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- Reacting to “Why I still use Windows 7 in 2020...”. A look back on my reasons why I stayed on Windows 7 after its end of support in 2020, and how my opinions have changed over time.
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Windows 7 is still the last OS which felt like it was for a PC
Yeah, that OS still give you almost full access through the system settings. In Windows 7 you can switch between automatic and manual update mode in control panel, not like Windows 10 and later which only let you pause automatic updates for up to 5 weeks
@@sihamhamda47 yea man those update settings sucks
Agreed.
windows 11 comes back to that spot
yeah.
Windows 7 was the last windows version that was actually good
Go to the Future
i’d say 8.1 with mods like start menu
@@nitroseven is that.. you? Windows 7?
@@Thischannelisalreadyclosed nah just my cover art. my favorite startup
@@nitroseven Cool ok But also I the like the windows 7 and windows 8.1 start
Windows 7 really has the most consistent UI. Look at the blending between Windows 11, 10 and 7 in Windows 11 now
The Mica (?) design language of Win11 is somewhat reminiscent of the Aero UI from Windows 7/Vista.
@TV I think they meant the amount of mismatched software (ie; windows 11 explorer, windows 10 photos, and windows 7 control panel) in windoes 11.
@@xythrr All of these were redesigned for Windows 11.
@@tvthecat laughs in control panel.
@@apefish Visual elements have changed. There's no reason to change the control panel as there's nothing new that can be added and be worthwhile.
I'm still using windows 7, I can't overlook the beauty, simplicity, comfortable ui and privacy that is Windows 7.
Privacy lol
@@MrBsvc its got more stock privacy then windows 8, 10 and 11.
when you have less spyware, blotware, and adware.. of course your going to have more privacy.
that's why people have been making custom scripts, isos, regedits, and instructional's on how to delete, turn off, and stop the spying that microsoft has been installing in versions 8,10 and 11.
if everything that made windows 7 grate was the template for the last windows version, to receive the endless security update support, it would have been marvelous. but microsoft had to be jerks and shit in out bowl of cheerios with there new infection we call spyware, blotware and adware.
@@jimbolove5669 And keep it, cause older games need win 7, win 8 already you not gonna run at least some if not many older games.
@@Dragon-mv6vy keeping it i have been and will continue, as I've already ran into that problem when i installed a Windows 10 for my brother and tryed to play one of our old but favorite games on it, the game did not want to work no matter what compatibility setting i adjusted. I was like, well ain't that a kick in the head.
same here!
When it comes to Microsoft and releasing software, its fairly easy to notice that they seem to have this period of a few years where (say for example 10 and 11) just feel like a beta release more than a public release, and it takes them years to actually get around to releasing the feature updates that finally patch out the bugs. initially I had hated 10, and it had already been broken right as I updated on Day 1 causing me to revert in an hour, but I've been using LTSC now for the last 5 years (which isn't really meant for the consumer) but it works for me how its intended, and gives you no bloat and as much of a 7/8.1 Experience as it can bring.
What is LTSC
@@FirstnameLastname-we6dh Nah there's a different version that isn't for IoT devices but more like hospital computers, but either way literally nothing changes between them but the key
Can you tell how you activated LTSC?
@@ProGamusian is basically like LTS (Long-Time Support) just with a different name (LTSC = Long Term Servicing Channel)
@@sifatullah7568 you can buy them, but it is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE, there is another method which im not gonna tell for reasons
that was 2 years ago already? man time flies…
indeed
I’m sad… but happy at the same time since 2020 is now over
@@XMANIAFLYYY 😪🤔
Yup
@@XMANIAFLYYY 2020 was honestly one of the best years for me.
Something about Windows nowadays, it’s something that people can tolerate upgrading to, rather than crave.
Back then with Windows XP, when Vista was widely hated due to its high system requirements which made everyone stay back on XP. When Windows 7 came out, a lot of people craved to upgrading in my eyes including myself and hence, the OS was praised for (insert things Microsoft fixed).
Yes.
I skipped over Vista entirely and didn't upgrade until Windows 7, because for me there was no real reason to upgrade. Windows XP continued to do what I wanted it to do just fine, but the RAM limitations of running a 32-bit OS is what ultimately pushed me into upgrading to 7. I downgraded to 10 because Microsoft decided it was time.
I agree. Windows XP and 7 was Microsoft's best designed operating system on desktop PC IMO. I still do not like the UI of Windows 8, 10, or even 11. Since they all try to accomodate both the desktop PC and tablet, which reflects in their poorly designed UI. Windows 7 had a lot more compact UI that was fit for a desktop PC and made sense in such environment. These days, I find modern Windows OS not intuitive enough to use and would rather use macOS instead.
The problem though is, even Apple is going down the similar path in trying to merge the UI of the OS so that you get seamless transition from tablet to PC. This came at the cost of later version of macOS (especially after Big Sur) having more spaced out traffic light buttons which doesn't look good and feels like a waste of space when using desktop PC. Even their menubar looks worse now. But macOS's degradation isn't as horrible compared to the drastic change Windows had gone through, especially from windows 7 to windows 8/10/11. So overall to me at this point, it's about picking the lesser of two evils when it comes to using modern OS that's less well designed for desktop PC. And macOS for me is the preferred option.
For gaming though, you obviously still need to use Windows OS, which brings up another irony. Windows 7 was considered by many to have been the best operating system for gaming. Since with windows 7, you were able to easily turn off windows desktop composition which lead to lower input lag for your mice. This is impossible to do with later version of windows. So the only good thing about newer version of windows is their hardware compatibility. But the input lag latency just doesn't match compared to windows 7.
Interesting how you brought up macOS's because the transition looked so seamless (I don't use macOS, but I still try to stay up to date on what's going on) that I don't see many people go controversial mode like people did from Windows 7 to 8.1. Although some people don't like it when Apple plays it safe and being "late to the game", we can clearly see that the approach is causing them less problems.
@@TrigrZolt I like how you mentioned about the apple transition being seamless, But I don't like how didn't mention about the Bot that's LITERALLY Above your reply
@@Theawesomesonic For some reason I didn't see it when I was replying. Thanks for letting me know, I took care of it.
@@TrigrZolt you're welcome :)
Here's a solution: just block him, not only it will prevent him from typing on your channel, but it will also delete all of his comments, trust me it works
@@TrigrZolt Btw Hi TrigrZolt
Yes, another TrigrZ video! Can’t wait to watch it!
As for the files were randomly deleted, yeah this happened to me once. I was on an old machine I used like once every 6 months. I opened it up to get some old pictures, they weren't there, so I thought I was remembering incorrectly and that they were on my dad's laptop.Like about 6 months later, I update windows on that machine and suddenly all my files were just suddenly back
I’m still using Windows 8.1 on my pc from 2014 and it’s been solid ever since. I’ve barely run into any issues with programs not opening, except from the occasional crashing and long loading times that I fixed just by upgrading my ram and changing to an ssd. Other than that it’s been great for me ever since and one of the best OS’s that Microsoft has ever released. Windows 7 is still a better choice but windows 8.1 isn’t too far off. It’s definitely up there with Windows 7 for sure. I use Windows 10 on my Dell XPS 15 and I have no plans to update to Windows 11 whatsoever. Even though my device is compatible, I just feel it’s a huge downgrade from Windows 10 overall, I just don’t like it in general and will stay with Windows 10 till 2025 and maybe even further. Sure I’ll be at risk with security updates but would you rather have an OS that doesn’t function properly and completely makes your system feel unusable and slow with so many glitches or the previous version that feels like a solid rock maybe not as secure that performs as intended. I know what I’d rather want.
I really feel Microsoft and all these other companies like Apple have kind of lost their touch when it comes to releasing solid and stable software on launch; instead of pushing out something that appears to be in beta and needs a ton of QOL updates to make it feel like what it should’ve been on day 1. Great video Trigr I really had fun reliving my nostalgia remembering how much I used Windows 7 and 8.1 🤩
I agree with this I used to use one of those 8.1 before my mom forced us to upgrade Windows 10 so when I get my computer I'm still going to use 8.1 even if it is unsupported by Microsoft
Me too I’m 7 user
@@Chugga0921 How a mom forces to upgrade to Windows 10🤨
WIN11is really just WIN10 with a shiny new interface.
@@thomaseliason8376 Windows 11 is shit.
I remember watching that video two years ago and nothing else on this channel lol, maybe I'll check things out later. I'm still on Windows 7 because I'm on a 2012 laptop with a mechanical drive. I have it dual booted with Windows 10, bit 10 chugs on it so much. I plan to upgrade to an SSD to hopefully get 10 working on it before the ESU program ends and I stop getting updates for 7. It really is an amazing OS, Windows 7, but eventually it is time to move on to a modern experience (which 10 is about to not be when it ends support in 3 years lmao). As for the start menu, I use OpenShell to use the 7 menu on 10.
Great video, thanks for the update on the video I watched back in 2020!
you can always keep it as a secondary system, for older softwares or games, or just for the sake of good memories.
@@Dragon-mv6vy I actually got an SSD for my laptop in October 2022, and now I have it triple booted with Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10. I love booting into 7 once in a while still for the sake of nostalgia and older software.
Aero Glass is what I miss most about Windows 7. I wish they'd bring it back tbh.
Yaa man, I wish it too, becuz Windows 7 is my favorite OS even today
I couldn't agree more.
I think so too, but I think the Aero design of the Windows 8 desktop app is a bit more modern (modern does not automatically mean it's beautiful)
When it comes to Microsoft hearing other people's opinion , they just go blank completely blank , Windows 7 probably has the best UI and is pretty fast and now looking at 10 and 11 , 7 is still OP and to mention it gives you no bloat and is consistent and doesn't force you with updates... (P.S help me reach 10 likes on this comment teehee)
I'm really used to Windows 10, with the live tiles, emoji support, etc. I don't even want to downgrade to Windows 7 even though Windows 10 has a lot of inconsistensies (sorry if this had bad spelling lol) e.g. very old icons, duplication of applications, charms still being in Windows 10, etc.)
@TheInsane101 Well, to get them in Windows 10, you have to enable Safe Mode then press Windows key + P. If done correctly, it will show a charm menu saying that your PC cannot present.
same here, i just don't give a shit about most problems with windows 10 with the current version.
TrigrZolt, please make a new video. It has been over a year.
this is his last video 😢
I switched to Linux after 10, and hopped several distros before I went with Xubuntu on my main machine. I use Debian Sid (originally Debian Bookworm, which is the latest stable release,) on an older machine of mine, and it runs very well on its limited hardware (a Dell Latitude D630 with 2 GB of DDR2 RAM.) I used to be very against Linux, as I trashed it for being an OS only used by nerds, geeks, and hackers, but I gave in and installed it anyway.
I was kinda dirstro hopping and settled in arch linux for now, and it is pretty much stable on my powerfull pc.
I love windows 7, any files that I want to remain secure I encrypt them using the installed encryption feature. Then there is the Windows Media Center, This is one reason I keep my windows 7 large screen HP laptop, For movies and videos. I am still getting security updates as of Dec 29th, 2022 using Microsoft Security Essentials. I guess that however is about to end very soon. I have never been hacked to this date. If I ever do decide to retire my windows 7 Ultimate laptop, I will use it as a media center. Thank you for your video.
7:05 Considering also that recent rumours suggest that MS is moving back to a traditional three year release schedule for major Windows releases and the period between the two builds would be spanned by shipping features to the stable build of Win 11 22H2 through regular cumulative updates called „Moments“ (of which 2 already released)
and the fact it‘s possible in the first place because they decoupled parts of the interface and components from the actual OS, so they can be modified independently w/o requiring a full build upgrade
I see it as a much much needed improvement to previous update servicing scheme
I still use 7 in 2022! I have a secondary partition with 10, but use 7 as my main one, and it's even faster than my 10 one
1. Not too long ago I tried for the 6th time to install Windows 7 on my PC since October 2020 but it just didn't work because AMD CPUs made the task 10x more complicated, so I was instead stuck with Windows 11 22H2, which is not that bad..
2. Glad you're reacting to your old video to kind of "update" it, to give your own opinion and change some things because they have changed over the years.
3. Oh my gosh you've grown up a lot! Your face really changed compared to 2020, and I'm glad you're changing! (Not on the bad side ofc)
*Windows 11 21H2
@@LOLY20 No, Windows 11 22H2. It's already available in the Insider Preview.
@@Nutzey I talking about stable
@@LOLY20 Yes, and my comment was talking about the Beta version..
@@Nutzey Ok sorry
Finally we got an update on this!
R.I.P Trigr Zolt (2016-2022)
He uploaded a video
No more R.I.P! OK?
It’s been a single year since Windows 8.1's support ended and 4 years since 7's. I actually have a video on the 8.1 EOL and it released the day this happened.
As someone who did IT support in the Windows Vista/7 era, I frankly do not miss that OS from a sysadmin perspective. Yes, 7 fixed a ton of issues with Vista and was a solid user experience, but it was still an iteration of Vista under the hood. Everything from installing updates/apps, driver issues, even doing netboot deployments was like pulling teeth when things didn't work. Times that by 50 workstations in an office and my frustration only grew. Windows 8/10 had a ton of nice under-the-hood improvements that made it much easier to deploy, maintain and is more widely supported on newer machines.
I find it pretty ironic how the later versions of Windows improved in functionality but regressed in the overall user experience department. Although my belief is that an OS is an utilitarian tool that shouldn't be bloated with flashy UIs and unnecessary software to begin with, I can acknowledge that Aero is still gorgeous looking. Aero was also known for consuming a ton of resources to run, especially on older hardware of the time, and I've always seen it as unnecessary bloat. That's why I rmuch prefer the minimalist design of Windows 10 and recent MacOS revisions. Less distractions, less bloat.
The only reason Microsoft keeps including the legacy versions of said apps is for backwards compatibility reasons. Since a lot of their corporate clients spent millions on making hand-coded software using Microsoft's garbage proprietary solutions, Microsoft essentially painted themselves into a corner when those corporate clients couldn't realistically replace those software solutions when support ended. That's why Windows still has remnants of Windows NT deep in the kernel, and also a ton of baked-in legacy apps that nobody else realistically uses anymore. It's for those megacorp clients who have no choice but to keep relying on deprecated software. Apparently Windows 11 is a departure from all this, their first attempt to re-make Windows from scratch, which is why it seems like that OS has taken several steps back in functionality and usability.
(The legacy apps can at least be updated in a basic level without breaking any compatibility whatsoever. E.g.: a really finished msstyle, dark mode (optional), new icons, at least Segoe UI in dialogs. All of those things which are just resource changes are all absent in 11, yet are the easiest things to do.)
A common misconception is that Windows 8 and later versions have a faster UI compared to Vista/7's Aero, but in reality, it relies on the same dwm.exe component introduced with Aero. One of the benefits of Aero was that it offloaded UI rendering onto the GPU which freed up CPU time, so this actually isn't bad at all. The difference is that Windows 7/Vista would only enable Aero if your graphics hardware was sufficient. With the removal of Classic theme in versions after 7, there is no way to revert to running the UI without dwm.exe without extensive modification. On the flip side, graphics hardware is much improved than it was in 2009, but it is still an unfortunate removal.
this is trigerzolt last video
yh😢
good news he’s back
wow i have stuck around for this long already? no regrets this is great
ive seen this , when i was slept in my room and chilling with youtube w, i saw notification , i think that was last time i saw notification from this channel
In my current situation I'm basically forced on Windows 10. I have to use 10 for my Steam games, and college work. Maybe there's a patch that allows Windows 7 to run the newest apps and on the newest hardware that are only compatible with Windows 10
I remember back in the day i used Windows 10, my computer randomly updated while I was in a game, and it randomly reinstalled itself making me loose all of my files
Congrats on the 52k subscribers! 😃
We all missed windows 7 after we moved to windows 10 or 11!
Around 2017/18 I had to get a new laptop due to my older one just kicking the bucket, got a cheap HP one, came with windows 10, tried to install windows 7 because 82mb of vram is not the best thing ever on windows 10, it just wasn't compatible with my hardware, in 2017/18, as an alternative I been runing Linux Mint on a dual boot alongside windows 10 to get used to it because I knew that w10 just wasn't gonna get any lighter and I'll had to keep using this machine for a few too many years.
2020 comes around, I don't know what did microsoft break but w10 would just break/insta freeze with a weird screen tearing, my old install broke, if I tried to install it again with a fresh drive it would do the same and just die after boot leaving my laptop frozen and the screen weird, running it in a vm would also crash my system, they did fixed it like a year later, but by that point I had been using linux for a while, tried to go back but I was still using a 1tb hdd, it ran everything just fine, never had many issues, W7 and 8.1 would run pretty good with not a lot of "slowness", just like in Linux, but windows 10, that thing dragged my hdd through the dirt like a little bitch, I was so bad it corrupted its own install, it was probably the windows antivirus which was using 100% of cpu and disk, but that alongside locking me out for ours for "safety" because I rebooted "way too much".
I dream for the Windows 7 source code to get one day leaked so we get somewhat opensource W7 systems, hell, I'll take Vista, I loved that ui, but fuck, my pc that came with w10 just can't handle it, not a bit.
I'm not screaming "LINUX IS BETTER" or "WINDOWS SUCKS" like other Linux users, but hey, why not try using Linux for a week just for a change? I tried this and here I am, recommending people all around me to daily drive Linux. I know, Windows has it's own perks, butthe only gripes I felt on Linux were lack of native support for Office and some gaming, and yeah, I did try WINE (Windows compatibility layer for Linux) and it worked fine. I used Linux Mint Cinnamon and themed it to look like Windows XP, and also downloaded 3D Pinball and played it using WINE. Just try Linux, I don't mean Mint specifically, but Mint is great, especially if you want to theme it like any other OS, say Windows 7. It also has great stability. I kinda feel sad as now I must stick to WIndows as for some weird reason my old PCs HDD is about to die and it doens't allow me to install Linux... Give it a shot bro. You could even make a series on it like "Windows user tries Linux for a week". Just saying, ignore if you seriously rely on some other feature Windows has.
Pirate ESU on Windows 7 / 8.1 and 10
My dad still uses Windows XP on a Core 2 Duo e8400, 4GB ram and gt 730. My dad uses Office 2003 for typing, Mypal 68, and Chrome 100 (I just installed it for him) to surf the web. Use VLC, and MPC to watch videos and listen to music. He has no complaints about using an old operating system.
August 24, 2022 1:45PM
For basic web browsing, it still works fine, but most programs will need you to install old versions. Mypal 68 was unstable for me, so I use mostly the old pale moon based one.
I wonder how you got Chrome 100 installed
Yeah I recently moved back to windows 10 from 11, I would use Windows 7 or 8.1 but even things down to drivers for my motherboard or some software doesn't work with anything older or is a pain to get working on older.
I think you should make a video of making Windows 10/11 as close to Windows 7 as possible like Start Menu, Themes, Windows Aero and more.
As we get longer from 7’s End of Support, compatibility and others will get worse like Games and basic apps like Chrome.
Important: Chrome is extending support for Windows 7 through January 15, 2023 for critical security and stability updates.
While it is actually possible to do this with Windows 8(&8.1) (to the point it looks completely identical and yet, still native), Windows 10 removed a ton of stuff from their classic apps, replacing it with UWP apps like Settings, Photos, Taskbar and its fly outs like sound and network (which are all based off UWP now). There are also thousands of 3rd party UWP apps. The thing with UWP is that there’s no way you can customise it without breaking it.
@@aRandomPersonOfTheInternet There are some ways to get some classic apps back but you’d be right on that regard. However, personally I would prefer function over form having compatibility and support rather than an og control panel and others. I honestly get it, Windows 7 was amazing and is the gold standard in my opinion.
@@aRandomPersonOfTheInternet That uwp shit is truly made rather for phones than for desktop, and the ui is much more similar to andriod style flat color apps... The actual creation process of the ui is also horrible, i make sometimes programs for my use, and from what i know uwp, maui apps etc they all don't fu** have a civilized drag & drop option, there's no visual editor where you simply can drop the widgets rather you have to code it, specify the height and the posiution and than see in preview how it looks which is horrible considering that in a visual editor you just drop the widget where you want and that's it, it much resembles a more clunky html, it's truly weird... This was at least for c#, but i assume other languages have same problem, luckily still you can make normal cross-platform apps in freamworks like qt or so, it was a damn weird thing what they did, it's like buying a car with no seats inside...
im still using 8.1 with classic shell and im not worried about security
hello trigrzolt I just wanted to ask if you could make some video about this "windows 10 to 7 iso mod"? it looks really cool, nice video btw
I feel sorry for those who are still using Windows 8.1 in 2022 and can't play their GameCube and Wii games anymore. Fortunately however, I personally still plan to support my programs which are still regularly updated on Windows 8.1 (and its server counterpart) until at least February 2023. I even have a Java application which runs on Java 11 (and therefore on Windows 7, although that was basically enforced). :D
I use Windows 10 but when I actually get my own computer I'm switching to Windows 8.1 cuz my opinion that's the best operating system and even if it is unsupported I'm still going to use it because my favorite operating system
It’s like Millennium, it’s hybrid junk…
7 and XP are wonderful operating systems, and are still perfectly usable for most tasks. The only thing I wouldn't do on either is banking/commerce... although certain sites like eBay are designed so you don't need to constantly enter card numbers or other sensitive data and are therefore plenty secure. If you're not downloading a bunch of crap - and especially porn - then you're going to be just fine using either one.
Facts. If you know how to use a computer, there is nothing to worry about
Don't worry about po%n , XP is like our grandfather, it will show Error !
@@DeepakJAT0007 - I use XP almost every day. I have wonderful old-school photo, music and video editing programs from the early 2000s that work great and are very easy to use. I can also plink around on the internet while rendering, or to grab images I need Works great *and* it's less filling !
@@thomaseliason8376 I didn't doubted it's abilities at all, it's king.
@@DeepakJAT0007 - Cool. I forgot to add, both my DJ and Karaoke laptops run XP. Both have been absolutely 100% rock-solid reliable, while I see other DJs using WIN10 with jitter and even BSoD !
Hello, I love your channel and your videos!
Great video!
windows 7 is still my favorite OS by far.
it was cleaner and more accessible in every way i needed it to be.
its a literal benchmark for when corporate strategy shifted into the pump and dump meta.
like what happened at blizzard and the hijacking of legacy media and technofascist social media companies like old twitter and facebook, you can trace the actual beginnings of the neoauthoritarianism to the inept and malicious practices of large companies and their products, like microsoft with windows.
they are giving you what they want, not what you want. and windows 7 was the last vestiges of consumer driven marketing.
they want you to take what they give you and not ask questions or scrutinize whatsoever. they literally censor dissent. thats the hallmark of a coordinated effort between money and power structures.
hollywood, video game industry, all social media, all legacy media, and of course the institutions like schools and universities, eventually sprouting into congress itself, and all the way up the line.
the 'new normal' is something to be opposed.
we need to ensure that these companies who are making products for consumers get back to tailoring their products and direction to consumers, and not to shareholders and elite interests, and certainly not to a govt sponsored deranged cult of neofascist extremist liars.
im not naive, i understand how the world works. i also understand it starts by making a stand. this got this bad bc everyone sat quietly and did not raise a fuss. bc they were scared bc they saw what happens to anyone who did, the mob attacks and villifies them.
well the mob has been wrong about everything. covid tyranny and all the lying and censorship and authoritariansim the left has platformed are the face of the beast, we've been smelling its stench and feeling its stare up until now.
its time to stand up together, leave the falling apart to the weak.
your a real one ;)
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I'll stick with windows 7 on my current device since it's quite an old device (though it is very functional). If I get a new system I might use a newer os but I still find windows 7 to be the most user friendly.
@@enesmalikinan4269 bummer. I'll stick with old versions then. I'd rather use an OS that is better fit to my system.
Nice to see this guy's face after 2 years
In my opinion when the Windows 7 OS support ended I was sad and I didn't even have a PC or laptop at that time, Windows 7 is my favorite OS even today cuz I used it when I had my PC updated to Windows 7 in 2011 and the last one in 2014 in which my PC was screwed up
I have had no problems with my W7 ended support. But, I only have I4 and I7 laptops and an I7 desktop for personal, non gaming use.
I don't think I'll be going back to Windows 7 any longer because the lack of compability it has now that it had ended support, I've gotten used to Windows 10 since then, it had improved over the years, I had not much experienced any issues regardless of the inconsistencies it still has, I don't feel like upgrading nor downgrading to any OS although Windows 8.1 is a good OS but it will not be long before it's EOL in 2023.
It's a matter of what you use. I use 7, because it has better compatibility. By that I mean the old games' support
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me: uses Linux and at the sidelines, watches the war between win 10 and win 7
I'm on 7 still in 2023 largely because the software I use wouldn't improve if I changed the OS. I know if I wanted anything new from here on, I might as well jump to 11.
But I have a second system (Lenovo laptop) as a backup with 10 that I've gotten used to, but still not in a hurry to make everything cohesive.
But there is a time limit, not software; I built my system from components Oct 2016 with parts that debuted a year prior because the next generation made them cheaper. I've never had a computer run this long before so I've been mulling over an upgrade for a while. Recently a Chrome banner appeared on the startup that they will cease further updates unless I update the OS. Same thing on MS Office 2010.
In Linux we call it desktop environment, yes you can choose how your desktop functions, look up cinnamon desktop environment and MATE
Win 7 is simply a superior, and last true desktop O/S. The true purpose of an O/S is to simply connect *your* apps to your hardware, nothing more. My desktop is not a phone. I don't need or want all of the crap M$ preloads on it. I don't want live tiles, real time weather, news, Xbox, and various superfluous apps. And I've never had to reset Chrome as my default browser.
Yes your desktop is a phone (says Microsoft)
i love windows 7 i use it now😄
sadly it isnt secure anymore. if you had software updates then youd be okay, but apps like chrome have stopped updates
@@Veroxitynah man all you need is some anti-virus and a functioning brain it can still be used safely
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sorry my brother did that
I use window 8.1 10 and 11 every day and I still feel that windows 7 done some things better
Its 2023 and I am staying with 7 far into the future
welp lets see how long you will last i be sticking with my nice windows 11
I love Windows 7 it's easier and I still, get that message to update.. To keep my Windows 7, when it asks to Update, all I do and probably with 8, just Click on "Remind Me Later" option.. I've been doing this for years. I did look into Windows 10 and I just do not like the start up and it's complicated setup.. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad with Windows 10 and I would like to install Window 7 instead.. Do you have a video on how to do that? A friend of mine found the Lenovo in a dumpster and it wasn't working.. So me with no skills got it working.. He mocked me when I said, I'll try to fix it.. and fixed another lap as well as his 10 year old Window 7 desktop that he lent me, which stopped working.. Told me to just buy a new one, again stated I will try to repair it.. and I did. Learn to fix things from my mother, she said, "people are too quick to replace a device, without even trying to repair, which in a lot of cases, it just needs cleaning, tiny repair or a replacement part." Thank you mom!
true, sadly windows 7 is more diffficult to run on newer hardware, i would 100% reccomend it on a computer that came with it or had vista and it's at least 9 years old
Pirate ESU
You see the issues with Window 10, so why change from 7, which WORKS for me, to a 10 and even an 11? Window 7 never upgraded itself, it gives me and still does, to Upgrade which is available by Clicking "Learn More" or "Remind Me Later" and another option, "Don't Remind Me Again"
Isn't it embarrassing by the fact that he took a whole year to complete 10K subs? He completed 50K a year ago and he's finally at 60K.
Oh yea also for the offline account thing in setup when you see connect to the internet just click you don’t have an internet connection and you can create an offline account and after connect to YOURE internet after setup when you’re all done. That’s the bypass to an offline account
7 > 10 > 11 period
hi there trigrz i use windows 7 aswell and i dont wanna switch until chrome and steam stops supporting it
As far as I know, Chrome will drop support for 7, 8, and 8.1 on January 15, 2023. If you use Firefox, you should be good for way longer!
Firefox recently launched ESR, so now we only have security updates from Firefox
Entering into 2024:
I still use Windows 7 (SP1)
The US military still use Windows XP
Most ATMs still use Windows XP
Half of the PCs in Armenia are still on Windows XP
Computers in industrial settings are mostly run on XP, 2000, 98, 95 or even DOS
The workplace where my sister works has a PC on Windows 98
Im using Windows 10
bro ended giving up
Will you do a windows xp vs windows vista vs windows 7 vs windows 8.1 vs windows 10 again with windows 11?
I would try window 7 again, except for the fact that all the hardware that I have is not even remotely supported on that old firmware
0:04 bro said: :))))))))
Eventually we may need to shift to w10. While definitely missing the wxp, w7, w8.1.
W11 is no way near to these ones ryt now.
May be I'll use mac rather than w11 when the time comes for updated hardware...
Ibuntu and Linux the same? I don't remember.
Quick question Trigr z What os are u using now? Are you still using Windows 7 or did u upgrade to Windows 10? As far as I know, most programs have finally ended support for Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
Is W10 an upgrade? How much do you trust MS with your computer?
im an og viewer of your channel and it's nice to see you back then when your voice sounded like an 11 year old, and now to the point point where you have a full beard
he still has a young voice, just very old looks
@@j3lly_m3lly yeah
Win7 was a really good system, but it might be time to shitcan the “status quo” and make Linux the happening OS… heck, it’s worldwide as well
Yep. If my W7 crashes, looks better than W10 or W11.
When 10 first came out, it SUCKED, it had terrible UI, Was unstable as hell and it was very complicated to use, at that i 100% saw windows 7 as the superior OS. Now windows 10 is almost near perfected to me atleast, especially the Ltsc version with no telemetry or bloatware, things have moved around in 10 to be easier and i dont get force updates anymore (and i havent gotten a prompt to update 10 for nearly a year now) overall id say there isnt a huge gap between 7 and 10, i still love 7, have no issues with it either but now programs are quickly removing support for it, its sometimes a bit annoying to use something else or find an older version
if you havent got promot to update, window is probably just sliently updating on ur pc
@@mearetom no, ltsc doesnt update at all but even then i also disabled updates in the system
@@mearetom yeah man I spied the monster many times, everything was paused & registry edited but it the devil was churning 1MB/s silently in idle !
Pirate ESU
@@WololoWololo2 ?
Are you still gonna upload that windows 8.1 reaction video?
I will use Windows 7 until the day my PC dies. I use it as an offline work PC and there is no reason for me to update it. It's worked great since 2009 and still does to this day.
Pleassse make a new vid
I use GNU/Linux as daily driver. Windows 7 would be great if there would be GPT, UEFI and WSL. BIOS and MBR are dead and WSL is very nice feature
UEFI is a complementary BIOS upgrade and has nothing to do with the operating system.
@@FlyboyHelosim Well, new systems don't support BIOS boot mode and Windows 7 does not support UEFI and GPT
Windows developer (not me) who don't have access to WSL can have mental issues (kinda joke but you get the point)
@@andrejbartulin Dude, UEFI is not OS dependent and GPT support has been there in some form since Windows XP. All the UEFI really does is provide a graphical interface for BIOS settings (although not all cases). Of course Windows 7 supports GPT, I'm using drives over 2Tb on it. It's also not cool to 'like' your own comments.
@@FlyboyHelosim You can install it but it is little harder and using Windows 7 in 2022 is not the best choice because lot of apps like Electron dropped Windows 7 suppprt so newer VS Code don't work anymore on Windows 7,
Trigr, where are you! This video was released almost 1 year ago! And it's your latest video!
The first os i ever used is windows 7 and im still using it in 2022
For anyone who wonders why he doesn't use Linux cause it lacks software. Yes you can install wine but it's extra work. Plus he has programs which don't support wine.
ok is TrigrZolt ok cuz this is his lastest video an it was 7 months ago?????
What the heck! You really look different compared to before!
You uploaded finnaly
Bro its over a year since you last uploaded. Please upload more
i konw
In some ways I wish I was still using 7 as my primary OS, simply because I despise the direction that Microsoft is going in. They are way too controlling over what the user can do with their system and getting worse by the day, not to mention the massive amounts of telemetry Windows 10 gathers. Frankly speaking, I don't find Windows 10 to be more secure than Windows 7 because I don't see Microsoft as any more trustworthy than some random hacker. Sure, maybe Microsoft won't start making fraudulent charges to your bank account but they are still selling your private data to whomever their partners are. I also despise this forced internet integration Microsoft is pushing. I passed on getting certain games I was looking at because of shenanigans like this and I'm definitely not interested for my operating system. I absolutely do *not* like the idea that Microsoft can just flip a switch and shut me out of my system because they don't like the opinions I'm pushing on the internet or simply because they had some systems failure. The future that Microsoft and other big tech companies are pushing is *not* secure for you and me, it is secure for *them* because they intend to have all of the control.
yea, i said straight to them that they are treating customers like re***s, like if you have some down syndrome and they have to control you.... gtfo, i don't needs windows help, i got win 11 and 8.1 with 7 as secondary systems, and both on 8.1 and 11 i had to disable all the abusive despotic sh*t that suspects everything of being a threat or virus...
Pirate ESU
@@WololoWololo2 Nah, I've switched primarily over to Linux at this point. Linux Mint was actually fairly easy to get into coming from Windows. The main limitations that I'm finding in this regard are that there are some games that rely on third-party software that just won't work on Linux, and Bluray playback can be pretty hit and miss since the decryption method required to play them is licensed from Sony and therefore can't be placed into video players willy nilly.
Besides, Windows 7 ESU has also been over and done with for a while now, so if security were my main concern even that wouldn't be good enough.
@@darkprinc979 its not done you can get ESU upto 2025
I wish TrigrZolt still posted
It's 2024 and I still use windows 7
“Im not encouraging usage of Windows7”
Me: *yeah I dont need encouragement I already use Windows 7 :)*
You should return back in 2024 with new contents please, are you alive or not!!!😭
hi trigrzolt. idk if you actually read these comments or not and i know you havent uploaded in a while but i hope you're doing great!
To be fair, I don't even play games that require windows 10 and above.
When new games do come out and for support of Windows 10, I just play it on my Xbox Series S. It plays 120 FPS and don't have to worry about upgrading in the future.
Now react to the one with 8.1
in 2023 after eol of windows 8.1
Agreed
Pirate ESU
Pretty embarrassing that you no longer think it's a big deal that your OS periodically reinstalls shit you don't want. lmao
Agree with the points on annoying updates and crashes. The bloatware. Other than that otherpoints is bit picky as you mentioned yourself. I like Windows 10 UI and speed. Its not perfect but its good. The question now is tho do you still use Windows 7? You havent mentioned that lol.
You still use it by... installing it. Make sure the hardware is compatible (intel integrated graphics have to be pre gen 7, newer gpus wont support it, newer cpus wont (officially) let you update, etc.) and youll be fine. I installed it on my laptop from 2018 and its perfect.
TrigrZ, which OS do you use now?
It's been almost a year... He will probably come back once he reaches 60K.
Probably
He did not 😢
Bro please upload again i watched you ages ago come back plz
Your headset are Cool!
Hi Trigrzolt, Why are you not uploading videos anymore, I am a big fan of you😢