I bought your product. New. 60 hrs on it now. Been in shop 4 months for injectors. Bad enough warranty not going to cover. But the customer service is next to none. Poor product poor service.
Kioti makes a solid tractor. It's looked at by some as the black sheep but absolutely should not be. Very good products and company from my experience!
I bought my first tractor in 2021, Kubota BX. Really liked it but quickly outgrew it. Started looking at upgrading to B series, almost pulled the trigger, then found Kioti. Bought the CX2510, which is comparable to (or better than) a Kubota LX2610 in almost every way, and costs less than a BX! Love it so far. Very beefy machine.
Why wouldn’t you have a Kioti, they’re hands down amazing and come loaded with amazing features. I’m one year into my RX7320 and don’t regret getting rid of my 5075E at all.
I would put them pretty high up on the list of options. They are a little more expensive, but not nearly as bad as Deere or Kubota I also just recorded a video about the comparable Kabota and it is $20,000 more than this kioti
I've got a 2022 DK5310 and I have been so impressed with it, it's exactly what I want out of a tractor and I love mine. I just got my Dad to buy a CK4010 that he got a screaming deal on off of Marketplace. I've been really impressed with Kioti and I think they've gained a lot of ground in the US tractor market in the past few years
I recently purchased a NX6010 HST Cab. Have 20 hrs on it so far. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! Lot of tractor for the money. I also own a smaller New Holland and there is no comparison. Big money difference between the other orange and green tractors that are a lot of hype and no go! Ha!
That Kioti is a nice tractor. You are going to have a tough decision to make after you have checked out all of the different brands. It’s fun tractor shopping but making the decision on which one to buy is tough. I enjoy you bringing us along on your tractor shopping adventures. Thanks Brock
I bought a DK 45 in 2003 from Rodgers and Sons in Cherry Creek, NY. Love this tractor. It has 3,300 hard working hrs. on it and still runs great. It shows some wear, but to be expected. Regular maintenance is critical in avoiding major problems. It runs a backhoe, FEL, cutters, box blade, chipper, rototiller and post hole digger regularly. Also have a 2410 with front mount snowblower and for lighter duty jobs. It has 1,100 hours on it and again only minor problems. Both cost me less than JD, Kubota or New Holland. I'd buy another if the wife would let me!
I bought a JD 2038R in 2017. I liked the tractor but wanted a cab. I was going to buy a JD3039R until a friend suggested I check out Kioti. I ended up buying a Kioti CK4020SE HST. The Kioti has a lot more features, more lifting capacity and a wider stanch compared to the JD 3039R. The interior of the cab is significantly more roomy. Price was more than $10,000 less than the JD
Love our DK6020se w/cab. It’s solid, lifts a lot, pulls implements vary well, runs smoothly and only regens about every 40hours as opposed to our previous NH that did every 4hours.
Bought a used 2021 NX5010 last fall and it’s been really nice so far. Used it for snow removal, box blading, and manure removal this winter with no issues. Strong machine so far, will be doing pasture mowing this summer. Big plus are the R14 tires - no need for chains and the rut damage is less severe. Property has a lot of clay soil and was a total quagmire this winter with all the rain - never got stuck once.
Kioti's NX and NS series are extremely similar. The NX has had a few electrical gremlins that are likely sorted out at this point, but I think a lot of people have just gone with the NS since it's electronically a little more simple but still offers nearly all the same features and identical capacities. I've had my Kioti for almost a year now and it's been very reliable for me and my local dealer is great.
I picked up a used Kioti RX7320 cab model with 131 hours at 20 months of age for less than $40k including a 7’ landscape rake. It has been a welcome addition to our 89 acres here in northern TN. Tim
As a former mobile tire guy, I noticed that whatever dealer was good in an area there were a lot of those travtors in that area. Makes sense. If you can get good service and parts with any sort of reliabilty buy the tractor!
Agree. Plus there are few tractor dealers in most areas. Where I live JD, Kubota, and kioti are the major alternatives. A few other tractors can be bought but you have to look and repairs and parts are iffy or nonexistent. I wish tractor came with foot locker sized tool boxes. 😊😊
I have a 2005 CK25 HST with 1270 hrs the only problem was one of the injection pump gears sheared some teeth off was able to get a new and improved gear set from Moose Diesel. From what I understand that was a weak link for a couple of years all better now! 🚜
If there is any way that you can keep the 2038 I think you should. If I was a homeowner in town I probably wouldn’t want you driving around my property with a 50hp tractor. Just my personal 2 cents! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
50hp in a compact frame will give you more capability with nominal frame size increase. Put R14 hybrid tires on it and you'll be easy on the turf as well. My Kioti NX5010HST Cab fits in a standard size residential garage space. They have sizes from 45hp to 60hp on the same frame.
I really like Kioti, looked at them a few times. My only issue is the dealer network. The closest one to me shut down and now the closest is about to 2 hrs away from me. Deere, CNH, kubota, and massey are all 25-35 min from me.
I have an NX5510 Cab and it's a fantastic tractor. I got it with a backhoe and cutter. I since bought a box and a Quick Attach grapple. I can't say enough about this setup. The Quick Attach grapple is a beast. Also the cab is the only way to go.
Was shopping for my first tractor, started with Kubota of course then found Kioti. Been in the US for 40 years, build their own tractors top to bottom, and for the price of a luxury Kioti with implements you can get a base Kubota with no add ons
Recently purchased a CK3520SEH Cab, because it was a very attractive shade of orange. I'm kidding, the pretty orange was just a bonus. I was looking at the big three South Korean brands, Kioti, TYM and LS. It came down to dealer location and support, plus they had a very good deal when I was ready to buy. I'm very pleased with it, but I think any three of these brands would be a good choice both in quality aw well as economically. 🚜
Really like all your tractor comparison videos. I think that the Kioti DK6020HSE Cab, would have been a closer comparison to the TYM T574C including price wise, both great tractors.
I know I'm the only one in the whole wide world that problems like I do, but the first thing I look for in a tractor is where the top-link is connected to. On all L-Series Kubota's the top-link is hooked to back of transmission, so on my L3400 when it was heavy strain one time, my trans case crack, that a $3-5k complicated hard repair. On Kioti the top-link is on lift-housing so if that cracks it looks to me like a much cheaper easier repair. So when you look at tractors you should look at that, just in case you might be the 2nd guy in the whole wide world to crack a trans case on a heavy pull......
I just traded a 1025R for TYM474hst ! Tough to compare but omg it’s a hoss! So much more capacity than a JD and way less money! I’ve got about 40 hours and it’s a beast
My personal opinion is KIOTI is coming on stronger than any other brand chasing the tails of KUBOTA and DEERE.The options you get for the money are very good.WARRANTY is awesome.And finally,i believe a tractor should be looked at as an investment,The Kioti may be a few grand more up front,but you'll get a lot better return in the back end than TYM or LS at trade in or resale.Im pro KUBOTA,but not foolish enough to believe KIOTI does not make a good machine.Stick to KIOTI.
That big dial next to the cruise control is fwd/rev reaction time...not cruise control speed. Do you want to be able to change directions abruptly from fwd to rev when applying the opposite pedal or do you want a more gentle change in direction for less wear and tear on the hydrostat.
Still a lot of money! I will stick with my New Holland 1715(27? Hp) I bought for 6k, with 117 hrs. Included front end loader, discs, shredder, box blade, turning plow, and middle buster. Had it for 4 years now, 450 additional hours. Replaced the battery, and routine maintenance.
That’s a crazy good deal. I’ve looked at a lot of used tractors. For 6K probably doesn’t have tires or an engine. Beat up 90s models with issues are going around 10 K
I wounder how the come up with the lift capacity of the loader? I have farmed my whole life and I can tell you it takes alot more than a 4600 lb tractor to lift and carry 2700 lbs safely
That’s the base weight. That’s not what it weighs when you’re using it. Fluid in the tires, wheel, weights, and a rear ballast. My tractor has a list weight of 2500 pounds. The way I run it. It weighs 5500.
Has I commented on the last vidéo, take a look at the Kubota Grand L series It has similare features with the Kioti you looked at. But I guess it's more expensive.
Right after this, I went to the Kubota booth and recorded. They didn’t have the exact Tractor you are talking about, but I did pull numbers on it after reviewing the Tractor they did have That grand L is 20,000 more than the Kioti and 28,000 more than the TYM
@@RockhillfarmYT Kubota make great tractors but I think they are over priced compared to the competition. I have a Grand L (2008) with 4000 hours on it and I wouldn't let it go for anything. It's a great machine but I don't think I could aford a new one today.
I was eyeing the CK2610 cab in 2017 but went with the Kubota BX23S for the backhoe. Traded it in on the CK2620se cab June of 23. Kubota makes a fine machine, but $29k for an L2502 is absurd. I was quoted just shy of 40k for the new LX3520SU cab. No suspension seat. The Other Orange is flirting with Greene prices, so Im gone. No issues with my Kioti.
Right after recording this video, I went over and recorded one at the Kubota booth For this Tractor comparable to the one I just showed you’re looking at $3000 more than John Deere 20,000 more than Kioti and 28,000 more than TYM And it doesn’t lift as much weight or have as many features Kubota is popular because of their reputation for durability but the pricing is absurd
I think you've compared so many tractors, the feature set of all of them are overwhelming your brain. I offer two corrections here, based upon my knowledge of my own LS MT357, which you showed earlier. Not trying to find fault it what you've done, just offering a hand. One of the PTO features you found under the cover was auto-PTO, where the PTO automatically stops on lifting the 3-point lift. You said this was similar to a feature on the LS tractor. I think you were mistaken on that. I'm confident that is a TYM feature, and NOT an LS feature. Also, one of the cruise control features you were describing the Kioti to have, that you seemed to be very impressed with, was a pretty good description of the engine speed control on the pillar of the LS MT357. On the LS it adjusts with Up/Down buttons, not a knob.
I was there about three weeks ago. I’m completely confident that LS is the one that has the feature that stops the PTO when you lift the three-point. We had long conversation about having the extra technology. The TYM is very basic
"Definitely has a lot more technology on it than I was expecting!" 🤣 This is where the "professional" farmer walks away and look for something more simplistic that he can service himself that isn't going to nickel and dime his business to death with electrical issues 🤨🤑
Does the Kioti require you stop and wait for regen? While that New Holland 55 Workmaster is speaking to me, the tractor that keeps working during regen cycles would win ANY contest. That LS MT357 is actually winning so far in my little mind...
Two gentlemen from Kubota Tractors left Kubota and started there own Tractor company, Had an agreement with Kubota to change the paint a shade different then the Kubota
I’ve heard a lot of people say that. I’m also pretty confident that it isn’t true. You’re talking about a Korean company and a Japanese company and the tractors today are not copies of each other
Between kioti and the dealership I purchased my CK3510SE from, Manchester Motors in Manchester Maine, has been to most horrible purchasing experience I have have had. Just an absolutely horrible dealership selling a cheaply made tractor compared to my JD790.
Kioti has the best HP to price of any tractor out there. Their warranties surpass John Deere and CaseHI by miles. Their diesel engines are made by one of the best companies in the world. This is just my OP{NION, but my family has been farming since the eighteen hundreds and have run EVERYTHING ever made for millions of hours. In todays world, the only other small tractor out there that even holds a candle to Kioti is MF. You can't go wrong with either one of them.
I appreciate you sharing your experience. It all sounds like good information except the first sentence is not true. You’re going to pay about $8000 less for a TYM tractor with the same horsepower. I’m running the TYM 574 currently. More lift capacity for a lot less money.
I have a bobcat which is a kioti ,I love it , I would get the cheapest one and one with 2 hydrostatic petals , I wish I bought a cheaper one and got more for my buck, but this is just my thoughts they all are good
Other thoughts that I just had while taking a shower, I would make sure I had a third function because I added mine remotes on the back extendable, three-point arms, external lifting thing for the three-point arms, my bucket control, not way out in front of me like on Kabota I like it close Good lifting weight I think everything else I could live without but those are the things that I would want on my tractor if I got a new one mine does not have most things but I bought mine because of the two petals and the sales person that's why I went with Bobcat because I like the salesman and they're real nice to me way better than the coyote dealer a mile down the road
Well, I guess we are even. On my drive home I was thinking I should’ve tried harder to talk to you longer. I enjoy meeting subscribers. You definitely didn’t interrupt me. If anything that I was talking to, might have been impressed that someone knew who I was.
@RockhillfarmYT I just took it as you being a bit on the shy side. Big difference between talking to a camera and talking to someone in person. This coming from someone who spent most of their life as an introvert!!
I would be interested in hearing your reasons why… Right after recording this, I went to the Kubota booth and recorded a video about the comparable model. It was $20,000 more and it’s a much less capable machine in terms of lifting. I have trouble spending that much extra on a machine that can’t do the same work. Kioti has been making equipment since 1947 and sold their first tractor in the US in 1986. What don’t you like about them? The only thing Kubota has going for them is their name. And I do acknowledge the name is synonymous with dependability. I also talked to a lot of Tractor owners and very few people ever complain about a Kioti
Its sad, time and again, I hear " Pick a dealer that you can trust ". Im from the " how about a piece of equipment that does not require a dealer relationship to own !? " Something I can pull service on and just use... ? You'd likely not be surprised I buy Kubotas new... buy it and forget it. Not crapping on any other brand, but the concept of going into something you know is going to be a problem, so pick a good dealer, no thanks.
I went straight from that booth to the Kubota booth and priced a similar model. You’re looking at $25,000 more for a machine with less capability and less features So you could buy this tractor and a side-by-side and take your family on vacation. And still have some money left over for any repairs you need And be able to pick up the log you want. I’ve talked to a ton of kioti owners, and they all love their machines
The vast majority of people will never need the dealer for serious repairs but anybody can turn out a turd. I've seen larger operations choose their equipment based on the local dealers and their relationships with them. I've been looking for a couple weeks now and I've driven a couple of kiotis, rx7320 and a 50 hp ns, I think it was. On Friday I tested a yanmar yt359 and absolutely loved it! Impeccable build quality and simply a wonderful tractor but I doubt that I pursue it.... Why? Because I didn't care for the dealer and the next closest dealer is an hour and a half further away. Being a yanmar it's likely going to be an extremely good machine but you never know...
@@danielrobey1759 Yes, Ive lived that experience of the dealer relationship, I ran a small structural demolition company, a decade ago, we had a fleet of bobcat loaders for cleanup work. 12 machines, mostly abused, but not neglected. Our selling/servicing bobcat dealer could not keep half the fleet up and running on any given day. I thought at the time, we had more of a "not suitable tool" problem, more than a dealer relationship/competence problem. The owner did not want to embrace the solution ( finding durable loaders than worked more than not, likely a brand change ) so the band played on, and we ran with mostly broken units most of the time, and spent a fortune trying to fix garbage. My point to you're reply, I've seen the worst case scenario of running on a "dealer relationship ". Might also explain, my approach to equipment, buy stuff that only needs repairs when you physically break it, not because if fails due to engineering shortcomings, or dare I say built in obsolescence. BTW, I owned a Deere 970 Compact ( Yanmar tractor ) Loved that tractor, it needed nothing while I owned it ( 10yrs ), and always performed flawlessly.
We don’t need technology on our tractors, trucks are bad enough I want reliability and less CRAP to break keeping me from getting the WORK DONE. Anyone that wants tech on their purchases does not work on their own stuff. People are going to feel a little stupid when they go to sell these tractors 10-20 yrs down the line and all the stupid buttons are broken.
@@RockhillfarmYT It's not that I do not like them it's just a tractor is designed to work hard and to be out in all kinds of weather conditions. Rain, wind. snow, sleet, and there are not. I think of them and plastic the same way as not being part of a tractor construction, which is just part of the reason I went with the Branson and Kukje engines.
Makes perfect sense to me. That and the price is why I’m looking at TYM so much. There’s something to like about all the brands, but I’m leaning TYM right now. Whether that’s the legacy Branson models or the TYM. they are just simple.
DO NOT BUY ANY KUBOTA PRODUCT I BOUGHT A NEW KUBOTA LX 4020 TRACTOR TO USE FOR A SNOW REMOVAL BUSINESS IN BRIAN HEAD, UT. I HAD TO PURCHASE FROM A DEALERSHIP IN COLORADO AS IT WAS THE ONLY KUBOTA DEALERSHIP WITHIN A 1000 MILE SEARCH TO HAVE THE TRACTOR I NEEDED FOR THE PURPOSE INTENDED. The Dealership, Wickham Tractor in Fort Collins, CO sold me the tractor and added Howes diesel treatment to the tank as well as selling me the remainder of the bottle to use to prevent the fuel from jelling. I Used as per specs. Tractor was purchased on 11/21/23 and I picked it up and transported it back to UT. Tractor was in operation for 17.2 hours before it would not start. Local Kubota dealerships said they would not come out to try to fix it as we did not buy it from them. Took it to Las Vegas, NV, as they were closest Kubota dealership, dropped off on 1/8/24 at 730 am. Kubota dealership said the fuel smelled funny so it wasn't covered under warranty and said $12000.00 plus to fix. The DPF was completely clogged and the only codes were low temp MAF sensor and no communication with EGR. Western area rep said there was no fuel to test because I drained it. This is a Lie. Had more than 6 gallons of fuel in it when i dropped it off. I have all the emails and correspondences and text messages, proving they denied coverage for adding a fuel additive. Sergio at Kubota customer service said, “When I put fuel in the tractor it voided warranty.” Apco, the Kubota dealership in Las Vegas, sent out the injectors for testing they came back as bad due to fuel contamination on 1/23/24. Kubota persisted in their point of me putting bad fuel in the Tractor. When I called the tester, I pressed about the fuel contamination. The person who did the test, said it was visible metal in the injectors that most likely came from the high pressure fuel pump. There was no metal in the fuel tank, fuel filter or fuel water separator. The dealership i bought the tractor from said they were the only ones that could help me at this point due to Kubota policy. Eddie at Wickham tractor told me I needed to bring the tractor back to them, 1367 miles round trip. and they would sell me a new one because I had broken this one. And would see about trying to fix the one I had already bought for a discount. I transported the tractor back to Greely, CO to Wickham on 1/18/24 they tested the fuel that was still in the filters and it came back as fine 2/8/24 so they were going to replace the entire engine. This could take between 3 to 9 months. My warranty coverage says all warranty work to be completed within 30 days. On 2/28/24 I found out there was internal Kubota Service Bulletin that came out to all the dealers the week before I bought the tractor stating the very problems my tractor was having. They knew this, and still denied coverage, and finally, when I presented this fraud to Kubota, on 3/7/24 Wickham tractor said they were going to replace the tractor with a new one, but wouldn't give me a timeline of when I would get a new one and I would have the expense of picking it up from them verses a local dealership. These delays have cost me my business and reputation to move snow I had to pay out my competitors and cancel and refund all my contracts. A service bulletin for this tractor was issued before I bought it stating this very problem. and it was to be fixed at Kubotas expense. They knew the problem existed, they tried to blame it on me for adding fuel supplement, they tried to coerce me into buying a new tractor on top of the broken one so i didn't lose my business. they refused to cover the cost of repair until i proved their fraud, and intent by pushing the narrative and then changing and deleting emails. I have all emails and correspondence showing the timeline, the fraud and intent.
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I bought your product. New. 60 hrs on it now. Been in shop 4 months for injectors. Bad enough warranty not going to cover. But the customer service is next to none. Poor product poor service.
@ sorry to hear it, but personally I don’t have a product. I’m not affiliated with any of these brands
Kioti makes a solid tractor. It's looked at by some as the black sheep but absolutely should not be. Very good products and company from my experience!
I have had my Kioti for two years and I love it. I have a cab which I love.
I bought my first tractor in 2021, Kubota BX. Really liked it but quickly outgrew it. Started looking at upgrading to B series, almost pulled the trigger, then found Kioti. Bought the CX2510, which is comparable to (or better than) a Kubota LX2610 in almost every way, and costs less than a BX! Love it so far. Very beefy machine.
Why wouldn’t you have a Kioti, they’re hands down amazing and come loaded with amazing features. I’m one year into my RX7320 and don’t regret getting rid of my 5075E at all.
I would put them pretty high up on the list of options. They are a little more expensive, but not nearly as bad as Deere or Kubota
I also just recorded a video about the comparable Kabota and it is $20,000 more than this kioti
@@RockhillfarmYT That's why I went Kioti. I used that savings to buy all the "starter" implements and attachments I needed.
@kevincasey9551 glad to hear you like yours. Mine has been junk from day one. Year old in the shop 4 months of that and warranty worthless
Best advise I ever received… Do what you can with what you have where you’re at.
My best friend bought a Kioti 3 years ago and its been a great machine. i enjoy it when i have used it.
I've got a 2022 DK5310 and I have been so impressed with it, it's exactly what I want out of a tractor and I love mine. I just got my Dad to buy a CK4010 that he got a screaming deal on off of Marketplace. I've been really impressed with Kioti and I think they've gained a lot of ground in the US tractor market in the past few years
I recently purchased a NX6010 HST Cab. Have 20 hrs on it so far. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! Lot of tractor for the money. I also own a smaller New Holland and there is no comparison. Big money difference between the other orange and green tractors that are a lot of hype and no go! Ha!
That Kioti is a nice tractor. You are going to have a tough decision to make after you have checked out all of the different brands. It’s fun tractor shopping but making the decision on which one to buy is tough. I enjoy you bringing us along on your tractor shopping adventures. Thanks Brock
I also did Kabota at this show. It’s recorded.
I bought a DK 45 in 2003 from Rodgers and Sons in Cherry Creek, NY. Love this tractor. It has 3,300 hard working hrs. on it and still runs great. It shows some wear, but to be expected. Regular maintenance is critical in avoiding major problems. It runs a backhoe, FEL, cutters, box blade, chipper, rototiller and post hole digger regularly. Also have a 2410 with front mount snowblower and for lighter duty jobs. It has 1,100 hours on it and again only minor problems. Both cost me less than JD, Kubota or New Holland. I'd buy another if the wife would let me!
I bought a JD 2038R in 2017. I liked the tractor but wanted a cab. I was going to buy a JD3039R until a friend suggested I check out Kioti. I ended up buying a Kioti CK4020SE HST. The Kioti has a lot more features, more lifting capacity and a wider stanch compared to the JD 3039R. The interior of the cab is significantly more roomy. Price was more than $10,000 less than the JD
Love our DK6020se w/cab. It’s solid, lifts a lot, pulls implements vary well, runs smoothly and only regens about every 40hours as opposed to our previous NH that did every 4hours.
I have the RX7320 and you’re right, it’s big!
Bought a used 2021 NX5010 last fall and it’s been really nice so far. Used it for snow removal, box blading, and manure removal this winter with no issues. Strong machine so far, will be doing pasture mowing this summer. Big plus are the R14 tires - no need for chains and the rut damage is less severe. Property has a lot of clay soil and was a total quagmire this winter with all the rain - never got stuck once.
Just got a new ck 3520 with cab. I love it
I'd consider Kioti if I was in the market for another tractor. There's half a dozen or so brands that are competitive in price and quality today.
Kioti's NX and NS series are extremely similar. The NX has had a few electrical gremlins that are likely sorted out at this point, but I think a lot of people have just gone with the NS since it's electronically a little more simple but still offers nearly all the same features and identical capacities. I've had my Kioti for almost a year now and it's been very reliable for me and my local dealer is great.
I picked up a used Kioti RX7320 cab model with 131 hours at 20 months of age for less than $40k including a 7’ landscape rake. It has been a welcome addition to our 89 acres here in northern TN. Tim
Great Video Brock. Going on 3 years with my Rx7320 and love it. No regrets and great dealer. My JD sits in the barn
Wendell NC North American HQ. We have a Tym 474CH. Bought from Smiths Enterprise in Salemburg NC. Very reliable and can't beat the warranty
As a former mobile tire guy, I noticed that whatever dealer was good in an area there were a lot of those travtors in that area. Makes sense. If you can get good service and parts with any sort of reliabilty buy the tractor!
Agree. Plus there are few tractor dealers in most areas. Where I live JD, Kubota, and kioti are the major alternatives. A few other tractors can be bought but you have to look and repairs and parts are iffy or nonexistent. I wish tractor came with foot locker sized tool boxes. 😊😊
I have a CK30 bought back in 2006. The only thing that has gone wrong was the injection pump died and I had it rebuilt, 540 hours and all is well.
Pete Wall! I just bought a new Kioti from them! Good people! Hello from New Mexico!
I bought a ck 2620 about 6 months ago. No issues for the money Compared to kabota coyote all day twice on sunday
I have a 2005 CK25 HST with 1270 hrs the only problem was one of the injection pump gears sheared some teeth off was able to get a new and improved gear set from Moose Diesel. From what I understand that was a weak link for a couple of years all better now! 🚜
If there is any way that you can keep the 2038 I think you should. If I was a homeowner in town I probably wouldn’t want you driving around my property with a 50hp tractor. Just my personal 2 cents! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
50hp in a compact frame will give you more capability with nominal frame size increase. Put R14 hybrid tires on it and you'll be easy on the turf as well. My Kioti NX5010HST Cab fits in a standard size residential garage space. They have sizes from 45hp to 60hp on the same frame.
I really like Kioti, looked at them a few times. My only issue is the dealer network. The closest one to me shut down and now the closest is about to 2 hrs away from me. Deere, CNH, kubota, and massey are all 25-35 min from me.
I have three Kioti’s dating back to 2004. Have, not had. Still own them and am very satisfied. One complaint is the filters are very expensive.
I have an NX5510 Cab and it's a fantastic tractor. I got it with a backhoe and cutter. I since bought a box and a Quick Attach grapple. I can't say enough about this setup. The Quick Attach grapple is a beast. Also the cab is the only way to go.
First of all looking with your 56 lbs missing. Congrats on that. Kind of wish I could have compared one of those and JD when I bought mine.
Hi brock thanks for sharing the video one thing you need to look at is auxiliary hydraulic oil flow the more the better
Brock, thanks for the comparison. I'm in the market for a littler "25hp" range and kioti is up on my list
Get the c k 2620 you love it
@@javiertorres7460 I think they make a quality tractor
I have had my ns 4710 for 2 years and love it.
I have an NS4710 also and it’s a workhorse.
I know I've said it before but I truly love my kioti ck3510 se hydrostatic tractor.
I think they are very competitive
Great video, thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you.
Art from Ohio
Was shopping for my first tractor, started with Kubota of course then found Kioti.
Been in the US for 40 years, build their own tractors top to bottom, and for the price of a luxury Kioti with implements you can get a base Kubota with no add ons
Exactly right
Recently purchased a CK3520SEH Cab, because it was a very attractive shade of orange. I'm kidding, the pretty orange was just a bonus. I was looking at the big three South Korean brands, Kioti, TYM and LS. It came down to dealer location and support, plus they had a very good deal when I was ready to buy. I'm very pleased with it, but I think any three of these brands would be a good choice both in quality aw well as economically. 🚜
Really like all your tractor comparison videos. I think that the Kioti DK6020HSE Cab, would have been a closer comparison to the TYM T574C including price wise, both great tractors.
Thanks
I know I'm the only one in the whole wide world that problems like I do, but the first thing I look for in a tractor is where the top-link is connected to. On all L-Series Kubota's the top-link is hooked to back of transmission, so on my L3400 when it was heavy strain one time, my trans case crack, that a $3-5k complicated hard repair. On Kioti the top-link is on lift-housing so if that cracks it looks to me like a much cheaper easier repair. So when you look at tractors you should look at that, just in case you might be the 2nd guy in the whole wide world to crack a trans case on a heavy pull......
Hey Brock... the NX has been all but discontinued. Problems with the hydrostatic transmission and relay parts.
I just traded a 1025R for TYM474hst ! Tough to compare but omg it’s a hoss! So much more capacity than a JD and way less money! I’ve got about 40 hours and it’s a beast
Awesome upgrade
My personal opinion is KIOTI is coming on stronger than any other brand chasing the tails of KUBOTA and DEERE.The options you get for the money are very good.WARRANTY is awesome.And finally,i believe a tractor should be looked at as an investment,The Kioti may be a few grand more up front,but you'll get a lot better return in the back end than TYM or LS at trade in or resale.Im pro KUBOTA,but not foolish enough to believe KIOTI does not make a good machine.Stick to KIOTI.
That big dial next to the cruise control is fwd/rev reaction time...not cruise control speed.
Do you want to be able to change directions abruptly from fwd to rev when applying the opposite pedal or do you want a more gentle change in direction for less wear and tear on the hydrostat.
Thanks for the information.
The + / - switch allows you to dial in the cruise control speed like you were talking about though...its just a bit more finicky is all.
LS tractors are nice. Seem to have the highest flow rates.
Great video Brock. I love my Kioti.
The tractor is built in Raleigh NC.😊
Still a lot of money! I will stick with my New Holland 1715(27? Hp) I bought for 6k, with 117 hrs. Included front end loader, discs, shredder, box blade, turning plow, and middle buster. Had it for 4 years now, 450 additional hours. Replaced the battery, and routine maintenance.
That’s a crazy good deal. I’ve looked at a lot of used tractors.
For 6K probably doesn’t have tires or an engine.
Beat up 90s models with issues are going around 10 K
I wounder how the come up with the lift capacity of the loader? I have farmed my whole life and I can tell you it takes alot more than a 4600 lb tractor to lift and carry 2700 lbs safely
That’s the base weight. That’s not what it weighs when you’re using it.
Fluid in the tires, wheel, weights, and a rear ballast.
My tractor has a list weight of 2500 pounds. The way I run it. It weighs 5500.
I love my Kioti DK4710SE.
Has I commented on the last vidéo, take a look at the Kubota Grand L series
It has similare features with the Kioti you looked at.
But I guess it's more expensive.
Right after this, I went to the Kubota booth and recorded. They didn’t have the exact Tractor you are talking about, but I did pull numbers on it after reviewing the Tractor they did have
That grand L is 20,000 more than the Kioti and 28,000 more than the TYM
@@RockhillfarmYT Kubota make great tractors but I think they are over priced compared to the competition.
I have a Grand L (2008) with 4000 hours on it and I wouldn't let it go for anything.
It's a great machine but I don't think I could aford a new one today.
I was eyeing the CK2610 cab in 2017 but went with the Kubota BX23S for the backhoe. Traded it in on the CK2620se cab June of 23. Kubota makes a fine machine, but $29k for an L2502 is absurd. I was quoted just shy of 40k for the new LX3520SU cab. No suspension seat. The Other Orange is flirting with Greene prices, so Im gone. No issues with my Kioti.
Right after recording this video, I went over and recorded one at the Kubota booth
For this Tractor comparable to the one I just showed you’re looking at $3000 more than John Deere 20,000 more than Kioti and 28,000 more than TYM
And it doesn’t lift as much weight or have as many features
Kubota is popular because of their reputation for durability but the pricing is absurd
The Kioti has a lot of great features, but I think I still prefer the TYM for it's simplicity.
Simplicity and price. I’m a big fan
I think you've compared so many tractors, the feature set of all of them are overwhelming your brain. I offer two corrections here, based upon my knowledge of my own LS MT357, which you showed earlier. Not trying to find fault it what you've done, just offering a hand.
One of the PTO features you found under the cover was auto-PTO, where the PTO automatically stops on lifting the 3-point lift. You said this was similar to a feature on the LS tractor. I think you were mistaken on that. I'm confident that is a TYM feature, and NOT an LS feature.
Also, one of the cruise control features you were describing the Kioti to have, that you seemed to be very impressed with, was a pretty good description of the engine speed control on the pillar of the LS MT357. On the LS it adjusts with Up/Down buttons, not a knob.
I was there about three weeks ago. I’m completely confident that LS is the one that has the feature that stops the PTO when you lift the three-point.
We had long conversation about having the extra technology.
The TYM is very basic
Thank you Brock from Doss farms
Look at a nx or ns series of KIOTI they seem the right size for you
"Definitely has a lot more technology on it than I was expecting!" 🤣
This is where the "professional" farmer walks away and look for something more simplistic that he can service himself that isn't going to nickel and dime his business to death with electrical issues 🤨🤑
Does the Kioti require you stop and wait for regen? While that New Holland 55 Workmaster is speaking to me, the tractor that keeps working during regen cycles would win ANY contest. That LS MT357 is actually winning so far in my little mind...
It does not
I love my CK 26/20 se cab.
Preach
Tilt steering?
I like that nx tractor I have jd but if I was buying a new tractor now I would get the nx
Two gentlemen from Kubota Tractors left Kubota and started there own Tractor company,
Had an agreement with Kubota to change the paint a shade different then the Kubota
I’ve heard a lot of people say that. I’m also pretty confident that it isn’t true.
You’re talking about a Korean company and a Japanese company and the tractors today are not copies of each other
Between kioti and the dealership I purchased my CK3510SE from, Manchester Motors in Manchester Maine, has been to most horrible purchasing experience I have have had. Just an absolutely horrible dealership selling a cheaply made tractor compared to my JD790.
Boy, it would be great to see what you could do on your property with a 50hp tractor!
It’s going to happen
interesting Brock ty
my number one complaint with Kioti is how jerky the hydrolics are
Great video today God bless
Thanks
Kioti has the best HP to price of any tractor out there. Their warranties surpass John Deere and CaseHI by miles. Their diesel engines are made by one of the best companies in the world. This is just my OP{NION, but my family has been farming since the eighteen hundreds and have run EVERYTHING ever made for millions of hours. In todays world, the only other small tractor out there that even holds a candle to Kioti is MF. You can't go wrong with either one of them.
I appreciate you sharing your experience. It all sounds like good information except the first sentence is not true.
You’re going to pay about $8000 less for a TYM tractor with the same horsepower. I’m running the TYM 574 currently. More lift capacity for a lot less money.
Come drive mine when you get back.
I’m back and I’ve got videos stacked ahead.
Shoot me a message when you got free time. today or next week or whenever
I’ll keep my 2014 Dk40se hst. That fuel tank is in a terrible place. That will get wiped out sooner or later.
Wish I had bought kioti instead of deere!
Morning
I have a bobcat which is a kioti ,I love it , I would get the cheapest one and one with 2 hydrostatic petals , I wish I bought a cheaper one and got more for my buck, but this is just my thoughts they all are good
Other thoughts that I just had while taking a shower, I would make sure I had a third function because I added mine remotes on the back extendable, three-point arms, external lifting thing for the three-point arms, my bucket control, not way out in front of me like on Kabota I like it close Good lifting weight I think everything else I could live without but those are the things that I would want on my tractor if I got a new one mine does not have most things but I bought mine because of the two petals and the sales person that's why I went with Bobcat because I like the salesman and they're real nice to me way better than the coyote dealer a mile down the road
I don’t understand. Why does TYM market through all these different brands? Just make a TYM.
It was nice meeting you yesterday, Brock. Looking back, I want to apologize for interrupting you. That was rude of me.
Well, I guess we are even.
On my drive home I was thinking I should’ve tried harder to talk to you longer. I enjoy meeting subscribers.
You definitely didn’t interrupt me. If anything that I was talking to, might have been impressed that someone knew who I was.
@RockhillfarmYT I just took it as you being a bit on the shy side. Big difference between talking to a camera and talking to someone in person. This coming from someone who spent most of their life as an introvert!!
@rickvanskike669 I’ve been an extreme introvert my whole life. Like wouldn’t go in a store if I could avoid it.
I’ve mostly gotten over that now
Ain’t nothing wrong with that. Most people suck these days. Social isolation can be a very good thing
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I'd stay with Kubota.
I would be interested in hearing your reasons why…
Right after recording this, I went to the Kubota booth and recorded a video about the comparable model.
It was $20,000 more and it’s a much less capable machine in terms of lifting. I have trouble spending that much extra on a machine that can’t do the same work.
Kioti has been making equipment since 1947 and sold their first tractor in the US in 1986.
What don’t you like about them?
The only thing Kubota has going for them is their name. And I do acknowledge the name is synonymous with dependability.
I also talked to a lot of Tractor owners and very few people ever complain about a Kioti
@@RockhillfarmYT Which 2 models are you comparing for a $20,000 difference?
Be looking at a cab
Its sad, time and again, I hear " Pick a dealer that you can trust ". Im from the " how about a piece of equipment that does not require a dealer relationship to own !? " Something I can pull service on and just use... ? You'd likely not be surprised I buy Kubotas new... buy it and forget it. Not crapping on any other brand, but the concept of going into something you know is going to be a problem, so pick a good dealer, no thanks.
I went straight from that booth to the Kubota booth and priced a similar model.
You’re looking at $25,000 more for a machine with less capability and less features
So you could buy this tractor and a side-by-side and take your family on vacation. And still have some money left over for any repairs you need
And be able to pick up the log you want.
I’ve talked to a ton of kioti owners, and they all love their machines
The vast majority of people will never need the dealer for serious repairs but anybody can turn out a turd. I've seen larger operations choose their equipment based on the local dealers and their relationships with them.
I've been looking for a couple weeks now and I've driven a couple of kiotis, rx7320 and a 50 hp ns, I think it was. On Friday I tested a yanmar yt359 and absolutely loved it! Impeccable build quality and simply a wonderful tractor but I doubt that I pursue it.... Why? Because I didn't care for the dealer and the next closest dealer is an hour and a half further away. Being a yanmar it's likely going to be an extremely good machine but you never know...
@@danielrobey1759 Yes, Ive lived that experience of the dealer relationship, I ran a small structural demolition company, a decade ago, we had a fleet of bobcat loaders for cleanup work. 12 machines, mostly abused, but not neglected. Our selling/servicing bobcat dealer could not keep half the fleet up and running on any given day. I thought at the time, we had more of a "not suitable tool" problem, more than a dealer relationship/competence problem. The owner did not want to embrace the solution ( finding durable loaders than worked more than not, likely a brand change ) so the band played on, and we ran with mostly broken units most of the time, and spent a fortune trying to fix garbage. My point to you're reply, I've seen the worst case scenario of running on a "dealer relationship ". Might also explain, my approach to equipment, buy stuff that only needs repairs when you physically break it, not because if fails due to engineering shortcomings, or dare I say built in obsolescence. BTW, I owned a Deere 970 Compact ( Yanmar tractor ) Loved that tractor, it needed nothing while I owned it ( 10yrs ), and always performed flawlessly.
We don’t need technology on our tractors, trucks are bad enough I want reliability and less CRAP to break keeping me from getting the WORK DONE. Anyone that wants tech on their purchases does not work on their own stuff. People are going to feel a little stupid when they go to sell these tractors 10-20 yrs down the line and all the stupid buttons are broken.
In that case, the only new Tractor you should be interested in is TYM
Also, nothing wrong with just sticking to older machines
Sounds like my 30yr old BELARUS, bought new. Never, and l mean never failed to start in 30yrs, my poor JD F935, can't say the same🤕
To much electronics
If you don’t like electronics TYM is the clear choice
@@RockhillfarmYT It's not that I do not like them it's just a tractor is designed to work hard and to be out in all kinds of weather conditions. Rain, wind. snow, sleet, and there are not. I think of them and plastic the same way as not being part of a tractor construction, which is just part of the reason I went with the Branson and Kukje engines.
Makes perfect sense to me. That and the price is why I’m looking at TYM so much.
There’s something to like about all the brands, but I’m leaning TYM right now. Whether that’s the legacy Branson models or the TYM. they are just simple.
If you want a copy of a Kubota you buy one 😁
Because it’s orange?
Still looking for my 1st compact it'll have to be after this idiot administration is out of office 👍
DO NOT BUY ANY KUBOTA PRODUCT
I BOUGHT A NEW KUBOTA LX 4020 TRACTOR TO USE FOR A SNOW REMOVAL BUSINESS
IN BRIAN HEAD, UT. I HAD TO PURCHASE FROM A DEALERSHIP IN COLORADO AS IT WAS
THE ONLY KUBOTA DEALERSHIP WITHIN A 1000 MILE SEARCH TO HAVE THE TRACTOR I
NEEDED FOR THE PURPOSE INTENDED. The Dealership, Wickham Tractor in Fort Collins, CO
sold me the tractor and added Howes diesel treatment to the tank as well as selling me the
remainder of the bottle to use to prevent the fuel from jelling. I Used as per specs. Tractor was
purchased on 11/21/23 and I picked it up and transported it back to UT. Tractor was in
operation for 17.2 hours before it would not start. Local Kubota dealerships said they would
not come out to try to fix it as we did not buy it from them. Took it to Las Vegas, NV, as they
were closest Kubota dealership, dropped off on 1/8/24 at 730 am. Kubota dealership said the
fuel smelled funny so it wasn't covered under warranty and said $12000.00 plus to fix. The DPF
was completely clogged and the only codes were low temp MAF sensor and no
communication with EGR. Western area rep said there was no fuel to test because I drained it.
This is a Lie. Had more than 6 gallons of fuel in it when i dropped it off. I have all the emails and
correspondences and text messages, proving they denied coverage for adding a fuel additive.
Sergio at Kubota customer service said, “When I put fuel in the tractor it voided warranty.”
Apco, the Kubota dealership in Las Vegas, sent out the injectors for testing they came back as
bad due to fuel contamination on 1/23/24. Kubota persisted in their point of me putting bad
fuel in the Tractor. When I called the tester, I pressed about the fuel contamination. The person
who did the test, said it was visible metal in the injectors that most likely came from the high
pressure fuel pump. There was no metal in the fuel tank, fuel filter or fuel water separator. The
dealership i bought the tractor from said they were the only ones that could help me at this
point due to Kubota policy. Eddie at Wickham tractor told me I needed to bring the tractor
back to them, 1367 miles round trip. and they would sell me a new one because I had broken
this one. And would see about trying to fix the one I had already bought for a discount. I
transported the tractor back to Greely, CO to Wickham on 1/18/24 they tested the fuel that was
still in the filters and it came back as fine 2/8/24 so they were going to replace the entire
engine. This could take between 3 to 9 months. My warranty coverage says all warranty work
to be completed within 30 days. On 2/28/24 I found out there was internal Kubota Service
Bulletin that came out to all the dealers the week before I bought the tractor stating the very
problems my tractor was having. They knew this, and still denied coverage, and finally, when I
presented this fraud to Kubota, on 3/7/24 Wickham tractor said they were going to replace the
tractor with a new one, but wouldn't give me a timeline of when I would get a new one and I
would have the expense of picking it up from them verses a local dealership. These delays
have cost me my business and reputation to move snow I had to pay out my competitors and
cancel and refund all my contracts. A service bulletin for this tractor was issued before I
bought it stating this very problem. and it was to be fixed at Kubotas expense. They knew the
problem existed, they tried to blame it on me for adding fuel supplement, they tried to coerce
me into buying a new tractor on top of the broken one so i didn't lose my business. they
refused to cover the cost of repair until i proved their fraud, and intent by pushing the narrative
and then changing and deleting emails. I have all emails and correspondence showing the
timeline, the fraud and intent.