I LOVE the addition of the half lap ! I also love quarter sawn white oak. I am going to shamelessly copy this design into my own kitchen, I will give you credit for the idea. I use a water based finish for 90 plus percent of my work. I either use Mohawk wipe on stain or more often Watco Danish oil to accentuate the grain and more importantly give added depth to the look of the finish. Then spray over with the water based finish. Obviously this is labor intensive but well worth it to me. So Glad I found your channel , you do impressive work !
@@TodaysCraftsmen that's a great idea! Y'all have excellent woodworking abilities. I learn something every time I watch y'all! Thank you very much Sir's!
Hello guys! Just to let you know that I really enjoy your videos and the same time learn. Thank you for show us your knowledge, I’m a subscriber from Mexico greetings!! And keep up the good work.
Very good. I really enjoyed seeing the finishing rack. I never thought of that. What little I spray... I have to search for places to lay my wet pieces. LOL Good Job!
Nice set-up for spraying. Especially like the 3-d printed pieces to be able to accomodate different size materials. I know everyone has their preferences as to spray methods, but I always preferred Air Assist Airless. You have a top of the line system with the Apollo, and I bought one to check it out. I guess I don't have the knowledge or patience to dial it in, so I switched back to AAA. For one I hate having the gun with a cup on it with material in it. (Even with the PPP). It's so easy to "dial in" the AAA and get an incredible finish that it's a no brainer for me. But, like I said, everyone has their choice. As always, great videos.
AAA is definitely the gold standard. We spray in such small amounts and so infrequently that I can’t get behind cleaning out a pump and hose! We could run the Apollo with a remote pressure pot and fluid hose right to the gun. I’d be interested in trying that out if we had a ton of spraying to do.
Any reason you prefer the poly over lacquer? I feel like sanding between coats on that many pieces with all those tight corners is a pain and adds a lot of time, with lacquer no sanding required.
We like them a lot. Theres so many products out there and they seem to all perform at a high level. The key is just finding one that works for you and stick to it.
do you use the finish with an amber tint to get the "typical" finish color people are familiar with? I guess it'd be a finish "color" similar to what the hard wax oil finishes typically have.
The amber we were using was more of like a medium shellac color. But yes you have the right idea. Adding a touch of amber to a clear water based finish will help make it look more like an oil based finish!
@@TodaysCraftsmen thanks man. The Apollo sprayer has a PSI setting? I have a Fuji q5 and all it has is a graduated 'power' scale. Or do you run a gauge in line on your air hose?
I’m pretty sure they say the Enduro line edges out any of the regular General Finishes stuff in terms of durability and chemical resistance. The Enduro 1k products have nearly the durability of a 2k product (which they also sell Enduro 2k)
@@TodaysCraftsmen If you had said you couldn't justify the cost because of your volume I can't argue that but it doesn't that much time at all .The time saved in spraying more than makes up for the cleaning. You should get a demo. Not having to refill the cup, the weight of the cup that bulky hose. That was a decent amount of work I saw in your shop. Tell you what, you don't know what your missing.
Could not agree more with the kremlin or AA idea. If you are spraying with a 1k material not sure you need to completely clean the unit from one day to the next.
I don’t think the Apollo will ultimately be what we settle on, especially if we continue to spray more. But for the time being I think it’s a good fit! There’s definitely a reason all/most production shops are using AAA.
Would like to see you spray the face frames. That’s where I have the most problems with runs and over spray
They can definitely be tricky trying to hit all of those edges.
I LOVE the addition of the half lap ! I also love quarter sawn white oak. I am going to shamelessly copy this design into my own kitchen, I will give you credit for the idea. I use a water based finish for 90 plus percent of my work. I either use Mohawk wipe on stain or more often Watco Danish oil to accentuate the grain and more importantly give added depth to the look of the finish. Then spray over with the water based finish. Obviously this is labor intensive but well worth it to me. So Glad I found your channel , you do impressive work !
We’d love to see the kitchen when you’re done! Thanks for watching.
Great presentation, thank y'all very much!
Thanks, Tim! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TodaysCraftsmen Iove your presentations. I also love your work ethic. I wish y'all gave shop tours.
We were thinking about an updated shop tour in the ‘new’ (1 year old) shop.
@@TodaysCraftsmen that's a great idea! Y'all have excellent woodworking abilities. I learn something every time I watch y'all! Thank you very much Sir's!
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 keep your eyes peeled!
Terrific work Jeff! 👍👍
Thanks, Steve! 💪🏼
Hello guys! Just to let you know that I really enjoy your videos and the same time learn. Thank you for show us your knowledge, I’m a subscriber from Mexico greetings!! And keep up the good work.
Muchas gracias! 🙏🏼
Very good. I really enjoyed seeing the finishing rack. I never thought of that.
What little I spray... I have to search for places to lay my wet pieces. LOL
Good Job!
It can be a struggle! Plus you have to make sure you don’t kick up dust.
Nice set-up for spraying. Especially like the 3-d printed pieces to be able to accomodate different size materials. I know everyone has their preferences as to spray methods, but I always preferred Air Assist Airless. You have a top of the line system with the Apollo, and I bought one to check it out. I guess I don't have the knowledge or patience to dial it in, so I switched back to AAA. For one I hate having the gun with a cup on it with material in it. (Even with the PPP). It's so easy to "dial in" the AAA and get an incredible finish that it's a no brainer for me. But, like I said, everyone has their choice. As always, great videos.
AAA is definitely the gold standard. We spray in such small amounts and so infrequently that I can’t get behind cleaning out a pump and hose! We could run the Apollo with a remote pressure pot and fluid hose right to the gun. I’d be interested in trying that out if we had a ton of spraying to do.
Any reason you prefer the poly over lacquer? I feel like sanding between coats on that many pieces with all those tight corners is a pain and adds a lot of time, with lacquer no sanding required.
We’re no finish experts but we definitely prefer working with water based products.
Do you guys use the colored enduro as a substitute for painted cabinets?
We do!
@@TodaysCraftsmen thanks! Been trying to get away from paint if possible, and thinking of trying the enduro coatings.
We like them a lot. Theres so many products out there and they seem to all perform at a high level. The key is just finding one that works for you and stick to it.
Great video and great tips! Thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching!
Looks good, Jeff. Thanks for the info.
Bill
Thanks for watching, Bill! 🙏🏼
Nice looking doors.
Thank you!
do you use the finish with an amber tint to get the "typical" finish color people are familiar with? I guess it'd be a finish "color" similar to what the hard wax oil finishes typically have.
The amber we were using was more of like a medium shellac color. But yes you have the right idea. Adding a touch of amber to a clear water based finish will help make it look more like an oil based finish!
Nice job Jeff. Can you comment on tip size and wherther you thinned the finish at all?
Thank you sir! For this coat it was unthinned. 1.0 needle and nozzle. For the final coat I thinned about 5%. PSI was at 3.0.
@@TodaysCraftsmen thanks man. The Apollo sprayer has a PSI setting? I have a Fuji q5 and all it has is a graduated 'power' scale. Or do you run a gauge in line on your air hose?
It does. It goes from 0-10 psi in tenth of a psi increments. It’s nice!
@@TodaysCraftsmen you fancy.
😜😜😜
How does the Enduro compare to the Pre cat finish from General Finishes? Is it a tougher finish?
I’m pretty sure they say the Enduro line edges out any of the regular General Finishes stuff in terms of durability and chemical resistance. The Enduro 1k products have nearly the durability of a 2k product (which they also sell Enduro 2k)
What spray booth is that?
It’s a ColMet open faced booth
Where do you buy the Enduro from? Are they able to do custom tints and match other manufacturers paint colors?
We buy from United Finishes. They tint to any of the major manufacturers.
@@TodaysCraftsmen thank you
Anytime!
Get yourself a Kremlin or similar. You'll never look back.
We don’t do enough volume to justify the hassle of cleaning the pump and hose! But Kremlins are pretty much the gold standard.
@@TodaysCraftsmen If you had said you couldn't justify the cost because of your volume I can't argue that but it doesn't that much time at all .The time saved in spraying more than makes up for the cleaning. You should get a demo. Not having to refill the cup, the weight of the cup that bulky hose. That was a decent amount of work I saw in your shop. Tell you what, you don't know what your missing.
Could not agree more with the kremlin or AA idea. If you are spraying with a 1k material not sure you need to completely clean the unit from one day to the next.
I don’t think the Apollo will ultimately be what we settle on, especially if we continue to spray more. But for the time being I think it’s a good fit! There’s definitely a reason all/most production shops are using AAA.
I can see it happening down the road. But the Apollo is working great for us right now!