly got the Dukes and Kent and their wives the wrong way round and said 1957 rather than 1917 at one point. Please don't remind me of these mistake endlessly dear viewers - if you do I might just scream!!!!
Your content is wonderful!
The Royal Household should employ you, you are doing more to educate on the coronation, monarchy, and constitution than ANYONE ELSE!
Feel better!
It's a pity we are having a Coronation at a time when there's a cost of living crisis because we might have had a bigger event with less criticism in the press.
@@richardring272 The more that I watch this channel and see how these people exalt themselves, the more I am disgusted by the institution of monarchies. Those past coronations were hideous. I agree with you and we'll just have to see how much Charles has pared this ceremony down and what follows.
Princess Margaret really did look stunning in 1953.
I do hope the Princes and Princesses all wear appropriate robes and coronets.
I do hope they stick with as much tradition as they are able. I can’t wait to watch it all and now feel more informed thanks to you and your wonderful posts!
Same here!
It would be shame if we do not see robes and coronets tomorrow. This is my 2nd and certainly my last Coronation, and I would prefer to see the pomp and circumstance that goes with the Coronation.
I really hope they don't trim it down too much. This is a rare occurrance and should not be changed too much. I think many of us like the traditions that go with this event.
Monarchy matters. Tradition matters. We want to belong and to matter. Symbols help. We don't abolish Shakespeare because 'it doesn't relate to this day'. We don't ditch the classical arts amd music- because we have 'moved on'. Somethings have value whatever the day. And we all enjoy dressing up for the important stuff. Even just a wedding say. Bring on our bling!
I was working at Blenheim Palace as under butler when the Long Library was being redecorated and behind the organ i found the old Coronet of the Duke of Marlborough! It was just sitting there paint spattered and with no inner cap just the metal part.
😳😮 Wow!!!
I am envious. What a wonderful job! I'm in the US. You must have some amazing anecdotes ❤. God bless you.
If you can't get dressed up for a Coronation, when can you?!
Really impressive to go so deep into this subject that you get to Princess Marie Louise!
Thanks for this video as I am seeing alot of debate on this subject. Catherine for example is said to be considering wearing a floral headress instead of a tiara and the sapphire Choker that Diana, Princess of Wales wore so often. The State Opening of Parliament looks wrong when the Royal family wear day dress while all around them are peers in robes. The King and Queen will stand out looking impossibility antiquated if they are the only ones wearing robes and jewellery. The Coronation of Elizabeth ll doesn't look odd because everyone is wearing robes and coronets etc. If you're going to have a Coronation then you have to do it properly.
If there isn't a display of a range of funny-looking coronets, there will be no real spectacle at all.
I know! What a total cheap out 😂
I watched a video about dukes a few years ago and they were showing their coronets and robes (all dusty and lackluster) saying that they'll need to clean and restore all before the next coronation. I guess nobody did😂
I am upset about the lack of robes, tiaras and coronets. I also have not been to bed yet. I will see how I feel with some 😴.
Yes and that's what happened, pretty disappointing tbh.
Dang, we want to see tradition. We want to see tiaras and robes and crowns.
Thanks for the explanations. Such a Pity we did not got to see all this yesterday
Wow, you are absolutely cranking out videos haha. Thank you so much for all of this info. As an American fan of the Royal Family and British history in general, this is all great context. I've enjoyed your coronation series immensely.
Thank you - I think I am running on adrenaline at this point. I still have two more to do.
"If George Jetson were king...." was my thought upon seeing the 1969 coronet.
For those who may not know, George Jetson was a character on an American animated television show called "The Jetsons". Produced by William Hannah and Joseph Barbera who also made "The Flintstones", it has a similar concept to that show but is set in the space age rather than the stone age.
I do hope there are still some robes and coronets tomorrow. shame if there isnt!
While I very much am with you in the hope that we see some of this splendid pomp, I'm not holding my breath. We've only a short while now to find out! Thanks, as ever, for your wonderful knowledge!
If everyones wearing bussiness suits and dresses, it would make the king and the bishops stand out too much. The whole thing would look akward and out of place. I hope there is some degree of fancy traditional dressing with the royal and non royal particpants.
Thank you Allan for all your wonderful work presenting these videos. I feel well equipped to understand the ceremony and not just ‘watch’ it. I think you do a sterling job navigating your way through the labyrinth of Royal names, titles, dates and complexities of it all. Now you can sit back and enjoy it and maybe enjoy a coronation chicken sandwich! 😊 😍🥳🥰😀 Thanks again. 🙏
Thank you Allan. I have so enjoyed your videos so far. How lovely it would be to step back in time and be there to see all the traditional coronations. I hope tomorrow is not too modern and they do have some of the lovely coronets and robes. We shall see.
Golly the spreadsheet to parse that that lot out must have been table top size. Well done!
I’m going to tune in at 2am to start watching from the west coast of Vancouver Island.
Thank you! I will be disappointed if the royals won´t wear the robes and coronets according to tradition and the protocoll, as we call it in democracies. It would be a splendid sight.
All so exciting, I am looking forward to this tomorrow.
It’s a shame we won’t see a coronation box like before
Royal box*
Royal box*
@@TyresaerysTargaryen Exactly. The Abbey interior still looks the same as if was just for a royal wedding. All the previous coronation looked truly regal. Sigh.
Well, i think it's wonderful that their Majesties are reusing many robes and other regalia from previous, rather than having new made. It would be great to see many crowns and robes dusted off and put to use. Personally, I like the Prince of Wales coronet, with its gold plated ping pong ball.
No doubt Katherine will look stunning; she never fails to look smashing!
Sadly there were no members of the Royal family in robes of state or coronets today, which was a pity, although the mantles worn by Catherine, Prince Edward and Sophie etc did make up for this slightly, at least they weren't just in day dress and morning suits
Sorry King Charles, no gold plated ping pong balls EVER!😂
Princess Anne will stand out among the royal ladies and she will not be in a gown. HRH will performing the role of Gold Stick in Waiting and hence will be in the ceremonial uniform of a Blues and Royals colonel, It's yet to be determined whether she will wear a robe over it but it's safe to assume that she will not be in a tiara.
Thank you for these wonderful videos. Amazing what you’ve accomplished while ill!
It seemed a shame to waste years of obsessive research in an opportunity like this 😆. Glad you appreciate my efforts!
Dear Father Deacon, this posting is worthy of the Duc de Saint-Simon! Loved it.
Out comes the dressing-up box !
there is also a simple problem: all those longer trails require an extra page to keep it aloft from the ground
and for posh entrance another page just for the cushion with the respective coronet
Very interesting, so let’s wait and see…
We appreciate your content and your coverage of this coronation, it’s been incredibly detailed and informative and I hope I speak for many people when I say after the coronation, I hope you get some rest and feel much better very soon!
Can you guarantee it won’t be worn. Hate that ping pong ball crown. Yikes🤨 👑 👑 👑 Hope to see lady Louise looking good
“Gold plated ping pong balls”… ha ha ha! That space-age coronet really is an unfortunate design.
It would be lovely to see Charlotte in a little robe of estate
Thanks for another great video. Hope at least the Prince of Wales will be robed as he is doing homage. Doubt if the other royal princes will be robed. As the Dukes of Sussex and York are not working royals it would be rather inappropriate for them, I think, and to avoid controversy the royal dukes of Edinburgh, Gloucester, and Kent, dutiful gentlemen that they are, will probably refrain also. I think, in addition to abbreviating the service, that the decsion to have only the Prince of Wales of the royal princes to do homage was to avoid controversy about the status of the dukes of York and Sussex. Glad to hear that peers attending who wish to do so can wear their robes. Certainly the peers having roles in the service and processions should be dressed in the traditional style. A last minute decision due to backlash? The Lord Mayor of London has announced he will wear the mayoral robes worn by his predecessor in 1953. Don't see how any one could prevent him anyway. Hopefully, he will also process to the Abbey in his state coach. I was disappointed to learn that the Speaker of the House of Commons isn't going to use his state coach although it is on display at Westminster Hall.
It has been reported that at least the working royal Princes will be wearing coronation robes.
@@reggiebosanquet1525 Thank you for the update. I hope that's right
This was very instructive. Thank you!
As always your documentaries are superb and so very interesting …
Thank you very much, glad you've been enjoying them!
In the post-coronation review by several friends, they called it "coronation light" because of the absence of robes, tiaras, coronets, etc. While I also would have liked to have seen the whole show all stops pulled out, I realize that given the current situation in Britain that would have been a horrible move for the future of the monarchy. I think the compromises made to both reflect the new multi-cultural Britain and a still classy but scaled down bling was a sound choice to position the monarchy for some new changes to keep it alive and relevant
I love this video❤❤ it was really, really nice. I loved all the vintage photos of everyone, the explanation of everything, even Prince Archie and Princess Lillibet! That was wonderful! I love to see more videos like this one for sure.. No more hateful ones about Harry and his family.. why can’t people just enjoy this event? Any way, I just fell in love this video❤❤ Thank you so much for sharing all this wonderful info.
Very impressive and informative! Sadly, I don't think we will see any of the special pomp tomorrow.
@7:37 - “The Duke of Gloucester and his wife Marina” - Princess Alice was the wife of Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, and Princess Marina was the wife of Prince George, Duke of Kent - at the coronation of King George VI in 1937.
Please forgive my mistakes in this video, I have been producing two videos a day all week recovering from Covid, I have had little rest and oddly got the Dukes and Kent and their wives the wrong way round and said 1957 rather than 1917 at one point. Please don't remind me of these mistake endlessly dear viewers - if you do I might just scream!!!
Dr. B: I'm not sue any of your viewers have asked the following question: What's the origin of the catchy introductory musical ditty, what I'll call your "theme song?" Having no musical training, I have no idea what instrument(s) produce the sounds, but the piece is charming and transports one immediately back to...hmm, to what epoch? Thanks so much.
George VI’s coronation was in 1937 and George V wasn’t alive in 1957. 😋 Fabulous video as always however. Thank you for all the hard work leading up to the wonderful event!!!
Recovering from Covid and very tired.
I can only imagine. Thank you again for the excellent content. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. I never miss one of your videos! Be well sir!!! 🇬🇧
I wish Charlotte & Louis would be wearing the late Queen's & princess Margaret's little robes, but I'm betting this will not happen. Such a shame for those robes to go to waste.
Can not wait for tomorrow 🎉❤😊
I liked this program very much. It helps teaching the history of the crowning of a King and what was their dress in the yearsbefore this future King. I love history.
Such wonderful videos leading up to the coronation! Feeling like I understand the entire event much clearer. I must ask about the kings second son. Had an understanding that he would be just a spectator. Is this misinformation Allen? Do we just not know yet?
The Prince of Wales left the Abbey this morning still wearing his Garther Robes.
Apparently so.
That is fantastic, I'd seen a photo good to have a first hand witness.
I do hope William and Kate at least are in full regalia! Fingers crossed any new robes are trimmed with artificial ermine, not the real thing.
The leather on their belts and shoes will hopefully be artificial too.
Excellent video - thank you very much
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks!
Allan, I think you had a slip of the tongue at 7:30. I'm pretty sure that is Prince George, the Duke of KENT (not Gloucester). George was the killed in a plane crash during WWII. He was the father of the current Duke of Kent. His wife in the photo, Princess Marina, was Prince Philip's older first cousin. That's probably why the Queen was so close to her cousin Edward, Duke of Kent. The two families are intertwined and related in different ways. Edward is practically a "double cousin."
He made mention of several errors in a separate post and also at the top of comments. He is recovering from COVID and also working really hard to offer us so much information. I think he's doing a marvelous job!🥰
Marvellous video! Is there a pist-Coronation version?
I hope they all show up in high dress!
I hope so too... it's like when they stop using the prince of wales feathers in court dress
9:25 Can you please explain the title of Prince Edward? You've said that Lady Louise prefers to be styled as the daughter of a "non-royal Duke". I've read where Prince Edward's title is "His Royal Highness, the Duke of Edinburgh". Am I missing something here? Thanks.
Prince Edward is the child of a monarch and so is entitled to use the style of Royal Highness. Lady Louise is the granddaughter of a monarch through the male line and so is entitled to be styled Royal Highness but her parents chose not to give her that style but to choose Lady Louise instead. That happens to be the same style given to the daughters of non-royal dukes. At age 18 (17?) Lady Louise could have chosen to change her style to Royal Highness but so far she has not done so.
Yes, was thinking the same thing. If Edward, Duke of Edinburgh, isn't a Royal Highness then...well...what does that title even mean?
Daughters of non royal Dukes are addressed as Ladies. I think Louise chose that form of address over being called a Princess. That's why the mention of the non royal Duke bit I think, it doesn't refer to Duke of Edinburgh
@@trimegistus I understand a bit more. TY
@@cassandramarrelli3363 He is a Royal Highness.
Half of the excitement is seeing what they will be wearing!
It was all very different- the former traditions swept away.
Agree disappointing
@@allanbarton it was interesting Allan did you see the official portraits after the women appear to have changed into traditional white court dress with order sash but no robes.
Thank you for all the videos you’ve made of the coronation. I’m an American whose mother’s maternal grandmother was born in Victorian England. Your videos have been very educational and I cannot wait to watch the coronation of His Majesty, King Charles III That means I will have to get up before 5 am local time to watch it (I’m in Virginia which was named after the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I). Cheers!
Back when prince Williams great grandfather was crown his grandmother wore a little crown
I was wondering if you could let me know how the Queen wears her Imperial Robe. It looks like it is draped over her shoulders but how does it stay on?
Will you also be uploading a video on the Holy Communion?
Perhaps afterwards, I am at capacity this week!
@@allanbarton Understandable please get some well deserved rest
Who is lord Chamberlain, who broke that wand on queens coffin??
Lord Andrew Parker
Baron Parker of Minsmere
@@fourtysevennn That title is potentially 'misleading' as including the Christian name implies a younger son of a Duke or Marquess. See below.
Wait and see it's not long now.
Never mind the haters! This vid is detailed and very informative. Watched it twice😅
Amazing
Thank you for the video, I wonder why the ladies wear their coronets with tiaras? Seems a little unnecessary
Probably, but it is splendid with all those diamonds glinting.
Magnificent robes ❤
No robes, no coronets (except for the kings of arms)... not even tiaras. Disappointing.
I'm catching up here, and I'm not as excited as I was because they are going to wear hippie flowers in their hair 🤦🏻♀️ I know I'm going to get slack for it but when I see that I think of that song San Francisco and the other one by LED Zeppelin I forget the title of the song but it includes flowers in their hair. Grew up during the counter culture revolution and it still rings weird, to me.
Oh the 1969 coronet looks wonderful! Certainly not traditional.
The orb looks like a captured Golden Snitch (Harry Potter) rather than anything else 💖💕
Have to say the ermine en masse is not impressive and looked like old neglected felt at times.
Many thanks for all these extra details, Allan!
7:31 I think you misspoke here. It's Duke of Kent, not Gloucester
Incredibly disappointing turn out, no robes coronets or tiaras, not even gloves on ladies, mantles didn't make up for it.
7:32 You made a mistake. That's the Duke of Kent, not the Duke of Gloucester. And 11:01, George VI was Queen Maud's nephew, not great-nephew.
Please forgive my mistakes in this video, I have been producing two videos a day all week recovering from Covid, I have had little rest and oddly got the Dukes and Kent and their wives the wrong way round and said 1957 rather than 1917 at one point. Please don't remind me of these mistake endlessly dear viewers - if you do I might just scream!!!
I think it's ashame the current royals won't get to experience the pomp and circumstance. What good is being 24/7 in the piblic eye if you can't have the pomp and circumstance when it's appropriate.
It's all a bit funny that being a 'Prince' as such gives no precedence and they rely on relationship to the Sovereign or former Sovereign or having a peerage for precedence.
I am for strawberry leaves and twiddlers. 🎉
No robes and no coronets at all. Whole coronation was a big disapointement to me.
It was a great shame, though sadly unsurprising.
@@allanbarton Indeed. i found it all very bland. Sadly I think we will never see coronets again. i suspect William will go for an even more modernized coronation. in my opinion queen elizabeths coronation was the last true traditional sacred coronation.
I'm also a bit outraged at the BBC for not hiring you to educate the viewers about the coronation and its history. huge missed opportunity and a big mistake.
As much as im sure everyone wanted to go the teaditional route, bland was the best way. A lot of people in this world are bitter, jealous, full of hate and exude nothing but malice at the slightest provocation, in a cost of living crisis, going full glam would have been in poor taste and wpuld have attracted the hate speech of anti-monarchists and communists.
It is my understanding that the very few of the pierage that are allowed to appear due to Charles III insisiting that those who are allowed to attend were chosenon by lottery. They all are instructed by his majesty not to wear their coronets or robes which has been a tradition in all the previous coronations.
They have in the last few days been given permission to wear them.
@@allanbarton that’s great news! Wasn’t looking forward to a sea of business suits.
The coronet for Charles as PoW has *his astrological sign* in diamonds around the pong-monde-ball, so no other prince really *could* use it.
Thanks for that interesting and important information. I wondered why it was so uniquely different.
I can't help but feel sorry for the poor ermines if past traditions are followed. Given the pro-environmental sentiments of several key players, I don't think we'll see anything which would cause British citizens to immediately lash out at the newly crowned sovereign.
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Like your videos but the whole world is completely bored with the Brits Royal clan. How about doing the same type video's but with the Japanese Imperial family? Now that would be very interesting!
Harry should wear a clown suit 🤡
Do you have an email address? They should be able to wear bandeau's instead of flowers. Charles seems like it all about him now that his mum is dead kinda like the spare prince of cringe, maybe that's where Waaagh gets it from. I have been reading about the different types of tiara's etc. I had a plethora of books on the subject but they're all gone
9:19 clearly not George V in 1957.
I am a little exhausted, I did of course mean 1917. I have produced so many videos this last week I don't know if I'm coming or going.
@@allanbarton Absolutely, your output is fantastic. Trying to anticipate others.
Endless elaborations of tradition and ritual--and endless evolutions--are probably a sign of a snarled dying culture. Sad, but true.
Dukes don’t have 5 rows they have 4
That is true, why on earth did I say five?
@@allanbarton Because you must be absolutely exhausted and deserve a good long rest following the coronation. Cheers!
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The coronation chair of King and queen is at same level. (King's chair dose not even have steps like Queen Elizabeth had😢. And why they didn't raised the scaffoldings in the abbey. Why the procession is too short?. I think we'll never get to see the treditional coronation😢😞. Why leader's of others faith and idolworshipers are allowed to even enter the LONDON. CHARLES forgot that his ancestor king Richard did crusade. What's happening......😢. It's only the ANGLICAN PROTESTENT CHRISTIAN CEREMONY POMP AND PAGENTRY. we lost it... My expectations was it will be the greatest coronation in the history of uk or maybe the whole world...sad 😭.
Thanks!
Thank you.