Historical fact vs. Hollywood fiction. Constanza Mozart asked Salieri to be the music teacher for her son Xavier Mozart. Salieri agreed, and his lessons were free. This was normal with Salieri, who gave many aspiring students free lessons.
I love it that there are comments in so many different languages here, it shows that good taste in music has nothing to do with nationality and that music is a language we all understand. Greetings from Germany!
From the first moment I heard (Corelli’s) Folia decades ago on the radio... I must have listened to the whole piece all the way thru MORE than ANY other piece of music. Unlike most pieces, the “What da f*ck is THAT’!?!” was immediate and life affirming!
AMEN 🙏 brother/sister... from the first moment I heard (Corelli’s) Folia decades ago on the radio... I must have listened to the whole piece all the way thru MORE than ANY other piece of music. Unlike most pieces, the “What da f*ck is THAT’!?!” was immediate and life affirming!
Antonio Salieri è un grande musicista, perfetto conoscitore dell'armonia e del contrappunto, applicati allo " stile galante" Queste variazioni sul tema de "La follia" dimostrano la sua grandezza. Penso che sia ora di valutarlo per quanto ha prodotto e non in relazione al divino Mozart , al quale ben pochi musicisti possono possono essere paragonati.
Salieri ha espresso uno dei massimi livelli di orchestrazione di un motivo che non fatica ad entrare nell'intimo di chi lo ascolta... meraviglia ogni suo passaggio che non prevedi e ti affascina per la sua freschezza e gioviale interpretazione che l'orchestra ben riesce a trasmettere. Grazie e complimenti!
Yes although La Folia's music doesn't really belong to anyone as it is a medieval piece of music somewhat lost in time. First evidence, if I m not mistaken (not a music expert) goes back to the 14th century.
GRAZIE per la publicazione !!!!!! Con il solo tema della FOLLIA SALIERI ne ha ricavato una orchestrazione completa ..... bisogna riscoprire SALIERI !!!!!!!
Uno dei mieibrani preferiti: il brano della follia di Spagna è già malinconico di suo, ma Salieri, nelle sue variazioni, ci aggiunge quella nota di dolore che precorre il romanticismo musicale europeo!
Suis en train d'écouter La Follia di Spagna dans toutes ses possibles et imaginables versions, variations, interpretations...Mais, en fin de comptes, je crois que la plus incroyable, la plus belle, la plus...folle est celle de Vivaldi.
Oui clairement xD. Mais Salieri y mets quand même sa touche personnelle avec des versions bien plus posées et dissonantes. Il a juste dû oublier qu'une Follia c'est censé aller de plus en plus vite xD. Plus sérieusement Vivaldi est incroyable. Il a accompli tant à une époque où quasiment rien existait en terme de composition et il a posé tellement de bases pour les générations futures. Tout ça en étant également à de nombreuses reprises très visionnaire et en avance sur son temps.
Questo brano di Salieri mi fa sentire sullo sfondo della vita una specie de nostalgia, nel senso piú bello, quello che raccoglie le foglie del autunno che sembrano acquistare vita nuova col vento che li porta soavemente a terra.
Las variaciones de Salieri son como una meditación polícroma de la creatividad, un gozo delicado de darle a la música un espectro mayor de expresión; una belleza cromática en movimiento.
Salieri is a highly underrated composer. Peter Schaffer's drama did not do Salieri's reputation any favours, either; it was excellent drama, but extremely inaccurate history. The historical Salieri had no animosity toward Mozart; and Salieri's music was hardly mediocre.
i was thinking the same. there is a tendency to worship heroes and invent villains just to edify the hero. Unfortunately Salieri was a victim of this. Schaffer made money out of this vilifying of Salieri and so did that cheesy crap 'Amadeus' director Milos Foreman. This music sounds way out of his time...maybe even anticipates romantic music.
+IMCassia Sort of. They had to compete with one another in terms of their profession, but there's no evidence of Salieri ever not liking him. And were it not for that movie, I wouldn't have known who Salieri was. I think it did help him.
True. Undeserved notoriety might have caused a number of people to look him up, to see if his music was all that mediocre - and as it turns out, Salieri's music is actually quite good. I think he's an interesting bridge between the Baroque era and the classical era.
like a forgotten dream fulfilled.. after years.. meeting by a chance years after years.. forgotten emotions and dreams woke up again.. eye contact.. increasing breath density.. with a tender conscious..
Después de esta lección magistral de orquestación, melacolía y sentimiento ,ya se pueden los cineastas esforzar en presentarnos a Salieri como el malo de la película , que yo no me lo puedo creer.
@@ferencpusztai5201 In those times it was common to bury people in unmarked graves, and sometimes mass graves, unless of course you were rich, aristocrat, or Jewish (who had their own cemeteries). Mozart was just a musician, and musicians were just considered members of the households or the very rich. He was buried in a pauper's grave. There is a controversy over Mozart's body. Supposedly it was later on found by a gravedigger and his skull translated to a Mozart family tomb in Salzburg. A few years ago the skull was subjected to DNA testing and found that it was not Mozart's.
@@crcanassr Thankyou! But if he was considered, as a household staff, why do they praise him so much? His music is so well respected, while his body wasn't, what a shameful paradox.
I think that with our levels of technology it is a little bit impossible to find alien civilization but it must be easier for more advanced alien civilizations (should they exist) to detect us.
I think it'a a bit more complicated. Shaffer wrote a marvelous drama which did not pretend to be an accurate biography. . My read of that drama is that Salieri was almost alone in recognizing the full power of Mozart's genius. Of course Salieri could do this because he was a very fine composer himself.
Amadeus is simply predicated on what Beethoven heard from Salieri who was his teacher. This arrangement of Folias is proof that Salieri can write well. He never resorts to Spanish clichés in this piece. I studied 2 classical guitar versions of la folias.By Sor and Ponce. This version ranks with Manuel Ponce s.
Las variaciones del Salieri sobre la Follía revelan una clara y profunda meditación lúdica que goza en poner de relieve las múltiples posibilidades del compositor y de la orquesta sinfónica partiende de una secuencia de base.
Già di per sé il tema della follia è magnificamente struggente, dire che quella di Salieri sia la migliore mi sembra un po' azzardato. Le mie preferenze vanno su quelle di Arcangelo Corelli e di Marin Marais che le ritengo più profonde ed essenziali. Però anche questa mia affermazione è sicuramente discutibile perché tra questa versione e quelle di mia preferenza che ho citato, c'è quasi un secolo di differenza dalla stesura. Si può ben capire che in un secolo cambiano tante cose compreso il gusto e l'estetica. Tuttavia le due citate più antiche mi danno emozioni che le altre non mi danno compresa quella di Vivaldi, che la ritengo un capolavoro e che temporalmente sono più vicine a loro.
Per la verità Mozart non è mai stato "nemico di Salieri o viceversa, sono favole ben raccontate. Per la verità, questo brano è molto tardo, del 1815, quando Mozart era morto da ben 24 anni, sono semmai contemporanee di Beethoven.
Salieri's orchestration knowledge and techniques are far ahead of his time and superior to Mozart's! It's like an encyclopedia for any later development.
Salierilla on parempia teemoja kuin Mozartilla, mutta muunnelmat jättävät toivomisen varaa. / Salieri has better themes than Mozart, but the variations leave to desire.
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Historical fact vs. Hollywood fiction. Constanza Mozart asked Salieri to be the music teacher for her son Xavier Mozart. Salieri agreed, and his lessons were free. This was normal with Salieri, who gave many aspiring students free lessons.
Including Beethoven a fact that is often overlooked.
@@jackfletcher1000 and List as well
Including Beethoven, Salieri was much maligned in THAT movie.
I love it that there are comments in so many different languages here, it shows that good taste in music has nothing to do with nationality and that music is a language we all understand.
Greetings from Germany!
عبقرية الموسيقى في هذا الرجل الذي يدعى (انتونيو ساليري) استمعت إلى كثير من مقطوعاته وهي رائعة جدا .. شكرا لكم .. حسين من لبنان :)
From the first moment I heard (Corelli’s) Folia decades ago on the radio... I must have listened to the whole piece all the way thru MORE than ANY other piece of music. Unlike most pieces, the “What da f*ck is THAT’!?!” was immediate and life affirming!
Excellence!This melody is full of sadness and elegance from the Salieri’s soul.
You mean La Folia's chord progression? It is from Portugal. It is saudade by definition.
"La Follia" is probably the only music theme that will still be heard when we discover alien civilization.
AMEN 🙏 brother/sister... from the first moment I heard (Corelli’s) Folia decades ago on the radio... I must have listened to the whole piece all the way thru MORE than ANY other piece of music. Unlike most pieces, the “What da f*ck is THAT’!?!” was immediate and life affirming!
Η καλύτερη ενορχήστρωση αυτού του απίστευτου μουσικού θέματος. Bravo Salieri !
A magnificent set of variations on the hypnotic dance of the gods.
Antonio Salieri è un grande musicista, perfetto conoscitore dell'armonia e del contrappunto, applicati allo " stile galante" Queste variazioni sul tema de "La follia" dimostrano la sua grandezza. Penso che sia ora di valutarlo per quanto ha prodotto e non in relazione al divino Mozart , al quale ben pochi musicisti possono possono essere paragonati.
Salieri ha espresso uno dei massimi livelli di orchestrazione di un motivo che non fatica ad entrare nell'intimo di chi lo ascolta... meraviglia ogni suo passaggio che non prevedi e ti affascina per la sua freschezza e gioviale interpretazione che l'orchestra ben riesce a trasmettere. Grazie e complimenti!
Beautiful performance and imaginative orchestration for the period it was composed !
This is one if those pieces that should be somehow preserved to survive even the destruction of earth itself!
Yes although La Folia's music doesn't really belong to anyone as it is a medieval piece of music somewhat lost in time. First evidence, if I m not mistaken (not a music expert) goes back to the 14th century.
I enjoy listening to Antonio Salieri
meraviglioso contrasto fra la rarefatta eleganza dell'arpa, e i ripieni dell'orchestra... magic moment
La Follia. São muitas as variações sobre esse tema musical. Cada uma delas tornando a trilha original mais agradável de ser ouvida.
Aqui sou novamente, amando isto. . .
Wonderful performance! Big round of applause ( :
GRAZIE per la publicazione !!!!!! Con il solo tema della FOLLIA SALIERI ne ha ricavato una orchestrazione completa ..... bisogna riscoprire SALIERI !!!!!!!
Uno dei mieibrani preferiti: il brano della follia di Spagna è già malinconico di suo, ma Salieri, nelle sue variazioni, ci aggiunge quella nota di dolore che precorre il romanticismo musicale europeo!
Suis en train d'écouter La Follia di Spagna dans toutes ses possibles et imaginables versions, variations, interpretations...Mais, en fin de comptes, je crois que la plus incroyable, la plus belle, la plus...folle est celle de Vivaldi.
Oui clairement xD. Mais Salieri y mets quand même sa touche personnelle avec des versions bien plus posées et dissonantes. Il a juste dû oublier qu'une Follia c'est censé aller de plus en plus vite xD.
Plus sérieusement Vivaldi est incroyable. Il a accompli tant à une époque où quasiment rien existait en terme de composition et il a posé tellement de bases pour les générations futures. Tout ça en étant également à de nombreuses reprises très visionnaire et en avance sur son temps.
Made in italy por eso admiro a los italianos por sus instrumentos de cuerdas corelli scalati vivaldi tartini salieri y paganini
Questo brano di Salieri mi fa sentire sullo sfondo della vita una specie de nostalgia, nel senso piú bello, quello che raccoglie le foglie del autunno che sembrano acquistare vita nuova col vento che li porta soavemente a terra.
Las variaciones de Salieri son como una meditación polícroma de la creatividad, un gozo delicado de darle a la música un espectro mayor de expresión; una belleza cromática en movimiento.
La Follia. Ci sono molte variazioni su questo tema musicale. Ognuno rendendo la traccia più divertente originale di essere ascoltato.
Just for that Salieri belongs to the pantheon of composers
Molto bello e una grande scoperta per me. Grazie di averla proposta
Salieri, que grande eres.!!!!!!!
Salieri is a highly underrated composer. Peter Schaffer's drama did not do Salieri's reputation any favours, either; it was excellent drama, but extremely inaccurate history. The historical Salieri had no animosity toward Mozart; and Salieri's music was hardly mediocre.
i was thinking the same.
there is a tendency to worship heroes and invent villains just to edify the hero. Unfortunately Salieri was a victim of this. Schaffer made money out of this vilifying of Salieri and so did that cheesy crap 'Amadeus' director Milos Foreman.
This music sounds way out of his time...maybe even anticipates romantic music.
+IMCassia Sort of. They had to compete with one another in terms of their profession, but there's no evidence of Salieri ever not liking him. And were it not for that movie, I wouldn't have known who Salieri was. I think it did help him.
True. Undeserved notoriety might have caused a number of people to look him up, to see if his music was all that mediocre - and as it turns out, Salieri's music is actually quite good. I think he's an interesting bridge between the Baroque era and the classical era.
Arbitrary & IM - I'm wit u all. I wuz actually curious enuff 2 look 4 & buy sum Salieri, even azz I wuz busy buying Mozart muzak.
In my humble opinion, he was an excellent composer and not all that far behind Mozart.
Ciò mi rende felice.
like a forgotten dream fulfilled.. after years.. meeting by a chance years after years.. forgotten emotions and dreams woke up again.. eye contact.. increasing breath density.. with a tender conscious..
Después de esta lección magistral de orquestación, melacolía y sentimiento ,ya se pueden los cineastas esforzar en presentarnos a Salieri como el malo de la película , que yo no me lo puedo creer.
Esta msucia não me deixará na paz. Super otimo.
glorious deeply moving music
Salieri was one of the few persons present at Mozart funeral.
Is it true, he was buried in a mass grave?
@@ferencpusztai5201 In those times it was common to bury people in unmarked graves, and sometimes mass graves, unless of course you were rich, aristocrat, or Jewish (who had their own cemeteries). Mozart was just a musician, and musicians were just considered members of the households or the very rich. He was buried in a pauper's grave. There is a controversy over Mozart's body. Supposedly it was later on found by a gravedigger and his skull translated to a Mozart family tomb in Salzburg. A few years ago the skull was subjected to DNA testing and found that it was not Mozart's.
@@crcanassr Thankyou! But if he was considered, as a household staff, why do they praise him so much? His music is so well respected, while his body wasn't, what a shameful paradox.
Qué maravillosa orquestación!! Cómo elaborar a partir de una idea, una obra mayor.
I think that with our levels of technology it is a little bit impossible to find alien civilization but it must be easier for more advanced alien civilizations (should they exist) to detect us.
Heel mooi en spannend !
7:10 for l'Aigle menu theme
Wonderful!
Yes, it has its origins in the Portugal of the 15th century A.D. if I'm not wrong.
Un'altra gloria del nostro paese. Peccato siano tutte passate
+ANS. HISPANO in the same measure the roman and arabic rules brought their influence to Spain earlier on
Chi non ha apprezzato questa variazione, probabilmente non conosce la struttura ne tantomeno la positiva enfasi che Salieri ha voluto corollate
¡La Locura!!!
I think it'a a bit more complicated. Shaffer wrote a marvelous drama which did not pretend to be an accurate biography. . My read of that drama is that Salieri was almost alone in recognizing the full power of Mozart's genius. Of course Salieri could do this because he was a very fine composer himself.
Даже и слова не подобрать. Ничего лишнего. Прям таки совершенство какое-то.
Amadeus is simply predicated on what Beethoven heard from Salieri who was his teacher. This arrangement of Folias is proof that Salieri can write well. He never resorts to Spanish clichés in this piece. I studied 2 classical guitar versions of la folias.By Sor and Ponce. This version ranks with Manuel Ponce s.
8:16 min it sounds like Philip Glass
The comparison is a little strange as the composer lived about 200 years before Glass
Las variaciones del Salieri sobre la Follía revelan una clara y profunda meditación lúdica que goza en poner de relieve las múltiples posibilidades del compositor y de la orquesta sinfónica partiende de una secuencia de base.
I would like to think that Russian general Zhukov played this moments before ordering his double pincer attack on Paulus to take back Stalingrad
Orchestra Della Filharmonica Nationale Moldavia - Silvano Frontalini, conductor
Bellissimo
@MrHelconte Merci pour vos commentaires
Believe it or not. Salieri bares some resemblance to a welknown Chinese Cantonese film director in the old days in Hong Kong.
This Part is sick
i dont understand you dude, but...thumbs up!
Etwas behäbig. Meine Güte, was könnte ein Spitzenorchester daraus machen!
Vangelis pour conquest of Paradise à du écouter cette œuvre c'est pas possible.
Great for some soundtrack 9:31
I always felt this could be part of sound track for Gladiator (2000)
Già di per sé il tema della follia è magnificamente struggente, dire che quella di Salieri sia la migliore mi sembra un po' azzardato. Le mie preferenze vanno su quelle di Arcangelo Corelli e di Marin Marais che le ritengo più profonde ed essenziali. Però anche questa mia affermazione è sicuramente discutibile perché tra questa versione e quelle di mia preferenza che ho citato, c'è quasi un secolo di differenza dalla stesura. Si può ben capire che in un secolo cambiano tante cose compreso il gusto e l'estetica. Tuttavia le due citate più antiche mi danno emozioni che le altre non mi danno compresa quella di Vivaldi, che la ritengo un capolavoro e che temporalmente sono più vicine a loro.
8:16 kinda like Philip Glass
9:31 kinda like Philip Glass
11:54 kinda like uhhh... I don't know actually
Orchestra Filarmonicii Nationale din Moldova interpreteaza, sau eu gresesc?
Sicuramente Salieri, per quanto riguarda l'orchestrazione, non aveva nulla da invidiare al suo "nemico" e contemporaneo Mozart.
Per la verità Mozart non è mai stato "nemico di Salieri o viceversa, sono favole ben raccontate. Per la verità, questo brano è molto tardo, del 1815, quando Mozart era morto da ben 24 anni, sono semmai contemporanee di Beethoven.
ATTENTION,,,,METTRE LE VOLUME SUR MOYEN,,,,,,et ne plus y toucher
. . . musica . . .
Salieri's orchestration knowledge and techniques are far ahead of his time and superior to Mozart's! It's like an encyclopedia for any later development.
This is from 1815.
Mozart died in 1791.
La follia: migliore quella di Salieri, poi quelle di Corelli, Vivaldi e altri...
F Murray Abraham doesn't look at all like Salieri!
Juan Jose Morales
LOL!!!
F. Murray did a fine job tho, did he not?
Without Salieri!No Mozart!
Salierilla on parempia teemoja kuin Mozartilla, mutta muunnelmat jättävät toivomisen varaa. /
Salieri has better themes than Mozart, but the variations leave to desire.
Музыка гавно, понятно почему он Моцарта убил.