It is a scary time to buy a kayak. The advancements in fishing kayaks has been so huge in such a short period of time. Next year they will probably have a model that is solar powered and reads your mind to go where you want.
This boat changes everything, and your excitement reflects that! I was about to pull the trigger on the Sportsman 106 MK, but AutoPilot with the spot lock and heading, this is The Jetsons level awesomeness.
Great info as always... for myself i think id still prefer the negative titan 12 then add front mount spot lock. For a couple reasons first still having pedal drive as a back up still and the internal storage. I hope in the future oldtown will add a much larger internal storage area to this platform
Your videos make my day! Nice review as always. I am patiently awaiting delivery of my Autopilot 136, delayed because of the lock-down. I'm envious! Keep the videos coming!
Aliex, I love my kayak. It is a 120 pdl Hybird eition. I have the 46lb thrust cockpit factory fitted trolling motor. And I just added my Bixpy J2, and purchased the vibe gravity rudder, because my rudder is a toe control. Nothing is hacked, it's all factory. But if I had to save again, I would've definitely decided on that vessel. I fish freshwater and gave had big large mouth, pull me into, trees or grass, and brush. Awsome boat!! 🤟🎣🙏
Great yak but at the end of the day too much money after buying the battery plus nightmare to think that you might end up dead on water one day🙈 I'll stick with my Hobie Mirage outback with 180 turbo drive 😁 nice full review though my brother 😎 👍
Omg who would buy this and not want spot lock! So I commented on another vid saying I want a trolling motor or a Pedal. I have to say I’ve never been more excited to get something in my 40 years of living than the Autopilot lol. We are in good times as kayak fishermen! What funny a lot of reviews talk about the spot lock for rough water and conditions. I can’t wait to use it on my glass smooth lakes and large ponds.
I actually have a video dropping tomorrow fishing on the Keys with Crystal chear waters, but super heavy current, it is amazingly amazing, will be out tomorrow
@@AliexFolgueira Yes! It's available to order and we've shipped some to retailers already. However, shipping from Old Town is on pause until April 6th.
Great review Aliex! It really seems like an incredible boat. I wish there was a way to swap the pedal drive so if the battery dies on you and you're far from the launch, you don't have to paddle this beast... it would be sweet if Old Town found a way to make a compatible system so you can swap the motors (just bring the PDL with you in the tankwell). But you can't have everything you want in life!! One thing.. do you know if the new seat works on the Topwater series? It looks like it might, but I haven't heard for sure yet. Thanks for the great review Aliex, hope you can get out fishing soon!
I just got a 13.6 coming , I got a 100 ah lithium ion battery as well. Now , How batteries are , lead versus Lith Ion. Lead has a gradual slope downward on voltage as you use it throughout the day so you start out at say 12.5 volts , and 30 minutes later , you are at say , 12.2. How this effects performance is as the day gos on , speed setting two in the beginning was giving you say 1.5 mph , well now speed 2 gives you 1.4 mph after 30 minutes. This is basically how lead acid works. So the longer you go , the less PREDICTABLE the outcome is because so many variables are changing. With Lithium Ion , it gives you a solid 12.5 volts at the beginning and for about 87 percent of the charge in , then after that , it drops fairly dramatically , not slow. This allows you to get the same performance and expect the same performance at certain settings for the whole day. Which is super important. On Lithium or any other type of battery , its important to note that if you run a trolling motor at max speed , all of them will die fairly fast. The key to using any battery driven device is knowing how it draws current. There is an exponential gain from cutting the speed from say max to 50 percent. So if on a full charge , a battery gives you 2 hours at full speed. If you just cut the speed in half , you do not gain only 4 hours , you gain like 8. So , simply being patient and efficient with use , you can gain a lot of hours just lightly cruising around. In fact , I would say any battery , if you run this setup on a 100 ah battery , and run it at say , 1 mph , there is no reason you should not be able to get a solid 16 to 20 hours of use on one full charge. The worst thing about Lithium Ion is the sharp fall at the end , and when that comes if you are 2 miles out , guess what , you are paddling. To allow you better judgement , get a gauge that more accurately gives you a meter to look at with percentage of battery life left. Then you do not get to far out , and get out of power.
It's nice to dream, but I just don't need that much kayak. It depends on what you need. Thank God I don't. Nice boat though. Thanks for another great video.
A couple of questions: First what kind of kayak dolly do you use. I don't see one that is specifically made for this kayak. Secondly, I understand a 2 hr use on the battery that is at max power but realistically how long have you been able to stay out using it in a general sense. Thanks
I can fish 6- 10 hours without worrying about the battery, if you go half speed all day bro all day, I have used two carts this one the Malone works great (affiliate link) here geni.us/oACf or the geni.us/TYPNv ctug
Thanks for the help. Just curious..what is the inside diameter of the hatch up front. Thinking when I get mine I might mount batteries for the chartplotter up there. Is there plenty of room under that hatch as well?
While I think this thing is great and I wouldn't mind owning one, I got a 16.6ft alumacraft deep v bass boat for $2500 in excellent condition with 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke engine. Kind of hard to justify the price of this kayak when I could purchase a boat. Don't know, its probably the trolling motor with spot lock that jacks up the price.
It is a good price but you have to drop a grand for the lithium batteries for he best performance for a full day of fishing. then you are in the price range of a Hobie. Very tough decision but if I have not just purchased a PA14 then yes I would buy one.
Have you been in the paddle version yet? I’m curious of how it handles since it was obviously designed for the motor. Dozens of videos for the autopilot but can’t find one for paddle
For that money I would rather buy a fiberglass skiff with an outboard. No batteries to carry, no hull breach or tip overs or waves to worry about. Paying $3800 for hollow bottle plastic is awful.
Aliex, in Australia a company is taking pre-orders on this boat for USD $5,900 including a bonus lithium battery. Not worth it at that price. For what you are paying in the states it is expensive but you do get a lot of Technology and there is no other Yak like it -- YET!!
Can you fit another person in the back where you'd put the cooler? Im trying to get something to use for fishing but occasionally bring my wife or some other friend to fish, but I cant find any good kayaks for that, cuz it will be 70% solo fishing for sure and sometime bring some one too
Why would you say motorized kayaks are the same as man powered? They aren’t and shouldn’t be considered the same. One is run by literal man power and the other is run by a trolling motor and batteries. They might want a division for powered kayaks but they aren’t the same at all. Most anglers on big boats use their trolling motors almost constantly so why turn into that? Not trying to be a jerk, I just don’t understand how they’re the same.
In this setup? I'm using a 55ah lithium battery from amped outdoors, btw you can save 5% if you use my code aliex5.... It really depends on conditions, I say minimum 5 miles at top speeds, it lasted for more than 5 miles but that's me managing the speeds....
ALEX BEFORE I ASKED YOU FOR THE REVIEW OF THE BEST KAYAKS YOU COULD JUST SAY THE FREEKIN OLD TOWN AUTO PILOT 😝🌈🌈💩🤣 I like your chanclas ..! Do you know if they sell for guys 😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 (joke)
What ever happened to Kayaks being the affordable way to get in the water? These kayaks are almost 4 grand. I could buy a NuCanoe canoe and throw my own minnkota on it and save 1600 bucks. At these cost, you might as well get a micro skiff.
Aliex Folgueira I feel you, I just am starting to see the price creep into small skiff territory. Would I love the 120 or the 136, absolutely! Can a weekend warrior drop 4 grand on a kayak with a trolling motor? Debatable. Still great review and great content!
No way. Trolling motors don't last very long. Especially in salt water. Neither do batteries. So basically in 5 to 7 years at best you'll be replacing both the motor and battery. Can you imagine spending all that money and having to invest another 2k in 5 years otherwise your kayak is useless ?? No way. And Spot Lock on a kayak isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's always wind out there if you fish the salt. And on Spot Lock you'll always spin around and wind up facing into the wind. Always casting straight into the wind. Unless your on a quiet lake.. that sucks.
That's funny. For the people out there that don't plan on buying a new 4k kayak every year...replacing a trolling motor and battery in 5 years is insane. Sorry. Not only are you casting into the wind... you're pissing into it at the same
@@jasonbowden1422 I don't know about you but I still have my trolling motor from 2014, I really don't see your point here, At the end of the day buy whatever you want, if you don't wanna spend $3800 on this kayak don't, there are plenty of people out there who has and will.
I have no problem spending 4k on a kayak. I've got 2. Spending that on one that will need 2k worth of upgrades in 5 to 7 years or else it sits in the garage... yes I think that's stupid. How much do you think you'll get for it when you want to upgrade to something else but it needs a new trolling motor and battery ? This is hard to understand ? If you think trolling motors last much longer than that Alex you haven't been fishing very long. And even if they are still working they perform like crap. Same exact thing with the batteries. People that are given expensive fishing kayaks don't care about about 5 years down the road... but the rest of us do. Does it always bother you so much when someone has a different opinion about one of the kayaks in your unbiased reviews?
It is a scary time to buy a kayak. The advancements in fishing kayaks has been so huge in such a short period of time. Next year they will probably have a model that is solar powered and reads your mind to go where you want.
Live it thru this channel
😂🤣😂
It's to the point that kayaks are simply... becoming boats ,sorta defeats the purpose!
This boat changes everything, and your excitement reflects that! I was about to pull the trigger on the Sportsman 106 MK, but AutoPilot with the spot lock and heading, this is The Jetsons level awesomeness.
Next level awesomeness bro for sure 🙂
Great info as always... for myself i think id still prefer the negative titan 12 then add front mount spot lock. For a couple reasons first still having pedal drive as a back up still and the internal storage. I hope in the future oldtown will add a much larger internal storage area to this platform
Your videos make my day! Nice review as always. I am patiently awaiting delivery of my Autopilot 136, delayed because of the lock-down. I'm envious! Keep the videos coming!
Thanks, I have my 136 prep for shipping but delayed due to the virus too 😭
Aliex, I love my kayak. It is a 120 pdl Hybird eition. I have the 46lb thrust cockpit factory fitted trolling motor. And I just added my Bixpy J2, and purchased the vibe gravity rudder, because my rudder is a toe control. Nothing is hacked, it's all factory. But if I had to save again, I would've definitely decided on that vessel. I fish freshwater and gave had big large mouth, pull me into, trees or grass, and brush. Awsome boat!! 🤟🎣🙏
Great yak but at the end of the day too much money after buying the battery plus nightmare to think that you might end up dead on water one day🙈 I'll stick with my Hobie Mirage outback with 180 turbo drive 😁 nice full review though my brother 😎 👍
And now you're on your second AutoPilot. Haha!
@@XploreAz 😂😂 Dude. It's the best decision I ever made! 😎😁👍 What a kayak!
@@FishingFloridaWithKO I just bought one last week. Going to finally get it on the water this weekend.
Omg who would buy this and not want spot lock! So I commented on another vid saying I want a trolling motor or a Pedal. I have to say I’ve never been more excited to get something in my 40 years of living than the Autopilot lol. We are in good times as kayak fishermen! What funny a lot of reviews talk about the spot lock for rough water and conditions. I can’t wait to use it on my glass smooth lakes and large ponds.
I actually have a video dropping tomorrow fishing on the Keys with Crystal chear waters, but super heavy current, it is amazingly amazing, will be out tomorrow
That is awesome kayak! That is 😎 cool you can control it to stay one spot while you're fishing 🎣
Game changer for real this time
The velcro is genius Ailex. I really want this boat but with all the uncertainty ahead of all us I'm going to have to wait. Sorry Old Town.
Yeah man, it is not even on sale yet
@@AliexFolgueira Yes! It's available to order and we've shipped some to retailers already. However, shipping from Old Town is on pause until April 6th.
Thank you for your advice and reviewing on this kayak!!!
Thank you for watching 😎😎😎 i highly recommend this boat
Great review Aliex! It really seems like an incredible boat. I wish there was a way to swap the pedal drive so if the battery dies on you and you're far from the launch, you don't have to paddle this beast... it would be sweet if Old Town found a way to make a compatible system so you can swap the motors (just bring the PDL with you in the tankwell). But you can't have everything you want in life!! One thing.. do you know if the new seat works on the Topwater series? It looks like it might, but I haven't heard for sure yet. Thanks for the great review Aliex, hope you can get out fishing soon!
Not sure about the seat, I think they will work but old Town is not selling them separately. Thanks for the great comment
@@AliexFolgueira Oh man that's a bummer!! I hope I can talk them into selling me one with a rudder... :) thanks Aliex!
Great vid … so what do you miss of your Hobie Outback that you wish you still had ?
I just got a 13.6 coming , I got a 100 ah lithium ion battery as well. Now , How batteries are , lead versus Lith Ion. Lead has a gradual slope downward on voltage as you use it throughout the day so you start out at say 12.5 volts , and 30 minutes later , you are at say , 12.2. How this effects performance is as the day gos on , speed setting two in the beginning was giving you say 1.5 mph , well now speed 2 gives you 1.4 mph after 30 minutes. This is basically how lead acid works. So the longer you go , the less PREDICTABLE the outcome is because so many variables are changing. With Lithium Ion , it gives you a solid 12.5 volts at the beginning and for about 87 percent of the charge in , then after that , it drops fairly dramatically , not slow. This allows you to get the same performance and expect the same performance at certain settings for the whole day. Which is super important.
On Lithium or any other type of battery , its important to note that if you run a trolling motor at max speed , all of them will die fairly fast. The key to using any battery driven device is knowing how it draws current. There is an exponential gain from cutting the speed from say max to 50 percent. So if on a full charge , a battery gives you 2 hours at full speed. If you just cut the speed in half , you do not gain only 4 hours , you gain like 8. So , simply being patient and efficient with use , you can gain a lot of hours just lightly cruising around. In fact , I would say any battery , if you run this setup on a 100 ah battery , and run it at say , 1 mph , there is no reason you should not be able to get a solid 16 to 20 hours of use on one full charge.
The worst thing about Lithium Ion is the sharp fall at the end , and when that comes if you are 2 miles out , guess what , you are paddling. To allow you better judgement , get a gauge that more accurately gives you a meter to look at with percentage of battery life left. Then you do not get to far out , and get out of power.
Been looking at this kayak for the past couple days.. great review, New Subcriber here ! 👍
Thank you 🙂🙂🙂 welcome 🙂 I gotta say I love this boat, it is my go to for sure
@@AliexFolgueira it really is nice, looking forward to the follow up review to see how it holds up
It's nice to dream, but I just don't need that much kayak. It depends on what you need. Thank God I don't. Nice boat though. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks 🙂 there is something for everyone in kayak fishing
That was a nice rant on the lockdown , and you'er right Alex what's the point if no one follows it.
Love that Velcro idea….I’ll definitely be doing that
A couple of questions: First what kind of kayak dolly do you use. I don't see one that is specifically made for this kayak. Secondly, I understand a 2 hr use on the battery that is at max power but realistically how long have you been able to stay out using it in a general sense. Thanks
I can fish 6- 10 hours without worrying about the battery, if you go half speed all day bro all day, I have used two carts this one the Malone works great (affiliate link) here geni.us/oACf or the geni.us/TYPNv ctug
It's probably better to put the controller in the pocket like you had ,because the velcro will wear out?
Can easily replace the Velcro
Aren't your registration stickers wrong? Isn't it supposed to be FL instead of LF for Florida? And the state letters are supposed to be first.
ohh yeah i almost...watch this th-cam.com/video/8aJvB99FO3s/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the help. Just curious..what is the inside diameter of the hatch up front. Thinking when I get mine I might mount batteries for the chartplotter up there. Is there plenty of room under that hatch as well?
In waiting on mine your reviews are great
Thank you hopefully you Get it soon
Aliex what's the difference between the autopilot and a twin troller and they are about the same price
While I think this thing is great and I wouldn't mind owning one, I got a 16.6ft alumacraft deep v bass boat for $2500 in excellent condition with 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke engine. Kind of hard to justify the price of this kayak when I could purchase a boat. Don't know, its probably the trolling motor with spot lock that jacks up the price.
Alex can you give me the dimensions of the battery compartment?
I am getting the shearwater 125 today... will the auto pilot work on this kayak?
i bet you can rig one up!
It is a good price but you have to drop a grand for the lithium batteries for he best performance for a full day of fishing. then you are in the price range of a Hobie. Very tough decision but if I have not just purchased a PA14 then yes I would buy one.
Yeah, I say get the 100ah hour amped outdoors lithium if you get the autopilot, go full speed ahead or not.. How is the pa working for you
Aliex Folgueira I love it!!! The first peddle kayak I have owned. A little more than I wanted to spend but very well worth it.
Have you been in the paddle version yet? I’m curious of how it handles since it was obviously designed for the motor. Dozens of videos for the autopilot but can’t find one for paddle
Other than the motor whats the difference from the topwater 120?
For that money I would rather buy a fiberglass skiff with an outboard. No batteries to carry, no hull breach or tip overs or waves to worry about. Paying $3800 for hollow bottle plastic is awful.
Go for it
¿Alex, Lo compraste con tus chavos? I see you registered the boat in Florida. So this replaced the 2019 Hobie Outback.
Old Town sent it for review, it did replaced ob
Chilling with Aliex fishing while in lock down here.
You got lots of videos coming brother 😁
@@AliexFolgueira awesome 👍
Aliex, in Australia a company is taking pre-orders on this boat for USD $5,900 including a bonus lithium battery. Not worth it at that price. For what you are paying in the states it is expensive but you do get a lot of Technology and there is no other Yak like it -- YET!!
$5,900? Like nop, that's too much lol
Can you fit another person in the back where you'd put the cooler? Im trying to get something to use for fishing but occasionally bring my wife or some other friend to fish, but I cant find any good kayaks for that, cuz it will be 70% solo fishing for sure and sometime bring some one too
Gabriel Chingolani Check out nucanoes. They are wide open platforms. They have an option to add a second seat. Lots of fishing features as well.
Good review.. luv n the channel..will it hold another person behind the seat on a cooler.. or should I wait for a tandem.. if they come out with one
Ohh yeah I had my son on the tankwell, went well
Why would you say motorized kayaks are the same as man powered? They aren’t and shouldn’t be considered the same. One is run by literal man power and the other is run by a trolling motor and batteries. They might want a division for powered kayaks but they aren’t the same at all. Most anglers on big boats use their trolling motors almost constantly so why turn into that? Not trying to be a jerk, I just don’t understand how they’re the same.
they are the same, hands free fishing, ability to fish without having to hold a paddle!
What's the run time on using a lithium battery? I think you said 2 hour run time???
For a 60 ah hour battery yes about 2hours max speed
@@AliexFolgueira not bad. Say you're not maxing full speed but slowly trolling around I'm assuming it'll last a good few hours?
How about a comparison between the old town predator pdl and the sportsman big water pdl thanks for the great videos
Thanks man, will see
It's literally the same boat just an upgraded seat on the big water...
I love orange color 😍
I like that orange color.
Pretty cool color, I saw you been super busy, can't wait for this go go away so we can do some fishing collabs
Ok. I when do I pick this amazing kayak, that's was an amazing giveaway!!! Thanks Aliex your the best!!! Lol. 🤣🤣🤣🍻
A 230 adult and 100 lbs be ok on this kayak??
Don't hold me to this but I think the specs for weight load is over 500 lbs.
Usable capacity for people and gear: 406 pounds.. Guess if you take off the motor and battery it's 558
100% me an dmy son got on it that's almost 300# and we were fine
Is this ur best kayak ever?
Great review, did you say 2 hours with 55amp battery
On a 60ah lithium battery, give or take
@@AliexFolgueira that's not too good
@@tdbass2968 that’s max speed! You never gonna be going max speed for 2 hours, I have gone more than 10 miles fishing on that battery
What changes would you like to see on the 2021 autoPilot 120? Your perfect yak!
How many miles do you get on a charge?
In this setup? I'm using a 55ah lithium battery from amped outdoors, btw you can save 5% if you use my code aliex5.... It really depends on conditions, I say minimum 5 miles at top speeds, it lasted for more than 5 miles but that's me managing the speeds....
How do you get your kayak registered?
Check this out th-cam.com/video/eUnmagRSTQg/w-d-xo.html
What color would you buy?
This color
Awesome video on a great yak !!!!
Thanks 🙂
How much is the battery?
The 100ah is $700 the 60ah is about 360, check the links 🙂
@@AliexFolgueira whoah! That would be a $4500 kayak. Is $4500 justified on that kayak? Is it worth it? Is the kayak that good?
I thought having fillets on your vessel is illegal
Not here in Florida, all you have to do is keep the rest of the fish in case they wanna measure it
ALEX BEFORE I ASKED YOU FOR THE REVIEW OF THE BEST KAYAKS
YOU COULD JUST SAY
THE FREEKIN OLD TOWN AUTO PILOT
😝🌈🌈💩🤣
I like your chanclas ..!
Do you know if they sell for guys 😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 (joke)
This boat is so popular is in backorder till sept
Aliex Folgueira
Don’t worry I already got two 😂👍🏻
What ever happened to Kayaks being the affordable way to get in the water? These kayaks are almost 4 grand. I could buy a NuCanoe canoe and throw my own minnkota on it and save 1600 bucks. At these cost, you might as well get a micro skiff.
Man there have been $10,000 paddle kayaks on the market for ever, there has always been $200 kayaks... You get what you want
Aliex Folgueira I feel you, I just am starting to see the price creep into small skiff territory. Would I love the 120 or the 136, absolutely! Can a weekend warrior drop 4 grand on a kayak with a trolling motor? Debatable. Still great review and great content!
Tons of weekend warriors out there with $4000 hobie PAs
..but wait... there’s more!
我想买一台这样的船在纽约市有这样的店吗？
If you're tired of it by now just send it to KS i'll take it off your hands.
So,…They are letting you use the kayak for Free,…It’s cost you absolutely nothing but your time,…Basically! Sweet Deal for U.
and we all know time is nothing, we live for ever
Hope they're paying you a good clip for this pitch.
They are paying me sooo much money I need two 100,000 sqft warehouses to house all that cash, banks don't have room
Hey bro are the pelican pw100 available?
Wish they were still 3800…..😂
at this rate $10,000 next year lol
Your number are off. Your FL Should be first PS Should be last on right side of your Kayak
Thanks
That battery life sounds awful. Who goes through all the effort to get out there and only fish for 2 hours?
What? Full speed 2 hours that means you can be on the water the whole day
Aliex Folgueira ohhh okay. So what would you say the projected battery life would be under normal use? I didn’t realize you said under full speed
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
interesting yak....but I dont think so
it is worth every penny, great yak old town made, try one if you can
Another review
Full review 🙂
TLDW- no
Sold out, at least 6 months waiting list….
@@AliexFolgueira that’s current situation for Hobies where I’m at
Funny, you called it a boat at 9:14
Always call it a boat, I know people know what I mean
No way. Trolling motors don't last very long. Especially in salt water. Neither do batteries. So basically in 5 to 7 years at best you'll be replacing both the motor and battery. Can you imagine spending all that money and having to invest another 2k in 5 years otherwise your kayak is useless ?? No way. And Spot Lock on a kayak isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's always wind out there if you fish the salt. And on Spot Lock you'll always spin around and wind up facing into the wind. Always casting straight into the wind. Unless your on a quiet lake.. that sucks.
Bro 99% of the people keep their yaks for like a year then upgrade, spot lock works amazingly and iPilot is just magic
That's funny. For the people out there that don't plan on buying a new 4k kayak every year...replacing a trolling motor and battery in 5 years is insane. Sorry. Not only are you casting into the wind... you're pissing into it at the same
@@jasonbowden1422 I don't know about you but I still have my trolling motor from 2014, I really don't see your point here, At the end of the day buy whatever you want, if you don't wanna spend $3800 on this kayak don't, there are plenty of people out there who has and will.
I have no problem spending 4k on a kayak. I've got 2. Spending that on one that will need 2k worth of upgrades in 5 to 7 years or else it sits in the garage... yes I think that's stupid. How much do you think you'll get for it when you want to upgrade to something else but it needs a new trolling motor and battery ? This is hard to understand ? If you think trolling motors last much longer than that Alex you haven't been fishing very long. And even if they are still working they perform like crap. Same exact thing with the batteries. People that are given expensive fishing kayaks don't care about about 5 years down the road... but the rest of us do. Does it always bother you so much when someone has a different opinion about one of the kayaks in your unbiased reviews?