Exactly! Ever notice how they do the silent effect, stay silent, act like "what?" tongue in cheek". Shine you on, no comments. Ignore you. Like the DNC... ACT STUPID, then blame you for bringing up their behavior as if you are the one punishing and damaging to them!
I think these terminologies such as supply and discard from the experts are labels that I feel makes women or men being defined as object and is degrading. Also, it is very generalized tunnel vision ideation, that makes me as human being just focus on negative aspects, I do not see any positive, please health clinicians , there are so many factors involved, and saying there is no hope is the saddest thing to say to help and support a person who needs the help.
"no one believes you." This is a huge problem! Then you start doubting your own perceptions and your intuition gets killed off. You don't trust yourself anymore.
So true, thus it's the best starting point to move away from their narrative, pay no attention to the BS they're saying, tell your own truth when appropriate. Be a decent person - other decent people will appreciate this. Flying monkeys and narcs will not - which is good!
Yes it is....hes out .....this has been 7 years...off n on....i always get sucked back in....but i have done some work....i feel so dumb sometimes for falling back into it
The way I got past the abuse amnesia was to write on a calendar at work the word "REMEMBER" whenever I was abused physically, mentally, emotionally, or financially. It really helped me escape.
corsican lulu I know that a lot of 'religious' people judge, if they're Christians they're supposed to try their best not to do that, the bible clearly tells us Christians to 'fix' ourselves first and never judge the non-Christian, to only be kind to them. But this is hard for Christians and non Christians alike, were still only human. I do want to point out that though the bible tells us to forgive, That is mostly for our own benefit, to clear us of that negative energy. The bible also tells us this: Proverbs 4:23 'Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life.' We shouldn't let people trample over us again and again and again this causes us to become cold and unforgiving, we must guard our hearts so that other people don't make us bitter, angry or steal our energy for life and love. We as men think we're so smart that we don't need God, if we just read the bible we'd find the answers have been here all along. Also if you seek him with all of your heart, you will find him and he helps you change if you are willing to do the prayer work. I've had two revelations in the last year & I can tell you that I am sure Jesus is who the bible says he is. God bless you and may he give you eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart that is able to discern:) P.S. It's great to learn from other wise teachers whose basic principals mirror teachings of the bible, these videos have been very kind and helpful!
I've been Christian since age 10. God knows I'm a work in progress. He knows what I've been through. It's Him who was there watching me get whipped by my own belt over and over again. I have the "remember" poster put on the wall to remind ME not to let my guard down again and to have Him guide me on the path I need to go. Thank you Bri.
It hurts to imagine life without my boyfriend. I never thought it would come to this point where I might have to let go. I know this may not be the right place to share this, but I feel like I’m gradually losing myself, and I don’t know what to do. I’m holding tightly to the beautiful moments we shared, and I sincerely hope he finds happiness.
I completely understand how you feel. I went through something similar when my long term relationship ended. It felt like my heart was shattered, and no matter how much time passed, I couldn’t let go of the memories. I tried everything to get him back talking to friends for advice, even writing letters I never sent. Eventually, I found help through Father Tosin Ayodele, who came through for me and helped me get my man back.
It’s super easy! His handle is, Father Tosin Ayodele. Just reach out and explain your situation to him. He’s a great listener and offers helpful advice too.
This is so inspiring. My mind has been consumed with thoughts of him. It's been 6zmonths since he left, and the pain feels like a physical ache. The laughter, the memories, the adventures they're all gone. I've tried to distract myself, but the harder I try, the more I think about him. How do people truly move on? The memories are still so vivid, and I miss him more than words can express.
Sweetheart, I’m so sorry you’re going through this. My heart aches for you. Last year, my fiancé ended our 3 year relationship without explanation, and I cried every night. It was one of the darkest times in my life. But I want you to know you’re not alone I’m here for you. In my search for healing, I reached out to Father Tosin Ayodele, a spiritual counselor, and it made all the difference. With his guidance, my fiancé and I reconnected, and we’re back together now.
Fart Knocker unfortunately until the laws catch up instead of fear , i had to learn ways not to give the Narcissistic supply. Im no doormat but when women speak out on this issue , thats awesome. I just screen any dating situations and they still slip through.
It’s hurts to think of life without my boyfriend, I never imagined it would get to this point where I would let go. I know im not supposed to write this here but I’m gradually loosing myself and I don’t know what to do. I’m still holding unto the beautiful moments we shared and I hope that he finds happiness.
I completely understand how you feel. I went through something similar when my long term relationship ended. It felt like my heart was shattered, and no matter how much time passed, I couldn’t shake the memories. I tried everything to get him back, from reaching out to friends for advice to even writing letters I never sent. Eventually, I came across this Father Tosin Ayodele who came through for me and helped get my man back.
Fuck. I hardly cuss but...fuck. It's the worst when you realize it's your own mother--your own narcissistic mother and your enabling father who did this to you. I'm still trying to move out, in secret, and I hardly even know where to begin. Help! Pray for me. This sucks.
It's painful alright. A deep soul suffering to experience. It's a total shock to system, mind body and soul to the possibility of a humanity w no conscious.
I grew up in a cult and the leftover damage has left a bad residue with my mom. I was blessed twenty years ago to have been able to escape to the other side of the country. I enjoyed 11 years of unbelievable Joy by going completely No-Contact but I was found by a cult member and it went down hill again. I Have faith that I will one day be set free again, for good,
I have all the signs of Stockholm. No wonder I feel so stupid, fearful, lost, confused, besides the fundamental signs that come through isolation, slandering, gaslighting, etc.
And triangulation. When we look at ourselves w empathy, it really sheds light on what survivors we are. It makes it easier to forgive self for falling for this SPELL.
Yes they are master manipulators. For example my mother would kick the shite out of me for no particular reason before I would drive her to the doctors. She would act all angelic in front of the doctor. And when we got home she'd slap me silly because she HAD to slap me silly before we went to the doctors. Causing her blood pressure to go up! Now im out of the situation i just laugh. As i get older people say to me who where too polite to say it at the time say 'ur the one with the weird mother arnt u?' People make there own conclusions up. Talk is cheap and she still thinks she looks holier than thou. But despite all the haters and smear campainers. Her actions speak louder than words. Give people more credit. They are much more observant than you think 😉👍♥️💚
Bullies, violent people and those who pick on the weak and vulnerable, are the lowest of the low. They represent the worst amongst us. I have no respect for those type of people. Anybody can act tough with those who are weak and vulnerable. I could get a small animal and bully it or be violent towards it. Picking on those weaker than you is not clever. It's not an achievement. I don't do it because I have self respect.
You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! ESPECIALLY POLICEMEN AND THE ARMED FORCES ARE AMONG THE MOST COWARD PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE WORLD! Only a true coward hides behind a weapon of mass destruction. They are not there to protect us, they are there to PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST US AND TO GUARD THEIR DAMMED MONEY!
by the end of my marriage, when the abuse had escalated to crazy levels, every time I was about to leave our apartment, my ex-husband would create drama. So I got stuck in this insane argument with him, would cry a lot, feel horrible and then I always decided not to leave... wow! your video opened my eyes! that was also part of his sick game.
Ipe Amarelo My narc soon to be ex husband would create a fight and when I would leave, he would leave our kids at home by themselves. I'd have to leave my friends and come home. I stopped going out. I was miserable.
I was raised by a very toxic mother and a codependent father. I totally get that. I see how my brother attracts toxic women. About 50% of my coaching clients are men and I've seen what they've been through. Only a few of them were abused by men, most of them were abused by women. This problem spans all cultures, genders, socio-economic statuses, and races. Big hug!
I can't thank you enough. I have blocked him from all contact and I have resisted all urges I've had to reach out to him. He was cruel to me yet I know if he contacted me and asked me to come over I would.
This brought me to tears. I just went through a divorce from a 23 year long marriage. We have kids together so unfortunately I have to have contact. I finally blocked him from calling me, he can only email me, but he tries to pull me back in. What's crazy is he is already engaged to someone new, we've only been divorced since May. 😲 I could go on and on, thank you so much for this video it's one of the best on toxic abuse!
it has nothing to do w/ his new relationship ... the high they get from messing w/you is better than sex it last longer ... I hope it goes better for you ...my ex did not stop till my youngest turned 18 it was constantly CS or child custody... he had me in court all the time it is a control issue ... when I served him w/divorce papers he said "you will live in the street " i should have listened ...he meant it
Janice, the biggest lights on this planet are somewhat "broken". These are the people who carry a lot of hope for humanity. You are not alone...sending much love and hugs to you.
I just went thru hell my partner had isolated me .he tried to kill me .I survived .don't let anyone manipulate you see the red flags and run from that person.
I agree. ...mine did kill Me. Strangulation and broken neck. Nine minutes dead. I'm a survivor...I'm here to help anyone as a.life coach.men and women. Nikkicardarella78@gmail.com
My mum got me believe I am useless and cannot survive on my own. I felt helpless but bonding withher she was so important for me and she would not let me grow up she kept treating me as a child and dependent and she hated that I wanted to be an adult and I have been fighting with her my whole life. And she did kind things or spoke kindly and that always hooked me and I started to believe that she is okay perhaps we can mend our relationship and forever feeling guilty that our relationship is not good. Now, I relaize it could have never become better.
klári geiszler I think your mom was a single mother and that's why she did that. You growing up would result into you leaving her embrace and she'd be left alone.
Watch Jordan Peterson’s lecture on the Oedipal Mother. You will finally have a clinical explanation of what happened to you. If she did this, cut her out of your life.
Wow, wow and WOW!!! I thought that this happened only to me but apparently it is a real condition affecting many people out there! Thank you so much for your thorough explanation and for this alertness you are giving us... Highly appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
YOUR NOT ALONE! STAY SRONG I've been out of contact for almost 2 months and it's been the hardest thing ever, every call triggers panic attack and not from the narcissist her self but from her mother and I'm scared that she would tell me to talk to her and I don't think I can I'm currently trying cut myself out it's been so hard but I encourage everyone who is going through a toxic relationship (EVEN WITH YOUR MOTHER)to limit contact or cut it all off REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE NOT ALONE
I believe the only way you can heal from this type of abuse AND protect yourself from attracting the same kind of dysfunctional relationship again; is to become aware of your core fear/pain and the root trauma that produced it from your childhood...before the cognitive pre frontal cortex in your brain was fully wired. Please if you are in this type of relationship, research codepency and how your unconscious brain creates it. peace and love.
You know when l realized my "mind trauma" was so bad? When l tried to read a book...... Something that used to be so easy. And what l am reading l can't focus on because l am so scared.
Never had a man who has put me down. One word of abuse or an angry act - and I'm out of this relationship. My father was a narc, so that made me sensitive and aware. I've never carried this example of horrible behavior that I witnessed in my childhood to my relationships with other people.
So helpful, thankyou! I had no idea what a narcissist really was until I ended up in a relationship with a textbook narcissist. He had me convinced I was crazy and I was the problem...until I got into therapy & realized what a dangerous situation I was really in. I had never been abused in this way before and it was scary to learn how truly evil a human being can be. Thank God I was able to get away with my life.
My ex moved one block away from me. I made it one year almost no contact. And then I’m walking down me street and there she is sitting in her porch. This channel helped me so much. I was doing so well. And ever since she moved 50 yards from me, I have regressed. The trauma bond and the false memories of love have been coming back. A trigger of my ptsd from it. It’s been hard for me, and I’m upset about it.
Explained my entire life. This video is the single most important video I’ve ever watched in my entire life. All that I can say is thank you. I’m so fucking grateful for this.
Watching your videos has truly helped me in getting out of an abusive relationship with my ex boyfriend who is clearly a narcissist. I could never thank you enough!
Your videos are the ones that I can most relate to. I'm currently writing a book about what it's like to deal with narcissistic abuse all my life, starting with my own mother. I want to say thank you, thank you, thank you for all the info that is not only helping me, but so many others out there who have endured abuse.
It may work out!! May... Try to figure out what is making her act that way and talk to her to see if there could be change in her behavior... I’m sure you guys are both in love
It's amazing learning all of this stuff, these terms I've heard in my life, that they actually APPLY to me. I was always forced to believe growing up that everything that was happening in my life was normal, my family was normal, that it was ME that was the problem. So much of this just warrants "a-ha" moments where I can say, "Now that makes sense!" The abuse was always coated in love and "protection". Oh, I worry about you. But she didn't worry as much about her other children. It was always JUST me. I was chosen to be kept close...to not escape her. It's sicker the more I think of it.
My sister is completely captured by her abusive husband. It’s been 50 years of endless abuse with exactly the scenario you described. We are trying so hard to get her out of there but she is a total Stockholm syndrome scenario. Thank you so much for putting this video on, I have sent it to her
I am a man and I was in an abusive relationship with a woman. I called around town and found there were TONS of places for women who were abused. Finally got an answer from a social worker who said, "The only thing a man can do to get away from a woman is either run away or get arrested."
Instead of blaming feminism that men don't get the support, why not you do something like start a support group for men. Women don't get their support groups and safe places from day one. It started some time in history when people realized that it is a significant problem that need help. So you see that men don't get help being abused, then start doing something about it instead of blaming other victims who managed to get help.
When shelters for abused women first started, mainstream thinking is that what happens in a family should not be interfered by outsiders. Many at that time will even consider that wife-beating is acceptable so long as the wife did not suffer disabling injuries. The "systemic" and "sexist" bias against women who dare to voice against their husbands are staggering high. Views have changed today, but women did not get the protection (which is still far not enough) they have from day one, and not without many people working and supporting to get those protection in place. If you truly think that the same kind of protection need to be in place for men, then you have to do something to get your agenda out there, but you don't get to blame other victims for getting help.
Augure Zera So you mean to say, because men knew very well what it is like to be treated as "lesser than" especially "by women", men have been engaging in the systematic sexist treatment of treating women as lesser being for milleniums. It is quite something to come across a man who is so proud of that fact.
This is one of the best explanations of the Stockholm Syndrome I have heard. Thank you. It is torturous. The cognitive dissonance- you know what you’re feeling is completely irrational but you cannot stop the feelings. He’s been physically gone for 8 months but one email or text message sucks me right back in. And then I’m messed up in my head for weeks. He did such sadistic, malevolent things to me yet I hurt for him and don’t want anything bad to happen to him. I feel guilty for moving on and experiencing happiness, as if I’m betraying or abandoning him, when he wouldn’t even piss on me if I was on fire. Sorry but that is the best analogy for how this person has treated me for over two years now. I’m trying to move on now and am feeling such intense guilt and grief. All I can hope is that “this too shall pass.” I’ve met someone so incredible and wonderful yet I feel a sadness that he doesn’t have the same. I need to remember that on some level he doesn’t want that type of intimacy with another human being. But that other part of me feels sorry for him because he is broken and incapable. I have way too much empathy I know.
I love how she ends her videos without asking us to "like and subscribe" :) It makes me feel like she's really genuine in making these videos and isn't just doing them for likes.
I am stuck in this right now and it's become so bad that I don't even know who I am anymore and I can't concentrate, think straight, or anything anymore. I feel so lost, hurt, and ashamed.
as a 4th grader on a farm, our barn caught fire, the volunteer fire dept was able to get all of the horses, sheep, goats and cattle out of the barn. The sheep and goats ran back into the barn and burned alive-they knew the barn as home, even denying what they were seeing with their eyes. Always reminded me of an abused woman going back to the abuser.
This video was life changing for me after my divorce. Thank you so much for this. I saw this for the first time back in 2017 shortly after my divorce, and I was wracked every day with grief and I saw this video and it made me break down and cry in my offfice because I realized what I had just lived with for the past 17 years. Trash took itself out. I was lucky and I love this video
I kept being hooked even after my narc ex broke up with me. finally 8months later, I found out he cheated on me for half of our relationship. now I'm trying to get out and get a job and he's trying to use fear to scare me back to not leaving with moments of being nice and trying to enforce "family moments" with our son. he's trying to talk to me all the time. I'm not letting him back into my heart.
burrochapadogrl good for you! I highly recommend you start preparing your exit and no contact strategy like yesterday. This is the ONLY way you'll be free of his control. Sending you love and light. You can do it!
Lisa Tsuda I'm SO sorry for your SUFFERING. i HAVE ISSUES TOO. im JUST REALLY learning how deep my own rabbit's hole is.... i JUST WANTED to say YOUR NOT ALONE. I'm TRYING to learn to heal and ✔ my own behaviour...take CARE of YOU
thank you so much for this video this is exactly what I went through I was strip in every way possible it was degrading,disgusted,abusive, mentally, physically and emotionally.they make you believe everything is your fault and your the crazy one and this is a family dynamic they all work together. they pay for everything and took me to dinners pay for hotels but I didn't know or realize I was being set up because what came after that was a total nightmare I really thought I was not gonna make out alive. I have been 4months no contact. I had a difficult time dealing with this because when I finally woke up from this nightmare it was torture the pain was so bad I just didn't know how I was going to deal with it.but I'm healing, I'm feeling much better because now I have an understanding of what had happened to me. I never thought that I would be could out there like that. I was very naive about people like that this.I was to trusting to nice and your right everything they do for you is thrown right back in your face and if they gave you something you owe them something and if you don't do what they say you better best and believe the verbal and emotional abuse is coming really bad.im just happy I final wokeupt it took me 8 years of my life to find out about narcissistic abuse and narcissistic supply. these people don't care if you die they are pathic they feed off other people pain and destroy lifes.they don't love they hate they are empty soul.
Thank you, Meredith. Such a great explanation! The nice/mean/nice/mean pendulum swings widely or closely, depending on the narcissist's mood - what's going on at work, with his(her) harem, etc. When I have DARED to thwart his plans or when he's bored or frustrated, I am punished. When he's feeling good, I am rewarded. It's the not knowing what's going on, what will happen next with him (her) that gets the target in trouble. Thank you for letting us know that even a text or email can cause us to get sucked back into the dance with the narcissist. Once no contact, I intend to block him from my cell and email. I will keep in mind that there are ways around that. I'm fortunate in having friends who treat me well and I have online support from people like you. I'm much more fortunate than my mother, who had no shelters or other means of support in dealing with my narcissist father. She stayed 42 years, poor thing, and never really recovered. I intend to use all the resources available to me, including EMDR therapy, to get through this. ❤️
Inner Integration Wow. I don't know what's going on at this time...Ive got Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & a thyroid problem....so my significant other has been helping me, but being that he wanted to do NORMAL things like get a job (which I wouldn't usually think is wrong), it's like I've been trying to prevent it. But its like he wants to do GOOD things like travel out of town and take up work...when I'm incapacitated. However, I'm unsure if he's the narcissist, or if I am...because I need his help. I want to leave soooo badly, and I thought he does all of this, but I don't SEE the harm anymore....I'm starting to wonder if any of it has happened at all...and its been almost 6 years!
Wow,I can’t get enough of your content! My heart is shattered. Losing my 4 year relationship has left me empty and broken. I'm drowning in grief, suffocating under my own despair. My heart is barely beating..
I'm so sorry to hear that. I've been through a similar experience before, and it was a dark time. But a spiritual counselor helped me heal and find peace. Would you like me to connect you with him?
I'm an RN and always knew about stockholm syndrome, but you explained it so well, so much better than I've ever grasped it and the implications of it. As well as the fall out and what to do after. I saw the red flags in a guy i met then dated three years ago. I was fine for two years after breaking up after a short four month relationship, then went back last spring when I had a problem and he - out of nowhere - offered to help. That one exchange, just like you said, that one contact....... I just moved out of a DV shelter last week. I also, as I was watching your video, had the "duh" realization to block him on my phone (I didn't at first because he was so scary I kind of wanted to see his reaction so that I knew 'what was out there' waiting for me when I got out, still, it's been six weeks, it's time to block him, i can't believe I forgot that). This video was fantastic from start to finish. Thank you.
Interesting. I was in fear for my life once, made by my own irresponsible choice of a man, who would have killed me if not for the fact that my brother put him in the hospital !! He never bothered me again. These horrible abusive people are the worst cowards !
Thank you so much for this video in particular. I have been stuck with cognitive dissonance for months now, and can't push forward. Of all the videos I've been watching, yours have helped me tremendously. I have been trying so hard to keep no contact, but everyday is a struggle. She discarded me months ago, and is now starting to reach out for me. I have blocked her number now, and all other social media. Thank you so much for your help. Please keep making videos, especially about female covert narcissists. It's so hard to find any on women.
OMG! This is so crazy. I'm in the middle of a break up with the man i have been living with for the last 2 years. I have been very silent about how bad I have been feeling for a long time, and when I did speak about it I felt like I could not find the right words, when I said it out loud it just sounded so weak. It didn't justify how it felt at all. Everybody loves him and thinks that he is a great guy so I was never believed or seen when I tried to say that he was not treating med very nicely. He never physically abused me, but he is a very selfish guy who only does good things for others if he gains something from it. He does have sympathy, but no empathy and that is where I think people got tricked, so did I before I had been with him long enough to see the difference. And it's so hard to have people meet you with that special look that they give you when they think you are overreacting or lying. But the things you said in this video gave me the strength that I need to be confident in my choice to leave and take care of ME. Thank you.
This is a old post but I'm currently going through the after math of this same issue. He is running my name to the ground like I am the crazy one. He did all the wrong with his side chick yet he is okay and I'm suffering 😥
Thank you for including the man perspective. It is true that they are left out of the abusive conversation. I could only imagine how hard it is for them to be even believed.
Towards the end.. felt like you were REALLY talking to me and helping me like as a really good , loving, caring friend would. Thank you so much for this! Happy healing to all going through this rough patch!
This has to be the best description on narc behaviour. If only I'd seen this video 5 years ago! I've been narc free for 6 months now and my life has drastically improved. However I do still suffer from PTSD from that relationship, which is why I subscribe to your channel. Keep the great knowledge and advice coming Meredith!❤️
wow, this is me! i lost my home, reputation, and unfortunately i lost my two daughters. but i had to escape. its so strange but healing when i look back and then watch this!!!
4:00 So nice to see a woman atleast acknowledging situations where women abuse men or systems are set up unfairly against men. This makes you feel less isolated and hurt as a man 🙏
OH MY GOD!!! You’re killing me with truth!!!😥. I now truly understand the term “The truth hurts”. Thanks for the true clarity. I seem to keep consistently going around in circles with making sense of this!
I thank God to have found your videos I’m a grown man. More alpha than beta. An athlete. I’m trapped in a relationship with a physically abusive woman. No one will believe it. Bitten ear, broken tooth, fractured wrist, trashed car. Broken spirit. Held against my will at home. Missed work. More than once, she hurt herself and filed a restraining order on me. I was trapped until I broke it off. Now like a drug I’m going through withdrawals. I am so grateful to have these words. It gives me the power to persevere.
Yes huge correlation with our society, culture, and media, I really see it there!! Our captors are not just the narcissist in our lives but the ones that run our country. We all have captors (aka authority figures) that keep us isolated and stuck in our day to lives, homes, and state, etc. A simple example is to think about how the coronavirus was handled and still being handled. You will be told it’s for “your safety“ but it’s really just about manipulation, power, and control. This makes me think how everybody has Stockholm syndrome on a higher level due to the narcissistic abuse and gaslighting of our own country, society, government, systems etc. we are all under the spell of “freedom” however we are anything but free!!! Think about it... Great video as always thank you for helping us!
Thank you for all these AMAZING videos Meredith Miller!! There are billions yes BILLIONS, of women worldwide trapped with men they had children with. It's cultural in many regions worldwide. And, it's tragic.
Thank you for your very accurate information. I have Stockholm syndrome, I have left and moved 3 hours drive away to try and keep myself away from him. Over our 12 years he isolated me from friends and family and what you said about the narcissist creating a discomfort before going out to see people is exactly spot on. He slowly removed furniture from our house so there was nowhere to sit if people came visiting. Our huge house had 1 seat for him and 1 seat for me. You are doing a wonderful job at educating and healing survivors. Excellent videos! Thank you again 😊
Thank you. You have perfectly described my mother. She & my sister tried to take my life 6 months ago. Not being believed has been a painful cross to bare throughout my life! I ahve lost everything. But I confronted my spiteful mother ^ was lucky to escape with my life or sanity. In sheltered housing now. My story so 'unbelievable' I can hardly broach the subject with anyone. Thank you once again!
It is so true that you can get pulled back into the abusive situation if you don't see clearly. You have to understand that a covert narcissist is not going to change, that many of their acts are premeditated, that kindness is a lure and their compulsion to abuse you will never stop. Stay away from them. Don't feel sorry for them. There are good people in the world. You're not alone and support is available. Thank you Meredith. Your videos have helped me so much.
This made me feel really good and on the right path. I wish I was around these sources as a child. I was always seeking for answers. Coping through it can be so rough. I feel I have learned well to disarm the abuse. Though you never really know who is lurking. It doesn't matter. I am comfy, I will cry and stubbornly go. You cross a line. I will deal with it fairly.
All I can say is wow!! Amazing video and exactly what I have been going through for the past 2 decades with my ex wife. I’m actually teared up right now watching this because it’s SO real and SO accurate. Almost like the first time someone has understood my circumstance and put it into words.
my ex narc contacted me on holidays and is hovering again plus my narc parents during holidays and I'm spent ..a constant reminder is needed to why I have to move on..your videos explore the dynamic of hetero relationships but in the gay community narcissism pathological lying constant cheating is looked upon as commonplace and a survival mechanism ..this entire nation is suffering from varying degrees of Stockholm Syndrome. God help us thanks for all you do
Thank you so much for explaining and dissecting this the way you did. You couldn’t have used better examples and I am grateful this video showed up because I recently got out of an extremely toxic relationship where I felt trapped, and hopeless mostly because of HER personal issues. She was depending completely on me, she didn’t want to get a job nor was studying and had literally no communication with any member of her family for personal reasons. This made the situation worse because I was literally responsible for everything regarding her and after a year living together I felt like I couldn’t just run away like that. I never imagined feeling so much darkness in my life, I was very unhappy and lost of myself as a person. We must always stay true to ourselves and find our happiness even if the process hurts!!! Thank you again and God bless you always Meredith 🙏🏼💙
Thank you so much for the work you are doing. And a special thank you for your focus on covert narcissism. Ignorance around makes it really hard to heal and to relearn how to trust oneself.
I was a victim for two years and i have been coping in unhealthy ways. I didn’t realize how extent the abuse was until watching this and relating to this video and it helped me understand that i need help
Someone I care very much for is very clearly experiencing Stockholm Syndrome. I work with folks who are victims of cluster B's for a living too and a good friend of mine has an abusive spouse who tries to remove them from their friends and tell them that none of us care about this person and that if this person continues seeing their friends, this emotionally abusive spouse will take my friend's kids away. Btw when I say friends, I literally means ALL FRIENDS. Not one, but all. I miss this person terribly and I miss their friendship and am very concerned for my friend's well-being.
Yes, I have a dear friend too ....it is the saddest thing ever...one has a very strong Moon sign "scorpio" and the other has the weakest no boundary sign "Pisces" moon. and the one with the Scorpio moon has a "Aries" venus... i assure you she has done it all to him and is always many steps ahead.
I was moved to Ga from Wa state, promised we would move back after one year.. my whole support system is in Wa. 20 years of being alone in a small town .. every move I make is tracked & all phone calls texts ect is watched… I pray & hope to feel safe & the truth will be brought to light
This is a great video explaining what Stockholm Syndrome is and how it works to keeps people stuck in a very abusive relationship. What I think is missing from this video is mentioning the need for supports, including professionals. Most people in these situations have been conditioned over time to normalize this extreme level of trauma bond and getting out is not going to happen simply by watching a video. To get out requires a lot of courage, first and for most, and an acknowledgement of what's happening. It requires some form of therapy or counselling to help the survivor gain the tools required to build and maintain boundaries, to establish and reinforce a safety plan, and to relocate and develop life skills which will include ways of reconnecting and building up their authentic self. Many folks who are in trauma bond relationship that we can equate to a Stockholm Syndrome situation live with the person who has significant control over them, sometimes they share children and/or pets, sometimes they own assets together and sometimes they live in isolated and remote areas where there's barriers to access transportation. Sometimes they have no access to funds, telecommunications, and their physical safety is at risk if they do attempt to leave. I think including a message to try and get local police or other emergency services would be great to include in this video. Also, if a phone or computer is not accessible to do so, reaching out to a neighbor or a person driving by or someone in a store (etc). It's a huge step to walk away from such a situation when a person is ready or contemplating leaving. Yet, seeing the way out and knowing what to do to get out safely and to stay away and begin the healing and recovery process requires a lot of work. That work will depend on the supports and the survivor understanding what's available to help them navigate a very complex reality. I know someone in this situation and that is why I'm watching this video. They've attempted to leave the situation many times and always get sucked back in. Part of the reason is because breaking the cycle isn't easy as survivors become attached to the dysfunction and feel uncomfortable and lack trust with the experience safety and being away from their abuser. They also often don't know how to tap into their ability to ask for help to protect and preserve their life. They need help for this and sometimes accessing the necessary supports is not easy or readily accessible. The time that spans between those supports providing the necessary supports is when the survivor usually returns to the abuser or simply decides to stay. It's similar to someone trying to overcome an addiction. If the treatment centre is not there right when the user is ready to leave, the time between a bed becoming available is when the user finds their next fix.
One of the best nights sleep I have had for ages- thank you. Ho ho ho, so that's what it is all about. Not too difficult when explained in such a way as the video does. We the abused have some ammunition whereas before just tottering to survive. My narc/abuser flies in today returning from his country to no job, no place to stay, no money and although no communication while away will possibly head up to my home. Just in the nick of time by chance view this video. Doors firmly shut and phone off. Three years of roller coasting finished. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The brain is in control now. xxxxx
It's really about the abuser's access to tools/technology & "technological networking" against the victim through "covert" harassment. This IS VERY scary!
What I hate the most about this is that they look so innocent and sweet and that everyone believes them.
Exactly! Ever notice how they do the silent effect, stay silent, act like "what?" tongue in cheek". Shine you on, no comments. Ignore you. Like the DNC... ACT STUPID, then blame you for bringing up their behavior as if you are the one punishing and damaging to them!
I know you feel man,it really sucks
Bingo
True
I think these terminologies such as supply and discard from the experts are labels that I feel makes women or men being defined as object and is degrading. Also, it is very generalized tunnel vision ideation, that makes me as human being just focus on negative aspects, I do not see any positive, please health clinicians , there are so many factors involved, and saying there is no hope is the saddest thing to say to help and support a person who needs the help.
"no one believes you." This is a huge problem! Then you start doubting your own perceptions and your intuition gets killed off. You don't trust yourself anymore.
I know what you mean. Especially if they started their smear campaign early on.
My ex narc actually said these words to me
In private of course... it makes you feel so powerless
So true, thus it's the best starting point to move away from their narrative, pay no attention to the BS they're saying, tell your own truth when appropriate. Be a decent person - other decent people will appreciate this. Flying monkeys and narcs will not - which is good!
@@kyraaborkman what? Did he confess that he knew how this would impact your intuition negatively? Your sense of self?
that's the worst! having the intuition killed off. You just said it, the one thing a narcissist can't stand the most: someone's intuition
Your right! Its that abusive then 10 min later nice and kind. You feel like your crazy. That back and forth is mentally and emotionally exausting.
Yes it is....hes out .....this has been 7 years...off n on....i always get sucked back in....but i have done some work....i feel so dumb sometimes for falling back into it
makindreams cometrue don’t feel dumb. i get it, i pray you get out.
I experience this weekly
I thought they were just bipolar
The cycle is brutal, it is exhausting.
The way I got past the abuse amnesia was to write on a calendar at work the word "REMEMBER" whenever I was abused physically, mentally, emotionally, or financially. It really helped me escape.
yes! but then they say ur not forgiving (religious people are the worst). but thankfully i got out of religion and that oppression
corsican lulu I know that a lot of 'religious' people judge, if they're Christians they're supposed to try their best not to do that, the bible clearly tells us Christians to 'fix' ourselves first and never judge the non-Christian, to only be kind to them. But this is hard for Christians and non Christians alike, were still only human. I do want to point out that though the bible tells us to forgive, That is mostly for our own benefit, to clear us of that negative energy. The bible also tells us this: Proverbs 4:23 'Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life.' We shouldn't let people trample over us again and again and again this causes us to become cold and unforgiving, we must guard our hearts so that other people don't make us bitter, angry or steal our energy for life and love. We as men think we're so smart that we don't need God, if we just read the bible we'd find the answers have been here all along. Also if you seek him with all of your heart, you will find him and he helps you change if you are willing to do the prayer work. I've had two revelations in the last year & I can tell you that I am sure Jesus is who the bible says he is. God bless you and may he give you eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart that is able to discern:)
P.S. It's great to learn from other wise teachers whose basic principals mirror teachings of the bible, these videos have been very kind and helpful!
I've been Christian since age 10. God knows I'm a work in progress. He knows what I've been through. It's Him who was there watching me get whipped by my own belt over and over again. I have the "remember" poster put on the wall to remind ME not to let my guard down again and to have Him guide me on the path I need to go. Thank you Bri.
I have kept a journal for years and I am sooo glad I did. If I had not I would not have any sense of all the confusion the Narc created.
Great idea thank u
It hurts to imagine life without my boyfriend. I never thought it would come to this point where I might have to let go. I know this may not be the right place to share this, but I feel like I’m gradually losing myself, and I don’t know what to do. I’m holding tightly to the beautiful moments we shared, and I sincerely hope he finds happiness.
I completely understand how you feel. I went through something similar when my long term relationship ended. It felt like my heart was shattered, and no matter how much time passed, I couldn’t let go of the memories. I tried everything to get him back talking to friends for advice, even writing letters I never sent. Eventually, I found help through Father Tosin Ayodele, who came through for me and helped me get my man back.
Wow, this really gives me hope. How can I get in touch with Father Tosin Ayodele?
It’s super easy! His handle is, Father Tosin Ayodele. Just reach out and explain your situation to him. He’s a great listener and offers helpful advice too.
Thank you so much! 🙏 You’re right sharing really does bring solutions. I’m so grateful.
This is so inspiring. My mind has been consumed with thoughts of him. It's been 6zmonths since he left, and the pain feels like a physical ache. The laughter, the memories, the adventures they're all gone. I've tried to distract myself, but the harder I try, the more I think about him. How do people truly move on? The memories are still so vivid, and I miss him more than words can express.
Sweetheart, I’m so sorry you’re going through this. My heart aches for you. Last year, my fiancé ended our 3 year relationship without explanation, and I cried every night. It was one of the darkest times in my life. But I want you to know you’re not alone I’m here for you. In my search for healing, I reached out to Father Tosin Ayodele, a spiritual counselor, and it made all the difference. With his guidance, my fiancé and I reconnected, and we’re back together now.
A spiritual counselor? That sounds fascinating. How can I reach out to him?
His handle is Father Tosin Ayodele . He specializes in rekindling the spark in broken relationships.
Thank you so much for sharing this I really appreciate your honesty and openness.
i recommend father tosin ayodele saved my marriage with my husband 💕now we are together again in love and oneness thank you sir 💕I'm grateful
The devil is always trying to knock on your door. Just remember the abuse so that when it comes wearing a different mask (person) you can run ASAP.
I hope so. who wants to keep this up all their lives?
Everyone is EVIL....be afraid ALL THE TIME....nice way to live.
Fart Knocker unfortunately until the laws catch up instead of fear , i had to learn ways not to give the Narcissistic supply. Im no doormat but when women speak out on this issue , thats awesome. I just screen any dating situations and they still slip through.
Be ready to launch a full scale assault against the devil when he shows up at your door. Problem solved.
It’s hurts to think of life without my boyfriend, I never imagined it would get to this point where I would let go. I know im not supposed to write this here but I’m gradually loosing myself and I don’t know what to do. I’m still holding unto the beautiful moments we shared and I hope that he finds happiness.
I completely understand how you feel. I went through something similar when my long term relationship ended. It felt like my heart was shattered, and no matter how much time passed, I couldn’t shake the memories. I tried everything to get him back, from reaching out to friends for advice to even writing letters I never sent. Eventually, I came across this Father Tosin Ayodele who came through for me and helped get my man back.
Wow, this really lifted my spirit.
How do I get in touch with this Father Tosin Ayodele
It’s so easy, his handle is Father Tosin Ayodele just talk to him about it Trust me he’s a very good listener and gives good therapy too.
Thank u so much🙏 indeed sharing problems brings solution
Im so grateful
Fuck. I hardly cuss but...fuck. It's the worst when you realize it's your own mother--your own narcissistic mother and your enabling father who did this to you. I'm still trying to move out, in secret, and I hardly even know where to begin. Help! Pray for me. This sucks.
It's painful alright. A deep soul suffering to experience. It's a total shock to system, mind body and soul to the possibility of a humanity w no conscious.
Same thing happened to me. And then I dated one who ruined my life. Praying for you definitely.
I know exactly how you feel! I will pray for God to set the captives FREE!!!
My mom is that way. I went no contact 2 months ago. Look up as many resources as possible. Prayers and hugs to the both of you.
I grew up in a cult and the leftover damage has left a bad residue with my mom. I was blessed twenty years ago to have been able to escape to the other side of the country. I enjoyed 11 years of unbelievable Joy by going completely No-Contact but I was found by a cult member and it went down hill again. I Have faith that I will one day be set free again, for good,
Thank you for addressing men get abused. My own mother doesn't even think men can be abused , To show you how bad that Dynamic is
I watched a frienemie do this to her ex husband. I believed her until she was attempting covertly destroy me.
I have all the signs of Stockholm. No wonder I feel so stupid, fearful, lost, confused, besides the fundamental signs that come through isolation, slandering, gaslighting, etc.
And triangulation.
When we look at ourselves w empathy, it really sheds light on what survivors we are. It makes it easier to forgive self for falling for this SPELL.
+SHINE FORTH if it's ever possible to speak more about this. I truly believe we are enduring this primarily in our recovery above all everything else.
right there now
I just realized this as well, so many narc survivors go through this conditioning not knowing.
SHINE FORTH
I know this feeling
"No one believes you" ...that part.
Yes they are master manipulators. For example my mother would kick the shite out of me for no particular reason before I would drive her to the doctors. She would act all angelic in front of the doctor. And when we got home she'd slap me silly because she HAD to slap me silly before we went to the doctors. Causing her blood pressure to go up! Now im out of the situation i just laugh. As i get older people say to me who where too polite to say it at the time say 'ur the one with the weird mother arnt u?' People make there own conclusions up. Talk is cheap and she still thinks she looks holier than thou. But despite all the haters and smear campainers. Her actions speak louder than words. Give people more credit. They are much more observant than you think 😉👍♥️💚
It's hard to accept that the person you loved the most is your abuser. And so hard that this person can't be changed
Bullies, violent people and those who pick on the weak and vulnerable,
are the lowest of the low. They represent the worst amongst us. I have
no respect for those type of people. Anybody can act tough with those
who are weak and vulnerable. I could get a small animal and bully it
or be violent towards it. Picking on those weaker than you is not clever.
It's not an achievement. I don't do it because I have self respect.
predators are weak and soulless
David Walker Being weak and accepting that doesn't deserve respect or empathy whatsoever.
@James ScalzoSchadenfreude describes the sick twisted pleasure they get in hurting others. They operate under the demonic spirit of Jezebel.
@James Scalzo ok what do u mean by that? That the demons r the abusers?
You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! ESPECIALLY POLICEMEN AND THE ARMED FORCES ARE AMONG THE MOST COWARD PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE WORLD! Only a true coward hides behind a weapon of mass destruction. They are not there to protect us, they are there to PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST US AND TO GUARD THEIR DAMMED MONEY!
by the end of my marriage, when the abuse had escalated to crazy levels, every time I was about to leave our apartment, my ex-husband would create drama. So I got stuck in this insane argument with him, would cry a lot, feel horrible and then I always decided not to leave... wow! your video opened my eyes! that was also part of his sick game.
+Ipe Amarelo Exactly! When you see the bigger patterns it's like OMG!
Ipe Amarelo My narc soon to be ex husband would create a fight and when I would leave, he would leave our kids at home by themselves. I'd have to leave my friends and come home. I stopped going out. I was miserable.
Me too, exactly.
I can relate to your situation Ipe Amarelo but that was 3 years ago for you. But it's been 3 weeks for me.
this goes for people who wont let you be free to express yourself
You mean feminists?
Kareen Mondesir my mother brainwashed me to believe my African features/natural hair is ugly.
I’ve been through the Stockholm syndrome
It’s something that happens to a vulnerable person.
Trans here. We know 👍
You are a good speaker.... and you stay on point and you don't "Ramble" too much like other videos do...thank you for your series!
Dee Bee
I agree..and its professional she is wonderfully articulate
Dee Bee She is also THE BEST on this topic in the Spanish Language. She is the Sam Vaknin of the Spanish language.
Eileen Viteri
Ramble? Sounds like you subscribe to NARC lingo .that's abusive to say ppl ramble ..just saying. .its ugly
I agree 100%
I agree!
Thank you for mentioning the way the system is biased against men in this regard, acknowledging that abuse of men does happen too.
I was raised by a very toxic mother and a codependent father. I totally get that. I see how my brother attracts toxic women. About 50% of my coaching clients are men and I've seen what they've been through. Only a few of them were abused by men, most of them were abused by women. This problem spans all cultures, genders, socio-economic statuses, and races. Big hug!
you're making the world a better place.
I can't thank you enough. I have blocked him from all contact and I have resisted all urges I've had to reach out to him. He was cruel to me yet I know if he contacted me and asked me to come over I would.
This is the BEST DESCRIPTION of trauma bonding that I’ve ever heard.
This brought me to tears. I just went through a divorce from a 23 year long marriage. We have kids together so unfortunately I have to have contact. I finally blocked him from calling me, he can only email me, but he tries to pull me back in. What's crazy is he is already engaged to someone new, we've only been divorced since May. 😲
I could go on and on, thank you so much for this video it's one of the best on toxic abuse!
it has nothing to do w/ his new relationship ... the high they get from messing w/you is better than sex it last longer ... I hope it goes better for you ...my ex did not stop till my youngest turned 18 it was constantly CS or child custody... he had me in court all the time it is a control issue ... when I served him w/divorce papers he said "you will live in the street " i should have listened ...he meant it
Wow. This was incredible to hear. I finally left my narcissistic partner this year and I’ve never felt better
I am strong, but I am broken. thank you for sharing and educating.
Big hug!
Hugs!
Thanks for sharing im broken that im taking it a minuete at a time.
Janice, the biggest lights on this planet are somewhat "broken". These are the people who carry a lot of hope for humanity. You are not alone...sending much love and hugs to you.
You just took step one!
Everything you're saying speaks to my situation with my mom. Kindness, but with control and cruelty. I want to learn more.
I just went thru hell my partner had isolated me .he tried to kill me .I survived .don't let anyone manipulate you see the red flags and run from that person.
I agree.
...mine did kill
Me. Strangulation and broken neck. Nine minutes dead. I'm a survivor...I'm here to help anyone as a.life coach.men and women. Nikkicardarella78@gmail.com
My mum got me believe I am useless and cannot survive on my own. I felt helpless but bonding withher she was so important for me and she would not let me grow up she kept treating me as a child and dependent and she hated that I wanted to be an adult and I have been fighting with her my whole life. And she did kind things or spoke kindly and that always hooked me and I started to believe that she is okay perhaps we can mend our relationship and forever feeling guilty that our relationship is not good. Now, I relaize it could have never become better.
klári geiszler I think your mom was a single mother and that's why she did that. You growing up would result into you leaving her embrace and she'd be left alone.
klári geiszler
I gotta do what’s best for me People
I too god
Don’t Fuck My Feels
Assholes 100%
Watch Jordan Peterson’s lecture on the Oedipal Mother. You will finally have a clinical explanation of what happened to you. If she did this, cut her out of your life.
Wow, wow and WOW!!!
I thought that this happened only to me but apparently it is a real condition affecting many people out there!
Thank you so much for your thorough explanation and for this alertness you are giving us...
Highly appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
YOUR NOT ALONE! STAY SRONG
I've been out of contact for almost 2 months and it's been the hardest thing ever, every call triggers panic attack and not from the narcissist her self but from her mother and I'm scared that she would tell me to talk to her and I don't think I can
I'm currently trying cut myself out it's been so hard but I encourage everyone who is going through a toxic relationship (EVEN WITH YOUR MOTHER)to limit contact or cut it all off
REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE NOT ALONE
I believe the only way you can heal from this type of abuse AND protect yourself from attracting the same kind of dysfunctional relationship again; is to become aware of your core fear/pain and the root trauma that produced it from your childhood...before the cognitive pre frontal cortex in your brain was fully wired. Please if you are in this type of relationship, research codepency and how your unconscious brain creates it. peace and love.
Absolutely!
Core fear is always abandonment even for abusers
Thanks for your support Shane L!Take care.x
You know when l realized my "mind trauma" was so bad? When l tried to read a book...... Something that used to be so easy. And what l am reading l can't focus on because l am so scared.
Never had a man who has put me down. One word of abuse or an angry act - and I'm out of this relationship. My father was a narc, so that made me sensitive and aware. I've never carried this example of horrible behavior that I witnessed in my childhood to my relationships with other people.
So helpful, thankyou! I had no idea what a narcissist really was until I ended up in a relationship with a textbook narcissist. He had me convinced I was crazy and I was the problem...until I got into therapy & realized what a dangerous situation I was really in. I had never been abused in this way before and it was scary to learn how truly evil a human being can be. Thank God I was able to get away with my life.
This!
My ex moved one block away from me. I made it one year almost no contact. And then I’m walking down me street and there she is sitting in her porch.
This channel helped me so much. I was doing so well. And ever since she moved 50 yards from me, I have regressed. The trauma bond and the false memories of love have been coming back. A trigger of my ptsd from it.
It’s been hard for me, and I’m upset about it.
Explained my entire life. This video is the single most important video I’ve ever watched in my entire life. All that I can say is thank you. I’m so fucking grateful for this.
Watching your videos has truly helped me in getting out of an abusive relationship with my ex boyfriend who is clearly a narcissist. I could never thank you enough!
"Thought I would forget, but I remember so thanks for making me a fighter" !
Your videos are the ones that I can most relate to. I'm currently writing a book about what it's like to deal with narcissistic abuse all my life, starting with my own mother. I want to say thank you, thank you, thank you for all the info that is not only helping me, but so many others out there who have endured abuse.
Kim Thorne-Harper that's courageous! I'll keep a look out for your book
I would love to read your story. I just figured out after many years that I’m suffering from trauma bond
your videos have really helped me awaken. Im in a toxic relationship, with a baby coming. i am a man, and its so painful , the guilt and abuse.
Francis Deflavia leave dude.
It may work out!! May...
Try to figure out what is making her act that way and talk to her to see if there could be change in her behavior... I’m sure you guys are both in love
🙏
I was in this for over 20 years. I felt so trapped with no escape. When he finally discarded me, I felt a sense of relief.
It's amazing learning all of this stuff, these terms I've heard in my life, that they actually APPLY to me. I was always forced to believe growing up that everything that was happening in my life was normal, my family was normal, that it was ME that was the problem. So much of this just warrants "a-ha" moments where I can say, "Now that makes sense!" The abuse was always coated in love and "protection". Oh, I worry about you. But she didn't worry as much about her other children. It was always JUST me. I was chosen to be kept close...to not escape her. It's sicker the more I think of it.
My sister is completely captured by her abusive husband. It’s been 50 years of endless abuse with exactly the scenario you described. We are trying so hard to get her out of there but she is a total Stockholm syndrome scenario. Thank you so much for putting this video on, I have sent it to her
Does she get mad at you when you try to tell her what's going on?
I am a man and I was in an abusive relationship with a woman. I called around town and found there were TONS of places for women who were abused. Finally got an answer from a social worker who said, "The only thing a man can do to get away from a woman is either run away or get arrested."
that needs to change. have u heard of erin pizzey?
Feminism says psychology and science don't apply to you if you're a man.
Instead of blaming feminism that men don't get the support, why not you do something like start a support group for men. Women don't get their support groups and safe places from day one. It started some time in history when people realized that it is a significant problem that need help. So you see that men don't get help being abused, then start doing something about it instead of blaming other victims who managed to get help.
When shelters for abused women first started, mainstream thinking is that what happens in a family should not be interfered by outsiders. Many at that time will even consider that wife-beating is acceptable so long as the wife did not suffer disabling injuries. The "systemic" and "sexist" bias against women who dare to voice against their husbands are staggering high. Views have changed today, but women did not get the protection (which is still far not enough) they have from day one, and not without many people working and supporting to get those protection in place. If you truly think that the same kind of protection need to be in place for men, then you have to do something to get your agenda out there, but you don't get to blame other victims for getting help.
Augure Zera So you mean to say, because men knew very well what it is like to be treated as "lesser than" especially "by women", men have been engaging in the systematic sexist treatment of treating women as lesser being for milleniums. It is quite something to come across a man who is so proud of that fact.
This is one of the best explanations of the Stockholm Syndrome I have heard. Thank you. It is torturous. The cognitive dissonance- you know what you’re feeling is completely irrational but you cannot stop the feelings. He’s been physically gone for 8 months but one email or text message sucks me right back in. And then I’m messed up in my head for weeks. He did such sadistic, malevolent things to me yet I hurt for him and don’t want anything bad to happen to him. I feel guilty for moving on and experiencing happiness, as if I’m betraying or abandoning him, when he wouldn’t even piss on me if I was on fire. Sorry but that is the best analogy for how this person has treated me for over two years now. I’m trying to move on now and am feeling such intense guilt and grief. All I can hope is that “this too shall pass.” I’ve met someone so incredible and wonderful yet I feel a sadness that he doesn’t have the same. I need to remember that on some level he doesn’t want that type of intimacy with another human being. But that other part of me feels sorry for him because he is broken and incapable. I have way too much empathy I know.
I love how she ends her videos without asking us to "like and subscribe" :) It makes me feel like she's really genuine in making these videos and isn't just doing them for likes.
I am stuck in this right now and it's become so bad that I don't even know who I am anymore and I can't concentrate, think straight, or anything anymore. I feel so lost, hurt, and ashamed.
as a 4th grader on a farm, our barn caught fire, the volunteer fire dept was able to get all of the horses, sheep, goats and cattle out of the barn. The sheep and goats ran back into the barn and burned alive-they knew the barn as home, even denying what they were seeing with their eyes. Always reminded me of an abused woman going back to the abuser.
awww
This video was life changing for me after my divorce. Thank you so much for this. I saw this for the first time back in 2017 shortly after my divorce, and I was wracked every day with grief and I saw this video and it made me break down and cry in my offfice because I realized what I had just lived with for the past 17 years. Trash took itself out. I was lucky and I love this video
I kept being hooked even after my narc ex broke up with me. finally 8months later, I found out he cheated on me for half of our relationship. now I'm trying to get out and get a job and he's trying to use fear to scare me back to not leaving with moments of being nice and trying to enforce "family moments" with our son. he's trying to talk to me all the time. I'm not letting him back into my heart.
You're SO AWESOME!!!
burrochapadogrl good for you! I highly recommend you start preparing your exit and no contact strategy like yesterday. This is the ONLY way you'll be free of his control. Sending you love and light. You can do it!
burrochapadogrl yo I agree with you haha
Screw him lol
Walk away
Just do you
Oh my goodness I needed this more than ever!! Wow makes sense finally!! Thank you!!!
Big hug!
Lisa Tsuda I'm SO sorry for your SUFFERING. i HAVE ISSUES TOO. im JUST REALLY learning how deep my own rabbit's hole is.... i JUST WANTED to say YOUR NOT ALONE. I'm TRYING to learn to heal and ✔ my own behaviour...take CARE of YOU
Me too.
This was a really amazing video, thank you!
thank you so much for this video this is exactly what I went through I was strip in every way possible it was degrading,disgusted,abusive, mentally, physically and emotionally.they make you believe everything is your fault and your the crazy one and this is a family dynamic they all work together. they pay for everything and took me to dinners pay for hotels but I didn't know or realize I was being set up because what came after that was a total nightmare I really thought I was not gonna make out alive. I have been 4months no contact. I had a difficult time dealing with this because when I finally woke up from this nightmare it was torture the pain was so bad I just didn't know how I was going to deal with it.but I'm healing, I'm feeling much better because now I have an understanding of what had happened to me. I never thought that I would be could out there like that. I was very naive about people like that this.I was to trusting to nice and your right everything they do for you is thrown right back in your face and if they gave you something you owe them something and if you don't do what they say you better best and believe the verbal and emotional abuse is coming really bad.im just happy I final wokeupt it took me 8 years of my life to find out about narcissistic abuse and narcissistic supply. these people don't care if you die they are pathic they feed off other people pain and destroy lifes.they don't love they hate they are empty soul.
I had a strong Stockholm syndrome relationship with mother it took years for me to break free from her abuse.
Thank you, Meredith. Such a great explanation! The nice/mean/nice/mean pendulum swings widely or closely, depending on the narcissist's mood - what's going on at work, with his(her) harem, etc.
When I have DARED to thwart his plans or when he's bored or frustrated, I am punished. When he's feeling good, I am rewarded.
It's the not knowing what's going on, what will happen next with him (her) that gets the target in trouble.
Thank you for letting us know that even a text or email can cause us to get sucked back into the dance with the narcissist.
Once no contact, I intend to block him from my cell and email. I will keep in mind that there are ways around that.
I'm fortunate in having friends who treat me well and I have online support from people like you.
I'm much more fortunate than my mother, who had no shelters or other means of support in dealing with my narcissist father. She stayed 42 years, poor thing, and never really recovered.
I intend to use all the resources available to me, including EMDR therapy, to get through this.
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Good insights and I'm happy you have a plan for going No Contact. You can do it! Cheers to ending the trans-generational legacy of abuse! Big hug.
Inner Integration Wow. I don't know what's going on at this time...Ive got Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & a thyroid problem....so my significant other has been helping me, but being that he wanted to do NORMAL things like get a job (which I wouldn't usually think is wrong), it's like I've been trying to prevent it. But its like he wants to do GOOD things like travel out of town and take up work...when I'm incapacitated. However, I'm unsure if he's the narcissist, or if I am...because I need his help. I want to leave soooo badly, and I thought he does all of this, but I don't SEE the harm anymore....I'm starting to wonder if any of it has happened at all...and its been almost 6 years!
@@DolceFioreRosa are u ok now?? He seemed to be doing a number on u :/
Wow,I can’t get enough of your content! My heart is shattered. Losing my 4 year relationship has left me empty and broken. I'm drowning in grief, suffocating under my own despair. My heart is barely beating..
I'm so sorry to hear that. I've been through a similar experience before, and it was a dark time. But a spiritual counselor helped me heal and find peace. Would you like me to connect you with him?
I'm an RN and always knew about stockholm syndrome, but you explained it so well, so much better than I've ever grasped it and the implications of it. As well as the fall out and what to do after.
I saw the red flags in a guy i met then dated three years ago. I was fine for two years after breaking up after a short four month relationship, then went back last spring when I had a problem and he - out of nowhere - offered to help. That one exchange, just like you said, that one contact....... I just moved out of a DV shelter last week. I also, as I was watching your video, had the "duh" realization to block him on my phone (I didn't at first because he was so scary I kind of wanted to see his reaction so that I knew 'what was out there' waiting for me when I got out, still, it's been six weeks, it's time to block him, i can't believe I forgot that).
This video was fantastic from start to finish. Thank you.
Georgia Byr
same same
Interesting. I was in fear for my life once, made by my own irresponsible choice of a man, who would have killed me if not for the fact that my brother put him in the hospital !! He never bothered me again. These horrible abusive people are the worst cowards !
This feels like my church. I now have a word for that horrible feeling, cognitive dissonance.
If they treat you that way thst is not a church. It's a sect.
It happens in all institutions. I was in a job with this type of abuse.
This lady explains things so well, literally she will help you feel sane again.Thank you.x
Thank you so much for this video in particular. I have been stuck with cognitive dissonance for months now, and can't push forward. Of all the videos I've been watching, yours have helped me tremendously. I have been trying so hard to keep no contact, but everyday is a struggle. She discarded me months ago, and is now starting to reach out for me. I have blocked her number now, and all other social media. Thank you so much for your help. Please keep making videos, especially about female covert narcissists. It's so hard to find any on women.
OMG! This is so crazy. I'm in the middle of a break up with the man i have been living with for the last 2 years. I have been very silent about how bad I have been feeling for a long time, and when I did speak about it I felt like I could not find the right words, when I said it out loud it just sounded so weak. It didn't justify how it felt at all.
Everybody loves him and thinks that he is a great guy so I was never believed or seen when I tried to say that he was not treating med very nicely. He never physically abused me, but he is a very selfish guy who only does good things for others if he gains something from it. He does have sympathy, but no empathy and that is where I think people got tricked, so did I before I had been with him long enough to see the difference. And it's so hard to have people meet you with that special look that they give you when they think you are overreacting or lying.
But the things you said in this video gave me the strength that I need to be confident in my choice to leave and take care of ME.
Thank you.
This is a old post but I'm currently going through the after math of this same issue. He is running my name to the ground like I am the crazy one. He did all the wrong with his side chick yet he is okay and I'm suffering 😥
Thank you for including the man perspective. It is true that they are left out of the abusive conversation. I could only imagine how hard it is for them to be even believed.
Towards the end.. felt like you were REALLY talking to me and helping me like as a really good , loving, caring friend would. Thank you so much for this! Happy healing to all going through this rough patch!
This has to be the best description on narc behaviour. If only I'd seen this video 5 years ago! I've been narc free for 6 months now and my life has drastically improved. However I do still suffer from PTSD from that relationship, which is why I subscribe to your channel. Keep the great knowledge and advice coming Meredith!❤️
wow, this is me! i lost my home, reputation, and unfortunately i lost my two daughters. but i had to escape. its so strange but healing when i look back and then watch this!!!
4:00 So nice to see a woman atleast acknowledging situations where women abuse men or systems are set up unfairly against men. This makes you feel less isolated and hurt as a man 🙏
So timely- Thank you! Super articulate!
OH MY GOD!!! You’re killing me with truth!!!😥. I now truly understand the term “The truth hurts”. Thanks for the true clarity. I seem to keep consistently going around in circles with making sense of this!
Ifkr! It fucking kills.. My narcs are my mother and grand mother.. I feel like I want to kill myself!..
I thank God to have found your videos I’m a grown man. More alpha than beta. An athlete. I’m trapped in a relationship with a physically abusive woman. No one will believe it. Bitten ear, broken tooth, fractured wrist, trashed car. Broken spirit.
Held against my will at home. Missed work. More than once, she hurt herself and filed a restraining order on me. I was trapped until I broke it off. Now like a drug I’m going through withdrawals. I am so grateful to have these words. It gives me the power to persevere.
OMG needed to hear this message. Thank you.
Yes huge correlation with our society, culture, and media, I really see it there!! Our captors are not just the narcissist in our lives but the ones that run our country. We all have captors (aka authority figures) that keep us isolated and stuck in our day to lives, homes, and state, etc. A simple example is to think about how the coronavirus was handled and still being handled. You will be told it’s for “your safety“ but it’s really just about manipulation, power, and control. This makes me think how everybody has Stockholm syndrome on a higher level due to the narcissistic abuse and gaslighting of our own country, society, government, systems etc. we are all under the spell of “freedom” however we are anything but free!!! Think about it... Great video as always thank you for helping us!
I can understand how nobody would believe you. Not many people are aware of narcissistic abuse.
Thank you for all these AMAZING videos Meredith Miller!!
There are billions yes BILLIONS, of women worldwide trapped with men they had children with. It's cultural in many regions worldwide. And, it's tragic.
Thank you for your very accurate information. I have Stockholm syndrome, I have left and moved 3 hours drive away to try and keep myself away from him. Over our 12 years he isolated me from friends and family and what you said about the narcissist creating a discomfort before going out to see people is exactly spot on. He slowly removed furniture from our house so there was nowhere to sit if people came visiting. Our huge house had 1 seat for him and 1 seat for me. You are doing a wonderful job at educating and healing survivors. Excellent videos! Thank you again 😊
Thank you. You have perfectly described my mother. She & my sister tried to take my life 6 months ago. Not being believed has been a painful cross to bare throughout my life! I ahve lost everything. But I confronted my spiteful mother ^ was lucky to escape with my life or sanity. In sheltered housing now. My story so 'unbelievable' I can hardly broach the subject with anyone. Thank you once again!
Wow, one of the most helpful explanation I’ve ever heard. Thank you.
It is so true that you can get pulled back into the abusive situation if you don't see clearly. You have to understand that a covert narcissist is not going to change, that many of their acts are premeditated, that kindness is a lure and their compulsion to abuse you will never stop. Stay away from them. Don't feel sorry for them. There are good people in the world. You're not alone and support is available.
Thank you Meredith. Your videos have helped me so much.
This made me feel really good and on the right path. I wish I was around these sources as a child. I was always seeking for answers. Coping through it can be so rough. I feel I have learned well to disarm the abuse. Though you never really know who is lurking. It doesn't matter. I am comfy, I will cry and stubbornly go. You cross a line. I will deal with it fairly.
All I can say is wow!! Amazing video and exactly what I have been going through for the past 2 decades with my ex wife. I’m actually teared up right now watching this because it’s SO real and SO accurate. Almost like the first time someone has understood my circumstance and put it into words.
thanks. you nailed this. the hook is the feigned kindness. then whack, they strike.
You saved my life, Meradith. May God bless you. Please keep going. Keep sharing these videos. Keep writing about this. You are an inspiration.
my ex narc contacted me on holidays and is hovering again plus my narc parents during holidays and I'm spent ..a constant reminder is needed to why I have to move on..your videos explore the dynamic of hetero relationships but in the gay community narcissism pathological lying constant cheating is looked upon as commonplace and a survival mechanism ..this entire nation is suffering from varying degrees of Stockholm Syndrome. God help us thanks for all you do
totally true re: the gay community.
This presentation was amazing! New subbie here🙌🏾
Thank you so much I had no idea someone would ever know what I'm going through.
Thank you so much for explaining and dissecting this the way you did. You couldn’t have used better examples and I am grateful this video showed up because I recently got out of an extremely toxic relationship where I felt trapped, and hopeless mostly because of HER personal issues. She was depending completely on me, she didn’t want to get a job nor was studying and had literally no communication with any member of her family for personal reasons. This made the situation worse because I was literally responsible for everything regarding her and after a year living together I felt like I couldn’t just run away like that. I never imagined feeling so much darkness in my life, I was very unhappy and lost of myself as a person. We must always stay true to ourselves and find our happiness even if the process hurts!!! Thank you again and God bless you always Meredith 🙏🏼💙
Thank you so much for the work you are doing. And a special thank you for your focus on covert narcissism. Ignorance around makes it really hard to heal and to relearn how to trust oneself.
I was a victim for two years and i have been coping in unhealthy ways. I didn’t realize how extent the abuse was until watching this and relating to this video and it helped me understand that i need help
Omg 😲 I've even lost my family. I'm completely alone,with him,alone
Love this Meredith. I feel so foolish. Three decades
Amazing video! I was hanging on every word. You explain this to the letter. I needed this! Thank you
Wow I needed to hear that .. How kindness hooks you .. Now i get why my Narc always would help other people out he was trying to hook them.
Someone I care very much for is very clearly experiencing Stockholm Syndrome. I work with folks who are victims of cluster B's for a living too and a good friend of mine has an abusive spouse who tries to remove them from their friends and tell them that none of us care about this person and that if this person continues seeing their friends, this emotionally abusive spouse will take my friend's kids away. Btw when I say friends, I literally means ALL FRIENDS. Not one, but all. I miss this person terribly and I miss their friendship and am very concerned for my friend's well-being.
Yes, I have a dear friend too ....it is the saddest thing ever...one has a very strong Moon sign "scorpio" and the other has the weakest no boundary sign "Pisces" moon. and the one with the Scorpio moon has a "Aries" venus... i assure you she has done it all to him and is always many steps ahead.
100 % Accurate!! I survived for 15 years of this!I gotta traumatic brain injury from him! But I'm free and alive! You are not alone!!!
This hurts so so bad
I was moved to Ga from Wa state, promised we would move back after one year.. my whole support system is in Wa. 20 years of being alone in a small town .. every move I make is tracked & all phone calls texts ect is watched… I pray & hope to feel safe & the truth will be brought to light
You are SO good at explaining this
The most validating thing. I wept at parts of this video. Thank you very much for explaining in such an informative, level-headed way.
Oh my god that is so so true, my husband is narcissist, he is so innocent a quiet looking on front of Other people 🤯🤬🤬
This is a great video explaining what Stockholm Syndrome is and how it works to keeps people stuck in a very abusive relationship.
What I think is missing from this video is mentioning the need for supports, including professionals.
Most people in these situations have been conditioned over time to normalize this extreme level of trauma bond and getting out is not going to happen simply by watching a video.
To get out requires a lot of courage, first and for most, and an acknowledgement of what's happening.
It requires some form of therapy or counselling to help the survivor gain the tools required to build and maintain boundaries, to establish and reinforce a safety plan, and to relocate and develop life skills which will include ways of reconnecting and building up their authentic self.
Many folks who are in trauma bond relationship that we can equate to a Stockholm Syndrome situation live with the person who has significant control over them, sometimes they share children and/or pets, sometimes they own assets together and sometimes they live in isolated and remote areas where there's barriers to access transportation. Sometimes they have no access to funds, telecommunications, and their physical safety is at risk if they do attempt to leave.
I think including a message to try and get local police or other emergency services would be great to include in this video. Also, if a phone or computer is not accessible to do so, reaching out to a neighbor or a person driving by or someone in a store (etc).
It's a huge step to walk away from such a situation when a person is ready or contemplating leaving. Yet, seeing the way out and knowing what to do to get out safely and to stay away and begin the healing and recovery process requires a lot of work.
That work will depend on the supports and the survivor understanding what's available to help them navigate a very complex reality.
I know someone in this situation and that is why I'm watching this video. They've attempted to leave the situation many times and always get sucked back in. Part of the reason is because breaking the cycle isn't easy as survivors become attached to the dysfunction and feel uncomfortable and lack trust with the experience safety and being away from their abuser. They also often don't know how to tap into their ability to ask for help to protect and preserve their life. They need help for this and sometimes accessing the necessary supports is not easy or readily accessible. The time that spans between those supports providing the necessary supports is when the survivor usually returns to the abuser or simply decides to stay.
It's similar to someone trying to overcome an addiction. If the treatment centre is not there right when the user is ready to leave, the time between a bed becoming available is when the user finds their next fix.
Oh my gosh! You are speaking 100% correct I mean like right on the money!
One of the best nights sleep I have had for ages- thank you. Ho ho ho, so that's what it is all about. Not too difficult when explained in such a way as the video does. We the abused have some ammunition whereas before just tottering to survive. My narc/abuser flies in today returning from his country to no job, no place to stay, no money and although no communication while away will possibly head up to my home. Just in the nick of time by chance view this video. Doors firmly shut and phone off. Three years of roller coasting finished. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The brain is in control now. xxxxx
It's really about the abuser's access to tools/technology & "technological networking" against the victim through "covert" harassment.
This IS VERY scary!
Correct, nowadays all of these tech avenues can be used to harass and stalk a target. The system needs to be updated to protect people from this.
my mother has been able to do this.. idk how i came across this video.. i am extremely afraid for my sanity and state of being.