Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K PRO Audio testing and comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Giddyup Partners! Detailed breakdown and testing of the BMPCC6K Pro's audio capabilities, I compare the 6K pro's XLR's to the previous versions of the Blackmagic Pocket camera's AND do a side by side comparison with the Canon C200 and Sound Devices MixPre 3. See just how good the 6K Pro's XLR preamps are. If you're planning to use this the Pocket 6K Pro's Audio capabilities then you don't want to miss this!
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This video is really helpful. You should do more reviews man. This is super thorough and exactly what I was looking for.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent, the one and only audio test on BMPCC6K in general
Pre-amps are great!
I watched one video from you and now I’m obsessed
Thanks Paul, more to come.
nice video men! Estuve buscando algo como este video!
I'm pleasantly surprised by how well the Blackmagic did. I'm hoping to see some more permanent third party solutions to rod mount xlr ports so that the mini xlr ports are free of any stress. That should mostly take care of this issue.
That would be excellent to see, fingers crossed.
Dude holy fuck, just watched Older......... mate well done that was a fantastic piece!!!!
you really captured our simplistic and rugged kiwi culture. super stoked for your efforts man.....keep up the dream.
P.S...... would love to collaborate....let me know.
Jono, thanks so much!! Glad you enjoyed the film, where abouts are you based?
@@thesavagefilmmaker I’m based in the coromandel but looking at transitioning to Wellington very soon. 🎬 🤘👹🤘
Find me on FB on Insta and flick me a message if you find yourself up in Auckland mate. Good luck for the move!
Nice vídeo! 🙌 I’ll definetely check this short of yours on Prime, sorry what was the name again?? 😜
Ahem...short? It's a feature my friend. 💪💪🤣
The intro was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hell yeah! Thank you!
Sweet sweet audio. Keep it up! These videos are great.
Thanks brother!
why can't i find out what bitrate the audio from the bmpcc 6k pro records at? is it 24 bit or 16? 48khz? someone please tell me for the love of god
Just found this channel, love this intro man!!
Thanks brother hope you enjoy everything else too! 🤣
awesome chanel, savage dude! please more!
Will do! Thanks Michael!
I was really surprised when comparing the sound from the saramonic lav vs the Sennheiser shotgun! I had some saramonic systems in the past and they were noisy as hell, but then that seemed it was my old GH4's fault, as now with the BMPCC6KPro even a wired generic lav sounds great. Maybe i will give saramonic another try! Thanks for sharing and Im gonna look for your movie right now! Would you allow it to be shown on a private cineclub?
I'm not familiar with private cineclubs?
lol hey guy, really fun and entertaining content.. I came for review but liked and subscribed.
Thanks my friend, appreciate the support lots of stuff like this on my channel, browse around!
Hi Sound man for 40 yrs , Thanks for your efforts , gives me some idea what to work with as this isn't the norm for most sound people . The Red cameras are the worst at making sense of settings very much the same as the 6 k - One day they'll wake up , that there are 2 things on our watch BOX ! Pix and sound . Best you take your girl for a great meal ! thanks again Eug
Thanks man will do!!
Very good review. Thanks.
I think the external sound devices sounded the best, but the camera XLR was good too.
You'd hope the sound devices would win given it's a dedicated sound recorder. All of them did pretty well.
HAHAHHA LOVE THE INTRO!
Thank you!
thanks for this video, nice to hear 6k pro's preamps are good but worried about the wonky ports that really seem low quality... i wonder how the c70's compare
Thanks! I imagine they’re at least more secure. If the preamps are anything like the c200’s , the c70 would be great, if I get one in the studio I’ll be sure to test.
YOOOO that's sick Guy!
Also it's me! Ben Gold 😛
Thanks mate!
Heaps sick. Useful as! Thanks
Another, cool and fun video. My mini XLR input are working OK, so far on my 6k pro. They are a little stiff, actually. That may depend on the brand of adapts, too. I have a Mixpre 6 version 2 and use tentacle syn e, with a Schoeps CMC641 mic. Sound on the 6k pro is usually just backup. Nice hat, by the way. You may have to buy your girl a new one if you keep using it. take care, be safe. from NYC, USA
Thank you! I found them quite stiff also. I think the Mixpre is always the best way to go, but am going to trial a few corporate shoots using the 6K pro's pre-amps based off this test. I have profusely apologised to my girlfriend for stretching her hat! Stay safe.
@@thesavagefilmmaker Good luck on the Corp job. Just remember the 6k pro does not have 32bit float, yet. Hum, that a thought! Next user demand to blackmagic. Oh, started getting that, blue screen thing, but using one of my x rite color checker tools to set white balance fixs it, at least per shoot. peace
@@newyorkartistandphilosophy8091 I hope the new update has resolved the blue screen.
Thanks so much for your work on this vid. Recently purchased the 6k Pro and was hoping to simplify the documentary shoot by using the camera mini xlr's. Cheers
Glad I could help mate, pretty great doco camera using the internal pre-amps!
@@thesavagefilmmaker I've been testing it over the weekend and I'm very happy with the results so far. Thanks again for the time you put into these vids.
Nice video! Kinda random question but it could be helpful info. Did you use Filmhub for your film's distribution? How was your experience?
I did not use Filmhub. My first film ISAZH was distributed through Shoreline, and Older and Immi The Vegan were through Indie Rights. I have heard good things from people who use Filmhub. But I can't speak from a first person perspective. If you're interested in a deep dive on distribution for indie filmmakers let me know.
I love this Intro!
Thank you! I'm a huge Sergio Leone fan.
Awesome bro!
Thanks for the amazing music Vinnie!
@@thesavagefilmmaker You're welcome bro!
In your bmd test with the sennheiser shotgun mic - did you use the phantom power?
Yes
New to cinematography and was scrolling through the menu system for audio settings. Yeah it’s pretty weird, my shotgun wasn’t registering but noticed I had the menu on the wrong setting.
It’ll be nice if there was a connecting relay that opened up the menu once plugged in. Makes no sense to scroll through a bunch of audio menus that you won’t be using anyway.
Definitely the least intuitive element of an otherwise very good menu system.
What did you film the video on
Filmed on the Canon C200.
Helpful video thank you for making and posting it. Neither of your film links work from the Uk, tubi says it's not availiable in europe and Amazon say's its showing me stuff availiable in the uk (but not your film).
Hey Sarah, no worries! Sorry my links aren't working in the UK. Older is definitely available on Amazon Prime in the UK and I was under the impression Tubi also. Perhaps you weren't logged into a prime account? Or sometimes it needs to be accessed through prime video? No idea what the issue is there. 😢😢
thank you for this video
My pleasure!
are any of your shotgun tests run with the mic mounted atop the camera? or is the fan on the 6k pro too loud to make that possible? thanks
These are all mounted overhead, but yes you can mount a Mic on top as long as it has a bit of clearance I don't find the fans to be an issue.
Thank you so much 💓
You're welcome, glad I can help.
Looks like you have found a brilliant way to attach your mixpre to the rig (on the battery plate). I can however not see what connector is holding the mixpre ?
Bit of a complex system, I used a cheeseplate, and then I would use the Mixpre 3's tripod connecting 1/8 screw and screw it into the cheeseplate.
Gotta say, you seem to have some very wobbly XLR ports. Might wanna get those fixed if they're still under warranty. Mince aren't nearly as loose.
Hmmm interesting, I thought it might just be a bit of Blackmagic bad construction. They are still working fine I will say.
Hellow sir ..at time 1:00 there is noise in the audio ..i am getting the same noise in my bmpcc6k...there is no issue with the mic,mic is giving n noise in other devicee but in the bmpcc6k it's giving so much noise .ccccccccccc short of sound ...help me if you can .
I think this is audio interference. You could try turning the gain down on the microphone input to help reduce this.
Great video. Do you mind explaining the routing of 3.5mn input on bmpcc then out to the mixpre ?
Sure Ant, I run a 3.5mm from the MixPre III's stereo out to the BMPCC 6K's 3.5mm Mic jack. Then set the Pocket audio to 3.5mm Mic left and right then it reads both channels of the Mix Pre III as left and right on the Pocket.
@@thesavagefilmmaker THANKS. I was doing that. I'm assuming I need to grab another TRS. Love your content, btw. 🤜🏾
Liked and subscribed. Is that a Ursa Mini top handle?
Thanks Michael, I think it's a C200 top handle actually!
@@thesavagefilmmaker that's great. It's quite a refreshing change to see that handle rather than the usual Smallrig and Tilta ones. I love both Smallrig and Tilta but fitting a different handle is just great, it provides that unique look!
So I recorded an mini event on the wrong audio setting and now my video is mute. Is there any way to get sound in the image?
It depends what audio setting you had it on, if both your audio tracks were assigned to a mic input without a microphone then there won't be any audio, if you were seeing audio levels as you recorded then one of your audio tracks will have something on it. You just have to find that track in your edit.
@@thesavagefilmmaker Yea it was assigned to a mic input. I totally forgot to change it back. Is there anything I can possibly do?
that was really funny actually
I heard somewhere this fella has a movie on Amazon Prime. Dunno where...
I think there might be a link to it in the description... !
May I ask what was the microphone holder you were holding like a gun in the beginning of the video?
Hey Vincent I got that approximately 15 years ago so I can't actually remember which one it is, it comes with a shotgun blimp. However nowadays looking for something like this I would purchase something like this Rode PG2-R which is basically the same: amzn.to/3lLwyiW
question, is it possible to send audio from the mixer to the bmpcc and record with the mixer? so that you can always replace the audio that is send to the bmpcc?
Yes you can, you run a 3.5mm cable from the stereo out of the mixer into the 3.5mm mic on the Pocket. You can also do it wirelessly with something like the Rode Wireless Go.
great video xDDD
But I have still some questions as it's pretty hard to choose between the 6k and 6k pro haha. I've never had a video camera, so I'm somehow afraid that it will be too heavy with the Pocket 6k Pro (1.2 kg DJI Rs 2 stabilizer, 800g Sigma 18-35 mm, 1.2 kg Pocket 6k Pro, and another battery or SSD.) Do you think that could be the case? Especially when you e.g. film the whole day or when you travel and still have a drone. I also wonder if the 6k Pro's "tilting screen" is really necessary? (I filmed with the Gopro and the cell phone on a stabilizer and never really had any problems, even when I walked very close to the floor. Maybe it's different with the camera, as many 6k users said it is necessary). Buying one later would make less sense, as it costs more and is perhaps even more uncomfortable if you use the stabilizer and fix a "DJI 3D focus system" / microphone on the "head" of the camera. I've already looked a bit on the internet and apparently the 6k Pro fits on the RS 2, but it's not yet entirely clear to me whether that's really true. I have one last question then I say more than thank you; Do you actually need nd filters a lot in filmmaking?
thxx
Great questions. So I'm not sure if the payload of the 6K Pro is too much for the RS 2, but I imagine you will be fine, it looks like it can easily handle the weight, although it may take some time to correctly balance(or you may need a counterweight). Yes the 6K Pro is heavier, but I don't think it's that much heavier that you will notice it on the Gimbal. Yes ND filters come in handy for filming all the time. Especially if you film anything during the day outside. I would say that internal ND filters are actually one of the best features of the 6K pro and one of the most handy features any camera can have. It gives you more flexibility and speed when setting up a shot and more options of choosing your depth of field rather than being limited by the light in your filming environment. I would also say the Tilt screen is also really really helpful, it means you don't need an extra monitor and you can film low or high conveniently and quickly. So absolutely I'd say those two features alone make the 6K Pro worth the extra investment. So I think you're spending money now to save a lot of time and hassle later. Well worth it!
@@thesavagefilmmaker oh okkk thxx so much for the long answer!! Not something usual ahah.I will go for the 6k pro then haha thxxx. Just asking one more question; which ens would you recommend on this camera? I t hought the sigma 18-35mm, is that good? And other like?
You made the right choice my friend. Best lens that you can film the most things with. I'd stick with that one for now.
6k pro rig
Subscribed. Dig the video, and definitely appreciate the information. But never, and I mean ever, do a John Wayne impression again. Your American Western accent needs some serious work ;)
Well I'll take that under advisement pilgrim.
Thanks for the comparisons. The 6Kpro’s preamps sounds cleaner (noise floor) to my ear/headphones than the c200’s.
Unfortunately all I can clearly hear while using the shotgun on the 6Kpro, is its fan noise/rattle. I have the unit, and am hearing the same thing. It may be going back shortly.
I can live with the slight NDs colour shifts, the bluish screen, but not that fan noise. Like you said, bad audio is not acceptable. Cheers
Yep the fan noise is a legitmate issue if you're attaching it directly to the camera. There's not any great solution. Perhaps a firmware update could minimise fan noise when you hit record.
@@thesavagefilmmaker my 6k Pro fan sounds similar to yours. It definitely gets picked up by the Sennheiser MKH416. A firmware update would be nice...
@@tijmenbrouwers a lot of power under the hood, might be the cost of this image in this body. It would be nice if it turned off when you hit record though.
Are you main character in Older? Oh and I preferred the c200.
Yes I am. C200 is great, my favorite also.
How can I work for you on your next film?
Well that depends, you'll have to start by living in New Zealand?
The Savage Filmmaker always wanted to live in New Zealand. This will be the perfect chance for me to make the move.