Hey Chloé, Chloe here (again 😂) Absolutely loved watching your video. Thank you so much for reviewing the second season 🌻🌻🌻 Glad you like it a lot more than the previous season ❤️
Hey Chloe! Autistic guy from NY here. Thought you and everyone else was awesome on the show! I hope they bring you (and Mark, and Michael, and everyone else) back for Season Three! :)
@@MelsArchive Yeah, I'm also autistic but I didn’t want to go on the show. I was nervous about how I would be edited. My friend is a bit older I hope for him that it goes well.
Hey, Chloé, Heather here. I'm actually made friends with Chloe, Teo, Rosie, Olivia and Amanda and I also have autism too (got diagnosed when I was 11 or 12) :). I love your videos too (I've watched other autistic creators too!). Thank you for your review.
I loved you Heather on the show so much. Reminded me of myself in so many ways. I am also autistic. Olivia really touched my heart because she helped me understand parts of me I didn't understand. I was crying watching this show because it changed my life. I wasn't diagnosed till 30 so my whole life I just struggled and felt so off. Struggled with friends and social cues. Thanks for sharing your story
Hey there's a new autism movie that isn't terrible! It's called The Reason I Jump (I'm assuming the jumping is part of the main character's stimming) and this one is about a nonverbal boy. I saw a segment on morning TV about it and they actually brought in an autistic author to weigh in on it! If you want to do a review of it, go for it! Although this was on UK TV so idk what Australia does for British movies lol
@@popicalbubbles not sure where you live but it's in selected cinemas in the UK. I think they mentioned it's coming to a streaming service but not sure which one
I love this show while watching it I never saw it as exploitation I was fascinated impressed and learned so much from watching the cast I saw myself in them I felt so much empathy and related to all of them. At the end of of the day we are all seeking same thing love and acceptance. Hoping for season 3
Thank you soooooo much for this! I watched season 1 before I figured out I was autistic & felt fairly traumatized by it. Infantalization and condescension is one of my most uncomfortable things sensory-wise and looking back huge impetus for masking and not figuring this out til middle aged. I have been curious about season 2, but not wanting to go through that upset again, and it now feeling personal! Was so nice to experience it in a safe way with someone whose reaction is so in line with what I'm feeling as I'm seeing it. And yes, happy as heck that I am on spectrum and now know it!
I find it interesting how you mentioned the lack of diverse representation because something else I noticed kind of in relation to it is that anyone who was bi or any sexuality that’s more than one gender always got paired with another gender and only when that didn’t work out got put with their same gender. To me that felt very heteronormative as they did it with everyone attracted to multiple genders
Avoiding conflict is true for me as well. I am aware that this often results in me being manipulated by neurotypicals, because they expect me to be passive. And are usually shocked when sometimes I don't do what they expect, and instead they get dissent.
Chloe!!! Your eye sparkle comment... making me tear up ... I feel like I learn a lot of social skills when I am writing the characters for my novels and stories. (Writing is my eye sparkle)
I saw these well before my diagnosis and I was obsessed. It felt so comforting, supportive and endearing. Now I’m diagnosed it feels hard to relate to the display of these people, but I don’t find it offensive. It’s like a lactose intolerant content creator, reviewing their annual Christmas home made rockyroad. . They LOVE IT, it’s definitely genuine in intent. It’s spreading rockyroad awarness to people that’s never heard of the scrumptious homemade rockyroad, But it’s not a reliable source or rockyroad information. They don’t really know how it’s meant to taste
I wonder if the “forced” editing is actually to give NTs a sense of how painful some of these scenarios might feel for some autistic people. Possibly being on the spectrum exacerbates all of those forced feelings.
i’ve had a inkling that i might be autistic or neurodivergent in some way but i have a irrational/rational fear of getting a diagnosis because there are plenty of countries that have essentially demonized autism and they don’t have the same rights as other people and that could easily be implemented where i live
I love your videos Chloe :) Thank you for helping me get through my diagnosis and making me feel like I belong when no one else really did❤️.Also I Love your flower crowns - can you do a video on them??
I love the show; 'Love on the spectrum' so much, I am obsessed and watched the episodes several times. I felt like I was watching parts of myself and I felt the show was asmr for me. I'm always on the look out for a new season. I can hope 😊. I felt like the people on the show were my friends cos I didn't really have friends at school. I am a non neurotypical , empath and am HSP. I don't think I have autism but I'm definately non neuro typical. Neuro typical people think I'm very strange and sometimes I'm happy that they think that but some days, on my low days it hurts and I can't cope. 🦎🐌🦋🌻🌼⚘☘
Awe man it's kinda tear bringing for me. I'm the same way. I could go on for hours about certain things. Even in some TH-cam comments where my original idea is to quickly make a point, I end up goin off on tangents for like multiple large paragraphs lol. Idk I guess theres just certain things I'm heavily passionate about.
Omg mood lol, I always get the "damn no need for an essay or to get so worked up" responses on comments I post, even after I've been interacting back and forth with them which always confuses me immensely 😆 it's like, well what do you expect? I'm clearly passionate about this, I'm not backing down lol if you are bored then stop responding to me 😅
Hi Chloè, I absolutely love your reaction to this show. I’m on the autism spectrum as well so I’m glad that there’s a show to help spread awareness about this condition. If I was emotionally available I’d definitely apply for the show.
I personally don't mind either but that me but I know from a medical point of view and in the care industries in the UK if they do not use person first language they can risk been done for industrial abuse so as this is a film about a medical subject there could be legal reasons why they have to use that term. 💕💕💕💕Love your videos 💕💕💕💕
Yeh it's true, the media is told to do person first language as that's the preference written in the disability act law on America so probably the case for other countries too. :)
Okay, but what NOONE seems to be talking about is how incredibly patriarchal and predatory Michael, Kelvin, and Mark are. They seem obsessed with "getting" a girlfriend. They are goal-oriented and not at all love-oriented. And the way Mark talks about "a nice girl", etc. makes me want to puke. Autistic men shouldn't be exempt from being held accountable for their mysogyny.
AND "getting" a girlfriend should NOT be called an accomplishment. It's not a box to check off or an achievement of some sort. Relationships should not be seen in that way no matter how neurodivergent or neurotypical you are.
I know what you mean about Michael but I don’t agree about Mark. He seems to make an effort to figure out the interests of his dates and make them feel good and I don’t think he has any misogynistic notions about women.
I'll admit I watched the whole show without ever considering the neurotypic perspective or the fact it was probably made for a neurotypical audience. For a serious critique thats extremely relevant but that point of view probably made me enjoy the show a lot more than I would have otherwise. At the same time, while its definitely not the best representation, I feel like its still better than 90% of autistic representation out there, specially since it shows REAL autistic people
i was in film school for 9 months in 2021, i had 2 teachers who were a nightmare for someone like me. their classrooms were built for neurotypical people, i was constantly struggling and was made to feel like i wasnt trying hard enough, that i was just lazy and selfish, i constantly felt like i didnt fit in.
I had to pause at 1:07 because I don't like spoilers, it affects my adhd a lot ^.^' But I always appreciate your videos as a fellow autie ^.^ Thank you for being a voice to us that is kind and empathetic, rather that infantized. (literally) :)
Great introspective analysis of the show. I will watch the show with your voice as background narrator in my mind. Definitely one of your sparkle talents.
Have you seen Everything's Gonna Be Okay? It has a number of autistic actors who play autistic characters and it would be cool to see your perspective on it! Love your videos Chloe :)
It's a bit like The Elephant Man the dating show (in that it's a bit like a freak show for NTs to watch) but I still like it for showing a diverse range of autistic people.
I loved watching this alongside you. I really like the people, just not the production at all and some of the accommodations they chose not to follow through on.
I believe one problem that I have with this show in particular is that the dating atmosphere for some people on the show is quite uncomfortable for them and it is honestly heartbreaking because the producers behind the show said that they would listen to autistic people and their needs.
There's a good TV series called 'A Kind Of Spark' that recently came out! I'm based in Australia so I watched it on ABC Iview but I think it's also on BBC in the UK. The main three lead actors are all autistic and all the autistic characters and played by autistic actors!! There are also some really amazing fantasy/mystery elements (ties in with the main characters' special interest!) and it seemed like good autism representation - I would really love to see your review on it! 🧡
This is amazing. I know it's become a specialized subject for you, because you've talked about it so much, but the insight and education is packed so tightly here, that this should be an extra on the DVD of Love on the Spectrum.
I have a family members who have autism and when it comes to the likes and dislikes I think it helps people who are not on the spectrum understand autism better. How? Because when you are around them and display or expose them to things they don’t like which causes a negative reaction some people who have never been around someone with autism can be insensitive to their reaction rather than empathize. Also i think it helps the viewer know autism doesn’t exclude that person from having similar dislikes from someone who doesn’t have autism. I can see why some will see the show the way they do but I’m grateful that this show has helped communities be inclusive to men and woman with autism. It’s a step! 🙏🏽
I agree with everything you say here!! Its the number 1 reason that I struggle to watch it even though I love all the people on it, the editing and clear neurotypical lense just makes me immensely uncomfortable. I'm glad that they seemed to have improved somewhat, especially with representing relationships between both neurotypical and neurodiverse folks. But I don't think I'll be watching it myself for a while, it still feels a lot like it's made for neurotypical viewers looking in (Which makes me feel yuck lol) and it makes me feel especially weird that when I tell someone I'm autistic one of the first things neurotypicals suggest is that I watch the show, or have I heard of it, alongside all the other movies that show stereotyped representations of being autistic such as the good doctor. I always cringe a bit cause I'm not sure what to say other than those shows are really made more with neurotypicals in mind than autistic people as viewers.
@@toomuchinlove I asked ! I would love to know any autistic people's opinion on this show that is about autism. I personally don't like when people say "nobody asked" because I see it as condescending.
@@toomuchinlove So everyone has to agree with the creator of this video or else they can shut up? No one is right about everything and I vehemently disagree that this show is in any way infantilizing or exploitative. Obviously Chloe's autism is nowhere near as bad as that of some of the cast of the show so of course she sees it as terrible.
@@katesclub8841 the actual condescending part is acting as if theres nothing wrong with the show bc you personally werent offended, this show was not made originally with autistic people in mind, it was made with neurotypical peoples entertainment in mind. labeling us as an entertainment piece rather than people, they did better season 2. it wasnt necessarily what actually happened in the show as much as it was made to entertain people not actually help autistic people in the slightest at first.
I haven’t watched it. I just can’t. These type of shows, that showcase us, make me feel so incredibly uncomfortable. Probably because I then get compared to whoever is on the screen by my parents. I didn’t get a diagnosis until I was 40 and I think the doctor only gave in because I refused to shut up and sit down. My journey started with Aspergirls when my life was beyond rationalising things away. Yes, people have a hard time sometimes but no one else seemed to have the struggles that I have. No one else had to end a day with a family block of Cadbury’s or on bad days, 2+ And having a so-called male professional tell me I wasn’t on the spectrum because I could talk and female was enough to make me see red. So parents if you’re watching this and dithering about sharing your child’s diagnosis with them or not telling them because labels suck, please, please, please don’t make them grow up thinking that they’re broken, useless, worthless failures. You might not want to or be ready to accept the reality but trust me when I say that your beautiful child will know they’re different and then the soul crushing shit happens. Please let them grow with their diagnosis. Let them shine and be who they are! Yes, labels suck when randomly assigned but having a name for what you’re going through makes a huge difference. It was a massive relief when I got mine at 40. I’m still trying to undo all the negative self talk and it’s not easy but at least I can now understand why things are so hard and learn to be kinder. Please tell them. I’d do anything to save precious children from growing up thinking like I did and still do.
Chloe, I was so happy that there was a Neurotypical Lady dating an Autistic Man:)!! And Sam is a really sweet Guy, with that Lady:)!! I hope that they hit it off and fall in love:)!!! And I so agree with you on the editing to manipulate people's emotions and promoting prejudices to be really nasty. And I think Cassandra is a really sweet Lady and I like that when she was question about "not looking Autistic" she replied, "You can not see my brain":)! I also agree with you that it is very wrong to have their "dislikes" to be about sensory overload or steaming. I think it should be about things like doing you like ballet, swimming, Do you like the ocean or the mountains? Do you like the country or the city? what kind of music do you like?, what kind of books do you read?, what are your hobbies?, what are your morals and values in life?, and do you love animals?, etc. In other words, things anyone would ask anyone they are getting to know!! Chole, thank your reviews and you have taught me so much:)!! You are so awesome:)!!!
I think most people are afraid to go on the show lol I’d be nervous and I’m typically told I don’t look autistic but I freeze whenever I’m in front of the camera. Hmm 🤔 does anybody else have this problem?
there wasnt enough reaction to michael's grossly misogynistic actions and words in the first season. everyone just giggled and allowed him to think it was okay
Conversations go both ways and I would be uncomfortable if the other person was quiet. Cassandra wasn’t awkward at all tbh I feel the guy she was on the date with was the awkward one
Hi, I have only just found your channel and only just this week watched Love on the Spectrum (both seasons). Thank you for this balanced, fair and insightful review (you cram a lot of content into your video!) I totally agree with all the points you make. Season 2 is definitely an improvement on Season 1 but still uncomfortable watching at times. I really don't know what to make of the coach Jodie...the way she speaks to contestants as though they are young children REALLY winds me up and why is she hell bent on teaching NT norms to ND people, especially when the programme mostly only pairs participants with other autistic people?! Seems bizarre to me! Quite a few mentions of functioning labels which I don't agree with, but I guess if that's how an autistic person identifies or the specifics of their diagnosis (even though the diagnostic criteria has changed and diagnoses are now not functioning specific) then they will use that kind of language. Sending thanks, respect and big smiles from the UK.
I would be an target for self- pity and being patronised in this show as an Autistic person. Cause when I'm incredibly nervous and always am in new surroundings and on camera, I stumble on words an lot of times..... Sometimes even in the first couple of sentences before I get going 💕 I'm also developmentally- delayed an condition overlapping with myself being Autistic
I see where you are coming from. The fact that this dating coach is treating dating as a second language. She does the role playing type in thing. This in my eyes is Ok. I did abit with my children where one has or not. I think that it helps with the anxiety part though, it might seem robotic. I also think that, if they show the worst part, then when they do come up in real life we might be more understanding and less uncomfortable. 🤔
As an autistic person I can't bring myself to watch this show because it comes across so condescending! I had a family member explain it to me and they found the show endearing, which to me immediately rang alarm bells that it infantilises autistic people. The use of a dating coach in this show especially doesn't sit right with me. While I've had help from my psychologist in the past to learn scripts and how to fit in to make some interactions more comfortable, I think showing this contributes to autistic masking and sends the message that we need to act neurotypical to have relationships and to fit in. It reinforces the message to neurotypical people that there's something wrong with us and that we don't have empathy- many of us do, but just show it differently. It allows them to look down on us and continue expecting us to fit in with them rather than making the effort to fit in with us. Many autistic people have stressful dating experiences and many of us experience abuse in relationships. If they want to include a dating coach, they could show someone educating an autistic person on what they deserve in a relationship, what healthy communication looks like (eg communicating when you need space/support, dealing with conflict), how to balance your needs while dating (eg comfortable settings, time limits etc to avoid sensory triggers & meltdown/shutdowns).
Definitely , there is no need for a dating coach if they are going out for a date with autistic people , they understand each other and they don't need to mask unlike being around NT people. I am not autistic , but deaf . I told this to a AUSLAN interpreter at TAFE because she had a neurodiverse son half her age , and told her about the show
I have been working with Autistic people for years and I thought it was great and not contrived. You can't cherry pick. Dating and relationships are difficult for most people in this community. Their are so many different types. You can't speak for them simply because you have Autism. You can't cover every nuance. " if you met one person with Autism...you have met one person with Autism"
That fact that you use person first language shows your understanding of the autistic community. It demonstrates that working with autistic people for years doesn’t give you a basic understanding.
@@Daz-ov7co yeah that's it. Think nothing of the fact that I've worked with dozens of people over the years with great success. Their familes love the progress I've made, but you will summarize this based on a linguistic prescription.
@@FireinTheBowl Would it be professional and something you are proud to stand behind, speaking to one of your autistic clients this way? Would this count as talking over or silencing an autistic voice? You have told the OP that she can’t speak for all autistic people and have positioned yourself as gate keeper because you have worked with autistic people. You have further supported your argument by stating the “families” are happy with the progress that you are attributing to your work. You did not centre the autistic person in that measure of your success. And you have attributed that success to your work rather than the autistic person, their family or anyone else involved. And you are happy to position yourself as more valid or knowledgeable than me without knowing anything about me at all. I’m another autistic voice you are comfortable to speak over as an allistic person.
I didn't see it that way at all. It is people who happen to have autism looking for love. Also an opportunity to learn more about ASD as I have two young grandchildren on the spectrum. How about a positive attitude? I didn't see anyone being made fun of.
Chloe where did u watch it I cant find season 2 on netflix, not watchomg some of your video yet till I see season 2. O always love the flower crowns on you. Im Autistic to
i hate the stereotypes with autism i had people say i dont have it because i am not a super computer with maths and well you dont look Autistic it really sucks i blame movies for that
Cholesterol! You look and act SOOOOO much like Ava from an Australian show called the inbestigators (Its a children's show on Netflix, but you have a VERY similar personality!)
Chloe saying “Cassandra if you are seeing this - can I be your best friend?” well, I’m seeing this chloe, can I be your best friend? 🙈🥺
Chloe plsssss this is amazing
Hey Chloé, Chloe here (again 😂)
Absolutely loved watching your video. Thank you so much for reviewing the second season 🌻🌻🌻
Glad you like it a lot more than the previous season ❤️
Hey Chloe! Autistic guy from NY here. Thought you and everyone else was awesome on the show! I hope they bring you (and Mark, and Michael, and everyone else) back for Season Three! :)
@@thoughtfuldevil6069 I’m from ny too
your profile picture is so pretty.
They are currently looking for people for the US version. I have a friend who is going on the show for the US version.
That’s cool
@@MelsArchive Yeah, I'm also autistic but I didn’t want to go on the show. I was nervous about how I would be edited. My friend is a bit older I hope for him that it goes well.
@@ThisGirlReviews If it’s ok with him, can I know what his name in the show is?
I honestly wouldn’t go on the show either lol
@@Aethelhadas He audition but it's not a 100 percent that he will be in the show.
i can’t stand dating shows but this one is pretty cool
Hey, Chloé, Heather here.
I'm actually made friends with Chloe, Teo, Rosie, Olivia and Amanda and I also have autism too (got diagnosed when I was 11 or 12) :). I love your videos too (I've watched other autistic creators too!). Thank you for your review.
I loved you Heather on the show so much. Reminded me of myself in so many ways. I am also autistic. Olivia really touched my heart because she helped me understand parts of me I didn't understand. I was crying watching this show because it changed my life. I wasn't diagnosed till 30 so my whole life I just struggled and felt so off. Struggled with friends and social cues. Thanks for sharing your story
Hey there's a new autism movie that isn't terrible! It's called The Reason I Jump (I'm assuming the jumping is part of the main character's stimming) and this one is about a nonverbal boy. I saw a segment on morning TV about it and they actually brought in an autistic author to weigh in on it! If you want to do a review of it, go for it! Although this was on UK TV so idk what Australia does for British movies lol
That's awesome!!!! Where can I watch?🙂
I haven't seen it yet but the film is also actually written by an autistic person :)
@@popicalbubbles not sure where you live but it's in selected cinemas in the UK. I think they mentioned it's coming to a streaming service but not sure which one
I saw something about this on the internet I haven't seen it though
Hey Sophie, I’m Sophie I will definitely check it out💕
I love this show while watching it I never saw it as exploitation I was fascinated impressed and learned so much from watching the cast I saw myself in them I felt so much empathy and related to all of them. At the end of of the day we are all seeking same thing love and acceptance. Hoping for season 3
Thank you soooooo much for this! I watched season 1 before I figured out I was autistic & felt fairly traumatized by it. Infantalization and condescension is one of my most uncomfortable things sensory-wise and looking back huge impetus for masking and not figuring this out til middle aged. I have been curious about season 2, but not wanting to go through that upset again, and it now feeling personal! Was so nice to experience it in a safe way with someone whose reaction is so in line with what I'm feeling as I'm seeing it. And yes, happy as heck that I am on spectrum and now know it!
I find it interesting how you mentioned the lack of diverse representation because something else I noticed kind of in relation to it is that anyone who was bi or any sexuality that’s more than one gender always got paired with another gender and only when that didn’t work out got put with their same gender. To me that felt very heteronormative as they did it with everyone attracted to multiple genders
The fairy lights and ivy sneakily falling down at 0:54 haha
They really said 'ight, imma head out'
Avoiding conflict is true for me as well. I am aware that this often results in me being manipulated by neurotypicals, because they expect me to be passive. And are usually shocked when sometimes I don't do what they expect, and instead they get dissent.
while it took till the last episode...i was stoked to see some representation of Wiradjuri culture too!
Chloe!!! Your eye sparkle comment... making me tear up ... I feel like I learn a lot of social skills when I am writing the characters for my novels and stories. (Writing is my eye sparkle)
I saw these well before my diagnosis and I was obsessed. It felt so comforting, supportive and endearing. Now I’m diagnosed it feels hard to relate to the display of these people, but I don’t find it offensive. It’s like a lactose intolerant content creator, reviewing their annual Christmas home made rockyroad. . They LOVE IT, it’s definitely genuine in intent. It’s spreading rockyroad awarness to people that’s never heard of the scrumptious homemade rockyroad, But it’s not a reliable source or rockyroad information. They don’t really know how it’s meant to taste
I wonder if the “forced” editing is actually to give NTs a sense of how painful some of these scenarios might feel for some autistic people. Possibly being on the spectrum exacerbates all of those forced feelings.
i’ve had a inkling that i might be autistic or neurodivergent in some way but i have a irrational/rational fear of getting a diagnosis because there are plenty of countries that have essentially demonized autism and they don’t have the same rights as other people and that could easily be implemented where i live
I love your videos Chloe :) Thank you for helping me get through my diagnosis and making me feel like I belong when no one else really did❤️.Also I Love your flower crowns - can you do a video on them??
You look gorgeous Chloe! Btw I was sad when your flowers dropped in the background :(
just wanted to point out one of the main characters (Sharnae) is Aboriginal and incorporated elements of her culture into the wedding!
I love the show; 'Love on the spectrum' so much, I am obsessed and watched the episodes several times. I felt like I was watching parts of myself and I felt the show was asmr for me. I'm always on the look out for a new season. I can hope 😊.
I felt like the people on the show were my friends cos I didn't really have friends at school. I am a non neurotypical , empath and am HSP. I don't think I have autism but I'm definately non neuro typical. Neuro typical people think I'm very strange and sometimes I'm happy that they think that but some days, on my low days it hurts and I can't cope. 🦎🐌🦋🌻🌼⚘☘
Awe man it's kinda tear bringing for me. I'm the same way. I could go on for hours about certain things. Even in some TH-cam comments where my original idea is to quickly make a point, I end up goin off on tangents for like multiple large paragraphs lol. Idk I guess theres just certain things I'm heavily passionate about.
Omg mood lol, I always get the "damn no need for an essay or to get so worked up" responses on comments I post, even after I've been interacting back and forth with them which always confuses me immensely 😆 it's like, well what do you expect? I'm clearly passionate about this, I'm not backing down lol if you are bored then stop responding to me 😅
I actually like "Person on the Spectrum" it feels less possessive. I think it is an okay compromise
I loved the interjection by your pet. XD Made me giggle out loud. So cute! :3
Hi Chloè, I absolutely love your reaction to this show. I’m on the autism spectrum as well so I’m glad that there’s a show to help spread awareness about this condition. If I was emotionally available I’d definitely apply for the show.
Love you Chloe!! Thank you for always being so sweet and cool :D
Ahhhhh gurl how are you soo pretty you rock every outfit you wear!!! ❤️❤️
I loved watching love on the spectrum as my wife and i have ASD and been married 17 yrs
You are so sweet. I like how you say about most of them…”I like him”…:you seem super accepting and sweet
I personally don't mind either but that me but I know from a medical point of view and in the care industries in the UK if they do not use person first language they can risk been done for industrial abuse so as this is a film about a medical subject there could be legal reasons why they have to use that term.
💕💕💕💕Love your videos 💕💕💕💕
Yeh it's true, the media is told to do person first language as that's the preference written in the disability act law on America so probably the case for other countries too. :)
Wow that is so messed up! Hopefully that legislation changes soon!!
I was about to say could you please react to the second season of this series and you did this made my day thank you !😊
the 🌼 daisies falling in the background at around the 1 minute mark is sending me 😂
I don't know why
Okay, but what NOONE seems to be talking about is how incredibly patriarchal and predatory Michael, Kelvin, and Mark are. They seem obsessed with "getting" a girlfriend. They are goal-oriented and not at all love-oriented. And the way Mark talks about "a nice girl", etc. makes me want to puke. Autistic men shouldn't be exempt from being held accountable for their mysogyny.
AND "getting" a girlfriend should NOT be called an accomplishment. It's not a box to check off or an achievement of some sort. Relationships should not be seen in that way no matter how neurodivergent or neurotypical you are.
I know what you mean about Michael but I don’t agree about Mark. He seems to make an effort to figure out the interests of his dates and make them feel good and I don’t think he has any misogynistic notions about women.
Yes, and I was confused on why no one really found this problematic...
@@Beatmyguest001 totally agree
I'll admit I watched the whole show without ever considering the neurotypic perspective or the fact it was probably made for a neurotypical audience. For a serious critique thats extremely relevant but that point of view probably made me enjoy the show a lot more than I would have otherwise. At the same time, while its definitely not the best representation, I feel like its still better than 90% of autistic representation out there, specially since it shows REAL autistic people
i was in film school for 9 months in 2021, i had 2 teachers who were a nightmare for someone like me. their classrooms were built for neurotypical people, i was constantly struggling and was made to feel like i wasnt trying hard enough, that i was just lazy and selfish, i constantly felt like i didnt fit in.
at 6:11 i literally gasped those horns look SO COOL!!!
Love on the spectrum is just how Chloé makes us feel
Thanks for covering this, Chloe!
YES I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!
I had to pause at 1:07 because I don't like spoilers, it affects my adhd a lot ^.^' But I always appreciate your videos as a fellow autie ^.^ Thank you for being a voice to us that is kind and empathetic, rather that infantized. (literally) :)
I agree. I do truely hate how they seem to look at us/consider us comparable to children.
I think you amazing chloe your such a beautiful soul inside n out xxx
Thank you for such a thoughtful review!
snaaaps! can you do a reaction vid for each episode in season 2? ;))))
Great introspective analysis of the show. I will watch the show with your voice as background narrator in my mind. Definitely one of your sparkle talents.
I’m hoping you react to the Good Doctor.
It’s a show about an autistic doctor.
Have you seen Everything's Gonna Be Okay? It has a number of autistic actors who play autistic characters and it would be cool to see your perspective on it! Love your videos Chloe :)
It's a bit like The Elephant Man the dating show (in that it's a bit like a freak show for NTs to watch) but I still like it for showing a diverse range of autistic people.
I didn't have a problem I thought it was a good watch. This coming from an autistic guy that's 18.
I'm also autistic and a big fan of the second season.
i’m watching it rn. i actually rlly like it and Kassandra
the part where she stands talking about her identity was so great 🩷💛💙
Evangeline knows what’s up !😌🐸
I loved watching this alongside you. I really like the people, just not the production at all and some of the accommodations they chose not to follow through on.
Thankyou so much for your support from my son and I we both send you love and light 💛 always 🦄🦄
I believe one problem that I have with this show in particular is that the dating atmosphere for some people on the show is quite uncomfortable for them and it is honestly heartbreaking because the producers behind the show said that they would listen to autistic people and their needs.
Hi! I really enjoyed season 2 way more then one. Cassandra was my favourite to watch to. 💜
There's a good TV series called 'A Kind Of Spark' that recently came out! I'm based in Australia so I watched it on ABC Iview but I think it's also on BBC in the UK. The main three lead actors are all autistic and all the autistic characters and played by autistic actors!!
There are also some really amazing fantasy/mystery elements (ties in with the main characters' special interest!) and it seemed like good autism representation - I would really love to see your review on it! 🧡
I adore Michaels Mum 💚
This is amazing. I know it's become a specialized subject for you, because you've talked about it so much, but the insight and education is packed so tightly here, that this should be an extra on the DVD of Love on the Spectrum.
I have a family members who have autism and when it comes to the likes and dislikes I think it helps people who are not on the spectrum understand autism better. How? Because when you are around them and display or expose them to things they don’t like which causes a negative reaction some people who have never been around someone with autism can be insensitive to their reaction rather than empathize. Also i think it helps the viewer know autism doesn’t exclude that person from having similar dislikes from someone who doesn’t have autism. I can see why some will see the show the way they do but I’m grateful that this show has helped communities be inclusive to men and woman with autism. It’s a step! 🙏🏽
Where can I watch it? I went on Netflix and didn’t find the second season
Might be releasing in different countries on different dates. Hopefully it's available everywhere soon 🙏☺️
@@maisieliberty1319 Is it on Netflix Australia then?
@@artsy_marcypansorry don't know, I'm in the UK, ☺️
ABC iView
I agree with everything you say here!! Its the number 1 reason that I struggle to watch it even though I love all the people on it, the editing and clear neurotypical lense just makes me immensely uncomfortable. I'm glad that they seemed to have improved somewhat, especially with representing relationships between both neurotypical and neurodiverse folks. But I don't think I'll be watching it myself for a while, it still feels a lot like it's made for neurotypical viewers looking in (Which makes me feel yuck lol) and it makes me feel especially weird that when I tell someone I'm autistic one of the first things neurotypicals suggest is that I watch the show, or have I heard of it, alongside all the other movies that show stereotyped representations of being autistic such as the good doctor. I always cringe a bit cause I'm not sure what to say other than those shows are really made more with neurotypicals in mind than autistic people as viewers.
I’m autistic and I literally saw nothing wrong with this.
dude nobody asked / nm when ppl say im [ insert ] and I THINK theres nothing wrong :( its not cool dude
@@toomuchinlove I asked ! I would love to know any autistic people's opinion on this show that is about autism. I personally don't like when people say "nobody asked" because I see it as condescending.
@@toomuchinlove So everyone has to agree with the creator of this video or else they can shut up? No one is right about everything and I vehemently disagree that this show is in any way infantilizing or exploitative. Obviously Chloe's autism is nowhere near as bad as that of some of the cast of the show so of course she sees it as terrible.
good thing not all autistic people are the same and we all have different opinions!
@@katesclub8841 the actual condescending part is acting as if theres nothing wrong with the show bc you personally werent offended, this show was not made originally with autistic people in mind, it was made with neurotypical peoples entertainment in mind. labeling us as an entertainment piece rather than people, they did better season 2. it wasnt necessarily what actually happened in the show as much as it was made to entertain people not actually help autistic people in the slightest at first.
Hey Chloe I love your vids
Would love for you to react to the US version!
anyone else notice that the hanging flowers and leaves with lights decoration fell down a bit at 0:55
I haven’t watched it. I just can’t. These type of shows, that showcase us, make me feel so incredibly uncomfortable. Probably because I then get compared to whoever is on the screen by my parents. I didn’t get a diagnosis until I was 40 and I think the doctor only gave in because I refused to shut up and sit down. My journey started with Aspergirls when my life was beyond rationalising things away. Yes, people have a hard time sometimes but no one else seemed to have the struggles that I have. No one else had to end a day with a family block of Cadbury’s or on bad days, 2+ And having a so-called male professional tell me I wasn’t on the spectrum because I could talk and female was enough to make me see red. So parents if you’re watching this and dithering about sharing your child’s diagnosis with them or not telling them because labels suck, please, please, please don’t make them grow up thinking that they’re broken, useless, worthless failures. You might not want to or be ready to accept the reality but trust me when I say that your beautiful child will know they’re different and then the soul crushing shit happens. Please let them grow with their diagnosis. Let them shine and be who they are! Yes, labels suck when randomly assigned but having a name for what you’re going through makes a huge difference. It was a massive relief when I got mine at 40. I’m still trying to undo all the negative self talk and it’s not easy but at least I can now understand why things are so hard and learn to be kinder. Please tell them. I’d do anything to save precious children from growing up thinking like I did and still do.
Your sweater is so nice
GIRL!!! WHEN IS THE SLEEP ROUTINE & BEDFORT UPDATE VIDEO GOING TO HAPPEN?????? YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO IT ASAP!!!!!! IM STILL WAITING
Great video! Also I love the new branding in the end card 👀
I love your reaction videos
Awesome!!! Thank you for sharing!
Hey, you are so cute. Great personality! Keep up the great videos!
Chloe, I was so happy that there was a Neurotypical Lady dating an Autistic Man:)!! And Sam is a really sweet Guy, with that Lady:)!! I hope that they hit it off and fall in love:)!!! And I so agree with you on the editing to manipulate people's emotions and promoting prejudices to be really nasty. And I think Cassandra is a really sweet Lady and I like that when she was question about "not looking Autistic" she replied, "You can not see my brain":)! I also agree with you that it is very wrong to have their "dislikes" to be about sensory overload or steaming. I think it should be about things like doing you like ballet, swimming, Do you like the ocean or the mountains? Do you like the country or the city? what kind of music do you like?, what kind of books do you read?, what are your hobbies?, what are your morals and values in life?, and do you love animals?, etc. In other words, things anyone would ask anyone they are getting to know!! Chole, thank your reviews and you have taught me so much:)!! You are so awesome:)!!!
You're such a beautiful soul Chloe.
I love your flowers! 🌺
I think most people are afraid to go on the show lol I’d be nervous and I’m typically told I don’t look autistic but I freeze whenever I’m in front of the camera. Hmm 🤔 does anybody else have this problem?
I would do the same thing.
Me too 😅
there wasnt enough reaction to michael's grossly misogynistic actions and words in the first season. everyone just giggled and allowed him to think it was okay
What did he say that was misogynistic? Just asking out of curiosity.
Hi Chloe, I loved the series and I thought that relationship specialist was condescending too!!
Conversations go both ways and I would be uncomfortable if the other person was quiet. Cassandra wasn’t awkward at all tbh I feel the guy she was on the date with was the awkward one
I have no friends in real life, nor here on TH-cam. =(
OvAngeline definitely has a lot to say about the tv series ,says feed me , or says why are getting so triggerd
Good video, my friend. Continue on your road on getting the silver play button along with interviewing with Chris ULMER of SBSK
Hi, I have only just found your channel and only just this week watched Love on the Spectrum (both seasons). Thank you for this balanced, fair and insightful review (you cram a lot of content into your video!) I totally agree with all the points you make. Season 2 is definitely an improvement on Season 1 but still uncomfortable watching at times. I really don't know what to make of the coach Jodie...the way she speaks to contestants as though they are young children REALLY winds me up and why is she hell bent on teaching NT norms to ND people, especially when the programme mostly only pairs participants with other autistic people?! Seems bizarre to me! Quite a few mentions of functioning labels which I don't agree with, but I guess if that's how an autistic person identifies or the specifics of their diagnosis (even though the diagnostic criteria has changed and diagnoses are now not functioning specific) then they will use that kind of language. Sending thanks, respect and big smiles from the UK.
I would be an target for self- pity and being patronised in this show as an Autistic person. Cause when I'm incredibly nervous and always am in new surroundings and on camera, I stumble on words an lot of times.....
Sometimes even in the first couple of sentences before I get going 💕 I'm also developmentally- delayed an condition overlapping with myself being Autistic
Sometimes I wish I could have you telling me how to not be ableist as I go about my day to day life.
Youre so cool i wish I had your energy
I see where you are coming from. The fact that this dating coach is treating dating as a second language. She does the role playing type in thing. This in my eyes is Ok. I did abit with my children where one has or not. I think that it helps with the anxiety part though, it might seem robotic.
I also think that, if they show the worst part, then when they do come up in real life we might be more understanding and less uncomfortable. 🤔
Some friends tried to get me to watch it but i am hesitant and what you said about the 1st season is 100% why and well never been into "reality" show
As an autistic person I can't bring myself to watch this show because it comes across so condescending! I had a family member explain it to me and they found the show endearing, which to me immediately rang alarm bells that it infantilises autistic people.
The use of a dating coach in this show especially doesn't sit right with me. While I've had help from my psychologist in the past to learn scripts and how to fit in to make some interactions more comfortable, I think showing this contributes to autistic masking and sends the message that we need to act neurotypical to have relationships and to fit in. It reinforces the message to neurotypical people that there's something wrong with us and that we don't have empathy- many of us do, but just show it differently. It allows them to look down on us and continue expecting us to fit in with them rather than making the effort to fit in with us.
Many autistic people have stressful dating experiences and many of us experience abuse in relationships. If they want to include a dating coach, they could show someone educating an autistic person on what they deserve in a relationship, what healthy communication looks like (eg communicating when you need space/support, dealing with conflict), how to balance your needs while dating (eg comfortable settings, time limits etc to avoid sensory triggers & meltdown/shutdowns).
Definitely , there is no need for a dating coach if they are going out for a date with autistic people , they understand each other and they don't need to mask unlike being around NT people. I am not autistic , but deaf . I told this to a AUSLAN interpreter at TAFE because she had a neurodiverse son half her age , and told her about the show
Where did you get season 2, I just looked at netflix and there's no season 2
It’s playing on ABC at the moment (Australian, not American) and you can catch up on ABC iView I’m pretty sure 🤍
I have been working with Autistic people for years and I thought it was great and not contrived. You can't cherry pick. Dating and relationships are difficult for most people in this community. Their are so many different types. You can't speak for them simply because you have Autism. You can't cover every nuance.
" if you met one person with Autism...you have met one person with Autism"
That fact that you use person first language shows your understanding of the autistic community. It demonstrates that working with autistic people for years doesn’t give you a basic understanding.
@@Daz-ov7co yeah that's it. Think nothing of the fact that I've worked with dozens of people over the years with great success. Their familes love the progress I've made, but you will summarize this based on a linguistic prescription.
@@FireinTheBowl Would it be professional and something you are proud to stand behind, speaking to one of your autistic clients this way? Would this count as talking over or silencing an autistic voice?
You have told the OP that she can’t speak for all autistic people and have positioned yourself as gate keeper because you have worked with autistic people. You have further supported your argument by stating the “families” are happy with the progress that you are attributing to your work. You did not centre the autistic person in that measure of your success. And you have attributed that success to your work rather than the autistic person, their family or anyone else involved.
And you are happy to position yourself as more valid or knowledgeable than me without knowing anything about me at all. I’m another autistic voice you are comfortable to speak over as an allistic person.
I didn't see it that way at all. It is people who happen to have autism looking for love.
Also an opportunity to learn more about ASD as I have two young grandchildren on the spectrum.
How about a positive attitude?
I didn't see anyone being made fun of.
Is it on Irish Netflix yet??
Nothing has been announced yet.
@@AdrianColley thank you!
Use a VPN to access international Netflix.
I don't know if Kass got in contact with you, but Im making sure she watches this.
Chloe where did u watch it I cant find season 2 on netflix, not watchomg some of your video yet till I see season 2. O always love the flower crowns on you. Im Autistic to
Wait is it out already?
I checked on Netflix today and season 2 wasn’t even there I’m from Canada by the way
you are so beautiful 😍
Are look like the actress from heatbeak high Australian netflix series
Oh my God you are Chloe Hayden ahah omg hey girl you my favorite in the whole show
i hate the stereotypes with autism i had people say i dont have it because i am not a super computer with maths and well you dont look Autistic it really sucks i blame movies for that
Cholesterol! You look and act SOOOOO much like Ava from an Australian show called the inbestigators (Its a children's show on Netflix, but you have a VERY similar personality!)
FYI the intro music with the beeping drove me mad. Love this vid tho!
Are you watching it on Netflix? I have Netflix and I see only season 1...? :/
I like love on the spectrum. I didn’t find anything offensive, but that is just me.