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- A-chan explains a bit more about how DEV_IS and ReGLOSS fit within the Hololive Production structure...
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I'm guessing their management will be much closer to real idol groups than individual vtuber activities.
So yagoo dream group?
I'm guessing they are like closer to Idolmaster rather than actual Vtubers.
The concept is interesting although I see that they are repeating the model of irys, azki and suisei in the end I see them as a generation of vtubers streamers
so what type pf comedians will they be?
Based on their outfit yes it looks like it
"No! This isn't (a family tree)"
Moments later...
"It's like a sister group"
LOL!
Lol. thats a family tree
Yagoo:A chan next group is coming. I need you
A chan:(pushes glasses) on it.
Yagoo: A-Chan, do the thing.
JP: Japan
EN: English
ID: Indonesia
For a second there I thought they were going to be from Iceland.
@@alcor4670more like from Istanbul (IS)
@@alcor4670Same, i thought it would be a Scandinavian group or something
@@TheItuber Now _that_ gave me a mental image of them doing an ABBA medley lol
They got us good with pre debut IRyS. I’ll see for myself if this is actually an idol group or we’re just getting more 6+ hour gaming streams.
imagine each one has the endurance of kaela... rip management
I would be pretty surprised if they weren't at least intending to have it be a dedicated idol group out the gate, or else there's not much point in making it a new branch. Of course, we'll see how it evolves and how well it fares once it gets going, but I imagine the intention and goal is more "true" idol group (rather than streamers who say they're idol but are actually comedians XD)
And I see it as a win!
Meanwhile Yagoo: "Sou... desune..."
@@theonlymegumeguIRyS was in a different branch too, focused on singing, she was folded into council later as the rest of the holo singers also folded into holo jp.
i think regloss have their own policy in their contract thats diff from other holo branch(jp,eng,id etc)
they prob have to do more music and less stream, or they have some sort of quota to fulfill or something like that idk just my own rambling
Soooo with DEV_IS being more focused on group activities rather than the individual themselves. . . WILL WE FINALLY GET A LEGIT 5-member BAND for HOLOLIVE?!
band of comedians
@@davids7646 Frrr
ReGLOSS the rock
so is like kpop group right?
Yagoo : we need idol group !
A-chan : but, we already have them
Yagoo : no, they all comedians ... we need actual one !!
A chan best office lady. Super cute and deserves all the vacation days
Lol, vacation days, in Japan? Okay.
She got her well earned vacation now. But man.... I miss her
Will be interesting to see what type of form/divergence their activities take compared to main branch Hololive. But I’m pretty sure we all know all branching paths will eventually lead to comedian when it comes to Holotalents lol
I'd Imagine they will stream less frequent than main Branch cuz they will focus on specific stuff like Music and dancing, apart from that they may include Shorts and Skits as well as Veriety programs that is shown on JP main channel but focus on them
i just hope they stream semi regularly, whenever cover tries doing something that puts streaming as secondary it doesn’t seem to work as well. for example the fact that IRyS herself chose to stream as much as she does even though others in her same position didn’t, seems to have greatly benefited her career and i barely ever saw anything about AZKi (at least in english)until she started becoming obsessed with Geoguesser.
tbh I want a Hololive EN branch that doesn't stream at all, just draws monthly manga. Simply with Japanese editorial from the industry.
Or maybe some streaming by the managers, creating behind-the-scenes documentary like on a zoo animal. This would replace a lot of the community responsibilities that authors have at magazines, think of it like playing out SBS as a Vtuber experience. The character designs could be mascots like Debidebi Debiru or Peroccino, and serve a function like Hyakushou Kizoku and Chikawa, combined.
The Idol-to-Comedian pipeline.
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191It falls on the same thing is what is promoted before azki hopefully works for them because if they do not have a solid fan base as content creators fail and it has been seen before
Well this is a low risk high reward venture. If it doesn't workout exactly how they want to, they will be folded into Hololive JP.
TL:DR of DEV_IS is that they're probably differentiating the labelling to try a different strategy. It's pretty much about branding and probably a more aggressive approach with higher risk of failure in what they try to do. This isn't a bad thing, but probably also an attempt to create some artificial distancing from the Hololive brand in case they fail/cause some uproar. This would be easier to sell to potential clients when selling their services.
Understandable, but its fucking terrifying that this is their exit strategy if hololive went tits up in flames
@@yoga5631 his first sentence already stated "probably". It all should be taken with a grain of salt.
I still think it aligns more with INNK. We all know INNK disbanded because the lead manager left. Maybe they were able to see potential re-branding it to something similar
@@yoga5631 They meant the other way around. If something wild happened around Dev_Is or it's just not successful that bit of extra distance could really help mitigate any damage to the main brand.
@@unequaledone ah my bad, apologies
It is not clear their role if they are only going to be vsingers streamers like irys for a reason they have their own channel or they will only participate in important cover events.
This definitely clears things up for me, unlike the normal Gens Dev_is activities will be focus on them being marketed as a group and will have activities that won't happen on the main branch.
This is cover attempting to expand their market which is definitely a wise choice.
Narrowing already strict corpo rules applied on your employees. sO wiSE aNd eXPanDiNg.
@@6DarthSion9 What the heck's your problem? Did Yagoo shit in your cornflakes?
Yes, being corpo means adhering to some strict rules. I'd say so far, those rules have worked out pretty well for both Cover and the talents.
And yes, trying out new things _is_ a good step to take. With how saturated the vtuber market is getting, just pumping out generation after generation of typical general vtubers isn't going to cut it in the long run. Just look at what's happening to Niji.
Yeah sorry but as it is this makes no sense to me. Maybe it will make more sense when they actually start doing whatever is they will do, but for now it doesn't. It seems somewhat limiting to be honest but maybe I'm wrong.
@@Zekegeddi cant imagine how they will be popular if hololive limit their streaming time and focusing only on music tbh
@@6DarthSion9 I mean, I've got enough trust in Hololive to say they know how to handle things well with their talents interests and their own growth in mind
If the talents are hired looking for a more "Classic Idol" career then i'm sure they'll be fine with said restrictions (should there be such in place)
However, you can already see they have been interacting with the Holostars members on twitter, so i believe you may be pleasantly surprised to see it is still hololive and not the worst of the Idol corporations we're dealing with here; so try to keep a positive outlook, even if you're skeptical!
A-chan...
I hope you watched the 3D live
I'm sure you'll be so proud of them
I can't believe I missed an entire new group coming out by a whole two months!
What the heck! I must have been really out of the loop for a while. I only found out about them through ehhhhh .... nevermind
anyway - glad to see them and look forward to catching up on what they've been up to!
They're probably aiming to cast this as more of a "group" rather than a "gen" is is a group in very loose terms and the latter are not really pushed to collab THAT much... Although it often happens that they form bonds inside gens in the beginning just as a side-effect of belonging in said group. Although the "group unity" has been more obvious in branches outside JP and holoX especially seem to keep close together generally, this differential branding is likely just an attempt to forge a stronger group identity that they can market into sort of an idol group rather than the typical solo ventures that music takes inside hololive.
If you're into Idolm@ster, a good analogy would be that this is like the Shiny Colors to Hololive's other franchises.
DEV_IS might be the most down-to-earth group in hololive when everyone in ReGLOSS have realistic indicated ages
Please don't tell me you think they are down to earth cuz they are normal humans lol
It honestly feels like Yagoo said: "This time we'll have real idols and a real idol group! No more comedians!"
Just wonder how long it will last.
@@muboizinabout as long as you people regurgitating the same overused jokes again and again
@@villahermosasebastian8794are you always mad at everything or you just woke up today and chose violence?
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 their outfit weirdly looks like space outfits
Lots of people are confused even after this explanation but they haven't debuted yet and we haven't been told in detail what exactly they'll be doing so just wait until then lol
Thanks for the subs!
Doesn't seem confusing to me at all. In the music industry you have solo artists like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Mandy Moore. Then you have groups like NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls.
All the current talents in Hololive are seen as single artists even though they belong in "generations." The example I gave with Britney, Christina, and Mandy would be seen as a "generation," as they all came out during the same generational era of late 90s. They have collabed with others from time to time, the same way Hololive girls collab from time to time. But at the end of the day, even though they are part of the same generation, they are still solo artists.
ReGLOSS would be the equivalent to Spice Girls.
Makes sense to me.
@@jenniferhamels1176 so musicians then, not streamers. They just happen to have avatars
Yagoo: "I will have real idols if it's the last thing I do!"
ReGLOSS: *more depraved comedians
this is tantamount to obsessing over your favorite bands sub-label and thinking it means anything other than ease of management for the parent record label.
" a family tree"
hololive production (the grandparent): oh ive got a bad back
from what I understand, ReGloss is basically Gen 1 for Hololive DEV_IS.
I personally think since they will be a group focused on idol activities, it will help lessen the workload for her sister branches when it comes to scheduling + managing choreography and recording sessions
Thereby, preventing burnouts, hiatus or breaks
oh thanks for the different view on this, i kept seeing a lot of opinions and thought to myself "this is just hololive with different branch name"
Oh device! So they're gonna be the device for resurrecting YAGOO's idol dream? xD
I love that A-chan says "nahone" ^_^
this was really helpful!! thank you A-chan for explaining it (especially with the graph) and thank you Yura for translating this for us!!!
super helpful!!!
So ReGLOSS is under DEV_IS. Can't wait for their sister unit to make debut as ReTURN, ReMAKE, ReMASTER, ReSTART, ReQUEST, ReUNION, and so on.
i wonder if since it isn’t part of JP EN or ID, if in the future we might get groups devised of members from different regions? like three JP one EN and one ID or something. guess we’ll just have to wait and see!
That why i feel there is non jp on ReGloss (impostor like anya in ID)
Could maybe we even have those not from current Hololive regions such as Korea, Philippines, etc.
Just because they can sing and talk in Japanese - until they debut we can’t be too sure if they really will end up being a Japanese citizen.
Thank you so much for the clipping!
Different strategy? Hmm, maybe less gaming/zatsudan and more focus on media appearances, variety shows, professional voice acting, and expansion of Holo no Graffiti (beyond short skits)?
I think that's an area Cover might want to tap into.
But most importantly I hope everyone has fun.
I wonder what's the main difference between DEV_IS and the old INNK, the current info is that they are similar to V-Singer, which is probably similar to how INNK work, i.e. they really focused on music. I dunno how successful is INNK, but IMO both Azki and Suisei have a better growth as the main group, as they have regular stream (games, zatsu, singing, and collab) gives them more chance to show their personalities.
Edit: see reply for correction.
Original incorrect comment:
It's no longer a joint vecture with another company like INNK was between cover and upd8
@@SkyArrow1712It was never a joint venture between upd8 and Cover.
It was always a Cover only owned project that started and ended that way.
YT won't let me put them here but you can easily find links to japanese articles of INNK's creation explaining that.
People in the west get confused because AZKi was affiliated to upd8 before joining INNK.
@@jolynefanacount4326 Yes, you're right - my bad.
well one thing we know
hololive/cover always learn from their failure in the past especially when they still young company
for example, before there was Mel's stalker and that was her own manager => learn from that now manager is female and always get shuffled with time period
i bet cover/hololive already learn about their failure from INNK so they brave enough to stabilize new group
maybe YAGOO still believe about his "IDOL GROUP" dream
@end3790 that stuff is out of Covers control plus they did learn by releasing a Video along with Thier announcement to avoid Bot detection by TH-cam, Cover still has lots to learn and them venturing to new grounds is always a plus.
What worries me is the amount of money spent on these projects, If these don't give them profit they will end up being in the hands of the Investors which will end up putting them and the talents in real problem which can lead to Thier downfall
Expectations: Actual Idols.
Reality: Just more comedians, but now they make comedy together more often.
A-Chan: I thought it would be easier for people to understand if I used this diagram
She did just hit us with "Look at this ...Graph."
Wake up babe, new Hololive genus just dropped.
and she put ReGLOSS in the Bottom Left as suggession to how the group will be
So ReGLOSS is bottom left, gotcha.
So my understanding is, the Holo groups (HoloJP, HoloEN and HoloID) are more for general streaming and occasional music talents, whilst Dev_Is is akin to AKB48, in that their activities will involve more group activities instead of them doing stuff on their own. Like FuwaMoco, but bigger in numbers.
Thanks, I needed this explaination
Huh,
Well, let's see our amazing expectations for this new unit of Hololive.
They would look like an idol group in a vtuber setting rather than being a comedian group :D
I think this is what sora chan wanted to be.
Now im kinda wondering in the near future, will they recruit members adept in competitive gaming solely as a new Holizontal branch.
for that, we have VSPo. Would be so nice to have a dedicated gaming branch that would join tournaments because HoloGamers is not what the name seems to imply.
Would be really neat if they rolled out a minor league Valorant or LOL e-sports team. NA has openings for both...
As of right now they have said Holizontal will not be getting new people/gens and just be using people from Holopro when they do sponsored stuff.
@@ruweee4443 VSPO isn't quite it. I'm thinking more like actual esports where they employ rl players that are OK showing their faces in LAN events but stream with avatars and such. Like most of the CR guys.
@@JimmyBoombox yup. Totally on with that, but if Dev_is is an avenue to challenge new things and try novel stuff. What's to say that isn't a far fetch idea stemming from Holizontal
a family tree where A chan is the grandma at the top of the tree, naruhodo nee~~~
More like, Yagoo gives up of his dream with current members and try to make a new sister group to live up his dream again. Will this become another broken dream? We just need to see later 😂😂😂
Back here again before Flow Glow debut.
Maybe they will also be a bit more isolated from the rest and focus more on music production and live stuff. Reason being, that with en, jp and id basically collabing and interacting all over the place it's gotten terribly difficult to plan and manage. But it's that brand of fun and shenanigans that we love, so we'll see what happens and how it works out
As I see it they are probably gonna do a lot of things together (like stream, make music, etc), and they're individual channels are for the rare individual stream as well as updates personally and maybe clips.
Possibly similar to INNK, Project Hope, or Blue Journey, their music projects have all already been planned and paid for months or years in advance but in exchange they have no creative control over it unlike the regular girls who have to wait for a budget to be allocated to them, but they have control and can then top it off with their own money for extra bells and whistles depending on what they want.
I will read it as "Dev is" and you can't change that A-chan 🙂
So it is basically Meteopolis by Riot Music - the Regloss talents are the band members like Suzuhara/Vesperbell etc
I'm led to believe that calling their new branch "device" means they're an experimental technology group.
Tech-wear designs, and their Shunkan Heartbeat MV even has a "hello world" in what is either C++ or C#.
Hopefully, they get to really explore the use of that whole VR studio, and open up avenues for further investment in the technology.
They tell you that it's a different branch, that their strategy is different but they don't explain exactly what makes them different... I guess they'll tell you in the debut.
First group challenge: dealing with YT sub purges.
Yagoo is the dreamer, they are the dream.
Yagoo's final attempt at reviving the Idol dream.
It does remain to be seen how different the handling for DEV_IS will be, and whether said difference will be seen on our end. For example, IIRC the main difference between IRyS as a VSinger and everyone else in Hololive is how her music production is handled, otherwise her upfront streaming activities are no different from the others. Given that their profiles still list their individual skills like Ao being a manga artist or Raden's interest in Rakugo, I believe they'll still have their own individual streams and such, but their official appearances will have more planning and a more coherent direction. I imagine that talents under DEV_IS will have a much more coherent marketing strategy as a group, as seen by their coordinated appearances that we haven't seen in any other previous group before: while gens like Council, HoloX, and Advent have a central theme to them they're all still individually different from each other in terms of appearance, whereas ReGLOSS pretty much have a coordinated outfit appearance with red and white colors, star motifs, and the ReGLOSS branding explicitly plastered on them.
I hope DEV_IS can be a mix that emphasis to be a group activity
like, they debut as "idol group" which combine all region branch (mix jp, id, en), not doing game or talk stream but a lot of singing and concert as real idol group
so like a lovelive unit? Muse, Aqours, and so on do their activities as a group so I am assuming its more akin to that.
I'm seeing this more in the vein of BanG Dream at this point, but yeah probably something like that.
Even with the diagram they're still dancing around just telling us what the group is really about. People are speculating what they're really about but I personally just want to know the details so that I'll know if it's something I'd be interested in or not. Things are already harder for me personally not being a JP speaker but despite that I have found many JP talents that I enjoy watching so I'm always open to adding another one but I do need to know a bit more before I jump in.
"Holodevice" sounds like a Digimon type of shenanigans.
I heard JKT 48 also has Vtuber now its Indonesia Branch of AKB 48
The final attempt to revive Yagoo's dream.
"Okay, it's like this: Hololive is composed of Hololive. Which is composed of Hololive. Which includes Hololive. Which..."
Ok, so that's why they've felt different in design. That said, not sure I'm seeing the distinction much at this point in time?
even if project failed they can just transfer them to hololive just like azki and suisei.... because hololive became big they want to show us something diffrent than what they been show us till now.
It's probably actual idol stuff focused around 3D live dancing and singing more idol over whatever they are doing with the other girls
Yeah regloss might be aiming for idol/artist approach, seeing some of hololive members get major debut with label companies cover might consider opening a branch that's more focused on music label again hence the name regloss
Hololive Dev_is type content probably more like related to V idol group like VALIS,hypnosis microphone, or UmaMusume one.
I'm still confused but I'm sure seeing what they get up to will make everything clearer
Yagoo still haven't given up on his dream .. to have a true idol group.. good luck .
With the varying backgrounds of the talents, I'm assuming it's like a small production house/studio creating varied multimedia contents? If so, that's fascinating from a business perspective.
So far it is looking more like a rehab group than idols, but I like them like that.
hmmm... the only thing close in my mind is "probably a branch that would kinda like VirtualReal Star"
I was also told that Uproar is a bit different than Holostars and not just a new gen...still waiting to see how exactly, lol.
"Fine if we can't make idols out of comedians we will make an idol only branch" - YAGOO probably
A chan ask yagoo
Yagoo : im still not lose DREAM
Interesting! So based on the success of ReGLOSS there could be another group that debuts under DEVIS in a few years.
Yagoo's last hope of saving his dream. Let's see how this one goes.
Maybe like this: in Hololive other branch, they are their own brand. They do their own project, they have more ability to choose things, theyre paid individually, etc. They are like soloist who came together to make a group. But in DEV-IS, the opposite, just like idol group/girlband first then after that each have their own solo debut. Maybe they have something like 7 years contract where they divided all income and expenses equally, more DANCE and vocal train, live together in one place, going to event/program as one, etc.
It is practically the same as with the other generations, I do not see much difference
@@johnandrew4856 do you know that the talent themself that bear all the cost (or at least partially) for their equipment, original song, cover, merch etc? And because of that, they too got more portion of the profit. And I imagine that DEV_IS group(s?) activities (song, concert, living, etc) will be covered by DEV_IS (the company), and then the profit will be divided equally to the members AFTER the company recoup their investment (like their living rent, diet, vocal, dance training etc)
@@johnandrew4856 I think it's more like a girl group. Their member can still release solo projects but they mainly will be focus on group. So the albums also will with ReGLOSS rather than individual albums. Hololive main branches is kinda opposite, where they debut with gen but in the end individually the members will be doing their own projects and also if they want to launch album, it their individual albums ( I think there's only original song for gen but there's never an album with a gen or unit right?)
@@johnandrew4856 Well cant you just think of it like K-pop then Twice, Blackpink
@@tukangstreaming2640merch most of it are provided by cover, member can take burden to pay it but its not requirement, btw merch funding are most of the time to do tax writeoff. Original song cover also provided it.
didnt know there was a new generation
thats quick after advent
This is like the always sunny meme
If Dev_Is is more dedicated to music, then that means maybe my dream of a generation dedicated to metal is within reach. HoloMetal! And we can still get a 7th gen.
So basically it's an idol group
I like how Hiodoshi Aoi acted like a bot on Twitter greeting her senpai from boys and girls alike..She asserted height dominance on Astel LoL.. Talking about having huge guts on that cursed seaweed especially on the taboo thing (height).
Look at how big hololive already.. Rlly make me proud as viewer lol
I heard teamwork and my morning brain went for "vtuber esports team".
Seeing people still confuse about "what's the differences, is it necessary to separate?" even after watching this video, then I think you can simply just wait for their debut and actual activities first before being judging to it, aside to it you can just watch them like any of the holomems normally without caring about the whole branch thing if you keep pressing on it doesn't make anything new. On a business look, it is a separate project need with different managing, resources, thing that you probably don't care as viewers 👍
So they're like the RND / Prototype branch..? Maybe they'll be the REAL idol group this time around.
focusing more on idol shows content more than usual live streaming like other is my guess
Maybe it's like fuwamoco where activities are done in tandem, but for them they do them as a group. Also they'll probably use 3D more since their tech is getting better
No member since AZKi has debuted with a 3D model, and all of the girls already have known Live2D riggers in their profiles.
Thank you A-chan, I now know less than nothing.
inb4 it is revealed that one of the DEV_IS past life is neuro-sama
Hololive making an Idol Group?
Where have I heard that before....
(for real though, I'm looking forward to seeing Yagoo's Dream come true)
They are probably under separate management who run independently without being controlled by Hololive that much.
They use Hololive name as the brand image, but the management is completely separated.
I won't that surprised if Dev_is it self is actually an external IP who is being managed under Hololive brand.
So its basically a Idol Group that is debuting right in to a Idol Group than like Gen 0 and IRyS was.
DEV as a programmer the first thing that came to my mind is C++ or that they were the developers or creators.
A-chan found my chat on that stream. I typed it.
So dev is is gonna be a actaul idol group on Korea? Amazing. Holo KO 1 leak
Yagoo is fed up with the other girls ruining his dreams so he made a different branch in order to save his remaining dreams
So in other word in a far far future, they might be another unit emerge under that Dev_Is brand. if I interpret it in my high-medium quality brain
Device Dev is De wi ,eh ok a chan ww
And here I thought that uproar is a different group separated from Holostars
They are a different group from Holostars Gen 1-3 but are still under Holostars (Kinda like Hololive Gamers, I guess)
@@Nachtflut ooh I see. Thx for the info.
So it's pronounced Device, huh. DEV_IS... Device... Revice! I figured it out holy shi-
We already telling this to people the moment they appeared on a countdown, they just insist they are gen 7. 😅